Why No Plato Of Africa?

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[@alm3143]

There is a Plato of Africa, his name was Mohlomi, he was a Sotho philosopher, healer, herbalist and teacher, inspired by his ancestors in a dream vision to teach peace and virtue. He lived in the 18th century in Southern Africa, and had no contact with non-African people. Even Western missionary in the 19th century recognized his wisdom. He travelled a lot and create an academy for the youth. Among his students were Moshoshoe, first king of Lesotho, who was one of the main inspiration of Mandela action. Ashe !

[@bambooqueue9093]

So what was so distinctive about him? He wasn't around in the same time period of plato but many MANY GENERATIONS after, so what's his specific claim to fame? Mind you, I don't know what plato's is either besides being taught he was a great thinker/philosopher. I don't remember anything else specifically.

[@MythWizdom]

The Europeans probably used him as their model for the Greek Plato, most of the fictional histories of the Europeans were created between the 10th and 18th centuries!

[@hollynonya6991]

@@MythWizdom huh?

[@tylerrobbins8311]

Short answer is the vast majority of african kept oral traditions. It's hard to credit one individual for philosophy if it is kept by everyone orally.

[@mechailreydon3784]

I mean Plato is only Plato because he wrote about Socrates who never passed down anything through the written word.

[@tylerrobbins8311]

@@mechailreydon3784 Well sure Plato wrote about Socrates but this own philosophy was by far my favorite of the classics.

[@hollynonya6991]

@@mechailreydon3784 Greece owes the Scythians for their philosophies

[@jamescorvus6709]

Bro, so when I was first studying African Hodtory South of the Sahara when I was in 9th Grade, I was trying to find equivalent historical roles like African equivalents of Samurai or Knights but I realized in my early 20s that that robs Africa's unique history as to it being a "black version" of other things. What I believe is that us Black Folk in the West are really looking for "Black Versions" of things that are in Eurasia because those things have been put in our faces and we can't imagine what kind of unique societies Our Ancestors created for themselves

[@TheHomegirlHealer]

This is an excellent point! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 We really need to decolonize our minds and retool our way of thinking.

[@McNeillMcLean]

@@TheHomegirlHealerit’s hard to do but possible

[@McNeillMcLean]

You definitely are tight

[@johnhurd3257]

Yes this is a valid observation. We raised on western thinking, assess the validity by their perception. This is the hurtle.:)

[@nirbija]

Good points, @jamescorvus6709! Although we need to appreciate and understand that African societies were not so "unique" that the knowledge underpinning African societies was not ALSO present elsewhere. In fact, it is in India that the Totality of the Knowledge Reality has been preserved when Kamet 'fell' to the ravages of Time in the centuries BCE.

[@sollymadeit]

We have a ton of deeper thinking and thought provoking ideas as well as idioms that are unique as compared to anywhere. The amount of meaning you can pull from a simple idiom or mask or clothing is very complex. Example: The Setswana proverb “mabogo dinku a thebana” translates to “the hands of the sheep help each other.” Here’s a breakdown of each word: Mabogo: hands Dinku: sheep A: (this is a linking word, similar to “of” in English) Thebana: help each other The proverb conveys the idea of mutual assistance and cooperation, suggesting that people, like sheep, should help one another. As they aid each other in staying together in groups and large families.

[@yungyusuke13]

The earliest known African philosopher was Ptahhotep. He was ancient philosopher from ancient Egypt and is most known for authoring, “The Maxims of Ptahhotep”. It was a philosophy on the proper way for young men to behave.

[@Deraeking]

Plato learned his philosophical views of life from the Ancient Egyptians.

[@survivalchic11]

Exactly

[@ThePawcios]

how do you know that?

[@Deraeking]

@@ThePawcios look it up. History tells you how the Greeks and Romans learned a lot of their philosophy from the Egyptian. The same with Christianity, the hebrews was in Egypt for over 400 years until Moses. Wouldn’t you think they adopted their culture from the Egyptians? In America, the African slaves adopted to the American culture

[@Freshanatha]

@@Deraekingexpect the Hebrews were never in Egypt for 400 years as there is no evidence of that ever being the case.

