Why NO ONE Plays: Teemo | League of Legends

[@VarsVerum]

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[@ceyx1201]

Title: 2v2v2v2: Auto ban Me: So literally no one wants teemo

[@bokathedragon]

I play teemo 😢

[@jaimeruiz7837]

I know how to make Teemo more of a menace. He throws a mushroom somewhere, let’s say next to a dragon pit. If Teemo uses his E and runs on top of it, he should use it to bounce off of it.

[@AvianAfficionado]

You know it's bad when you'd rather see Teemo in your game than *cough* Yone And I say this as a top main

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Right? Like even as a Nasus main I'd much rather see a Teemo that I can E spam into oblivion than a Yone that can still one-combo me even when withered

[@JayIsTheWorst]

As a sion main, id way rather see teemo over an aatrox

[@Sonny_h1]

bro i dont think anyone cares about facing a teemo since they graduated from bronze. he is just a useless champion. yone is def wayyy worse

[@seanmeadows4620]

I fear a Teemo on my team more than a Yone on their team

[@owo4470]

I rather fight yone than teemo. Teemo isn't useful but he lives to ruin your game.

[@staren1991]

if Teemo was released today, they would definitely have added his E to his passive, made Q apply the same dot, give his W the dash, and then give him a whole new E

[@staren1991]

@zaphrodbblbrx that doesn't exactly fit his kit though... what about keeping the shrooms, but increase their blast radius, and make them apply the damage and blind from Q (that would be disgusting tbh)

[@MangaGamified]

@@staren1991 Not a bad idea tho, mollusks and mushrooms has one of the most varied poisons in the world like some level of temporary blindness. besides the blind would be useless if most enemies are AP/AD casters.

[@emiltrolpl5833]

oh actually thats what happened on wild rift.

[@FranciscoJG]

E dealing damage to target AoE, amplified on poisoned enemies.

[@テッラリア]

His W would reset on kill and he also would get a stacking passive

[@connor7396]

Teemo has a 100% pick rate when your last pick toplaner REALLY needs to pick a frontline champion.

[@MagicIsNotRealWhoops]

If the rest of the team aside from ADC knew that they need a tank and still decided to lock in whatever they wanted, then I will ALSO lock in Teemo and build Heartsteel tank build on him. Tanky enough?

[@zeeakkr1266]

@@MagicIsNotRealWhoops not really since you dont have engage power like lets say shen, malphite or mundo. teemo is un reliable built as tank even if you can 1v2 fine, but you still play like your ranged..

[@UnspeakableFerret]

As a top main, i always tell people who tell me to pick a tank this: If you wanted a tank, you could've picked one yourself. You picked whatever you wanted and so will i

[@zeeakkr1266]

@@UnspeakableFerret I believe a squishy champion top is fine when you're playing an anti carry! but Teemo and most other squishy top lanners fall off in team fights it only takes the team to throw down one good stun and your gone. With actual tanks and good bruisers its not game over for them when they take one stun and they can keep fighting or run away their choice either way a team need engage or someone to tank some stuns etc when bad obj calls or fights are made

[@saltblood]

so true, just like hidden support passive: collector, before 10 minutes all support champions have the collector passive allowing them to almost guarantee take the kill on enemy adc

[@staren1991]

don't forget that his global taunt increases the chance of an enemy tilting by 66.6%

[@thedarkdragon1437]

and chasinf and hunting you down with 5 sweepers by 80%

[@halycon404]

@@thedarkdragon1437 As a Teemo if I see the enemy team with 5 sweepers I consider it won. Doesn't matter if the game is lost, I personally won. :)

[@masaiyd]

this is scientifically proven phenomena, called the teemo effect.

[@dbjdi]

Downside is it applies to your own team as well

[@drradon]

Teemo is the only champ both your team and your opponents equally hate to see picked. Wich kinda tells you how silly league players can be tbh.

[@jorgemargenat2277]

No one plays teemo because how nerfed he become post "rework". Remember that both Q and R used to have a 1.0 Ap ratio and R used to stack damage, unlike now that only refresh the timer. This means that back in the day when Hp were around 2-3k hp, 2 "well" placed mushrooms could kill you if you were playing anything that wasnt a tank. Thats the reason of why teemo was so hated and why everyone stopped playing teemo after the nerfs.

[@staren1991]

I remember the tier3 shrooms with 600 base damage, it was glorious

[@MangaGamified]

you pay so much mana only for some of them to deal only a tiny fraction of its full potential cause of the 'reset/refresh' mechanic. Once somebody is low, you don't have enough mana to finish them off. But still very fun for URF tho.

[@SzambiarzXD]

They put most if his power in Q blind because RIOT hates fun. Literally the worst, most unfun to play against thing on the champ and they buffed it out of all things

[@manchovieclemmons2380]

@@staren1991 they also used to last 10 minutes. I loved it

[@michaelwilson8806]

Hai curbstomped an entire LCS team with Teemo. Riot only said it was time to nerf when Teemo started to affect their precious pro play.

[@ZeroNeedsCoffee]

the less people that play teemo the better

[@pedrocastro3037]

Amen

[@oshk6982]

Agreed

[@milothan-poirier570]

Look guys, a sub botter.

