Why P-Pop Groups Disband | Former K-Pop Trainee and P-Pop Idol, Kheene Salas Spills the Tea 🍵

[@KringKim]

Taas kamay ang mga na-inspire sa journey ni Kheene! There are many reasons why P-Pop groups disband, but former K-Pop trainee and P-Pop idol, Kheene Salas shares why their group, Ver5us, who even won in the P-Pop reality show, Popinoy decided to part ways this year. He also gets candid on his experiences as a trainee in RBW Entertainment in Korea! Ang daming baong kwento ni Kheene so enjoy the ride and let us know in the comments your thoughts~ KRIMMY LIVE streams Monday - Friday, 8PM - 12MN. Join our chikahan and kulitan everynight! If there are other artists, creators, performers, and influencers who want to guest on our show, feel free to DM us! 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗺𝗲: Facebook - facebook.com/kringkim.ph Instagram - instagram.com/kringkim/ Tiktok - @kringkim.ph Email - [e-mail] Spotify podcast: open.spotify.com/show/3Y0eyAnShtkpxXiawDlNCz 𝗝𝗼𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗞𝗿𝗶𝗺𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗶𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗙𝗮𝗰𝗲𝗯𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆! Community chat: m.me/ch/AbaP9_vFCDI8_ubb/ Group (if you cannot join the GC): facebook.com/groups/1292912724721442/?ref=share_group_link #Ppop #OPM #krimmylive

[@lepunksmoothie]

Very entertaining and informative! I used to watch his vlogs when he was training in Korea and sad to learn about Ver5us parting ways. I hope your group will find an agency who can bring out your best potential and manage you well. I think this is one of the problems in PPOP - there are a lot of really talented, even well-trained groups but the managements do not have enough know-how about the the culture of this booming subgenre (I personally do not like the term 'idol'). Time and talents are wasted after debut when the management have no clue as to how to best market the GGs/BGs. You're incredibly talented and eloquent, Kheene! I hope when the right time comes, you and your brothers in Ver5us will come back bigger, better, and stronger! Best of luck!

[@KringKim]

💖💖💖💖💖

[@funtobefunny]

I think the biggest factor talaga kung bakit di mag bloom ang PPOP is dahil sa mga Pilipino din. Parang di pa kasi talaga ready ang madla for this Genre. Yes nakikilala na ang SB19, BINI and other groups pero kulang parin yung support. Mas marami paring Pilipino na mas pinipiling i bash at di suportahan ang PPOP. Andyan parin yung mindset na ginaya lang daw ang PPOP sa KPOP, pag mga male idols parang mga bading daw, ganun, resulting to few amount of people na part of PPOP community. Kakaunti lang nag s'support sa PPOP at syempre di naman lahat ay multi-stan kaya maghahati hati talaga ng fans. Kaya yung iba lalo na ang mga bago, nahihirapan talaga makahakot ng fans. Pag walang fans/supporters ang group, pano sila aangat? Ang bilis din mag cooldown ng hype for PPOP kasi wala rin silang daily or kahit namanlang weekly show/platform for exposure and to showcase their talents. Kaya mahirap din makahakot ng fans kasi nga di naman lagi napag uusapan. Kaya naman talaga ng ating talented idols makipagsabayan pero as of now kulang na kulang talaga sa suporta

[@riaconradt2554]

People don‘t know and realize how much blood, sweat and tears goes into becoming successful as an idol group. It really needs total dedication.

[@LadyBrave-q5m]

What group is blood,sweat and tears?

[@LadyBrave-q5m]

What group is blood, sweat and tears?

[@janedollano9433]

That's life kahit gaano ka kagaling kung hindi pa binigay ng Universe ang kasikatan na inaasam mo wala din,basta just don't give up sa kung ano ang gusto mong gawin,one example of inspiration would be SB19.

[@RomanMurallo]

SB19, G22, Alamat, VXIOn are some of my favorites ❤

[@EldeonROSE]

YES!

[@mikmik8386]

Eyyy!!! This is really a great platform for artists. Very informative and ang daming tea. More power po!!!

[@KringKim]

💖💖💖💖💖

[@tatinnnnn]

Thank you so much po, ms. kring kim and sir jimmy sa pag invite kay kheene. grabe miss na po namin yan at ang ver5us member

[@KringKim]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@lhoreiteodoro8947]

In God's perfect time Kheene. 🫶 Pusooooo ❤️🙏

[@kritzynodiz]

I pray that u still find your spot in ppop if not in group maybe as soloist

[@jcescolastico5299]

I like Kheene's personality!! ❤❤ sana naman kheene ipagpatuloy mo potential!!