[@Binahx86]

@@Freshanatha What's you proof that they ere never there?

[@admirekashiri9879]

There are African philosophers we know by name from history though. I don’t know if I’d compare them to Plato but, they exist. The following list has a few examples. Kocc Barma Fall Al-Hajj Salim Suwari Zara Yacob & Walda Heywat of Ethiopia Sayyid Abdallah of Pate Dan Tafa of Sokoto St. Ewostatewos

[@Correctiveoffical]

do they have any books or translated text

[@admirekashiri9879]

@@Correctiveoffical Some are translated others aren’t if you look them up you’ll find some of their work like I’ve mentioned below. Ēwosṭātēwos’ work includes hagiography of saint Ēwosṭātēwos Zara Yacob has the Zara Yacob's 'Hatata' Dan Tafa philosophical works include the following: Al-Futuhat al-rabbaniyya' (The divine Unveilings) Kulliyāt al-‘ālam al-sitta' ('The Sixth World Faculty) Uhud wa-mawāthiq (Covenants and Treaties) Sayyid of Pate has the the Moyo wangu, nini huzundukani writing

[@princeikossir746]

Even more ancient is Orunmila the orisha who is actually confirmed to be actual historical figure his who lived around 500bc his philosophy was monumental in nigeria he also credited with creating Ifa divination earliest binary code. Also lol he predates Socrates, Aristotle, and plato and existed at the same time with confucius.

[@milky8471]

Thanks for mentionning Kocc Barma❤

[@hamobu]

There were no great Philosophers in North and West Europe until Roman conquest introduced writing. And it's not just the ability to write, but you also need systems and bureaucracy to keep and file records.

[@dnifty1]

First, most ancient cultures had their own geniuses and scholars but they weren't going around sharing their work with the world. India, China, Africa, the Americas and elsewhere all had their own equivalents of Plato. The problem is that a lot of the writings from these scholars haven't survived. And the only reason the writings of the Greeks has survived is because their work was used by later cultures for over a thousand years after they were gone because the language never died. Whereas many other ancient languages are dead and/or their writings havent survived. Case in point ancient Persia had plenty of scholars and thiinkers as they were one of the largest empires before the rise of Greece, but how much ancient Persian writing has survived and/or been deciphered?

[@leadinglikealady]

I'm glad you eventually mentioned the collectivist nature of African cultures 😁 as soon as I saw the title of your video that was my first critique. I'd just add explicitly that African proverbs = African philosophy. Great topic, hope to collab one day.

[@justchilling704]

The Greeks said they got what they learned from Egyptians and also claimed some Egyptian heritage.

[@spokenriot]

completely. the origin of Greek, and thus Roman and western philosophy (and science) is African

[@Twtgod]

​@@spokenriotlol

[@EudaimonV]

Nice joke.

[@goaheadmakemyday7126]

Yes but the Greeks took philosophy much further than the Egyptians ever did.

[@EudaimonV]

​​@@goaheadmakemyday7126the thing is that the Hellens never said that. They never said they learned from Egyptians nor they have Egyptian heritage.

[@DEITYOFTIMEANDINFINITY6080]

Interesting video I enjoyed this topic. I would think we do have our African Plato since Plato came to Africa to study mainly in Kemet now called Egypt. So perhaps the teachings and philosophies of Imhotep or Ptah Hotep to name a couple. The West part of Africa I'm sure also have their own, but if they did things orally like many then it can and will be difficult to locate them since nothing would have been written down. We do have our own Plato since without Africans there would be no Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, or Pythagoras. I also think we need to look at philosophers and define what it really means from an African perspective and not from the perspective of Europeans or Asiatics.

[@umpropertyinvestmentsllc9453]

I was just thinking that I haven't heard from you in a while. I'm glad you're back.

[@b1crusade384]

How can there be no African Plato when Plato got everything he knew from Africa?

