Why Naruto VS Luffy VS Ichigo Isn’t Close

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@quadq3285
@quadq3285 Жыл бұрын
Why ichigo there bruh that's cheating
@Tylearned
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
I’m dying LMFAO
@quadq3285
@quadq3285 Жыл бұрын
​@@Tylearned is that a pin of shame or pin of funny
@Tylearned
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
@@quadq3285 nah bro you made me laugh😭 this a pin of funny
@quadq3285
@quadq3285 Жыл бұрын
@@Tylearned thanks bro you a real g
@clipz6868
@clipz6868 Жыл бұрын
Unironically, Ichigo stands no chance against Naruto… after all, this is _Nonviable Scaling_ with the intent to scale these characters relatively. The fact that he skipped the whole Momoshiki scaling, even though, that’s where Naruto gets these huge viable calcs, is beyond crazy to me, though this might have been on purpose.
@lilzothemajestic2214
@lilzothemajestic2214 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this really isn't close, of course Ichigo would win. The stuff that Ichigo does in Bleach is absolutely crazy. But, If they were to meet, they probably just tell each other about their adventures.
@bonkpolice7602
@bonkpolice7602 Жыл бұрын
"Then my mom and dad jumped in to save me" "Damn, my mom died saving me too" "Y'all know who your mom's were?"
@lilzothemajestic2214
@lilzothemajestic2214 Жыл бұрын
@@bonkpolice7602 Lmao
@niggardosenpai
@niggardosenpai Жыл бұрын
​@@bonkpolice7602 accurate
@insanity1
@insanity1 Жыл бұрын
​@@bonkpolice7602yooo you got it with this comment.
@zes7215
@zes7215 Жыл бұрын
wrrr
@guardrailavender
@guardrailavender Жыл бұрын
Reminder that Ichigo wasn’t even fighting with a real sword for most of the show, bro was actually just running through the entire power hierarchy of the show with a kendo stick while everyone else has katanas, and then when finally he gets his katana he literally swings it at the final boss of the series with the sheathe still on it like he’s never seen a sword before in his life, and he still cuts him in half. He’s a freak of nature.
@Noname-rm8rf
@Noname-rm8rf Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@lavellelee5734
@lavellelee5734 Жыл бұрын
Facts 😂
@MuddyAxolotl
@MuddyAxolotl Жыл бұрын
wait what
@guardrailavender
@guardrailavender Жыл бұрын
@@MuddyAxolotl If you need me to elaborate on some parts, feel free to ask. The dude’s insane.
@MuddyAxolotl
@MuddyAxolotl Жыл бұрын
@@guardrailavender When did they reveal that since i dont want spoilers
@bandmansir
@bandmansir Жыл бұрын
I like how as heavily argued naruto vs luffy has been lately, pretty much every one agrees that ichigo is just too strong to even be consistently in the conversation 💀
@bingobango8168
@bingobango8168 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks naruto vs luffy is debatable hasn't read both Manga.
@sausage5033
@sausage5033 Жыл бұрын
@@bingobango8168 It’s definitely debatable that’s why people debate it genius
@bingobango8168
@bingobango8168 Жыл бұрын
@sausage5033 debatable if you haven't read both Manga maybe. Naruto is in another league than luffy.
@bertenheimer
@bertenheimer Жыл бұрын
@@bingobango8168 naruto literally doesn’t get stronger than baryon mode in the manga. Baryon was Naruto’s peak, and Luffy’s sun god abilities + speed combined with observation haki definitely take naruto.
@bingobango8168
@bingobango8168 Жыл бұрын
@bertiechaos3349 lol 😆. If you've read both Manga it's apparent naruto no diffs luffy.
@Zong_Cheng
@Zong_Cheng Жыл бұрын
Gotta love that Ty ignored a bunch of scaling in Bleach, skipped straight to top and god tiers to apply the Senna calc and still concluded that Ichigo clowns with pure stats.
@Tylearned
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
I hate watching a “who wins” video and then I see “okay guys so Ichigo in soul society was mountain level” like mf get to the point
@fergusonhoweroll4424
@fergusonhoweroll4424 Жыл бұрын
@@Tylearned You can scale him higher than solar and he's easily MFTL at least
@poachedegg3376
@poachedegg3376 Жыл бұрын
​@@fergusonhoweroll4424 same with naruto tbh with momos feats, but ig ichigo still beats him,luffy however doesnt look so good with his feats
@shisei_EternalAtake
@shisei_EternalAtake Жыл бұрын
​@@Tylearned i mean there wasa time Naruto's trump card was a big frog
@Inedow_The_Source_of_Racism
@Inedow_The_Source_of_Racism Жыл бұрын
​@@shisei_EternalAtakea really really big frog tho
@speedbeyondlogic
@speedbeyondlogic Жыл бұрын
Ichigo can also coat his sword in a getsuga. There's also blut vene. There's his gran rey cero too. And his double getsuga attack.
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo just all rounder man Shinigami- speed and offence Hollow- good regeneration+ offence Quincy - offence and excellent defence
@draskopopovic9543
@draskopopovic9543 Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 and with fullbring he can increase his speed and power even more
@Leon-dl7hf
@Leon-dl7hf Жыл бұрын
What the fuck are those words my man
@bruhok1285
@bruhok1285 Жыл бұрын
Didnt yhwach take his quincy powers tho? I dont remember
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
@@bruhok1285 he took quincy and hollow powers but after defeating him it returned to ichigo
@black_mass5177
@black_mass5177 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Shunsui even gave Ichigo's squad a warning that he may not be able to come back from train with squad 0 as just his spiritual pressure would be enough to destroy the earth.... So just being alive is enough to end the world 🌎.
@raptor8189
@raptor8189 Жыл бұрын
Not the earth. The world of the living (i.e the material universe)
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
Actually there was another reason that ichigo might have been turned into next sk so yeah it was kinda dark
@juhabach7922
@juhabach7922 Жыл бұрын
​@@mufeezsyed2664yhwach is the soul king now as ichibei made him the linchpin of all reality and even his corspe is still holding the universe together
@x_pkay
@x_pkay Жыл бұрын
Thats not really true. They were planning on making him a butchered soul king
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
@@x_pkay it's kinda both ichigo was brimming with uncontrolled sp and he was learning how to control it and later yhwach even said it too and other is the possibility of him replacing sk
@mugenshiratori6825
@mugenshiratori6825 Жыл бұрын
Another thing is that in Horn of Salvation, Ichigo is capable of using all of the 4 races (Quincy, Hollow, Fullbring, Soul Reaper) abilities simultaneously. Meaning he can defend with Quincy (Blut Vene) Attack with Shinigami powers, or use Hollow...hierro as defense and attack with Blut Arterie. Not to mention advanced observation powers like Pesquisa and High Regen due to being a hollow!
@redsomething6514
@redsomething6514 Жыл бұрын
yeah and since he using their peaks ichigo still got quincy powers
@rameshv445
@rameshv445 Жыл бұрын
When did this happen ?
@rameshv445
@rameshv445 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I saw the whole of first season and didn't come across any of the things u said so Pls educate me
@TheDarksai
@TheDarksai Жыл бұрын
​@@rameshv445prob cause it's not in the first season, is major spoilers for you, and why are you even watching this vid?
@FireBlaze-kk1ls
@FireBlaze-kk1ls Жыл бұрын
@@rameshv445man came here on an endgame powerscaling video without even skimming through the rest of the series serious why tf you here get out and educate yourself by watching the rest of the series
@EckserDR
@EckserDR Жыл бұрын
Love how ichigo point is his crushing power and potential And he is Very good at it
@sausage5033
@sausage5033 Жыл бұрын
I don’t, it’s not really interesting when a character is just naturally monstrously strong for no reason, compared to having a backstory like Luffy and Naruto where they trained and got stronger over time
@yashvardhansahu7000
@yashvardhansahu7000 Жыл бұрын
@@sausage5033 nigga....dhats becauz he is an experiment by the villan of that anime
@EckserDR
@EckserDR Жыл бұрын
@@sausage5033 Bruh you didnt really read bleach then Theres a whole lore about his powers and he does train for it
@dirtysipper
@dirtysipper Жыл бұрын
no bro jus has insane plot armour ☠
@dirtysipper
@dirtysipper Жыл бұрын
@corybrooks9557 BRAINDEAD LMFAOOAOA
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
Kind of a shame that Luffy isn’t up there in AP compared to the other two, but at least he has really good speed scaling, especially since the “gear 4 being three times faster than gear 2” is a lowball that still gets him to those mftl speeds.
