Why Palpatine Never "Fell" to the Dark Side

[@thephenomenalphantom8372]

Can't fall to the dark side When you ARE the dark side!

[@Ravenfanatic5]

Bingo

[@82dorrin]

No. Palpatine is the SENATE!

[@lightnihilus]

Can't riseabove to the lightside When you are the Lightside

[@SamuelMcAlpin-ft3uu]

Can’t have your fate decided by the Senate when you ARE the Senate!

[@lightnihilus]

​​​​@@SamuelMcAlpin-ft3uu I'm not Palpatine, I don't need the senate. My fate already has been completed for it's purpose. What you don't realize is I cheated Selfish Life for draining the life out of Evil/Wicked ones for being a bully. I'm just a wound in the Force. I binded my spirit to the mask and the robes. If you put my mask and my robes on. I'll just come back and complete my fate again.

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

The Dark Side fell to Palpatine

[@tetrasphere8165]

"I am the dark side"

[@DB-rg2dk]

That sounds like a Chuck Norris joke, but def on par, well played sir

[@WhatyourAncestorsknew]

Considering how he died.

[@frankdees507]

His overconfidence was his weakness

[@su93r62]

​​@@tetrasphere8165not yet

[@marcusmyers4822]

“You merely fell to the dark side; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light side until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!”

[@Bezerk_08]

Bane 4vr

[@robertagu5533]

Yeah I was getting them vibes an said as much too

[@kekistanifreedomfighter4197]

Lmao, beat me to it.

[@DibbzTV]

All other Star Wars: *tragic backstories and misunderstood anger* Palpatine: *EVIL LAUGHS*

[@darthandeddeu]

Seriously, his father just was good at nurturing the dark side, Naboo politics & History is dark.

[@zedbruh7212]

💯 Never once did Palpi serve the dark side or have any values that were corrupted He was entirely self centered from the beginning and by nature the perfect instrument of the dark side

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Sidious laughs maniacally "I AM THE DARK SIDE! UNLIMITED POWER!"

[@Troy211]

I'm I the only one that read this with Darth Sidious's voice?

[@peterhauk1914]

​@@Troy211 Nope

[@robertagu5533]

Yeah... He's pretty much a source of limitless Darkside energy.. lucky for him no one seems to need a Darkside battery source

[@gloriousginger]

Palps was NOT Sith. He was... The Senate.

[@GGBlaster]

Not yet.

[@jeremybrown9611]

😂

[@richardmartin8998]

​@GGBlaster it's treason then...

[@undertone2472]

​@@richardmartin8998Aaaarrrrrrgggghhh!

[@540VarialHunter]

Eyy, I gave you 69- Wait, that didn't- 69 likes! I gave your comment a like and it turned... 69!

[@tiniusaustin1466]

Palpatine didn’t fall to the Dark Side. He woke up on it, checked his evil to-do list, and thought, Yep, still the Emperor. Let’s ruin some MORE lives.

[@zedbruh7212]

He woke up and chose violence 😅

[@evanraynolds8699]

Fell implies that there was a point where Palpatine wasnt of the Dark Side. He was born tainted by the Dark Side.

[@selfan2005]

Some people are just born bad.

[@torsmork]

Maybe he was born with it. Maybe it’s Palpatine. 🎵🎶

[@nathand372]

Hahahahhaahhaa bro that was brilliant

[@nathand372]

Next level shit.

[@andonbailey9656]

😀😂

[@bryb2644]

Showing your age on that one.

[@gynarchicawakening]

Palpatine: Oh...you think darkness is your ally? I was born in it...molded by it... Bane: But did you ever see the light? Palpatine: nope... light free over here.

[@Emperor_Oshron]

beat me to it, basically :P

[@michaelwellen2866]

beat me to it.

[@lordofpain3476]

The light flees from Darth Sidious , the light fears Palpatine.

[@lightnihilus]

​​@@lordofpain3476 the light wants you to think that. And yet look what happened to Palpatine later on

[@timobrien7382]

Great video Stupes!!! Palpatine is like: You know, I'm something of a Dark Side Prodigy myself.

