Why Nessarose Becomes THE WICKED WITCH OF THE EAST?...

[@trulykey8106]

I knew that I didn't like Nessa to begin with..She let everyone make fun of her own sister, and she didn't ever stick up for her!She was actually ashamed of her sister, and that's the reason I didn't like her..How can you sit back and watch how horribly your own father or classmates treat a sibling?? Just bad feelings from her from the start

[@jwinters3190]

Well, she literally can't stand sooo.....I guess that answers that part of your question lol. Otherwise, I totally agree.

[@ninaowusu8157]

@@jwinters3190😢😂😂

[@austin-w8j]

Well nessa also was raised by her father to hate her sister

[@SabinaCabanero]

She also explains in Act 2 she depended on Elphaba all her life hoping she could use her powers to make her walk but I highly doubt that she ever did ask Elphie to help her as she really lives up to being the Governor’s favorite. She never defends Elphie from all the countless judgements from their classmates and even their father. It’s too obvious their father raised her to think Elphie was an enemy because their mother died giving birth to Nessa. When really all this fault is the mother’s for having an affair. Too obvious as well the governess never told the truth. Even worse Nessa blamed Elphaba for Boq’s Tin Man transformation when in fact Nessa started it casting a spell to try to make Boq love her and Elphie was only doing it save his life

[@melindahansen-x2x]

She tried too at the Ozdust ballroom she witnessed everybody watching them making fun of her outfit and the pointed hat humiliated and laughing at her and everything at school and the Ozdust ballroom and she does not want to be there watching the whole student body is doing to her sister.

[@bluephoenix6322]

Nessarose is evil she's not nice to her sister who's alone and suffering and she holds grudges about things that are out of other people's control but she's happy enough to blame them for it.

[@Kevin_tx]

NessaRose is not a good person. People seem to skim right over it. Shes actually mean to Elphaba. Where as Elphaba is kind

[@cambenji]

have you seen the play?

[@ajstudios9210]

Reminds me of my old boss. She too was similar to Nessa, physically, and seemed nice at first but later turned out to be an awful batch. I hated her.

[@melindahansen-x2x]

@@Kevin_tx Have you seen the beginning when they were little and young children when Munchkin children bullying Elphaba and NessaRose she was crying. Elphaba she was there for her little sister reading a book to her.

[@ElleBaby87]

​@cambenji have you read the books because the play is not accurate at all

[@SabinaCabanero]

The foreshadowing of what Nessa did to Boq and keeping him with her is actually before Elphie gets in the train. When Glinda announced the changing of her name, Boq is seen cheering for Glinda so hard. Nessa takes this as a bit of betrayal because at that point she was in love with him. So she wheeled away.

[@jamestrump8098]

I wonder how his wife and newborn feel about all of this

[@CaiJabari]

​@@jamestrump8098The newborn doesn't care about it, and neither does anyone else. Everyone just likes pointing fingers.

[@SoundClaw09]

I kinda caught that when I saw the movie in theatres. Was wondering what happened next.

[@mikemikeinc]

Umm...no. When Elphaba (in the play, Glinda in the novel) adds magic to the shoes, she is able to walk while she wears them. She was mean to the munchkins because she didn't want Boq to leave her. When she gets the ability to walk, he feels she doesn't need him anymore. So he leaves her. Nessa tries to use the grimmerie to cast a spell but since she can't read it right she makes his heart small. So Elphaba has to turn him into something that doesn't need a heart. That's why and how he becomes the Tin Man. Please tell the story correctly.

[@raat_poison]

i think they’re telling another portrayal

[@madiej11]

I never liked Boq 😂

[@silentivine]

i love you so much for telling all this!

[@Sasugoat]

@@madiej11I did

[@irishkk88]

Theres differences between the movie and the play and the book. This may be one of the differences.

[@marrane87]

The real wicked Is Nessa, AND i liked how in the movie you can see bits of her selfishness.

[@lemonadelemon1960]

It’s more than that. Nessarose got her label from all the munchkins she’d enslaved. She took all their rights away, forcing boq into servitude to her.

[@ChienaAvtzon]

Nessarose is just a bad person, from start to finish. She truly earned her nickname as the Wicked Witch of the East.