@ayoubali8332
@ayoubali8332 Жыл бұрын
I don't think people will like if luffy become planetery or star in the end of the manga like it will be a little weird
@Sa.D.B0
@Sa.D.B0 Жыл бұрын
@Ayoub Ali the thing about one piece is that it is a story focused far more on the plot than pwerscaling, ik it sounds weird like aren't stories supposed to be that, but their is a reason I would pick one piece over rimuru and thr anime anos is from they are stronger than him but one piece is about the story its one of the greatest stories of all time while these do not compare to it not even in the slightest
@tragiic333
@tragiic333 Жыл бұрын
Luffy stomps naruto with gear 5. Idk where y’all are getting these planetary and solar system feats from when it comes to naruto. Y’all either watched a different anime or went of the mis translations in the data books.
@rexr9781
@rexr9781 Жыл бұрын
​@@tragiic333 kishimotos statement that momoshiki can easily destroy the sun in Naruto and Naruto dog walks him by himself so he goes to high star to solar system,ichigo can go uni+ - multiversal based on gremmys creation of several galaxies in his fight with kenpachi and ichigo just upscales from there.
@LeonPlayzzz
@LeonPlayzzz Жыл бұрын
@@rexr9781 The statement you're referring to says nothing about destroying a star, it says he will eat up all the stars chakra, which does not equate to or translate to star level in attack potency.
@josephlankford5541
@josephlankford5541 Жыл бұрын
Here's a small bit of info that also shows why Ichigo is the strongest of the three. Take a look at their timelines and training arcs. Naruto, went for years in canon and still got power-ups from a godly being. Luffy, trained for 2 years to master haki and is only recently learning what his DF can really do. Ichigo, was only an active Shinigami for a little over ONE YEAR. Ichigo's growth is absolutely insane and if he trained for the same amount of time as the other, then there's no fight.
@jamers8965
@jamers8965 Жыл бұрын
And there's still people out there thinking muzan solo ichigo 💀💀💀💀
@Charlie-49
@Charlie-49 Жыл бұрын
@@jamers8965 What Muzan 🤣🤣 bro you really got me 🤣🤣
@rapden18
@rapden18 Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly y i think Ichigo when hes a father is the strongest mf ever in bleach
@SirNoticules
@SirNoticules Жыл бұрын
Ihcigo technically did train in the Dangai about 3 months Dangai (roughly an hour real time) and even though his powers were taken away/reversed he did get experience from it (just not sure if you counted that or not)
@josephlankford5541
@josephlankford5541 Жыл бұрын
@@SirNoticules Don't worry, I did.
@JustEpik
@JustEpik Жыл бұрын
Ichigo solos both their verses with one arm behind his back and both eyes closed 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@manty59
@manty59 10 ай бұрын
bro solos them in shikai base
@JustEpik
@JustEpik 10 ай бұрын
@@MorganReedNance did you even watch the Video 😭
@manty59
@manty59 10 ай бұрын
@@MorganReedNance bro is Naruto 10x faster than speed of light? No he’s not sure he’s strong but ichigo attacks can break space and time and Naruto does not have infinite chakra he doesn’t even have the most chakra in his own verse Ichigo can’t die to Naruto bc he can vasto lorde and then a gran ray cero which is faster than light can one shot him
@Kiyotaka302
@Kiyotaka302 7 ай бұрын
Lol wait did u first watch Naruto u dumb @ss Naruto have the more chakra then any other character in Naruto verse lol when he uses kcm there it's self he reach god level like he can use sage of 6 path powers and u bleach kids even know about truth seeking orb? Lol it movies faster then light that ichigo can't even see them, I saw bleach 1 year back and u know wat it as the worst story in top anime some people say Naruto have so many fillers but damn bleach main stories are inserted between fillers 😂 ok leave that, so ya I'm not saying ichigo is waste I'm trying to say that Naruto is aren't that Power less like this mid piece kids telling Naruto is weak lol they are growing kids so leave them.​@@manty59
@ford3n
@ford3n 4 ай бұрын
@@manty59 he is mftl+ bro what tf are you talking about lil bro lmao
@shirothr5384
@shirothr5384 Жыл бұрын
The thing is that you can say that Ichigo is being Lowballed here. If we use Ywhachs statement of Shikai Ichigo is = to Mugetsu Ichigo. Then that implies that Mugetsu Ichigo. Who is at worst ten times stronger then Dangai Ichigo. Which is stronger then Butterfly Aizen. Butterfly Aizen is vastly stronger then Yama in Bankai by an unknown amount. You can make the argument that Ichigo can go above Solar system+ levels when he's hitting both Bankai and HOS. Which the HOS amps him roughly by how much Vasto Lorde amped him. Which is at the lowest you could say is 100x(Likely higher due to Res Ulqi FODDERIZING Hollow Mask Ichigo). Ichigo is HIM.
@manlikendu
@manlikendu Жыл бұрын
Ichigo isn't him tbh I've seen better feats than that not hating or anything Bleach is my Top 4 fs but characters in like DAL or RoR or DB have much better feats But against characters like them in the video ichigo's spiritual pressure fodderizes them cuz too much reiatsu ☠️
@mm-sy8vv
@mm-sy8vv Жыл бұрын
He aint beating goku
@manlikendu
@manlikendu Жыл бұрын
@@mm-sy8vv frfr
@livemajimareaction9418
@livemajimareaction9418 Жыл бұрын
​@@manlikendu oh yeah and th characters in the scp make db characters look like complete fodder so i guess Goku isn't him! Like what is this logic
@punani_slayer4209
@punani_slayer4209 Жыл бұрын
Solar system level....you powerscalers really love to pull shit out of your ass. We haven't even seen a single bleach character manage to destroy the earth yet let alone a solar system
@manigaultdeante
@manigaultdeante Жыл бұрын
Makes sense that ichigo is over naruto and naruto is over luffy this is a good video.
@cowmanmilk8761
@cowmanmilk8761 Жыл бұрын
W opinion
@RandomAJ16
@RandomAJ16 Жыл бұрын
Naruto won't easily beat him tho. luffy has g5, because remember, his bajarang gun attack is the size of an entire island + infusedd with color of supreme king, he literally launched kaido to the bottom of the earth with the attack. And also,gear 5 allows him to change his surroundings to rubber, so what's stopping luffy from turning Naruto''s attacks into rubber, even if they did hit him, he can't tank em by turning his body into rubber
@cowmanmilk8761
@cowmanmilk8761 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomAJ16 Right now I think naruto wins with not too much trouble maybe mid diff but by the end of op it will be extreme diff or luffy wins
@manigaultdeante
@manigaultdeante Жыл бұрын
@@cowmanmilk8761 besides what happens if naruto uses multi shadow clone jutsu and luffy is fighting thousands of narutos who are nearly as strong as him because naruto can do that double rinnegan madara was strong enough to block sage of six paths naruto's attacks and the limbo are equal to madara power and naruto made clones strong enough to fight limbo who are equal to madara himself and naruto can destroy luffy on a cellular level with his rasenshuriken.
@Mr.Magic-frog
@Mr.Magic-frog Жыл бұрын
@@RandomAJ16 Teen Naruto so6p would beat Luffy with no negs diff
@arararagi597
@arararagi597 Жыл бұрын
I've always hated comparing characters' power from different animes because every anime is power scaled differently to match the plot. Like it doesnt make sense for pirates on earth in one piece to be able to easily destroy planets like in dragon ball. Like sure its fun talking about it, but what's the point of people getting toxic over it.
@tbone007
@tbone007 Жыл бұрын
I know right this guy is a complete idiot if he thinks that Luffy is planetary. He doesn't have a power that can destroy planets compared to something like Blackbeard who has white beards quake quake fruit.
@zeromagnum2811
@zeromagnum2811 Жыл бұрын
People will argue their bias and head cannon to eternity because in many minds their opinion = universal fact. But i agree with you, I hate opinion debates as there is nothing but blatant bias mostly involved except in certain cases like this video that was fairly articulated in comparing the three.
@HatoV1
@HatoV1 Жыл бұрын
The fact that people don't think ichigo is worrying 💀
@acanthita2978
@acanthita2978 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo is worrying?
@HatoV1
@HatoV1 Жыл бұрын
@@acanthita2978 sorry I ment winning my English isn't too good
@no1factsspeaker321
@no1factsspeaker321 8 ай бұрын
it's not people like to hop on the bandwagon on bleach being stronger which is absolutely not true
@HatoV1
@HatoV1 8 ай бұрын
@@no1factsspeaker321 ichigo is low multiversal and Naruto is about moon level💀💀
@no1factsspeaker321
@no1factsspeaker321 8 ай бұрын
@@HatoV1 Yt deleted my msg but valadez.lavi, come VC me ichigo is capping at multi planet and Naruto is way above that, this sorry outdated scaling is actually concerning for the CV comm
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
I generally don’t like to go for verse equalization anymore, since even if abilities can be classified as “spiritual” or the like there can be significant differences in how those systems work (ie. Chakra having a strict network that’s tied to the character’s biology, vs Haki not having any ties to the characters biology), or even within one story there can be multiple power systems at play (ie, mana and ki in Black Clover, or Spiritual Vs Demon vs Sacred energy in Yu Yu Hakusho).