[@TheStupendousWave]

LOL, he totally was!

[@timobrien7382]

@TheStupendousWave 😂🤣😂🤣

[@roberttrawinski6493]

Have you ever heard about palpatine the selfliking? It's not a story jedi or sith would tell you palpatine the self liking was guy so powerfull that he was able to corrupt anakin skywalker the chosen one unfortunatly for him he overestimated luke's love for his father It's ironic he overestimated others not himself

[@FordLancer]

Too much darkness leads to chaos and destruction, too much light leads to stagnation and complacency. There must be balance to move forward.

[@hackman669]

How does effect our world. Where is the balance between national powers? 🤔

[@MichaelB07]

@@hackman669 There can only be peace if there's wars. We didn't get to where we were today without global powers, empires and nations conquering each other and going to war with each other. So in a world of peace, there must be battles and wars.

[@kerngezond6953]

@@hackman669 I don’t think you can draw that parallel. A light and dark side as very worldly things as opposed to philosophical constructs is what sets the Star Wars universe apart from ours.

[@darthbane418]

That's not what balance means balance in the force means only the light side the dark side is a cancer something that should not exist

[@TheEmpressPalpatine]

@@kerngezond6953 There is the pillars Jachin and Boaz. The Freemasons know about it.

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

He didn't fall. He just sauntered vaguely downwards.

[@mildlydisinterested]

When Palpatine arrives to the spot, Chuck Norris parks his speeder.

[@kholsinger]

JEDI: We don't like having emotions. FORCE: Imma create a guy who's gonna order a machine made to BLOW UP PLANETS. Uh, Force, you need a hug or something?

[@Danny___Riot]

Force: “no, but you dogmatic dummies refuse one of the most important elements. Emotion! I can’t tell you guys how to do everything. Sometimes you need to feel what is right without turning to me exclusively.”

[@jeremybrown9611]

​@@Danny___RiotThis

[@robertagu5533]

​@@Danny___Riotyeah an it told them "Do that JUST ONE MORE TIME TOO... Don't even try next time, see what happens... Y'all Jedi won't like my response...." *Qui Gon then finds Anakin with his Padawan Obi Wan*

[@Danny___Riot]

@@robertagu5533 yuuuuuup! The force snapped back and hit the big old rest button! Honestly it’s beautiful!

[@jshirlee]

“Palpatine’s life was not a fall into corruption, but was a path set forth before him…before his birth. Set before him by the force.” Kudos to the writer of that bar.

[@BuffBodzMia]

You have spoken like a true Sith, it's all about perspective.

[@car2346]

Palpatine brought no balance to the galaxy. He sunk it into darkness.

[@EmperorDionx]

Palpatine is the ultimate predator created by the force itself. He was like throwing a lion into a pen with a bunch of puppies (the jedi)

[@saltyvillager4258]

Bro is just a psychopath 🗿

[@robertlockwood3277]

Best SW content I’ve seen in a while. Good stuff.

[@NightBane345]

To fall you must be caught unaware and not know what happened, and be blind to events. Sidius knew all along what he was doing, and he embraced it wholeheartedly

[@Lauriestrode1978]

I love Sidious for his manipulative nature and charisma, such an interesting read in revenge of the sith novelization how he manipulated Anakin and controlled the Jedi under his thumb for years, no wonder why bane hated him so much, he was probably jealous he could never make the Jedi do his dirty work lol, Sidious is my favorite because he is the best and the most powerful in the dark side of the force

[@shaydowsith348]

Bane's objection was more that palpatine did not follow the rule of two.

[@SoraMatt]

​@shaydowsith348 well he did but he didn't. He followed the letter of the Rule of Two, but not the spirit of it. And that is what rankled Bane's spirit. To Bane, it was mockery.

[@kensmith7560]

Wow!!! Keep it coming, i think that's why Luke told him, "You've failed your Highness, I'm a Jedi,like my father,. before me,"...😮 knowing Pats, had never known or understood what it really meant to be a True Jedi.....

