Why Poland is having huge protests

The country’s women are furious at their government.
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In October and November of 2020, Poland saw its biggest protests since the fall of its communist regime 30 years ago. Hundreds of thousands of women marched in defiance of a new court ruling that would outlaw abortions under almost any circumstance.
Poland has long had some of the strictest abortion laws in Europe. But in 2015, the right-wing party Law and Justice (PiS) came to power in Poland, and promptly started trying to narrow abortion access in the country even further. In 2016 they attempted to pass a total ban. They failed.
But in 2020, at the ruling party’s request, Poland’s highest court ruled that almost all abortions were illegal. They did so because Law and Justice had spent the previous few years degrading the court’s independence and turning it into an arm of the party. The protests began immediately, partly because of the ruling itself but also because of what it represents: the risk of losing not only reproductive rights but the country’s democratic institutions.
To understand why this ruling has driven so many into the streets, and exactly why it threatens Poland’s democracy, watch the video above.
Note: At 1:50, a previous version of this video illustrated a quote from Law & Justice party leader Jarosław Kaczyński with a photo of his late twin brother, former president Lech Kaczyński. The error has been corrected.
Sources and further reading:
To explore abortion laws around the world, check out this interactive map by the Center for Reproductive Rights:
reproductiverights.org/worlda...
If you prefer a comparative review of European abortion laws you can find it here:
reproductiverights.org/sites/...
To understand Poland’s evolution on abortion laws, from 1955 when it was legal on request to today's which are among the most restrictive in Europe, check out this article:
www.jstor.org/stable/2137747?...
If you’d like to read Poland’s current abortion law, established in 1993, you can find it here:
www.reproductiverights.org/si...
You can read the Constitutional Tribunal’s abortion ruling, issued on October 22nd, 2020, here:
trybunal.gov.pl/en/hearings/j...
Poland’s ruling drew condemnation from the Council of Europe, whose commissioner for human rights, Dunja Mijatović, called it "a sad day for women’s rights." You can learn more about that here:
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
The European Stability Initiative has released a report detailing the collapse of the rule of law in Poland. You can find it here:
www.esiweb.org/publications/w...
The Venice Commission, officially European Commission for Democracy through Law, is an advisory body of the Council of Europe, composed of independent experts in the field of constitutional law. You can read their opinion on Poland’s Constitutional Tribunal here:
www.venice.coe.int/webforms/d...
A shorter statement by the President of the Venice Commission can be found here:
www.coe.int/en/web/human-righ...
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[@Vox]

We now have translated subtitles available in Polish. Access them through the settings icon > Subtitles/CC > Polish Thanks for watching!

[@jebembabenapasach5070]

Vox I have a question. Why does the video about how Poland pushing the EU into crisis haven't Polish subtitles??

[@ddziopson6337]

​@Jordy Aguilar Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, the Balkan states should leave the EU on their own and form their own Three Seas union with the post-Soviet states. Unfortunately, strong Poland is not at the hand of either Germany or Russia. Otto von Bismark said - let the Poles rule and they will create the most powerful empire in the world

[@sorryforprojectingmyparent6402]

-Hey Brain what are we gonna do tonight? -The same thing we do every night Pinky, - trying to make an empire!

[@seangilmore_]

Sure

[@krzysztofgorecki1667]

Germany when you return plundered works of art from Poland

[@mh4oliveira]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why politics and religion should never mix with one another

[@aryanj6501]

Yup

[@panzerofthelake506]

Abolish religion in the administration

[@panzerofthelake506]

Also what would the party gain by abolishing abortion? Do they want more baby graves? Are they funded by baby casket and burial companies?

[@mehdin7520]

I’m from Afghanistan and I 100% agree with this! See what it has done to us here...

[@sonofelia]

@Serafino Putranta I hate it too, my dad became extremely paranoid because of it

[@John-vp2jq]

"Law and Justice" - what a truly Orwellian name for a party like this.

[@KristofDE]

I really enjoyed the fact Vox put the name in quotation marks. Had a little chuckle seeing it :-D

[@biedrona871]

Really ? Orwell world is in western countries - in Poland You can say whatever You want - in western You dont - so if You watch 1984 where is life like in movie ?

[@gabrielalehle6135]

@@biedrona871 Boo hoo you can't spit slurs at minorities and it makes you angry?

[@justinh6651]

@@biedrona871 what? Western democracies have a lot more freedom than Poland. There's no denying it or you're simply delusional.

[@michanowak7060]

The name is taken straight from religious psalm. By a total coincidence for last few years every time when there's election day (always Sunday in Poland) every church sings 'God loves law and justice'

[@mitchhoy]

The born dead, baptized, and buried comment is jaw dropping.

[@chlastek13]

Yes it is, but there is a logic behind that: priests can charge more money while baptising and burring

[@johanexxxx]

@Ashley Harver Couldn't you just be Agnostic or an Atheist?

[@shlomo9896]

@@chlastek13 in these cases everyone can baptize the baby and its often nurse, midwife or someone else from the hospital staff that baptizes the baby

[@jrurbbehdidiwdnndjduw85eos73]

@@chlastek13 baptisms don't cost money

[@chasemcpot7789]

I thought that was beautiful. I understand where youre coming from and why subjecting non religious people to this can be seen with disgust. But to someone that truly has Cristian beliefs I can’t think of anything more beautiful.

[@csmlegend3704]

"The Political parties have control over the constitutional tribunal" U.S: First time?

[@memeinfantery7277]

Eastern Europe : no

[@lucascb8446]

@Comrad Sam well but it is

[@lucascb8446]

@N 2 The video itself does not. This concept does.

[@lucascb8446]

@N 2 Obviously Poland has more problems than the USA and if I had to choose between these I would probably choose the USA too. But the USA has so many problems itself, it's still very low on the list if I had to move anywhere. I gladly live in Germany instead of either of them.

[@kaikoasami4952]

Not for the first time. But for the first time they upset women in such a large group

[@prateetibarua4607]

2020, a year of protests. 2020, everyone's Breaking point.

[@michelofelia7735]

Indeed

[@Jasvinder518]

Indian Farmers are also protesting in India!

[@talahari2441]

2020: A year of government's corruption exposure

[@mvlisia3530]

**cough** Hongkong? **cough**

[@omni8568]

Rip I hit my breaking point in 2017 so I’m hella desensitized to all of this 2020 stuff 😓

[@EchoL0C0]

This is messed up. And tf is up with "investigating" miscarriages? Don't the women going through those have enough to deal with?

[@evanscarbrough9711]

They want to see if the mother intentionally caused the miscarriage. Still pretty messed up.

[@RainbowJesusChavez]

The whole purpose of restrictions like these only have one intention, to oppress. The trauma they would cause is entirely intentional.

[@Eyes_On_America]

Don't trust everything you see in the web XD best-quality bulls*it XD

[@Mkm-iv4sm]

What is messed up is the millions of abortions. Truly bloodthirsty murderers walking the Earth right now.

[@snifferfiffer2773]

@@Mkm-iv4sm agree

[@_maaja_264]

This feeling when you are polish and you know what is happening, but still you: 1. Watch it 2. Watch it with English subtitles

[@jeopardized9293]

Ayo I like that pfp

[@saandaczysko]

Nom +1 byczq

[@matthewbarymow4402]

Wiem co masz na myśli.

[@blackachilles8745]

Ladies I'm the man for the job

[@ailo8964]

Sadly Poland has been denying EU values and orders.

[@shapelessed]

Imagine spending thousands preparing a funeral for a child that's not even born yet... Imagine giving birth to a child with no limbs, half the skull exposed or without organs necessary to live... Now imagine an old man who had never dealt with something like it, saying you've got no right to stop it, before the psychic pain gets too great to deal with... An old man who wants to decide on topics he has no idea about nor any understanding...

