Why Olympic Venues Are So Hard To Reuse…

[@SeanA099]

I like what LA is doing where they’ll be using a lot of temporary or existing venues

[@stuartm6069]

The same with Paris. Paris did not build a huge stadium for the opening ceremonies, instead they went with a small temporary structure under the Eiffel tower. Also many of the venues are all built to be temporary or are locations that have other purposes.

[@ChadSimplicio]

I discussed this alot with other people on YT. All L.A. just has to do is revamp their infrastructure, their transportation, and build a new Olympic Village.

[@SeanA099]

@@ChadSimplicio they don’t even need a new village. I’m pretty sure they’re just using student housing at UCLA

[@jerkytoo8184]

Yes, I believe in 1984 they used UCLA student housing as the Olympic Village.

[@jerkytoo8184]

LA will have used the same stadium for 3 Olympics by 2028.

[@josephdhippolito5456]

As someone who has lived in metropolitan Los Angeles for his entire life, I can tell you that USC football, and UCLA football used to draw capacity crowds to the Coliseum. That doesn’t happen anymore because tickets have become prohibitively expensive for the average fan, and because neither USC nor UCLA football have quite the cachet that they used to even 20 years ago. Regarding Olympic facilities, I think the best solution would be to build temporary facilities for the minor sports, where possible. These can be dismantled afterward so they don’t remain eyesores.

[@marcusianaviation9372]

It's a shame how everything in the US has gotten so so expensive

[@tubby_1278]

That's what they're gonna do for LA 2028. UCLA - Olympic Village and other smaller events (table tennis etc) SoFi Stadium - Opening ceremony and swimming & other water sports I think LA Memorial Colliseum - Track & field + closing ceremony The Forum - Gymnastics Peacock Theater - Wrestling/Judo etc Long Beach - other water sports like rowing etc Santa Monica - Beach volleyball BMO - Soccer Good luck to Angelenos

[@rdh11201]

Atlanta seemed to get it right in '96 by building a main Olympic venue that could be adapted (and shrunk) to be the new Braves baseball stadium--which they sorely needed to update Fulton Co. The Braves were there for around 20 years--maybe not the ~30-plus years of life you'd ideally like to see in a major venue but still a great run for an adaptive re-use. I think the Braves moved also in part due to location issues although the venue was probably showing its age. Still a rare practical solution to a big wasteful problem. Would love to see a video dedicated to successful adaptive re-uses. Thanks!

[@alonzobrickman7418]

Correct and Atlanta caught a lot of grief from the IOC for being reasonable about spending. Olympic stadium was rechristened as Turner Field and used by the Braves until the team relocated in 2017. Then the stadium was transferred to GSU for use as (albeit wonky) football stadium. The abandoned field hockey stadium existed prior to the Olympics as Herndon Stadium and was used to host football for Morris Brown University. MBU dropped football in 2003 so now the stadium is abandoned (except for use in movies). Really, the only permanent purpose-build facility that was abandoned and eventually demolished is the tennis center at Stone Mountain.

[@realalbertan]

The pool at Georgia Tech has been a huge success. It was built open air with a roof with huge temp seats on one side. It was fully enclosed a few years later and hosts high level meets like the NCAAs

[@popeekai.m6368]

Atlanta really benefited from hosting the olympics

[@alonzobrickman7418]

@@popeekai.m6368 Absolutely, the only real downside is that when the Olympics ended the increased traffic never went away.

[@insertnamehere5809]

Sydney 2000 never had this problem, because they're still being used 24 years later

[@bunthoeunhas549]

Best ever!!!

[@_peepyopee]

100% All the infrastructure is still going strong 💪

[@epurser867]

The field hockey stadium (Herndon Stadium) in Atlanta was around before the Olympics and continued to be used until Morris Brown College had financial issues. It opened in 1948. Of the stadiums built for The Olympics, the only one to my knowledge that did not have much of a life before or after was the tennis stadium at Stone Mountain.

[@dccavalier]

Thanks for making that point about the stadium at Morris Brown College. The stadium was used several years after the Olympics and Morris Brown. actually applied to go D1 in the MEAC. Unfortunately, the school had an accreditation problems and eventually closed. If not, the stadium would still be in use today.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Clark Atlanta University says they'll fix the stadium...... Eventually.

