Why QUIET QUITTING is the BEST THING GEN Z ever Did

Quiet Quitting Tiktok has blown up in the past few months. Tik Tok users have been posting about their experiences with bad bosses, bad workplaces, and how they've quiet quit their jobs.
In turn, many have asked What is Quiet Quitting and Is Quiet Quitting a bad thing?
Quiet Quitting (QQ) can be defined as follows: Meeting your job's minimum requirements, but not going beyond. You're mentally checked out of work after you're off the clock.
"Quiet Quitting" largely came from Generation Z (Gen Z) kids, tired of their bad work environments, low wages, and bad bosses. The movement spread across Tiktok and other social media platforms quickly, as more and more young people identified with the trend, and some older boomers wrestled with the idea.
Today we examine Why Quiet Quitting has become so big and so popular over the past few months - we also address whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.
In my view, Quiet Quitting is a byproduct of decades of poor economic decisions, short sided corporate leadership, and working class burnout. Quiet Quitting, by virtue of what it is, means that workers are still collecting their paychecks, and doing the bare minimum work to collect those paychecks, but they're not getting mentally invested in their jobs. I argue that Quiet Quitters are extremely burnt out. Quiet Quitting is a byproduct of workplace burnout.
Some have referred to Quiet Quitting as Silent Quitting, because it's not technically quitting. Workers who quiet quit are really just checking the boxes of what their managers expect.
They're getting their jobs done - they're just not doing extra for zero pay. This is where you get the term "Act Your Wage" - if you're not being paid to do something, then don't do it.
I have a lot of sympathy for Gen Z and Millennials who are focused to Quiet Quit like this. Baby Boomers have beaten the idea of "hard work" into young people, but in 2022 - hard work is simply not enough. Young workers today are forced to work 2 and sometimes 3 jobs to survive. The idea of being mentally present and dedicated to multiple jobs isn't realistic.
Young people today are having troubles buying homes, buying cars, and even paying rent. The economy is doing terrible and young people are running out of options.
My argument is: If Gen. Z and Millennials can't afford homes even after dedicating themselves fully to a job, then why should we expect people not to quiet quit? Quiet Quitting can be a good thing if it means people can get paid for two or three jobs instead of just 1. Mental bandwidth is limited in 2022 and 2023. Our minds aren't limitless. We have to work smarter, not harder with our times.
The Working Class is Quiet Quitting your jobs because it's the only way to survive. Companies aren't paying out enough for people to justify complete loyalty to a single company.
Bosses aren't cutting checks good enough for the average middle class kid to buy a house.
Prices just keep going up. Corporate profits keep going up. Inflation keeps going up. The only thing that doesn't go up in any meaningful way is Worker Pay - Worker Wages - Worker Compensation.
These economic trends help to explain why quiet quitting happens.
Also, after the great resignation happened - worker burnout hit a new level. Workers who stayed at their jobs became very tired and overworked. Quiet Quitting is partially a byproduct of that great resignation that happened in mid to late 2022.
I believe that this movement is largely a defense mechanism of a stressed American Working Class. People can't justify being more productive when there's no monetary reward. Labor isn't free. Labor needs to be compensated - that's how the youth largely feels.
Some of the biggest names in media have talked about Quiet Quitting: Dr. Phil, Trevor Noah, Matt Walsh, Mr. Wonderful a.k.a kevin o'leary, joshua fluke, cnn, etc. This just goes to show how powerful this movement has become. Social media users have essentially started a digital union.
Workers rights will be fought for on social media in the next decade - that's the trend that I'm seeing.
I believe Quiet Quitting is a tool that Gen Z can use to regain leverage in the job market. Quiet Quitting is not a bad thing if used correctly. It could allow people in their 20's to have a brighter future. That's just my two cents though - what do you think?
Is Quiet Quitting a good thing?
or
Is Quiet Quitting a bad thing?
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I love you guys! Thank you for watching!
I hope you guys can appreciate my perspective here and stay polite in the comment section.
Have a good one y'all!
- Mitch

[@orange_soda_pop7679]

My dad always told me "You'll always be replaceable at work but at home, you're irreplaceable to your loved ones. So get your priorities right."

[@ethanstump]

If you actually have a relationship that cares about you sure. Divorce rates not looking good nowadays though. Even friendships seem more rare nowadays.

[@Wheredatruth_at23]

​@@ethanstumpDo you see the bigger picture now? Oh ok screw work relations I got home relations! Yea but home relations are dying or dead! Ok well I'll go make some good relationships with friends and family! Well Bob those are harder to get now because people are more jaded then ever and are in survival mode. No one wants to make new friends when they just wanna survive and protect. Dang what do I do then? That's the thing Bob, it's only getting worse The system is collapsing and will implode one day. The foundation was either wrong from the get go or has been heavily degraded. I say the latter but it's not good

[@ethanstump]

@@Wheredatruth_at23 yes, the system is slowly collapsing. many people no matter where they are on the political spectrum have lost trust not only in the current leadership, but in the very structure itself. i argue that friendship is both harder and matters more than it ever did, in these times of collapse. but when your friend all of a sudden start's talking about "those" people, maybe it endangers your friendship, as it probably should. polarization is a sad fact, but at this point i believe it's unavoidable, as some pretty fundamental things are being analyzed, and no longer "off the table", such as ultranationalism on the right, and socialism on the left. as the ancient Chinese curse that is neither ancient, Chinese or a curse says "may you live in interesting times."

[@tomtemple69]

@@Wheredatruth_at23 work relations aren't relations, its a friendship of convenience and opportunism

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

Some of the worst people I've ever known have been my family. Meanwhile, I usually get more kindness from strangers I've never known.

[@JonSudano]

My mom passed away last year from cancer. She was a caretaker for disabled seniors. She went above and beyond for her company, stayed long hours, even spent her own personal funds for the guys she took care of. Her company canceled her insurance while she was on medical leave literally in the midst of rehab and she died a few months later. Your company does. Not. Care. About. You.

[@MitchellKeahey]

I’m so sorry for your loss 😔🙏

[@tripwire3992]

That sounds like grounds for you to start a lawsuit

[@vonBelfry]

Sue. Now.

[@ennuiblue4295]

She cared more about the 'customers' than the bosses did. They don't care about anyone, all they see are the profits

[@suspiciousstew1169]

Fly high 🙏🕊️

[@Mighty_Dork]

Being called "a loser" and "not an American" by a CEO or a billionaire is the biggest compliment/achievement

[@MapleMonstr]

He's also canadian...

[@AmazingBlaze0]

@@MapleMonstrregardless the same things apply “he’s Canadian”

[@MapleMonstr]

@@AmazingBlaze0 u understand how ironic that is, right?

[@zippo7422]

Yup, that means that they're affected, their money can't solve the issue so they have no idea what to do.

[@seanowens3153]

No, no it really isn't. Aim higher you fucking moron.....on what planet is being called a loser an achievement. Honestly....

[@SamuelLestrauss-bn8yt]

In Brazil, there's a now very popular motto: "minimum wage, minimum efforts". Basically, it became quite common to hear people say that, in a way it spread even to older people. I tend to get hyper focused in whatever I'm doing, and I remember a 52 years old woman telling me "why working so hard? minimum wage, minimum efforts" that got me for reals

[@TwistedFireX]

Problem is it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. With a tight economy comes companies giving lower wages and as a result people will always be getting minimum wages (unless you’re a mega corporation). The blame is entirely on the government.

[@EvaHoshizora]

I think our culture is generally different, because we put family above all else, while the US puts work above all else.

[@NameRequiredSoHere]

@@EvaHoshizora And we're paying the price, especially older women. I know so many older woman who fell for the Helen Gurley Brown BS of "having it all" and wound up with nothing.

[@hatoruu_]

​@@EvaHoshizoraBrazil is heavily influenced by US culture tho, there's a lot of people importing this line of thinking

[@beterraba_wojak]

I was gonna say it bro

[@Yahoo3435]

How sick a society has to be to call “quitting” what is, essentially, just “working”.

[@almondmilksoda]

Very sick.

[@zeus1141]

Just working? Is not. It's not over achieving, is trying your darnest to not worry about absolutely nothing. If it lights on fire... oh well. Whereas people that work typically try to actually be liked and perform "correctly". You feel you're being underpaid? Then don't perform. Decrease your productivity to match your wage. That's quiet quitting. Much different than "just working".

[@chinojackson4505]

@@zeus1141 it’s just working.

[@chairmanmaoio9937]

Everything on DikTok is propaganda. Even the language used on their fake trends is designed to control you.

[@thefourthdymensionmusic]

its rough

[@quiet.success]

From a European perspective "Quiet quitting" is what we call "doing your job". Do not mistake hustle culture for consented slavery.

[@dorianodet8064]

Some compagnies seem to think that "above and beyond" should be given for free.

[@0ntimetaiment921]

Yes. Even though I lived in the US for 3 years, sometimes I'm still amazed at what is considered normal there. Here in Germany it's literally hard to do unpaid over hours, since in most jobs every hour has to be logged. I did it while in academia a lot. But since then I have never worked a single free hour.

[@paxpacis4274]

Am European, it depends on the company. In Europe too you have that. Especially in the startup field. But hey, they have table-soccer in the office!

[@itskyansaro]

@@dorianodet8064 If I go above and beyond in my job, I expect my Pay to do too.

[@dorianodet8064]

@@itskyansaro I agree. I've always set up the pay scheme for my team to reflect this concept. I also never had any issue to find people willing to go the extra mile when something urgent come up. And most don't even do it for the money, they do it because of their sense of duty, but getting properly rewarded for doing this preserve employee good will and moral. It's not ABOUT the money, it's about being fair before all (And the money is not unpleasant)

[@wheeliemcgee7690]

The quiet quitting isn't the problem. It's the solution to the rampant employee exploitation that's been plaguing the market for decades

[@fuzzypanda1684]

Yeah, but the problem is that constantly changing jobs, doing the bare minimum and having no loyalty is being rewarded, while loyalty and hard work is punished. This is a particular problem if you're someone who's been out of work, and can't get an interview, let alone a job, even though you have experience and are willing to go above and beyond. Then you see other people who are lazy and unmotivated getting hired at higher wages than you got and are finding new jobs easily. Sure, if you're in the group of lazy people who are constantly moving up, it's great. But if you're not in that group, it's incredibly frustrating. Trust me, I'm in that group.

[@marzenababij5148]

Thanks💙🦋💙

[@del1518]

@@fuzzypanda1684 I am 28 years this years, and already work for 6 years as staff at same company. When I hangout with friend from college (most of them younger than me), I talked about my wage and my work experience, they say that I am underapreciated (wage lower than standard). Even they can get higher wage than me. It make me wonder why company not appreciating their loyal employee by give more higher wage? make me feel unfair...

[@ninjaatori]

@@vozaviazoa These people live to work and most people work to live. Employers just try to turn everyone into the first option.

[@zaviki7819]

​@@fuzzypanda1684 Is that group really being lazy though? Is it even their fault? It's not the fault of an employee that they are rewarded for doing less, it's the companies who devalues hard work loyalty and effort because they expect it, as it stands if you are giving a company everything then you only MEET what they expect so don't expect much for you, and the unintended consequence is quiet quitting, because if my work isn't being valued for what it is actually worth, then I will simply find somewhere else. And this does really only apply if your in a position where it's what you would typically see as a long standing career where your skills are in demand which may explain the recruitment disparity your talking about. No one benefits long term from a society where less work is worth more which is why I hope quiet quitting continues and burns a hole in the wallet of companies like this the size of Texas, to give them a financial incentive to make the change necessary to properly pay people for their effort and loyalty, and subsequently this very change would end quiet quitting as a whole as it no longer becomes better financially for employees to do it.

[@UrbanTreasureHunter]

Gen X here. I think Gen Z has it right. I have spent my entire life being that worker who shows up early, stays late, never says “no” to my bosses, and always going the extra mile. It is NOT worth it. There is no reward in the end for most. Do not trust companies to have your back. Everyone is expendable.

[@jainthorne4136]

I'm an older woman and I completely support the idea of quiet quitting. It doesn't mean not doing your job. It does mean not being taken advantage of.

[@Buckshot99]

Most people have been doing that for centuries. This is not a Gen Z thing. The difference is that Gen Z are just not reliable and it goes beyond age.

[@addisonpage1]

@@Buckshot99 I’m gen z and reliable to the core. Be it a lot of folk in my generation are, but that’s true for every generation.

[@Telopres]

@@Buckshot99 I am coming before work start every day that i have to work 20 to 30 m before my work start, i wake up at 5 h 47 when i start at 7 or dont sleep for a day when i start at 19 , making sure my coworker can leave at the right hour, i am 27 and a security guard, i work for 12 h on my site . We are not all lazy and not reliable.