[@SlugRiot]

Dead channel

[@yagoraththeend5031]

Teemo aint that bad with cho gath just eat him (full ap )

[@cursegrimfiend6569]

I mean this champion effectively has 2 abillities and 3 passives(While new champions have 4 complex active abillites + 2-3 complex passives)... So that's that...

[@fantasticalthoughts]

But his e is one of the strongest passives in the game

[@Jay9966]

We need that dash skill that Wild Rift Teemo has, it would immensely help laning against people with ghost/dash.

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

​@Jay9966 so irritating when playing against teemo on wr because of ability changes. At least he is useless mid and late game

[@fantasticalthoughts]

@@Jay9966 i don't think it would help because his damage would be nerfed. And if that happens, he will objectively be a worse quinn. Teemo strength comes from really high ranged dps. If he has actual peel then he loses definition

[@Jay9966]

@@fantasticalthoughts Well maybe we move less towards short ranged high dps and more high mobility poke. Teemo is a versatile champ, nerfing some damage is okay if he gets something better in return. As it stands pure ap damage teemo is really hard to succeed with in teamfights and people that can tank a few shots and stick to you. which covers a lot of situations. Having a dash would make him better in more scenarios and if I have to sacrifice some damage for that, so be it.

[@MangaGamified]

I think when his Ult became just a 'refresh' than stacking onto itself, where it all started.

[@ChannelSurfer661]

As a teemo main, he requires setup to get kills. Shrooming areas with high enemy movement traffic can set up kills easily. So hard shoving waves and then setting up shrooms in fog of war gives him a heavy advantage against most enemies. While liandries is a good mythic on him, he doesnt really need it. His shrooms were nerfed to simply be utility via slows. Rushing Blade of the Ruined King gives him much needed sustain, and then throwing riftmaker or rageblade into the build as your mythic gives you more dueling power. But I find going grasp into tankmo to be the most effective route in most games. The build I usually go is Berserker Greaves into BotRK (or Hullbreaker), into Titanic, into Rageblade. If you fully commit to simply splitpushing, Runaans and Deadmans as your last two items fully delete waves fast enough to pressure towers hard while giving you the movement speed and tankiness to get away once the enemy collapses on you. Teemo is one of a few champions that can itemize for most situations effectively, and can trick your enemy laner into building the wrong resists if you start with an ap focused starter item. If you are up against a team that relies heavily on healing, Liandries into Oblivion orb tends to be the best option in my personal opinion. Teemo really only wins games by drawing pressure and stalling out games so your allies can get their items, or by split pushing. He has a steep learning curve, because you need to know every matchup perfectly as well as know how to space effectively while paying attention to the enemy jungler's pathing. If you can make it to lvl 6 without dying, you should be able to fully control the toplane wave like no other champion can. If you die pre-6, you will have a very hard time against alot of the most common matchups. Remember, as a specialist, Teemo's job isnt necessarily to kill the enemy laner. As long as you can push them out of lane through residual damage, you are denying them experience and gold and that is a net gain. Getting kills is just a plus when it comes to gold, but has the downside of putting an early bounty on your head. Once you have you laner by the balls, you need to focus on shrooming the river to help your team control rift, and later, baron. Now for a few notable matchups: 1. Nasus: Ban him if you can. He WILL outscale you. No, you won't be able to effectively deal with him after he hits lvl 6 and it only gets worse the longer the game goes. He WILL run you down, its not a matter of if but when. 2. Malphite: If you dont go Grasp into this matchup, its going to be difficult. Tankmo will shove him out of lane and will take his tower pretty easily. Just make sure to let your team know when he leaves lane because he will become desperate. 3. Jax: Jax loves touching anything small, just like CookieLoL. He will crush you if he gets his hands on you. A Q max first will give you leeway to stay safer against him, but he will eventually outscale you if the game goes past 25 minutes as he is a better teamfighter. Knowing where to place your shrooms is vital in this matchup to allow you to space effectively if he jumps on you. Set those shrooms up in advance. 4. Illaoi: Dodge the damn E. Its that simple. Trade around that cooldown, and preferably take Grasp or Press the Attack. Phase Rush is also optional. 5. Akali: Again, dodge the damn E. Your spacing has to be top tier in this matchup or you will lose. And then your team will lose because there will be a rampaging Akali. You wont get help 99% of the time because she is a slippery bastard. So pick teemo into this if you want to suffer. 6. Garen/Darius: Probably the most common matchups. If you dont place your shrooms correctly, they will run you down. Its that simple. Work with your jungler to shut them down early. I recommend running phase rush into these two, and preferably ghost + Flash for kiting and rundown potential. Your main goal should be to make sure they dont get plating gold. 7: Gangplank: Grasp is a must or you will get poked out. Again, he will outscale you so work with the time you have. Play around level advantages and stack minions so your jungler can help you dive him early game when he is at his weakest. 8: Irelia: This will be a hard matchup. If you dont dodge her E, you will die. Every time. The enemy jungler will gank for her. So be prepared. Shroom under your tower to at least attempt to trade kills. Keep her away from the plates as well as you can and make her your team's problem later. Vamp Scepter and dorans shield is all she needs to make your poke worthless. Best route is just Q max. 9. Volibear: Q max and press the attack. He cant stun you that way and will take more than enough damage over short trades to make his life hell. I recommend Ghost and Flash to make him uninstall. 10. Mordekaiser: Again its all about spacing. Dodge the E. Once he has ult, run for your life. Use shrooms to keep the wave from crashing. Hopefully this helps new Teemo players and the people wanting to crush Teemo in their games. I will update the matchup list if people ask for specific matchups. Have a wonderful day.