[@DaveTexas]

Yeah, it’s like hosting a World’s Fair. You have to invest SO MUCH to build the infrastructure, the transportation, the venues, and related housing/hotels in order to have a chance at profitability…and then it’s over and you’ve got a bunch of stuff that will never be used again. That leaves you with two real options: build everything cheaply for the purpose of having it be temporary, or build everything in a way that can be used into the future. The latter only works, however, under very limited circumstances. If a city is in need of, say, a major new football stadium, hosting an Olympic Games would be a great reason to build one. Building the Olympics "village" attached to a major university campus could allow for new venues for all the various college sports programs. But otherwise, it just doesn’t make sense to build a dozen major sports venues in one area that will see only two weeks’ worth of use. I’d hate to see the Olympic Games come to an end, though. The solution I see is for the IOC to work with a select number of cities around the world and then help to build permanent venues in those cities. These would be cities that already have excellent public transportation options and plenty of airport and hotel capacity for visitors. For example, pick four cities for each set of games (summer and winter). Pick one city in North America, one city in Europe, one city in Asia, and one city in South America. Build all the facilities necessary for the games - and for use by other sporting teams/events. The IOC would help with the costs of building and maintaining the facilities. Then just have the games rotate through each of the four cities. Maybe only two or three cities would be feasible. Maybe holding the games twice as often would make more financial sense, so it becomes a better money-generating event to the host cities. The selection of a new city for the games every four years isn’t working, though, so that model needs to change.

[@dindog22]

LA 1984 they didn't build anything new. the Coliseum was already there and everything else was pretty much done at UCLA facilities

[@DerKruser]

The velodrome in Carson was new - and remained in use until it was torn down in 2000 (ish) and replaced with an indoor velodrome on a different part of the CSUDH campus

[@kentfrederick8929]

If I recall correctly, the swimming venue in Atlanta became the pool for Georgia Tech. Olympic Stadium in Atlanta was built to be reconfigured for baseball. After the Braves left for Cobb County, Turner Field became the football field for Georgia State.

[@geowilliams8915]

For the most part, Atlanta DID reuse their facilities, as they were designed with reuse in mind. 28 years later, their Olympic stadium is now Georgia State University's football field, after 20 plus years as Turner Field. The Olympic Village is now dorm space for GSU and Georgia Tech. The Aquatics center now belongs to GT. And Atlanta remains one of the few host cities to actually make a small profit from their Games.

[@bluerisk]

Munich build next to everything from scratch but had also a firm idea how the area will be used afterwards and is a full success story.

[@MatthiaGryffine]

It's such a shame that this situation always happens

[@panam4redd]

at least steps are being taken in the right direction, this shouldn't be a problem in 2028 considering LA isn't exactly the most spacious city already lol

[@awill891]

LA 2028 is gonna be cool! Sofi Stadium will host 8 World Cup games in 2026, the Super Bowl in 2027 and The Olympics in 2028 that's an insane run of events back to back to back.

[@normanwhite6677]

Here in Atlanta the Olympic stadium became Turner Field. Grant Field (Georgia Tech) and Sanford Stadium (UGA) were used for soccer. The Georgia Dome was replaced by Mercedes Benz Stadium. The one that puzzles me is the tennis venue. It was a solid facility and Atlanta has one of the largest collection of amateur tennis players in the U.S., yet they never used the facility.

[@nicegan8902]

The solution is for the world to adopt Australian football and cricket! Simply remove the running track. This is probably why the Melbourne Cricket Ground in Australia is probably the most successful former Olympic stadium in the world. It was already over 100 years old when it hosted the Olympics in 1956 and its been used pretty much every weekend since.

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

I’ve come to understand that a lot of the most successful Olympic cities used already existing venues.

[@trickygoose2]

I think LA in 2028 will be the 4th Games in a row to not build a new main stadium from scratch.

[@derekmarshall6332]

London probably being the exception, pretty much everything was new and still used.

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

@@derekmarshall6332 yeah, didn’t they upgrade Wembley?

[@derekmarshall6332]

@@aidanwotherspoon905 No, they built a whole new stadium for the Olympics, now home to West Han United. Wembley was rebuilt about 25 years ago for football and other events

[@basprad1563]

After the 1996 Olympics the Track and Field stadium was reused for the Atlanta Braves Baseball, which I thought was a great idea. Too bad the stadium for field hockey just sits rotting away. I know the velodrome and the tennis venues are both gone at Stone Mountain Park, sad.

[@henryca03]

The velodrome and archery venues were only intended to be temporary. The tennis center was supposed to be permanent.

[@ignaciofuentes2642]

The Olympics should rotate between the handful of countries that can really afford it and have existing venues. Like America, France, China etc.

[@alexhajnal107]

They could always just make the venues smaller. Another thing that would help is restricting new construction to cases where there are absolutely no existing alternatives that could be adapted.

[@flamingfrancis]

The timing of this article is apparently driven by what we are seeing in Paris at the moment where existing infrastructure and attractions are being used for the various sports. To my knowledge the French have built only the 400million Euros swimming complex for the event.We are also seeing a few vastly outlying places being used for some other sports...Tahiti, Nice, Marseille and Lille for example. The 2032 Brisbane Olympics should take note and consider using the Brisbane River in a similar light to what the Seine is being used.