@gbemade
@gbemade Жыл бұрын
Tbh its not as complicated as it seems ur deepin it
@JG-gd2fu
@JG-gd2fu Жыл бұрын
I mean it kinda is luffy doesn't have Chakra
@gbemade
@gbemade Жыл бұрын
@@JG-gd2fu when u get into the specifics u make it hella complicated thats why verse equalization is a thing. Pretend these abilities jus counteract each other its not deep
@tragiic333
@tragiic333 Жыл бұрын
What is the point of comparing when you gonna say verse equalization. That’s corny as hell.
@JG-gd2fu
@JG-gd2fu Жыл бұрын
@gloryboy it is tho lmao giving luffy chakra makes him vulnerable to things he wouldn't be other wise.
@sirtidepod954
@sirtidepod954 Жыл бұрын
I love how unbiased this is. I have only watched Naruto, but I am happy to accept the fact that ichigo slaps. I just hate it when people say things like “Luffy destroys Naruto’s verse” and stuff like that because you just tell that it is biased.
@mikeoxlong3604
@mikeoxlong3604 Жыл бұрын
luffy will eventually be able to solo naruto verse jussayin
@cursebird3469
@cursebird3469 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeoxlong3604 cringe
@cursebird3469
@cursebird3469 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeoxlong3604 saitama solos the verse
@chadthindercok6560
@chadthindercok6560 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeoxlong3604 unlikely chances are Naruto will go on to be the next so6p and Boruto will inevitably be able to solo op verse
@Yopiwastaken
@Yopiwastaken Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeoxlong3604 ❌
@kami_overlord
@kami_overlord Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this. I mean, I'm a die hard Naruto fan but it's cool to see Ichigo finally getting the respect he deserves. I totally agree that he would straight up blitz them both
@Rydus
@Rydus Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video so much, like clearly your more of a one piece fan, but you're realistic on the outcome. This is something you don't see from Naruto fan who are utter convinced his universal even though this has been debunk by so many youtubers.
@jaredhollenbach237
@jaredhollenbach237 Жыл бұрын
My guy I don't even know qho your watching but someone who still thinks and scales Naruto to uni is definitely baiting.
@FlavoredFrenchToast
@FlavoredFrenchToast Жыл бұрын
The thing is, the Bleach cosmology can be scaled to 6D very easily via the gargantua. Ywach was destroying all of the cosmology at once and Ichigo killed him twice, in bleach you have to be at least relative to a character to even hurt them. So Ichigo can be scaled to at least low multi
@divinesuster
@divinesuster Жыл бұрын
W scaling
@JamariusPharrel
@JamariusPharrel Жыл бұрын
full power aizen was 4d and dangai was said to be another dimension higher than him so danger ichigo is 5d
@divinesuster
@divinesuster Жыл бұрын
@@JamariusPharrel and Mugetsu transcends that so 6D
@islamardjoune1042
@islamardjoune1042 Жыл бұрын
@@JamariusPharrel yes and max what he could destroy is small mountain yes he is multi lol
@noviance
@noviance Жыл бұрын
People that bring up that Yhwach feat simply don’t know what they’re talking about tbh
@abubakarjalloh8665
@abubakarjalloh8665 Жыл бұрын
This is probably the most truthful scaling I’ve seen
@Badmann011
@Badmann011 Жыл бұрын
Naruto max planetary, luffy max lil island and its most truthful scaling?Hes like "momoshiki star lvl(nope, not that momoshiki who was beaten by naruto) so naruto who beat him, star lvl too(nope)".Also "whitebeard is planetary(nope), but the planet in op is like lil star(nope), and luffy who became yonko is planetary too(nope)".
@theonewhoasked1418
@theonewhoasked1418 Жыл бұрын
​@@Badmann011 ayo guys I spotted the One piece fan boy
@Badmann011
@Badmann011 Жыл бұрын
@@theonewhoasked1418 how do you know?but you right, i like op more than other mangas
@abubakarjalloh8665
@abubakarjalloh8665 Жыл бұрын
@@Badmann011 clearly you weren’t watching the video he said they were all at least planetary and it’s not to say Luffy is weak because him and Naruto are very close but Naruto honestly beats luffy in a lot of importance categories Ex: stamina and speed
@Badmann011
@Badmann011 Жыл бұрын
@@abubakarjalloh8665 Ik that luffy weaker than naruto.Luffy is the lil island lvl, and not close to lightspeed, how he can be stronger than naruto, who is planetary, and close so lightspeed?
@dproh_
@dproh_ Жыл бұрын
Many people don't understand how fast characters in Bleach are actually moving
@5aiv.
@5aiv. Жыл бұрын
it's honestly crazy since bleach in the animated TYBW cour 2 finale was upscaled, since apparently now Squad Zero are around 2-C which is low multiverse level due to a new line being added.
@elid2532
@elid2532 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, im happy people are finally giving ichigo his flowers. The amount of time people downplayed ichi in the past is crazy.
@Johnny24-dl3ig
@Johnny24-dl3ig 10 ай бұрын
Bs. This guy is overrated asf. Planetary lvl chump fr
@furryfloofer8742
@furryfloofer8742 6 ай бұрын
@@Johnny24-dl3ig No, Ichigo is low complex multiversal, 6D, the others are not even touching that tier.
@guardrailavender
@guardrailavender Жыл бұрын
Reminder as well that neither luffy nor Naruto have the antibodies necessary to combat hollow reiatsu, meaning all of ichigo’s hollow abilities are literally toxic to them.
@freddypedraza2066
@freddypedraza2066 Жыл бұрын
If Ichigo were to train like a saiyan he'll grow to unprecedented levels
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
He's like gohan just chill with his life untill enemy strikes
@Aevum13th
@Aevum13th Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 To be fair, compared to some of the characters in other series, Ichigo's often feel very lethal and dangerous.
@marrymejisoo3413
@marrymejisoo3413 Жыл бұрын
​@@mufeezsyed2664 Ichigo's treatment is what Gohan deserves tbh
@ecomog4735
@ecomog4735 Жыл бұрын
ichigo could hang with some dragon ball people and could def get on that level with years of training esp since he just always gets stronger. but if you know about the hell arc you might already say hes on that level. but im not going to spoil that
@lunarizon1981
@lunarizon1981 Жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, Ichigo and Gohan are so similar: -Both have a full blood different race dad with superpowers -Both are just chillin and will only attack when their loved ones are being threatened/attack -Both have immense potential -Both of them are actually calm and is smart and not goofy and stuff like other characters like Luffy
@PirateKing-ED
@PirateKing-ED Ай бұрын
Can we all take a moment to appreciate how beautiful the thumbnail is
@NotBlack231
@NotBlack231 Жыл бұрын
ichigo just on a different level, its not fair for luffy or naruto, hell even naruto vs luffy is not fair for luffy, i think luffy should just stay in his verse 1v1s until he gets more powerful? ( also i dont think luffy is relative to kaido, cuz he literally got knocked 3 or 4 times and had a full break between each of them and kaido didnt even get to breath for a second).
@lilzothemajestic2214
@lilzothemajestic2214 Жыл бұрын
I mean, Luffy ain't that weak, he's around the country-continental level. It's just that Naruto and Ichigo are a lot stronger than him.
@Packirup1234
@Packirup1234 Жыл бұрын
Naruto VS luffy is a very close match up saying it's not fair is shows u prolly only looking at it from 1 side of the battle
@creation5389
@creation5389 Жыл бұрын
@@Packirup1234 bruh, base momo can basically destroy stars, a single gudodama of kaguya can basically destroy the world itself
@Packirup1234
@Packirup1234 Жыл бұрын
OK then sure
@jayambi7695
@jayambi7695 Жыл бұрын
​@@creation5389 Momoshiki doesn't destroy stars through AP. He draining the planet and everyone on it of its chakra
@fossakwezy3972
@fossakwezy3972 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna note that these three are more likely to hang out than they are to actually fight to the death.