[@aoisora1445]

he got nerfed more than 10 years ago, and has been getting buffed over the past 10 years due to dealing with censors which did not exist before, and people forget when he showed up once in worlds and they nerfed mushroom timer from 10 minutes to 5 minutes cause 10 minutes was half the game time and meant it lasted nearly entire game when placed...

[@RicterCasenger]

I remember that nerf, it fucking sucked when it first happened but I understood it was way too good at the time for just warding.

[@viperblitz4640]

as a teemo main, I can see with 100% certainty, it never gets old. The thing about teemo is that he is macro heavy. Meaning that as long as you stick to macro you could play basically any role with any items. And, since teemo's damage is based on auto's and doesn't need to scale much, you don't have to fall off damage. You would be surprised how much damage a full tank teemo can do

[@cordlessbungee263]

Probably the only champion I am glad to see as a part of this series. Lets hope he stays here.

[@serenitydeputy3896]

Commenting so this can be top comment

[@palwatcher6903]

ok, time to play teemo...and get flamed for feeding cause I have no idea how to use him.

[@Jay9966]

@@palwatcher6903 Don't need to know how to. If you need ad, buy ad items, if you need ap, buy ap, if you wanna be tanky, buy tank items. He is versatile. But there are quite a few champs that can fuck him up in lane.

[@cordlessbungee263]

@@serenitydeputy3896 good work soldier 💪

[@patrickcarter2829]

Isn't he getting an ASU next year? Usually those lead to a short spike in playrate.

[@OwlFella]

Im a teemo player so I may be a bit biased but. His low playrate may have something to do with the fact that every toplaner these days has dashes, cc, damage despite building tanky, enough innate durability and sustain to ignore any kind of poke he can deal, has better waveclear, doesn’t have to worry about blind cuz they either have a way to wait out the timer or still deal enough damage to kill you with abilities, and also scales better. And even with all this toplane is still his BEST role.

[@Seanana_]

its onyl his best role because he cant harass anyone else...

[@qayxswedcrfv1]

Teemo supp is actually quite nice :D obviously not one of the best supps but blind max vs adcs in insane and his shrooms are a decent vision/zonr control tool

[@Seanana_]

@@qayxswedcrfv1 Yeah it's real nice... for the enemy team who picks a cc support

[@euqinemor]

Let's not forget that most new top laners also can generate shields to eat his dmg like Camille, Ornn, K'sante, Sett, Mordekaiser (rework).

[@masaiyd]

try him as support with full cdr. and nashor is optional. kinda different gameplay. but if u r main teemo u can use his mushroom to their full potential to control dragon. and south/east jungle. and thanks to the busrty nature of adc currently. ur q would be great to save ur adc. 3 sec all it takes.

[@yasser5422]

I would love to see a video talk about different champions who got their kits changed in wild rift For example: karma

[@kileroni7865]

9:26 Felt odd that he didnt mention teemo having a dash along with the movespeed on Wildrift wich actually really helps

[@dominicmccalden3107]

He does mention it at 13:30 though?

[@dla749]

and kassadin, along with lux, who just had a mini rework, and janna, who is abou to be kind of reworked. soraka, too

[@deltamth7593]

Everyone gangsta till wild rift teemo-vayne invis dashes into your adc ass and bursts you down while blinded

[@Uberphish]

As a Teemo player, I do it for the DoTs and the fun of proactively setting up traps in common engage/disengage paths. There's something incredibly satisfying about fade-away kills, or letting folks 'escape' you because you know you already mined out the direction they're headed and the kill is basically secured. The key is knowing those paths and adapting placement strategies to where a given enemy team seems to be focusing their energy. Plus sometimes just shrooming lanes so they can passively push.

[@marquistf1996]

This is definitely diabolical and a lot of fun but once senna gets umbral glaive or the enemy team gets more then two sweepers this strat is gone. I think his r should be like cait traps actively usable in fights becuz they arm quick. And then if they don’t get interacted with after 20 seconds then they stealth and increase activation range. Also leave behind a miasma like Cassiopeia to make a zone that damages

[@Uberphish]

@@marquistf1996 If the enemy team is popping their sweepers shroom-checking rather than clearing wards, that's part of the job done in and of itself, and if they're doing it often, that's when I shift more shrooms to lane-defense. Even if people are too paranoid to walk in the usual paths, sweepers can't catch ALL of them, and the rest can really slow down anyone who might attempt to split-push a wave.

