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@joshymcdaniel9233 Жыл бұрын
@@keithmarlowe5569 there is that’s what I’m searching for now’ I saw a few videos last time I looked so I’m searching for them now 😂
@MichaelCampbell019 ай бұрын
Once you DO have it set up, get a piece of stock that's the same thickness as your "production" piece, cut into it with the bit, and save it. This becomes a template/guide for the height the next time you need to make this cut on that thickness of stock.
@ridercoachdanielle32203 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact that there is NO SHORTAGE WHATSOEVER of dudes in my life who keep running up and shouting advice at me, I'm learning woodworking pretty much entirely by watching videos, reading, and doing. Of all the woodworking vids I watch, yours are my favorite. Thank you for calmly, simply, conversationally explaining things in as few words as possible without hollering, going off on tangents, flashing all over the place in quick, confused, confusing ways, or any of the other things that make it hard to learn from someone on video. You're doin God's work, friend (assuming God wants me to be able to build stuff without being hollered to/at by every man who knows me).
@IanCooke-ec5cs2 ай бұрын
This video showed the most common sense way to set up the lock mitre bit. Give it a go. Also, Nubs is right, other videos make the process way more complicated than it needs to be.
@GotCamel2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Freud miter lock bit and wish these companies would imprint the center of the bit on the big itself so there is no guesswork. It would make the $80 I spent on it worth the purchase. This is the best video I have seen on this topic.
@gkacarlie18712 жыл бұрын
Die Höhen- u. Anschlageinstellung ist in diesem Video sehr gut erklärt. Ich denke jetz kann ich den Miter-Router-Bit endlich mal in Betrieb nehmen. Thank You
@philipbyrnes75013 жыл бұрын
Oh you clever bugga, the idea of double taping another board to the piece you’re cutting is sheer genius and I’d never have thought that one up, so very clever. I can think of other applications for it too. Thanks James, that’s where brilliance mate, good onya from down under, tho, we’re really up over lol
@fulesmackofule10 ай бұрын
I wish all videos would be like this on YT. Straight to the point, well demonstrated. I just have a hand router, but I'll figure out what to do based on this.
@johnverkler3962Ай бұрын
Sir. I know it's been 8 months. Please do not do this with a handheld router. There's no roller bearing guide to rest against the wood! A full cut with this wide router bit could jam against the wood and send the spinning router flying with no mercy at you or across the room. If you did this already, I hope you're still alive.
@DKWalser3 жыл бұрын
James -- Excellent instruction. One more tip for those new to these bits: Mill ALL the stock (plus a little extra) you will be using in your project at the same time. Even slight differences in stock thickness will result in a joint that does not fit properly.
@JeremyElliott Жыл бұрын
Goes without saying that you should also mill your scrap lumber test pieces at the same time as your project workpieces.
@cyrilnorrie845010 ай бұрын
Thanks for your clear and thorough explanation on how to set up a lock-mitre bit. Setting these bits properly is an arduous task , but your method makes it quite easy. Your videos are my favorite!
@frankkirschner3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Followed your method and got a perfect fit the first time. No idea what will happen the second time. Thanks from a 73-year old beginner.
@randytellez24516 ай бұрын
Great vid. Recently bought a lock miter bit and was about to attempt my first use. This takes my worry out of the equation. Thank you
@arizonasundevil51289 ай бұрын
Thanks for yet another clear and thorough explanation. Everyone else makes things so complicated that you make so clear.
@jonathanbrady38208 ай бұрын
Haven’t used my lock mitre but in a few years and was having difficulty setting up. Watched this and got it set in 1 min. Thx. Big fan of your videos, I even watch them when it’s not something I’m looking for or needing lol because they’re always so well presented.
@briancole58283 жыл бұрын
The shop I'm at we use them mainly for beams especially rustic beams but we do a relief cut on the table saw at around 30 degrees to take the stress off the cut.
@bdr4212 Жыл бұрын
I am a rookie when it comes to fine woodworking and got a lock-mitre bit in a set I just bought. I played with it a little. Your video really made it clear and easy to understand how to use it. Cheers!
@6ixfishing Жыл бұрын
You are a phenomenal teacher and I appreciate your time in creating this resource. Thank you 🙏🏼
@garbgas11 күн бұрын
Great tip. Use the MicroJig lock miter bit because it has a ledge that is exactly at the half way point of the bit. Thank you!