@crocen9720
@crocen9720 Жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY, lets take into account personally factors, friends/ enemies and compare them First Naruto and Luffy, For luffy we got enemies to keep it simple, Dofy, kaido, Akainu, Blackbeard Crocodile, Naruto infact relates to a lot of these characters running a village /town/something Naruto will do anything to get to his goal like this characters, luffy cares about the journey now lets take into account personality factors, luffy pure of heart is not distracted by things, obviously the same can NOT be said about naruto getting off on this bad of a foot already is not good, some can say the argument of them liking food a lot is a personality similarity but everyone likes food, ichigo and naruto get fed up easily with people who waste time like luffy now ichigo and naruto both have similiar personalities but lets not forget that naruto is a busy man who cant give much attention to these people anyways luffy and ichiugo are mostly the center of attention and when not given can get frustrated/upset please check your facts
@crocen9720
@crocen9720 Жыл бұрын
@Fol paly i addressed this in my argument ”everyone likes food” also it’s satire monkey brain
@quackyoin4147
@quackyoin4147 Жыл бұрын
@Fol paly yes
@ZAPRST8879
@ZAPRST8879 Жыл бұрын
​@Fol paly true all of them were spiritual son/successor of goku which is not only a saiyan a food eater but also a gluton
@fpsgod05
@fpsgod05 9 ай бұрын
lmao bro took it personally and wrote a whole essay@@crocen9720
@maddog_editz
@maddog_editz Жыл бұрын
I could not agree with you more in every aspect of this vid. Happy to see someone not overhype and correctly scale the big 3
@Money_Fox
@Money_Fox Жыл бұрын
he over hyped alot
@Sammy123ABC
@Sammy123ABC Жыл бұрын
The only thing he got wrong was naruto due to mistranslation. Momoshiki absorbed a planet not a star. It said “world” not “star” so naruto would be around high planetary like luffy.
@theflamingeagle572
@theflamingeagle572 Жыл бұрын
​@@Sammy123ABC This channel is biased towards One Piece because he is a One Piecetard he always overhypes OP and downplays Naruto.
@theflamingeagle572
@theflamingeagle572 Жыл бұрын
​@@Sammy123ABC Momoshiki can travel through space at crazy speeds. If we count big One Piece planet then we also have to count Naruto sun and solar system feats.
@Sammy123ABC
@Sammy123ABC Жыл бұрын
@@theflamingeagle572 what solar system feats? We know momoshiki can move fast but I was debunking the misconception that he is star level or even solar system level. Naruto in so6p was light speed, it’s a given that momoshiki is too. The one piece planet size doesn’t really have anything to do with this. And I’m not picking and choosing what is real and isn’t. I’m just saying what’s real. The op planet is really that size so that’s why I said that. Momoshiki isn’t star or split system level because he has nothing to say that he is other than mistranslations that has been debunked so long ago that I’m surprised people still think he’s star level.
@____-void-____
@____-void-____ Жыл бұрын
Basically if luffy and naruto even get close enough to land a hit they get sent to the backrooms.
@strongstateofmind5420
@strongstateofmind5420 Жыл бұрын
thanks pal, finally someone who scales Ichigo at his right power. A respectable one piece fan who says that. (until the last 2 seconds were he became this toxic one piece stand though XD)
@blazemander2225
@blazemander2225 Жыл бұрын
Yamma almost destroying soul society while trying not to
@BeeWithSunglasses
@BeeWithSunglasses Жыл бұрын
One thing to note: one piece throughout its history has been clearly shown to have nothing to do with actual power scaling, its about the plot of how these characters interact that oda focuses on
@cowmanmilk8761
@cowmanmilk8761 Жыл бұрын
yea exactly people shouldn't put it in power scaling battles because op isn't about that
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Жыл бұрын
dude... it meant always about that!!! we already has no good zoro/sanji fight since 10 years ago!!! (maybe now with king and queen.... lol but peoples wwaited 10 fucking years for it!!!)
@ancard3118
@ancard3118 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I don’t think ichigo loses even if he doesn’t attack any of them and they don’t disappear from his reiatsu. He has blut vene and I doubt Naruto or Luffy have the means to penetrate this barrier
@Bang_2393
@Bang_2393 Жыл бұрын
Ryou and truth seeking orbs are dura Meg attacks so…
@raptor8189
@raptor8189 Жыл бұрын
​@@Bang_2393 in bleach reiatsu also protects from dura neg. (Basically most types of dura neg don't work on bleach characters)
@NonAryanDuck
@NonAryanDuck Жыл бұрын
Bro kicking the hornets' nest at full force
@muleyamwiinga3988
@muleyamwiinga3988 Жыл бұрын
And spraying nectar all over the fandoms
@SamuelRondreigz4720
@SamuelRondreigz4720 Жыл бұрын
1:02, it’s like they forgot you have another channel where you made what ifs primarily about Naruto. 😂😂😂😂😂
@Young_Wrath
@Young_Wrath Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re the first person to actually scale luffy right without downplaying him like everyone else
@ashlinthomas4500
@ashlinthomas4500 Жыл бұрын
This was the worst and most wank scale ever for Luffy. Half the evidence was stupid and involved huge leaps in logic. There’s a reason why nobody scales Luffy like this or has gotten as ridiculous numbers as this guy.
@Mr.Magic-frog
@Mr.Magic-frog Жыл бұрын
Scaling luffy at star level it's definitely a hyperbole overwanked to make sure that optards would be glad to see luffy reach the cosmic power of Naruto and Ichigo 💀
@Universeblaster_
@Universeblaster_ Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Magic-frog i mean the one piece earth is 3X times bigger than our earth n naruto earth so all his punches that be massive is continental level den if yu see what he did to kaido dat punch was moon level so ya
@unbrokengg4053
@unbrokengg4053 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Magic-frog one piece characters are so weak it’s sad
@Kyonari
@Kyonari Жыл бұрын
@@Universeblaster_ it's more than 3 times the OP planet is half the size of our sun
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069 Жыл бұрын
I would say soul society is universal, Infinite in size would be similar to our ever expanding universe also his speed is infinite: Cfyow novel (canon) has Kenny stopping time by moving and Yhwach can move across 5 different realms in a blink
@obai1593
@obai1593 Жыл бұрын
Theres no proof ss is universal
@ironbat5481
@ironbat5481 Жыл бұрын
No
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069 Жыл бұрын
@@obai1593 There is solid grounding, Hell was a stated multiverse in the canon one shot from Kubo and it is ever expanding like our universe also Hueco Mundo had Los Noches on it’s surface which had a star inside meaning it would be bigger than a star
@obai1593
@obai1593 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069 Damn i just realized that the moon exists in huecco mundo but where does it get its sunlight if it says that huecco mundo is always night?
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069
@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069 Жыл бұрын
@@obai1593 Los Noches has a star inside of it, Hueco mundo is the landmass Los Noches is just the espada’s base
@chico1786
@chico1786 Жыл бұрын
Naruto and Luffy would probably be instant friends, because they both love food and have a bubbly personality. Ichigo would probably just smile and let them do the shenanigans and be the silent friend. These 3 would fight initially, but become friends fast. Also Ichigo slaps, but One Piece is still the GOAT!
@rezx9043
@rezx9043 Жыл бұрын
I would’ve did Luffy vs Naruto vs Ichigo when they’re most relative to each other in said series
@cowmanmilk8761
@cowmanmilk8761 Жыл бұрын
In age or in power?
@MOODYCX
@MOODYCX Жыл бұрын
All I got to say is I love you and with the charmander comment at the end just gained a sub and a like🤧💙
@scarabyte27
@scarabyte27 Жыл бұрын
I was pretty much expecting Ichigo to win.
@Hugm4lsecondaccount
@Hugm4lsecondaccount Жыл бұрын
Next video: Why Sasuke vs Uryu vs Zoro isn’t close
@vehanhewalder6831
@vehanhewalder6831 Жыл бұрын
Uryū slaps both, Sasuke beats Zoro.
@obai1593
@obai1593 Жыл бұрын
​@@vehanhewalder6831 whats uryus feats other than uno reverse. I genuinely think sasuke wins
@7xspeedflash864
@7xspeedflash864 Жыл бұрын
@@obai1593 he’s comparable to ichigo and jugram
@obai1593
@obai1593 Жыл бұрын
@@7xspeedflash864 im asking for feats
@j19l8r4
@j19l8r4 Жыл бұрын
When you realize sasuke vs uryu is just one person fighting and talking to himself (va joke)
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 Жыл бұрын
Are Kaguya's dimensions actual dimensions, or are they more like pocket dimensions? Depending on how they work, absorbing them doesn't mean anything through scale. All that matters is the strength of the dimensional barrier creating that realm. For example, could Ichigo do what he did with Yukio's dimensions to Kaguya's? It would be funny if Kaguya only scales to Yukio 🤣
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
We have no evidence for half of narutos feat same goes for this since it was never explained how big are these dimensions and i think it's pocket since you need abundant chakra to create multiple realms but 10tails only absorbed the earth chakra so kaguya is highballed planetary Also yukio dimensions are smaller tho ichigo can probably break through since it was the suppressed ichigo who achieved that feat then imagine the new ichigo.
@THAT_GUY119
@THAT_GUY119 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter momoshiki absorbed at least 16 earths worth of chakra and ate their chakra fruit. If he wasn’t solar system level when kcm2 naruto is low planetary it would just be dumb naruto got like 5 amps after kcm2 to put him to momoshiki’s level and also he absorbed that chakra before he fused with kinshiki which made him about twice as strong
@xlRyusei
@xlRyusei Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 Kaguya "highballed" planetary lol...