[@iamsky_]

I was saddened by the news na nag disband Versus, I'm actually a silent fan ni Kheene po, tho I'm busy sa studies, I was following him on soc med. so I know po ang mga ganap nya noon palang, with the audition sa SM with JP and all huhu sobrang umasa ako non nag wait talaga ko huhu, but yeah..life! and then last year sobrang lapit ng PPOP Fiesta samin sa Lipa Batangas, sobrang saya ko na nameet ko talaga sya, THEY ARE ONE OF THE GROUPS TALAGA NA SOBRANG GALING MAG PERFOM LIVE! Naabutan ko rin po ang Hello K-idol, Top Class at ngayon Dream Maker, kilala ko rin po yong mga idol na sumali sa mga survival shows na yan, na ngayon may kanya kanya ng groups na rin, and yong iba kahit nagka group na, napalipat pa rin or nagkaron rin ng iba pang groups like Yugito na dati nasa PHP with JP ngayon nasa Bilib na, sobrang I root for them kasi 'yong batch talga nila may ibubuga talaga sa dancing lalo na sa singing. But yeah, I'm still rooting for them talga na ma promote sila ng maayos lalo na ngayon na nasa limelight na PPOP huhu I missed you Kheene

[@bubbleteaxiaolu7020]

yan pala yung na mention ni stell of SB19 na may nag mentor sa kanila na sa likod yung technique at effective talaga daw.

[@Msbellalabz]

SO PROUD OF YOU KHEENE LOVE! 🫶🏻😆🤟🏻💛💛💛 KEEP IT UP 💪🏻 YOU DID A GREAT JOB! 💕💋🥰🫰🏻 IM ONE YOUR FAN! STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY MORE PROJECT TO COME 🫴🏻💕

[@KringKim]

MBL iba kaaaaa 😅😂

[@Msbellalabz]

@@KringKim hahaha madaàaààaaaaaam! Nu behhh yerrrn me lng po eto ahaha 🤣 thanks madam!😘😘😘

[@EulerD]

Thank you for this discussion. This is very informative. I miss Ver5us.

[@mariegracecaina7756]

Very talented . Manifesting for the right time and success Kheene ❤

[@KringKim]

✨timing✨

[@IceIceBaby24]

This is so interesting. Earned a Subscribe :)

[@realvnl]

Hala Im so happy mii, meron nang replay ❤

[@zellslzar]

So talented kheene❤ ang bait p s personal🫶

[@rminfinitycal7635]

May manager na b sya? Hehehe sana makuha sya ng 1z entertainment as soloist ganda ng boses nya.

[@春菅原]

Ano yung korean song na kinanta niya sa dulo?

[@jcescolastico5299]

SB19 is the Apex of PPOP! Bini, G22 and Alamat! ❤❤

[@makahiyaahh3746]

Pogi talaga ni kheene nakakainlove ka tsaka your so talented and your the best🥰..cute nya kasi ang daldal😂

[@jcescolastico5299]

cute nga ni kheene at ang humble din❤

[@younghoonston]

Yan kasi ginawa ng tv5 parang yun time na pasibol yun ppop tapos sila nagpasimula ng survival idol show kaso nga kulang sa plano lalo na noon nanalo na yun group. Everything lahat minadali kaya ending kawawa yun mga group.

[@jen8932]

Sayang, hindi nila na-push. Sana nag-push si TV5.

[@younghoonston]

@@jen8932 kaya nga eh, tsaka hilaw pa din talaga masyado yun mismong show at yun maghahandle ng career nila kaya ganyan naging kapalaran nila. Nakakahinayang lang din yun taon na nasayang sa kanila

[@poptv1762]

Hello K-Idol -- too foreign concept PoPinoy -- too masa Dream Maker -- right balance, but final group is not PPop

[@shengalingdork7561]

ang laman nung KOREK madam kring sa 31:19 HAHAHA!

[@KringKim]

👀🍵🤭

[@DarwinRey-v4z]

It surprusing n may mga Filipino KPop idols na rin these days and others are still new trainees in different KPop companies.

[@gianungsod6081]

Thank you so much to Madam Kring and Sir Jimmy for inviting Kheene! manifesting bigger pizza!!!