[@apospavlidis4542]

One thing that i hate in western culture is the idea of one man that gave as everything. It can be Jesus, Steve Jobs, Plato, Newton etc. It happens in religion, science, politics. We act like the ideas are born by one man, that is a magical genius ahead of his time... So I think the question goes both ways, why there is a Plato in Europe? Because if you look close at the stories of all those "great" men, you will find out that were influenced by so many others, had a lot of help and most of the times an idealization is happening, we cut out the bad stuff, boost the good ones. Also, especially plato and ancient Greeks are closely related to the civilizations of north Africa and middle East, maybe more than the European civilizations. Nice video!

[@rael6974]

Imhotep anyone?

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

Because Africans taught Plato. Plato came to Egypt to learn...George G James has a book called Stolen Legacy. And shortly after the release of the book he was assassinated. 🙏🏿

[@MasterTrickShot]

Saved me having to type this out lol

[@bboi1489]

Please elaborate

[@dablaccseaproductions5279]

Ishe

[@dablaccseaproductions5279]

@@bboi1489 why does he need to elaborate? Go do your own research.

[@bboi1489]

@@dablaccseaproductions5279 I just want to know his thoughts

[@Spursfaninthe313]

Africans generally preserved information through oral records

[@imstilllearning.321]

Oral records? 😂 wtf

[@Spursfaninthe313]

@@imstilllearning.321 *Oral traditions

[@Twtgod]

The only response that make sense.

[@calhountubbs4031]

Our brother NEVER misses! Another great video, family.

[@marvellousogunne1521]

In Africa, the traditional priests/herbalists are usually the keepers of wisdom, medicine, science. So, if there were any philosophers, they were the ones

[@goaheadmakemyday7126]

Nope. Those are witch doctors, not philosophers

[@marvellousogunne1521]

@@goaheadmakemyday7126 not all priests were bad or did witchcraft. Witchcraft is different to voodoo or a smaller concept in voodoo

[@enockt6218]

The thing is most about African teaching and philosphy etc Often stays in there tribe and family linage not mutch as public information as people in Europe, Asian etc I know it because that is the older generation of my ancestors told me. They have written down those kind of information but often stays at the family and is given to the oldest who secure it and give to one who perserved it. Our family book exempel talk about ancestor who were chief and had plenty of slaves etc. This information cannot find on youtube or internet or somewhere else. I know those kind of information, stories and teaching will be intresting for many. But often is kept hidden for many reasons.

[@havedrill1]

It seems to me the only people interested in African ancient history are people not from Africa. Yes Africa is a large and complex continent but how many Africans historians are interested in what came before Europeans invaded? There was some African writers in the 60s and 70s. But most books about Africa are written by non-Africans. Even African people I have met only want to talk about the present, not the past. There have been great nations all over Africa. Each Country should be researching their ancient past because if they don't, others will. And they will tell their side and give their opinions. Europeans have said Africans have no history, but Africans have done very little to counter that assumption. Videos like this one may help to stimulate Africans to take control of their history because many people really want to know about its ancient past and how it influenced other nations. .

[@Dave102693]

This

[@JcoleMc]

Becuase the Africans now arent the same as those ancient Africans Its like when the germanic tribes invaded and replaced the romans leading to the dark ages , samething happened in africa during the events leading up to the scramble Tribes from the gulf of guinea had gain new found power from the trade Europeans presented and used this power to destroy all those ancient Civilizations of Africa Of Monomotaoa , Monoemugie and Ethiopia , while these tribes had freed themselves from their African overlords they had unwittedly replaced them with Eurasian and european ones . This is where we are now the African dark age where all literature , sciences and arts have been lost .

[@musongakati7922]

Africans didn't need a 'Plato' or 'Confusius' or any philosophers because African philosophy is the basis of our cultures. Children are taught proverbs, puzzles(Okukoikya-in Bunyoro, a Ugandan tribe), what people choose to call, 'superstitions', and actually, much of African spirituality is steeped in African philosophy. To answer that question; Africans have never needed a 'Plato' and we need not look for one. Cheik Ante Diop has much to say about this too.

[@goaheadmakemyday7126]

None of those things are uniquely African.

[@soda8736]

Why have some Africans today still not figured out shoes?