[@rwboa22]

When Philadelphia tried to bid for the Olympics, the intent was that we would have used as many existing venues as possible, at the same time, construct an Olympic Village that would have been easily converted to low-income housing units. The only reason that Philadelphia was rejected was the transportation infrastructure (we lack an extensive underground subway network), plus the lack of capital. Also, most of the suburbs would have been affected as those that commute into the city usually do so riding the SEPTA Regional Rail system (a holdover of the commuter rail services operated by the Pennsylvania Railroad/Penn Central and Reading Railroads until 1976, when Conrail took over operations between 1976 and 1983); which for the Olympics, would have seen a major change in operations along the lines of Pope Francis' visit to Philadelphia back in 2015.

[@DuffyGabi]

The swimming pool is temporary and simply sits on top of the permanent floor. The venue will return to hosting concerts as it already did for Taylor Swift.

[@PjRjHj]

The Melbourne Cricket Ground is by far the most successful Olympic Stadium as most Australian states can justify oval stadium of appropriate capacity to host Athletics because of the simular dimensions required for Australian Football and Cricket. Accor Stadium (Stadium Australia) hasnt been quite as successful as the MCG, but is far from a white elephant. Sydney resides in a Rugby League leaning state and is also known for having Australia's most fickle sporting fans. Yet i'd put its issue down to its specific design and less sophisticated post games conversion compared to City of Manchester Stadium or the movable seating of Stade de France. Unfortunately Brisbane's proposed main stadium has become highly politicised. It reeks of back room discussion between Queensland politicians and powerful Rugby League figures who'd happily see Brisbane left with a $1.6 billion 14000 seat (legacy mode) bare bones athletics stadium white elephant in nondescript suburbia, as long as public funding is directed to their rectangular stadium (which can't host athletics) and away from their direct winter competitor Australian Football. Regardless of the Gabba needing replacing in 2030's

[@Marylandbrony]

@@PjRjHj Personally if Brisbane is forced to cancel the games due to a lack of stadium. Melbourne or Sydney should get it.

[@flamingfrancis]

The MCG cannot be compared to, say, Sydney's Stadium Australia for the Olympics. The former was in use as a stadium for decades before the 56 Olympics and has atracted huge crowds both before and after those Games. Renovations have continued in that time. Sydney's was purpose built on a former abbatoirs and brick manufacturing site. While the format is now rectangular it originally housed the Olympics / Paralympics athletics track and some AFL oval format games after the Games. Many other venues such as the Blacktown Olympic Park have grown since 2000.

[@robertparry4929]

Perhaps follow the lead set by Melbourne and adopted by Sydney. Have regular sport at the venues. Make them tourist attractions. Get great return in investment

[@michaelcobbin]

Melbourne and Sydney Olympic stadiums are used regularly for all major rock concerts as well. Both stadiums have a great public transport. Most importantly, in Australia, no sport team can just build a stadium. Either the state or local governments own the stadium and the sport team becomes a tenant or co-tenants of the stadium. For both Olympic stadiums in Australia, there are multiple sport teams that co-tenants of the stadium and they tend to get the priority funding for upgrades.

[@davinp]

You make a good point, unlike Football and Baseball, other Olympic sports aren't played regularly and won't attract a huge crowd

[@chenlee9835]

If LA follows the 1984 Summer Olympic plans, they'll be okay.

[@rwboa22]

That's what the 2028 Games would be: reuse of much of the 1984 venues in addition to using SoFi Stadium for soccer.

[@keriezy]

USC Football draws +75,000 per game. 🙄

[@risinbison1106]

I was in Beijing a couple years after the Olympics. The “birdcage” stadium looked like hell and was falling apart. The aquatics venue was falling into disrepair but has since been repurposed.

[@csnide6702]

Total BS..... if you build a quality PRACTICAL stadium it will be used for a long time. The LA Coliseum and Olympic Stadium in Montreal are two examples...........

[@_peepyopee]

The Real success story is the Sydney Olympics All infrastructure built for the games are still in use today Athletes village is now private residential Stadium Australia is the main stadium for the state of NSW

[@joenintendo]

You said it, I feel like if cities planned well enough, they could make most, if not all, of their sites built specifically for the Olympics into useful venues afterwards.

[@anthonytippett5997]

From now on the Olympics needs to be in the city where everything they build for the event can be used for something later. I suggest they be refitted for college uses

[@g_men2121]

If theres a way to build a basic stadium but have the option to build a temporary addition for the Olympics, then remove the addition after, hopefully at minimum costs. If this doesn't seem possible, theres gotta be a better way we can reduce the amount of abandoned buildings post Olympics.

[@rich7787]

I think the best option would be to select a summer Olympic site and winter Olympic site and just always let them host the games. This way, money spent on stadiums wouldn’t only have one Olympic games to pay the stadiums off from. A small rotation of a few sites for each game would also work and I actually favor this, but I don’t think it’s efficient compared to one site always hosting the summer Olympics and one site always hosting the Winter Olympics

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

original Olympics only was for one city. These IOC French guys are the ones running a 100+ year long grift here. Pretty much.