@TItuszell6 ай бұрын
One of my favourite woodworking channels, clear concise and really helpful advice. Thank you
@MegaWeagle3 жыл бұрын
I had never even heard of this but till just now. Not only do I want one but I believe I can use this bit flawlessly now!
@dalespringerwilson42333 жыл бұрын
Thank you for demystifying this exceptionally mysterious subject !
@jimanderson44953 жыл бұрын
What a Saturday morning.... sippin coffee and watchin Stumpy Nubs!
@jimanderson44953 жыл бұрын
P.S. I’ve used Whiteside for years. Top quality and Made in USA!
@thomasknox77243 жыл бұрын
Like you're clear sounding video. No echoes and no trying to talk over loud playing noise, so called music. I like making things out of wood for myself. Love watching your videos. Good job 👍
@gnic763 жыл бұрын
That tip about taping an extra piece to the board for edge cutting made total sense. Thanks! I was having a problem with that, as the board on edge was exiting the bit and then moving around or dropping, as there wasn't any support for the sharp edge.
@reloadNshoot3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, the downside of using this type of bit it that it does remove some material off of the face it’s cutting. It’s a small amount but you loose the reference edge which lets the piece dive down resulting in a snipe at the end. Adding to the length of the board works to eliminate this as you simply cut the sniped piec off. Taping or hot gluing another reference edge works too.
@oldsarge86083 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stumpy. This is the simplest way to set up the bit I’ve seen.
@toonybrain3 жыл бұрын
This is a timely video as I had just purchased these router bits in both sizes. The package came, I opened it, then I shuffled the bits off to the side - intimidated by what I imagined to be a very daunting setup. Thank you for this to-the-point, clear explanation with good visuals.
@OldKam8 ай бұрын
Great video. Made my first box using the lock miter and it was dead on. Easy to follow instructions.
@stevebutler52562 жыл бұрын
You are always my go to guy when it comes to information and projects.
@gilvaes Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Now I can adjust the bit with incredible simplicity. Thank you for the information.
@conoverworkshops1486 Жыл бұрын
This was an exceptionally clear concise video with straightforward instructions. It was to the point without unnecessary side comments. It is also great fun to see the shop of someone that likes hand planes as much as I do. See you like Veritas planes too.
@Ferndalien3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Hamilton. This is one of the clearest explanations for how to set up a locking miter bit that I have seen or read. I have a locking miter bit, I needed one to make a hollow square beam, and even with the manufacturer's directions, which basically said buy our setup tab, I couldn't figure out. After a lot of fiddling and a number of test cuts I got it as close to right as I thought I could get it and made the cuts. They weren't exact, but I was able to hide the small error by rounding off the corners.
@skygod73588 ай бұрын
Perfectly answered all of my questions. Thank you.
@daverothwell45793 жыл бұрын
Brilliant James! That is definitely the “least fussy” setup I’ve seen so I think I will finally invest in a pair of bits.
@rdwryr20003 жыл бұрын
Be sure to get quality bits. I bought two Chinese Cheapo bits on Amazon and it was a waste of money. The first had an odd size shank that wouldn't fit my collet and the second just tore the wood up no matter how careful I was.
@norm5785 Жыл бұрын
Great video on how to set these bits properly
@ironwood16213 жыл бұрын
Just bought one of these and was pulling my hair out trying to do this. This video will definitely help me to do this correctly. Thank you.
@kenkroner36903 жыл бұрын
Best explanation i have ever seen. Thanks
@falxonPSN3 жыл бұрын
I never even knew these were a thing! Very cool!
@MichaelHarmanWoodDesign2 жыл бұрын
So simple and the best instructions I have seen anywhere. So close on my first try I didn’t even adjust it since the fine corner will get sanded round.
@heystarfish1003 жыл бұрын
Although I’m familiar with another set up process I like yours better. Great tips James. Thanks for your work on making this video.
@lflsremodeling Жыл бұрын
Just made my first miter lock joint. Thank you for the straightforward video! Subscribed.
@watermain483 жыл бұрын
Thanks James. This is going to make setting these bits up a lot easier for me.
@kww9229 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for simplifying the bit placement
@mhstretch3 жыл бұрын
I like your presentation very much. Infinity makes a lock mitre master jig which is a small magnetic device which shows the centre for both vertical and horizontal. I have used it for about a year and found that it makes alignment correct the first time almost every time. It is what your video shows but without the centerline guess work. Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. This is not a set up block, but rather an aluminium piece held on to the bit by magnetism, which extends the center lines for easier alignment.
