Why Rich People Love Pretending to Be Poor

[@HorsesOnYT]

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[@aznrhmn]

The video is too simplistic

[@cutstring]

then make a better one@@aznrhmn

[@UnfinishedSwing]

It seems like this vid is a jealous rant rather than valid criticism. The family does seem like a wealthy family, not poor at all... I mean, poor people like me can't afford a farm or any fresh farm products they use for their recipes. Are they pretending to be poor? Hell nah, they're just living the FARM life. Lol By the way, farmers are rich AF nowadays, most of them are heirs! We're not in the 30's anymore! 😅

[@Americansikkunt]

Beginning of the video, I am asking, “Why does living on farm equate to poverty?”

[@motwhom3230]

@@UnfinishedSwing the fuck you mean "living the farm life". living the farm life is being up at 6 every morning tending to your cattle or produce. slaving away hours on end. "farmers are rich af nowadays", no shit, the farm owners have inherited it. but they aint farmers, they have workers. Influencers like them are soul searching for a purpose, as he said the "respect" from others. also the farm analogy was clearly metaphoric, whilst deliberately highlighting there complete lack of awareness from the lives of working class people. If you cant grasp that, its ok, i dont know you. You're probably young, or stupid, whatever goodluck

[@Limonene788]

I used to know some kids a few years ago that travelled the U.S. in a car on their own time, did whatever they wanted to do, woke up whenever they wanted, and claimed that they were making it all on their own without any help or jobs. They also looked down on me and said that I was a loser because I held down a job and gave into, "what the man wanted me to do". For a little while, I took them at face-value and tried to understand why I couldn't be like them However, everything made a lot more sense when I overheard one kid making a phone call to his grandma asking her to send him some money via wire transfer. I'm truly amazed that people even have the audacity to look down on others for not living like they do when they themselves don't even live the way they claim to.

[@j_jizzle_69]

Bruh I always feel guilty when my parents or grandparents gave me money even for my birthday. I never understood how someone could freeload like that without feeling like an asshole

[@_Chessa_]

@@j_jizzle_69 it makes one want to die. They are depressed and feel like a loser, they simply wish they never existed. Because they are too stupid to find a job and yet too wanted to be let go to the streets from a caring and wealthy family, so the person slowly dies on the inside feeling like a failure a loser and someone that simply wants to end themselves but knows the financial burden of taking their life would put their family at risk of being less wealthy and an embarrassment so they continue to live trapped hating themselves forever more and with such a brain disability they forget what they had learned. Lol

[@monicacastro3751]

thats so messd up

[@erintheautie]

@@j_jizzle_69probably because the grandma is rich so it’s only like giving them 20 bucks to her.

[@tannaeros]

@@j_jizzle_69 My nephew did the 'rich kid acting po' " for a while. Too bad he came from a family with not too much money. He told my father he needed money for college, my father co signed to loan, the kid didn't even enroll, and just blew the funds hanging with kids whose parents were well off.

[@JackZoe-bf3zq]

"They have a safety net" This is it. They have the freedom of choices. There is nothing wrong with that. However, not respecting the differences and monetizing them creates a dystopian nightmare.

[@jerryrikki9466]

Safety net is one thing, part owning the factory that makes safety nets is another

[@SofaKingShit]

Then there's the safety net of having a loving family that gives support. That's an emotional benefit that when coupled with material resources can lead to a well adjusted individual being able to write a beautifully worded newspaper article about how the government really should do more to remove these homeless encampments of ne'er-do-wells who somehow just keep making the wrong choices in life.

[@spacewad8745]

Absolutely true!

[@loaflad]

True

[@FalloutUrMum]

I don't think you know what a dystopian nightmare is

[@VintageAviation737]

Honestly, if I was rich. I’d like to live a simple life on a farm like them. Not act poor but to live simple and not flashy

[@socialmoth4974]

Same here. It would be a good way to keep yourself busy without over consuming and be close to nature.

[@SpaceCattttt]

Indeed. And these people weren't "acting poor". I don't know where this guy got that idea from. I hate judgmental videos like this one.

[@korstiaanakse1]

Me too

[@lyxthen]

If I won the lottery tomorrow I wouldn't change anything. I would live the life I do now, but at peace. I don't have to worry about rent or healthcare or having to work my ass off in a work I don't like. I would stay at home and bake. But I don't feel only the rich should be able to have a lifestyle like this. The fact that only a fraction of the population can live not having to worry about starving or getting evicted is unfair. That they can *afford* a simple lifestyle.

[@johnindigo5477]

​​@teppolundgren people who don't know anything about agriculture and associated wealth with material.

[@r.muller8289]

I saw some comments attacking this essay on the grounds of "some people just want to live a simple life regardless of money, stop playing the victim! What's wrong with living a simple life!" But that's not living simple. Farm work is brutal physical labor, all the time, not cherry picking the activities you do with your children for fun and to post on Instagram. Not cottage core. Not homesteading. Fawn all you want over a meticulously clean kitchen and dainty aprons, all produced to mimic a specific aesthetic, but there people aren't splitting their own foot on a hoe while trying to work the earth. Their children sure as fuck aren't repeatedly being infected with stomach bugs because the water supply is contaminated with human feces. They sure as fuck aren't tending to the animals at 5am while it rains. It's very easy to drool over what you perceive as a "simple, worry-free life", but if you ever lived in a farm or had family who lived in one, you'd understand it's anything but relaxing. You don't want to live in a farm, you just want a homestead vacation.

[@zeekay3205]

💯

[@AlexandraNevermind]

Also why the need to have someone follow you around with a camera so you can share your “simple farm” lifestyle with 8 million people?

[@spideylexi]

exactly

[@michaeloliver1143]

Jesus 😂 Yeah, farming can be tough but these sound like rather personal examples 😂 I really enjoyed it growing up, it’s way more work than living in a suburb or apartment but it’s fun work

[@iMacxXuserXx485]

There are happy farmers living a nice life out there. Not everyone is living this extreme example you've given. My friend's uncle owns a farm and he loves it and enjoys his life. And he chose that life. It's a job for sure, but it's the job that fits him.

[@littlecretin-h6j]

I think the bigger analysis of this should be "why is the quiet and simple life so unreachable for the poor?" It's a weird, dystopian question that really shows you the disparity between the rich and the poor. Living a simple life should not be out of reach, and it's wild that it is. Housing is out of reach, food is getting out of reach...living is slowly becoming a testament to privilege and it's so twisted that it is. Every human deserves to live a simple life. Yet farmers would not want to be born in the generations of strife they had faced. But it's undeniable that so many people (including me) WANT to be in a cottage and live simply. I have been poor and struggled, yet I dream of forging a sustanable life for myself. I rage at how unreachable that's becoming.

[@amakiethagod]

totally! very much agree and i’m glad someone else has this perspective. we should all be able to have a peaceful day to do nothing but bake a loaf or two of bread, topped off with wholesome and precious moments with our family. it is terribly sad that this is so unthinkable and unattainable for many

[@VV-cy9gf]

​@@amakiethagod Peace and free time with your loved ones is not a given. It's an incredible privilege that has to be paid for with blood, sweat, tears and sometimes life itself. It is this way now, has been this way for the past 200 thousand years of humanity and will be this way for the next million or two.

[@halfmutanthalfjapanese3113]

Actually you can sign up as farm worker right now. It's available online and a lot of young people use it to earn money and explore other countries. Do you want a simple life or just want to OWN a huge farm which need a lot of money investment every year? No one is gonna give you electricity, water, etc. as if you lived in a flat. You will have to manage all the basic supplies. And also it would be much more expensive because for the town buildings all this costs are divided by all users. Even fixing roads to your place would be your responsibility. That's why it's hard to effort functional country house. But farm is also about production of plants/animals. And it's a tough business which could be ruined in a moment and only a few actually want to make it. People what to have their own bar or beauty service, no one want to go away from comfort and risk their ass all the time. That's why government support farmers and there's a number of programms to finance those who dare to start. If you really want to face the reality of this job - go on. It's not that hard to begin.

[@devinkipp4344]

I would like to point out that it isn't all that expensive and you can do it if you look in the right v places though.

[@devinkipp4344]

​@@VV-cy9gf you can tell the future?

[@roberthamilton1063]

There's an old Moomin comic strip where the dad meets an artist in France and hes rich. He starts following the Moomins around because he says that they live like "lillies in the grass" meaning that they are really poor. He romanticizes their entire family and when they were low on food and the roof started leaking, the artist bailed and went back to his penthouse. That comic was written in the 1950s!!

[@Blooodhail]

gotta love Moomin

[@gorgo4910]

“Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these” It means to live without worrying about the next disaster but to trust God, who is steadfast and loving.

[@tomaccino]

@@gorgo4910 Ok, so why does a "loving" god allow people to die in natural disasters?

[@cringemaxxing28]

@@tomaccino This has been discussed endlessly for 100s of years. Why do you expect a random KZbin commenter to have the answer. Stop being condescending.

[@tomaccino]

@@cringemaxxing28 Who put salt in your coffee? It's not condescending to challenge the idea that god is a "loving being" or that you should "trust him" in any way... I don't trust anyone that allows innocent children to drown in floods.

[@thethirdchimpanzee]

To be honest, if I suddenly found myself rich, like I won the Powerball or something, *I* would buy a small homestead here in Arizona, and garden and raise - and rescue - animals and make bread snd cheese all day. Not to imitate poverty but because I *am* poor and being rich is the ONLY WAY that I could AFFORD to live that dream of mine. :/

[@stinky-smelly]

Bro that's my dream too. Have a lil house and foster dogs. That'd be so sick.