[@StonedDragons]

Every teemos favourite placement spot, the jungle gates in and out of the enemy base since chances are someone is going to go running through one at low health at some point and will just die to the shroom. Love doing it myself. Also nothing like facing an evelynn and watching her loose half her health to a shroom and need to base ontop of being revealed especially while setting up to contest objectives like dragon.

[@ryuzosan2392]

Exploring how bad teemo’s kit actually is makes me more proud to be a teemo main

[@unlikealiens803]

Only 3%-4% of viewers will like this and i am one of them

[@discussedbalkanslav7828]

Keep Yourself Safe

[@6ofrozes657]

I actually really enjoy having Teemo as my toplaner when playing jungle, most of the people who do play him are 1 tricks, besides you don't need a frontline for an objective fight if your Teemo sets up around the area early with a lot of mushrooms making taking the obj so much less risky

[@kriskothd9771]

As a top 4th teemo on EUNE i can agreee i have to skill cap my self to play Teemo and i fking loved it

[@Shadow009yaru]

love to play teemo

[@maggiefix249]

Teemo was the reason I even started playing League. He still has a special place in my heart and I play him every now and then, in every role. I realized he is a decent jungler. And he works in mid too, at least in the elo I play in.

[@nvrrspnd]

Sameee

[@mrmangbro6842]

He's pretty okay in jungle, Manco was high ELO with jg teemo

[@nvrrspnd]

@@mrmangbro6842 riftmaker on hit teemo is so good

[@timotimotimotimo]

Trueeee... even with how insignificant he is, I'd still buy teemo skin and be a frontliner when theres teemo on the team. Teemo made me play league

[@thebeatlesforever034]

I am LOVING these little champion cutout sprites, your editors are always amazing props to all of ya

[@paullaraway710]

I could not be happier that this...thing....isn't played.

[@JadeOfficial]

Literally not even close to the most annoying champ in the game anymore

[@rotonek2887]

​@@JadeOfficialits just popular

[@Jay9966]

@@JadeOfficial People love to hate Teemo, when there are at least a dozen other champs that you would rather not fight against.

[@marquistf1996]

The teemo hate is so weird. I think people are just following the crowd tbh. There’s so much other rage inducing crap in this game. Would you rather fight 6 item teemo or 3 item kayn? The question is rhetorical. There’s only one answer.

[@Awesomeboyscout]

​@@marquistf1996It's his identity that players created that Riot kept. That champ is already dead and I won't be surprised if they introduce a Teemo v2 soon.

[@infamoushazard0]

Teemo stands still to get passive and set up ambush start of game. Also teemo: gets an afk warning and penalized for afk 😂

[@marquistf1996]

Literally 😂😂

[@greensabr200]

No body's innocent anymore. There's a mushroom with your name on it

[@salems_lot]

Dudee your editing has improved so much over the years! Your videos are always so satisfying to watch :]

[@keithcalacday5255]

I am so happy Vars you mention wild rift here. I would love to see your opinion on wild rift as a whole gameplay wise. From a game designer's point of view, how much of wild rifts differences to PC is beneficial to the longevity of the game or vice versa

[@keithcalacday5255]

@@icedacream true but you can go in depth in that field as well. You can talk how certain changes change how things work, look into which can work in PC if ported and altered to increase champion interactivity and skill ceilings. Like how much would karma's gameplay change if her iteration from WR was ported to PC.

[@MangaGamified]

Altho both are toxic, you can't compare the other version with Zhonyas boots, QSS boots, GA boots, Spell Shield boots, heal boots, shield boots, *AND GRAGAS ULT BOOTS* (except for the damage), you could be hugging your turret and just one hook you will be sent to their towers with the gragas/xin zhao ult boots(no kidding the map is so extra small but the skill ranges are all the same like blitz hook) It's made for sweaty duo try hards using emulators.

[@kyoron0]

​@@MangaGamified don't forget about evelynn ult passive for every ap champ

[@rebotsomat]

@@icedacream biggest? wouldnt that be cs go

[@mrmangbro6842]

​@@keithcalacday5255I don't really play wild rift but from what I remember the reworks were fine. It's just faster paced league that's easier to play like having healing fruit in lanes

[@pieceless224]

I really like the red/green theme of this video!

[@sparq8957]

No one....except your jungler when you hit promos

[@josueestrada6170]

Teemo is like a screwdriver in a game full of industrial powertools

[@grakalockheart2980]

I always felt teemos real strength is map control. The amount of vision the rodent gives me possibly game changing by itself, the fact that said wards do damage is a bonus.

[@Anonymizer_uk]

Is why I prefer to play him as a support :x shuts down the adc, provides vision and map control, scales into a monster if they don't end before 25 mins or they feed me any kills. Noice.

[@Aimaiai]

I remember the mushroom rework, it was so good, it let me bounce mushrooms across the lane into the enemy laner if I didnt care too much about my wave control at that moment.