@Rjat967 ай бұрын
I just received my bits and they came with NO instructions or anything. This video will be very helpful. Thank you!
@Cigarholzworth2 жыл бұрын
Solid video, no fluff..excellent work
@loueubank43993 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I am always reluctant to use my lock miter bit because of set up time but when I finally get the setup right, it is a great joint. Now that I know a more streamlined way of setup, it will get more use!
@gordroberts533 жыл бұрын
Thanks James. I bought a small one a while back but have yet to put it to use. Part of my reluctance stems from several safety warnings about the 1/4" shank ones failing under load, the other part was trying to decipher what I could find on line about the product. As usual, you completely demystify the process. Will be buying a 1/2" shank one soon, the corner joint quality is very attractive to me.
@tracyligon2914 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I had a cheap set and followed your directions. They worked just fine and the ends looked super. Now to get a better lock miter bit! The cheap ones were ok but the joints were not very snug on the inside edges. (No more cheap bits!) These were on 1/2" box sides. No setup blocks needed with your method!
@usedcarsokinawa3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the info in language that’s so easily understood.
@skillcollector98003 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about getting some of these, perfect timing!
@jeffcantor32983 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. I'm about to start my first project using lock miters. Thanks!!
@rudispruell8839 ай бұрын
James, I value your vids. I try to catch all of them, even on an aspect that I do not currently engage in. You teach ways of thinking, which is always beneficial. And, who knows, the need for the specific skill or information may arise, and I will have some familiarity and know a source for greater knowledge. Keep on keepin' on. ps- I have bought several recommended products, especially safety oriented ones.
@josephsantos51392 жыл бұрын
Hey Stumpy, I've owned a lock miter bit for probably over years. It's still unused and in the plastic box that it came in! As you mentioned, was afraid of using it. The massive size is intimidating and I wasn't sure of how to use it and I didn't have a decent router table. I recently bought a Kreg router table and now that I've seen this video I'm eager to try out your method of setting up the bit. Thanks man! Love your videos!!
@henrysiegertsz82043 жыл бұрын
Beautifully simple explanation!
@philclennell2 жыл бұрын
Had several moments with this cutter when I've not known whether to go up, down or sideways! Just be sure you have a mile of test pieces. But this tutorial helps - a little.
@skyedangelo32372 жыл бұрын
Love hearing about family run brands to support, so often we rush to get the best bang for the buck not thinking of the cost this line of reasoning has.
@mariushegli3 жыл бұрын
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@bruce-le-smith3 жыл бұрын
Thank you James, this is very very helpful
@makermark673 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks for this, James.
@TeamProsperity8 ай бұрын
So I noticed you made the horizontal and vertical cuts on the same piece of material and then rip to width, very nice I hadn’t considered doing that but sure make sense especially on narrower material you should point that out
@criswilson11403 жыл бұрын
I never thought of doing both ends of the test piece and then cutting them apart to check the joint, I've just been using two test pieces. Thanks for that tip!
@chrisjacobs74343 жыл бұрын
Right? How many pieces of new knowledge can you shove into a quickie video? Stumpy Nubs: hold my kooshie'd can
@zapa1pnt3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjacobs7434: That sounds like something I, Really, don't want to do. 😲😳
@stevesshaperorigin91743 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!! I had given up on using this bit. I’m will be trying this technique soon.
@richragan48103 жыл бұрын
Great instruction on such a misunderstood bit James. Thank you!
@raymontella22513 жыл бұрын
They sell those little guide templates make it pretty easy to set up although there for a specific size stock. The hard part is standing the piece up on end. if I wanted to do the corners of a draw with a lock miter that’s a dangerous cut. you need to check to hold that piece of stock really tight. I’d love to see you do a lock miter on an end cut
@rosnyleroy19382 жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Thank you.
@davidmiller45946 ай бұрын
*AWESOME Tutorial Stump!*
@Sawblade023 жыл бұрын
Nice, I've been on the fence with getting those bits for a couple of years.
@JT_703 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those bits and some nylon set-up blocks a number of years ago but have never tried using them. Had great plans but never got back to them.
@richardkunicki56843 жыл бұрын
I have one of these cutters and have never used it because I have been unsuccessful setting up. I will try again. Thanks
@allthegear-noidea12643 жыл бұрын
It’s like you know what I’m working on and struggling with! Thanks so much!