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Жыл бұрын
@@xlRyusei her strongest feat is planetary
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Жыл бұрын
@@THAT_GUY119 momoshiki is so strong that he was getting bodied by the kage and had to dope up on pills to over power them.
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo Жыл бұрын
"BAhH Haki" Dawg's commentary is goated!
@Majin-Dude
@Majin-Dude Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands how luffys gear 5 abilities work 😊
@Mr.Magic-frog
@Mr.Magic-frog Жыл бұрын
Still the weakest
@thelostsoul208
@thelostsoul208 Жыл бұрын
​@@Mr.Magic-frog tbf kishimoto said that gear 5 luffy is stronger than baryon mode naruto
@phxerg9779
@phxerg9779 Жыл бұрын
@@thelostsoul208 No, he didn't.
@simeon1621
@simeon1621 Жыл бұрын
@@thelostsoul208 source? I hate shit like this cause no he didn’t and you most likely heard somewhere randomly
@AnimeDebaterGuy
@AnimeDebaterGuy Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Magic-frog Naruto isnt Solar lol, that shit got debunked a while ago
@matthewadams1674
@matthewadams1674 Жыл бұрын
Multiversal Luffy... Didn't know that anyone actually believed that. Also based naruto scaling
@ihyxza
@ihyxza Жыл бұрын
I thought he was because of the one piece movie
@official_ny_kings7674
@official_ny_kings7674 Жыл бұрын
based how?
@matthewadams1674
@matthewadams1674 Жыл бұрын
@@official_ny_kings7674 It's reasonable to say that he scales off of the dimensions the otsutski create which contain atleast a star of not multiple.
@kywxkk
@kywxkk Жыл бұрын
@@matthewadams1674 no
@livemajimareaction9418
@livemajimareaction9418 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewadams1674 creating something isn't a scale of ap bl
@thuto9490
@thuto9490 Жыл бұрын
No lie sometimes powerscaling goes over my head 😂 I love it tho.
@Random33390
@Random33390 Жыл бұрын
We could all agree that the thumbnail is fire asf
@wanted247ha8
@wanted247ha8 Жыл бұрын
Including Ichigo ruined the video… hear me out the only ones saying Naruto is close are in denial. We already know Ichigo is absolutely broken via amps and Blunt Vene being able stop a killing blow from Jhwach without him even consciously using it (which makes it WAAAYYY stronger). I would love to see aDEEP dive into a Naruto VS Luffy fight (with a 5 clone limit for Naruto) and hear your thoughts on that.
@celestialdiamondgamings2297
@celestialdiamondgamings2297 Жыл бұрын
"Kaido was tanking hits due to being built different" That caught me off guard.
@TechTheFeck
@TechTheFeck Жыл бұрын
Whitebeard could destroy the world because of the fact that his power can literally cause quakes all across it. Even scaling Luffy to Whitebeard strength-wise, this doesn't prove in any way that he can shake the earth. That's like saying that because one guy can go invisible and another guy is sneaker than him, that makes him also invisible. Big difference between strength and abilities, so show the proof that Luffy is able to destroy the world
@t.hokage9748
@t.hokage9748 Жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much sums up their half baked scaling. I think people mix up destructive capacity and attack power too often for one piece. Even if wb could destroy the world, I doubt it’s via vaporization in which naruto could do.
@Kyonari
@Kyonari Жыл бұрын
But Luffy actually Shaked the One Piece earth which is half the size of our sun by Using the Bajrang Gun on Kaido he punched him so hard into the Ground that created an earthquake that could be felt very far away from Wano Kuni, and we aren't talking about a direct punch that would be even stronger I mean by simple anime logic we know that Kaido not even was smashed into the ground with full power since he resisted before getting knocked out
@zeromagnum2811
@zeromagnum2811 Жыл бұрын
Luffy could shake the earth in Gear 5 by turning it into rubber and jumping on it lol
@tiosevenstars
@tiosevenstars Жыл бұрын
Alright I gotta admit I love your take on Ichigo XD I'm happy now lol
@PrayogiCristian
@PrayogiCristian Жыл бұрын
Kishimoto is really held his character creation to be overpowered even he nerfed some of them. Because the story or topic is about ninja. Plus, still so many plotholes.
@x-immortalkill-x5596
@x-immortalkill-x5596 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good video even tho I believe naruto is the second strongest in the big 3 u can possibly get luffy higher in strength based on the haki multiplers and the size of the one piece planet but overall this is a pretty W video and scale for all characters and I’m surprised u was accurate with ichigo scaling so good job getting the Ap for ichigo can be tricky especially some who just think he is just planet level 👍
@Hmm-x5t
@Hmm-x5t Жыл бұрын
Only in raw strength , naruto has higher dc because of his energy based attacks
@yudasrain4774
@yudasrain4774 Жыл бұрын
@@Hmm-x5taybe because chakra is the power system🙀 (and “raw strength doesn't exist, you body can only take what it can output)
@gamingwithjosh4158
@gamingwithjosh4158 Жыл бұрын
Something else you could uses for the ap being consistent in bleach is bargan says he can destroy stars and the sun than you got transcendent aizen and dangai ichigo who transcends soul reapers and hollows
@divinesuster
@divinesuster Жыл бұрын
In hell arc it was revealed that Ichigo/Aizen/Yhwach’s SP was so strong that it held together the realms and kept the dimensions from pouring into each other.
@yeetedanddeleted7184
@yeetedanddeleted7184 Жыл бұрын
ichigo is low multiversal after cour 2 and he has a speed feat thats over 9000x the speed of light
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
Yeah people are literally ignoring his irasuzando feats ( where he technically passed the cadidateship for next sk by literally tanking the gravity of whole verse) and then comes senjumaru😂 yeah ichigo low balled is uni.
@_TheRedditStoryTeller
@_TheRedditStoryTeller Жыл бұрын
Bro got his ZAZA game on lock💀💀
@Light_Yz
@Light_Yz Жыл бұрын
I completely agree but if we were to imply that naruto used baryon mode, that mode would only last 5 minutes and once it’s up and the 9 tails disappears it’s over.
@saucekidjayy9750
@saucekidjayy9750 Жыл бұрын
Bruuuh I’m glad someone else said it cause everytime a Naruto fan says Naruto beats ichigo or luffy they fall back on that form but ignore the fact that it has a time limit and only worked so well on isshiki because he had a faulty body along with a limited time to get a new one 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ then Naruto lost one of his best skills/power ups the 9 tails. It’s not gonna be useful if it’s a drawn out battle
@spuddyuwu2650
@spuddyuwu2650 Жыл бұрын
@@saucekidjayy9750 You could argue that it would still be very effective against Luffy because he had his life span shortened a lot from his overuse of his gears when he first uses them + magellans poison. However, Luffy could go on the defensive and use observation haki to dodge all of Naruto's attacks until baryon runs out.
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Жыл бұрын
@@saucekidjayy9750 then show me ho ichigo could win? lol i watched/watching all and clearly can say how naruto is the strongest (pre-baryon use!) dangai ichigo vs perfected aizen... aizen shooted with his cero what injured his arm well... that cero even was a smaller than a normal bijuu bomb! mugetsu is the 100% of ichigo's power! there is no true zanpakuto... quincy zangetsu and hollow zangetszu already fused when they fought!!! currently fused zangetsu used the horn of salvation and the true ''bankai'' power! that zangetsu used shinigami hollow and quincy power! so mugetsu is the 100%... true bankai with hollow form just can be similar level... we even can talking about how aizen just become similar level than mugetsu ichigo... and then he said he is bigger because ichigo lost his power! but that aizen who was similar level than mugetsu ichigo could stand up against the last enemies!!! (and even his power was sealed!) so yeah mugetsu ichigo is the final power... and i am sure by the destruction area... naruto have much bigger destruction area! he litereally stopped that laser beam what cutted half the moon!!!
@saucekidjayy9750
@saucekidjayy9750 Жыл бұрын
@@gipsymelody1268 😂 ok dude you’re entitled to your opinion same way I am but end of the day they’re just opinions
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 Жыл бұрын
​@@gipsymelody1268 Bro Gremmy created and tossed galaxies with nothing but a thought Ichigo>>>Gremmy
@aeoncodm
@aeoncodm Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, also fyi Luffy doesn't necessarily have toon force but odas versions of it which gives luffy reality warping so he truly is broken, I also don't know much about bleach so this was a great source of info
@bitviper3430
@bitviper3430 Жыл бұрын
You can scale Naruto higher based of how you view him beating Toneri in base. I don’t think it’s enough to give him the victory but it’s enough to take into consideration. Baryon mode is also based of nuclear fusion which literally powers stars so I see it as a star level amp, but it’s debatable.