[@AfricanKang]

Bro can you start series on ancient Egypt, you covered so much on subsaharan Africa you should also start history on Egypt(khemet ) given how ancient , large and impactful it was.

[@hatguyfan22]

I bet there was one, his works weren’t preserved. African history isn’t preserved good like Chinese, Japanese and European history :(

[@bboi1489]

No doubt, in the thousands of years of human history, there was a great thinker of some sub-saharan tribe. But since many Sub-Saharan states they weren't as widespread or centralized as the Greeks or Romans, or didn't have the same manners of historical recording as the Asians or Europeans, they were lost to time, or reduced to folklore.

[@Dontdoit_]

@@bboi1489places like Mali and Egypt probably have answers

[@bboi1489]

@@Dontdoit_ They certainly did. Alexandria was a hub for intellectuals during Roman times, and the Mali Empire's main export was books, many of which are still in Timbuktu today.

[@NaNeen]

Oh, the documents exist. Theyre have just been stolen and hiding in vaults and basements somewhere. Alexandria and Mali were epicenters of learning. They know that if we know our past, we would know our strength and Africa would stand up from getting exploited to this day. One day the cycle will end, people will wake up and lost history will be restored.

[@dablaccseaproductions5279]

Would’ve been way more than one, we’re talking about a whole continent with thousands of years of history.

[@thevisitor1012]

I know you've done videos on Yasuke in the past, but could you still touch the current Yasuke controversy?

[@londonmmc]

And how no one seemed to complain when they came out with AC Origins - The one where you play as a Medjay Warrior, the legendary Nubian men of the bow And they made him white/arab-ish lol And why is it only “woke” or “pushing an agenda” to them when a black, minority, or female character is introduced? Year after year we have white people playing parts not indigenous to their culture and they don’t run to their keyboards to call that woke. It’s never an agenda when it’s them. Because they believe they’re always the main character. And any kind of inclusion is really reverse racism to them. Everything should stay the same, and it should be white people only, unless its in a different country. Then they can be white or from that country. But I better not see a black character from a black Kingdom in an African game lol. Trust me bro, I thought about starting a channel and twitch just because of this rahcist bs. Truly disappointing…

[@ProdByQuaDear]

His name is Imhotep.

[@Awmmboy21]

Keep uploading.. Been paying attention to this channel for years.

[@wnttalk]

BRILLIANT QUESTION, BRILLIANT ANALYSIS.

[@davidakinmade3523]

I recommend you read the works of the late Dr. Sophie Oluwole, particularly "Orunmila and Socrates: two patron saints of classical philosophy". She expounded in detail how the words of Ifa in the traditional Yoruba knowledge system were first spoken by Orunmila, an actual human (not unlike Socrates who also orally transferred his knowledge system and never wrote it down), and in fact remains an oral knowledge system still passed down in West Africa till today. We have the words written down now tho :))

[@wandilemenare675]

Bro, your channel is very important. Please keep it going

[@ltsoul9751]

It's not right to say we're loking for europe in Afrrica, maybe some are, but philosophers aren't native or relegated to Europe, where we also were btw, it was all over the world! Including, Asia, the Americas and of course all over Africa. To say people are looking for Europe in Afrrica implies that Philosophy is a caucasian European thing. Plato wasn't all that, he was actually quite limited. Asians also wrote down their philosophies and their philosphers are well known, it's not a sole European custom.

[@jannetteberends8730]

Same reason there’s no Scandinavian Plato. The greek philosophers were unique.

[@glenoneill3950]

WHY DOES THERE NEED TO BE AN AFRICAN "PLATO" ?........JUST BY ASKING THIS QUESTION......YOU HAVE ELEVATED "PLATO".......ABOVE YOU.......FIND YOUR OWN MAGNIFICANCE.....WITHIN YOUR SELF.......WHEN YOU ACCOMPLISH THIS.......THERE WILL BE NO NEED TO COMPARE......YOUR MAGNIFICENCE.......TO OTHERS........