[@papajohncena2516]

That city better be Athens and not Los Angeles

[@SnowmanTF2]

@@papajohncena2516 Athens was one of the worst host cities on sustaining their venues, with like half rotting in a couple years. Larger cities like London, Paris, LA are much more likely to be able to sustain the venues outside of Olympic events, plus have travel infrastructure scaled to handle the games easily (with the European cities clearly better on public transport over LA).

[@johnepants]

I like the idea of a few cities in each main region hosting. Tokyo should probably get another crack at the summer games after Brisbane, LA never got rid of the track at the coliseum so that makes it a very attractive city to host in the US. Paris and London work. It won’t be hosted in South America or Africa anytime soon

[@dannydaw59]

The Olympic venues still have to be maintained between Olympics. Who pays for that?

[@ianb4801]

The trick is to only approach taking on an Olympic Games if your community already has need for the facilities to be built and has suitably sized stadiums in the first place. In Australia, major sports (Australian Rules Football and Cricket) use playing fields far bigger than an athletics track so you build a new track inside and existing stadium then simply remove the track later. Other sports, such as hockey, are so popular in Australia that a new, elite level field, with temporary extra grandstands, will never go to waste. So if your country's core sporting interest don't mesh well, then just don't host an Olympic Games.

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I live in Utah and almost every single one of the venues from the 2002 Olympics are still being used.

[@antonimartins3473]

Great work on the video ! you should do more olimpic white elephants

[@davinp]

Many cities have abandoned their Olympic venues after the Olympics are over. They spent allot of money to build them only to abandon them. This is a reason cities don't want to bid to host the Olympics. The International Olympic Committee has stopped taking bids from cities.

[@DaveTexas]

"Allot" doesn’t mean what you think it means. Allot - to divide or distribute by share or portion; distribute or parcel out; apportion.

[@sammagictv]

Most cities use temporary venues now. I would’ve liked to see you discuss this. More thorough research would’ve made this video better.

[@jasonkoch3182]

They shouldn't stop having the Olympics. But they need to have it at a permanent site, where you can have all the facilities you need and instead of paying to build brand new everything every four years, you spend significantly less money by maintaining purpose-built stadiums that have everything you need and can be refurbished instead of rebuilt.

[@bluegold1026]

Disagree. Not only would that be advantageous to athletes who live near the host city, as they wouldn't have to deal with things like jet lag, but who would be responsible for the maintenance of the venues? Can they even be trusted? Do they even want the responsibility to begin with?

[@pauljackson8307]

Every country should have a dedicated Olympics stadium, somewhere within their country, to represent their country.

[@nicolamarchbank1846]

What about a host country rather than a host city? Hold the opening a few days before events take place so everyone can get together in a single space and then spread the rest of the events around the country into areas with specialist areas so it's not going to inflate the cost. A shared bid with a neighbouring country like they do in football would help. The Dutch, Belgians and Luxembourgers could share an Olympics, the Dutch are good cyclists and field hockey players and have the facilities already, they have the event space for gymnastics. Amsterdam is a great city for an opening ceremony. Luxembourg could do stuff like archery, shooting, mountain biking, cycle time trials, the marathon through Luxembourg City etc, outdoorsy and low cost events. Belgium gets it's share. Voila! Poland and the Baltic States are another example, a marathon through Tallinn would be cool.

[@gieselats]

LA in 1984 made a profit. They had the most places. So we are looking forward to 2028. St. monica bld., se love it. We love it. We love LA.

[@realthrills5448]

I feel the Olympics should move to Athens permanently. Have the Olympic committee maintain the arenas.

[@1lyxbollyvykn714]

Temporary structures are the future, since not all sports are popular in all countries, even developing countries would be able to host games with temporary venues, a great example is stadium 974 of qatar which was made with containers.

[@dorothysewing9997]

I would say perhaps many of the venues could be used by the local universities in the area. Many of them compete in sports like soccer, athletics, and swimming. Why not let them utilize these facilities once the games are over? The old Turner Field is now being used by a college in Atlanta for football. So I think it might be worth considering.

[@terminateshere]

London did OK. Stadium is in use for football and occasionally other sports, pool is a public swimming baths which doubles up as a training facility and we need a velodrome and rowing lake anyway because those are some of our best sports. Others were dismantled and moved elsewhere for other events (i.e. Commonwealth games).

[@johncassani6780]

During the very short period of time that Boston was the US bid city for the 2024 Olympics, the proposal was to build a temporary Olympic stadium. It doesn’t make sense anywhere in the US to build a 70k-80k seat stadium for track and field, which is, if it’s possible, less popular than the pre-Caitlyn Clark WNBA. There’s really no way to turn a track venue into a desirable NFL stadium, and I can’t even imagine that a Turner Field type conversion would be possible. I think LA is, permanently, the only US city capable of hosting the summer Olympics. For that matter, Salt Lake City is the only one for the Winter Games. And it’s not much different for the rest of the world.