[@liv.s.]

i hope you can get there one day, best wishes man

[@MrCaesar2u]

I don't think that's unusual. What's so obvious about these examples is the VIDEO!! The mere fact that they record themselves and broadcast it says it all. I too dream of a small farm and a little lady with a big butt.

[@Hex4rr]

success isnt a number, it is a state.

[@bernadetteobaglietto5923]

@@Hex4rr but that number sure as hell plays its role in getting that state.

[@nonamedbuc]

One of the most known Greek rappers wrote some lyrics that can be loosely translated to "The pain of the impoverished becomes the art of the ruling class" and I find it quite fitting here

[@hunni2968]

Rappers? Who?

[@nonamedbuc]

Greek rap can be deeply political and/or social.The artist's called Lex,and the lyrics are from a song named "korakia"

[@nateoxchoa7649]

Sounds like Banksy

[@nonamedbuc]

@@nateoxchoa7649 Yeah exactly,and Banksy is also one to blame for this

[@vandarkholme8548]

Bruh even rappers in Greece end up writing some deep shi

[@SLABMONTY]

“In a world driven by productivity…. Producing nothing means is the most exceptional elite thing you can do-“ what a beautiful quote.

[@_Ari_888]

I found it less beautiful and more disgusting. That rich people feel elite for producing nothing. That they feel happy when they sit on their bum and make the world a worse place by raking in money from doing nothing

[@cako666]

Beautifully haunting, all things considered.

[@duduvec5971]

Doesn't it also mean that not producing equals to not being valuable?

[@leopaldbarnibus3434]

@@duduvec5971to them it means they’re so above it that they don’t have to produce

[@ryankerekes1389]

@@duduvec5971 That's the point; the rule applies to us, but as the rich are the exception, they have the luxury of still being "valuable" while not producing anything.

[@coledavidson5630]

There's a difference between using your money to live the way you want, and "pretending to be poor". If living on a rustic farm makes you happy, go for it. When you turn it into a brand or act like you are struggling when you aren't, that's when it becomes appropriation

[@XOPOIIIO]

Commies just hate people more successful than them, it doesn't matter how they live, they would hate them anyway.

[@alexbarry2497]

My thoughts exactly man, his initial point rubbed me the wrong way and made it difficult to appreciate the rest of the video. If rich people are being criticized for wanting to live a simpler life what are they supposed to do? Just live in a way they don’t want to? They have the luxury to live on a farm and have a safety net yes but that doesn’t take away from the effort.

[@azarshadakumuktir4551]

@@alexbarry2497 The issue is they are putting it out on the public in a theatrical way. If they were simply "living the way they want" we wouldn't hear about it.

[@alexbarry2497]

@@azarshadakumuktir4551 Yeah I totally see your point. And that makes sense that it can glamourize a life that isn't as attainable as they make it out to be. But I feel his criticism of these people in the video was either misguided or poorly laid out, it made it feel more like these people were going out of their way to feel poor

[@skunkworkxx]

I think that they are teaching their children not to be spoilt brats and showing them how much effort it requires to run a farm. All good things as far as I can see. A much better use of their money than giving their kids anything they want with no responsibility. I don't care that they put this life on KZbin... far better content than idolizing the Kardashians.

[@aasalaha]

I was a private chef for a rich couple. They were the most out of touch people I have ever met. They would boast about how "long" their Costco receipts were, all while trying to exploit me by attempting to get me to do work that did not pertain to my duties, for no pay. The last straw for me was when I was told to polish shoes right before a dinner guest were to arrive. There were cases and cases full of Evian water everywhere throughout their home. They drank nothing else. It felt so dystopian.

[@pathofthetrickster]

How much were they paying you? 🤔 If they wanted to treat you like their butler, you could have asked for more pay 😂

[@littlebrothermoneywithmich6178]

Just sprinkle the word “dystopian” on everything. Must be a bunch of high schoolers in these comments 😂 Those are just typical Americans.

[@Justin-lc8wk]

@@littlebrothermoneywithmich6178 2 weeks vacation is a lot of vacation time here in America. 50/50 on being fired on getting sick or having a medical accident depending on if you've been there for multiple years. at my current employer its taken my coworkers, which have been treated well with benefits, just got 4 weeks of vacation for being there for 10 years.

[@Floral_Sun]

​@@littlebrothermoneywithmich6178 Well, it definitely is fucking Utopian, now is it?? 🤣🤣🤣

[@boops8661]

​@@littlebrothermoneywithmich6178yknow youre just uneducated. they used the term dystopian correctly as the rich family drinking only Evian is reminiscent of name brands in Fahrenheit 451 or 1984. Being obsessed with Costco receipts and Evian shows just how materialistic they are, to the point where its inhuman. Shows your lack of English studies

[@jeremygood3246]

Honestly our government has no idea how people are suffering these days. I much feel sorry for the disabled people who don’t get the help they deserve

[@ScarletJohansson-rg6jr]

Jobs will pay your bills, business will make you rich but investment makes and keep you wealthy!

[@samanthadonaldson2246]

Everyone needs more than their salary to be financial stable. The best thing to do with your money is to invest it rightly, because money left for saving always end up used with no returns.

[@madiezancanellatl9205]

Can you show me how to trade profitably, I honestly need another source of steady income

[@ScarletJohansson-rg6jr]

I employ the expertise of a professional for that, Kate Mellon Bruce because it isn’t as easy as it seems

[@ScarletJohansson-rg6jr]

She's active on face book @

[@xtremememestv1717]

This video really strikes a chord with me, especially the van living segment. I’ve been saying the term “gentrified homelessness” for years. When I first started living out of my car, it was out of necessity, to escape the “grind.” I had no other options. My friend, who came from a very wealthy background, took that as “inspiration” and decided he wanted to do it, too. So his folks bought him a fancy truck, kitted it out, and sent him on his way. He and his other wealthy friends proceeded to cast judgment on me later on for not having the nicest, most up to date equipment and gear. They now congregate in Moab, UT, a city that used to be a hotspot for people authentically living that lifestyle. Many of the locals and all the poor folk have now been priced out because of the intense gentrification. I no longer speak to him because in every conversation he “relates” to the struggle. But for him, if he ever gets tired of doing such, he can escape back to the city and stay at home, or in an apartment bankrolled by his folks. I can’t. And I never will. Thank you for making this, man.

[@youtubename7819]

Similarly, FUCK these rich kids who resell stuff they buy at goodwill for a profit. I hate that trend. It’s the first thing gen z has done that has truly pissed me off. I guess I’m officially an old lady now that I’m pissed at the kids these days.

[@goosewithagibus]

Is it wrong of me to do the vanlife thing because I prefer to pay for my own living space instead of rent? I'm also a minimalist and I am at a point in my life where I really need my own space. So I got a Ram Promaster and put in (currently working on it actually) all the cool stuff. I have the $1000 composting toilet, the solar panels, 2000wh battery bank. I'm really excited to do this. I just stock shelves at a one of the major retail stores. I just want freedom to move cities, camp with ease, and just work simple low skill jobs. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong or hurting people.

[@GNOMEM1LF]

Your ex friend was an absolute twat, and I hope you're managing much better now, on your own. May not be much coming from a stranger, but sending love to you across the world.

[@yummico]

I'm so sorry what an ahole that guy is. Inspiration! That's just cruel

[@makutas-v261]

God's judgement will be a special one for that one lol

[@theprecipiceofreason]

I am reminded of the executives of my company paying tens of thousands of dollars in order to be homeless for 24 hours as an exercise in empathy. They came back, one by one, touting how eye-opening and enlightening the experience was, using language that highlighted the sacrifice they made in order to achieve this new understanding. They slept on concrete, for goodness sakes! We lost 18 jobs to AI last month and 35 jobs to foreign outsourcing this month.

[@tessarae9127]

Ha - “sucks to be you!!!”

[@ManiyaVinas]

It is better being a homeless man than a homeless woman

[@RobotronSage]

Pretty soon everyone will be working for AI

[@marsh346]

"we lost eighteen whole jobs positions!" we lost thousands of potential job positions after the industrial revolution. progress is imminent. now you have tw- three choices actually. first one being: revolt, make a noise. efficiency starved corpos cant ignore you from their skyscraper if you cry loud enough, it worked in the industrial revolution what has changed? second choice: accept the inevitable progress, it would have come anyway, so take advantage of your power that a shepherd in the 1309 could not have imagined ever wielding. third choice: stay ignorant, nothing can affect you if you simply dont care. did you lose your job to a set of ones and zeros or did you lose your job due to the people? all of us hate each other, we love our nature's programming: "survive and procreate", we are not very much different from a program.

[@theprecipiceofreason]

@@marsh346 You know I wasn't speaking about the entire planet, or about technology, right? This was an anecdote about one company. Thank you for your AI agenda though. Industrial revolution didn't finish getting rid of things for 200 years. Relax.

[@MiniChickpea]

I used to follow someone on social media who liked to say that people who work a 40 hour week are brainwashed into thinking that is normal. Meanwhile, he was raised in an affluent neighborhood and doesn’t have to work a 9-5 job and chooses to live a simple life, raising ducks and chickens in his backyard. The man has money, plain and simple. I believe that most people, had they had the means, would choose to live a simple life. We don’t need to be lectured or shamed by those who think they know better than those aren’t living the way they do. Also, there is nothing cool about branding a “lifestyle” that a large portion of the population is struggling through on a daily basis.