[@nomoru6451]

It's for view most likely, because he did touch on that at the end of the video

[@babaluthandoiyaniso]

Brilliant 🌞

[@Kali4Action]

Khpera (2000) has proven that Greek and Roman antiquity considered philosophy as African and foreign and did not authorize or supervise any work done by Aristotle. In fact, the Greeks persecuted Aristotle and Plato and executed Socrates for even exhibiting the qualities of ancient African mystical teachings (Adu-Asamoa, Barima, George G. M. James, Ph.D). Cheikh Anta Diop’s extensive research has traced the doctrines of Plato to their Egyptian origin and has published findings that demonstrate European scholars and journalists sympathetic to the Europeans' global quest for domination invented new methods of enslavement. The orientalist scholarship has been accompanied by centuries of unleashing unrelenting unscrupulous erroneous cultural scholarship that has mischaracterized the Muslim inhabits of Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. Khpera, S. (2000). Ancient Egypt: Africa's stolen legacy. (cover story). New African, (389), 18.

[@kariannecrysler640]

Excellent video thanks

[@lucienarcos-palma3834]

Idk if the equivalent ecisted, but at one point in history, europeans liked to have dabtes with native americans intelletuals, maybe there is the same with africans.

[@conorhenderson8537]

There were Wisdom Teachers of Subsahara Africa. The point is majority of them are either lost forever and very hard to find.

[@CrowdPleeza]

No written records.

[@tshombemiles100]

Great content!

[@shotelco]

*Non-classical logic* allows alternative models to be developed. "Classical" literal definition is: "judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality - recognized and established value"

[@NoLimitOso]

Great video.... considering the "great" philosophers of Greece and Rome learned from KIMET(The Land of The Blacks)... it seems that before hand the snow people didn't understand their own reality and had to figure out the source of their own humanity and how the world works around them...

[@HistoryHelms]

Yet another banger from the HomeTeam

[@nomoru6451]

Honestly we had more than stupid as plato brotha.. Timbuktu was full of platos, in fact that was the highest school around the world birthing some of the greatest scholars, you have egypt, which plato and all the rest of the so called great greak and roman philosophers studied from

[@goyonman9655]

You reek of envy, resentment and an inferiority complex

[@EudaimonV]

Amazing how brainwashed and ignorant you are.

[@soda8736]

Timbuktu was mostly all Islam writing brought by in by Muslims. Whatever Plato got from Egypt they expanded it . Rome and Greese do not look like copies of Egypt

[@poppysunsettlingstories]

Excellent 👍🏻

[@leemoneyvevo4728]

In Yorubaland, We Had Hundred of Philosopher Such as * Orunmila - *Philosopher of Divination Knowledge* * Osanyin - *Philosopher of Knowledge of Matter and Plant and Herb* * Ela - *Philosopher of Cymatic Frequency* * Jewesun - *Philosopher of Word Manipulation* * Aja - *Philosopher of Plant* * Oshun - *Philosopher of Fertility* * Olokun - *Philosopher of Creation of Water* *Omoluwabi* and *Iwa Pele* is a Philosophical Way of Life

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Wow. Didn't know

[@leemoneyvevo4728]

@@itsbeyondme5560 Yeah, Yoruba had alot of Philosophers, E.g Babaluye - *Philosopher of Negative and Positive of Diseases* Aje - *Philosopher of Wealth and Trade*

[@princeikossir746]

Yeah specifically Orunmila as he woukd live around 500bc older than plato,socrates, and aristotle.

[@liberatewithlove]

Are these philosophers connected in one book?

[@Afro-Capitalist]

Some of the original church fathers were African like Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296 - 373) was a fourth century Egyptian Christian leader,

[@kornelszecsi6512]

As a Neoplatonist I can surely say, non of us thinks that Plato owns Neoplatonism, Middle Platonism or Platonism in general. It is simply called Platonism since Plato was the first who promote the kind of Philosophy we call Platonism. The African tradition of not attributing names to ideas because of community is idiotistic. Also if there were such great thinkers, surely, their names would have endured. Appealing to tradition is a very great way to not give an answer.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

How you call africa as idiotistic when most of the traditions from europe comes from Arabic European didn't created traditions from themselves.