[@realalbertan]

Swimming has been using modular pools in existing stadiums or arenas. Rio and Paris are 2 Olympic examples. US Trials were in Lucaz Oil stadium. Worlds have been in arenas or soccer stadiums

[@Keepontruckin1904]

Thanks for the video. I was thinking about hosting the Olympics in my hometown of Tustin California but it sounds like it would be a waste of money for me. Perhaps I’ll try to bring the superbowl here instead

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

There's only 3 sports that easily take up the room of a converted track stadium when the track is removed. Canadian football, Australian football & cricket.

[@SnowmanTF2]

Settling on a small pool of cities might be more viable, so at least get a few uses out of them. Like one for US, one for Europe, and one for Asia. Plausibly increase frequency like every 2 or 3 years so hit all regions in a decade or less, could still be a somewhat rare event, plus could help raise awareness of athletes if increases how often watched.

[@johnepants]

For the US, the biggest money pits are a big stadium and the cost of an Olympic village. LA works because they don’t have to build anything other than the village, similar to Paris. Other cities in the US can host them if they need to update some sports infrastructure, but everything else, especially the smaller ticket items, should be in temporary locations or places they are able to fit it. You don’t need massive stadiums for things like fencing and judo

[@tylerpuszczewicz2535]

That also depends on what city and country is hosting it. Greece wasn't financially stable to begin with and Brazil is like Russia, a 2nd world country.

[@AntonioOliveira-tx2or]

Regarding Brazil, your comment is deeply misunderstood about the country, since we are talking about the 8th largest economy in the world. Rio, unlike Sochi or Athens, is one of the 20 most populous cities on the planet (it is more populous than Los Angeles, for example) and the facilities were designed with nomadic architecture concepts and for different uses. It was true that it took a while to make the conversions after the games, but today almost everything is in use and very well maintained. Ultimately, we can think of it as a positive example in the end.

[@KanishQQuotes]

Commonwealth games stadium in Delhi are used for regular sports events and running sports academies The event despite all the scandals, it reignited passion towards other sports in India Being in the capital of the country has its advantages that some or the other events are being used

[@CharlesBrown-dd8vz]

Seems like two options would be to either build a permanent home for the Olympics or to tailor Olympic sports to fit existing stadiums. Given how television coverage dominates how the games are presented, it doesn't seem like you'd need high capacity stadiums anymore.

[@MrRicklynch57]

To help ease with a lot of these costs they can also do larger regions. No spectator is going to every event. Instead of a LA Olympics you have a California Olympics. You have the opening ceremonies at the Coliseum and the closing ceremonies overlooking the Golden Gate Bridge. You help ease congestion, San Francisco, San Jose, LA, and San Diego all have plenty of hotels and venues as well as beaches and coastline. San Francisco has more internationally recognizable monuments for a backdrop. This year they could’ve made a Mediterranean Olympics.

[@leonb2637]

You mean like with the next Football World Cup match sites spread with the USA, Canada and Mexico hosting (and the final just outside of NY City in an existing outdoor stadium.

[@mdoerty13]

While some of the examples used here are not good, the basic premise is correct. The problem is the specialized use. That is why he Olympics are going to places that already had almost all the facilities in place in Paris and LA.

[@bluegold1026]

Cities need to demand more from the IOC, not the other way around. Some sports, especially those that require uniquely built venues, should be dropped or be relegated to "optional" status. FISU and their World University Games (the second largest international sporting event behind the Olympics) do this and they don't suffer the same problems. But the biggest thing the Olympics can do IMO is utilize existing and temporary facilities as much as possible. Paris '24 and LA '28 are doing this and I think it will really help them out in the long run.

[@devonboulden2496]

You're nice and relaxed when you talk to the camera. This just wasn't very well researched. Olympic venues? Track & field, beach volleyball,. swimming, diving, kayak, crew, street or skatepark, equestrian, bmx courses. Judo, tennis, trampoline, pingpong, badmitten. Then there are all the stadiums required for the football matches. Then there's there's the winter bobsled. The tracks are enormously expensive to build and maintain. Only a few people can use them. There are luge tracks in the world where you can't run bobsleds. The US didn't even bother to build a bobsled track for the 1960 Lake Tahoe olympics. I love bobsled. Salt Lake City did the winter Olympics right. They had venues in several different cities in the same geographic area. The venues weren't ultra concentrated in one single city except for the down hill and outdoor venues which were all concentrated around the Park City area. A spread-out Olympics is a better way to go. That way you don't concentrate all the venues in one city. Construction, maintenance and destruction isn't the burden of a single city. Plus you can spread out the behemoth that is the media during the Olympics. Hotel accommodations get spread out amongst cities too. If you can spit-up venues, I think the Denver area would be a great place for the Winter Olympics. Indoor venues can be split up from Fort Collins down to Colorado Springs. There are several world class resorts that can handle downhill events. You would need to build an enormously expensive bobsled track but the US could use a 3rd. Also bobsled tracks age quickly. Sections of track age and settle over time. Maintaining an old refrigerated track can get harder and harder not to mention it's really expensive. It would, however, set up an unfair advantage in the US. The US Olympic team is anchored in Colorado Springs. Though there is one thing that would be the coolest of the cool--put the bobsled track on Pikes Peak. Build a station on the Pikes Peak cog line. The cog line can only go up so far in the winter. This would be amazing.