[@KringKim]

#makethepizzabigger 🍕

[@FanBoyDollArchNew]

kaya need support talaga sa mga PPOP groups, sayang ang VER5US, ang galing pa naman nila

[@jamHK]

Ganda pala ng voice nya!

[@alinocencio1798]

An dami ding ppop groups na parang alanganin na din ang future.. parang naging sarado na kasi ang isip ng mga producers or networks.. dun sila sa patok na at sikat na.. pag boy group sb19.. and now pag girl group, BINI.. the rest parang echapwera na yung ibang groups

[@jcescolastico5299]

di naman G22, Alamat at BGYO are rising.

[@drx8-bno]

panong naging sarado ang isip ng mga network and producers? sa totoo lang nag boboom ngayon ang ppop industry eh. daming ppop group na ngayon ang nakilala.

[@heishijima1764]

Di ko inexpect na mapapastay ako ah😂. Chineck ko lang kasi sana yung about sa kpop topic dito😅

[@KringKim]

Hahahaha nood ka live namin mapapa-stay ka kahit 4 hours 😛

[@jcescolastico5299]

ako din na ka stay ako ❤❤

[@melanieveloso3475]

Ppop is more talented kesa sa Kpop need lng nila ng support at more push...tulad ng Sb19 mdming pinagdaan cl pero hndi cl sumuko hnggat nkmit nila un tgumpay.

[@jcescolastico5299]

Kheene sayang ka please be a soloist nalang o as PPOP idol sayang ee❤

[@fritzde9585]

Sad wla pa ngang mga music shows and comeback shows sa Pinas may P-pop groups na nag didisband.... kawawa tlga mga P-pop groups from small company na walang connections the two major network.

[@KringKim]

there’s more to it than that, unfortunately. remember, ver5us even won in TV5’s Popinoy and still….

[@fritzde9585]

@@KringKim Yeah PH is stock in an old entertainment programming.

[@lolobuto1608]

​@@KringKimnepotism talaga ang malaking hadlang lalo na pag ang company ay sister company ng malaking network katulad ng Cornerstone na under sa Star Music sinasayang lang nila ang talent ng G22 at Vix7on

[@gabrieldominic2381]

⁠@@lolobuto1608ang alam ko Cornerstone is different from Star Music? But still ayun sinasayang ung mga groups na tulad ng G22 at VXON. Mga talented mga yun

[@TDLTDL100]

​​@gabrieldominic2381 Yeah. When has cornerstone become a part of star music? Is that the impression because their veteran solo talents are often guests in ABS-CBN shows? Maybe it's just an arrangement. Because if they're not a corporate part of Star music, G22 and Vix7on are considered competition for ABS-CBN's Bini and Bgyo (whom they've spent a lot of money on training/ building up). ABS-CBN, as a business, still has that 'rival network' mentality. P-Pop Rise is not part of their agenda. It's every man (or company) for himself (or itself).

[@wendysaur8561]

awww kamiss versus

[@kabangerztv_]

Ganda ng pitik ng kamay nya doon tlga ako nakatingin

[@erinpeyton6929]

Bias kita kheene! Pinakagusto ko vocal color mo sa lahat ng Ppop! ❤ Sayang sana nagrelease kayo ng more ver5us vlogs para nagshine pa yung fun/funny personality mo. 😢😢

[@jcescolastico5299]

cute ni kheene! Sana mag PPOP group ulit sya

[@NONAME-dj2gm]

Kaano ano niyo po si Maki? Parang magkapatid po kayo hehe

[@eneri83]

Dahilan ng disband ng P-pop group, 1st is inggitan,kapag meron ng pinakasikat na member, 2nd-walang mga maraming magagaling na Pinoy song writers/composers/producers, walang maraming music shows sa Pinas, walang support ang Gobyerno sa music and entertainment industry, and last but not the least mas tinatangkilik ng Pinoy ang foreign kaysa sa sariling atin.

[@saiyongdawn7756]

Actually, the government had said they would start commiting more to the OPM markrt. I think more support is being offered now than before. PPOP is on the rise thanks to all our groups, but especially the leader of the pack SB19 and BINI, which are making great headway in the OPM market. 🙂

[@KringKim]

Thank you for your comment though I don’t really agree with the points (except maybe the last) 😊 But we discuss this all the time sa livestream namin so sana makanood kayo for more exchange of ideas ✨ M-F 8pm 👍🏼

[@just_ac]

Walang maraming magagaling na pinoy song writers/ composers and producers??? Wrong, Filipinos are some of the best lyricist kung alam mo lang

[@alinocencio1798]

I disagree sa naunang dalawang dahilan mo.