[@kornelszecsi6512]

@@itsbeyondme5560 You made a fool of yourself, the Arabs come from Asia.

[@kornelszecsi6512]

@@itsbeyondme5560 We did. Platonic Philosophy isn't found anywhere in its form before a European invented it. Most of Philosophy is the same.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

@@kornelszecsi6512 It does not matter. The world started 80% of arab, 20 % Asia and Africa, and none from Europe.

[@blackrampage2]

Thanks!

[@sophiepiepie7126]

Some people they live in but they di not Accept to be Called AFRIKAN

[@Angelxvm]

Africa is the root it’s where we first asked why and that why gave birth to spirituality, math, science, history, and literature. Knowledge.

[@johnhurd3257]

Too many philosophers from Africa to even ask the question. The West has it's medicine and school of philosophy but it got it from Africa and Asia imo. We don't need credit when it's plain for all to see.:)

[@goaheadmakemyday7126]

No, they didn’t get it from Africa.

[@ze_kangz932]

​@@goaheadmakemyday7126they did in antiquity and medieval periods

[@yurp7444]

Lately, I've been considering anti-intellectualism and the particular brand of anti-intellectualism that is fused with anti-blackness. (I wonder if that combo has a name? Similar to the way that misogynoir was coined, due to its specificity. 🤔) And here I'm seeing the history and lineage of that term. "Hume and Kant held the view that Africans, in virtue of their blackness, are precluded from the realm of reason and civilization." Soo... *Centuries* before I popped out and into this world, it was philosophized that my mind will not be in 'the realm of reason and civilization' Because I am a member of the African diaspora. That's a strong cup of coffee. 😀 🚶🏿

[@frankhanley808]

You should post your audios on spotify and apple music .

[@Alboogie571]

Thoth and Atlantean priest king has emerald tablets. Plato studied his teachings as did Pythagoras . Research Billy Carson or 4biddenknowledge .

[@liberatewithlove]

Where can I read about African philosophy?

[@Paidwellington]

It's great to understand the nature of Africans on a relative level, to see from their own point of view what inspired them to act in the ways they did. However, we have to accept that much of what they believed (or didn't believe) about the world contributed to where the Black race is today. We must assign a utilitarian judgement to their behavior and say that it was indeed wrong to carry out life in such a subjective manner; if only for the reason that the rest of the world progressed with many advantages and less ills on behalf the modes of thought they adapted as time went on.

[@ivananderson7860]

Ptahhotep could be considered one.

[@alphavegas1]

There were but the bad choice Tribes in Africa made much like most of thr Tribes in the Americas they declined using written word and going on oral tradition instead. The bad part of that is knowledge can be easily lost in wars, or diseases that could go through a region. 😊

[@soda8736]

Bingo.

[@erievhs]

Game changer

[@Daara92]

Cheikh Ahmadou Bamba

[@Frahamen]

Nice to hear Belgium mentioned in African history in any other context than brutal atrocities.

[@londonmmc]

Lol

[@IgboOracle]

How odd to presuppose melanated philosophers would definitely be likened to a Greek MAN + not a WOMAN or a transsexual? Plato was known to prefer men. Wisdom is a feminine principle.

[@avi3018]

Curious of the person in the video thumbnail, seems to resemble a close relative of mine.

[@DrDelightful1909]

❤❤❤

[@nirbija]

Why not Thoth, etc on the European Peninsula?

[@drstevej2527]

So he has no credentials, no evidence and no support in the scholarly community for his claims. Who on earth is CANT? He doesn’t know the names of the most important figures in history yet wants us to believe he understands the topic.

[@georgerobinson979]

Socrates from Africa. Socrates described himself as a black African who lived in Greece. The original Greeks, Romans and Europeans were black people. Black Socrates was the teacher of Plato and Aristotle.

[@EudaimonV]

Nice joke 🤣

[@soda8736]

Lol😂😂

[@hyperhumana]

So, what is that knowledge? Is it also lost because African tradition is that it loses all the knowledge that can be made there?