[@Neosoul_prima]

Plot twist, elephaba is actually the wizards daughter! Think about it, her mother cheated with a man whose name we never knew, loves green, and made her drink a green drink. Then the mystery man was going away on a trip. The wizard, got trapped on a trip, and creates a whole city of green, but doesn't have any powers, never got to have a family. Yet the girl who's green since birth, is due to her mom cheating, and is most likely his daughter with all the power he needs, realizes he ain't shit! It only makes sense lmao

[@jaicahill]

Your right he is Elpheba's Father

[@davidcarter9959]

also you can notice it's jeff goldblum singing the stranger's part in no one mourns the wicked

[@MissRobynonYouTube]

Remember when the wicked witch of the west in the Wizard of Oz had a sister who died when a house fell on her? That’s Nessa Rose.

[@sarahswanger979]

Nessa Rose’s character is obsessive, irrational and immature ….. a great set up for a wicked witch. 😝

[@N0SunR1s3]

And it makes sense because in the movies great and powerful Oz the wizards story, they say the witch turned green due to jealousy

[@theomoreau7365]

And also in Once Upon A Time series.

[@N0SunR1s3]

@theomoreau7365 also true!

[@mikemikeinc]

The Wicked Witch of the West (Elphaba) is green, not her sister, the Wicked Witch of the East (her sister, Nessa).

[@N0SunR1s3]

@@mikemikeinc both end up green! With east just being less green

[@rebeccamyers3998]

Yes Mila Kunis turned Green because Glinda was the Object of Affection rather than herself ( Theodora )

[@oresamateru]

No hate to the actress but she played the role of Nessa Rose way too nice. I remember seeing clips from the broadway musical and Nessa Rose in it was kinda bitchy and really unappreciative of Elphaba’s care towards her. Idk how she will be played in part 2 but i Nessa Rose was kinda evil, so im looking forward how it will go.

[@trulykey8106]

OH NOO i didn't see the broadway musical, but even so, I still peeped that Nesa Rose was bitchy and rude to big sis..It's clear she really didnt like her sis around her..That's another reason why I didn't like her at all!

[@rhettmitchell]

Did you watch the movie? She’s so bitchy in the movie too. She goes back and forth between seeming nice and being mean whenever it suits her. She NEVER sticks up for Elphaba, she literally looks the other way

[@kerisaltchannel3817]

@@rhettmitchellagreed

[@pollychen1735]

In order to make a character relatable, they have to make you emphasize with them. We see Nessa be ashamed with Elphaba through out the movie. Nessa's not nice to Elphaba, she's just tolerating her🥲

[@Emily-df9dk]

I liked the subtle bitchiness. It was enough for everyone to pick up on it and empathize more with how loving and caring Elphaba was toward her in spite of it. Nessa is completely unsupportive of Elphie once Galinda threw a boy her way, yet Elphie is so moved by this same sister’s happiness that she makes Galinda’s dream of studying with Madame Morrible come true. I loved also the dramatic irony of Nessa singing to Boq, “we deserve each other,” not knowing how right she was 😂

[@madisonhoffman4144]

When they were kids, i really wondered why nessa never told her her father that it was kids bullying the two of them that made her cry, not elphie. Also when nessa was older and it was her first day at shiz elphie never would have had a breakdown to begin with if she had just let her sister help her. Thats all elphie wanted to do just make sure she was safe, yet nessa always acted like a brat.

[@mikemikeinc]

@@madisonhoffman4144 she was really young and barely spoke to Elphaba with words. Even if she could, her dad was a jerk and wouldn't care anyway.

[@kdg.2291]

I dont think Nessarose ever loved her sister to begin with.

[@FireArtVids21]

Probably because of her father. The governor treated his oldest daughter like shit and blames her for everything. I was hoping the governor would get dealt with in the movie

[@Fadinhayleh]

In the book it's very different. She became the Eminent Thropp and rules the munchkinland,bla bla bla, it was everything okay. Everyone was okay with her, then she started helping people with her Magic,And then she started being referred as the wicked witch of the east and she likes this "title" so everyone to call her by that. Its very different in the book :)

[@Lau3464l]

Errr not exactly. In the book, she rules munchkinland as the eminence with incongruous religious theocracy and magic, eventually leading a revolt to have munchkinland declared independent from oz. She cuts off her citizens from the rest of oz, forbidding them from leaving, and is labelled a tyrant for using magic and claiming it’s permissible by god despite being sacrilegious. It’s not that she LIKES the name, she just doesn’t care.