[@jcescolastico5299]

Marami ng Pinoy ang tumatangkilik sa sariling OPM natin isa na ko don. Mas addict na nga ang pinoy dahil sinimulan ng SB19 at BINI!

[@hanakosknife2515]

What if sumali siya sa Dream Maker non😭

[@LuckBuyNiAlvin]

Sayang pede sana sya sa alamat nuon. Kung tinanggap nya pala before.

[@hanakosknife2515]

Ung visual niya di pa pasok standard ng Korea shuta😭 eh nung pinapanood ko ung vlog niya sa audition sa SM eh akala ko malaki chance niya kasi "pasado" na visual niya tas magaling pa kumanta. I think malaki din namn chance niya sa Korea if only hindi beyond the universe ang standard kasi overtime magiimprove naman siya especially kapag naisalang na din siya sa actual stage.

[@heishijima1764]

Yung mga nag audition jan sa universe league kabahan na kau. Visual nito di pa pala pasok sa standard nila pano pa kaya yung iba jan😅

[@yam927]

sayang nman..sana mabalik siya sa grupo..alam ko mas mgagaling tlaga mga PPOP..kaso lng pg sa Korea ka ayaw nila malalmangan..over qualified tlaga mga PPOP mga mggaling..hopefully soon PPOP RISE!!

[@ViewportPlaythrough]

sobrang kulang sa shows and ibang ganap kung san sila "gagamitin" at ilalagay. sa korea, japan and china kasi para ng may sariling industry ang "idol system". we have to remember na nasa culture talaga nung 3 countries na yun yung "idol" culture even way before kpop, jpop or cpop.. if anything pwede ngang tawaging idol ang mga geisha ng japan and equivalents nila sa korea and china. ang pinas wala namang ganun. (hindi po comfort givers ang geisha) kahit sa anime bakas ang "idol" culture ng japan. andun yung mga moe characters. technically lahat din ng dere tipo din ng idol. sa kdrama, jdrama, cdrama ganun din. manuod ka lang ng romcom na kdrama malapit narin yun sa idol culture. samanatalang tayo sa pinas ang pagkakaintindi lang natin sa "idol" magaganda/gwapo na sumasayaw kumakanta. ganun kababaw ang idol culture satin. walang clear definition satin ang "idol" . pag magaling kumanta singer, pag magaling sumayaw dancer, pag magaling sa pareho edi singer-dancer. wala rin namang supporting shows, activities or events. sa korea my mga idol music shows. kumikita yung mga yun dahil may joining fee yung mga groups na magpopromote dun. dito satin foreign concept yung ganun. dito satin pag lumabas ka sa tv, ikaw ang may talent fee. pero san ngayon kukuha ng talent fee yung mga show? sa wala. hindi naman kaya ng endorsements lang. endorsements are secondary income lang sa shows. ang highest priority ng endorsements is kumita, hindi gumastos. kung gagastos sila dun na sila gagastos sa sure na kikita sila, hence nandun na agad sila sa mga sikat na groups. so nawalan uli ng pondo yung shows. sa fiesta naman maliit lang ang kita. hindi parin kaya pang support sa group. kahit sa kpop/jpop/cpop ang main role ng festival shows/events is mainly to promote the artist lang. kumbaga mga mall shows satin. plus mas malakas padin sa pinoy ang mga banda, mga stand up comedian, o artista or kilalang online personality pag pyesta. ang pinaka malaking kita parin is nasa albums and concerts. ang kaso pag hindi pa kilala yung group, pano naman magko concert... albums naman, may mga mangilan ngilan na bibili naman.. pero mas malaki padin yung di bale ng sabihin mong stream to 1 million mo ang pinoy kesa pabilin mo ng album.. so ang tanong is pano siya magiging lucrative enough not only to maintain the group but to be a viable business sa agencies... ang bini kaya ganun kalawak ang sakop nila dahil nung pumutok sila may pang pondo agad para sakanila. ang sb19 matuturing na self-made. pero kung hindi sila magpoproduce ng sarili nilang materials malulunod sila. susunod sa dalawang yung mnl, kaia, g22 na.. pero dahil walang malaking backer, napakalimited ng galaw nila... jusko po, g22, mga mukang manika, mga halimaw ang boses, girl crush na galawan. black pink dapat sila ng pinas (at mas sikat ang blackpink sa pinas kesa sa twice or snsd) kung dun lang, napakawalang dahilan kung bakit hindi sila mas kilala sa kung ano meron sila ngayon.. kaso dahil walang malakas na nasa likod........ tsaka hindi sa ano, pero kung sa korea mataas ang "looks culture" nila, dito satin sa pinas napaka lala ng okray culture. di ako magugulat kung isa ang pinoy sa pinaka magaling mang okray sa mundo 😂🤣😂