[@TheTradeuser]

We are saturated with the idea one man came along and then we got something. The truth is whoever has contributed anything in our society stands on the backs of several other people no matter what he contributed. Name any science, math, or invention and you can quickly say he could not have done that without ______. All important people who contributed had someone to thank in front of him. Slaves from the trans Altantic slave trade (holocaust) were the only people who lost all knowledge and customs and were forced to start from the beginning

[@keevancrawford6708]

King Leopold II

[@user-xx3uo8mh1f]

Philosophy of the Greeks came from Egyptian spirituality, Greeks trying to understand Egyptian spirituality, gave birth to the Philosophy of the Greeks.

[@adewilliams8]

Africa is full of the likes of Plato. Every clan, tribe and ethnic nations have them so, it's nothing new! Can you compare Plato or the best mind in the West/Europe to, let's take an example, Orunmila and his IFA divination system which is still in use widely today?? NO!!!

[@qalidurutofmakuria8723]

Africa is not a dark continent

[@tylerrobbins8311]

I mean it is but hey black is beautiful 😏

[@FrankMcCraw]

The very title of this video suggests that Plato is the standard by which all philosophers are measured. We have to do better.

[@ancientstar879]

Imhotep

[@arnoldjr200040]

Why no African Plato. Simple no one in Africa has that much spare time on their hands😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Niani23455]

Not true. There were many like Kocc Barma Fall that did.

[@arnoldjr200040]

@@Niani23455 Bro it was a joke. Damn.

[@ophiuchus992]

They do, names Thoth, also, Plato got all his information from Solon his relative and Solon got his information from Egypt, which is on the same continent as modern Africa. Ps. Africa isn't the name for the continent, Africa is the name the Roman's called the province along the coast, have more respect.

[@yurp7444]

This vid is nutrient dense. ☝🏾

[@andrewnkunda7]

Why no Plato ?....you ever heard an African Man reason ??....they're ALL Plato !!

[@user-fo6ky3dr6g]

Thoth

[@atmoss9423]

The Euro Plato plagiarised works from Africa.

[@EudaimonV]

What do you mean??

[@atmoss9423]

@@EudaimonV All the Greek philosophers studied in Africa. They had no concept of math science astronomy part or even music. All the famous Greek philosophers were credited with African philosophy. White people take Black stuff and write their names on it. Look it up

[@hulkhogan8433]

LOL how... when he never created any literature????

[@EudaimonV]

​@@atmoss9423hahahaha. Then give me the names of these African philosophers you speak of that created everything??? Provide Facts. I'm waiting

[@EudaimonV]

​@@hulkhogan8433exactly this person is ridiculous making things up. It's clear he has not finished school.

[@devinmcgee5130]

10/10

[@AaronSof]

you don't look for Plato

[@rocktafari1]

This is a very ignorant premise

[@BreadAndWaterSurvivor]

We dont need a "Plato." Brotha...read Socrates writings. He was black.

[@goyonman9655]

Socrates is greek

[@yaredyahu3165]

Lol his name is Moses and he lived 1000 years before Plato. Lol.

[@hulkhogan8433]

There's a reason no1 replied to your foolishness thus far

[@FrankMcCraw]

Did you ever wonder why the least civilized think that their duty is to civilize others?

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Africa has high civilized people like the Nubia or Askum. More ciivilzed than europe

[@truthsimp]

Plato learned everything from Africans 😂

[@soda8736]

I don't think he did , at least not everything. But if he did they were North Africans

[@truthsimp]

@@soda8736 he says so himself. I suggest studying up. The entire Greek system of government and spirituality and knowledge is directly handed down. They absolutely revered the people they identified as Ethiopian black. It was called kemet not egypt. This is indisputable.