[@diobrando5746]

your over exaggerating

[@zepter00]

@@diobrando5746 it’s a horror and big tragedy!

[@chinggiskhan6678]

Hey, that's not fair, the man wants the money.

[@hmao7220]

@@diobrando5746 pregnancy and birth itself is already a health risk, no human should be forced to go through it

[@ilikefarting]

@@diobrando5746 has an amime pfp

[@sam08g16]

2:01 Reporter: how many books do you want in your shot? Old lady: yes

[@Isai314]

Lol

[@chilloha6464]

Bookworm will have their life eating book

[@nzf-kx2qol1g12]

There isn't much more room for the books I guess...

[@raymobs]

vox interviewed her in her natural habitat

[@peres9559]

Yeah she's one of the best law professors in Poland ;)

[@KasiaGandor]

Thank you Vox for covering this topic! It's really important for us to get the word out and let people know how distressing this whole situation is ⚡️

[@wojciechgorny]

And let's not forget the video was created in cooperation with Tofu Media (Krzysztof Gonciarz) 😉

[@krzysztofmadajczak6865]

I am Polish and I am against abortion, everyone had the right to choose a party, the majority decided to vote for Pis. We have to respect the majesty of democracy and respect their decision.

[@lucyferyna3506]

@@krzysztofmadajczak6865 ale pierdolisz jak potrącony. XD Nikt nie powinien odbierac mi prawa do aborcji ani odbierać możliwości wykonywania i karania mnie jako lekarza za to, że pomogłam pacjentce w jej leczeniu.

[@marcelinas4387]

@@krzysztofmadajczak6865 You can't just agree with everything the party says just because it was choosen in democratic election, that's not how it works

[@Crow22Darkness]

@@user-en2gk7vy8x I'm not religious.

[@justsamoo3480]

The irony of the party's name....

[@JustAPolishAmerican]

And the worst part is that I have to suffer because of them.

[@justabunny999]

Explain how please, polish-american? Cause I am sure you live in usa, and are talking about polish politics when you are not living there... Cause if you live in poland explain me whats making you suffer?

[@JustAPolishAmerican]

@@justabunny999 I was born in the US with Polish parents (and thanks to birthright citizenship laws, I have American citizenship). When I was 4, I had to move to Poland with my family, and that's where I live now. As a resident of Poland, I can say that PiS is horrible in every way possible. The stripping of the country's democracy, the illegalization of practically *ALL* abortion causing *ENORMOUS* protests all over the country during a pandemic, the vetoing of the EU's budget, the creation of "LGBT-free" zones, the announcement of an advertising tax causing *all independent media to protest by closing their services* and *SO MUCH MORE.*

[@itzgang1540]

@@JustAPolishAmerican please stay strong and don’t give up and hope that things get better soon

[@JustAPolishAmerican]

@@itzgang1540 Thanks for the support!

[@demircruz6291]

Im Pro-Life... but if the baby is already dead there is no point in giving birth to him to baptise him and burry him.

[@Daniel78611]

Same

[@chasingstars5614]

They want them to be baptised and buried only for the priests to get more money (though they already are super wealthy - I know a lot of priests). PiS is a super conservative and religious party and it almost seems as the Catholic Church in Poland is a part of it. Priests in Churches even talk about how you should vote for conservative people in the elections.

[@vivliforia2262]

Pro-Life

[@antoni9728]

This law does not strict abortion when the Child is already dead

[@PrimalAspid96]

@@chasingstars5614 PiS being conservative? Their economic believes are from communism they are trying their hardest to seem like religious people only to fool those seniors who don't use internet that much.

[@ar2042]

So how will they investigate miscarriages? Create a snitching law for neighbors and doctors?

[@Lampka6]

Yes. If someone claims in court that they for example have seen you carrying heavy object while pregnant, and then you had a miscarriage, you are charged as if you accidentally killed someone. Just to close women up.

[@awesomemancam5758]

They did it with the pandemic of course they can

[@dinahmyte3749]

That's the main worry for people like me, who will never become pregnant but worry about the implications of abortion bills. Every miscarriage would HAVE to be investigated if abortion is outlawed, putting a woman through invasive treatments and trauma after a terrible event. Secret abortions and the resulting deaths would increase. Just let a woman choose...

[@l.c.8475]

10% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, this would be terrible

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

@@Lampka6 Nobody wants this. Punishing people for miscarriages is very rare, i've only heard of such cases from the arab world. It's not the goal by this legislation meant to make sure that women/men behave like real humans with good character, caring for others, and respecting life.

[@abdullahsaeed7542]

"Law and Justice" Palpatine: "ironic"

[@marnie4629]

Fun trivia: the name "Law and Justice" comes from an Old Testament Bible quote.

[@tahiti1901]

@@marnie4629 I actually didn't know that

[@gskillet4219]

@@marnie4629 man of culture

[@pickchickens5286]

@@marnie4629 now it explains everything

[@Abdullah-fp4vu]

@@pickchickens5286 wasn't the party a upholding polish identity calling Islam a barbaric religion,barbaric people.Enjoy your right winger party.Yes,I know Muslims aren't perfect but Islam is.We love all of them.We don't want war or do any mischief to anyone.please spread love and peace. -From a muslim woman

[@starcherry6814]

If you want to carry a stillborn pregnancy to "term" Go right ahead but don't force other people to do it, it's not your body or your child.

[@kingdmind]

@Haris Peco That “body” literally cannot exist without their mother even after they’re born. Fetuses are as much of a mother’s body as any ither part of her body

[@asianbrosas3603]

@@kingdmind So does that mean I can just go “abort” any born human being too?

[@31ll087]

@Haris Peco That bundle of flesh in a mother's womb is NOT a sentient life form. Its brain has not developed enough pattern recognition to become a conscious being. 100% of a fetus' matter in its body came from its mother. Without the fetus being conscious or even fully developed then it's up to the mother about what happens to it.

[@kingdmind]

No, because once they’re born they are conscious. When inside the womb they have no semblence of identity, thoughts or consciousness, just a bunnch if cells cumpled together, like any tissue or organ

[@31ll087]

@@kingdmind Exactly! The child isnt truely "alive" until its born and able to form memories.

[@swts731]

As Pole I'm kinda crying because the party in my country can do whatever they want and we can't change anything. The worst is television, which shows such shocking fakes

[@billbob458]

What do you mean by "we"? These are popular decisions

[@mix3k818]

bill bob The party itself may have the most voters, but most of their actions regarding abortion and judges are widely opposed.

[@billbob458]

@@mix3k818 Most people are not for abortion and never have been

[@mix3k818]

bill bob But 80% of people still disagree with the government's solution of an abortion ban like that

[@Venom96930]

Słyszałaś może o czymś takim jak wybory parlamentarne?

[@azurefire7266]

This government is way too similar to the one we have in Hungary and it is really worrying to both countries... Respect from Hungary!

[@yurichtube1162]

Seems like populism has grown

[@MsGeorge50]

You should be proud of them. The two healthies systems of government in the whole world that respect tradition and the native people.

[@azurefire7266]

@@MsGeorge50 Can't really be proud of one of the most corrupt and authoritarian government in Europe.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

The United States needs to step in. I really hope Joe Biden gets involved and addresses the rise of authoritarianism in Eastern Europe.

[@boff__]

@SuperThunderGoodGuy it’s not just Eastern Europe there’s also things happening in France too

[@bobbyman410]

4:02 Imagine the life of the being the only judge not appointed by the Law and Justice party

[@sebastianboeddinghaus3505]

She's out there trying to do the most

[@Gwynbleidd66]

@@sebastianboeddinghaus3505 You mean "he's"? It's about justice Leon Kieres, the only one appointed before 2015. His term runs through 2021 sadly, so from the next year all of the justices will be appointed by PiS. To be fair, one of the justices appointed by them, Piotr Pszczółkowski, was the second one other than Kieres that opinionated this ruling differently than the others, defending the women's rights. He's alright, but won't make any difference.