[@chrisvids1820]

Sometimes once we get the luxurys that we sacrificed so much for, we realize that we don't even like them

[@JohnM0rris]

I mean he's right though what the fuck?!?!😂 I work over 40 hours a damn week. And on salary!! This shit ISN'T normal. We shouldn't have to work like damn dogs to barely make it. Bro you need to get your head out your own ass and learn to humble yourself and LISTEN. That dude was trying to impose wisdom on you, but all you thought was poor me. You really are gonna stay poor. I saved over 20k in investments like 401k and savings over 4 years. Not crazy, but man, better than 4 years ago. Working 40 hours is not fucking normal tho!!! Break the cycle

[@starbean9]

Well, people ARE brainwashed into accepting the 40 hr work week as normal. If we weren't, we would be seeing a labor rights movement. But most people (myself included) would rather work the 40 than stir the pot and risk their lively hoods for the chance of a better quality of life.

[@Smenchevieve]

@KCE3 I was a 'gifted' kid as well, but I somehow managed to be lucky enough to be born to two parents that had degrees and made enough money that we could comfortably house and feed me and my 3 brothers and help us pay for college. I fortunately had a passion for computer science, so even though I really struggled in school, my parents' and brothers' support and my relative financial comfort was a safety net I truly don't know if I would have graduated without. I would love to tell you that anyone can overcome the struggles that come with, in my case, autism and adhd but I know if I was in any other situation I don't think I would ever have been able to graduate or move out

[@salasyk8708]

​@@starbean9idk man with the Latinos in the workforce idk. We always just want more hours. I'm talking about illegals and most of them come here for better lives and work. Out there in the hot sun, it's hard sometimes and it's not as easy getting a job somewhere else sometimes and you gotta be lucky on who the boss is too and hope he doesn't like see you killing yourself and giving it your all for just $10 an hour. Not only that but I don't think large protesting about wages would do anything bruh America is already a declining country, it's just gonna start getting worse on from here

[@camystar129]

While watching this video, this is crazy realization is there. When poor people want to escape they are called lazy, and self unaware. When rich people do it its okay. wow

[@kaazmire5358]

Since when was poor people escaping their current life considered lazy?

[@yulurkinbrah]

@@kaazmire5358fr, i thought that was the goal lmao. the american dream. quite the opposite of lazy tbh.

[@samuelmalar8527]

like on a farm? never heard anybody say people like that are lazy

[@camystar129]

@@samuelmalar8527 I don’t know why people are acting so oblivious this is common in America anyways. When meaning “escape” by going to get yourself something nice or when wanting to take a day of rest, when your scheduled to work. Some people have dealt with trauma, many experience death of a love one and it’s still affecting them personally. Are they lazy? Cause they simply don’t feel the motivation to do something for their work that day. NO This is common in the USA, whereas politicians think the new generation is lazy and buys too much “Starbucks.” Always putting down the working class for wanting something else then, saving all their Pennies to maybe a home one day if it’s even in their “price-range” prices of homes are through the roof. When someone doesn’t have a good paying job, people say go out and get a better job. They say Stop being lazy, say should of went to college and not sat around! When many families simply are on the scale to not afford universities and such as college books. So yes this is common, I don’t believe it’s right and it’s definitely a two sided issue. People will always argue with those problems.

[@camystar129]

@@samuelmalar8527 he also says this in the video, so yes it’s a thing 😅

[@izabela5234]

I’d seen her videos before and never thought she was poor. In fact, it was clear they’re quite wealthy to be living a life like that. Like many said here, if I were rich, I’d love to live like her!

[@lawrup]

If I was Ritch I would hit the gritty

[@dingledongle455]

There’s a difference between wealthy on a self sustaining farm and literal billionaires

[@unknownv8462]

Its useless

[@harisatayyaba7730]

I was shocked when I learnt they are billionaires, I always thought they have enough to live never thought they are heir to such a huge company

[@sohpiepink80]

i thought so too. her clothes were always so nice. but many people think they're poor that's why someone had to point out that their stove is so expensive.

[@Rebeccas_penmanship]

I grew up extremely poor. I'm not rich now. The example of van vloggers adds up, but when you speak about a family living simply on a farm..anyone with a real understanding of poverty knows this is a luxury. Land is a luxury. Having time and energy to bake homemade bread is a luxury. The ability to live close to nature is a luxury. All of which the daily grind and struggle to make ends meet will not afford. While they aren't hiring cooks and farm hands to do the labor for them, I'll allow that might imply they can't, or it could just mean they love how it feels and want to instill those values to their kids. Being there in the first place takes a great deal of wealth or inheritance, anyone who's been without recognizes. Who are they supposed to be deceiving? Other rich folk?

[@msc4rt3r]

i agree. i’m not sure what people would have seen as better-them keeping the same silence about being billionaires but signaling that they’re rich by flaunting their money by buying expensive luxury goods? i have a strong dislike for billionaires, but to me, this is the most ethical way to live, despite how much money you have. i feel it’s already clear that someone in poverty wouldn’t have access to these resources or land, so i’m confused as to why people think they’re devoid of their humanity, not for being billionaires and hoarding money, but instead for not revealing that they are.

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

Exactly. If anything, having a farm, I think, is far more respectable than buying expensive mansions and jets and boats and the like.

[@ambienceandmusicstudios]

I was looking for a comment like this. Here in the UK, nice property in the countryside can be expensive. Farms are expensive. To me, living a quaint cottage life IS living a wealthy life. Being able to home-cook all of your meals is a luxury. Owning chickens or goats is a luxury. And it's a lifestyle I aspire to have one day if I ever became rich myself.

[@Rebeccas_penmanship]

@@ambienceandmusicstudios I too!

[@cxri9454]

Living like that while still hoarding billions which prevents other ppl from being able to live like that. Disgusting people

[@ellieaylen337]

I grew up poor on a farm. My mum baked and cooked from scratch out if necessity and our favourite weekend activity was blackberry picking- free food! It blows my mind when I see people idealising what was an incredible struggle for my parents.

[@adamm2091]

Oh man, blackberry picking, nostalgia trip

[@arisu_6635]

I mean true but many people who live on a farm are not poor? some are but some aren't how is baking bread and doing fun activities like that idealising struggles?

[@afreedahossain686]

⁠@@arisu_6635That’s why they said they “grew up poor on a farm,” not that they were poor because of the farm. Yet ironically the point flew over your head. Baking basic foods to you is “fun”, while for other people it’s out of necessity because they can’t even afford to throw down 3 dollars on a loaf of bread.

[@arisu_6635]

@@afreedahossain686 Alright, im sorry if i sounded rude or smth in my comment but let me try again. Cause i think MY point flew over YOUR head. I understand that some people are poor and some things some people do out of necesity but honestly you could say that about averything. Yes some people bake bread becouse they had to but it does not change the fact that that is a hobby of many that people do for fun. What i was trying to say that living in a cottage and baking bread is not idolising struggles that op's parents had. Becouse it sounds that only people with fianancial struggles live like that and it's simple not true, many people who were fiannancially stable lived on farms too. Living in a cottage and baking bread is simply fun it's in no way idolising proverty becouse how in the world would it be? It's like saying all people who bake bread as a hobby are idolising proverty becouse they bake bread. Or all farmers that are not poor are idolising proverty becouse they are not poor. I hope i made my point clearer becouse i meant no offense

[@johnolson5482]

The problem is talking about how looking poor and saying everyone struggles- for acceptance and to look cool- is ignoring the genuine struggles of poverty. The bread and farmhouse examples are just some of the ways rich people try to look cool and avoid criticism of the wealth they have. Baking bread can be fun, as well as living on a farmhouse, but not all the time if you depend on that to literally survive.

[@0liva__]

My mom once told me: for the rich to keep getting richer, the poor have to stay poor. I think that explains why they make us believe it's normal for poverty to exist and why they try to convince us that they're just like us. This way, we don't question the system or them; instead, we end up questioning ourselves, thinking it's our fault for not putting in enough effort.

[@TheGreatOutdoorsLLC]

The rich get richer and the poor stay poor because of poor decisions made. I disagree with a lot of this video. When people say “go work your ass off” as cheesy as it sounds that’s totally true. That doesn’t necessarily mean go work a har dony sucks 9-5 job although maybe that’s your best option at the moment but you need to use your brain and make smart decisions. I’m fortunate enough to have a great life, but I was working as a regular associate at Home Depot 9-5 and was able to quit from an online business I started and have done that full time for over a year now making more $ than I was an I plan to continue going up with it. God willing most people absolutely have the choice to change their life financially for the better you just have to get up and put the time in.

[@markusnystrom852]

@@TheGreatOutdoorsLLC Congrats on your good furtune, but just to be clear, your argument could just as well be stated: "poor people deserve their poverty because they're lazy". That's the other side of the "rich people deserve their wealth because they work hard"-argument. That's a pretty fat slap in the face to basically anyone actually working hard to survive and feed their kids. It's hard to know what a good economic decision is, what to invest in, what jobs will be worthwhile, what education to get. Not all online businesses take off, just to take an obvious example. So I think it's so much more complex than just telling people to "get up and put the time in".

[@zyna6251]

⁠​⁠@@TheGreatOutdoorsLLCthe american dream is just a dream, there is a system that makes it very hard for poor people to get rich. I live in the philippines where poverty is bad and the government is worse, how do you save up for money when you have a hard time just being able to eat? This is not a black and white situation where poor people just don't work hard, please be more educated and empathize with those who suffer. Bless your heart, being kind is free.

[@johnmilhem5660]

*This way, we don't revolt against the system or them. We are a larger cohort by numbers. But if you keep the hogs at bay, they won't come for the castle.

[@CRKramics]

​@@zyna6251 very true. I could say same happen around South East Asia. When "poor" Is trying the system always come back with something harsh. For example more high taxes and more expensive stuff.