[@blackc1479]

Wow....can you imagine how pissed palps would be, to find out that the force had been playing HIM the whole time he was "bending it to his will"?😂

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

Palpatine's early life is endlessly fascinating to me because whether he was born with the Dark Side or later on are both valid theories. On the one hand, Cosinga Palpatine says that he tried hold him and Palps fought him with a strength far beyond his age and the Force might have created him but on the other, Palpatine's entire family cast him out and drove him to destroy them all, not to mention that Cosinga said he always wanted to kill Palpatine leading to Palpatine's cunning and secretive nature (as Plagueis describes it). Was Palpatine born a psychopath or did he become a sociopath over time due to the mistreatment by his family? Personally, I lean to the former but both are valid options. It could be either/or and I find that ambiguity to be really compelling 🔥

[@jameswebb5228]

Excellent video as always Stupendous, I now know a lot more lore now than I did thwn. Thanks for another excellent story

[@SHARKVADERS]

I AM THE DARK SIDE

[@discombobulatedecho6025]

Not yet.

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

​@@discombobulatedecho6025 It's treason then *Force Scream and 720° spin*

[@spider-boy5498]

It's treason then.😡

[@Luke_wait_for_it_marengo]

The chosen one will decide your fate.

[@Sub-Zero_104th]

As was tenebrae

[@MeMyself-gf7fn]

Man Palpatines these days only knows charge they lightsaber, eat Darkside infused hot cheetos and lie to the Senate.

[@Danny___Riot]

You can’t “fall” to the dark side when you were literally born of, and into, the dark side.

[@Uulfinn]

Another thing that sets Palpatine apart from other force users is that his connection is invisible to other users. Trained masters like Yoda and Windu would be able to tell instantly if an individual is force sensitive. They couldn't detect it in Palpatine and Palpatine has an incredibly strong connection to the force.

[@devonmoreau]

Palpatine is a natural psychopath and sociopath, the kind of person caught torturing animals when they’re a small child. There was never a fall, just an embrace of his nature.

[@leroyjenkins4811]

Palpatine’s own father said that from the time he was born there was a darkness surrounding him. If I remember correctly, his father said there was something wrong with him and he wished he had strangled Palpatine in his crib. In order to be a Sith, you have to kill someone you love and care about as a sacrifice to the Dark Side. Palpatine killed his entire family including his father, his mother, and his siblings. He even killed family members who had never even done anything wrong or insulting to him simply because they were there. And he got away with it because he made their deaths look like accidents or natural causes.

[@wonderquestor]

Maybe he’s born with it 🎶 Maybe it’s Palp-a-tine

[@Zeroi000]

Kreia "I hate the force, I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some measure of balance, when countless lives are lost."

[@andonbailey9656]

What's really funny to me is the more I listen to the video the more Palpatine sounds like an ENTJ

[@SpeedyStone]

Or INTJ. I watch Palpatine and I don't see a "bad guy" or villain. I see a good role model.

[@dustinbell1995]

Sidious is the most born on 3rd base Sith in the lore. Don't hate him for it, dudes always known what he is.

[@tommoore2012]

Idea for a holocron: all known non-force users who became force sensitive and how it happened.

[@ericseitzler81]

It must have been so aggravating every day for palpatine being around the Jedi and talking to the Jedi knowing how much he hates all of them

[@toddhartman135]

Wow! This is quite a revelatory article. It is truly remarkable the we it presented its POV . Changes my perspective on the antagonist of the story. It maybe the Force itself.

[@stepabuv842]

So true. Considering the power and influence needed to destroy the Jedi, Palpatine's ability to hide his essence was perfect. He could be among the most influential in the galaxy without being detected by Yoda. There is a depth of darkness that can drown the light.

[@aster4jaden]

Him and Exar Kun are the only two to have tamed the Dark Side.

[@JakotaDaGimp]

I'd agrue Vitate had as well.

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

That’s why I respect palpatine so much because he is the DarkSide from day one 🔥 No acting , no pretending & non of that “falling” to anything he just is that from the very beginning.