@RealNotScout
@RealNotScout Жыл бұрын
Naruto lost to toneri multiple times dont forget that
@bitviper3430
@bitviper3430 Жыл бұрын
@@RealNotScout So did Goku to Jiren but you would scale him above Jiren now yes?
@RealNotScout
@RealNotScout Жыл бұрын
@BitViper i mean yea naruto got stronger then him but i personally think toneri might be a little stronger (in the movie)
@Cobano222
@Cobano222 Жыл бұрын
He infused all of kurama’s chakra into that punch so it technically isn’t base
@Cobano222
@Cobano222 Жыл бұрын
And toneri isn’t even moon level cuz the Naruto moon is hollow so it can’t count as a moon
@captainmalcolmreynolds1526
@captainmalcolmreynolds1526 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo solos both verses
@marcoslightspeed5517
@marcoslightspeed5517 Жыл бұрын
Bleachtard. Deamon packs bleach
@Blawgarium
@Blawgarium Жыл бұрын
Fr
@dinomoney2142
@dinomoney2142 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@bullettime1116
@bullettime1116 Жыл бұрын
True
@Kiddos77
@Kiddos77 Жыл бұрын
i really want to catch up to bleach i am at episode 141 (i skipped bleach scaling due to spoilers) but i have too much things to do irl😔😔
@quadirphelps8116
@quadirphelps8116 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t baryon mode only last 10 minutes?
@gabe_4245
@gabe_4245 Жыл бұрын
Best video I have seen on this topic
@hahimthetrashman9142
@hahimthetrashman9142 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to me that anyone could think Naruto is above solar💀
@Archetype_Earthy
@Archetype_Earthy Жыл бұрын
He is lol
@DoubleAAce
@DoubleAAce Жыл бұрын
its even crazier if anyone can scale luffy to solar
@hahimthetrashman9142
@hahimthetrashman9142 Жыл бұрын
@@DoubleAAce anything above planetary for luffy is outrageous 💀
@prxnceanime6335
@prxnceanime6335 Жыл бұрын
@@hahimthetrashman9142frrrrr Luffy is island level and thats it One piece fans crazy
@Kyonari
@Kyonari Жыл бұрын
@@prxnceanime6335 than Naruto Stick level cuz he can't punch through Rock
@ThatBoyAstrooo
@ThatBoyAstrooo Жыл бұрын
I've heard some people scale ichigo to uni+ level as he destroyed a layer of hell in his vasto lorde form and it's supposedly equal to a universe in size, I'm not sure myself so someone correct me if I'm wrong lmao
@He-who-wakes
@He-who-wakes Жыл бұрын
Can't use the hell scaling as the hell verse movie isn't canon
@He-who-wakes
@He-who-wakes Жыл бұрын
He's still uni tho
@deathdealing8859
@deathdealing8859 Жыл бұрын
@@He-who-wakes its is and the rebellion arc is canon to
@He-who-wakes
@He-who-wakes Жыл бұрын
@@deathdealing8859 it's not tho
@deathdealing8859
@deathdealing8859 Жыл бұрын
@@He-who-wakes the rebellion arc is shown in the anime kubo said the anime is how wanted to the manga and not in one of the novels the mention ichigoats rampage in hell
@paul_-__-
@paul_-__- Жыл бұрын
And also to add something else to ichigo in the CFYOW that is stated to be a canon arc (idk if i have to say that it is spoilers since this is the novel that is after TWBW arc and it is not a manga yet or will never be, so yeh spoiler for anime/manga???) ichibe/the monk or whatever u call him himself states that ichigo is equal or even stronger than the soul king himself creator of all the worlds in bleach (hueco mundo, souls society and human world) so this info could hypotetically make ichigo maybe universal lvl? I'm not stating it, it is more like a question since in both soul society and human world have a day/night (hueco mundo has only night so i will exclude it) cycle so theyre both have like solar sistems and ichigo is supposed to be equal or stronger than a being who created these worlds soo basically this vs is even less than an argument after this (i'm not an expert on this "planetarial, universal, multiversal power" stuff, so don't hate me if i maybe miss-interpreted the "universal" power scaling on ichigo),UPDATE: right now i've read some info bout soul king and too lazy to reertie everything but yeah soul king kinda unknown but he LITTERALLY has EVERY SINGLE ABILITY IN BLEACH and holy cow there were like 10 paragraphs with only his moves alone i ignored the part where they're explained bc it was longer than bible itself and teah soul king universal lvl+ potentially so my statements are right if u got till here congrats here is a cookie 🍪
@SteveClearly
@SteveClearly Жыл бұрын
that last sentence said it all 🔥:fire
@williamayers4043
@williamayers4043 Жыл бұрын
really havent seen enough of what gear 5 luffy can do. already basically a reality warper. the scale is the big factor. can he say, reach his arms out into space and drag one of the moons down on the planet? what kinda crazy shit are we going to see from it. but fair enough from what weve seen of it.
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Жыл бұрын
devil fruits still work with stamina... so nope...
@supressor4
@supressor4 Жыл бұрын
Luffy:imagine them to die Naruto:talk no jutsu Ichigo:nice everything is going according to aizen’s plan
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
Luffy power doesn't work that way
@supressor4
@supressor4 Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 imagination is reality
@RiseStreamer
@RiseStreamer Жыл бұрын
Why didn't he imagine kaido to die then?
@supressor4
@supressor4 Жыл бұрын
@@RiseStreamer becoz he don’t know about his powers bro
@RiseStreamer
@RiseStreamer Жыл бұрын
@@supressor4 so, you are telling, oda is planning to make his MC have the power to just kill his enemies with a thought? Well, there goes my hope for cool fights I guess
@CameronkAK
@CameronkAK Жыл бұрын
I think Whitebeard's "destroying the world statement" doesn't translate perfectly to other top tiers for two key reasons: 1. No one aside from Shanks and the Whitebeard crew had known about how bad his illness was so the navy was preparing to fight a threat on the same magnitude as prime Beard. That's also why he got to retain his strongest title when he was obviously no longer the strongest> 2. His ability to destroy the world can be linked to devil fruit hax so whereas other characters may have similar AP as him I do not think they can come close to him in dc so if you lined up all the top tiers and told them to hit their earth with their strongest attack none other than him and future Black beard would actually blow up the earth. Plus the statement "he can destroy the earth is incredibly ambiguous since Sengoku may be implying that he can kill all life on earth or maybe I am wrong and he meant he could straight up blow it up. Overall, good video, it really opened my eyes up to potential scaling for these three since I had the same order in terms of power for them but completely different scaling since you go to so many other videos where they do Naruto vs Luffy and you can always see their bias since Naruto creators take their statements and use them but then interpret One Piece statements in a certain way and then similarly One Piece creators do the same where they low ball Naruto feats like Kaguya's dimension and the fact that people got stronger in Boruto and then up scale One piece feats to fit an agenda. It was nice to just see the scaling if you just take statements as they are given and makes me feel more comfortable with saying things like Naruto is star level and scaling Luffy to high levels despite One Piece severely lacking in the destructive feats Oda has given us.
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
“Plus the statement "he can destroy the earth is incredibly ambiguous since Sengoku may be implying that he can kill all life on earth or maybe I am wrong and he meant he could straight up blow it up.” Blowing up the planet seems to be the least verifiable option (how would they know it could destroy a planet if their world is still in tact and they don’t have the space travel to get to other planets?); I take it more so that Whitebeard could have made a quake so powerful that it could wipe the entire surface of the One Piece planet (which depending on the power of the after shocks could still get Whitebeard from multi continental to large planetary given how large the OP planet is). This is somewhat indicated at Marineford when some cutaway scenes showed random islands around the world experiencing aftershocks as the war was occurring.
@Packirup1234
@Packirup1234 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldorsey9231 remember if Ur gonna use that way of thinking apply it to the other 2 since we have only seen statements of Thier feats
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
@@Packirup1234 depending on how accurate the translations are, I can agree here
@Subhan_Ahmad2007
@Subhan_Ahmad2007 Жыл бұрын
Idc bc the only thing ik is that whitebeard is the goat 🗿
@seth.luv3
@seth.luv3 Жыл бұрын
@@Subhan_Ahmad2007 fax
@DLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@DLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Жыл бұрын
thank you for spittin!