[@emmettyoung7603]

i work 2 jobs and some of my friends don’t understand that i’m one missed day away from losing my house and car. i don’t blame them, they’re 20 and have a rich family. i work on a farm, my dad worked on a farm, my granddad worked on a farm, my great grandfather was a sharecropper in georgia. my family is lower middle class through tenacity and frugality. the rich people buying up land people need to make enough money to put food on the table is a huge problem where i live. people buy up hundreds of acres of land and just let it sit producing nothing. people put millions of dollars into land they don’t need to show their status and pretend to be farmers

[@vodkaboy]

Exactly, this is just a new status symbol.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Yeah these mega corporations working with the govt to devalue and buy your property is the downfall of America

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@vodkaboy I heard it is also a way to park money tax-free. Unlike most commodities, no new land is created when prices rise. This results in a market failure: where the price can only go up over time. Adam Smith Discussed this in The Wealth of Nations. The Monopoly game is based on Georgist propaganda designed to show how bad letting people buy up land is. (Georgism involves high land taxes and Basic Income (Pass Go, collect $200)).

[@Otyrr]

Modern Americans don't realize how close generational farms are from shutting down. One bad harvest season, a couple of dead cows on a milking plant, or even worse a sickness that runs through them. It can bankrupt a lot of farmers.

[@beth1979]

Yes I am worried about the land being unproductive, it could have terrible consequences for food security.

[@lucasspeirs]

"There are many poor people who work hard every day and will still be poor forever" this is the #1 thing a lot of people don't understand when they say you just have to "work hard" to be successful and wealthy. Everybody works hard, but working hard and still being poor is so depressing. I think there is a lot of luck and other factors out of most peoples control when it comes to who is successful and who is not. The world shouldn't be this way.

[@fleurviverre7097]

OR you need to learn how to work with wisdom, not just go working to work hard. Reach for the higher opportunities, pursue higher education, gain more skills, be flexible, be versatile, seek excellence, get better at making connections and networking, make good lifestyle choices and establish good habits, delay gratification, pray, be grateful, be selfless, etc etc. This takes sacrifice. Speaking from someone who came to this country as an immigrant’s daughter with no money, living in a cockroach infested small apartment, to now owning my own home in a good area. My family is a testament that it can be done without prior financial help. This learned helplessness is a fool’s mentality. ALSO, being rich is so relative. Do you have someone who loves you? A roof over your head? Food on your table? Shoes on your feet and clothes on your back? Count your blessings. You are rich. There will always be someone who has less than you.

[@gioumris2423]

How much money you get compared to how "hard" you work has to do with how much the products of your work are worth to the job market. A construction worker could be working as hard or even harder than a top performing athlete, let's say Ronaldo, but that wouldn't even matter, because the "context" of his labour is in a whole other category. There are possibly tens or even hundreds of millions of people that can replace or do the exact same task as the construction worker, but Ronaldo is at best only replaceable by a handful of other top performing players.

[@GasGrassOrAssetto]

If hard work paid off, donkeys would be covered in gold ✨️

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@fleurviverre7097 LMAO Did you really say people's struggles don't matter because someone has it worse? Oh wow, you sound so out of touch.

[@KO-sx9uy]

the world should be this way, it’s natural

[@MP-zi1tl]

One thing I would add is that literally everything is considered cool when you are are rich and trashy if you are poor. having a phone. having no phone. having an old phone. having the newest phone. big TVs. small TVs. No TVs. secondhand clothes. expensive brand clothes. DIY clothes. perfume. no perfume. doing drugs. minimalism. makeup. no makeup. you get the point.

[@canterswithyou]

Exactly.

[@Icewallowcome012]

Id like to see rich people make going to the dmv cool

[@juannavarrete9647]

maybe im imagining or misremembering but i remember when i was younger, the brands Croc and/or Champion were considered "not good". If you had those items/brands in your closet, it wasnt a good look. BUT now?? There are Crocs over $200, everyone wants one and champion is now one of the brands people want.

[@0aghost0]

the weird thing is that people who have money just buy more and think they need more. i saw a recent study was asking people how much they thought they needed to live COMFORTABLY and most people said they needed something over six figures. I saw people in the comments saying that they currently made over six figures who thought they needed to make at least $250k a year to live comfortably. Not in luxury, comfortably. Those with money don't understand the value of it. I had a boyfriend who had two parents who had a combined salary of well over $300k a year, living in north Florida (not a particularly expensive area) and had three kids. He claimed they weren't rich and struggled with money...and if they did, it was probably because they bought a new car every year or so, went on two expensive vacations every year (skiing, cruising, out of country), sent every kid to private school since pre-school, had a beach house and a time share at mountains a 12 hour drive away, etc - luxuries most families can never afford, yet he claimed they were struggling and poor.

[@RRM13]

Living like a poor person but knowing being rich doesn't give the same mental stress as actually being a real poor person. One can leave the situation at any moment. It's like an emergency drill compared to a real emergency. It's all theater, make-believe or looking good to the cameras... Hello from São Paulo, Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷.

[@subjekt5577]

Yup. None of these rich people ever faced food scarcity, had their power or water shut off, rely on broken down vehicles to get to work, or have to put up with life in the customer service industry

[@donaldlyons17]

@anti-islam9569 Strange why not just do whatever rather than look and live poor? I don't know some of them likely have serious disorders.

[@Petitedelight87K]

Exactly, I watched the farming lady video and had no idea she was well off like that. It makes her video disengenious. Yeah, it’s different when your really don’t have resources, especially when you’re sick or have a sick love one…

[@DawidDgk]

​@anti-islam9569because it is all a game. You not gonna be rich long time if you flashy

[@DawidDgk]

​@@subjekt5577most of the millionaires are self made but you have no idea how much work they've put in to be at that place.

[@robertobavarese]

Maybe i missed this as a non native English speaker but the fact that most of the wealth nowadays simply is inherited, hence gifted, removed rich people from reality. I once met a lady in paris and she told me she had too much stress at work. When I asked her what makes her schedule so busy she replied „looking for a dentist“ and „organising her trip in Europe“. That wad her stressful „work“ life.

[@bpj1805]

Most wealth is NOT inherited, at least not in the USA. The USA is one of the most economically mobile countries in the world, at least at the upper end. The wealth decay "time constant" is only about 3 generations. While there are of course many people who did inherit their wealth, this is not a representative sample. If you weight it by wealth, it's even more stark. Look at Elon Musk, Larry Page, and Sergei Brin. While (some of) their families might not have been poor, they were certainly not the upper echelon of rich people. Multimillionaires at best, not billionaires. 99% or mor of their wealth is therefore *not* inherited.

[@chumbucket4166]

I don’t think it should be considered as rich people being removed from reality. That is just their life and what they’re used to. Their struggles are just as valid as another person’s struggles. Albeit, their struggles generally take less of a toll on themselves. The point is, you can’t argue that someone’s reality is wrong. You can argue that they don’t have the perspective of a less fortunate person, but we still shouldn’t look down on them for that. You could argue that all of us are detached from reality, as we all come from different lives. Sometimes we even say ignorant things without realizing it. People grow and change to realize that their lives aren’t in one tiny bubble, and some don’t.

[@dianasailaubayeva]

Also some people tend to just blab about things when they meet people they don’t know what to talk about. And also sometimes people tend to say they’re exhausted from the planning/appointing, while actually what exhausts them is non-stop thinking about errands and maybe even thinking of other things, and they are not in a good contact with their analysing self enough to realise that it’s thinking itself that makes them tired, not the matter of thinking. So what they need is to be connected with themselves more and know when to stop. I don’t deny a matter of neuro divergency, too.

[@Beissi-nb9hi]

​@@chumbucket4166sorry but I have to disagree. Not all struggle and experience is equal. If you are hungry or you can't pay rent or medical bills that is absolute horror. If you worry about buying the 23rd dress... It's something else

[@JuniperWhiskeytart]

​@@chumbucket4166Maslow's hierarchy

[@pineappleginseng1557]

I have a close relationship with a wealthy family, and over the years, I've noticed that they never really indulged in a luxurious lifestyle. They drove only the same vehicles they bought in the 90s, and the most luxurious clothing they'd purchase would come from mid-tier places like Gap or random mall outlets. They just had no interest in designer brands or fancy vehicles. They're functional, dress like how you'd imagine a middle-class family. But I think part of the reason they do that is because they don't want to draw attention. Instead, I believe they use their money to help non-immediate members of their family with issues they incur. They're not necessarily frugal, but I think the idea of gaining wealth to them was more-so about helping supporting family members, so they struggle far less. I think that's a nice thing.

[@dixonhill1108]

You need to be self disciplined to make money. Self disciplined people are naturally cheap. Indulgent people lack the work ethnic to be well off.

[@fleur5782]

​@@dixonhill1108fr. Here in my Brazil it is common for people to go work in 1st world countries, doing really tough labour only to come back here with all the money and buy expensive things, live momentarily a lavish lifestyle only to impress others

[@Blue_Azure101]

@@dixonhill1108riiight the whole pull yourself up by the bootstraps idiocy. I see you MAGA

[@Circusbear]

@@Blue_Azure101lol work ethics is maga? Bruh did you snap your back doing that reach?

[@Blue_Azure101]

@@Circusbear sure. 👍🏼

[@sungrovemetaphysical8564]

Thak you!!!!! I have been living in my minivan out of economic desperation for 8 years. In this time, i have seen the yuppies in sprinter vans, school busses, rv's, campers, etc come out like an occupying force! The result of the yuppies coming out is a changed recreational experiance manycpeople have. I have a popup booth where i sell crafts i make for money. I make maybe a bit more than minimum wage after expenses. I cant choose to leave this life. However, the yuppies can go home any time they want!!! I love this video so much. Thank you for making it!