[@markhyland5682]

It would be interesting to see what happens to the Olympic villages after the games are over.

[@ckap7276]

Might be best to see if one host city would be the permanent location every four years. Things have definitely changed. When the 2004 games were awarded to Athens there there were 8 cities bidding. For the 2016 games in Rio there were 4. For the 2024 games only Paris and LA put in bids IOC just awarded 2024 and 2028 at the same time fearful there would be no bidders. Salt Lake just got the 2034 winter games as the only city to bid. It really does not make economical sense. Paris spent over 1.5 billion just to clean the river Seine plus billions more for everything else.

[@rwboa22]

I would stay continental and rotate around different cities that hosted prior Olympic Games. For example, the Summer Games hosted in the Americas should always be in LA or Rio de Janero (although the venues can be spread out to other cities) whereas the Winter Games in North America can be divided between Salt Lake City and Vancouver, BC. When Europe hosts Summer Games, the city can be either in London, Paris, and either Berlin, Munich, or Rome; Winter Games should always be in Switzerland (but spread out to France, Germany, and Italy), and for Asia and Australia, the Summer Games be rotated between Tokyo and Sydney, while the Winter Games be limited to either Sapporo or Nagano (both in Japan).

[@runwillrobinson]

Not hosting the Olympics seems like it will be the choice of many cities, especially after the foolishness displayed at this year's opening ceremonies.

[@UQRXD]

Put the homeless in them.

[@Roseywolf43]

In the world games. Well Birmingham had places that were there before the games. That was just an example.

[@hellman9655]

The Olympics should pick a permanent venue like Norway or Switzerland and have everyone chip in.

[@bigearl1624]

But then the government of the host nation couldn't waste millions of dollars and "create jobs"

[@scherzva]

Los Angeles can do it once every 12-16 years

[@steelfabric]

Maybe they need a set of cities this have recently hosted an Olympics and still have all their infrastructure maintained and in use, then use these cities as a circuit where the Olympics are cycled amongst them. If it's hard to entice new cities to host an Olympics, just use the recent cities that still have the capacity and ability to put on an event. Failing that, just pick one city and host all the Olympics there, forever more.

[@bigkahunaburger5185]

Rotate the Olympics between 4 or 5 cities that already have venues built. The tricky part would be the Olympic Village. I’m not sure where all of the athletes would stay each time.

[@reedermh]

Most large cities have universities with student housing. The Olympics are usually held when university is not in session. Those facilities can be used to house the athletes. The LA area has UCLA and USC, along with a lot of smaller colleges. The athletes competing at off-site locations can stay in housing close to their venues; there is no need to have one big facility.

[@scottkimball7830]

Need to do better research, Atlanta did use a lot of temporary venues. I was surprised you referenced one that was not reused, that is the exception for the Atlanta venues.

[@rebchi]

I think here in Atlanta, the whole Turner Field thing kinda worked out (for the Braves anyway.) I think GA Tech now has Turner Field which is pretty nice for a college.

[@papajohncena2516]

Georgia state owns Turner field. It worked out pretty well overall. Be act like it was ultimately a waste, but it was more the Braves’ fault than anything, and it’s still being used.

[@raytaylor6412]

Georgia State is using Turner Field for its football team. From the views I have seen,some of the seating has a "temporary pernament" layout.

[@henryca03]

Georgia Tech got the former Olympic Village, which serves as student housing, and the Aquatics Center was transformed into the Campus Recreation Center.

[@FigureFarter]

@@henryca03They're building a baseball field on the parking lot where the FCS (Fulton County Stadium) stood

[@great-one0389]

Well is there any way to remove the upper deck at turner field?

[@myronlarimer1943]

The Olympics need to identify two permanent venues for the games. A winter venue and a summer venue. The IOC and the participating nations could all share in the costs of developing and maintaining the facilities. Regional and other international competitions and events could use the facilities, as appropriate, between the Olympics. Innsbrook, Austria and Athens, Greece would be great homes for the games. Time to be realistic about the ridiculous expense and chest thumping that goes on for the hosting nations and cities.

[@courtneypuzzo2502]

not true Pauley Pavilion has existed since 1965 and will be used for Gymnastics again in 2028 as it was in 1984 when Mary Lou Retton won 1 Gold 2 Silver and 2 Bronze medals in Women's Gymnastics team All around and Vault Silver Floor ex and uneven bars Bronze and individual all around gold in the three individual events she medaled in her average score was 9.91 or Shannon Miller's average score in Barcelona on the 3 events she medaled in Floor Bars and Beam was 9.93

[@danjones2164]

I think it might be advantageous to decrease the number of events that require specific designed venues.