@NotFanti
@NotFanti Жыл бұрын
Funny enough if Luffy knew his power he would be at xeno level being able to do anything he want oda is a genius, ichigo still folds
@homomagii
@homomagii Жыл бұрын
No he wouldn’t stay off the crack
@siddyplayz1738
@siddyplayz1738 Жыл бұрын
Are u high 😭😭💀💀
@megalucario4909
@megalucario4909 Жыл бұрын
What are you smoking bro 💀
@NotFanti
@NotFanti Жыл бұрын
Read the manga again morons, he had the power of imagination to do whatever the fuck he wants but he thinks his only rubber and is dumb in general, plus he viewed kaido as his equal so due to imagination he strugglrd
@tuantran-ek5nz
@tuantran-ek5nz Жыл бұрын
lol if that is true then Onepiece has the worst writting and scaling in history. If Luffy is xeno level, no one else in the verse will even come close to him, legends like White Beard, Roger... will be like ants compare to him. Now the OnePiece world is just about who is lucky to eat Gomu Gomu fruit. I rather have my protagonist lose these kinds of debate but the story itself stays at the appropriate power level.
@Xeno_Xenoz
@Xeno_Xenoz Жыл бұрын
Ichigo is literally low multiversel it’s not even fair
@coreywilson7326
@coreywilson7326 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@pedroandres4697
@pedroandres4697 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo would solo and I believe that luffy has a chance against naruto just because of gear 5, like my guy will just turn narutos rasengan into a basketball.
@Kyonari
@Kyonari Жыл бұрын
In Base, he already beats Naruto in Speed and strength
@Bear-kb4kt
@Bear-kb4kt 8 ай бұрын
Soul society Area Tousen Flashback - Stated that there are stars in the sky Unohanna vs Kenpachi - "Unohanna mentioned that Muken (A part of soul society) stretches to infinity ♾️ meaning Yammamoto is relative to universal. Kubo also mentioned in a recent interview that Ichigo could use his vasto lord face as a hollow mask now.
@chrisboricua1911
@chrisboricua1911 Жыл бұрын
no mater how you scale it Aizen was stated to be dimensionally above yamamoto in his chryslys state and no matter how you put it it means he was VASTLY greater than Planetary Solar system and or universe in that form and monster Aizen and mugetsu was wayyy greater than that and then in TYBW they get EVEN more powerful than that . theres too much evidence to support yhwach and soul king being multiversal or 5d 6d and Aizen is directly compared to Yhwach on more than one occasion you cant ignore what the author clearly intends to illustrate just because you think "sekei" means planet even tho it means realm planet and or universe it does not mean it means just planet and only planet how much more do you want kubo to spell it out for you and lets not get into the fact that bleach is 1:1 ratio with buddhism mythology from names to reals themselves which also states to have infinite spaces in the realms and hyperspaces
@Mrgraduation
@Mrgraduation Жыл бұрын
I think if the SS is a universal sized dimension, Yama could only destroy the planetary construct, instead of the entire dimension. It was specifically said to mirror the “living world” as far as i know there ain’t no aliens in Bleach so idk why So many say Ichigo is Universal Ichigo is still probably winning though due to being so much faster
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a stretch but ichigo being a soul king candidate alone will scale him multi planetary and can be scaled more but def not uni and naruto characters max at planetary man
@Mrgraduation
@Mrgraduation Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 Fp Ichigo Scaring,Sk absorbed Yhwach probably scales him to Multi planetary
@NathanDoyle2121
@NathanDoyle2121 Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 wow you are really low balling Ichigo here, have you properly read the thousand year blood war manga?
@liltrippy8599
@liltrippy8599 Жыл бұрын
@@Mrgraduation Saying that Ichigo is multi-planetary literally contradicts the whole cosmology that Kubo tried to build, Ichigo being a Soul king candidate would mean he can hold worlds (Our Universe + SS which is a parallel universe to our own + Hell which is a multiverse and Dangai which is infinite and it is what holds everything together), Yhwach goal was to merge all these dimensions together into a single one, and he wouldn't be able to do that if he wasn't also a soul king candidate.
@Mrgraduation
@Mrgraduation Жыл бұрын
@@liltrippy8599 The statement says that, the ss is a parallel world to the “living world”, there is not a single trace of life outside of our Planet, I explained that the ss itself being planetary in size along with Earth would make since considering both are placed inside a universe but destroying or merging either doesn’t necessarily mean it is a universal feat, instead the planetary construct of both Kubo’s cosmology can be exactly what it is with beings like Ichigo and Ywach being Multi Planetary+
@likablesenpai2670
@likablesenpai2670 Жыл бұрын
I love how you diss everybody and tell them to leave lol🤣😂
@kslice6484
@kslice6484 5 ай бұрын
They literally wouldn’t be able to breathe in ichigo’s spiritual pressure and my son is fast enough to make after images. Three of my favorites tho good to see.
@planetbirthday6859
@planetbirthday6859 Жыл бұрын
And people still say current gear 5 Luffy is only country level
@Tylearned
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
People swear he throwing an island level punch😭
@kingrippzard2027
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
I remember a debate I had which was like right after the Bajrang gun chapter. I claimed Luffy in Dressrosa was Continental do to Chinjao, which some fellow rebutted by saying the high tiers of One Piece only scale to mountain… despite Luffy last chapter being bare minimum island. That was an odd day.
@planetbirthday6859
@planetbirthday6859 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 I totally get you when it comes to the chinjaou situation multiple times I've seen people say he's just mountain level, if that's the case why the hell would oda say he split a continent, people seem to also forget, or don't believe that one piece islands are big as hell to the point some could be considered countries or continents
@kingrippzard2027
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@planetbirthday6859 indeed. The only argument that I’ve heard against it that kinda makes sense is that we don’t see the bottom of it, but at that point we’re getting far to deep. And that logic also hurts the lasts moon feat if we want to be picky.
@lilzothemajestic2214
@lilzothemajestic2214 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 "UM actually, if you look at the One Piece world, you will see that most of the landmasses are islands. So, no that can't be a continent 🤓"
@arushdixit2792
@arushdixit2792 Жыл бұрын
I just know that G5 is limited only by imagination. ( sadly we haven't seen bigger feats yet ) But I trust oda cuz he stated it
@Random_video_foryou
@Random_video_foryou Жыл бұрын
If that was true and after luffy unluck the full potential of g5 he should revive ace,naruto in base solo one piece trash
@L8vertex
@L8vertex Жыл бұрын
@@Random_video_foryou stop dick riding🤡😂. Luffy by the end of op beats naruto without debate, which he could prolly beat naruto now
@Ghost-yc7eq
@Ghost-yc7eq Жыл бұрын
Yeah if oda makes gear 5 stronger the one piece verse would be dead, its kinda op rn but it can still be somehow balanced. If you want to compare it to other 2 verses tho its quite literaly trash, might be decent for naruto but bleach has reality warpers that could put luffy to shame
@Kyonari
@Kyonari Жыл бұрын
We literally saw him taking no damage from Kaido in Gear 5
@Ghost-yc7eq
@Ghost-yc7eq Жыл бұрын
@@Kyonari that isnt really that much of a feat 😂 its still as it stands a low level toon force, just coz Kaido couldnt deal damage doesnt mean that nobody could, plus Kaido isnt actually that strong, dude got negged by shanks like come on lets be real it was his time to die
@vsvpslim
@vsvpslim Жыл бұрын
Major issue with the scaling argument for Luffy, Kaido scales relative to whitebeards strength as a haki user/fighter, not his ability to destroy the planet as that statement is in direct reference to the broken ass fruit he wields, there's nothing to suggest that kaido can break the world in half cuz he lacks the means to do so as it's a fruit based thing not a strength based thing, so u can't scale Luffy to planetary, at least not with that line of logic
@jr2.oisback345
@jr2.oisback345 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY thank you I'd say Luffy is only really continental lvl because he doesn't really have any feats that can compare to Naruto and Ichigoat
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
@@jr2.oisback345 yep naruto in his base destroying moon and ichigo presence alone disturbing the balance of three realms and his vasto lorde casually breaking hell gates( movie is non canon but his form and damage output is canon) and random luffytard but "he'll imagine their power and will use against them"🤓
@jr2.oisback345
@jr2.oisback345 Жыл бұрын
@@mufeezsyed2664 Ong they will pull up the most bull gear 5 arguments without any actual evidence of Luffy having the power to do that.
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 Жыл бұрын
@@jr2.oisback345 let me tell you most recent bias i heard where i argued taht luffy can't defeat goku and he legit said "luffy will create his fist size of a universe and kill goku"💀
@alefan0458
@alefan0458 Жыл бұрын
You can scale him even higher. Guess why WB didn’t use his powers against Roger and try again.
@kingoghearts2034
@kingoghearts2034 Жыл бұрын
I have been trying to tell everyone that watches anime what you just said the entire video thank you
@jeffyboi8192
@jeffyboi8192 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i knew ichigo would win but i didn't know he was solar system level pretty cool to know.
@sravansyam2495
@sravansyam2495 Жыл бұрын
Yea and manga Ichigo is uni+
@Dust54321
@Dust54321 Жыл бұрын
@@sravansyam2495 no
@sravansyam2495
@sravansyam2495 Жыл бұрын
@@Dust54321 yes go read manga he can keep with yhwach's almighty
@terosonienszockerstube9613
@terosonienszockerstube9613 Жыл бұрын
​@@sravansyam2495 light novel ichigo is even at low multiverse, since he is stated to be stronger than the soul king which is at multiverse level.