[@pariahdog6703]

Would that mean Vader was designed as a kill switch....

[@JakotaDaGimp]

Him and/or Luke as well.

[@tjwoolf22]

He was a sociopath at birth(nature) and later a psychopath because of his family(nurture). Unfortunately he was extremely force sensitive.

[@DeathScepter]

it is inverse. Psychopath are born(nature) and Sociopath are made(nurture). Palpatine is psychopath with sadism so he is perfect for the Sith

[@94462]

He is the true Sith Ari

[@silentalliance3269]

Considering Palpatine had no force signature and killed his own parents when he was a young teenager and see the dark side was in him from birth, even that statement may not be correct but when plague is pushed him and asked him why did you kill him and Palpatine made unacceptable answers play this would continue to push him until he admitted it in his anger that was when I feel he really knew what the dark side was

[@killuafanboy3812]

I believe George explained the Dark side like a cancer at some point. And... for balance I don’t think that means you gotta be healthy and sick with cancer. 😅

[@ajjr755]

Darth Sidious,I was born in it molded by it😈

[@ByxsCrazyZ]

“I am the Dark Side-, I mean Senate!

[@ryanfletcher4054]

Very interesting! I really enjoy the idea that he was an agent of the force and fate. Palpatine is the greatest character in all of Star Wars and this theory only makes him more interesting

[@thosko98]

I don't know if he was born a dark side user, but his motivations (his only goal had basically always been to rule over people) meant that being a Sith perfectly suited him. I don't think Palpatine cared for the Sith ideology for its own sake, but being a Sith granted him both personal power and the opportunity to have power over others, and therefore he became a Sith.

[@herodaresfire4512]

Anakin fell to the dark side. Palpatine chose the dark side. The dark side fell to Chuck Norris.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

Sidious falling to the Dark Side is like water trying to drown an ocean.

[@Learningthetruth-ci5mw]

I agree with you. Incredible insights guys

[@Not_a_lier]

"I am the dark side" Lord Sidious to Darth Vader at a random meeting.

[@waxsupernova1188]

Palps is a true dark sider he uses it to the fullest and it will let him as all sith use to see themselfs he saw himself as the darksides owner and genuinely looked to be it

[@henchme976]

So Palpatine was the true hero of Star Wars all along. The chosen one and one true senate.

[@edthewicked]

Right on 💯

[@komikbookgeek]

I do like the idea that he never Fell, he simple Was. Adds to Palpatine as the monster he is.

[@Historicutuber]

"He became so powerful...the only thing he was afraid of was...losing his power...which of course he did"

[@traceytillery382]

After reading the title, I thought, "No! He jumped right into it!"

[@JustinMinckley]

Masterful knowledge and work here. It's important all fans keep in mind how it's possible Sidious was a vessel of evil this entire time

[@battlesheep2552]

So Kreia was absolutely right, there can be no peace so long as the Force exists, as it will always create conflict in its unending need for "balance"

[@NorthVandea]

I have studied the dark side, worked to perfect it; but you, you were forged by it!

[@Gor85]

I completely agree. Palpatine was born to do this. To expose Jedi,their hubris,arrogance,dogma. He made Jedi and Sith face each other,their philosophies. He needed to remade the galaxy. Great holocron. May the Force be with you😊

[@TMBoren]

"You merely adopted the darkness... I was born of it!"

[@definiteg4909]

Excellent video

[@MrKevin486]

Don't skeeve the Sheev.

[@mths7]

Palpatine “ Ah so you think darkness is your ally “

[@chrisduprey7283]

Great video of my favorite character in Star Wars portrayed by a great actor.

[@shkotayd9749]

He is proof that occasionally....the Dark Side can give birth to one of its own. The Plagueis novel made it very clear he was a powerhouse from youth and always trying to hold back his darkness. Not because it was bad, but he just didnt want it discovered.

[@bennyblunto973]

Not only did he fall to the dark side. He exploded into lightning when Vader suplexed him into oblivion

[@leonardlandau720]

It's kind of like Superman being unlike any of the other superheroes. He was just born that way.