[@BELCAN57]

There should be permanent Summer and Winter locations for the Olympics.

[@stuartm6069]

I would agree, but I suggest they should rotate to 4 different cities. For winter games 2 cities in North America (1 US and 1 Canada) 1 Europe and 1 Asia (probably Japan). For Summer 1 North America, 1 Europe, 1 Asia and 1 Australia. This way the games would return to a location every 16 years. not long enough for things to become too outdated and the updating costs would be minimal.

[@webcelt]

That might still be asking some city to build expensive facilities that would get used for two weeks every four years. I don't see an alternative to building facilities that are multi-use and not ideal for most sports. Maybe build for some sport popular in the host city, and other sports just have to adapt to the playing surface.

[@trickygoose2]

If you did this the rest of the world via the IOC should help pay for building the venues.

[@anthonykennedy5324]

The notion of a permanent venue divorced from local politics may be an optimal solution. I'm from Brisbane and I am not confident that the right decisions will be made for the proposed 2032 staging of the Olympic games.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

how dare you, according to the IOC these things are treasures and give a great positives to these cities. I don't understand how myself, but IOC propaganda!!!

[@SiTengoTiempo]

Really good explanations on why the Olympic venues become albatrosses on cities and the taxpayers who are saddled with the debt. The Olympics are not worth that kind of wastage of resources and it’s good what Paris has done by building little and instead doing makeshift arenas. The Olympics should just disappear altogether.

[@Samtheman85844]

It's we cannot reuse past Olympic Venues.

[@minecat1839]

What happened to the old video about Lodi Station Outlets? I was looking for it and I seems to have been deleted. The mall is barley surving now and your prediction has come true. I would like to see the video again and I hope it is not lost media like the mall. I an headed there on Saturday

[@minecat1839]

Same Browns jacket and comic sans I remeber from 5 years ago

[@robvegas9354]

The MCG is the way to go.

[@leonb2637]

I have long believed the Olympics (in particular the Summer ones), need to have fewer events and participants. A number of events are included as more popular in some key countries but non-existent in others but 'have' to be kept due to international politics or out of 'tradition'. I would get rid of for example boxing as that has declined in popularity due to the physical risks and decline to other forms of fighting disciplines. Some specific international sports regulators have put in rules to limit participation in their own events and for the Olympics to only the 'best', not allowing participating by woefully unqualified persons and reducing the numbers of participates. For the USA, and unlike most other countries, the extensive sports programs of Universities offer facilities that be used by them after their holding the Olympics.

[@DavidLimofLimReport]

Maybe Brisbane is onto something lol.. but there is a fine line though between being cheap and looking good.

[@HenryGoodhue]

The Olympics 'jumped the shark' with Break Dancing as a sport. Too much cost, too much risk for any city. Not enough return- money or prestige. The Olympic Committee should name a single city that permanently hosts Track and Field and Ceremonies. All other event types get parceled out among interested cities/nations. That way, infrastructure matches local interest every time. What countries have world class velodromes, for example? London has 'the Pringle', apparently one of the fastest tracks around for cycling. According to Wikipedia, 23 countries have more than 5; Japan has the most with 66. The same will be true for all Olympic sports, across all continents. Athletes could be flown in and out for the two ceremonies for the money and carbon footprint expended on new facilities every 4th year. How about a follow up video on likely stadia for say the 10 biggest Olympic (summer) sports?

[@harrymaciolek9629]

The Olympics need to be scaled down.

[@reedermh]

There are a lot of "joke sports" which need to go. Seriously, breakdancing? And skateboarding is more of an X Games event. Equestrian exists only so rich women can participate (never mind the horse does all the work). As far as soccer, the World Cup is the premier event in that sport; with golf, the four major pro championships (Masters, US Open, PGA, and Open) and similar with tennis (Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon, US Open). You know it's bad when they thought of dumping wrestling, only to get three mortal enemies - US, Russia, and Iran - to agree it was a bad idea.

[@reverend_wintondupree]

The IOC grift lives on

[@briannat1086]

Olympics are a total waste of resources. The competition is a joke. Millions starve so i can have a imitation medal?

[@stickynorth]

I am happy to see that the Olympics are now about scaling back... Brisbane's Olympic Stadium will only seat 55,000... And using that metric A LOT of potential host cities now open up while using existing infrastructure including Singapore and Edmonton, which has hosted the Commonwealth Games, The Universiade (University Olympics), Women's World Cup and the ultra exclusive IAAF World Track and Field Games which are generally awarded to just the largest and richest cities that have already held Olympics.. Only a few outlies which at one time hoped for the Olympics... I.e. Edmonton 2008, Seville 2004/2008.. I once had the rough draft of the 2008 Edmonton bid book and it was basically modeled after Barcelona which like Brisbane wasn't going to be a massive spectator games but a smaller, niche one that ended up being wildly successful... Personally Olympics shouldn't ever be bought, they should be earned... Host a couple of mid-tier world events like the ones I described and see how they go. If they are successful, congrats! You get a games or at least shortlisted for one!