[@eunbis_rubi]

This is it. As someone who is getting a business minor, this is something I have noticed in both the classes I have taken and in business/financial focused media such as Bloomberg, that there is a real disconnect between the rich people who run our financial systems and governments and the reality of everyday people. One time there was a guy on Bloomberg talking about “household balance sheets”, which (unless you are an account for a living) most people do not have. Another time I was watching an interview from like last year with a representative from one of the US federal banks and he was saying the unemployment needed to *rise* to 4%-5% to stop inflation. The interviewer had to ask him “do you understand that means millions of people will face poverty and potential homelessness?” and the guy just didn’t respond.

[@lccsd2392]

Yes this is the actual point.

[@RedScareClair]

Neoliberalism and capitalism are horrid models and we just accept it as if it's the only way to live

[@Marie-di5gl]

Let the rich be unemployed. Eat the rich

[@copykaktus4193]

Unemployment under Capitalism is not a bug, it's a feature, as a capitalist you need unemployed labor pools to hold leverage over your workers and be able to underpay them

[@EricLeafericson]

The fact that they don't respond the the plight of poverty shows this isn't a political difference. This is a moral difference. We care about society & they don't.

[@tobeseve4020]

"Poverty isn't a necessity" SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

[@TheJingles007]

Depends on if you define if as a minimal amount of wealth or in comparison to the rich. I’d agree with the minimal amount, but in a broken world with money, someone will always end up with more than others

[@smurxxx0910]

Unless you're filing for disability.

[@josephcoates8591]

I understand. And I will preface this with saying that a lot of poor people aren’t lazy. But there will always be lazy people

[@FalloutUrMum]

Poverty isn't a new thing, poverty is the human norm. Our ancestors have always lived in mud huts, hunted and raised their own food, and lived "simple" lives with their immediate family. What's not normal is the modern world, it's us that are the exception with running water, wifi, electricity, smart phones, the ability to just go out and buy some food, and A/C units. The wealthy are the abnormal, and the true marvel is the economic system we've developed that has created this world we live in today. It's rare to have to build the house you live in today, historically building your home is what's normal

[@rawlsrules]

@@josephcoates8591 No kidding. Some of the laziest people I have known have been "well off", and not just relatively.

[@morpheus_066]

The first and only contact I’ve made with truly rich people made me hate them even more. She was a friend of mine for years, we never met because she lived in another state, I never knew she had so much money until she came to visit me months ago. We spent the night talking about life and she would say the most outlandish out of touch with reality things I’ve ever heard, like how strong she was and how she struggled and suffered so much, like she deserved an Oscar, because once she had to work a little bit more than she was used to or wear clothes that were not “in fashion” a few times. I tried to keep it to myself, until we talked about our day and while I was struggling to feed myself - sometimes had to eat noodles with butter, sometimes spoiled food -, she would tell me about how she spent thousands at a fancy restaurant eating rare and exotic fruits for lunch and some expensive 200 year wine. I was fed up, but kept silence, took a deep breath… Then she would talk about how she was sent to a jungle resort thing for years in her childhood to learn how to live by herself - as a child -, how her family paid for a VERY expensive lifestyle, how her father left her a two million inheritance money and how little that was compared to her sibling’s inheritance. I kept it to myself too… Until she got inebriated enough by a expensive whiskey she brought and insulted my apartment, telling me about how cheap and “ghetto” (she used a equivalent word in brazilian portuguese) it looked. I just kicked her out, I was losing my mind with anger. Note: this apartment was a regular urban apartment in the center of the biggest city of South America, something common, something normal, but too poor to her, enough to be seen as a “poor conceptual decor”, just a concept. This “concept” was my life and 99% of other people’s too. That night I’ve learned how disconnected from reality these people are, living in a bubble with people just like them. The worst part? She said she was not rich, that she doesn’t wanted to be rich, but live a comfortable life.

[@toshland5687]

I’ve heard the same corny shit from regular young progressive folks who act like their lives are harder than their own grandparents. Very entitled and vindictive attitudes abound and it’s not only the rich kids that act like this these days

[@luna-pt2gp]

Que palavra ela usou?

[@morpheus_066]

@@luna-pt2gp cortiço 🤡

[@TheCarlocaroline]

Jeepers! 😮

[@netomoreira3525]

@@morpheus_066 cortiço é mais pesado ainda do que Ghetto. Tava pensando que era "favela". Que merda, hein...

[@LynaGalliara]

Thank you so much for saying what you said about poverty. I feel strongly the same way, and it hurts that often, when I explain my views to others, they so passionately defend the current system. It hurts so much to know that so many believe that one must earn the right to a roof over their head. The world needs people like you, who can convey such an important message, about how this should not be the accepted state of things, as eloquently and as intelligently as you have here. Thank you Horses, you have made a difference with this video, through your outstanding art, philosophical, and communication talents.

[@geralt-of-rivia-z6f]

The moment you complain about the system, it's either you're lazy or a commie. Sometimes both. Ugh.

[@lebe220]

@@geralt-of-rivia-z6f Being connected with God is not to be part of the system

[@thatsacoollookingmissl-]

I feel as though you do need to earn your rights and that nothing is given from nothing. But, I can agree that without fair compensation for your work in life, life gets dreadful. It is the biggest issue of today. Where costs go up and your wage does not go with it.

[@goobz4446]

my friends i were talking and one said “i started thrifting a few years ago when it became trendy” i responded with “i’ve been thrifting my whole life cuz i couldn’t afford anything else” it’s sad that ‘looking poor’ is a trend now. especially since these people are buying all the clothes so now people who have no other choice but to thrift don’t have as many options, if any.

[@durpnurp7859]

oh especially rich people who buy from thrift stores just to resell (at a ridiculous price) on depop for pocket money/Instagram aesthetic. 🙃I had a classmate who was a millionaire do that.

[@whateverrandomnumber]

You need new friends.

[@catalinacaro8183]

And they made it more expensive

[@ChemistTea]

Lol what? I'm pretty sure there's enough clothes to thrift for everyone. Isn't it better to reuse them anyway, regardless of who does it.

[@fatemad4012]

​@@durpnurp7859she got milioner just by doing that?

[@meetyourbakerr]

"Uneasy Street" by Rachel Sherman is a fascinating book based on interviews with wealthy individuals, many of whom are in the top 1%, living in New York. It highlights a lot of the themes from this video, including a focus on meritocracy/hard work, as well as discussion on who is deserving of wealth. What's interesting (and honestly alarming) is that many wealthy people just...don't see themselves as wealthy in comparison to wealthier peers. Comparison really is the thief of joy, and, in this case, self-awareness

[@isaac6077]

Lets be honest. Yer not poor if you live in a developed country.

[@thecolorjune]

@@isaac6077id say this take is unfair, especially in countries like the US (if you consider it developed) which don’t have many public resources. If you’re homeless in America, or living below the poverty line, you are DEFINITELY poor. Also, poverty can be relative. Someone with $15 in one place can buy a whole weeks worth of food, but in another they might only be able to afford one meal. Someone with stability and family support and housing might have to survive on very low funds but is still somewhat comfortable due to safety. Another might make a decent amount of money but it’s not enough for housing and healthcare and safety and they will be struggling intensely. This can happen anywhere. Starvation, freezing to death, heatstroke, etc, happens in all countries.

[@saltiestsiren]

Once you're at the top, there's little reason to or reward in looking down.

[@Kolibri14427]

​@@isaac6077lol lmao even

[@danbeaulieu2130]

@@isaac6077 Oh? Please do tell.

[@JaySlay69]

Soul-crushing how in our society a minimalist and an ascetic lifestyle is misinterpreted by the upper middle-class and wealthier as poverty. "Hey, I lived in a van without Internet for a week, therefore I deserve as much respect for my hard work as poor people!"

[@hunterkauffman9400]

Seemed like the author interpreted the situation like that by portraying rich people living minimal lifestyles as fake playing poor

[@sbesbesbe]

@@hunterkauffman9400 It's not an interpretation, it's a fact. They are pretending to be poor. There is a reason why voluntary ascetism is a lifestyle dominated by people with generational wealth.

[@sbesbesbe]

Living in a van is not minimalist, it's environmentally disastrous and very expensive. Living in a studio apartment in a city with public transportation and relying solely on that public transportation is far better for the environment than living in the woods. It's wild that people actually think living in nature is something poor people can do.

[@JazzerciseJustice]

​@sbesbesbe living in your car is exactly what real homeless people resort to though so how is it expensive. Maybe its more expensive in the way that being poor is expensive because "cheaper" options are often more expensive in the long run but poor people are forced to buy them anyways.

[@sbesbesbe]

@@JazzerciseJustice OK this is hilarious, you think homeless people live in their cars because it's affordable? In the deep summer and winter the car has to run most of the time to keep you from dying while you sleep. Homeless people live in their cars because they have nowhere else to go.

[@noone-um4hk]

The rich have always been weird, that's what happens when you don't have to struggle to survive and become delusional and bored.

[@kingkooki7761]

i’ve never seen this as poverty or poor, if anything being able to afford to spend the time milking cows by hand and baking bread is a sign of wealth. someone with a ranch or cottage and all the time in the world is doing better than someone renting a house and buying groceries when they can

[@C-White-88]

Exactly

[@misaelcruz8984]

Bro exactly

[@jwa7241]

it's like the posh people in England. Most could afford to do so with their old money.

[@C-White-88]

@@jwa7241 so who cares what they do with their money, is there a rule somewhere rich people can't live on a farm. Who makes these rules where rich people are allowed to live. If I could afford to buy land and a farm I would an I wouldn't care who didn't like it. I live in the inner city of Baltimore I see these white people that have money but choose to move to the inner city, when the people who lived here all their lives would kill to move somewhere else. That's pretending to be poor. Having money to live anywhere but living in a tiny row house in Baltimore. Then they put up their BLM and love is love signs . Everyone that lives around here knows those kinda people are fake as a 3$ bill.