[@majesticalenchantress4358]

VER5US name ng group nila. sayang

[@zaizaizai_]

Ano bang pinagkakaabalahan ko nun at di ko napanood to nung live. Very sayang ang chikahan with Kheene

[@KringKim]

Kaya nggaaa waley ka! Baka busy sa trejo 😅

[@ayiZfwyd9419]

♥️♥️

[@SassyLoli]

I bet ang daming nasayang nilang mga potential great singer na hindi nila tinanggap nang dahil lang sa mukha..

[@espiyaako]

SB19 nga hanggang ngayon nilalait lalo na si Stell. Numero uno pa dyan mga Buni Fans na akala mo naman di retokada ang idolets nila. 😂

[@jcescolastico5299]

​@@espiyaakopero Stell is so gwapo na ha mga few lang nanlalait mga threatened. Buni idols but I dont hate BINI. Both SB19! and BINI are doing great uplifting our OPM PPOP.

[@espiyaako]

@@jcescolastico5299 napakarami nilang nanlalait actually.

[@jcescolastico5299]

@@espiyaako really tara awayen natin me nabasa nga ako sabihan atin na otin e sila buni.

[@WonderingMando]

May ppop group ba sya now? Sayang kase ung pinagdaanan nya. Baka pwede sya mag audition sa 1z if mag open sila ng baging boy group.

[@jcescolastico5299]

sana nga mag audition si kheene dear sa 1z sayang e magaling tong si kheene

[@RiveroChannel7]

ANO NAME NG NASA GITNA? 😅

[@jcescolastico5299]

Kheene

[@krissmaboragaysofficials6370]

Bakit po hindi nyo naiinvite or gumagawa ng reaction video sa channel nyo ang ibang PPOP Group na makatutulong sa exposure ng ating mga artist na gustong gustong gawin ng SB19 para mas makilala ang PPOP International at hindi mag-concentrate lang sa isang group.

[@Ppopsupporters]

Kung nag alamat kalang😢

[@VVilla-zh5mw]

_"AUTHENTICITY and HUMOR"_ ❤ Big factors to sa pag sikat ng BINI at pag sikat ng PPOP sa general public. Sa dami ng talent sa PPOP sa Personality tlaga at group bond tlaga mas nahahatak ang fans kahit gano kagaling ang groups.

[@KringKim]

Personally, I think it starts with the music. Once they capture the interest of the public, that’s when fans start to try to get to know them more. BINI has always had good personalities and they were funny, always interacted with fans for 3 years!!! But it wasn’t until Pantropiko na nakahatak talaga sila ng millions. 😊 so malaking bagay primarily is music that the gen pub would love 🙌🏼

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

I don't like P-POP. I only love K-POP & J-POP

[@jcescolastico5299]

then get lost.. no one is asking you! 😂

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

@@jcescolastico5299 SHIBAL

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

​@@jcescolastico5299Weirdo

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

Stop supporting P-POP Group because it's so weird

[@ppopexplorer]

I will support PPOP. It's getting very popular now.

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

@@ppopexplorer yuck

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

@@ppopexplorer i don't like to support P-POP yucks

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

P-POP Group are weirdo

[@ppopexplorer]

PPOP is very amazing and FIlipinos are proud of it.

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

@@ppopexplorer P-POP Group is disgusting

[@tiffanycljuliaac5766]

@@ppopexplorer P-POP nyo mga pinoy lng mga fans nyan kahit sa ibang bansa

[@Msbellalabz]

SUPER THANKYOU MADAM AND SIR JIMMY 😍🙏🏻🫰🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻FOR DOING GUESTING THIS KIND PERSON 🫰🏻 MORE TO GO! #TEAMKRIMILIONNERS🫶🏻💋

[@KringKim]

Thank you for your support to kheene and ppop also bhie 😘

[@Msbellalabz]

@@KringKim always 💛 welcome 🤗 madam! And sir Jimmy 🫶🏻🫶🏻💋