[@TheGuardianofAzarath]

Honestly, i'd love to see a threeway fight between Abaloth, Sidious and Viciette

[@sypherthe297th2]

I've always been fascinated by the question of how Palpatine would stack up against Tenebrae. Tenebrae had centuries to grow in power at the center of his Empire plus he was truly immortal and immersed in the Dark Side from the ritual. Vitiate and Sidious are true rivals in how their lives mirror one another. Abeloth though. . . she is on another level and would spank the two of them. As I recall, it takes a powerful Light and Dark Side user just to make her retreat temporarily. Even the two of them together couldn't stand against her as she is a pure entity of the Dark Side and more powerful than even the Brother.

[@AlanRipman]

He loved himself more than anything in the entire universe. You got to be able to give in to your (insert dark sode emotion here) and that would never happen for palpatine

[@tpstratton]

Great stuff!

[@andy2200]

Good old palpi was BORN TO BE WILD!!!

[@jeniskindof]

How to fall to the dark side when you are a permanent resident complete with a seaside villa a chourfer and a private beach within it

[@markkalinovits232]

While this theory is clever, it is totally against Lucas’s idea of the Force.

[@gumdeo]

Even the Dark Side feared Palpatine.

[@csrtitus]

Perhaps Sidious could be seen as a "chosen one" as well. Which is very terrifying when you think about it. The force is giving a mandate to a single being to carry out. I'm getting the hell out of the way of that man for sure.

[@LadyAndreaRose1701]

Good soldiers like, subscribe and share

[@ChrisGrogu]

Absolutely ❤

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Of course Trooper🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@gloriousginger]

That line is MINE.

[@gloriousginger]

That's MY LINE

[@LadyAndreaRose1701]

@gloriousginger gotta beat me to it

[@DarthDevorin]

To quote Darth Talon, "He was born Sith."

[@inquisitorgarza312]

He was a force of change and it was the Dark Side champion who will bring true balance to the Force.

[@EAWanderer]

When already immersed in the darkness, you can't fall into it. You fall deeper and deeper into it. 😅

[@matthewgisi-x9g]

Dare I say he was.... born into it... molded by it

[@Ravenfanatic5]

The embodiment of evil=Sidious

[@zachberry4742]

So if the force created him is he even really “bad”? I know he’s evil, but if you’re born evil then it just is what it is.

[@DemonicAdj]

He didn't fall. He took the fire pole.

[@KhemistryIBMOR]

Fascinating!

[@JosefAugustusForonda]

Just like Erebus.... He was able to make a great universe and conflict

[@faromatthias]

What's the music playing in the background? It's neither one from the description?

[@DarthSebastian2001]

Imagine that the Jedi found Palpatine? That would be worse off than how Anakin would turn out

[@maxisdead2153]

He would be a count dooku 2.0, but with WAY more power and ambition.

[@mynamesnotdan]

you chose the darkness, i was born in it

[@TheOfficialFivervex]

His father said, if the force birthed you then I curse it !

[@Amadeus8484]

Palpatine: I AM the Dark Side..."

[@dreadrath]

Short answer, the dude was one of those rare cases of someone simply being born evil.

[@ling0s138]

And when the force needed him again…he came back somehow I’ll see myself out

[@superraegun2649]

Palpatine was just part of the force's answer to the stagnant state of the Jedi. The other parts were Qui-Gon Jin, Anakin Skywalker, and Luke Skywalker. Palpatine didn't bring balance to the force by destroying the Jedi, he sent it too far the other way, Anakin brought balance by destroying him after he'd already destroyed the Jedi. Qui-Gon's philosophy (which differed greatly from the prevailing philosophy of the Jedi at the time) was more akin to what a balanced force would be, and so he was able to return from the nether world of the force as a guide so that when Anakin destroyed Palpatine and himself, Luke would be able rebuild the Jedi order in a more ideal manner.

[@TheAverageGamer1]

Palpatine was born for darkness and was destined for evil BUT im still gonna watch