[@nathanelitheprince2114]

Boq and the actor are the same person lol he is literallyy playing himself 😂 ☕️

[@333mimiii]

🤡

[@kiwiequis4144]

@333mimiiisorry babes but you can’t convince me that having an affair while your wife is at home with your newborn is anything more then deplorable. It’s very tiny heart behavior.

[@333mimiii]

@ that rumour was debunked months ago, (the reporter that wrote the fake article was kicked out of work) if you don’t keep up with the news, that’s your problem.

[@ElTiano21]

Oh damn! Seems like Ethan Slater (Boq) was literally playing himself in the movie

[@rebekah9713]

​@@jordanreadsalot That's not what his wife said.

[@belle_lia]

STOP😭

[@rhettmitchell]

@@rebekah9713 you’re wrong lmao that was fully debunked by said ex wife. She said she didn’t know where those quotes came from. Like “Ariana isn’t a girl’s girl”, she never said any of that. Both couples were already separated. This was all fabricated by the press to make Ariana look bad (are we surprised)

[@kerisaltchannel3817]

OH😂

[@woodlandrctracks5987]

They dropped a house on a woman in a wheelchair.... that makes that more funny 😂

[@mikemikeinc]

She actually can walk in the next one

[@icecoree]

And what's even more crazy is that in the Wizard of Oz movie, Nessa's feet are the only part of her shown when crushed by the house, and the fact that Nessa's feet are disabled lmao

[@latishabuckner8231]

I thought the shoes allowed her to walk?

[@nyes4596]

​@@latishabuckner8231 They changed it

[@latishabuckner8231]

@@nyes4596 then what's the point of them?

[@mainscanner9843]

Who I thought was the bad witch wasnt bad after all. It was the good witch you need to look out for. Sounds like real times.

[@DallasHopely]

I have so much beef with nessa like I’m so sorry but you knew boq for like a day please 😭 “we were made for eachother me and boq” and watching your sister being bullied and harassed and seeing to be the only person who doesn’t see you as disabled who allows you to be an equal without a second thought like girl- you and that house were meant to be

[@sokmnky666]

In the book, Nissan has no arms.

[@MrAlterman1]

So we got Wicked Witch of the West, Witch of the East that Dorothy kills, Glinda the Good of the South (?), so what I wanna know is what about the Witch to represent the last fourth cardinal direction?🤔

[@kennethboozer6148]

She would be south and also good?

[@BasilissaKleo]

Glinda is the good witch of the South. The good witch of the North is Locasta.

[@MrAlterman1]

@@BasilissaKleo Who's that now?

[@Savage_angle]

⁠@@MrAlterman1 the good witch of the north she only in the book I think

[@TOONJERZEY]

i think in this version glinda is the witch of the north instead of south, but you’re right, now i wanna know who the fourth witch is👀👀

[@TOONJERZEY]

ok yall r pissing me off w the “they went woke!” shit. the whole reason nessa is handicapped is bc it explains the existence of the magic slippers. that’s a major plot point in the novel AND the musical. this wasn’t a “woke” casting choice. and even if it was why do we give a fuck? there’s def criticism of fake activism here w the casting but ask yourself if THATS why you’re upset or if it’s just simply seeing a black and disabled actor on screen in a major role (as if nessa was ever more than just a pair of feet under a house but i digress). like oml why are we purposely being stupid 🤦 just admit you don’t wanna see black or disabled ppl in big roles! don’t shit on the story just because it doesn’t resonate with YOU personally. also in ref to them casting Cynthia as Elphaba: COLORISM and ABUSE OF POLITICAL POWER are the main themes of the wicked book, musical AND movie, so a woman of color playing elphaba makes WAY more sense than a white woman does (no disrespect to idina or the many other talented elphabas). at the end of the day she’s still painted green anyway. the story is literally abt society outcasting her because of her skin color. you don’t need to be an “SJW” to comprehend that, you just need basic media literacy. like if you don’t like musicals just say that, don’t shit on black and disabled ppl?? like you can criticize writing choices without being a dick to an entire group of ppl. that being said i really do wonder how they’re gonna handle the shoes in act 2 since marissa bode can’t actually walk 🤨 i hear she’s keeping her song from the musical but that song requires her to walk in the slippers. i doubt they’d do a body double just for that, so i wonder if they’ll just enchant them another way? def can’t wait to see how they’re gonna handle that in part 2 🤔