[@kess1en]

the real point of this video is to show the fact that being poor or in poverty doesnt allow a quiet life like this that the average person might assume. this type of living is ONLY achievable with immense amounts of wealth

[@prodfauxes]

My parents are absurdly wealthy and desperately try to live like they don’t. My dad especially: never invites his friends to their house, always dresses down, only drinks shitty liquor store beer, the whole thing. Both of my parents grew up extremely poor and I wonder sometimes if he doesn’t want to lose the simple happiness that came from not having everything all the time.

[@prodfauxes]

For the record I’m poor as shit lmao but I’m self sufficient and more importantly any success I get will be mine. I ain’t takin no old people money.

[@turtleanton6539]

​@@prodfauxesit slinds like one say ypy will. Unless tjet give it anyway

[@summerbrouwer4258]

Do you think there’s a reason they do that? What did they save the money for, just stability?

[@TjoaWeiHan]

​@@summerbrouwer4258my parents were also from a poor family, it's like a thing of habit to not spend so much money. Or... It's just Chinese things in general

[@zoya5331]

if they were brought up poor theyre probably just used to living like that

[@egg7739]

I had a friend in school who was rich. Her father was a military man and was well off enough that the mother could just do whatever she wanted. Me and my sister had a very poor background with my single mom struggling to make ends meet. I would be fuming at this friend of mine for even comparing our lives, or making light of my struggles. She would say that she'd often rummage through the garbage like me in search for clothes because "it's better than wasting money right??" or how little they'd spend on everything and go literally nowhere to not spend a cent like me, when they could and I couldn't. When we felt trapped and they didn't because they knew they had that choice. She would make it seem like my problems were things I chose to do to save up money like her instead of what it actually was: desperation due to lack of financial stability. Even today I can say I never want to see her again or hold a conversation with her, it just boils my blood to remember how angry I felt as a little girl/teenager for having my struggles so coldly denied or broke down so she could be seen in better light or use it as an aesthetic.

[@nmo3148]

Hugs! For some people everything is a competition. including suffering.

[@RevShifty]

We used to call people like that 'tourists' growing up. They like the aesthetic of what they think they see, or the attitude they like to see underlining it all, or a million other things that may or may not actually exist. Just emotional tourists hitching a ride along with something they find interesting for the moment. And bonus points if it feeds their superficial need for fake intellectual depth or substance.

[@abbsbrady7264]

it sounds like your just a jealous friend who hates her for her parents having money. From what you told, it’s clear your in the wrong.

[@justjackie4394]

​@@abbsbrady7264garbage human.🙄

[@egg7739]

@@abbsbrady7264 i understand it might seem that way, but there is a lot I have not disclosed like manipulation, bullying and physical violence. It's ok if you think that, at the end of the day i know what i went through as a kid and how that affected me, so much so I'm in therapy today. I don't want anyone to go through those types of toxic friendships like I have so I will share them when I see fit or when it helps me or whenever I want because its nothing to be ashamed of, if anything its a discussion to be had about how different socio-economic classes can affect kids behaviour and interactions, and could be a trigger for bullying. Trust me (or not) when i say i am not jealous of her, I am aware she had and still has a lot going on in her life, as we all do. I will keep my distance tho, she never respected my boundaries or myself, and I don't want that in my life anymore.

[@elizabethstein9698]

I honestly never questioned if the woman in the videos was poor or not. I was just mainly interested in seeing her make food entirely from scratch.

[@bengjie]

I'm editing my post because we cant just have a conversation without acting like we each know each other and that gives each the right to just be a little too judgemental. The internet was great before the people arrived. Peace out.

[@StephanieBravo-90]

That is why he said that they are so detached from the reality of being poor that they cannot even fake it well.

[@scottishdmck2875]

@@StephanieBravo-90 They’re not trying to fake it, God forbid that someone born into money just wants to be farmers

[@xpusostomos]

What do you mean by poor, certainly farms cost millions of dollars, but it's usually all tied up in the land that may have gone back generations, and a big bank loan too, thus a lot of farmers (not all) do live modest lives.

[@bengjie]

@scottishdmck2875 point being the aren't living the poor farmers life.

[@bengjie]

@xpusostomos agreed. The big difference to me is, all that retro old school stuff they bought wasn't cheap. Unless they inherited the stuff which is usually the case with farm families

[@FischerFilmStudio]

I wouldn’t call it poverty, I’d call it simplicity. Many people dream of a simple life where money isn’t a worry and people can just live simply. Unfortunately, this is a rare lifestyle in capitalism and thus only the rich can afford it. It isn’t “cosplaying as the poor”, it’s a longing for a more down to earth existence.

[@shorterstax]

I was thinking the same thing too. I agree with the overall sentiment of the video, but the examples I felt like were reaching.

[@gooodels]

i agree

[@dreamwithinadreamfilms]

It’s both.

[@bleeem]

@@shorterstax Ofc it is reaching, the creator of the video itself is not connected to actually simple people that live simple lives, i would even guess he is a rich person that feels a good feeling when he trashes other rich people, if he knew anything about people that live in the rural parts of the world he would know thats how they live, yes that life they show on their channel is way too pretty, but what they do its the exact same thing as poor rural people do. Even his comments about "the world now its all about produtivity" doesnt apply to rural parts of the globe, because they live in their own communities, they are self sufficient and dont need to overwork themselves the same way we do in the big cities

[@Kar98kdog]

I agree with this, it even ties into some of his points, with the hate of the rich, or at least, the super-lavish lifestyles they live growing, the simple homestead is charming and, depending on who you ask, a happier lifestyle.

[@cinzeal]

I am a former homeless person, this video evoked emotion in me. Poverty isn't a necessity or an accessory. Brilliant video, I loved it. Thank you. ❤

[@niewieder99]

Glad you’re doing better mate.

[@dr1flush]

@@Njordin2010 under capitalism I have to put my needs above yours. That's just how it is. So instead of complaining about the players complain about the game. You're not changing anything by complaining about the people. No one owes you any favors . Poor people cosplay like they are rich all the time. In fact a lot of poor people are poor because of this. He is directly complaining about the jet Blu kids living a simple life. He is directly complaining about rich people acting poor. That implies being poor is some terrible thing. As long as you can afford necessities and a roof over your head it's really not that terrible. It only becomes terrible when you start to envy people. Personally I found my days were more interesting when I had no money. Poor people act rich and I don't complain. You can act however you want unless you're literally hurting others. This guy's feelings are hurt because he's filled with envy imo . Again he's implying it's really just terrible to be poor and yes I'll agree it's terrible if you can't afford rent or food but I doubt he's in that situation where he can't work. I don't get this perspective and it just seems like envy. The rich will always be out of touch with reality. Did you ever think that's maybe why Marie Antoinette wanted to pretend to be poor, so she could understand. I'm not saying that's a fact but it is possible right? There will always be poor people under capitalism, it literally has to be this way for capitalism to function. Instead of crying about the players you need to cry about the game because the game is what's fubar.

[@dr1flush]

@@Njordin2010 something else you might not understand is that once people know you have money they treat you differently. They will use you for their gains. So it's not evil to live a simple life or not flaunt wealth or to even act poor ( unless you're abusing it like begging for money) . You'd be surprised how many people will just use you for money and you can never really know if they are with you because you are fortunate. I don't need to act a certain way because I have money. This really just comes across as some deep seeded envy imo. If it's evil for rich to pretend to be poor that implies it's good for poor to pretend to be rich. So is it?

[@Njordin2010]

First thank you for engaging in good faith discussions. I see your point and don't want to disagree with you just for the sake of it but i still think that this is not the point of the video. You are right with what you just said but not in the context given here (in my opinion). You don't roleplay and show yourself living a poor lifestyle and faking doing manual labor on social networks to millions of people while saying 'its such a hard life tilling the fields, am i right fellow poor folks?' Privately nobody does care or get offended by.

[@squireltag1000]

​@@dr1flushI hate to break it to you, but poor people get used 'for money' just as often. Its call minimum wage employment... Also, bad doesnt equal evil. Being unnecessarily hyperbolic while misrepresenting the content isnt helpful. You seem to think any of this is personal, when it's not.

[@citlallicontreras1879]

I lived in poverty during middle and high school, my mom worked her ass off so I could go to college. Once I graduated I worked my ass off so I could get employed. It took me almost 3 years and finally have a job that makes me have a decent life. My mom also has a business that lead my family out of poverty. But that feeling never goes away, the guilt of spending too much money, the feeling of always having to save because you don't want to be broke again, the constant worrying, it's a trauma living through it and it's so hard to grow out of it.

[@annerigby4400]

For Marie Antoinette's farming moments, there was a term for it: "batifoler dans les champs" which would translate to "playing joyous fun games in the fields". She did not do this alone (real farmers wouldn't have counted). Her following would also dress up and participate (voluntarily? not sure) in the joyous field games. All fun and games, as everyone knows was the peasant lifestyle of the 1700s... lucky them, right? Apparently, it was viewed as healthy and they would pretend to work in the fields. I wonder what that looked like. I also wonder how it would have made the local peasants feel... A person once told me that my painting jeans would be worth a few hundred dollars in New York.... I guess that was true. I thought she was joking. The jeans in question are about twenty years old, shapeless, have several holes and are covered in paint stains from when a rag was out of reach, which happens a lot. I knew someone who had grown up in very modest circumstances, during WWII in the UK. As a young adult, they were not rich, not very educated, but they were hard-working, keen learners of everything, and got really lucky in that the people they worked for recognised their abilities and this person was given a lot of chances, which they took. So this person's financial circumstances went from being 'paycheck to paycheck' mode to being able to invest money - nothing extravagant, just much better than before. By the time this person retired, they were comfortable. They invited some members of their family to come and visit and informed the potential visitors that they could rent a house nearby for 'only' a thousand dollars a week. The invited members had to laugh because of the person's total disconnect from what life was like for mere mortals such as the invited family members. A thousand dollars was a tremendous amount of money for them and they certainly didn't have it handy for a week in a house. My point here is that people who used to be poor, but then improve their circumstances financially can rapidly forget the value of money for those who have less than they do. Those who have never been poor are totally clueless.