[@marfark3055]

If you're a security guard then by definition you're lazy.

[@niyablake]

I hate the term quiet quitting. It's a term made up by people pissed off that they can not take advantage of people.

[@dirtydaniel91]

I worked at a Wal-Mart in which an older lady on first shift had a heart attack and died a few hours into her shift. the manager who responded to the incident had someone else call 911 while he went and clocked her out. I couldn't believe what I heard, and drastically reduced how much effort I put into my job after that. They literally do not care if you die. Always put your health and family first. I also should mention they fired me while I was on medical leave lol.

[@greasepuddles6791]

I've seen people joke about that but I thought it was exaggerated. I cannot imagine thinking about the $20 at most from billion dollar company Walmart and not the person fucking dying. Thank you for sharing because even though the world is so mean I have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that people do actually do that.

[@DaemonetteLeilu19]

Sorry to hear you went through all of that. Poor lady, rip. Its inhumane how expendable we are to these big corporations. I had worked at a place where an older man passed out and management expected us to still ring up customers while EMTS were inches away. Im like SHUT DOWN OUR REGISTERS, WE HAVE 6 OTHER ONES. have some humanity

[@goatlover6958]

The West doesn't care when you die. It is actually profitable when you die because they get a big share of your inheritance. Along with other profit the mindless bureaucrats get.

[@theboyisnotright6312]

Humanity?😂😂😂. Sorry, I don't mean to be so flippant , but corporate culture is EVIL. Be sweet to each other.

[@RiggClem_14]

One time I was working outside, and passed out from heat exhaustion and my manager wanted to clock me out while I cooled off. Imagine just fainting and your manager asking you your numbers to clock you out💀

[@rayray117]

I am 33, working 9 years at the same company doing overtime and weekends unpaid and just burnt out because my boss promised me a higher position, they never hired me and I left.

[@anonmouse15]

Amazing how there's always a crisis that never seems to end, requiring unpaid overtime from workers.

[@noobatgames3321]

​@@anonmouse15 they can't force and I wouldn't without pay

[@MrJaman0083]

@@anonmouse15 Unpaid overtime is a federal crime my dude. Keep track of your hours and sue the shit out of them!

[@jont2576]

I dunno what sort of promotion or raise or title in the world could possibly make me want to stay in a place for 9 years. ......

[@jacobjb]

​@@noobatgames3321 Then they find a bull reason to fire you and you are screwed. Our system is so exploitative of the working class in favour of the small percentage that is more fortunate.

[@reidmock2165]

Watching Kevin O'Leary, a billionaire, call quiet quitters "losers" and "un-American" was truly rich. I could care less about his opinion

[@maskedshadow0965]

Honestly 🤣

[@motorsported]

Couldn't. Couldn't care less. If you could care less, then care less.

[@reidmock2165]

@@motorsported couldyesn't

[@anhbayar11]

​@@motorsported why you crying about it?

[@AHundred-ec5yq]

Word i couldnt give a 💩

[@MorbidlyObeseChell]

Productivity has risen, company profit margins have risen but somehow wages have not

[@LegendStormcrow]

You're lucky is you get a 5% raise on a job that increased to 400% work.

[@moshimeshowu747]

How does productivity get measured?

[@serval_ssbm]

​@@moshimeshowu747 goods produced per unit of time

[@luckasneo2089]

It hasnt just risen, it has skyrocketed above and beyond

[@BP-ke5qs]

*cough* labor supply *cough* Women entering the workforce and unrestricted immigration.

[@darkySp]

"If you're a quiet quitter, you are a loser. You are an un-American." Told by Kevin O'Leary, a businessman who's made millions on millions exploiting the unpaid hours and personal life sacrifices by the employees under him with the hope that they'll rise up. He sees that people are snapping out of the fear of being fired, their pay cut and not sacrificing themselves for a job position and he's scared of it.

[@danielled1720]

He is also used to more people needing jobs than there are jobs available. Now he has to go back to the last centuries way of offering benefits or people might form a union.

[@dst1311]

O'leary is Canadian/un-American

[@KingOfMadCows]

Kevin O'Leary got rich through a lot of deception and luck. He had a software company called Softkey that published learning software. He used the company to acquire developers of the learning programs, and had those developers start making shovelware to get new products out. He made deals with computer hardware companies to bundle his shareware/freeware/shovelware with their products. Kevin aggressively marketed his company, basically lying about how well their software was actually selling. This allowed Kevin to raise a lot of private funding, which he then used to buy out more software companies and had them put out large quantity of shovelware. Finally, Kevin got really lucky when he managed to trick Mattel into buying his company. Mattel were basically idiots who didn't do any research. Mattel paid $4 billion for Kevin's company in a stock merger. Kevin sold all his stocks shortly after. Mattel found out that Kevin's company had huge volumes of unsold products and customer returns. Mattel ended up losing $3.5 billion in the deal and Kevin's company brand was discontinued.

[@glorgau]

@@KingOfMadCows Go Kevin! Mattel? Caveat Emptor.

[@kkent4174]

Yeah and his crypto scamming he’s 🗑️

[@ryanjones2297]

It isn't quiet quitting, its acting your wage. Companies expecting extra work for the same pay is just as silly as employees expecting extra pay for the same work.

[@tachyontee3877]

Yep, isn't funny how these captains of "CAPITALISM" are saying it's un-American to expect to be paid extra for extra labor. These CEOs only want capitalism when they're benefit from it. Capitalism vanishes from their minds when the bill for labor comes due.

[@nimbusspacewagon]

I like that - acting your wage… that is a nice slogan… 👍🏼

[@88amona]

Thats how I've always saw it. At the end of the day, "not being taken advantage of but still doing your due diligence".

[@Objectified]

Most companies don't expect that.

[@ryanjones2297]

@@Objectified Most actually do. "going above and beyond" is almost always a metric used to determine how good your performance is. And its a negative hit if you just do your job expectations.

[@preacher5694]

I’ve been saying this for years, “company’s want loyal soldiers yet treat us like mercenaries, so don’t get upset when we change sides cause someone else is willing to pay a higher price.”

[@TheRoseBoy11]

We're not "being lazy". We're against corporate greed and working at demoralizing places.

[@deltamico]

This could be read both as ironic and at face value

[@craigjeter232]

Since I got severely injured with permanent pain I’ve given up with giving a company more than what I was hired for. Especially since the company that injured me treated me horribly after I was injured due to their safety neglect

[@UraniumChef]

True

[@LastBrigadier]

i.e: "I am spoiled and dont wanna do meany jobs UwU"

[@devinm.608]

nObOdYwANtstOWoRK .... For minimum wage.

[@maddog6542]

The term quiet quitting was coined by companies who think we should be doing more than what we get paid for. It's a scam. Stop making these guys rich on your hard back. Do the job that they hired you for. Accept the money you both agreed on. Go home and forget that place even exists.

[@cecilwindbush6047]

Amen.

[@TrippinBusa]

Can't do that when you're in the military

[@biiyen8458]

Fr and you can't keep it up in the first place anyway, something will eventually give and being the one with a mortal body doesn't bode too well on your chances

[@oditeomnes]

This is basically the same thing as when automotive company took away the streets from pedestrians by shaming them with "jaywalking".

[@saferabies]

Exactly

[@mrlank]

My mentality looking at my work after working at a really shitty job became “if I’m just a number, then you’re just a paycheck”

[@davidvargas1798]

Just lower your productivity and they can't do shit. "Working your hardest" while chillin and enjoying the free hours at work.

[@donnikthejedi2222]

​@@davidvargas1798oh they probably won't have the manpower to give everyone normal Work Hours but what they will do is hire someone that rats you out when you don't do anything XD Or train the Workers to do it for them by breeding a toxic backstabbing Environment

[@codyjacobs6899]

As a 28 year old millenial, I wish we figured this out sooner. Our generation was taught that college is the only way to succeed and now most of us have college debt and are unemployed because of oversaturated "educated" jobs.

[@Triforcebro]

Should of went to trade school like the other chunk of millennials

[@NAT-turners-Revenge]

I'm one of the *OLDER MILLENNIALS* 39yrs old and we were fed the college tropes to. Thing is: many of us the older ones got great blue collar careers. Although, I finished my degree, it wasnt until I was 27, but i got a great blue collar job and moved up

[@My_Arse]

Any tips

[@joyn6654]

I am 56, and my husband is 62, and I can remember back when we were in our 20's my husband had said, "Everyone can't be a pencil pusher at a desk, or a button pusher, so what is society going to do when there is only college people in the world and NO ONE left to do the real work that allows them to sit at their desk? It takes ALL kinds of people to keep their system afloat." Back then I laughed because i thought about how the government intentionally keeps a certain number of society down financially (aka low minimum wage for people that do the physical part of the work) so that their system would keep going. I am so glad that gen z has more brains and self respect than previous generations. 😁😁

[@codyjacobs6899]

@Karl Bayson dont go to college, learn a trade lol

[@richardpowell4281]

I'm a small business owner, never had an issue with quiet quitting. My secret? I pay my employees well, give them paid time off when they need it, allow them to make decisions important to the company, and give them a level of autonomy in their daily tasks. So I get the opposite, they voluntarily put extra time into work. They feel happy and motivated. My youngest employee 24 says its the best job he's ever worked. And the business does well.

[@sanguineregis5354]

Funny what happens when you appropriately compensate your employees for their work, isn't it?

[@Andytlp]

@@sanguineregis5354 Yeah but hes not making as much money as a business owner. He's not min maxing the wage to worker retention like everyone.

[@Its_like_the_T-Rex]

I'm happy you figured this out. I worked with a carrot and stick manager for years with nothing to come as a result. Feeling like you're getting something out of your up and above hard work is a motivator. Good for you.

[@aryannajenkins1603]

@richardpowell4281 are you hiring?

[@blove9415]

This is the way! I worked at a small town family owned ace hardware in Connecticut , best job in my life

[@slowcreep6978]

I'm 35 and used to work middle management. It was so infuriating because I had staff working 60+ hours a week making $10 an hour. I pushed and pushed for my supervisors to give raises, especially considering how much of our workforce bailed during COVID. I ended up joining the Great Resignation. I simply could not deal with the greed any longer.

[@MitchellKeahey]

Salute to the good managers out there! 🤙💙

[@minimalistvlogger3467]

what company if I can ask? thats truly so sad, but thank you for making the right choice and leaving. It's so sad how out of touch higher managers can be

[@kentloar2175]

If this was during COVID... and depending on the industry... they may not have been able to stay financially viable if they gave raises. Something to consider. Greed or survival?

[@Aetheric]

​@@kentloar2175 something to consider.. when half your workplace leaves.. and the other half picks up the slack for the same business.. its very likely the company has 25-50% more income because you have half as many people. certainly the case around here where i was serving multi-billion dollar hedgefunds. funny thing about accounting is we could see their management fees being charged by our corporation monthly. its such an ethereal example... point is.. if you're the decision maker at a company everyone should move with the tides of the ship.

[@slowcreep6978]

@@kentloar2175 We received funding from the government because we were in the health field. I literally watched the owners pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars, take lavish vacations, and purchase expensive toys while their workforce dwindled to a quarter of its original size. It wasn't only our staff that suffered, but the "participants" in our care. Competitors in the same field offered considerably more money and a better work / life balance, because they actually used the increased funding to support their staff.

[@dlicious5677]

A girl I use to work with at the hospital called me lazy. She told me that people in her country will do anything for money. 30 mins after talking to me, I saw her sitting down for her entire shift.

[@tonyp.bahama9368]

Should tell her to get on her knees instead

[@coltalbers4558]

As someone who literally was in the ER this week from a heart attack at 29 from working 100hrs a week and too much stress. I’m right here. I am fully invested in quiet quitting. I will not literally kill myself for this economy.

[@BabyHannah05]

A coworker had a heart attack and died while working, company only mourned him for an hour and right after every body went back to work like nothing happened. No one mentions him anymore…. So please take care of yourself!

[@Tre4rmCLTproductions]

I hope you are doing ok

[@esexavo]

if you prefer crying than going out getting more skills and moving to another company, you deserve min wage

[@mitchweber7868]

Can we please talk about what industry it is for the example. this is way too cut and dry, for instance when I was a mechanic oh ya you better believe there was a lot of need to go above and beyond for no compensation whatsoever.

[@GriffinsTale1142]

​@yairvaldez3728 this attitude, this is the problem. If you can watch this video and still think like this then you are part of that problem.

[@Tailstraw_xD]

I had a friend who ran the entire line, AND washed the dishes in a local restaurant single-handedly, for minimum wage. I told my chef about it and he offered him a job for a 6 dollar raise, he told his current boss he'd stay if they could match the offer from my chef. They said no, and he came to work for us full-time, and his old boss had to hire 3 people to replace him

[@RowenaSnow-px3jg]

Good for your friend AND his new boss.