[@erykjabonski1038]

just like british "convervative party"

[@Abdullah-fp4vu]

@@erykjabonski1038 wasn't the party a upholding polish identity calling Islam a barbaric religion,barbaric people.Enjoy your right winger party.Yes,I know Muslims aren't perfect but Islam is.We love all of them.We don't want war or do any mischief to anyone.please spread love and peace. -From a muslim woman

[@ianhomerpura8937]

@@Abdullah-fp4vu weird, since some Muslims tend to be as conservative as Catholics

[@ijuju99]

Killing a child is murder

[@jellyfesh7517]

not even alive

[@scottishbananaclan]

@@jellyfesh7517 No the baby has a beating heart and brain activity. The unborn child is very much alive. If a baby is not alive neither are you or me.

[@jellyfesh7517]

@@scottishbananaclan alive is being born

[@timelapse497]

@@scottishbananaclan Brain activity starts about 6-8 weeks in, before that it is quite literally just a clump of cells. They also can’t feel pain until about 16-20 weeks into pregnancy.

[@TheHollandHS]

Lets just hope the former "iron curtain" doesn't become the "Iron closet".

[@matthewbarymow4402]

Yeah.

[@arthurolejniczak4547]

klósett? That is where human life ends up if you allow an abortion.

[@darthhuntanoth3134]

"Law and justice" i do love irony

[@BigBang28A]

banning abortion, because apparently religious christians have been discriminated for centuries and banning abortion is a sign of liberation for religious snowflakes

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

I don't know why they won again. I think they're our enemy that watnts money and nothink else

[@rtwo_5070]

yeah...

[@Octobris]

as someone from Poland, I totaly agree. "Law and Justice" party literally tarnished the true meaning of these words.

[@karolgutkowski4678]

"Law and Justice" translates to "Prawo i Sprawiedliwość" which appears a lot of times in the Bible and it signals that strong connection of the ruling party to the church. Since most of PiS voters are suburbs and villages citizens and majority of them declares being religious it allows them to score easy points. It's more of a tactical move than sign of believe and you can see that in most of party doings. They just play illusion game that many uneducated people fall for.

[@demonseed360]

"They refused to swear in several judges who were appointed by the previous government and replaced them with judges who would be loyal to them" Hmm, why does this all sound so familiar?

[@BlueYT1107]

*sniff* *sniff* I can smell totalitarianism...

[@sungyoon93]

I'm looking at you US Senate !!!

[@allisonkniech5680]

@@bryan-zp6ty RBG actually went to law school, and Amy Coney Barrett has made it clear she won't separate religion from government.

[@henryh4219]

@@bryan-zp6ty President Clinton nominated her as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, and she took her seat August 10, 1993. The presidency of Bill Clinton began at noon EST (17:00 UTC) on January 20, 1993, when Bill Clinton was inaugurated as the 42nd President of the United States, and ended on January 20, 2001. Get your facts straight pls. It just takes less than a minute to check.

[@maroonedexplorer6622]

It’s almost like right-wing populism shares many of the same characteristics in different countries. Hmmmm.

[@skeptical5727]

I’m polish American and more pro life, but eliminating a right from a woman isn’t nice.

[@yupthatsme5257]

????? You're pro life but OK with women having an abortion? Honey you're confused

[@davrosdarlek7058]

@@yupthatsme5257 they're not saying they're okay with it but that they don't think it's their place to choose for someone.

[@skeptical5727]

@@yupthatsme5257 No I’m saying that I don’t approve at all but taking a right away isn’t good, plus they said they will investigate miscarriage

[@comradepolarbear6920]

@@davrosdarlek7058 then they're pro choice. They can't be pro life

[@ecstasy5022]

thats not what pro life is buddy but ok, you're just pro choice with extra steps.

[@yantarniy]

*From Kazakhstan. Polsha strong.*

[@czarnykomar81]

Polsha want to space

[@olzhastortpayev8053]

Советский союз

[@matthewbarymow4402]

Спасибо.

[@hello-2677]

@@czarnykomar81 Polska can into space

[@seyamrahman1002]

You know a party is bad when their name is “law & justice”

[@thekira1371]

This could happend in Romania here a random party named the aliance for the the unity of Romania (AUR) wats to make abortion iIlegal , the ortodox religion to dominate , to make LGBTQ+ rights dissapear and basically the president of the partid is sexist and he wrote about it in his book then got kicked out for that from a national book club , this is messed up .

[@bvanbanan]

And their party leader Judge Dredd shouting "I AM THE LAW!"

[@plislegalineu3005]

Prawo i Sprawiedliwość, short: PiS Platforma Obywatelska, short: PO PO+PiS = Popis (show (to make someone (or more than one) react in certain way)) And why there is "someone" but there is not "sometwo" or "somethree"

[@yassineszn17]

@@thekira1371 good i like this party

[@mishaf19]

@Autistic Arthur taking away a women’s rights to the point it threatens her own life does not make you a good person.

[@calscal]

Poland should really try this thing called separation of church and state.

[@Gewehr_3]

Very much an American ideology. Church and state are synonymous in a lot of European countries.

[@Louis-kw6yk]

@@Gewehr_3 hum not, it hasn't been for a long time

[@WrathOfPhropet]

@@Gewehr_3 which is absolutely wrong and should never be a thing

[@frenchskateboarder869]

@@Gewehr_3 It's not. In france the separation of church and state are applied since 1905.

[@jokubasziziunas1457]

@@Gewehr_3 I think you should restrain from commenting when you have no clue what you are talking about

[@muchomor3336]

Those marches are disgusting

[@littlejimmy5060]

they are the marches of the majority

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@littlejimmy5060 yet they kept losing.

[@allflying3]

Me: "That 3 rules of abortion is not that ba-" Video: 1:49 Me: "...nevermind"

[@user-ss5os3qw6b]

Can you please make a video about protests in Belarus? We truly need the world's support right now as we have been protesting for 4 month and people have been killed by the police. We need to hear more about Belarus

[@internetchunk6541]

@Comrade Zapadoslav says a far right pleb, Vox isn't 'far-left' btw

[@ethanbarnes7163]

@Comrade Zapadoslav It doesn’t matter what his ideology is, he was elected undemocratically

[@ethanbarnes7163]

@Comrade Zapadoslav They’ve done plenty of segments on China. Point is, Lukashenko is a horrendous person and I wish they would do a video on it, but we can’t jump to conclusions like that which is what you’re doing.

[@ilvailvandoniherde496]

Don't go to EU! It will destroy Belarus.

[@chasingsunsets87]

It because these media has ties and they are trying to destablize poland.

[@aleksaculjak7917]

A king who has to say "I am the king" is no true king at all A party that has to name itself "law and justice" will probably be against just that

[@piese6240]

A strike that had to name itself "women's strike" will probably be against them

[@tubester4567]

Well its kind of true, the people who scream loudest about something, are the most problematic. Like Feminists who want to end sexism are the most sexist, anti-racism activists are the most racist.

[@naotamf1588]

@Comrade Zapadoslav well it is, isn't it? most people wrongfully to be considered innocent, wern't particularly dark skinned.

[@giantgiant268]

Black lives matter is anything but

[@checktheplaylist101]

Right! Kind of like ☭Israel being a beacon of democracy in the Middle East is actually the most supremacist state around.

[@DangerousKaos]

When you think you're country is different, you find we all have similar if not the same problems. Imagine that.

[@AmirMalik-sj3ov]

your*

[@Apple-tz6hs]

Amir Malik ok

[@craftah]

Yea countries arent really different except some are poor

[@geraldinejorda3462]

support for Poland! God bless Poland.