[@PjRjHj]

The Queensland state government are now proposing a 40000 (mostly temporary) bare bones stadium in suburbia for the Brisbane Olympics, because the stadium issue has become politicised

[@insertnamehere5809]

The GABBA needs replacing anyway, so why not use that for cricket & AFL instead of using a white elephant in Nathan?

[@alec1115]

Just have a permanent city for the Olympics

[@drormaor8134]

I think just like the United Nations is ALWAYS in America, so too should the Olympics be. The USA is probably the only country that's dotted with huge cities that have many large stadiums available.

[@stuartm6069]

The Untied nations is not only in America. Yes, the General Assembly, Security Council and the World Bank are in New York City, but most of the UN's departments are located in Geneva Switzerland, The Hague Netherlands ( the International Court), Vienna Austria and Nairobi Kenya.

[@BanBanChi]

Off the top of my head, Japan has at least 10 cities with over a million people. The Olympics could be spread all over the country with a much lower impact to individual cities. The UK, China, Australia, Canada, Brazil and several others could also do it because all have cities with large venues available.

[@flamingfrancis]

Time to actually look at a map. Why would the USA "have more larger cities" when two individual nations have almost three times the population of the USA. Both of those nations are sports crazy.

[@drormaor8134]

@@flamingfrancis I think America is obsessed with BIG. Big cities big cars, big stadiums, etc

[@davinp]

Los Angeles will host the 2028 Olympics

[@shackdaddy7106]

That is probably true in every country except the United States. we build better than any other country in the world.

[@anthonyruby2668]

World Cup is the NEW Olympics

[@anthony_rivera4735]

What will Brazil do with their Olympic stadiums?

[@AntonioOliveira-tx2or]

Brazilian and Architect speaking... In general (there are one or two that still have some problems) the sports facilities in Rio are very well maintained and used today (2024). The Olympic stadiums already existed before the games. The Maracanã, home of the opening and closing ceremonies and the football finals, was built for the 1950 World Cup and renovated for the 2014 World Cup. Today it is home to two of the country's major football teams. The athletics stadium was built for the 2007 Pan American Games and is now managed by another major football team in the country. Both have good occupancy rates, in addition to hosting major concerts and a series of other important events, mainly football.

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Just like the World Cup the Olympics are giant grift for a tiny group of politically connected people. It’s so wasteful and every Olympic Games that goes by as less interesting than the one before. I can think of a million more important ways to spend money and “bring the world together”. End the Olympics forever. Nobody will even notice.

[@bryantsteury8910]

Yep. Don't care one iota that it's going on right now, there's zero thats appealing about it. The only upside currently is there's nothing else on aside from MLB so there's some sort of sport on TV while I'm working out all the time now. It's a small step up from "Bob ❤ayeshola" or "young Sheldon" on repeat

[@davidgardner2556]

@@bryantsteury8910What a stupid take.

[@BanBanChi]

Considering that at any point in the day there are almost a billion people watching the Olympics worldwide, I think you are in very small company

[@flamingfrancis]

Spoken like an accountant who has never considered the upside seen by hosting organisations. Consider the cost benefits by having a healthy nation that plays sports knowing they have top class facilities to play in sometimes. Consider the benefits fo merchandising store owners, the accomodation industry, the travel industry, the local restaurants, etc, etc.

[@AbrahamG.99]

End the olympics but keep the world cup? No thanks 😊

[@samanthabianco3612]

They should just have it in Athens every time since they started the Olympics anyway

[@tubby_1278]

I think the Olympics should be held only in one country (Greece) every 4 years

[@Marylandbrony]

I actually think Toronto would be a good host so they can finally get an NFL quality stadium. Sorry CFL's stans Canada isn't in love with your bush league. Other than that i think the Olympics should mainly be in cities with already high quality stadiums or in cities/regions that can be useful.

[@kaydim5921]

NFL isn't coming to Canada

[@paulmezzetta6905]

Considering the WOKENESS of the Olympics and its blasphemy against Christianity, popularity of the Olympic Games could be coming to an end.

[@bigearl1624]

Society is very secular anymore. Of anything, blasphemy is very far down on the list of things that can kill something's popularity.

[@jls0037cslewis1]

Cancel the Olympics. The event used to be a meeting of unique genetic nations competing. Now it is Africans and Lgbtq on every team. Its a meaningless shinanigan.

[@goblues27]

Extreme politics much?

[@Marylandbrony]

@@goblues27 Yeah and this comment section in general.