[@emmajumet7367]

Dang

[@NinjaPickups]

I hate this so much about work places. If they saw how much your friend did, it would have been clear they needed 3 people for his work. If they just increased his pay 1.8x I’m assuming, they wouldn’t be in that mess. If I was the owner of that place I would fire the manager

[@Tailstraw_xD]

@@NinjaPickups The owner was just really effing miserly, and the place was a disgusting pit. I worked there part time for like a week and left on the spot when the owner asked me to cut the stinking mold and rot off a pork shoulder she found in the back of the walk-in and put "the good parts" in the soup. Thankfully, the place got shut down last year after failing a health inspection twice in a row. I hear they scored like 15\100 the first time and got 22\100 on the re-inspection a week later

[@TDOTSE1]

Man that boss is a fucking moron it's insane

[@bruceconstuble4603]

Side bar: I worked in govt for 30 years. In the last 10 years I noticed that problem or incompetent workers were getting promoted quickly. After watching I discovered that supervisors were recommending these people for promotion so they could just get rid of the problem. The end result was lazy, incompetent managers. But if you did your job well, front line managers did not want to let you go in fear they might get another incompetent person. Supervisors were actually giving bad reviews to the good workers and thus keeping their own job as easy as possible.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

There should be laws against that. A crime is unjustly harming someone else. (and not going against the opinion of politicians, those are felonies and misdemeanors). Promotion of the incompetent into management is a crime, as you are harming someone else. Not promoting excellence, is also a crime as you are not rewarding excellence.

[@dputra]

Govts are generally like that. You can't really fire a bad employee if they are permanent. But they should have promoted the good employees instead, they are stupid for putting a mediocre powers.

[@bruceconstuble4603]

@@Yuki2501-yh4ik just demonstrates the dip shits at the top.

[@wickedbird1538]

😊😊I had a boss that did this to me. Fortunately, the person hiring me was aware my old boss gave bad references to her best employees.

[@veryfrozen3271]

its like HR they hire themselves only hire women and its such a closed space.

[@hisoka6272]

Patriotism is dead, company loyalty is dead. Housing prices are through the roof, minimum wage is basically unlivable. The American dream died pretty recently; we just haven’t realized it yet.

[@user-wh5ir4fo4r]

I guess that might bother a person who values those things.

[@hisoka6272]

@@user-wh5ir4fo4r I mean who doesn’t value housing prices we all trying to live under a roof

[@loganmartin6534]

Lmao, get used to a tent like the rest of us boomer. I suggest reading up on some Eric Berne. Then go shoplift some food like me top kek

[@Rocky712_]

It didn't die recently. It died decades ago, if it even ever was a thing.

[@TheNakedRamen]

​@@Rocky712_ This

[@TravisMcMurray]

I’m a millennial. I’ve realized that switching jobs every couple of years really does pay off in a crazy good way. Since 2013, I’ve worked for 6 healthcare organizations and my income has increased literally 300%.

[@Allin1Xavi]

That’s the way to go. Why stay at a company where you’re just a mere number to them that can easily replace you anyway

[@Kavukamari]

i think it makes sense, if someone tries to lowball you, you say "look, I JUST was at a company within the last year that paid me 5 an hour over what you're offering, if I can't at least match that, why am I even having this conversation?" put the fear of god in them

[@fredswolen894]

Your profile picture though. You look weird af man. Ky

[@mattcafaro5012]

Congratulations, that's awesome! Out of interest, what kind of job do you do and did you switch job role each time you changed organisation?

[@TravisMcMurray]

@@mattcafaro5012 I’m a corporate compliance officer within what’s called in healthcare a “managed care organization.” Yes, my roles have varied with each company, and I’ve never left a previous position without demanding a significantly higher salary for the next position. That bargaining power becomes easier as you gain more experience and obtain more professional credentials along the way.

[@hush8108]

"That's not in my job description" is something I remember hearing all the time many many years ago. It's nice to see it coming back. Hold employers responsible for proper compensation.

[@tebelel7150]

@cptbennemorganexactly, they THINK. Lmao it’s funny how people let others just railroad them instead of standing up for themselves.

[@mainmanmike]

@@theMizDMA Better unemployed than working for a bozo of a boss 😂

[@mainmanmike]

@@theMizDMA If an employee is assigned to a position to which they perform the specific tasks within that position, they don’t have to do anything outside of it, because it indeed is not in their job description

[@valritz1489]

@@theMizDMA Good, because I'm not about to stick around to take the fall. If it's not in my job description, there's a damn good chance I don't know how to do it. I might not even know enough to tell that I don't know how to do it. "Hey, move that pallet" sounds simple until someone's foot gets crushed.

[@trithos7308]

​@@theMizDMAyes, asking someone to do something you are not paying them to do does make the person asking it not only a bozo, but a entitled piece of human excrement

[@reldoc]

I'm 73 years old, I work 55 hours a week, with a job described as 40 hours a week. My boss gave us a 33% pay cut because we weren't "meeting his expectations", although he doesn't give us the resources to do so. I am now quiet quitting until my contract is up.

[@-.-.__..]

Isnt a 33% pay cut illegal, because it would be in violation of contract?

[@buddymacbuddington]

Why the hell would you stay there😮

[@Just_in_case_i_die..._]

​@buddymacbuddington he says "until my contract is over" Sometimes people who need those jobs are told to sign contracts to stay with the company, and the consequences of quitting before your contract date is up can be really bad. Fines, mostly. I have a friend who's contract states they they must work for a Year before they quit or else they must pay "training cost" which is 1,500$.

[@joelgeorge3435]

Why are you working at your age? 😢

[@everfreesnarrations35]

​@@-.-.__.. I was going to say, that's illegal and they should seek a lawyer and a lawsuit.

[@ricemunchies]

My mom has told me that she fears I won’t be able to live a good and normal life in the future. She is a 50 year old woman who has to work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week and barely has time to even tel me good night by the time I get home from work. She doesn’t expect me to pay the bills, pay rent, or anything, just work, go to school, and live a good life. However with the economy going way out of our budget, it’s hard to even imagine moving out. A house is 300,000 for just two bedrooms and one and a half restrooms. To even think of getting a house by the time I’m in my mid 20’s seems like a dream, especially considering how many people are recovering from 2008 in the first place. Corporates made america worse and I stand by that. I miss the days when I could go down to a good old mom n pop shop and get a bunch of groceries for less than $100. And that was just 10 years ago too. But inflation isn’t happening anytime soon because “I can still afford gas and cigarettes”. God bless us Americans, because only demons run this country.

[@Nitzah]

My big take away from the “Quiet Quitting” phenomenon is that big companies and their CEOs are shitting their pants trying to find a way to guilt or gaslight the working class because they are fjnally seeing what happens when you treat an entire generation’s parents like shit and leave them screwed as well as no longer being able to threaten you with “you’re replaceable” because now THEY are replaceable

[@xJhns]

Great response. Everyone is replaceable, even the owners.

[@cngameygamez]

Especially at a shareholders vote when they have to explain why they aren't capable of retaining workforce and the company is sinking.

[@KijCiWOkoSuko]

Been saying that... My parents got shit on their whole lives... I was born in a time where EMPLOYERS are replaceable. Got called back into office after 2.6 years of WFH, even though the stats were better than before covid lol and even though I liked my job and did it well, the fact that the employer refused to work something out with us had shown me how much they value me. Shit, even our supervisor explained to me that the company sees it as a win if 10 of us quit and 2 get hired (German market and it's hard to find Germans where I live, Portugal). What amazed me was the disconnect between the working class and the CEOs. Here, I get a bonus for speaking German. But the Portuguese earn about 800€ on average and have to pay about 600€ for a studio apartment in Lisbon, the 3rd most expensive city WORLDWIDE 😂 not even mentioning cosmic gas prices and overall prices having risen due to Ukraine. Still see ads for the company offering a 5k signing bonus lmao guess 2 people ain't enough... So now I'm searching for the next offer, kinda feel bad for the taxpayers since I'll go on unemployment soon, but if I don't go someone else will and if I won't, what do I pay taxes for? Definitely not to finance the money laundering game in Ukraine

[@Herr_Brechmann]

facts

[@gd515051]

Not only are middle and upper management replaceable, 98% are completely unnecessary.

[@adatp]

I worked for a restaurant for 5 years, busted my ass and became a manager. Well, I was working 60 hours a week and going to school full time, so I hardly had downtime. I told my boss no I couldn't work weekends because that was the only family and husband time I had. He took my position away the next week and told me I was being selfish, so he demoted me to cook and wait tables, which royally screwed my income. When I became top cook and a kitchen manager, I asked for a raise and was told no because "I'm too good at my job and intimidate the other employees." So I took the stance of screw this job, developed a bad attitude, and stopped going beyond to help. All of a sudden, I was the bad guy and was treated horribly. They gave me shit for everything I would do even though I would do my job correctly and called me lazy when I took time off, so I looked for another job. When I put my 2 weeks in, they told me we needed to talk about my new job, and leaving was selfish. I said the time for talking is over, and I'm done with this toxic environment because I feel really underappreciated. They let me only work 3 out of my 14 days and took me completely off the schedule. I ended up getting an amazing office job where I work my hours, encouraged to take days off, amazing co-workers, got my positive attitude back and have an awesome supervisor, and much better pay

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

Glad you got out of that situation!

[@SagaContinu]

Horrible. People will take advantage of you if you work hard its bs

[@cheesedoosh]

That same restaurant is probably the same type to piss off all the workers make them quit and then turn around and bitch about them being understaffed the whole time lol

[@RainSupreme]

Thats why u never put in your 2 weeks 😂 you just stop showing up and dont answer their calls

[@Tonyscasa]

I didn’t have it as bad as you but I quit after I busted my ass for a year . I literally held down my branch by myself until new hires arrived . When the time came I got 2.2 percent increase . I quit shortly after and landed a really good office job as well. I really hope you walk back into that restaurant one day and look really nice and treat the kitchen/employees like dogs . Sweet revenge

[@corsim5997]

That moment when your boss calls you a quiet quitter for only working Monday to Friday, 9 am to 6 pm, but he only works Tuesday to Thursday, 2 pm to 6 pm

[@Kenny-o6i]

I thought quiet quitting was just quitting witjout giving any notice 😂

[@josephsimanski3192]

I’m a restaurant owner (2 locations) and I used to work non-stop bending over backwards to keep everything perfect in both places to accommodate my guests. We were open for dinner, we were open on Saturdays, it was stressful but I had to do it. Ever since covid some of our guests have become increasingly demanding, mean, and difficult to satisfy as well as lacking politeness and social skills. I have since closed for weekends, we are now only open for lunch and we still do a great business. My team is happier, I’m happier. I’ve realized that Karen’s lunch isn’t more important than our quality of life. I guess I’ve basically quite quit on myself!

[@OPGardevoir]

I wish more business owners were like you and realized that we aren't obligated to deal with awful people

[@arsyn.kolgrim]

hey good for you for doing both what’s best for you and best for your team. like the above comment said, business owners should be more like you in their approach.

[@ishyameru6232]

I strive to be like you someday

[@ry6554]

I would say it’s more quiet quitting on the customers. Along with that, the same reward is most likely because customers intentionally plan to go to restaurants, meaning the same amount of people will work around your new schedule.

[@hfortenberry]

You're one of the good guys. Kudos to you man for caring.

[@rachaelkennedy3071]

For my grandparent's generation, they graduated high school, got a good job and stayed until retirement. If an employer found out an employee was experiencing hardship, the company would slip some bonus cash to someone whose wife was sick, or whose kid wanted to go to camp, or their daughter was having a wedding. Workers were loyal because companies were loyal to their employees and their customers. Things started to shift some time in the 70's. Then, the ball really got rolling in the 80's when companies changed their allegiance to the shareholders. But companies wanted the same loyalty from the employees as before.

[@alfsleftnut9224]

I thinik its becuase thats when the people who were old enough to remember the great depression started to retire.

[@drive2160]

Yeah corporate climate only sees numbers Mind you this is an issue in all three types of systems capitalism socialism and Marxism runs into this issue and all three end up with their own versions of an oligarchy

[@altgraubart]

RK, you have the timeline right. I worked at a big industrial lab, I'll just call it BTL and when I started, the benefits were good, conditions were good, they were loyal. Shoot forward about 10 years and they became just like any other place run by a sociopath CEO. We were just tools to be used and thrown away, but they kept lying like trying to convince us that it was still like the "good old days". I found a onther job and got an enormous raise. If you want to be paid fairly, be prepared to switch jobs every 3 years.

[@southstar9931]

Capitalism boys!