[@josuafransisco1220]

look many idi*t liberal very panic. lets liberal rules germany, and france. let them poland rules them self. LGBT is not special LOL

[@gojosunwashedpants]

Thank u

[@lolz6337]

@@gojosunwashedpantshe means the government. Not the baby killers

[@kgonciarz]

It was great to be able to contribute to this piece as Tofu Media. Cheers!

[@Dokuzu]

idź tam lewaku

[@Dokuzu]

jak oni pomylili jarka i lecha w 1;58

[@WhoisMikey]

witaj Krzysiu

[@vladsafronov7642]

Thank you!

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Witaju was bro

[@HeresJohny]

"It's so bad even introverts took to the streets"

[@fabian6514.cr3]

💀

[@zejdland]

Not really

[@bmw530]

these introvert comments killing me :D

[@sglim5284]

Is not abortion murder ?

[@fabian6514.cr3]

@@sglim5284 abortion isn't murder, because it's just a clump of cells, that has not developed enough to be something that even resembles a baby.

[@mvitor7412]

You have the right to decide about your life, not about someone else's. Nowadays there thousands of institutions that accept unwanted children. Murder isn't a choice, it's a crime.

[@jellyfesh7517]

Mixing religion with goverment is bad

[@ezpz439]

Yep, that's what you get when you don't have a secular government. Less freedom whatsoever

[@mohdadeeb1829]

@@ezpz439 If you think about it, every Constitution is mixed with religion.

[@Hargan]

I knew stuff was going on, but Jesus. It's mad that this sort of conversation needs to even be happening in the year 2020

[@yurichtube1162]

Secularism needs to come back

[@jonizymberi6787]

@Shhreyas Kairoli Liberalism in Europe is declining while the "far-right" is growing. Europe has followed the liberal doctrine since the 1980s and now people are turning against it.

[@christianevanherck6023]

@Μαριος Μεργουδης

[@OmarTheGrey]

@Horvat Lovren good

[@cloudperson890]

@Μαριος Μεργουδης You must love china and the dprk.

[@amazinghin8204]

Stand with the Polish. Love from Hong Kong.

[@Helperbot-2000]

And i stand with Poland and Hong Kong! Love from Norway

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Nah, those protests were too little too late. If the same amount of people protested when our government basically destroyed the rule of law with constitutional tribunal - we would still have a working democracy here

[@zievieartz9270]

Reading those comments makes me think that some people missed the point here. It‘s not about if catholic values are good or bad. If the clear majority of Poland would be really strong catholic and approve the law then they should go ahead, but the big detail that many people miss here is that 80% of poles disagreed with it.

[@kazikwalking9783]

A lot of Polish people are catholic but discussed by the Polish Church.

[@sagefrancetich]

This Constitutional Tribunal conflict sounds a lot like what is happening in the Supreme Court of the United States.

[@trismegistusholy6482]

The difference is that you still have democracy, here it is almost gone.

[@Irgma112]

​@@trismegistusholy6482 Hahahahahaaaaaa! Nice joke.

[@trismegistusholy6482]

@@Irgma112 Thank you. I know.

[@aviatorsound914]

There’s nothing alike about constitutional tribunal or the Supreme Court. The constitutional tribunal only gives decisions or opinions if this is constitutional or not. Even though the supreme court does the same function the Supreme Court can also give warrants and use legal powers to enforce those decisions. Supreme court also serve for life on the bench in which they don’t have to worry about the public opinion or public views as supreme court is not supposed to be politically influenced that’s why they serve for life not elected in which that’s why most supreme courts are life positions and most supreme court justices knows more about what the people are facing than those politicians in which most supreme court justices have law backgrounds or just appointed from civilian background to seat.

[@sagefrancetich]

@@aviatorsound914 That was a bit of word rampage at the end, but I think I get your point? Then again, I'm not sure that I do. Life terms don't create apolitical nature. If anything, life terms translate to/favor dictatorship, because the demands of the majority of a population 10yrs from now may differ quite a bit from the demands of today, which those appointed 20 years ago aren't keeping up with at all. Term limits and additional seats on the Supreme Court would mean that more cases can be heard and handled, and that those appointed can serve terms more reflective of the population they serve during their terms instead of being dinosaurs in an evolving population with changing legal and social demands.

[@fusion9694]

I think it’s because Lewandowski didn’t get the ballon d’or

[@jorgebaez90]

underrated comment

[@moncef2466]

@@jorgebaez90 - These americans can't relate, smh

[@Motshwane.Letsoalo]

😂😂

[@ALilUnhumane]

He got the Lego d’or tho

[@letsfckinggoo]

This comment deserves to blow up. It’s a shame Americans have no sense of humor

[@AniketMondal1995]

Vox please cover the farmer protests in India, this is the largest protest in the world that is happening right now

[@juliapechcin8918]

What is happenig there?

[@allisonjuno7654]

@@juliapechcin8918 about 250 million people are protesting

[@Makeybussines]

@@allisonjuno7654 More details please :)

[@allisonjuno7654]

@@Makeybussines you can look it up, just search 'india strike'

[@Albinary]

searched it up so you don't have to, Tens of thousands of Indian farmers camping on the outskirts of the capital city, New Delhi, for more than a week have launched a “Bharat Bandh” (nationwide general strike) to demand the scrapping of three farm laws they say will hurt their livelihood and benefit only corporations. The three laws are the Farmers' Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Act, the Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement on Price Assurance and Farm Services Act, and the Essential Commodities (Amendment) Act.

[@hellobye5446]

I feel trapped in my own country

[@badda_boom8017]

Did anyone else see the unicorn at 7:47? :D

[@Ironication]

As a hungarian, I support my polish friends against their oppressing government. We have a similar problem in Hungary with the ruling party basically building a totalitarian regime.

[@dewolajzserem3971]

We will stay together like always

[@gubernat59]

We need to be strong in this fight, take care of yourselves there guys - yours Polish friend

[@zacky6533]

Bojler eladó! For real though, yes our situation in Hungary is quite dire as well. I would love to see Vox make (another) video about our country.

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

it looks like that in poland is better but we have the same problems .We need to cooperate .The only one difference between Hungary and Poland is that in Poland media are under pressure somehow indenpedent but not in Hungary,isn't it?

[@petergriffin9173]

I would like to know your opinions about the debate on the Rule of Law Mechanism in the Covid recovery package. Would you rather like the other EU members to give in, for a faster recovery of our economies. Or should they rather stick to the mechanism in the package? Keep up your protests. Greetings from Germany. Much love to 🇭🇺 🇵🇱.

[@imtired7682]

The saddest thing is, there are a lot of countries with loud protests but they don't get its attention, or gets attention too late (like in this case)

[@isaacvazquez627]

Black lives matter protests are more important than women's rights. At least Polish women are not strangled to death by the police.

[@imtired7682]

@@isaacvazquez627 so stop acting selfish because all strikes that are against taking away rights are just as important.

[@lillexus5589]

Polish national protest didn't get any news coverage at all throughout Europe a few years ago aswell, not new in any way.

[@adolfknitler1289]

@@isaacvazquez627 bruh BLM is a joke. really, the only thing blm does is making even more people dont like black communities in usa cause of all the vandalizing. btw protests caused BY A DEATH OF A CRIMINAL, really says a lot about us of a. blm is not about helping blacks anymore, its about discriminating every other race. ironic, isnt it? anti-racism organization is racist.

[@emilijuspoviliunas6009]

@@imtired7682 I don't wanna be that guy, but I'l have to say it. If women want the right to abortion, why don't they just take birth control pills or give their partners condoms? After all, that's better than murduring a baby

[@cherubin7th]

Murder is not a human right

[@franek_3742]

since when abortion is murder

[@minecraftminek688]

@@franek_3742 od zawsze aborcja jest zabiciem człowieka z bijącym sercem

[@franek_3742]

@@minecraftminek688 XDDD człowieka?