[@benedictflanagan9353]

I dont get the colorism critique. Cynthia Erivo is a mega-talented singer and she's more than qualified to play Elphaba. Who cares what her skin color is?

[@TOONJERZEY]

@ i agree with that, she is extremely talented and was born to play this role. i’m saying that the ppl trashing them for casting her as a black woman are not only just straight up racist, they’re ignoring the fact that as a black woman she specifically resonates with the role since elphaba also faces colorism. ppl shitting on them for casting her and making it out to be a “woke” choice clearly have no idea the themes of wicked

[@benedictflanagan9353]

@@TOONJERZEY I agree. These people think that every time a black person is cast for a role, it's a diversity hire 🙄

[@NiblingoBazinga1975]

Tell me you haven't read the book without saying you haven't read the book. It is NOT in the slightest about colorism & no it does not "make more sense" that a woman of color plays Elphaba. The books major themes are the nature of evil, propaganda and terrorism. Elphaba's skin color was simply the device by which she was initially othered, but ultimately the story is about how she eventually internalizes claims the "evil" reputation she's been smeared with in order to keep people afraid of her. Also, if you've read the books you'd know that Nessa was never in a wheelchair and that she was given the slippers LONG before they were enchanted to help her walk.

[@CormacThunderStar]

in the books she's also a religious fanatic

[@morganbeckley6273]

She became known as wicked witch when she became governess of munchin land as she was vary strictand rude etc

[@coolgroupofcousins]

I watched the musical on Broadway and yes it is all correct and fiero becomes the scarecrow too

[@olisme21]

is the cowardly lion in wicked too or no? or do we know who he was before

[@sophiaguzman4757]

In the play and in the book he's the little lion cub elphaba and fiyero save during class ​@@olisme21

[@Fragglerocker93]

@@olisme21No, but if you come across the book series the musical/movie it’s based on, it’s I think the third book in the Wicked Book Series that has The Cowardly Lion as the main focus.

[@user-uh4ub4ke3t]

​@@olisme21Yes In the film elphy and the prince release a young scared lion cub,who will be the cowardly lion

[@masonwade9924]

The lion is in the movie, remember the cub that Elphaba and Fierro saved?

[@DontDoSadness91]

I'm curious how they did the walking scene or if they changed it

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

According to an interview with Nessarose’s actor, they changed around that part because it felt wrong to try to “fix” Nessarose. She said the scene is being done in a way she’s happy with.

[@robertmiller5516]

Nessa and Glinda are truly the villains in this story

[@erinirvine7588]

I don't think it's as black or white as that. Morally grey exists.

[@elizabethshannon5477]

Bravo! This was absolutely incredible!

[@dreamrose2223]

I thought Boq is the scarecrow while Fiero is the Tinman

[@ImeldaMaguire]

Reverse that!

[@Lovethehumans]

Tin man doesn't have a heart meaning he is heartless. Scarecrow doesn't have a mind meaning he is mindless.

[@mikeclark8739]

In dancing through life, Fiero says, Life is Painless for the brainless, foreshadowing his eventual transformation into the scarecrow. Boq was mean to Nessarose, causing her to retaliate and shrink his heart. Elphaba, wanting to make the problem better, casts a spell on him, turning him into the tin man.

[@OthandoSimamane-ss1xp]

Dam I haven't seen the movie but it sounds good

[@jacksonconnell]

It’s so worth it!

[@SexySkoChick]

the movie is AMAZING! 😊

[@SexySkoChick]

@@jacksonconnell it IS

[@HessenYussuf-oc6uh]

I have not seen wicked jet but who are nessarose gonna be in the wizard from oz???❤❤❤

[@LunaMothMage]

The wicked witch of the East. (Witch under Dorothy's house)

[@gypsywoman9140]

The one who's legs stick out from under Dorothy's house and gets her fresh corpse feet robbed

[@crystalmartinez2656]

This isn’t just seen in the movie, it’s pretty obvious in the stage show as well.