[@RELAXcowboy]

This is what happens when thousands of small companies become hundreds of big companies. The "loyal" businesses got bought out by Corporations way bigger than them. It's the same reason why so many companies think there is some "unspoken agreement" that you HAVE to be at the job 15-30 minutes early and leave 30 minutes to an hour later. meanwhile you get your review and get maybe 4% when inflation is hitting around 7%. Until this "shareholder above all else" bullshit ends, this will stay an issue. It's no longer about the product and customer but more about $$$.

[@davidperry4013]

I support quiet quitting. People need to rise up against corporate greed.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

Seriously, I don’t think many of us actually have an issue with working like they try to gaslight people into thinking, we just don’t wanna sell our life away to have a barely livable wage, and wanna just have a real life not be defined by our jobs

[@orphancharmander1168]

America will get our money, our land, our food, our system, all we will take in return, is your FREEDOM. Enjoy, blessings and good luck, from the FREE Danish men & women, who seek on thing, FREEDOM 😬🇩🇰❤️ Have you GUYS, never seen Star Wars, ITS A TRAP ✊🏻

[@xposegawd9710]

@@nathanflinchum1153 see I knew I wasn’t lazy I just refuse to give my life up too something that’s not more important than my family an friends

[@bluenomadbruh]

Not just corporate. Small businesses r bad too.

[@grantduke318]

OR, people just need to realize their worth and not be a "nice guy." Every organization has to produce a profit to stay in business, unless if your organization is a government function of course. But once governments don't have enough profitable private businesses to tax, they too will have to cut spending. Simply blaming "greed" is naive.

[@Trogdor312]

I've always said that good leadership leads to good employees. I always treated my employees with respect and tried to put myself in their shoes, which in return let them want to help out more when needed. Mutual respect is a must!

[@mattshelton7423]

When Kevin says “I don’t want those lazy people working for me” all I hear is an abuser saying they only want people who are ok with being abused around them.

[@clarencep90]

😂 cuz you know he ain't going for that shit.

[@YTSylantys]

This is true from a business man’s perspective

[@alenazarovskaya9353]

@@YTSylantys so let business people work themselves hard. It’s their business, not employees

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

This is why we're switching to automation ASAP. Machines don't whine about hard work and call it "abuse". Enjoy being poor.

[@MakoTheMano]

@@RaptorFromWeegee Why are you so invested in scrolling through these comments and making yourself miserable? I see you allllll over this video get a life lmao 😭😭😭😭

[@montecristo1845]

They are trying to make “having expectations” a privilege rather than a right for workers.

[@Yora21]

That's their desperation talking. When you don't have any reasonable arguments left, panicked screaming is all that's left.

[@treysalt7795]

most of the right we have as working class people comes from bloodshed. our population is no longer willing or able to do this for their rights including in the workplace. its all apart of propaganda and the things mitchell highlighted in his video

[@roadwarrior114]

My grandad literally told me to have terrible/no expectations for clock in/clock out jobs. Like that's supposed to be motivational or something.

[@maxentirunos]

@@roadwarrior114 Ask him if that was his case, and if yes, what he materially gained in return, then simply list the things that don't exist anymore

[@TravisMcInroy]

"Quiet quitting" is what employers call it. It's actually just doing the job you're being paid to do.

[@ruthanneluvsvacuuming6653]

And it’s nothing new When I was growing up my father was ridiculed for working until the last minute The other employees stood around the time clock for about the last 5 minutes waiting to punch out He worked at Ford Stamping Plant fixing the machines All of the people who came to our house told him he was crazy You’re just a number to them Don’t do anything you don’t have to do In the long run you’ll suffer for it

[@DS-nv2ni]

This is mostly an USA problem, not uniquely, but most countries in the world don't have the same work mentality as USA, Canada, China, etc.

[@pharaoh6977]

​@DinoSauro-nv2ni yah the other country you listed don't have good labour laws either

[@luciusoflegend]

​@@pharaoh6977 I believe they intended to say that the US, Canada and China share this cultural feature, not the other way around.

[@merlinonline67]

It actually means doing minimum effort in your job, in the UK it is called the quiet resignation

[@ambstudios4564]

I would like to hear the term "Quiet firing" for those huge lay off's from all the company's that their growth decreased just 2% and needed "Serious actions"

[@Horseofhope]

Also, we should normalize talking openly about each other's salaries. It's THEM who don't want us to know who do they underpay, who earns more without being worth more.

[@leonbelmont4028]

Yup. This is basically how the whole staff at my current job got a pay a raise. Employer brought new people to work with us, turns out, not only are they getting payed more than us but also working less hours. So we all told our employer either we get the same salary or we all quit on the spot....

[@Horseofhope]

@@leonbelmont4028 hope that becomes the default outcome of such scenario everywhere. Good for you, my man!🤜

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

2 years ago it was normal. Something happened recently that basically rewound the clock on that. My coworkers stopped discussing their wages, I got fucking fired for something I do all the time, so did a bunch of people actually.

[@armagedonthe1gamer]

yeah wish that is the case around the board. If I talk about it at my company on hours It may lead to firing because of how business in my state can just fire you without a reason. Its much safer to talk about it out of the clock just because of corporate culture being so cult like, you need to pick who to trust.

[@mrj494]

@@armagedonthe1gamer It went to performance reviews. If your reviewer asked, What did you do to increase productivity, and you said. "I just did my job", they mark you as proficient. Lets call that a 3 of 5. Nobody getting the 4-5 and nobody gets the raise. Quiet Quitting gets a 2, I'm quite sure of that. 1 reserved for those not showing up, oversleeping and low job quality.

[@Upsidedowndog27]

I applied to be a delivery driver at Pizza Hut once. First day on the job I was cooking wings, pizza, cheese bread and other stuff. I was very confused bc the job description made absolutely 0 mention of cooking or preparing food. I quit after the first day and my manager was like “are you serious? This is going to look bad on me you realize that right?” And I just told her “maybe you should be more truthful in your job description instead of only talking about the delivery part. I did not apply to be a cook.”

[@chizorama]

Good on you, back when I did it we just folded boxes, maybe answered the phone if it was busy & closing duties, like cleaning & such, but there weren't many(if any) side items. I woulda told em to piss off as well.

[@user-ll6zh2bi7c]

😂😂 thank god you told that pizza manager where to go. Did you move up to subway yet?

[@factorfitness3713]

Manager: "This is going to look bad on me you realize that right?" Me: "Why would that matter to me at all? That is the very definition of a 'you' problem."

[@user-hm5dt2bd5q]

@@user-ll6zh2bi7c You must hate people that know their worth.

[@VaeVictus17]

Nah, I think you're just illiterate because everyone whose worked in pizza knows you'll usually be cooking. It also shows how little work ethic you have.

[@mrflynn510]

"Quiet quitting" is a term coined by dishonest employers trying to squeeze unpaid work out of employees.

[@waltermahovlich1962]

Spot on! It's just like the corporate class coinage of "legacy costs" for pensions that were negotiated in contracts by workers in good faith but which companies want to walk away from (and in many cases got away with it). We have to look out for ourselves as a first step. Then we need to realize how many of us are in the same boat.

[@ginichimaru001]

If a company cancels it's pensions and cheaps out on it's own Insurance, did it ever really care about it's employees?

[@christianedwards9025]

After being abused in all areas of my work life for my first serious job from ages 21-24, including missing an opportunity to reconnect with some half siblings because of it. I've realized a few things earlier than most, even if only by 10 years at most. No one ever says I wish I worked more during their final days, no job is worth your health or sanity because at that point you'll lose it via one method or the other, and never work outside the scope of what your job description says to include local, state, and federal laws. Don't volunteer for nothing, and the power of no is important. Your phone will become your extended leash, learn when to answer it, ignore it, or don't even reply at all. Emails don't need a reply, and if it's something that HAS TO BE DONE and it's work related, then it HAS TO BE PAID FOR. Don't get salary jobs, they own your time for that fancy wage, don't accept responsibilities you're not being paid for. Don't over perform, if you have already made this mistake like I did I few times, cut back slowly so they don't notice as much. Some of your older coworkers aren't old and crusty, or mean and hateful. Some might be, but most were once you in their prime, they too were lied to and have had to live with the realization longer than they'd care to admit.

[@ihouseu3340]

Glad you realized that. Also make sure you ask those same questions during interviews. You'll easily screen the employers who want to abuse you and the ones who think they can own you and your time during anytime of the work day. I've made interviewers uncomfortable asking these questions and followed up with why they didn't agree and it made it much easier to decide if I ever wanted to work for them.. I did not. I am at a much more accepting and comfortable place. Describe your skillsets, your expectations from the company, and explicitly state your boundaries for a healthy working environment. You will see people's intentions almost immediately in a room with just them directly in front of your face.

[@christianedwards9025]

@@ihouseu3340 exactly.

[@Nick1921945]

I got my foot stuck in a turn style gate, going into work, and hurt my ankle and wanted to go home because i could barely work with it with how painful my ankle was, as a janitor that has to walk 3-7miles a day, almost non-stop. The manager told me to do my portion at the first building and if i wanted to go home i could, and if i was staying home for the injury, just let them know beforehand. They didn't remind me that i had already 2 days lost, due to a cold, from 2 months before, and they fired me after taking a day off for my ankle. They didn't have any security cameras at the entrance, didn't warn me about my days, and didn't tell me that staying home from an injury that i got from work equipment was going to count towards my days missed, didn't care that they were always under staffed. 99% of employers really don't give a fuqq about anyone and will gladly shoot themselves in the ass just to dance to their own tune.

[@farronblaze2952]

Did your manager know this and not tell you, or were they in the dark too?

[@allenson321]

Loyalty gets you nothing in the workforce because for loyalty to be fruitful it has to go both ways and companys are anything but loyal.

[@xxsqf]

Most companies will replace you in a week and forget you in a month

[@smileychess]

I am in the rare situation where my boss actually appreciates what I do and treats me accordingly, including profit sharing. Know what that's gotten him? Loyalty. Ten years. I make less than I could if I kept job hopping. But he's earned my loyalty and it has given me stability and comfort. Videos like this remind me to appreciate what I have, because apparently many people aren't so lucky.

[@AdhvaithSane]

@@smileychess You got it.

[@Historyguy-xu5ht]

See, larger workplaces this works. But right now at my job, I’m the weekend opener. I work my ass off to help my boss who works every day I don’t work, 60 hours a week on average. No OT. And he is gonna get a bonus, and he does have benefits, but quiet quitting always screws someone else over at my workplace. And yeah sticking it to the amn is cool and all, but solidarity forever

[@Rahnonymous]

That's why the few bosses who give a damn should be treasured.

[@Nick84525]

It's time for the younger people to stand up against all these corrupt workforce companies. People need a work life balance

[@organizm420]

been saying that since gen x... good luck

[@witchy90210]

@@organizm420 and its going to happen. Because if companies dont adjust they will hve no one working for them, and in turn no one will be able to buy anything. The thing is that now that CAN happen because all the old people are retiring, and also if they return to work they will realize that we werent lying about how work is now.

[@sirlancegeo]

I’m glad he mentioned workers organizing online and around the world to have collective power over those who are hoarding the money. It will be interesting to see what comes about between the race to automate all work and that pushing workers to unite for some say in how the future will look for everyone.

[@Nick84525]

@@sirlancegeo the people in this country especially the younger ones have to push back against this bull crap. In Europe they have workers rights and mandatory paid vacations while the united States don't have that

[@organizm420]

@@witchy90210 a billion people in india will do the job cheaper than you will.... and they wont unionize with you... good luck

[@BuildingMakingDoing]

This makes me realize how fortunate I was to have an awful (borderline criminal) boss right out of college. It really opened my eyes as to how the adults in my life (including my own parents) failed to setup realistic expectations.

[@dragonbaby635]

Oh yea I was 17 and had an AWFUL manager. I have anxiety and at the time it was untreated so I just put up with it, too scared to say anything. My twin brother however, noticed it and threatened to leave multiple times. At one point they ended up raising our pay (bc we were siblings. Obv he'd tell me he got a pay raise and if they didn't give me one too they might lose him) and they told us not to mention it to our co workers. He spread that shit like WILDFIRE and got Arby's to raise their pay from minimum wage to $9.00. It wasn't much but now I'm 19 and I learned not to put up with that shit. Partially bc of him Although when it came to asking him (as a minor) to handle the slicer, I noticed that one and went to my mother bc that's illegal. They never asked him to touch it again.

[@Cauldron6]

I was taken advantage of at my first job with a “big” company. It taught me early that they will take all your effort and work with a smile and throw you only scraps when pressed. I learned to NEVER be able to be taken advantage of again and I’m so grateful for that lesson.