[@franek_3742]

@@minecraftminek688 idz dalej nagrywać minecraft, zamiast odmawiać kobietom praw do decydowania o własnym ciele minek

[@minecraftminek688]

@@franek_3742 dziecko w brzuchu matki jest osobnym organizmem

[@Pyrus425]

I don’t see how the “abnormalities” exception is anything but eugenics. Even if your pro choice, you have to concede that “abnormalities” is the most evil reason to have an abortion.

[@FiftynaPol]

Thank you for letting us(TOFU Media) contribute!

[@Alice12337]

Thank you guys for gaining us so much attention, hopefully one day everything will change for better !

[@dont9178]

Don't read my profile Picture :)

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

@@Alice12337 If for the better means "letting abortion cases of where the children are deformed proceed, but rejecting all other forms of abortion", then I agree with you. If dehumanization and continuous eradication of fetuses by frivolous women is seen as "better", then I'd have to respectfully disagree.

[@Alice12337]

@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 Thank your for sharing your view on the topic. I’m not trying to get into a discussion, by “better” I simply mean the whole situation in my country with the ruling party ;).

[@Kamila.k]

@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1" frivolous women" nice tactic to dehuminize and minimize important needs of women by simply calling them frivolous, you must be very limited mentally to think abortion is form of contraception for lazy women, no one sees it this way other than people like you who would rather humanize a developing fetus than developed woman, fetuses aren't being dehuminized, they simply aren't human yet, you can go and cry over the fact that others don't recognize fetus as human with rights but that's your problem

[@jjvivo378]

you should never impose your own religious beliefs on others. religious freedom stops the moment you prevent someone else from doing what they want in the name of religion.

[@lucylu5241]

But they are non religious people who disagree with abortion

[@thomas.thomas]

You just imposed your moral believes onto religious fanatics. Why don't you call it like that? It is hypocritical to say you don't want others to force believes onto others but force them to not pursue their believes fully

[@LazyAndFabulous]

Religion wasnt even meant for politics, its supposed to be teachings not force them to do it. Many leaders used religion just to get more votes.

[@Mikezzz749]

You are imposing your religious views. Your view is saying that womens' "rights" are more important than a child's rights. The right to murder--that is your religious view.

[@markk7311]

@@thomas.thomas man you are slow. you just did some serious mental gymnastics. he didnt impose anything on religious fanatics they would be able to carry their own baby to term. additionally their beliefs are to deny the liberties and freedoms of others.

[@coax5975]

Wishing all the best to Polish people.. from Serbia 🇷🇸❤️🇵🇱

[@autohobby9577]

Keep strong with Russia slavic brother (Слава роду). On the West Europe and in Poland communism is rising again.

[@coax5975]

@@autohobby9577 same with Serbia, we’ve been struggling for years.. people stealing our culture and our land, country is falling apart. But we must support our Slavic brothers till the last breath. So, Слава Роду, поздрав од Србина 🇷🇸❤️🇵🇱

[@coax5975]

Also Happy New Year brothers

[@autohobby9577]

@The Alchemist Polish nationalists never agree for your "concept". You don't know how many Poles love their homeland. Now we have not enough power but day by day we become stronger. We will fight for our freedom and homeland forever. Polexit soon will be AMEN ✝️☦️

[@autohobby9577]

@@coax5975 And for you I wish happy New Year. I dream about Great Slavic Union. We are the biggest ethnic group in Europe. We must keep together Slavic brothers

[@clueless3120]

Ngl I agree with Poland’s original laws kinda but there can definitely be leeway. I think under no circumstances should abortion be fully banned. That just seems a bit too authoritarian

[@alfrangomes454]

i liked both laws, the first one was a little bit liberal, but still good

[@pharos670]

Majority of poles thinks the same. Most of both conservatives and liberals support original law

[@FiveBangers]

Galactic Federation: "Are you guys ready?" Earth: "naaaaaaa"

[@topg2820]

"Galactic federation is when you scrap abortion"

[@MrDinodane]

Naaa we are the type of species that would rather chop up our unborn fetuses to escape responsibility.

[@jamesdeerwood146]

@@MrDinodane How can you chop it off if its not been born yet? It's still in the womb.

[@SomalieDXB]

Heath Sanders, that comment is heavy!

[@alexls1923]

Earth: “can you do me a favor and just invade us already?” Galactic Federation: “that is against our code as a peaceful government” Earth: “with us there is no peace”

[@jameskenny8821]

Breeching Covid restrictions is severe in Poland. People are angry that the government would make a drastic change in law when people are barely allowed to protest.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

“When the people fear the government theres tyranny, when the government fears the people there’s liberty” ~Tomas Jefferson The people of Poland have the right to rise up against authority

[@donpecz1584]

Right to protest is actually guaranteed to every Polish citizen. Right now it is forbidden to organize them, but not to attend them. People get finned for that, but courts invalidate those fines. Problem is that head of the ruling party took control over police, which became progressively more aggressive towards peaceful protesters. TThey even started sending unmarked officers with batons into crowds or tear gassed opposition MPs.

[@e3nethan910]

@@donpecz1584 Just like tRump Dump in Stateside, right?

[@northernfoxtraveler9646]

Nobody should tell you what to do with your body

[@xxvxxv5588]

So anyone can not wear a mask?

[@justme-hm1ju]

i’m embarrassed as a polish person

[@knight8675]

Why ?? This law is good

[@realkampo]

@@knight8675 i dont know, maybe he’s embarrassed that his own country is losing legitimacy and becoming less stable? Maybe that’s why he’s embarrassed?

[@bartek1887]

@@knight8675 A lot of people will disagree

[@knight8675]

@@bartek1887 what do u think

[@blari2604]

Don't be It's the law and justice party and their supporters that should be embarassed of themselves.

[@DenysDovhan]

I would love to see a video about Belorussian protests. They have been raging since August.

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

I honestly hope they can get rid off Lukaszenko

[@szczypior2714]

For me, the difference between the two is that Belarus seems like a lost case. Poland is crumbling, but it can be saved. Just spread the word. Don't let us fall like Hungary or Belarus

[@elizabethmalinovskaya1612]

@@szczypior2714 Don’t diminish the power of Belarusian people and protest. 27 years of rule could not disappear over night. People are tortured by the police for their political beliefs and accused for years in prison.. University professors students, workers, old people are under political persecution(They’ve detained a 72-yr old man!!!) Still the people of Belarus fight for their freedom. Don’t doom the future of Belarus, it doesn’t help anyone.

[@benas_st]

@@elizabethmalinovskaya1612 Жыве Беларусь!

[@zimbu_]

Much more difficult to get footage. Even when the protests have been women only, the police have responded with violence. People who know when and where the protests are going to be are scared to talk, and there's a serious risk of Lukasenka's goons ending your life going in as foreign reporters.

[@subira8518]

7:46 Extra late, but I love the fact someone went protesting in unicorn pijamas

[@pieskobi943]

@Lechite you can't murder corpses

[@cammyman32]

@Lechite cry about it

[@alexmason7393]

This is why there should be a separation between church and government

[@TheLuxGuy2018]

you can count on right wing ideologies to eliminate your rights

[@chilldude30]

Definitely

[@sriyasodharmma4021]

And left wing ideologies to eliminate whatever's left.

[@dominics.8796]

@@sriyasodharmma4021 What would the left want to eliminate?

[@snakearekat2634]

@@sriyasodharmma4021 explain

[@thekotzbrocken4437]

@@dominics.8796 freedom of speech

[@zofiele]

I am from Poland and I have to admit, the situation is truly awful. I am a Catholic, in my 20s, and the perspective of delivering a child simply scares me. It's not like making reproduction laws stricter will increase the amount of births. It will simply make women paralyzed. Thanks to all of the protesters on the streets. I am totally with you.