@Anti-World_Theory
@Anti-World_Theory Жыл бұрын
I'm fond of equalization if it doesn't really do much to the fight. Equalizing here wouldn't do much either. But the problem is that your putting not only Haki and chakra, but also the spiritual energy. Spiritual energy is pretty much the opposite of chakra and it literally cannot be equalized. I dont remember from when and I haven't watched that much bleach so far, but I remember from a equalization video that bleaches spiritual energy can be closed or suppressed and make you stronger in some way or something. This is literally the oposite of chakra, where using and letting out chakra would make you stronger.
@pokeballblaze9835
@pokeballblaze9835 Жыл бұрын
2:26 nah not so sure about that the tso's was never stated to be able to destroy souls but much rather nullify chakra and Justus so how are we sure that that part of Minato's soul was not sent back to the pure land as we all know the edo tensei which is a charka derived jutsu is the only thing binding them to the living world and as soon as the edo was released we literally see everyone return to the pure land so...
@qtindavis433
@qtindavis433 Жыл бұрын
they erase matter though
@pokeballblaze9835
@pokeballblaze9835 Жыл бұрын
@@qtindavis433 even then i might argue that it does not erase but much rather "erase" as in atomize or something similar to particle release
@x-immortalkill-x5596
@x-immortalkill-x5596 Жыл бұрын
It erased his arms even on a soul level pretty self explanatory and when minato flew up to the sky he was going to the after life and even after his soul left his body as he was flying up his arms was still gone so….yeah they can erase souls
@nobody5066
@nobody5066 Жыл бұрын
I just came here to see if you'd accurately scale naruto. And you did. Good job 👍
@bdjodyssey
@bdjodyssey 11 ай бұрын
ichigo is multidimensional in my opinion since he is a soul king candidate, he was nominated by ichibe himself who is the soulkings guard. The reason a soulking candidate would be near or at dimensional levels is because the soulking holds the weight of all 3 of the dimensions like hueco mundo the world of the living and finally the dangai, the only other soul king candidate is aizen himself. with that being said I'm not some expert on bleach so if I'm wrong i really don't care because this is all in good fun!
@mufeezsyed2664
@mufeezsyed2664 11 ай бұрын
People get confused but yes all the 3 places you are planets but each of these planets are in 3 seperate universes and these 3 realms(ss,hm and wotl) are in garganta. So yes ichigo is the only known candidate who passed his test for soul king. While ichigo does not have hax compared to the sk but his spiritual power is more than enough to hold all the realms.
@itsukifrfr7222
@itsukifrfr7222 Жыл бұрын
Putting Naruto vs Ichigo is already super unfair for Naruto but c’mon Luffy against Ichigo is just too far give my man Luffy a break 😭😭
@vxyzz.official
@vxyzz.official Жыл бұрын
30 seconds into the video and I subscribed
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
Dumb thought, but would it be possible to scale Blackbeard to star level (I recall someone bringing up some magazine scan that directly compared his Dark Dark fruit to black holes), and considering that a pre timeskip gear 2 Luffy could make Teach bleed could he possibly upscale from this?
@vehanhewalder6831
@vehanhewalder6831 Жыл бұрын
Durability doesn’t correspond directly to strength. As when Teech goes into his Dark fruit state, he gets a massive durability decrease. Meaning that Luffy would do insane damage currently to him. And Black holes are much more massive than stars eating solar systems. While Teech currently is just holding on against Law. Who is definitely not Star level. Nor planetary either. Maybe Teech is planetary but comparing him to being star level or black hole level is just astonishingly overwanking him.
@nicolasvanstaden263
@nicolasvanstaden263 Жыл бұрын
I think it was more comparing the type of power to that of a black hole. Similar to like Escanor using a "sun" but that isnt actually sun level
@clipz6868
@clipz6868 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolasvanstaden263 Exactly… you can wank both to star level, but in no way would this be used in viable scaling whatsoever.
@gogomarioloshi
@gogomarioloshi Жыл бұрын
That's just his power.
@siddyplayz1738
@siddyplayz1738 Жыл бұрын
Luffy is nowhere near star level, and will never be near star level.
@pokegengar2948
@pokegengar2948 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo>naruto>luffy
@DKillerGaMr
@DKillerGaMr Жыл бұрын
I will point out that this was a pretty good video and I agree with a lot of points but one point that I don't agree with is the is the truth-seeking orbs don't destroy souls, just freed them. The main effect of this orbs is nullifying ninjutsu, NOT erasing everything they touch. There was a reason why Sage Mode was a good counter for them, it wasn't the fact that it wasn't touching the orb it was just the fact that it wasn't a ninjutsu. that's all I wanted to say keep the vids going. 2:20
@farunadaniel728
@farunadaniel728 Жыл бұрын
They erase everything that doesn't have sage energy....just like how no body can see or sense limbo even tho you have sage mode but you can sense or see it if u have six paths chakra....tso erase everything and that's why Minato's hands were erased even when he ascended
@DKillerGaMr
@DKillerGaMr Жыл бұрын
@@farunadaniel728 yes but no, I had to do a little bit more research about the truth-seeking orbs. You see you are right that they erase but not in the sense that they are like a Dragon Ball super hakai. It is more of a kin to the fact that they are erasing the physical or natural form of anything they touch that also goes for the chakra that in the ninjutsu people use, like the ones to summon people from the dead. All the summoning jutsu is doing is putting their souls inside of a vessel so they can use it like if they were actually alive. So with the situation with Minato' s arms, the reason that he lost his arms was the fact that his arms were released before the rest of his body was not because the truth-seeking orbs completely destroy the soul of his arms but because they completely erase the jutsu that his arms were in.
@farunadaniel728
@farunadaniel728 Жыл бұрын
@@DKillerGaMr I dont think that's true.....the truth seeking orbs are used for creation and destruction as its what kaguya uses to create dimension....it didn't erase the jutsu it erased the soul itself and that's why even in edo tensei they can't recover....in a sense they're like hakai but with a condition that only six paths characters can resist and use it....its a combination of all the elements with ying and yang release....and sarutobi compared it to ohnoki's particle dismantling justu with the only difference is that particle style reduces you to atoms while truth seeking orbs completely erase whatever it touches
@DKillerGaMr
@DKillerGaMr Жыл бұрын
@@farunadaniel728 you're not wrong in pointing this out it's just the problem is that they never confirmed or denied that the truth-seeking orbs can do, is more up to speculation because even though we see him missing his arms is never confirmed that his soul arms were erased only stopping him from regenerating. In case boruto has confirmed that his arms are actually gone in the afterlife I am inclined to believe there's not. I'm not trying to downplay the truth-seeking orbs I'm just not so sure if I can believe that can erase souls because it only really states that they can atomize things. But if you can point me in the direction where they pacifically state that it removes the soul entirely like the Sol reach jutsu or sealing jutsu please link.
@njstars3189
@njstars3189 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo slaps both of them and there moms
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU
@ImchautzuCHAUTZU Жыл бұрын
Yes but not Luffy's mom cause that bitch with Deku's dad
@breh760
@breh760 Жыл бұрын
ichigo broke hell’s gate in vasto lorde and yama himself stated that it was impossible to break and if im not mistaken im pretty sure that he can break it but i doubt it
@egg99362ofthem
@egg99362ofthem Жыл бұрын
that movie was not canon
@Justafeint
@Justafeint Жыл бұрын
@@egg99362ofthem Hell is now confirmed to be canon as there is a manga about it by Kubo himself. So yeah.
@lunarizon1981
@lunarizon1981 Жыл бұрын
@@Justafeint No, like. Hell arc is canon, not the Hellverse movie.
@TsukiSamaX
@TsukiSamaX Жыл бұрын
@@lunarizon1981 two of the movies are canon now according to the CFYOW
@lunarizon1981
@lunarizon1981 Жыл бұрын
@@TsukiSamaX Give me the source, dont just say "according to CFYOW". Hellverse isn't canon, his golden skull form isnt canon either, and that movie didnt affect the main bleach series in any way
@sugoikey1787
@sugoikey1787 Жыл бұрын
I got Luffy taking Naruto but yeah Ichigo destroying them both 🧑🏾‍🦯
@x-immortalkill-x5596
@x-immortalkill-x5596 Жыл бұрын
No sadly naruto destroys luffy but ichigo does stomp both easily
@bingobango8168
@bingobango8168 Жыл бұрын
Naruto stomps luffy
@rxgz5722
@rxgz5722 Жыл бұрын
dont really know why Ichigo is in this video bro is a walking cheatcode and some people actually said luffy shits on ichigo because one piece is a good anime
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