[@mcjaguilar8667]

Or do borderline satanic rituals to get and keep the job 🤭

[@williamlevy6964]

It's literally criminal what they do and what they get away with. We need to go to war with our own neighbours and teach them their place. I've seen disgusting behaviour from so called "humans" who attain "leadership" positions in work places. Privacy policies and cover ups protect them and they don't care as long as they believe they can get away with it. War is the only answer. And by war I mean fighting for rights to no privacy within the work place. Boycotting companies who are exposed for bullying until the bully if fired. It takes a community to humiliate a sadistic fool.

[@truckywuckyuwu]

My parents, single income in the 2000's managed to buy a house that was priced at 90k. Pay it off in just a few years. While raising 3 kids in it. To find anything even remotely like their home now is easily 300k.. an hour away in a small town. Then they wonder why I had no drive. Just to own a fraction of what they did, I have to work 3-4 times harder.

[@Ammiad]

I absolutely despise the fact that this is something that needed to be named, like, hello?? Doing your job now needs a new name?? Why?? "Quiet Quitting" is literally just doing your job and nothing else

[@RichardG.Obbler]

"Quiet quitting" is literally a phrase used to gaslight us into doing more than we are being paid to do.

[@TheHollowBlade]

Cant agree more. Like that dragon guy whos name i cant remember saying if your a quiet quitter your a loser.. Yea im a loser because im not doing 10x more work so you can get a bigger bonus at the end of the year and i get fuck all? Im a happy loser if thats the case. Its the same shit as "dont talk about your salary because its not professional" as a way to manipulate the way people were paid. I make 30k a year while my coworker gets 45k if talking about salary is taboo i will never find out my cowroker is making 15k more than me for the same work and the company can save some money. Anything that makes some corporate fuck more money and gives me nothing in return I will refuse to do any extra effort.

[@JTMidnightJr]

I love that the term for doing the minimum requirements at your job is “quiet quitting”. Based on the term, I’d figure that would mean doing no work and seeing how long you can get away with it before you get canned. What they call “quiet quitting” I call “getting my shit done and going home”

[@zeus1141]

But thats not quiet quitting. It's performing at your wage. If you're being paid correctly. Then yes get your sh*t done and go home. If you're being paid nicely... go the extra mile. Quiet quitting is... you're getting f*cked with pay, why would you care if they run the company to the ground? Why would you go the extra mile? Why would you try to meet performance expectations? Why do you worry if they are losing customers? You have the wrong concept.

[@sjfs231]

@@zeus1141 no, that is quiet quitting

[@MuhammadUsman-mi4jk]

@@sjfs231yeah but how does doing your job/acting your wage imply quitting? Quitting would mean trying not to do ur job in some way so just not showing up to work until you get fired stuff like that

[@jalapenopixar]

@@zeus1141 Going the extra mile doesn't get me shit. It doesn't get my dad or mom shit rather than a broken marriage, a dad that is bitterly stressed and somewhere between medium to a bit upper middle class. Rather than trying to do more in your job, it's better to make friends, make connections, switching jobs so you have a better chance of making money that is still within reasonable stress. I go to work, do my job then go home, nothing more, nothing less. I'm not gonna go the extra for some make-believe that I can "maybe" get recognized and a raise. You tell me in this day and age, how the fuck I'm I going to buy a decent house for my family? And I'm supposed to take care of everyone on top of that? I don't give a rat ass about how the higher up are humanizing their problem and they are "oh so struggle to make ends meet like the rest of the employees" while having tons of knick·knack on their body, flashing all kinds of wealth. How would you quantify paying nicely while the company could cut or sue you if you reveal your salary? Riddle me that? Going above and beyond has proven nothing but a waste of strength and health mental and physical. Bringing work home does nothing but ruin your marriage and relationship with your kids. You clearly never have to see your dad constantly drunk from meeting and trying to seal a deal on the dining table, your mom not going home every other day to take wave and wave of people in the tourist industry. And now what? My dad got replaced by some higher-up kid that nowhere near qualified for the job and got blamed for an accident on the job site that some worker go behind his back. And the company my mom worked so hard to become CEO of got sold to a guy who doesn't interested in furthering the tourist business and just wanted the company for the land it sits on. And so many people like that. Some are good enough to sustain and humor themselves while a lot of others just can't get their head above water.

[@hasturthekinginyellow5003]

@@zeus1141 No amtter what they pay you never, and i mean *NEVER* do anything more than that for which they are paying you, becuase tomorrow they can decide to fuck you over and throw you away without any notice

[@comet.x]

the newer generations have realized that if everyone just refuses, the guy in charge lose all their power and becomes just 1 guy against the rest of us

[@Yora21]

"Human resources" and "human capital" refer to the same thing, but show vastly different conceptions of what employees are to a company. For many industries, the employees are the most valuable thing about the whole company. Without them, there's only a building and a bank account. And contrary to what some company owners believe, their own abilities as managers are not that brilliant or unique. The building and the owner are often much more replaceable than an experienced and motivated team of employees.

[@rinzler666]

The internet baby, we must protect the free flow of information and free speech globally.

[@keithg460]

In the real world, when that happens, the company starts firing people and then the remaining people get back to work. If they all get fired, the company will just find new people.

[@awkwardmaddie7335]

​@Keith Grubaugh But honestly, that's not a smart business move. It takes time and resources to train new people, and production will take a massive hit.

[@BreakingGaia]

​@@keithg460 they can fire everyone and then have no one that knows how to do the job. It takes normal people 6 months to figure out how to do the job comfortably with help. Go ahead and put people to work who have to design the whole process from scratch. Most people are not intuitive and lack ingenuity. Good luck to those businesses. They will suck for years...and we are already seeing that in every industry.

[@skittlepuff]

I’ve been doing this quit quitting my whole life and didn’t realize

[@soapyfartbubble]

"We're a family!" was discovered to be a lie told to the workong class. People don't like being manipulated and shafted.

[@predictless1009]

Everytime some interviewer tells me "we are family" about their company, I am telling them "Are you some kind of sect? This is first time we see each other. Don't be cringe. I have only one family - my own".

[@pharaoh6977]

​@predictless1009 it's a mind game to make you feel like you can't let your family down. It feel worse to let your family down compared to just letting your job down. If they tell you this, RUN.

[@icesnake84]

I am family till my paycheck doesn't get bigger!

[@CorundumDevil]

"We're a family." "I will _never_ call you sibling, because I would hate to poison my concept of family with what you're thinking right now." An actual thing I said to our HR officer, and she admitted later to crying about it during a write-up. I told her that she was a heartless pig who lied in court to keep money out of the hands kf somebody they just fired for being in the hospital over heart problems. She never spoke to me again as long as I worked there. Win-win.

[@god2936]

“We’re a family:)” yeah and I’d recognize an abusive one immediately. Nice try

[@williammathis6044]

I’m in my mid forties. The younger generation has learned from our mistakes. NEVER give your all for something you don’t own or control.

[@PabloSteuer]

why? I found many great friends in my workplaces, I wouldn't have ever met, when I just gave the least amount of effort. when there's respect and fun it never felt like something bad to work harder, smarter and in general better. the worst thing about working better than others, is that the others with less productivity are generally treated not like equal citiziens.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Very bad advise you're giving to these kids. You own and control your reputation. By working hard and giving your all, you're investing in yourself.

[@wyldvigilante]

@@RaptorFromWeegee Giving your all for someone else is not the solution. He is saying and he is correct in saying give YOUR BEST FOR YOUR BUSINESS NOT SOMEONE ELSE’S business. That is sound advice. You are telling people to keep being a slave because you are too scared to strike out on your own and make your own way so you rely on someone else to do it for you so you can work for them. That’s exactly the mindset that created this problem in the first place.

[@wyldvigilante]

@@PabloSteuer Friends don’t pay the bills money does . Your emotional need to be liked supersedes your desire to be free from working for someone else as opposed to working for yourself.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@wyldvigilante I'm not going to expend too much effort in trying to explain this to a man of your perspicuity. Reputation matters. Building a good reputation is not slavery. And this isn't emotional, its just common sense. If you're reputation is for being lazy, then you'll not likely get a good job. If you're industrious, you'll earn a good reputation and therefore have a better shot at a good job. Wanna start your own business? Be prepared to work ten times harder than the guy giving his all, whom you so despise.

[@darivera4806]

I worked at a company for 7 years, coming in early, staying late, doing others' jobs. They ended up selling out and giving us all a 3.00 dollar pay cut. They reduced bonuses and stopped incentives for weekend work. I quit and went to a better place, making twice as much. It's happening all over like this even with record profits and cost reductions.

[@spunkymonkey5102]

This is THE mistake. You should constantly be on the search for a better job and always have a job backup, and you should always use that at leverage for a raise at your current place.

[@randomguyontheinternet5030]

Yeah it's just not worth it any more to continually stay at one job. Youll get paid more to work for someone else than you will be to stay. Hell some companies even pay new hires with the same experience more than they do current workers which is fucked and why wage secrecy is bullshit. If management can't back up why they're paying someone more than another, then the problem is on management, not the employees.

[@lesbokilla7]

@@spunkymonkey5102 nice i like that

[@ms.donaldson2533]

Kohl's CEO makes over a million in Base Salary alone, but I am a store level associate with previous retail and management experience who is making $14.60 an hour to be a freight unloader and team lead (with no team) of Home and Kids (more than a third of the store). If I follow my schedule, I get 30 - 32 hours a week. To make up for that I am working a 12 hour day tomorrow to get at least 38 hours to pay some bills. They are worried about "minimum" wage - they should be looking at maximums allotted at corporate levels.

[@GuiSmith]

Where do you think the most obvious cost reductions came from? 🙄 Most folks call it “consolidation” so they can appease investors with the idea that cutting back your workforce is a good idea when your client base is purchasing more actively or growing

[@GoodVibez4Life]

This is so true I worked for a company for 17 years and when I got fired and started looking for another job realized I was WAY under paid.

[@randomrud]

My grandad worked at the same company for his entire life. Started on the floor and worked his way up. That doesn’t work anymore. No workplace value your loyalty anymore and your examples are spot on.

[@jennyanydots2389]

Does he ship in his pants yet? I can't wait for when I get old enough to wear diapers in public without people being suspicious of my intentions. Dude, I'm gonna be dumping out in public on a regular basis and just smiling at whoever I happen to be starting at in that moment. The first time I locked eyes with another person while I was taking a ship I achieved the most vascular boner of my life and it lasted for like three days no matter how many times I tried to masturbate it down. All this diaper talk between us has got me all boned up over here.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yeah, but then again some people out there are just very unlucky. Wish I was born way back then lol

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@danteshollowedgrounds Is that coded races language? "unlucky"? Does that mean "the blacks"?

[@Sinn0100]

​@@jennyanydots2389 What?! Just stop. No one here is talking about race. The fact that you automatically assume "unlucky" is code for black is kinda racist itself. Thank you, that is all.

[@silentkhaos1176]

​@@jennyanydots2389 Yeah, that's kind of racist there buddy.

[@jer1776]

The way to fix quiet quitting is to pay people fairly. When I got a promotion to a senior position and a pay bump, my productivity drastically increased because I was happier.

[@michaelm3404]

Which is great, but where the cycle starts is when managers expect their supervisees to work as hard as they do. And by hard that could mean never taking time off, always working late etc.

[@Konghammer1]

The crazy part is every year they put out those earnings reports, hundreds of millions of not billions in profits. Employees ask for a 50 cent raise? Company: harrumph, we couldn't possibly afford that it would bankrupt the company, now get to work while I fly my family in a 10 million dollar jet, to a 5 million dollar home, for our 3 million dollar vacation....

[@gtox11]

Depends on what is currently making you happy. If it is more money, then sure. But in some cases, like mine, the act of "quit quitting" (aka work/life balance) is my source of happiness. I've been offered promotions and more money, but turned it down because I knew the cost was greater than the gain.

[@nicholasj.markkula3658]

A lot of companies don't even give a pay bump with promotions now. They just claim you'll be in a better pay bracket when the time comes for a raise. Then they just give you the same low % raises that don't keep up with inflation. It's crazy how greedy these corporations are nowadays.

[@wastelandr8]

The way to fix it is to not have to pay income taxes

[@ksis86]

I come from a family of overachievers, and recently my dad said one of his biggest regrets was giving so much of his time and energy to work. Even ive seen how being really good at your job gives you more responsibility and more problems that are above your actual pay grade…

[@levene_c098]

The best advice my dad has given me is to “live to work” instead of “working to live.” Instead of being a slave to a company and moving your life around work, you should be working your job around your life.