[@kevjtnbtmglr]

Please don't give money to Catholic church. If you study your scripture, in no part does it say you should.

[@xavier.abraham]

Zofia, You should also check with your mother, if it scared her to bring you forth into this world. How did the world turn upside down with just one generation ?

[@waltzraghu686]

@@xavier.abraham The problem is, the bill is aiming to ban abortions concerning fetal disabilities. If childbirth is fatal to both the mother and the child, isn't it dangerous to withhold such an abortion?

[@suprajasaravanan6500]

@@xavier.abraham She has the right to feel how she wants to feel about childbirth. Childbirth can actually be deadly in many cases, and many women do have long-term complications from childbirth - a quick Google search can tell you how dangerous it could be. Her views are justified. And who knows? Maybe her mother was a little scared. Only Zofia can tell.

[@xavier.abraham]

@@waltzraghu686 Now, from a medical science viewpoint, can you help me understand, if delivering the child without aborting the child is fatal to mother and child, how is abortion, a more complex medical procedure, less fatal ?

[@peepeepoopoostudios3887]

Quite based . Making baby murder illegal

[@yvonneetienne871]

thank you so much for reporting about this. It didnt got any attention in this year...

[@ajaysinghrathore1940]

Lot of countries are having protests against government beacause they are misusing their powers. These are the most challenging times for democracy.

[@bri1085]

These aren't challenging times for democracy, these are challenging times for Liberal democracy to be more specific.

[@adamkamieniarz9223]

Democracy is THE problem in this case, Law and Justice is biggest political power in Poland, they win all elections and act out the will of their conservative electorate. We don't need democracy, we need true liberation, we need the government to leave us, our bodies, minds, and property alone.

[@ImaMfon]

Could you guys do a piece on the END SARS protests that occurred in Nigeria? Or any of the many protests occurring in different African countries right now

[@olopolo4628]

You will see it will Africa next it try create world revolution

[@hanasikova8634]

One episode of the Today Explained podcast (from Vox) was about END SARS, a very well done one

[@SalihSabir]

@@hanasikova8634 you are in the know 💕👉

[@abcdefxyz2708]

why isn't this more liked?

[@iggysixx]

Hana Šiková Yes, I was going to say exactly this. I was thinking "how do I know what end SARS is?".. And then I remembered seeing the piece on Vox recently

[@AleksanderKazecki]

For anyone wondering, yes, the ruling has been officially implemented after all. Carrying out an abortion because of fetus abnormality is now illegal.

[@ilikespaghetti4458]

​@MlodyPartyjniakWhen I'm in a most obvious bot challenge and my opponent is you 😨😰

[@manikakhatkar324]

This is the reason cyberpunk is having so many bugs

[@KDH-br6hy]

🤣🤣🤦‍♂️

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

“Law” and “Justice”

[@lucylu5241]

Its justice for the baby soooo... 🤪

[@ronieerc7796]

@@lucylu5241 What baby? You mean dying fetus without nervous system?

[@stephanideleon7215]

@@lucylu5241 imagine caring more about an unwanted fetus than the breathing, walking, feeling, struggling woman in front of you.

[@stephanideleon7215]

its so ironic how most of the parties using that kind of words, always end up being the worst of the worst.

[@lucylu5241]

@@stephanideleon7215 fetus is human too. It will walk , speake and eat like that woman. You just don't understand basics of biology. Im done with this argument. Bye

[@ashazhussain5828]

Vox HAS to cover the famer’s bill protests.

[@aratichoudhary2301]

@@samkar2212 google Indian farmers protests

[@aayandadan9340]

@@samkar2212 In India, the government passed a law back in 2019 that allowed instant citizenship to everyone except muslims and arrested anyone who protested against them, now, they passed a bill that virtually allows large corporations to deal directly with farmers and decide the price of crops and when the farmers are protesting, the government is tear gassing them and hitting them with water cannons in 3-4 degree Celsius weather.

[@shaktisingh2773]

@@samkar2212 the ongoing farmers bill protests in India.

[@prajjwalshuk1a]

@@aayandadan9340 when people have 0 knowledge of Indias history and promises made during the 1947 partition .. they just dive straight into religion thing to defame a country .. go read about Citizenship laws before this law and understand the complexity .. then make conclusions on KZbin comments

[@Rio-ke9he]

They won't, india is already a "democratic" country.

[@flannel_punk]

that's why u never vote for far-right or far-left parties

[@Kakarol9]

The ruling party (PiS) isn't far right. They are national conservative and have majority in parliament. In Poland far right movement is ONR.

[@flannel_punk]

@@Kakarol9 thanks for clarifying!

[@morelstrike]

​@@Kakarol9 PiS isn't even on the right when it comes to the economics, nobody major really is...

[@halokora7302]

This is just a shame , I feel disgusted. My mom fought like many others back than for freedom,for freedom and democracy. And this politicians just step on that what our parents fought for.

[@gamervibes6454]

Freedom can only be achieved within the strict confines of a cohesive group with strong sense of destiny and purpose, this liberal utopian notion of democracy and individual freedom only leads to deracinated nihilistic people devoid of identity or meaning, it also allows for subversive elements to take hold of a society at the top and then enforce their rules top down, lobby and coerce the government using the power of finance of their multinational trillion dollar corporations so that they can enact tyranny for their own individual profit. And you dare rebel against them, they are gonna set the rabid indoctrinated masses against you and your cities are gonna go up in flames. Take notes from the USA.

[@halokora7302]

@@gamervibes6454 just asking, how much do you know about the history of poland ?

[@gamervibes6454]

@@halokora7302 I am making a general statement, nothing specific about Poland, those processes however only go one way, Poland will be no exception if it goes down that route.

[@kasparkane]

@Cringe2Win oh noo i just killed a sack of nerves

[@dinkyeepy]

Me, a Polish person who moved to England: tf they doing over there-

[@majuicek]

ikr same

[@whatthefrickbro]

Saving life is what they’re doing

[@lionelchilton2124]

@@whatthefrickbro it just doesn't make sense

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

@@whatthefrickbro more like introducing dictatorship.

[@allaboutmika]

@@whatthefrickbro if ur a guy u cant determine a woman’s body.

[@lucacollalti2520]

As an Italian, I am painfully aware of what it means to be ruled by wannabe dictators and religious fanatics. The protest you are conducting is most inspiring and, for what matters, I send you love and support and wish you luck.

[@martapietkiewicz6612]

Thank you for your support!

[@SailingSeignior]

@@Thesamurai1999 Lol. What is a radical liberal position? “Everyone deserves fair treatment!” Such a radical statement.

[@KDH-br6hy]

@@SailingSeignior lol

[@moraw4121]

@Alvaro Moran any radicalism is a threat to freedom.

[@justice8718]

Luca, this protest is literally funded by the jesuits and the other people running your country. They’re attacking Poland for rejecting their subversive religion and white genocidal practices. Don’t be foolish.

[@izzyhoulton6273]

And who created these laws...cough cough...men

[@alexcarney4811]

Good, let polish standards light the way for what used to be western standards.

[@timelapse497]

It also “used” to be standard to give the death penalty for petty theft in the U.K., does that mean it should be used now? No... argument of traditionalism leads to an ill progressed society and backwards thinking.

[@ezpz439]

Braindead spongebob

[@alexcarney4811]

@@timelapse497 its about a mixture of the two, and you cant deny somethings are just bad, just because something is "progressing" it doesn't mean anything of value. and for the time the death penalty for theft was justified, now not so much hence the change in law for the better, I see no paralels here.

[@reymundalagos9889]

*watches intently as a Filipino with no abortion policies*

[@rockinresurrection6542]

You got some other problems though

[@ThisIsNotAhnJieRen]

Yeah. Abortion what?!