[@mrshroom2529]

“Not unlike pikachu from Pokemon-“ man that hurts bro, Kennens my son

[@purpledabs]

I think teemo in wild rift is a cool design for him. Giving him the tacticle roll on e/3rd ability is a nice touch

[@Awesomeboyscout]

Because champs like Teemo is outdated and all newly released champs are BROKEN with 2-3 dashes that resets every kills/attacks, omnivamp, invincibility, etc

[@purpledabs]

@thugxheuer its more of a passive swap, his e is his passive and his stealth is connected to his e, which is like a micro dash. Its the same movement speed as walking and distance traveled, but it puts you in stealth when you combat roll

[@Awesomeboyscout]

@@purpledabs yes I'm aware of it. There are features that don't work well in Wild Rift that's why Riot continues to innovate ways to make QOL "better". Teemo doesn't even feel like Teemo in WR 🥲

[@asrieldreemurr1918]

Teemo with a dash bleh!

[@WaryMason]

*Forever will be my most played champion on multiple accounts*

[@aowens40601]

You say he hasn't been actively nerfed but I remember when his shrooms were an actual threat. Now they are just annoying and the worst thing about them is the slow and the way you can delay minion waves with them.

[@mashopotatomashopotato8611]

10:29 - wasn't expecting that after such an eloquent and well spoken video lmao

[@andrinkoch164]

i really like playing teemo, just from time to time, but he's really fun to play sometimes

[@Seanana_]

smells like cope

[@beloslavbelchev8062]

A thing I really like about Teemo is the objective pressure he can create with his shrooms . Dude can solo secure a dragon or a baron , that's very cool imo

[@Heretus]

So thr enemy team has a total of 0 scanners that are free?

[@What-fv1yl]

Literally a free item that usually 2-3 enemies get counters his ult completely. Such an op ult, wow.

[@Anonymizer_uk]

These guys have clearly not played CDR shroom Teemo. It will take all 5 enemies having a sweeper to get from their base to a drake or baron fight without hitting multiple shrooms, and clearing shrooms will likely slow them down enough to just take the objective while they are trying to get to you. Shroom pressure late game is insane and forces 5 sweepers, and even then they will still be cursing you.

[@Heretus]

​@@Anonymizer_uk Pop a scanner from the entry of your jungle from red top or blue before blue bot, will last till you are at baron , CDR teemo , good luck not being 0/30 and actually dealing any damage with your shooms over the magic resist that exist and the 1000 bubbles , you can have any tank or bruiser just walk over every single shroom and still hardly feel it. If it takes you 5 scanners to clear shrooms , it is not teemo being good , it is your team being beyond awful

[@Anonymizer_uk]

@@HeretusDamn, you clearly know nothing about league of legends :') Impressive.

[@crow_zxc]

Honestly, I don't think ur old teemo video was bad, but thanks for making this new one!

[@skyebulb6437]

if teemo was released today his e would be his passive and it would also slow enemies by 5%, his Q would apply the passive, his W would have a 300 distance dash at the start and would refresh on kill, he would get a new E that has an infinitely stacking passive, and his ult would execute according to the infinitely stacking passive

[@fobinc]

That's just a slightly reworked s2 Draven lol

[@skyebulb6437]

@@fobinc i started playing in 2018 i have no idea what that means LMAO

[@beleva09]

Vars: "Teemo is bad at being proactive and reactive" Teemo: "Dragon's up in 30? Lemme lock down half the map real quick"

[@ahedgehog9297]

I've been waiting for this video! its always a good day whenever Vars uploads

[@digitalon01]

Your video does a very good job at demonstrating how old Teemo's animations and model is. The closer the camera gets to the ground the worse it got....

[@z-cube9073]

I usually watch your smash content but recently I have been getting into league and your league videos are even better

[@TrueKirb]

Wow, I really hope teemo’s ASU turns into a mini rework adding his wild rift because it looks really good.

[@Arandui]

Fun fact: Long before Wild Rift existed, there was a Teemo rework on PBE, which was Wild Rift Teemo for the most part (his W had no dash). But because player didn't like it, it never got shifted to the live server.

[@FalcnPWNCH]

Man we sure have come a loooooooong way back from the days when Teemo was almost universally and unequivocally considered *_"the most annoying/infuriating champion to play against"_* - times truly have changed, and the tiny mascot really hasn't kept up with the pace - now his just another champion on *_the long list of badly aged champions that just...... exist_*

[@Hammer1.O]

I’ve very recently come to enjoy Teemo jungle. Mostly because I can ignore my teammates and focus on objectives and carry via dragon souls or baron fights in my shroomed up river

[@sirquixano5985]

Teemo should have always been a jungler, as his theme and kit looks like its built specifically for damage over time on monsters, stealth ganks, and jungle control/scouting, rather than being a ranged top. Switch his and Yi’s positions, Yi should be the duelist in top.

[@masaiyd]

you know how to play teemo. TEEMO IS NOT A TOP LANER!! ppl dont get this.

[@alienstales]

Until you reach gold+ where the enemy jungler doesn't farm 24/7 but actually invades and wreck you and your laners

[@besaidknight]

3 years is a LONG time in LoL. An Update vid is much appreciated! ^_^

[@SaiKisaragi]

Usually when I see Teemo fight a top laner, it’s like having a 6th person on our team.

[@lameerrorone]

I love how you talked about Teemo changes in Wild Rift. Great video.