[@valerie_420]

Wow, reading that really makes you want to eat rich people! 😋

[@justwaiting5744]

You made some great points. Thank you.

[@Rainkit]

The worst part about Marie Antoinette is that likely didn't even happen. Many news papers made up stories to justify hatred for her and her eventual death. Its almost impossible to know what she actually did because of it.

[@thecolorjune]

Well, in their defense, would they be able to find cheaper accommodations? Besides staying with the relative, which may or may not be possible. In the UK, the average hotel room cost is $120 per night. This would fit at most 4 people, so if a large group of family visited they may need more space. That means a week’s cost would be $840 for 4 people, or $1680 if they needed two rooms. Sharing a house for $1000 could then potentially be more affordable. That all being said, a week in hotel rooms is quite expensive and not a small deal. At that point, a visit would need to be shorter or not include over night parts. That, or they will have to find hotels with good deals and low ratings. Perhaps then it would be possible to find cheaper accommodation depending on their exact location. At least where I am from it is very unlikely to find accommodation for 4 people under $100 anymore. Sometimes a motel in the middle of nowhere will cost $60 if it has bugs and sketchy locks. Also if they rent a house they could cook all their own meals and not spend any at restaurants. If it’s a large group that could save a lot of money. Still could be a huge expensive trip regardless.

[@annerigby4400]

@@thecolorjune They all lived in the US and typically, the family would accommodate visitors in their own home. This particular relative simply thought it'd be nicer to rent a house for a couple of weeks.... totally not possible for the potential visitors. The cost of other accommodation doesn't even come into it. The potential visitors were not the stay-in-hotels type because of cost and the inviter would have realised this if he remembered that just twenty years prior he had also been in the same mindset. My point was that even people who have known living from paycheck to paycheck can forget what it was like and what the value of money is when you don't have anywhere near more than enough.

[@Moon-Drop93]

As someone who use to be an amazon delivery driver I always found it interesting that it was the middle/lower class people that had the expensive cars and sometimes bought expensive items while the rich from what I saw drove normal boring cars and usually ordered items that could be bought from Walmart lol. They had other ways to show how very rich they were it just wont be in a way that's easy to spot if you were trying to find a rich person in the wild they're definitely doing whatever they can to come across as "normal" in public. edit: Just an fyi I'm not shaming or defending anything this was just an observation I had while being a delivery driver if anything I too would be part since I also like to buy "expensive" shit when I can because who wouldn't after a hard month, months, year of work

[@galaxydogs5828]

Lol yeah this is so true, Now I don't buy into venerating the rich blindly, but it does need to be pointed out as you observed that a certain amount of us shoot ourselves in the foot financially because we struggle to learn how to delay gratification and to identify what our needs vs wants are.

[@sbesbesbe]

You mean the rich are greedy and cheap? Lower income people also give far more of their income to charity and family. If being a miserly POS is how you get rich maybe that's a clue to why it's wrong for people to have way more than they need.

[@visionplusdrive]

Rich people buy assets that put money back into their pocket and poor people buy liabilities that make them feel rich but actually takes money from their pockets.

[@sbesbesbe]

@@visionplusdrive The implication of that statement is that if poor people only spent their money wisely they wouldn't be poor, which is complete bullshit.

[@visionplusdrive]

@@sbesbesbe that’s not what I was implying at all… though I can see how it may come off that way. just saying, there’s a reason the rich often get richer while the poor stay poor. The Bezos/Musk/Gates/Buffets of the world don’t need to buy things to give the impression they’re well off, it all starts with their mindset. Something I wish I had learned earlier in life.

[@justze6710]

Poor people pretending to be rich and rich people pretending to be poor What a world we live in

[@ffnovice7]

The horseshoe meme is real

[@rayesafan9628]

Yeah, playing pretend is not reserved for either side of the class spectrum

[@gremlin623]

This is technically true?- but one side isn’t a mockery and the other is. The rich imitating the poor is insulting and distasteful. The poor pretending to be rich is just trying to seem “””put together””” to be taken more seriously. It may also be to cope.

[@wc1937]

​@@gremlin623Generally, "the poor acting rich" don't face mockery until they run into someone who is actually well off/in a better circumstance. It's just usually a quieter matter where they're mostly laughed at behind their backs. Where I live, plenty of people will spend their entire savings or even go into debt for some luxury brands or the newest iPhone, just to maintain appearances. It's very sad.

[@letsomethingshine]

@@gremlin623 It's kind of like the whole "cultural appropriation" thing. But I don't believe life-styles nor cultures are real-natural/consequential things nor sacred things, just synthetic things. I think the rich who try to "blend in with the normies" are just trying very desperately to fit in with wider culture. Even fashion had to adjust to "look ghetto" at one point.

[@Palmtreeshinobi]

I think it’s less about “pretending to be poor” and more about reaching an enlightened state where you realize material things don’t make you happy. So even though you can afford them, you opt to find happiness elsewhere

[@Madamchief]

Good take 👍

[@IRLWojak]

Agreed

[@darkspacie]

YES YES YES my thought the whole video

[@GunnarMcGriff]

Was thinking the same thing. To be fair to the video creator, that rich farmer couple is still being ostentatious by broadcasting their life and building a social media following-- but the truth is, it's hard for rich people not to seek their own self-interest because that's invariably how they socialized from a young age. But even if they're not full-on selfless Buddhas, they're still following a very understandable urge toward simplicity which this video essay refuses to understand. I started off wanting to like this video, what with the cool art style and all, but his whole interpretation smacks of resentment and bad faith.

[@rem-kira2225]

If that were the case, the enlightened rich people would ensure that they spend their money to help the poor on an every day basis. That is certainly not the case. If all the enlightened rich would come together and help the poor to come out of poverty and lead decent lives, then I would agree with this statement. If material things don't make them happy/don't matter, surely they can spend their money to help people.

[@iwillhaveanorder5000]

Calling a farm with plenty of resources and food ‘poverty’ is a bit stuck up; having a well-fed and happy family is 100x more valuable than money.

[@toshland5687]

Did the family call it poverty or this KZbinr guy call it that?

[@OmaticayaWarrior]

Modern day farming requires a lot of money. It also has a very high suicide rate. Its kind of a gamble with your profits because you never know exactly how much your going to make that year.

[@vibaj16]

Having a well-fed and happy family requires money

[@sakuraesther6309]

They have a billiona dollar empire .Yes its good to feed your children and love on them regardless but they have waayyyyyyyyyyyy moooooorreeeeeee moneyy. To make that easy for them

[@leoprg5330]

To me they are not fetishizing poverty, they are teaching their kids a valuable life lesson, and to me what they do is luxury -eating food without chemicals, being in touch with nature.. During history that lifestyle would not be considered poverty. They are just monetizing their lifes the same way the Kardashians monetize their narratives. Nothing wrong with that, at least others can be reminded they can grow or bake their own food too.

[@kaylamcghee14]

As someone who grew up in one of Americas poorest zipcodes. Being able to provide for yourself from the land is wealth in itself. I never saw Hannahs video as pretending to be living in poverty this is simply her living life with nature. I watched her videos thinking wow this is wealth so i think its pretty interesting you saw it pretending to be poor.

[@sarahmchugh4169]

I agree. The clips he showed didn't make me think they were trying to look poor. Maybe there are other videos, but he should have shown them in the video if so. It makes me think he has some strange views on what poverty is.

[@rphb5870]

indeed, it cost a lot of money to buy a farm. I don't know how it is in America, but in my country its an idiom. "det koster en bondegård" (it cost a farm) meaning this is expensive as hell. Owning a farm is wealth, pure and simple

[@woadblue]

It's dishonest in that they aren't truthful about their true capabilities. If they said "hey we're disgustingly rich but we choose to live quaint lives" it wouldn't be as bad. And honestly it's gross to think people with more money than they could spent in 100 life times choose to live like regular folk yet contribute nothing to society aside from "look at us". They didn't even work for the money it's inherited. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't try to hide this about themselves, but the do. Not giving all the facts still counts as lying.

[@rphb5870]

@@woadblue there is nothing modest or poor about living on a farm. Since time immemorial farms have been synonymous with wealth. Beyond that, people can spend their money as they like. It is important to not get cut up in the mentality of envy. Inheritance isn't an unfair way to get wealth. its called pedigree

[@woadblue]

@@rphb5870 I never said it was "unfair" and I never implied envy of any sort. Making shit up and then counter arguing whatever it is you assume isn't making a point, you're just debating yourself at that point. Reread my comment, all I said was they're imposters. I don't need randos online to explain to me the intricacies of agriculture. I've been a participant for almost two decades. Lmfao at "since time immemorial farmers have been associated with wealth. Yeah, the orchards I worked at last time made about three million dollars and then put about 90 percent of that back into the farm. Your comment makes no sense. It's extremely naive and narrow minded to assume all human beings strive for riches. Basic indeed. It's not like I would turn the money down but to assume that's anyone's only goal is to be stinking rich is kind of depressing man.