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

@Elliot Witt aka Mirage I think what he meant to say is that the Phillippines have much more severe problems than abortion laws, especially with Duterte in power.

[@drejade7119]

@@Thor.Jorgensen it's not exactly about Duterte in Power. Just that there is still no abortion in the Philippines. And wow, Poland's abortion law seems to be the best form I can find.

[@Thor.Jorgensen]

@@drejade7119 Escuse me what? So you're unaware of the mass killings Duterte has been committing? About the absolute power granted to police? About the police's ability to execute people without a trial or jury? And Poland now has the most awful abortion law in Europe.

[@Terra-Antares]

Abortion being illegal/restricted is definitely a sign of a country being under considerable religious influence. The Philippines has abortion illegal and religion has high influence in governance here.

[@nirbhaygurjar7015]

That's what I was going to write.

[@eruno_]

I am happy that Ireland in the last decade managed to overcome religious influence on government and public

[@matteusgreyling7074]

Well the majority of Poland is in fact Christian so majority rules

[@SailingSeignior]

@@matteusgreyling7074 So it’s okay for majority Muslim countries to persecute minority Christians then?

[@matteusgreyling7074]

@@SailingSeignior are those countries democratic?

[@0wl_777]

Democratic Poland starts acting totalitarian USSR: ironic

[@anubratabit3027]

6:36 Same here in India.

[@nourahmad538]

Imagine how urgent of a case it must be for you to go protest in the midst of a global health crisis. Props to you, Poland!

[@ThePeopleSing]

Yes, masks and social distancing are not nearly as important as aborting fetuses.

[@polandman4913]

@@ThePeopleSing I think from a Libertarian POV, the risk of someone's rights being trampled should be enough to fuel anyone's outrage to take the streets. Happened in Hong Kong, the US, Belarus and now Poland.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

That's how totalitarian regimes come to power, during or after major crises, through the back door, when everybody is looking the other way.

[@Abdullah-fp4vu]

@@GholaTleilaxu wasn't the party a upholding polish identity calling Islam a barbaric religion,barbaric people.Enjoy your right winger party.Yes,I know Muslims aren't perfect but Islam is.We love all of them.We don't want war or do any mischief to anyone.please spread love and peace. -From a muslim woman

[@Skogdust]

@@Abdullah-fp4vu tell this to this French teacher who was decapited at school.

[@Zero-ix4up]

Nationalism seem right until you have no rights

[@VanHugaDong]

Same with Communism... ;)

[@lrgr1518]

@@VanHugaDong not completly

[@grinchussy]

@@VanHugaDong nationalism isn’t a fundamental component of communism. The goal of communism is to create a stateless and classless society that is internationally focused, so nationalism isn’t possible as there is no state to have nationalism for. Theoretical Communism has never really effectively been created, as in practice, it has only manifested as left wing authoritarianism (though Marx’s ideologies are actually Libertarian left).

[@zsomborbaka3556]

You are very right! Sadly, many people can't understand this. They are mostly from the democratic west, and they have every right, so they long for less right somehow.

[@ar2042]

Or when you can't afford food or rent. Then all the chest beating about your country being above all goes away pretty fast

[@TrailerParkPolak]

Jesus help us :( its not about corona or even abortion.. its about freedom! Dont let them take it.. poland im praying for u ♡

[@matthewbarymow4402]

Dziękuje! Thank you!

[@BigSmoke-xh5hi]

Abortion is wrong

[@tay_plays489]

I'm sure Jesus loves abortion...nice meme

[@alexandergreco872]

lol abortion goes against the gospel

[@alfredjohnson3642]

Exactly the freedom to live from that kid vs the "freedom" from a women to stop killing another human

[@marilike]

I live in Poland but during pregnancy decided to move out due to fear of not receiving 21st century medical care and rights.

[@zepter00]

Polish medicine is very good...but rights are different story

[@rafakrakowiak2719]

@@zepter00 : A potem dziecko nie będzie miało aktu urodzenia.

[@rafakrakowiak2719]

@@zepter00 : Sorry. My mistake. This wasn't for you.

[@tomaszzalewski4541]

Nah, better to return to medieval times - because that's what our government wants

[@Katu3572]

Good leave Saule

[@maxenetti9608]

I am ashamed of my motherland by a long time now. But this is the final blow.

[@SarcasticData]

@Shhreyas Kairoli As an American, I say: don't give up hope. Progress is not always 3 steps forward. Sometimes it's 1 step back, 2 forward. Change for the better happens, but it happens slowly.

[@maciejjanicki1136]

​@@SarcasticData actually, Poland takes 3 steps back and then ... takes another 3 steps backwards, and again, and again, for last 5 or so years.

[@jonizymberi6787]

Good, Leave and go to America they have Biden now. Europe is changing American style liberalism is dying and the "far-right" is growing.

[@pako184]

Don't dare you blame this on your motherland, or the people living in, let alone the beautiful culture. This is fault of the people who's ideals are nothing related with our country but with money to fill up their stomachs and turning our government into playhouse.

[@FacelessQueenie]

@@pako184 Clearly the ideals are related with the people since 21% of people polled DISAGREED with the right to abort. Plus a majority of voters literally voted in the party. The problem is with the people who voted for them too, they caused this.

[@98painkiller]

I love watching non-polish news about this topic, feels much better as an independent source/3rd party.

[@e3nethan910]

A zwłaszcza tvpiss i jak to się nazywa? TV Trwam?

[@Miki_Naz]

Every news regardless if polish or foreign, have their own agenda, and Vox tends to go really far left sometimes. That being said, in this particular video, they did a very good job at presenting what is happening and why people are protesting.

[@queeng508]

@@Miki_Naz far left? you mean far left compared to the usa's standards/political spectrum, right?

[@e3nethan910]

@@Miki_Naz That's because Vox is composed of only sane and educated people.

[@98painkiller]

I actually don't have cable or any other tv media. We use only the internet.

[@whomidity3953]

The polish have fought off everything that was thrown at them, the government should give the citizens what they want for their own safety.

[@ignacyzukowski2976]

Polish goverment doesnt care about citizens they care about religion and money ;((

[@sztaborn8140]

This government is really corupted at this point, Kaczyński is firing everyone that even think about something not in his way

[@whomidity3953]

@@sztaborn8140 that's just, bad.

[@mohdadeeb1829]

@@ignacyzukowski2976 What's wrong with caring about Religion? Anyone who is religious without being racist and sexist is big go go.

[@omaronnyoutube]

MALAY SUBTITLES Part 2 of 2 05:51 Dalam menghadapi tunjuk perasaan, pemerintah telah menangguhkan langkahnya 05:54 itu akan menjadikan pemerintah berkuasa. 05:56 Pada video ini, tidak jelas kapan, atau jika, mereka akan melakukannya. 06:01 Tetapi protes ini adalah mengenai bagaimana keputusan ini disatukan, 06:06 kerana mereka mengenai keputusan itu sendiri. 06:08 LEMPART MARTA: "Ia bermula dengan pengguguran. Sekarang kita berjuang untuk kebebasan, untuk segalanya." 06:11 Untuk kedaulatan undang-undang. " 06:13 Di luar Poland, dunia menyedari. 06:16 Organisasi antarabangsa berhenti menganggapnya sebagai demokrasi penuh. 06:21 Dan perubahan pada sistem perundangannya telah membahayakan keanggotaan Kesatuan Eropah Poland. 06:31 30 tahun yang lalu, Poland dengan penuh semangat menganut demokrasi. 06:35 Hari ini, parti pemerintahnya berusaha menipu institusi demokrasi negara yang memihak kepadanya. 06:42 Dan orang-orang yang berjuang untuk melindungi mereka. 07:04 "Walaupun kerajaan ini bertanggungjawab untuk memusnahkan 07:10 semua alat demokrasi yang ada dalam Perlembagaan kita, 07:13 anda masih mempunyai bangsa, warganegara di negara ini, 07:19 yang memikul nilai demokratik. "

[@mariaadamek5805]

Thank you so much for trying to spread the word. 🙏❤️

[@jellyfesh7517]

What

[@druganema8219]

Tak penting la benda ni

[@omaronnyoutube]

@@mariaadamek5805 The pleasure is mine.