[@tiefblau2780]

You want to work for a cheating bosses *Just* *look* *at* *that* *Wall* *Street* *thing* 2:28 *Furious* Who will make my money for be to spend on Mistresses... *Not* *they* *are* *WhatCaused* *all* *this*

[@ofanning06]

That’s such a good point! I feel like I have reached a point in my job, where I am just technically one of the bottom feeders, but everybody comes to ask me for help, even management. I work in a diesel repair shop where my experience is invaluable, but I don’t want to be a manager, and yet I feel the pressure just from having to also do everybody’s job in addition to mine it feels like sometimes…

[@joshuepico75]

I think this will be one of my parents biggest regrets too, I'm just 15, but I've achieved quite a lot of accomplishments and I only had at least one of my parents thrice during my whole life to celebrate those achievements with me in the moment, the more I think about it the more I want to cry 😅

[@ninjaatori]

@@levene_c098 dude, pretty sure you have those settences switched up. "live to work" = being alive just to work as much as possible, "working to live" = working just enough so you can live the best life

[@pyrowolf681]

Honestly I agree with this. I’m a young guy but working as hard as I have been since 18 and now 4 years later doesn’t even feel worth putting the extra work. They don’t care not to mention safety. They’ll stack work on you and make you feel insignificant while setting unrealistic goals.

[@RafaelMunizYT]

I'm not even communist but seeing workers turning against big corps puts a smile on my face

[@kiyokiyoko]

thats not communism, that's capitalism at its purest form

[@FUBBA]

in communism the govt gives all the jobs

[@populisttrope9385]

The US practices corporate socialism. The capitalism is only for the workers. And they keep us divided by shoving the culture wars down our throat.

[@viridianacortes9642]

You don’t need to be a communist or socialist to be against corporate corruption. A good government is one that balances social programs and private profit/ownership.

[@hunterhall1575]

Thats democracy in action, ironically

[@xavierbreath2227]

After not getting a pay raise in the last 8 years of a job at a company I had been with for 20 years I gave my boss the “F it I quit” speech. Told the owners spoiled rich kid that “I only work for good people” to his face, hugged my coworker and walked out the door. The quiet quitting at that job was not even possible. The store would have collapsed if I even attempted to slow down or do the minimum. Walking off that job was the most liberating experience I have ever had. I dumped my ungrateful worthless girlfriend and her two useless children from another man, packed up my stuff and moved to the Pacific NW (a life long dream). Got a great job, making serious money w/serious raises and bonuses. Happy, appreciated, alone but not lonely. Best thing I ever did.

[@lalaishappyyy]

you sound like an abusive man :/ those kids did nothing to deserve the life they were placed into.

[@matthijsvandeweerd1415]

Good job dude! Good on you! Wish you all the best!

[@RafaelSorel124]

Well done, I am glad for you.

[@iang.9904]

Fuck yeah dude!!!

[@kalikiller1771]

I feel that with the Pacific NW

[@jeffrybassett7374]

67 years old and fully in support of this. Spent 27 years working for a major corporation only to slowly realize I meant no more to them than the soap dispensers in the men's bathroom. I know for certain they were more concerned about the health of the robots than the human help.

[@silverfoxchain]

This makes me so sad! I hope you are enjoying your retirement years.

[@lardal1502]

I know of a senior executive, now retired, who worked at a large insurance company. Part of his job was to seek out senior employees, who had risen up the ranks and where making a good salary, to fire them and replace them with younger people at a fraction of the salary. He had to do that part of his job very slowly and carefully so as to not arouse suspicion by the other employees.

[@ummmummm563]

​@@lardal1502 *were

[@waltermahovlich1962]

I was a scientist in industry, got laid off in the early 90's, and moved into education. I had hoped for better treatment and conditions; despite stellar job reviews after 15 1/2 years I was kicked to the curb without so much as a thank you. This culture of greed and exploitation has infected every part of society.

[@targetedplantsguy9481]

​@@ummmummm563no one f****** cares

[@dianeardolino1749]

13 years in fortune 500 company. They sold our division. The employees lost everything and the new management was horrible. After three additional mergers. I resigned.I put in so much extra time, work, and stress to grow in the company and for what .. waste. I run my own company now and while I agree with quite quitting from an employee side, I also understand from an employer side. It's much harder running and keeping a business open then anything I've experienced in my career so far. I hope i can do better and find a middle ground to keep good employees, unfortunately big corporations ruin much more than we tend to realize.

[@joshsmyth130]

Quiet quiting is just doing your job, and from the last job I had, I learnt that it's really just the way it should be. If u want more work, pay more.

[@illiyasln8139]

"Why are you leaving so early?" "Are you paying me for any more minutes I stay working past what's been written on my contract? No? Well there's your answer. You can fire or deny me a raise if you want, there's higher paying jobs elsewhere" I don't think these people at these companies fully realize they no longer hold that same power over people, and it's amazing to see their reaction when it's thrown at their faces.

[@namenotfound2456]

They can't fire you for refusing to do extras, unless they want a lawsuit for retaliation

[@bloxer9563]

@@namenotfound2456 w

[@user-zw6th1oq6s]

I don't think it's that they have less power. It's more that we're now aware that they never had that much power to begin with.

[@someguy9520]

"Why are you changing to your private clothes 5min before work ends?" "Because it's legally speaking paid time. If you want me to stop working at 5pm then you have to pay me those minutes changing twice a day. 15min/day. 1.25hrs/week. Are you willing to pay another 50-100€/month for that?" "Be a team player! Everyone comes to work alrdy dressed and ready!" "I can also ask "Arbeiterkammer"(chamber of labor) if it's legal to force me to do paid work like changing to work clothes" "..." Let's say my employer isn't too happy with my opinion/mindset on these matters. But I alrdy have a 2nd company offering the same pay with better conditions, so I just mention that everytime.

[@bloxer9563]

You nailed the shitty employer excuses lol@@someguy9520

[@sirhcmi3]

As a Gen-Xer I watched the transition from doing more work getting you those promotions to doing more work getting you nothing. That dynamic has changed over a very short period. It’s great to see a movement like this and I’ve switched my working model to 2-5 year job swaps and avoiding over-time without extra compensation. My current CEO makes in the range of $25 Million a year + bonuses and options. There’s no way they provide that much more value than I do, so loyalty is out and the best job offer wins. +++ It’s not just Gen Z dealing with this.

[@kokorochacarero8003]

Overtime is paid at double rate in countries that make sense. And it's mandated BY LAW

[@PuffinPass]

​@@kokorochacarero8003overtime is paid at time and a half. The only time I have seen double time offered as a standard is working overtime on a holiday.

[@marcoi99495]

Hours worked and value generated is not a linear increase, if someone’s responsibilities and policies determine the future you want someone with the right qualifications, educations, and experience. In order to find the right person there is heavy competition leading to high salaries, it’s very simple why CEOs make as much as they do.

[@kokorochacarero8003]

@@PuffinPass that'd be triple rate where I live

[@kokorochacarero8003]

@@marcoi99495 I hope that boot is tasty

[@ahicksSF415]

I was already going to subscribe because of the great content and then I saw the victory lap picture in the back and said "yep me and this guy are definitely like minded". Thank you for the great content, brother. The marathon continues.

[@mikabugg]

My brother, a recent college graduate, just got a career job. He brought up a really interesting point when talking about work with my mom. He had asked her, “what was your starting pay for your career when you were younger?” And he had noted that the starting pay she had said is about the same in translated value as his starting pay today. Our generation’s starting pay practically has not changed, yet we are expected to pay so much more for basic necessities. So, how are we expected to work “overtime”, or double our work load, when it doesn’t benefit us at all? Quiet Quitting doesn’t go against the idea of labor. It goes against the idea of corporate greed and the harsh incongruence between our income and inflation.

[@sicsempertyrannis4351]

I live in Canada and to get this concept across to people I bring this up. 50 years ago, you could expect to buy a CARTON of smokes and a 24 pack of beer for every hour you worked. Today, in Canada, you have to work 2 hours at minimum wage to afford 1 gallon (4L) of milk. I'm a millennial and the problems handed to my generation are only compounded for my little brothers and sisters of gen Z. Own a home? Afford to live on a single income? Hahahahaha! Pension? Retirement? Travel? Healthcare? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Good jokes! We need to stop playing their game. Take care of yourself and your family, but disconnect from this as much as you can. If you can get out of renting, do it. If you can not have a lease, or a mortgage, do it. If you can buy property and live in a tiny home, do it. Don't accept interest rates and monthly fees. Don't buy processed food that costs more, buy the slab of meat or cheese and cut it yourself. Imagine is Klaus Schwab gets his way, and you "Own nothing" in a digital gulag where they just cut off your access to log-in if you disobey them. You want to live like that? Or do you want to get up every morning, haul water, chop wood, take care of your chickens? You have the power and freedom to choose. And you're not alone if you take the hard road.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

Quiet quitting is a natural response to the corporate world no longer thinking of workers as stakeholders in the business (and society at large). Once upon a time they used to. If we bend over backwards to show loyalty to our employers it probably won't even be noticed, but if they do it to us then it can really make an employee feel connected to their job. The onus is on them to demonstrate loyalty first or it just doesn't work.

[@sicsempertyrannis4351]

@@Pushing_Pixels I've heard legends of this ancient dynamic between workers and their employers. Sadly I was born in 1990 so this ceased to exist long before I was born. Please regale us with more stories of our ancient past, grandpa! Like back in 1863 when they first said the "sea levels are rising and coast lines will rise 40m in the next 40 years!" (Sea levels have risen an average of 1-2mm per year since 1863, btw. It's been BS for a century and a half, people.)

[@Pushing_Pixels]

@@brendansullivan4872 Okay bootlicker. What people actually learn when they travel overseas is that workers in other developed countries aren't treated as badly as workers in the US. What is labelled as "quiet quitting" in the US media is actually just doing your job in most countries. Those countries experience GDP growth just fine, and their workers are much happier, less stressed, and actually have time to pursue things like upskilling, learning new things, or even starting a business. The only reason the media, owned by the ruling class, invented the term "quiet quitting" was to stigmatize working in a normal way. The big employers have become adjusted to, and in some cases even dependent on, workers doing unpaid work. The fact that people are seeing through the manufactured social pressure, to burn yourself out for the benefit of people who couldn't care less about you, scares them as it undermines their exploitative business model. If there is more work than can reasonably be done by the staff available in a workplace, during normal hours, then the employer needs to hire more staff, not expect their existing staff to work for free. Money in workers pockets adds more to GDP than corporate profits do. That money stays in the worker's country, and supports many other businesses. A significant portion of corporate profits usually leave the country, providing no benefit to anyone locally. Another portion might be re-invested into the economy, but the portion that flows into the pockets of the already wealthy generally provides no benefit either. It generally gets spent on luxuries (usually imported), or invested into existing assets like property or equities, driving up the prices of those things without adding any further economic output. Corporations and other businesses diverting some of those profits into paying for labour doesn't hurt the economy in the slightest, and does not increase inflation the way the scaremongers claim. The exploitative work culture in the US today wasn't always the case. It has only really been the norm for the last 40 or so years. Prior to that the work culture in the US wasn't that different to other countries. Gen Z is right to push back against exploitative workplace practices. It's good for people and it's actually good for the country overall.

[@mrj494]

Texas, Starting Teacher pay 27K in 1990ish. it';s 60K in many places. The starting pay has gone up, but the logevity compensation has reduced. So New 0 yr teachers, come in around the same pay as a 10 year teacher. Not too different from what you are saying. IT job in the 90's, highschool ed, would start $17/hr it increased since then. The new programmers are starting at serious income numbers now. Some industries have seen better growth.

[@Clanps]

I did the bare minimum at Walmart. They asked me once if I wanted to work overtime, I declined. Once they tried to get me to work an extra hour 10 minutes before my shift ended but I told them mandatory overtime required 24 hour notice and that I'd be leaving at 7am, night shifts were something else. 😅

[@creamydistortion]

Meth shifts haha

[@chenellebeautytv]

Ewwww I remember those days 😂🤧

[@insensitive919]

"Mandatory overtime" Isn't that illegal to begin with?

[@Clanps]

@@insensitive919 no, it's not illegal if they give you a 24 hour notice.

[@knightleeb3606]

I used to work for a recycling planet and i would be waiting my turn to clock out and the supervisor would ask everyone in line to say over 4 more hours because someone called out 2 minutes before their shift. That job was absolute hell!

[@fenrisdaigon9417]

I’m a millennial and I worked for Walmart for 5 years full time. During my last year I noticed I was being paid 13 CENTS more than new hires. When I brought this up to leadership, I was given a crappy excuse and gaslighted. I made the decision to quit during COVID and go into a different field of work. Glad I did as I jumped from about 13 an hour to about 21 an hour. I’m certainly still figuring it out, but this video made it click for me. I support the ideals of quiet quitting as a method of increasing one’s overall wealth and happiness, as well as a quiet protest to the odds stacked against the working class.

[@sethkang4410]

thank god i learned this withing 3 years. imagine spending more time in there

[@TeamSleep]

It’s Walmart…….