[@soda8736]

@truthsimp No, they took elements from Egypt just as they did from west Asian civilization like Mesopotamia. But they still have plenty of elements that are uniquely Greek. Also, the Greeks called people below Egypt Aietheopians, meaning " burnt faces". Look up Herodotes descriptions of Nubians and Egyptians and their descriptions. Also, ancient maps show the land below North Africa called Aietheopia

[@truthsimp]

@@soda8736 disagree. You are quoting studies that still believe in 6000 year civilization timeline. I am part of the school of thought that what you refer to egypt is already after the Greeks dominated it. I am speaking of the 60000 plus years prior of Kemet. The civilization that Europeans think tanks want to contribute to aliens. It’s clearly stated in Greek writings of current events of the black people of “Egypt” they received their knowledge from. It’s of no debate in honest archeology. Pluto studied there 10 years. Hypocrites 15 years! And many more.

[@truthsimp]

Plato learned everything from Africans 😂😊

[@soda8736]

Not sub saharant Africans

[@truthsimp]

@@soda8736 sub Saharan Africans are where all Africans and all people came from. So perhaps they were not at that time of the actual learning, but it is the same people genetically.

[@soda8736]

@truthsimp By the time of Egypt , The North African phenotype was already around for 15 to 30000s years, from what studies say. So that's why before Egypt. Also there's is debate if the sub saharan negroid phenotype was the first humans, but people are afraid to have this debate. , Assaelar man is the oldest negroid skull found about 9000 years ago. There is no way to know how the people looked that first left Africa . Where they melanitaed yes, probably due to the climate , but that doesn't mean black as we know it today. People from India are heavily melanitaed that means nothing when describing race. Caucasian like Betbers can be darker than some black people but they are still considered Caucasian. Also Kmt which means the black land refers to the land by the Nile that was the lifeline of their civilization. Not the black people . Only afrocentrics say it means black or people..If that was true why wouldn't they call the Nubians the black land if they were referring to blacks people, since the Nubians are closer to the color black.

[@truthsimp]

@@soda8736 I disagree. There’s plenty of evidence we knew exactly what they looked like, and it does not come from archeologist that use the European terms of negroid features because that term has been inaccurately studied and identified. It is not afrocentrist saying these things, it is people telling the story of their own people instead of outsiders.

[@tb22k]

African rich countries 😅

[@manuelblunt2994]

I just realized that the concept of civil war movie is based on the map of the African diaspora

[@scifro]

What? No African philosophers..? 🤨😠

[@bboi1489]

That is *not* what he said.

[@scifro]

@@bboi1489I know.

[@DEITYOFTIMEANDINFINITY6080]

Africa has philosophers it just finding their works if any have been preserved.

[@scifro]

@@DEITYOFTIMEANDINFINITY6080 PACK YOUR BAGS BOYS, WE’RE GOING ON A TREASURE HUNT!

[@admirekashiri9879]

@@DEITYOFTIMEANDINFINITY6080here are a few examples, many of their work and legacies are preserved. Kocc Barma Fall Al-Hajj Salim Suwari Zara Yacob & Walda Heywat of Ethiopia Sayyid Abdallah of Pate Dan Tafa of Sokoto St. Ewostatewos

[@Alphadogg9]

Tbh every great invention in the United States came from us tbh

[@Twtgod]

This is a great cope

[@ze_kangz932]

​@@TwtgodI have to agree with you

[@hulkhogan8433]

LOL

[@soda8736]

Look around you're house and look for one sub saharan African invention that is soly African with no American education involved. .

[@user-mp9yd1ig5b]

No but our science can mainly be associated with storytelling though there are the Mesopotamia and Babylonian empire who were black people, if you look carefully to carved image of Babylon, we realize they do have dread locks which is represented by tiny circle for the hair!!

[@itsbeyondme5560]

Please stop

[@user-mp9yd1ig5b]

@@itsbeyondme5560 Am i lying search or google Babylone stone image etc. right, and you realize it's not stringy hair like white peoples, but wool type represented by circles

[@soda8736]

Yall gota stop, everyone wasn't black bro

[@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474]

Pretty sure Plato was Black.😏

[@Twtgod]

Lol

[@hulkhogan8433]

Eistein too

[@uptown_rider8078]

Because philosophy requires intelligence.

[@NanakiRowan]

You have a dangerous obsession with black people.

[@visorij3374]

Womp womp