[@kev501]

what is up with politicians and religious men alike wanting to tell women what to do with their own bodies

[@leahnpieterse916]

They can do with their body whatever they want, if they have so little respect for themselves. But the human growing inside of them is not their body!

[@mopozuJIko]

@@leahnpieterse916 Are you saying that several kg of bacteria living in your gut is not part of your body and you shouldn't have the right to decide what food they get and how they're treated? Because until the moment the baby is delivered and can function on their own it's still a part of another organism that can do whatever it likes. On the other note you're not saying that children should be able to decide everything for themselves until they are of age, are you? Then why an unborn fetus should for some reason have this right?

[@marcinpodsiadlo4178]

Their own body? since when is a child part of womens body???

[@lessonslearnedinlondon5011]

They just want to protect the rights to life of the unborn. They want to protect the lifes of those who don’t have a chance to protect themselves. They don’t have any interest in telling women what to do with their own bodies :)

[@danielaschwarz6277]

@@lessonslearnedinlondon5011 if they dont trust in pregnant women doing decisions how can they trust in em raising a child?

[@patrykskibinski4112]

Thank you for this video. Im 19 and polish, and I've been feeling like nothing can help us anymore, because manipulation served by Law and Justice in national television station really blinds a lot of old people, who doesnt know how to use internet, so they think that nothing wrong happens and vote for them in elections. Seing that other countries start to recognize our terrible political situation really gives me hope!

[@Filip-uw9jp]

I lost all my hope, I’m only thinking about finishing my high school and leaving immediately

[@coolpanda558]

@@Filip-uw9jp If you’re leaving don’t come to the US. The right wing party here is working to end abortion rights here.

[@business2075]

@@coolpanda558 I think only about 22% of the US is registered Republican. They won't end abortion rights.

[@mix3k818]

@@coolpanda558 Don't worry, the GOP has mostly packed their bags.

[@patrykskibinski4112]

@Dylanrules22 I used to be catholic too and I understand your opinion, but I think that you shouldn't expect people to behave as if they believe in this spiritual being that you do. Existince of these fetuses has no impact on your life, it doesn't hurt your life in any way, so it's not your problem what their parents decide to do. Personally, I think that we are just another species on Earth, not something singled out by any creator, so life of something, that is not even concious, isn't more improtant than these adults' lifes.

[@wiktorjachyra1869]

It's even harder because world media doesn't cover as many topics to the rest of the world about central and Eastern Europe.

[@robertdowneyjr7903]

True i have never seen any thing about your region in india they only show news about uk france spain italy and germany

[@wiktorjachyra1869]

@@robertdowneyjr7903 it's honestly anoyying....I have a friend the genuinely asked me if we have cars in Poland🤦‍♂️...they barley talk about Poland when learning about ww2...and they also have no idea about Polands history or how much they actually contributed to the world.

[@optimusmikey]

those 3 reasons are the only reasons abortion should be used for

[@coasterhockygamingboy9549]

I agree 5000%. Abortions should be illegal with the exceptions of those rules.

[@joannejo37]

No.

[@joannejo37]

@@coasterhockygamingboy9549 No.

[@Hwje1111]

@@joannejo37 yes

[@shimnakt955]

Theocracy = end of women rights

[@shimnakt955]

@Μαριος Μεργουδης please show me a religion which gives equal rights to both men and women

[@amindegoat2363]

Tell that to Middle Eastern countries

[@j.p.sumando56]

@Μαριος Μεργουδης Yes, everything has exceptions, but I still don't support Theocracy, it really depends on the religion, whether they democratize the country or not.

[@thebiggestcauldron]

@Μαριος Μεργουδης I don't think it does. Every case of theocracy puts some people as undeniable messengers of God and that's always a bad thing. Every good state should be able to control it's rulers.

[@equalent]

I'd replace "woman" with "human". This also includes LGBTQ+ people and sometimes even ethnicity-based minorities

[@Akash_Xavier_Rai]

These are women changing the world. We're rooting for you. Love, India.

[@mst1269]

I’m stunned by the strict gun laws. You would think that every citizen would be armed considering their history.

[@PrimalAspid96]

These corrupt politicians know they would end up dead if they allowed firearms.

[@AnimaChora]

@@PrimalAspid96 It was put in place by EU not Poland. We still have nearly 300k people owning a gun privately.

[@andyt3233]

An abortion is not a right when you need someone else to take it out of you it's not a right it's a privilege

[@eliasziad7864]

Thigs like food and water are also privilege.

[@uzytkowniksieci1548]

Watching handmaid's tale right now while living in Poland is no longer just worrying, it s terrifying as you can see many disturbing similarities to this distopian series....

[@escopiliatese3623]

Do you also write melodrama?

[@LazyAndFabulous]

Take a look in Afghanistan, literally women aren't allowed to say their name to people who are not related

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

If the handmaid's tale had any similarities with Poland's situation, the ongoing protesters would be killed off by tanks in a couple of seconds. These laws would be strengthened and implemented immediately (they've been delayed/withdrawn) and all dissent would be crushed. Protecting life isn't oppression. At all. It's the only sensible option to take unless you're advocating from the perspective of an evil witch willing to destroy reproductive systems, the traditional family fabric, the country's moral pillars and fundamental values that keeps people alive and well.

[@Kamila.k]

@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 "protecting life isn't oppression" which life? The life of cells with no nervous system and no consciousness? Oh yeah that's what I thought so. For people like you the ideology of "protecting life" is just cover up for your own personal idea of what life is and what potential life can be, and you attribute human traits such to developing cells because for you the idea of potential life takes over any logic, let me tell you something buddy, just because you want to feel so righteous and morally high doesn't excuse you from illogical and childish way of looking at developing fetus as if it was already born child

[@ikeekieeki]

the book uses aspects of many historical and contemporary authoritarian regimes to portray Gilead. nothing in Atwood's book was without precedent in the real world

[@kubson2137]

The solution is simple: Restrict abortion for the ruling party voters, relax the rules for anyone else

[@GholaTleilaxu]

Everything is simple until the police sticks a gun into your face and you end up in the dungeons.

[@kkbhardwaj8225]

That is going to create a division in the nation. New don't fragments coming out of pulverized Poland. You must remember, the Poles elected them at first. Now, isn't it their own responsibility to deal with their representatives.

[@gaelalberto8690]

DEFUND DNC 👺

[@DanThez91]

@Shaun Kumar Not anymore they don't

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Murder is wrong, end of. You don't have a right to unperson someone just because they're younger than you.

[@deepblue1987]

This videos is much more accurate and interesting than the one you posted previously about this topic. Thank you for taking the time to cover this interesting topic in a better light; and fix your mistakes.

[@Mycenaea]

Nearly 80% of Polaks(?) against this? So the people voting for this party didn't see this coming? Throughout the years I've seen a lot of Polaks cry about Poland being seen as eastern Europe rather than western, but the main reason for that is because of your politics and conservative society. You can't expect a group of people to see you as one of them if you don't share similar worldview.

[@anthot7361]

I think the last election showed, that about 50% of the people were against it, and some of the remaining 50% turned against it after these protests. Many factors contributed to the president's win, many of them not necessarily related to the conservative views of the ruling party.

[@ckl5398]

Your mom

[@mohdadeeb1829]

@@ckl5398 is beautiful

[@sharavy6851]

@@mohdadeeb1829 -ly skilled at giving head