[@yeahman1756]

Unpopular advice , don't ever dedicate yourself to the Retail Industry it's a dog eat dog and shark tank industry. Don't get finesse when they say it's a Challenge for yourself, it's manipulation tactic. It's a set up trick only to lure you in by recruiters. Retail Industry is one of the worst Depreciated incentive work industry to work in. It's suicide mission pretty much. Not worth to dedicated 5+ years in it. Only do it if you need a side quick side cash money if you have spare time.

[@mike02454]

What skill did you bring to Walmart that a new hire was not bringing?

[@rahundsigma]

Hate to break it to you, but 'walmart associate' aint exactly a high skill job. You have no leverage

[@DrMatchstick]

Fundamentally I agree with everything you're saying. I'm 29, 30 this year, and would heavily warn people younger than me that you can't START your career quiet quitting (working). I was fortunate to be able to train up at a company I liked that actually offered me professional development opportunities with supportive management. You need those things. You need a company to invest in you, you can not be as effective by yourself as you can if you're being taught by someone who already knows what they're doing. It is extremely uncomfortable to start a side gig or second job etc while you're making poverty wages. You are not racing anyone but yourself and you are not failing if you are meeting your basic needs. I started my career as a teacher in 2017 out of college making 38k/yr and then changed careers because I needed the freedom that a better salary would give me. I've job hopped every 2-3 years and tripled my salary (even through a layoff) and now I'm starting my own company while doing the bare minimum at my current (135k/yr) job. Quiet Quitting is absolutely not a bad thing, even to shark capitalists, if it's framed as more small businesses and independent people building a company. Rich people hate to admit that they took short cuts and abused systems, but it's the only way you become rich. You HAVE to abuse systems to become wealthy. Try not to do it to the detriment of others, but doing your job and nothing more than your job, is not a detriment, it's what you're being paid to do. Good luck to everyone who sees this comment, be kind, and apply for every job you think you can do even if you're not qualified. You only need one yes to change your life.

[@cflo1386]

I'm 47 and I support the younger generation on this issue. This is also about blue collar workers getting finacially squeezed at every single corner of the market. Lastly, your best ability is mobility, and great job on your video.

[@liammurphy2725]

I'm 67 and...everything you said.

[@taterbug70]

The Guatemalans I worked with a few years ago, would weld or do construction for 10 an hour. I made 10 an hour in 1992. I mean wtf, you know?

[@monkey.moments8272]

@@taterbug70 i make 10 an hour right now lmao

[@taterbug70]

@monkey.moments8272 you must, without fail, find something better for the sake of your eternal soul! I wish I was joking but doing that actually teaches you poverty and acceptance of poverty. It's hard to break it in adulthood, I know from experience.

[@TheAyanamiRei]

Back in Ye Boomer Days, an Employee's Wages were DIRECTLY CONNECTED to Productivity. You worked hard, you got paid more and moved up the ladder. Now Corp Profits can be extra or even Record High and they fire you, strip you of benefits, and MORE!!

[@magicalsimmy]

I’m a GenX’er in my 50s and I am overjoyed that Millennials and GenZ’ers have done so much to improve work conditions. GenX is a much smaller generation whose voices were ignored by the large number of Boomers and Silents in the workplace, whose philosophy was “Suck it up, buttercup” (I’ve actually had that said to me countless times) when FREE WORK was asked of me, or I was asked to do tasks outside of job description and pay scale. I was easily replaceable by the Boomers who flooded the job market, and was always told, “If you don’t like it, quit!” The Millennials and GenZ are large enough groups to have been able to make a difference and force change into these toxic corporate cultures. I am so grateful for the increased fairness and backlash against decades of unfair work practices. It’s so nice to see the change I wish I had in my 20s and 30s. I support quiet “quitting” 100%.

[@sircuffington]

Honestly, we aren't even that big of groups. I think the boomers have just started leaving the workforce, and most of the silent have passed. Statistics are even starting to show a plateau in our population, which supports that idea that average boomers are beginning to pass. It's gonna be a very interesting decade for the economy. I must agree, though. The value on work-life balances has risen substantially, and people are genuinely happier for it.

[@Rawhide279]

@@sircuffington I wholeheartedly support a work life balance. But I disagree that doing just what is asked of you should get you promoted or recognized. Managers recognize the people that care more than that and want to grow with the company, even without working extra hours.

[@galacticupfan7386]

@@Rawhide279that makes sense on paper, but when managers treat (and pay) those workers like shit, none of them are going to be invested in the company or want to put in more, because they’re barely getting enough to live. As usual, it starts at the top.

[@chieftanke]

Gen X here as well, just to add, when sexual harassment happens in workplace, we were told the same as well - suck it up buttercup, it happens

[@sircuffington]

@@Rawhide279 Oh absolutely right on the promotion bit. People who do more work should get promoted to get more pay. That's how everything should work. Unfortunately, even the managers/bosses don't really care about that.

[@glaubhafieber]

Happy that my boss understands all of this. He walked into our offices, said thanks for working here, asked if we needed anything, telling us to go home and not stay too long

[@MitchellKeahey]

Dude you got a great boss it sounds like! Definitely worth working the extra hours for.

[@glaubhafieber]

@@MitchellKeahey that’s even as a disabled retiree, i still offered my knowledge if they ever need help. When i left, he said that even if I’m unable to work ever again, I’ll always one of them. Everyone enjoys working there and even mondays workers smile

[@yuppers1]

​@@glaubhafieberOh wow, which company is that, may I ask?

[@user-wh5ir4fo4r]

Yesterday we all clocked out at 1:00 at manager's request. Still got paid for the rest of the day which for me was 4 more hours. There are good bosses out there.

[@blueblaze7312]

"It's only slavery if we don't pay you" Working a job outside what you get paid for is EXACTLY that!

[@LurkingCrassZero]

I'm 47 and I admire them for doing en masse what most of us wanted to do but never had the guts to do. It's not laziness for the most part, it's hopelessness.

[@eugenkt777]

exactly, why should I work more if I cant even buy a car with a wage thats double than minimum? I cant even imagine living on minimun wage by yourself and not living with your parents. I am lucky that I live with gf but we still cant buy a house AND we are not on minimum wage. If I am gonna live like a dog then I might as well save my sanity lol And thats not even in America, you guys are totally fucked beyond repair. 2 jobs culture is just playing with fire... How long can people endure that shit? I cant even fathom working 2 jobs and barely having money for rent. Then someone will say that those are entry level jobs blablabla so what? People that work "stupid" jobs shouldnt eat? They should just drop dead but still work I dont understand??? One day heads will fall and I welcome that day

[@Bruh234]

I don't think it's having more guts than previous generations, we are young and have grown up through multiple economic, social and military crisis' at every point and we became used to the idea that we probably wont live as long or as well as previous generations, so why the hell would we waste our time in a job we don't like. If we get payed enough for the time and effort, it isn't wasting time but we just arent. I don't think it's more guts, it's less fucks

[@MarmaladeINFP]

I'm 47 and know many people in my generation who have been following the practice of 'quite quitting' their entire adult lives. My guess is this has been common for wage workers since the beginning of capitalism. Most people have little interest in working more than they have to, unless they are being offered some tangible incentive to do so (wage raise, promotion, etc). This is standard human nature, as far as I can tell.

[@randybobandy9828]

It isn't about guts 😂 they have nothing to work for.. they all live in their moms.basements and have no kids, it's easy to quit when you have no obligations or responsibilities

[@azraily1]

I agree, im 23 and am part of the "quiet quitting" movement, and i look at my, and my peers future and how it looks is aweful, im so depressed that the only reason i still keep going is my friends and family, i have no real dreams or hopes, i dont see a way i can gain anything more than basic living, without losing my soul and life which i barely grapple onto with my fingertips as i hang next to my generation over the precipice of the worlds collapse

[@lukevillarreal1458]

I feel like "quiet quitting" is a new term to describe a phenomenon that has always existed. People can just share their experiences more widely because of social media.

[@crabbiboi5528]

For real.

[@untheo]

Dude, most of the Europe lives like that. Lots of the companies will not allow you to stay at work late. Americans just think that they invented something that rest of the world already have. For Europeans living a life is the main priority, having a job needed just to have money to go out with your friends and family. I think next step for americans is to invent Lagom lifestyle and invent wearing same clothes for many years

[@iObeyJesus]

no its not like that its statistics changing over time, goin up consistently over years , & because experiences are more widely shared there is also an influence.

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

@@untheo i don't think people really think they "invented it". he even said that it started BECAUSE a bunch of people posted about it online. it's always existed, it's not exclusive to America, just more people are actively discussing it.

[@tokensark2663]

@@iObeyJesus yea its relatively new id say, at least since wage to profit disparity has been widening

[@TheTrueHardcorefr3k]

I started trucking 2 years ago. A few months into it I was talking to an older gentleman who had been trucking for 15 years loyal to his current company. He was bragging about having 5 million miles and no accidents or moving violations (pretty difficult!). I asked how much he made for being such a valuable employee and he said .40/mile proudly. I got a license a few months earlier and barely knew what i was doing but I was making .50/mile at a different company. I realized then and there that jumping companies is going to be the way to boost my pay. At that job I was making ~60k/yr. After one year, i got my hazmat and tanker endorsements (two tests at the dmv and a background check) and got a new job where I'm home everyday and am on track to make 90k. There's a few companies that I've seen with higher pay but require more experience so now i wait.

[@wanderingman8921]

Do you haul fuel for gas stations or...?

[@sheldondinkleberg4181]

that’s actually really sad for the older gentleman. i hope he realizes his value one day

[@SNL1440]

Same here, I went from making .30 cents a mile to an hourly pay trucking job. Best decision I’ve ever made, so much less stress and a great work/life balance

[@louismaciver8262]

​@@SNL1440wait, getting paid by the mile seems insane. Doesn't that incentivize driving faster and therefore more dangerously?

[@ItsNep]

@@louismaciver8262 why would by the mile incentivize driving faster? it would be based on how long the trip is. if it's a 40 mile trip driving faster is not going to magically create more miles within that distance.

[@MadiCarl]

What’s even more concerning than the increased home prices is how many contractors on social media are coming out now with how bad these brand new, half a million dollar homes are being made. They’re getting more expensive and it’s not even reflected in the craftsmanship.

[@CoryRwtfyt]

10 years at one job I loved. Biggest raise I got was when I quit.

[@stephenhowes6509]

I recently quit a job I loved of 5 years. It was an exact example of what was mentioned in the video. One quit so a lot of the work was offloaded on me. Tried as long as I can but I burned out. It's fine, I was a good employee so I can easily find a better paying job.

[@RayMainBagpiper]

Gen X here. Born and raised with the boomer work ethic. When I first got injured at work, I realized that I was just a cog in the machine. I quit doing the crazy overtime and volunteering.

[@elite4908]

Gen z here. I graduated in 2023, and I really put myself out there to find a job. I found work as a lube tech. My manager was a kid that was a year older than me, and was the son of the actual owner. Long story short, the son would change my hours so I wouldn’t fully payed all my hours worked, and the dad wasn’t a good leader either. He was aware of his son’s bad practices but instead of making a positive change. They both considered firing me to save themselves money. (I was making minimum wage while they were raking in a good 15-20k a month) I worked their a solid 8months, they had a lot of issues with customers being dissatisfied. The straw that broke the camels back was the complete lack of regard for safety. We didn’t have a pit for standard oil changes, instead we had a mechanical lift. But even this lift was not in good quality. It was a commercial lift and we pulled in a good 100 cars a week, and it wasn’t even bolted down so it would wobble as it would be raised up. As I was raising the lift, the steal cables started to snap, I said f*ck this, finished my day of work and didn’t show up the next day. Got my last paycheck and cut my ties with them completely. I’m currently enrolled back into school to be a certified electrician. Other than that if something feels wrong in your gut, listen to it and find something better. Apologies for the long rant.

[@emer07jiffy]

Same

[@Zander10102]

And that's not a bad thing. At least you get to be a cog.

[@20tea]

I've been explaining this to family and friends for years. Our way of life is constantly getting pushed further towards a lower quality of life in exchange for more work, higher efficiency and for less pay.

[@rogueoutsider8508]

We learned in this job market that if you work hard, you are rewarded with more work.

[@Culebrunch]

As Gen Z myself, I can safely say that quiet quitting is nothing new at all and simply a pointless new buzzword. The idea of quiet quitting is basically what I've been using as a motto for most of my early work life, being: *Never give 100% to something or someone that won't give 100% back.*

[@thomasshaw61]

ANDTHATISWHYYOUANDYOURGENERATIONWILL NEVERBEOTHERTHENWHATYOU ARE!ENJOY!I havethousandsofdollarsto spendonmyhobbies,everyyear!