[@ezraho8449]

Teemo has pretty straightforward counter play if you know how to do it.

[@BIAKaboose]

I play Teemo exclusively as a support, which sort of mitigates a number of his problems, but really highlights a different one, Chemtech Rift. The giant area, rapid respawn sweeper plants serve to make Teemo support nearly unplayable in the matches that RNG dictates that the enemy team doesn't even need to buy a second red trinket. Teemo support in the later stages lives and dies purely off of setting up mushrooms as a series of extra spicy wards around important objectives, but if you don't practically walk into the enemy base on a suicide mission every minute you just lose all of your setup to plants. It's miserable, and while it effects Teemo regardless of position it's just one extra nail in the coffin.

[@xdesolateone8564]

Buy a second red trinket? Is your jg and sup not running oracle?

[@sauvagess]

@@xdesolateone8564 I think you need to re-read what was written.

[@BIAKaboose]

@@xdesolateone8564 Well in this exact scenario I'M the support, and yes, I get red trinket because as Teemo, mushrooms are just spicy wards. The point is that Chemtech Drake's Rift variant actively screws over Teemo harder than any other champion in the game due to his ult being hard countered by the vision plants and being by far his most usable ability in the late game, and wether or not you get that rift is pure RNG that you don't get to know until 2 dragons are already down. Not only that but it screws you over regardless of which team is dominant in regards to the objectives

[@Awesomeboyscout]

I always like to think that all existing punishments are exclusively targeted for Teemo (eg. ARAM) due to overwhelming complaints from him in the past, which obviously is the fun factor of the game.

[@saphedbarph]

Teemo isn’t the problem it’s just the ones you face are 30m one tricks

[@renesilva9705]

I still remember the teemo craze of 2013...

[@AlphaI250]

I wish i was part of the same world as those who never see teemo played

[@Prestorisotodgaf]

We respect ourselves, that is all.

[@SineFineInanis]

I love the nostalgic music in all of your videos

[@seanmeadows4620]

All of the Teemo players are hanging out in one place. My team in my promo games.

[@leuclamdoc]

I love the slight wobble on the champion icons, they feel just right

[@TheDoctorOfThrills]

I disagree on your assessment of his ult. If you have a charge when you engage and they decide to go in, plant one on a nearby enemy minion for an easy trigger. It has a substantial aoe that can disincentivitize people from engaging. And often early people misjudge the damage it does giving him a shocking amount of damage in full engages

[@javaniverse9252]

The art of teemo is to make the enemy defeat themselves

[@panlis6243]

Imagine if Teemo's Q affected all skillshots like it does with Grave''s autoatacks. Like you can still use it but it goes in a random direction

[@schwanzuslongus7913]

I love playing teemo, have him at smth like 200.000 Points. Recently got into Wild Rift bc i am traveling a lot. I actually really like what they did with him there! Poison is on passive, Q is normal, with W u go invisible for some time (instead of standing around), and his E is a dodge roll (like in Dark Souls) with an increasted movment speed afterwards. In my mind that errases most problems the champ has in league, really enjoy playing teemo assassin

[@TomfooleryVA]

This video was written by someone that doesn't main Teemo. There's a big difference in most of these points between someone that plays Teemo and someone that mains Teemo.

[@marquistf1996]

True but what can we expect. Teemo mains are few and far between

[@TomfooleryVA]

@@marquistf1996 That's true. I just couldn't help mention this though being a Teemo main myself and knowing how to deal with most of the problems he was listing off that Teemo DOES have. But most of those problems can be worked around just by knowing the champ. Hell I even play Teemo mid and win a lot of unexpected match ups just because I play him so unorthodox. And if I get a lead the enemy team will never claim a dragon.

[@Seanana_]

The only people that main teemo dont know how to play the game cause they either Auto lose lane Get a lead but lose anyway because teemo doesnt scale Crush really bad low elo players and win because of the skill gap, which doesnt make the player good in the beginning.

[@Awesomeboyscout]

​@@TomfooleryVAyou are one of the very few who's accustomed to playing Teemo and can play very well and I admire you for that. However, Teemo gameplay is not "constricted" to a certain high-level demographic like you who likes telling others they are not good at this which may be true at times. It goes for all, even for low elo. Remember, it's all about numbers.

[@TomfooleryVA]

@@Seanana_ Spoken like someone that doesn't understand Teemo

[@Shaco.]

His Wild Rift R also leaves a small poison area.

[@dominicpizano887]

I am a proud Teemo main… I only run maximum burn builds for my shrooms so I can inflict maximum mental damage on my enemies with guerrilla warfare tactics.

[@Jay9966]

I totally get that, but tank teemo has a unique charm. People love to run up to him thinking it is an easy kill, then they run in horror as they realize they don't do damage to him.