[@spacebrosinc2870]

99% yap 1% info

[@eyelashqueen0986]

Will Dorothy appear in Part 2?

[@sophiaguzman4757]

Probably, no one knows how though...yet lol

[@HaunaMyKiki]

If she does, it'll probably be only for peripheral shots. In the stage show, she's mentioned but never seen.

[@TOONJERZEY]

still hotly debated but allison weir is rumored to play her so fingers crossed 🤞

[@ECKohns]

I doubt you’ll see her face.

[@olly-kai]

This should have a spoilers tag

[@prophet_of_troy]

Don't you dare blame Boq!

[@deathshadow660]

All I can say is she is one possessive woman I mean boq should not have gotten with her and committing to a relationship with nessa but she gone too far

[@HnHBlkM]

So how does she get the ruby slippers?? And do they make her able to stand....only to be crushed by Dorothy's house??

[@johnburnside7828]

Good thing there's nobody around here who doesn't already know what's going to happen!

[@alexmoon066]

😒 really sis? Becoming an wicked witch because of the MAN?

[@JulioCázares-i5n]

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[@Muhdah1972]

Wow full of spoilers here

[@alinamcknight8983]

I think he would have been the scarecrow because he was easily manipulated because he doesn't have a brain. Think for himself

[@breecoward2289]

SPOILER ALERT JESSUS

[@stephencastaneda]

Nessa your a hater babes

[@MrSuzuki17]

Mash potato

[@da96103]

Nessa should have stood up for Elphaba.... oops.

[@erinirvine7588]

That's sooooooo funny. Oh wait, no, it's just ableist.

[@marlontarver2225]

It’s because she’s in that chair!

[@erinirvine7588]

She doesn't become a wicked witch because she is a wheelchair user.

[@mfeliciano993]

It’s so annoying how none of this makes sense. Glinda was the witch of the north and somehow became south. What the purpose of the wheelchair. I can’t enjoy any of this crap cause it makes no sense.

[@Art_museum28]

1. In the books, Glinda is the Witch of the South but is the one who tells Dorothy how to get home meanwhile the actual Witch of the North was the one to greet Dorothy and instructs her to go to the Emerald City. For the 1939 movie, they combined the characters so Glinda was the Witch of the North and the one who tells Dorothy where to go and how to go home 2. Nessarose’s story is that she’s unhappy with how others view her as only the girl in the wheelchair and wants to be loved and seen beyond that

[@TOONJERZEY]

also to add on^^ the reason she’s in a wheelchair is to give the magic slippers an origin story. in the musical, nessa resents her wheelchair and wishes she could walk so she didn’t have to depend on others, so elphaba enchants her slippers and gives her the ability to walk. not sure abt the book but i think they serve the same purpose there too. both the shoes and the wheelchair serve as mobility aids.

[@Lau3464l]

@@TOONJERZEY in the book there’s no wheelchair but Nessa doesn’t have arms

[@Luzlapis]

WoMEN being jealous of other women🙄shocker 🙄

[@Rfdismb]

Um, no. It’s because she loved a guy who didn’t like her and was just doing it to get close to Glinda! That is cruel.

[@TOONJERZEY]

@@Rfdismbyeah this guy also posted another comment on this channel trashing cynthia erivo for being black so i don’t think this guys got a good heart☠️

[@betelgeuseredstone9082]

Go Woke, Go Broke

[@palesgensler3099]

Not only is the movie a huge success. But so is the stage production that it is based on. So that saying. does not know how to apply here.

[@TOONJERZEY]

this movie is making so much money what are you going on abt?? also the whole point of the story is that they villainized elphaba for the color of her skin and nothing else. the story was always “woke”. holy shit media literacy is in shambles🤦

[@imjstar]

lol you’re an idiot, it’s already grossed 500 billion 😂 same with all the other ‘woke’ movies

[@utareangara5529]

And the prince becomes the Scarecrow and the Lion cub he saves becomes the Cowardly Lion