[@themainelife.2074]

From what I see it’s the boomers that are quiet quitters. Most of the older gen’s at work do much less in the same job. Not all of them but I’ve seen productivity charts

[@entltyq]

​@@thomasshaw61okboomer. You forgot to turn off text capitalization.

[@seanbrummfield448]

​@@thomasshaw61Well, either way they have to pass to someone else when the older generations leave.

[@josephkeating3597]

I'm a 73 year old retiree and I can tell you that this guy is dead on accurate. It does my heart good to find that the younger generation hss broken the code. The governement, the Federal Reserve and the big money elites are NOT YOUR FRIEND!!! You are a rented set of arms and legs. Today you are the employee of the month, tomorrow you'll find your Sh*T out on the street. I always laughed when an employer told me how much they valued me. That might be true today but tomorrow they won't even remember your name!! Your labor belongs to you. Use it to your benefit!!

[@DanniDuck]

The younger generation has certainly not figured out anything haha.

[@codeblue3910]

Your labor belongs to you? Then why'd you AGREE to an hourly in exchange for said labor... sounds pretty communistic to me. These days even dishwashers have options to invest in their own companies but it comes out of what they earn, not what they feel entitled to. I'd be scared shitless if I were to start a business paying workers what they've agreed to and suddenly the janitor and everyone else are trying to stake claims for royalties in my business on the grounds that "their entitled to their labor." They're 'entitled' to wipe down my windows and claim their hourly at best.

[@MayoBO9]

I'm 24 and have been working since high school and what you said is completely true. An employeer will treat you like gold when you are working your butt off but as soon as you cause a bit of trouble you are out the door and your replacement is starting.

[@josephkeating3597]

Quiet Quiting is all about doing only what you are paid to do and no more. I don't advocate starting trouble on the job. Trouble makers are no good to anybody. You should always do the best that you can at whatever job you hold. My point is that you are only valuable to an employer for so long as he needs you, and you're employer is only valuable to you for as long as you need them. Your labor belongs to you. If you enjoy your job, that's great. If you get along with your employer that's great too but you must remember that you are only guaranteed work for that day and tomorrow is another day. If you don't like your job, get another one but always do your best. The job does not belong to you, it belongs to your employer and he can fill that job with whomever he wishes, whenever he wishes, just as your labor belongs to you and you can give it to whomever. Companies are rather insistant that you give them 2 weeks notice when deciding to change jobs but they don't give you two weeks notice when they decide to fire you. That door should swing both ways as well. @@MayoBO9

[@DanniDuck]

@@josephkeating3597 Or, you could go out and master a skill that is of value to someone else, like web design, and never work again. I wouldn't take my advice too seriously, as I was making 5k a month at 17 on accident from a hobby of programming, which obviously altered my mindset quite a bit.

[@christamarch947]

Amen. I am 58 and have been working for 40 yrs. I only passed the 60k mark in the last 5 yrs and still cannot afford my own home. Some of the bad choices are my own. I don't see how those coming into the workforce can afford much. My father who is 84, used to say kids were lazy. He's been retired 20 yrs. After explaining to him all the things my company expects and what they no longer give he finally gets it. If I do all extra hours, I will be told I am a great worker, but still be graded as meets on my review (the same grade as workers who do less). You have to walk on water to get an exceeds. I never understand why mgmt thinks that will motivate anyone. Most people don't want to live for a job. We want a full life.

[@RossMalagarie]

Kevin O'Leary "Mr Wonderful" said it on the video, "if you quiet quit then you are unamerican". Basically he is saying companies don't care about your life or work/life balance, they want people that will give all their time, energy, and effort to make them richer.

[@christamarch947]

@@RossMalagarie yes but they will tell you they do care about work life balance. Mine certainly does.

[@RossMalagarie]

@@christamarch947 they do care about your work/life balance. They want it to be 90/10 but since most companies want you to give 110% percent they they actually want your work/life balance to be 110/-10

[@ms.donaldson2533]

I'm 52 and reentered retail after losing my office job to the covid shutdown. I am currently making LESS as a "Team Lead" at a Kohl's store now than I was a "Department Manager" at Walmart in 2001. I have ZERO assistants - while at Walmart my department had a staff of 5 people daily. I can NOT have off on Sundays - while at Walmart I worked Mon - Fri unless it was the holiday season. I applied for Home and find out that it includes kids - while at Walmart it started as mens. I was given a raise when they added kids, given an increase to add girls and another increase to move to a secured department. At Kohl's I was told $16.50 and found out two weeks later that it was $13.90. Shady and UNETHICAL business practices, because the younger generation wasn't taught business and the immigrant population don't know about employment laws. My father was 52 when I was born - he said that TV made people stupid. I have watched the internet make them incompetent. 🤣

[@DellikkilleD]

@@ms.donaldson2533 all of those things are your fault. if you accept that treatment, why would they offer more?

[@jehovahsfitness3151]

I thought quiet quitting was just leaving your job without a word and never returning

[@pulsatingsausageboy2076]

There’s no reason to go overboard for these companies. They won’t do the same for you I guarantee you that. And they’ll always want more without any recognition or reward.

[@Allin1Xavi]

Exactly. Job switching is becoming the new norm since companies can care less about you, so why should employee care about being loyal to a company?

[@user-wh5ir4fo4r]

@@Allin1Xavi In general, I agree. There are a couple of good companies out there to which I'd be loyal. It's rare.

[@calcustom5026]

Changing jobs every two years has worked amazingly for me because companies always give incentives to new people but rarely to existing people. It's the same reason cell phone companies offer free phones and discounts to new customers, but not to existing customers. On top of that, when you stay at the same company you are fighting for promotion into only a few openings, but when you search outside your window expands to thousands.

[@practicallyprinz]

And my mother advised it's not a good idea to chop change jobs, I guess from her perspective it's true but I think in today's day and age, being a skilled labourer really helps out. I might be adopting the job moving strategy with a 2-3 year interval.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

If every job teaches you a new skill you're way better off switching regularly. Your resume will show you can do a variety of tasks, not just one. Unless a job offers you a clear path of progression there's little point sticking around forever.

[@calcustom5026]

@@practicallyprinz an issue with staying in one job is skill stagnation. If you don't progress at a rate to keep you learning and building skills, you will atrophy. If you feel ready to promote to the next level, and your company isn't capitalizing on that, then you need to find a company that will.

[@bluebladex3]

Same. Changing jobs have just been upward scale in money earned. My 4th job change has been a 50 percent bump with 37 hours of work a week. Hoping for a bigger bump at a big tech company in a year or two. Just trying to hit the 6 figure mark as even 70k barely makes ends meet. I don't understand how people find ways to do anything with less than 40k a year.

[@Dirtboxhor]

It also looks like you can't hold down a job. So who wants to waste time hiring you to begin with?

[@yngbadge6308]

I’m 19 year old who had their first anxiety attack a week ago from trying to go above and beyond at Walmart and went home early that day. Remember talking to my dad and he said “why are you putting so much effort into Sam Walton’s dream, put that into your own dream” really made me think damn why do I give my all to this company I’m just a number to them at the end of the day. So I haven’t been going above and beyond for them anymore that extra energy I put towards my goals now😤

[@MitchellKeahey]

100% - if you’re gonna invest all of your energy into something, why not have it be something that you control?

[@Urajj]

Unless your job is your passion, treat it as the revenue source to fund your passions. I worked at Walmart from 2011-2014. I feel your pain in a lot of ways, thankfully i was going to college and living with my parents (rent free, i just had to fund my own college somehow. i.e. loans) I got a 2 year degree and now work for a global company in a technician position, when i started there my pay was almost 3 times what i made at walmart at the time. (~$9.35 vs ~$25 per hour) 8 years later i am about to break into six figures, have a mortgage on a home, married, etc. Damn-near the dream. I'm 30, making almost double the average annual wage of someone my age. I still to this day treat even my career like i described above. It is the revenue source that funds my hobbies/passions on my time off. I work a compressed work week, and when i clock out, im done. I drive home, and don't even think about work (except for writing this comment) i put in no more effort than my coworkers do, unless my manager gives me a task that i find interesting. Thankfully the company i work for now doesn't have the same kind of management style as retail... Fuck retail. Fuck customer service in general. I empathize with those "stuck" in those kinds of fields, and anyone who actually enjoys and wants to be in those fields i'm very appreciative of. Any time i talk to someone just entering the work force or thinking about college, i try to stress that unless it is your passion you don't need to go into life-long debt to make good money. Take a long look at the 2-year degree programs at your local community college, and look into the hiring rates of those programs, and the average pay for those degrees. My passion when i first went to college was "I want to learn japanese and go teach in japan, maybe be a tour guide for americans visiting the country". I gave that dream up for stability, and a job that i DONT HATE to work, and funds my other hobbies and passions. I recognize that i have had SO SO MANY privileges that allowed me to get into my "career" with minimal debt, but if you're going to college for longer than two years you likely have similar privileges.

[@jamiewells22]

Had an anxiety attack because I did too much at Aldi and they screwed me over many times. Literally just quit today no two weeks. 😅

[@dreamiicloud1179]

I learned the same thing at 19:) it’s a really important lesson to learn. People who take any job too seriously (not just corporate slave wage jobs) become so miserable, they drag you down with themselves.

[@Demopans5990]

Hence why many IT type people fully automate the day to day stuff and silently collect their wage for a "job" well done. Some even do this for multiple jobs at the same time

[@razrv3lc]

Companies need to be afraid of their employees just like governments need to be afraid of their people. It should NEVER be the other way around.

[@samanthawise8991]

My mom worked at State Farm for 20 years. She rose through that ranks because of her hard work. Then the company wanted to get rid of the higher paid employees without firing them. So the company did everything possible to overwork them and make their jobs as terrible as possible. People started quitting so it was working. My mother became so stressed from her work environment that it began to affect her mental health. She finally quit too.

[@Pushrod_Criff]

This comment hits hard!!!

[@sicsempertyrannis4351]

Which is called constructive dismissal, and has been illegal longer than I've been alive. You stick it out, document EVERYTHING, and then sue them. Speaking from experience. My battle went 8 months and ended with them finally "laying me off seasonally" and paying me out because I had them cornered with recorded phone calls, backed up e-mails, and documents of EVERYTHING. My lawyer told me to do that, because the company knows they have to fire to be taken to court. For that last 8 months I did ONLY what was required of me as per my contract and NOTHING more, keeping IMMACULATE logs of EVERYTHING. It was the easiest, breeziest time of the 6 years I slaved for that job. Losing it was the best thing that ever happened to me (aside from my wife) even if it was the most stressful.

[@alb12345672]

@@young-salt Even if they prove age discrimination or whatever they make a settlement.

[@alb12345672]

@@young-salt actually looked it up. Seems like a UK thing, not American.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

I've heard it called managed dismissal in Australia, and unfortunately they tend to get away with it here, though there are some legal protections and being unionised can help combat it. Basically make life as hard as possible till they leave, when what they should be doing is paying out redundancies.

[@BiggestBigBoy]

The longer I live in this boring cyberpunk dystopia, the more I get Ted Kaczynski's point.

[@cuhlainnslane1564]

The man was a mad prophet.

[@2Ahthelphi]

Great now the glowies have you on a list. Tbf 70% of Americans are probably on a list lol

[@Mr3DLC]

​@@2Ahthelphi everyone is on the list

[@Marleyjr00X]

​@@2Ahthelphi I'm probably on at least 3 lists.

[@My_Arse]

Gotta invest on those Sandevistan

[@xeviusUsagi]

Let me rephrase this: "Companies give minimum wages with minimum job security while giving small to none career growth" and in response: "Workers now work with minimum effort as of contract, and do not aim to gain a promotion they know they won't get"

[@macmadness5932]

hmmm… yeah tbh seems unfair to large companies. i cant believe workers would have the audacity to give minimum effort for minimum wage, and use common sense to switch jobs for financial incentive. how dare they

[@RazingthenRaising]

I must say that I have done this with my current job. I'm trying to find a way out that will be good for my family.

[@jansen4282]

I feel like us X and millennials were burnt out and frustrated. And when Z joined the workforce, and just had us analyze the situation, and stand up for ourselves. We needed the push. Together as a labor force, I do think we will prevail. Companies not making profits because of a lack of labor will force their hand. It’s a game of chicken

[@fumothfan9]

They need us we don't need them.

[@peacechan4500]

@@fumothfan9 actually this. Companies need to realise this. The mentality of there's gonna be more people for the job if you quit gonna bite their bottom line eventually

[@bitchhunter3118]

plot twist, they just gonna replace us with ai, hell they might be behind all these ai reseach funder which answer why it is progressing quite fast lately.

[@biazacha]

@@bitchhunter3118 certain things can’t be replaced and/or replicated with nuance enough to be profitable.

[@stephanieann9770]

Plus people stealing from companies now, too. Think of how Walmart is known for treating their employees. Most of them are on welfare.