[@dominicpizano887]

@@Jay9966I respect a Tankmo player and occasionally have run it… Teemo has a natural global taunt cuz everyone hates him

[@hanifcake]

Proud mastery 7 teemo player 🤭

[@amunra8510]

I was gonna watch this and then I remembered you probably have fresh ideas on the horizon that id rather wait for

[@Delmos-jx9kr]

As teemo main i thank you you revisit him

[@stickbugging]

I saw a screenshot of porofessor from a guy figthing against teemo. And he hovered over a thing called [No Soul] [ Plays Teemo]

[@mahe7744]

"expose themselves to attack" is an understatement but yes

[@theodorovaz4427]

The thing that makes people who play Teemo stick to him is his very high number of playstiles and builds that makes him not be boring.

[@topkek996]

Nah, it's the sadistic joy I get from the visible frustration I cause. My vast and lush neckbeard quivers in glee when I see salt in allchat. My necks vibrate from the bellylaugh I wheeze out when the angry slurs begin. The laugh intensifies to a pleghmatic cacophony, that makes my fedora fall, when I see that they leave.

[@Seanana_]

"very high number of play styles" are you saying that because he can build attackspeed and ap? the fuck are you smoking, thats just two builds, his "play style" doesnt change.

[@jirivlk9862]

@@ich3730 I play Teemo and it's very nice, you can take almost all runes in the game. Want to collect dark harvest like Pokemon? Go ahead. Poke with aery or comet, also viable. Sometimes fleet or phase rush comes in handy with dangerous opponents, so you become a slippery fuck. Lethal tempo against immobile, press the attack for short trades, grasp for more of a bruiser build...

[@gearboxmerc1291]

My favorite is taking Warmogs Armor on Teemo. Turns him into a true rambo. Cause I dont need to kill my op if I can stay in lane longer and push towers more frequently. thus pulling enemies away from my allies to chase me. My Teemo strat is to waste enemy time and resources.

[@Seanana_]

@@gearboxmerc1291 and lose the game

[@SadSquidward420]

Rework idea. His shrooms are swapped to an ability, then his R becomes an active ability that you press (even when dead) which "arms" the shrooms with more poison (aka damage) and makes them undetectable by scanner (however not completely , it shows the ! mark above the player so he knows a shroom is nearby he just cant destroy it and know where exactly)

[@lillyie]

back then, teemo's mushroom was obnoxious because of its damage and slow now, that role is replaced by shaco's box. has damage alongside hard cc

[@dnaseb9214]

My brother in Bielzebub, this demon is in every game I play. Either feeding on my team, or if I go top he is against me. What do you mean, nobody plays ?

[@melisamanzo8514]

Have you considered making an ASMR where you talk about league just like you do rn? Your voice is just always so relaxing XD

[@gwaihyr]

I expected to find other fellow teemo mains arround. to point out he is forgetting that teemo has faced so many garens he mastered the bush tactics

[@wesloe]

I think a vid on karthus would be pretty cool, fundamentally OP ult with awkward kit

[@zacthesecretweapon9931]

To make Teemo viable Change his auto-range from 500 to 550-575 His W now activate with a mini-dash (very small)(cannot jump over walls) and goes into stealth for 1-2 sec like Pyke. So he can activate his passive speed buff. I wonder if those change would make Teemo broken 🤔 EDIT : before i saw the end video with the dash. WOW lol

[@apdroidgeek1737]

Then he’s gonna be unkillable cuz teemo also build health items and he’s really fast

[@marquistf1996]

This would be a good start but honestly not enough. R needs to be an active ability not passive. like cait traps. Every other yordle has a good ult or a super ult. Teemo should be the same.

[@Seanana_]

"How to make teemo viable" step 1: make him cancerous with more auto range than caitlyn Guys we found a riot balance team member

[@zacthesecretweapon9931]

@@Seanana_ caitlyn have 650 or something

[@alienstales]

You either buff his range and keep current kit or give him the wild rift stuff but keep his current range, both at the same time would make him too annoying

[@flameofmage1099]

They're afraid of getting shunned

[@williamedwards4151]

*Looks at the pick rate.* *Looks up* Never underestimate the power of the Scout's Code.

[@soulsemblance3163]

9:00 is the one point I disagree on despite you always making a lot of research for your videos. I don't disagree because teemo has a great disengage I disagree because teemos w gives speed, and you compared kennens escape to teemos but it's essentially the same type of disengage, so kennen shouldn't be in the comparing disengages section as someone whose escape tool is better.

[@X-35173]

Vault is less of a "get off me" tool and more of a "get me off you" tool

[@An_Ian]

Funny story when I was a noob playing LoL for the 1st time I was playing Teemo got killed cuz I sucked was about to rage when some guy randomly stepped on a shroom I placed was a discount ward. I didn't think anyone would step on it and as a result that kill made me from from seeing red to laughing my ass off in seconds.

[@themobiusquadron]

as a teemo main i've been using it as tankmo, health/ap teemo. Ironsteel with Demonic Embrace mythical, then runes are Grasp and Blue Runes (storm and mana ring is the only thing I need to sustain) and Using Defensive Runes like double armor or double mag resist or hybrid depending enemy comp. This is how I mitigate what the video mentions due to the problem with range.