@cobberpete13 жыл бұрын
I gave up on the lock miter bit years ago. Had so much trouble with them. Maybe I should try again
@tiemann511 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@vincentpotter57212 жыл бұрын
I love your workshop I’m thinking of getting one of those router tables
@dominicdiclemente88773 жыл бұрын
Great timing, I am about to order my lock miter bit
@markmurdocca24562 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Excellent, well explained, detailed explanation of how to set up these bits. I'm using these bits for the first time and am going crazy with "trial and error" to get the fit right. Your intelligent explanation has set me straight. FYI, for this type of bit, good idea recommending Whiteside or other top-of-the-line. I got a cheap set of multi sizes and it makes a mess with hardwood.
@DanHoke3 жыл бұрын
You feeling ok? I hope so. Love your work. Stay strong.
@StumpyNubs3 жыл бұрын
My voice sounds a little raspy whenever we film early in the morning :)
@Kris-82 Жыл бұрын
Love your tips with router
@olddawgdreaming57153 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with James! Great information. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋
@brianbelliveau55512 жыл бұрын
Good job I don’t have a bit yet but. I want to get one thanks for the update
@MMWoodworking3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, whiteside bits ARE awesome. If you are someone who just got a router and started out with one of those lower priced ($40-$75+) variety sets, I highly suggest replacing the ones you actually use with Whiteside bits one at a time. You probably won't find that you use a lot of them if you are a hobbyist, so you don't need to go replace them all at once. But as you use some of them more and more, spend the extra bit - no pun intended, well, some intention - to get a Whiteside replacement. I was doing a lot of box joints with my cheapo 1/4 straight bit, and I finally upgraded to a spiral upcut bit (RU-4700 iirc), and it was a night and day difference.
@stevesivell32242 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tutorial
@codigitty91953 жыл бұрын
Wow. I just got one of these and was planning on setting it up today. Amazing timing on the video!
@bassoonman15629 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining and the demo
@ELCADAROSA3 жыл бұрын
I’m about as “amateur” as an amateur woodworker can be, and I’ve used the smaller Whiteside locking bit a few times in over the years. I have to agree, it isn’t difficult to get setup and works consistently time and again.
@richardsorge-3 жыл бұрын
Very useful tip. Also Bill Hylton in his " woodworking with the router " book gives a good method for adjusting this tricky bit;
@matthewson10003 жыл бұрын
Thanks STUMPS!
@drewmobley39243 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome videos, it is clear you really take your time and have great pride in them.
@tobiasruth33974 ай бұрын
Love your tips and advice. I just got a set of locking miter router bits. They work great if you're following the grain. But not so well when you need to cut endgrain. How can this be done better?
@redrockcrf46633 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@jamescole17863 жыл бұрын
Excellent info on set-up of lock miter router bit. Oh, that's a mighty fine looking router table you are using! How about a little 'show & tell' on that...& previous router table?👨🔧 Thanks!
@bahlowme Жыл бұрын
Great video and your right I'm scared to try this but feel like I can now. New follower.
@daveweigle40903 жыл бұрын
I agree set up blocks are a waste of money. I love lock miters and always use up a lot of scrap setting them up. This makes it so much easier. Thanks.
@geraldlalonde5992 Жыл бұрын
Very Helpful
@MCsCreations3 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting indeed, dude! 😃 Thanks a lot for all the tips! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@jeffmason398 Жыл бұрын
Thank you James. I want to us some wenge to make a box. I like miter joints with splines, but in this case i just want to see wenge all around. However wenge is very oily and i suspect that it won't glue up very well. What to do? Then i remembered your vid. Well, i'm off to another technique. (Note to all: i've seen lots of vids on wenge dust being toxic and recommending a respirator. Splinters are bad too - very bad.)
@haskelloness3793 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a informative show
@warrensmith29023 жыл бұрын
What a great idea.
@douglasbrown34932 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thanks.
@benblackwell442 жыл бұрын
Well done presentation. I got acceptable test results on the 3rd try using MDF scraps. If I were making columns where the routing is done in the long grain direction, I would be ready to go. Personally I am more interested in building drawer boxes which will require end grain routing, at least with real wood. I think holding the drawer side stock for end grain routing will be more difficult than the setup process.
@monteporche5552 Жыл бұрын
What I do is I take a large blank and make the cut for the drawer ends, then I cut the blank down to the height of the drawer sides. I find its a little easier to work with a larger piece.