[@Wanderer042]

As Teemo main since Beta, I do agree, he needs some sort of disengage. Playing him for years I always felt exposed when going in. Move Quick just seems useless in the grand scheme of things, Teemo having a dash/roll would help a lot. Even professional players who main Teemo have to play him defensively, where you have to place your mushrooms ahead of time to guarantee and escape route. Because your blind dart will not save your ass, and this is true in the video. Unless you can poke effectively with your Blind Dart and toxic shot combo. Most of the time you have to save your blind dart for when they do close the gap. Hit and run strategies like Press the Attack or Summon Aery are your go to runes. Your secondary is purely optional on your playstyle. As Teemo has no range and I always argue he needs a bit more rage for his basic attacks, he gets decimated by Ryze, Darius, Mordikaiser, and Kasante for example. If they can mediate the damage or gap close you, its grey-screen. In team fights is where it gets interesting and with being able to throw your mushrooms into the fight, Teemo becomes essentially a grenadier. Throwing mushrooms in the thick of the fight becomes a huge psychological game as when those land, the damage will decimate the opposite side if they do not move, they have to disengage or its death by dot. Teemo is defiantly one champion that is hard to master, but once you do, everyone will start buying oracle scanners to find your mushrooms. When I Play ranked with him Teemo provides to the team with reconnaissance, essentially those mushrooms become wards or proximity mines, place them in front of Dragon or Nashor/Rift Herald. Teemo does what he says on the tin. He is a scout and information is key, to know where your enemy is at all times. Placing Mushrooms in key places is paramount as vision is essential. Eventually if the enemy team does not buy scanners or pink wards then they are at an information disadvantage.

[@veila0924]

Big oversight in this video was failing to mention the big nerfs he got as part of his "rework." This is why hes got so many buffs, because he was ruined

[@sinjull2256]

I know I saw someone looking at a PTR version of Teemo that was great but that was about 2-3 years ago. Then when you told about the Wild Rift Teemo it hits me, that is where his PTR changes went.... But yes, I am a Teemo player whenever I can

[@QuitLifeTV]

We used to have runes & items with Dodge%. Those days TankTeemoTop™ was a very fun build. His inherent global taunt combined with 'blinding' people and making them chase you through a mushroom laden forest.. those halcyon days..

[@MonticueGaming]

I find teemo does best after laning phase as a split pushing anti jungler. Place a bunch if shrooms in the enemies jungle as the wave pushes up, steal buffs, take towers when you can.

[@StonedDragons]

Yeah, Teemo into Evelynn can just be hilarious as one shroom and she looses her primary method of engage (her stealth) as well as, most likely, half her health.

[@masaiyd]

do the same thing to control dragons. u will have more victories. shroom are aoe. more enemies will be going to dragons.

[@bobyhappy2992]

a suggestion : you made videos about "new champs 200 years or good design ?" I'm not sure you've done it but...how about a review of those champs now that some time has passed ? I'd like to hear more about Gwen, Nilah and Bel veth ^^

[@Fiction_lol]

Hey Vars, i really like that you're remaking your old "why no one plays" videos and i was wondering if you could look over kalista again, it's been 2 years since you uploaded it and a lot has changed about the game and she recently got a quite big buff. Oh and thank you for your great videos btw ! :)

[@Wollfanges]

as a otp teemo i love destroy ennemy and games, one shot ennemy ADC and secure objectif etc

[@LostGamerJ]

As an EX-LoL player I've always had a love-hate relationship with the game, mostly due to unfortunate timing. Every time I had found a new character and play style I enjoyed a change was rolled out that completely removed it from the game. When they introduced the ability to ban players from using certain characters I decided to never go back given how bad my luck had been. To this day the only build to survive all that was the Tankmo build. Using Frozen Mallet it made for a simple and reliable game play. I was surprised to hear a Tankmo build had been used in the championship. I will never return to LoL, but I'm glad to hear it still exists

[@M21assult]

I play teemo supp. Bushes + invisible is op. Shroom the bushes, max q, collector 2nd item, poke the hell out of supp and adc they either dive a mushroom, and they get killed, or they use oracle lens to clear my mushrooms, and they get decked by jungle because they don’t have a vision

[@tktvr9703]

Its interesting how much his Play Style Changes in Wild Rift, there you have more initiative even if just a little bit.

[@gojikardo7817]

I'm a Wildrift player, and there is no better feeling than popping out of nowhere then AUTO Q AUTO to proc electrocute to see the enemy adc disappear. In case you were wondering, i play him only mid because as a top main i have some level of mercy...

[@Peter-zg3em]

i think you're missing the plot a litle bit on the zoner class and mixing it with an artillery mage. in boxing we have a concept called ring generalship. it's control over where and when the exchanges are taking place. zoning isn't the same as kiting, as poking from range. it is the control of space as a means to an end, and that doesn't always mean you want your enemy far away.

[@1Henrink]

Never knew wild rift had differences between kits, thought it was only visual. That's really cool!

[@chinoborrego4828]

And yet, in the last 5 games I've played, I saw 6 Teemos

[@dominicpizano887]

Just got my first penta kill on Teemo (and my second ever)… my Teemo motivation is refreshed

[@oatyoatoat]

Although Teemo wasn't directly nerfed, the durability update and Doran Shield buffs have negated his poke potential for early game.