[@theresemalmberg955]

I notice that none of these folks who brag about their frugal lifestyle live in a mobile home park. Oh, no! Most of them have their own homes on their own property (which takes money), and from what I can see from their videos, they aren't living with mismatched furniture and accessories scrounged from the local thrift shop. There's a whole lot of us who were never able to get that far in life to be able to own a home. People end up living in mobile home parks because they have historically been the cheapest housing around. Because they have so few options, this is a selling point to investors who buy up these communities and start jacking up rents and fees. Because where else are these people going to go? They can't afford house payments and even apartments in some communities are out of reach. But again, I do not see any of these "cry poor" rich folks moving into any of these communities and making videos about their experience. Wonder why?

[@jansi8478]

The van-life lifestyle does have a steep entry fee, especially if you want it custom and all nicely picked out, but from that point onward it is a lifestyle which has a pretty low footprint (both financial and otherwise) compared to the average wealthy lifestyle of a large house, many cars, and frequent travel. It is a mistake to see all cases of this as a poverty LARP, they may simply be more comfortable with fewer possessions (obviously they can at any point dimply buy what they need), or they could be making a conscious effort to live a simpler, more humble life.

[@theresemalmberg955]

@@jansi8478 There is a big difference between the van-life lifestyle and living in a mobile home park. Despite their name, mobile homes are not very mobile at all. Yes, they can be moved--sometimes. So can a conventionally-built house. But the reason you don't see either moved very often is that it simply costs too much to do so, and in the case of the mobile home there are zoning restrictions and age of home restrictions to deal with. So that is why I say park tenants who own their own home often find themselves trapped when conditions change for the worse. Now I have no problem with people being comfortable with less and living a simpler, more humble life. But where I see a problem is with people bragging about living below the poverty line in circumstances that are anything BUT poor. They are NOT living in low-income neighborhoods. They are NOT living in subsidized housing. They don't have to put up with some of the crap that comes with living around people who are truly poor. Let me put it this way, there are neighborhoods where you'd better not advertise how well off you are compared to the rest of the people around you. Many years ago when I was new to both low-income and mobile home park living, I had problems with theft. The PARENT of one of the kids I caught stealing told me point blank, "This is a trailer park. If you don't want something stolen, keep it locked up out of sight." Poverty LARP's don't have to deal with that crap. They are not struggling to make their videos over the sound of loud music coming from several doors down--loud enough that you can't hear yourself think even with all the windows shut. I don't hear them talking about what it is like to live with a meth lab and/or drug dealer next door and where you don't dare say anything because it is not safe to do so. You get the picture.

[@KnjazNazrath]

@@theresemalmberg955 I used to live in a low income housing environment which went by the government name of section 9. Down the road from me a group controlled areas of this section in order to run their illegitimate businesses. They possessed no registered or unregistered firearms, but regularly used stolen vehicles and mind altering inhibitors and only used cash for financial purchases. If anyone wished to settle unfinished altercations, they would scatter and regroup in the hopes that said individuals would not ascertain the locations of their domiciles whether private or illegitimately commercial. They would imply to the local residents that they were dangerous people who regularly disobeyed the law. Eventually, they were incarcerated by an employee of the state who had been engaged in surveillance of their group for some time whilst taking the identity of a fiscally inept itinerant. This put an end to their operations, and they were deftly supplanted by another group from an adjacent low income housing environment whom did indeed possess unregistered firearms. I left shortly after this to pursue gainful employment which was not forthcoming in the area. I moved to a middle income housing area, completed a degree and a course of postgraduate training, and will now likely be homeless due to a lack of job opportunities. Thank you for reading my personalised copypasta. I felt it was relevant to the conversation.

[@SpaceCoffee700]

​@@KnjazNazrathI'd say try out the Midwest post COVID brought a surge of income increases that aren't being lowered as I've heard in moderate expense states in fact inflation has deflated by half With that said my nephew that works overnight at McDonald's at 18an hour paid off one home since the lockdown stopped and has a fixer for $9000 easy 77k home once fixed

[@SpaceCoffee700]

​@@KnjazNazrathwith a degree you'll definitely get work It ain't flyover country anymore

[@pchiare]

1:13 HORSES NEARLY BROKE CHARACTER

[@randomtinypotatocried]

It always weirds me out rich people who pretend to be poor. I've had periods of homelessness where I ended up living in my jeep and relying on leftover food from the restaurant I worked in (keep losing housing due to landlords selling the place)

[@Reverse_Cat_Cowgirl]

Yes, I get that feeling when I make the comparison of people living out there vehicles vs people cos-playing it. The latter will own a $900 portable air conditioner, wifi internet connection and what not... it's verybizarre.

[@mainmane]

nice

[@peterwallis4288]

​@@Reverse_Cat_CowgirlI don't see what's so bizarre. If you had enough money to make it comfortable, it seems like it would be a nice way to live. You can pack up and move around seeing the country.

[@chanzbaldonadi4824]

@@peterwallis4288 Yea but these people have full time jobs that dont pay you enough for a 1 bedroom. They dont have a ueen bed or a kitchen in there jeep that might break down.

[@peterwallis4288]

@@chanzbaldonadi4824 yes. I realise. But just because you chose to live in a van doesn't mean your pretending to be poor.

[@sofiipote7]

When I was younger I used to work in a lot of rich people's houses, and came to realize that they would often have two sets of things, one luxurious and beautiful, and one that looked like something I owned, and they would often use the poor-looking one over the rich one. For example, they would have a huge dinning room with a beautiful long wooden table, everything looking like it came out of an interior design magazine. But they wouldn't eat or sit at that table ever. Instead, they would use the one in the kitchen, that was small and rather uncomfortable- the one that reminded me of the table I had at home. There's a lot of other examples I came across over the years, including millionaires who own mansions but spend most of their time in what they call "the cozy room", which is a small living room that looks just a little better than the one in any of our houses (I think it was drew gooden who talked about this in a video). This weird rich people impulse of owning beautiful expensive things but also having another "poor" or "common people" version of it that they use instead has always baffled me.

[@АлександрИванов-т7н4е]

It helps to just think of people as people. Having money doesn't change who we are. I think a lot of people wish they had a bigger table when they are inviting guests. Or maybe a big pool to swim, a fancy dress to wear or a extravagant piece of furniture to sometimes sit in. And having money can get you that. But nobody likes to sit alone at a giant table and having to care about your look 24/7.

[@sofiipote7]

@@АлександрИванов-т7н4е what I meant to say is these families would never use these things, and that counts for pools and other stuff too. Not even when I was a family friend and went to visit them (I think I mentioned but a long-time friend of mine did the same and in over 16 years of friendship we only used the living room once or twice at most). This wasn't an only person living alone, they were entire families cramming around a small table and leaving their beautiful big table (and their entire living rooms, might I add) unused. I live in a one-room apartment and I use every inch of space, so I can't relate with having beautiful and huge spaces and never using them.

[@naazahs9045]

​@@АлександрИванов-т7н4еBingo !

[@zhabo3963]

​@@АлександрИванов-т7н4еthis would mean they don't need those extras. Therefore it's just a waste. Hence they do not deserve those things if they don't need them. Right?

[@АлександрИванов-т7н4е]

@@zhabo3963 that is the definition of luxury. Something that is not necessary. Almost everyone dreams of having something that will not be used everyday and instead brought out on special occasions

[@lych2102]

This phenomenon can be seen in the art world. Van Gogh only sold a single painting in his life and he offered his ear as a present to a prostitute, but his paintings are worn on fashion accessories that cost a fortune by rich people, today. His work has now become a pretentious staple of expensive enthusiasm for art, while it could be a means of bringing sympathy to/portraying a true picture of what it's like being poor.

[@ABCDuwachui]

That’s not true about Van Gogh.

[@helegis]

Not true at all lol

[@lych2102]

@@ABCDuwachui my bad :-) I tried to correct it a little bit and I should have refreshed my memory, but the general sentiment stays. A poor humble artist being used as a token by rich people.

[@lych2102]

@@ABCDuwachui It is also seen with other artists too. I'm a painting student and deal with this stuff alot, I'm just really distracted. Sorry about the confusion, I hope it helps

[@LuminaNinetales]

Simply because the artist industry and the "art trading" industry are two different and separated things: - Artists struggle to sell their art to a publisher or comissionners. - Art galleries offer any art that would help rich people do tax evasion/money laundering, but also sell art to collecors. Rich people never liked art more than ordinary people. It's just a conveignant way to trade money.

[@AllisonSherman657]

"Sometimes, it's not about having a talent, skill, or passion. But what if I told you that with the right investment, you can still achieve your goals? No talent, no skill, no passion, but good investment can bring you financial freedom. Don't underestimate the power of smart financial decisions!!!!!!!!"

[@rougeur]

I agree with you and I believe that the secret to financial stability is having the right investment ideas to enable you earn more money, I don’t know who agrees with me but either way I recommend either real estate or bitcoin and stocks..

[@face2lune]

I’ve been diligently working, saving and contributing towards early retirement and financial freedom, but since covid outbreak, the economy so far has caused my portfolio to underperform, do I keep contributing to my 401k or look at alternative sectors to meet my goals?

[@AllisonSherman657]

@@face2lune Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances...

[@face2lune]

@@AllisonSherman657 How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.

[@AllisonSherman657]

@@face2lune I get guidance from *Susan Tori Davis* ,Most likely the internet should have her basic info..

[@ANNIHILISTIC]

I'm am reminded of the 90's hit 'Common People' by the band Pulp. In the song a rich girl tries asks a man to show her this lifestyle and he tells her: "Rent a flat above a shop, cut your hair and get a job Smoke some fags and play some pool, pretend you never went to school But still you'll never get it right, 'cause when you're laid in bed at night watching roaches climb the wall If you called your dad he could stop it all, yeah You'll never live like common people You'll never do whatever common people do You'll never fail like common people You'll never watch your life slide out of view And you dance and drink and screw Because there's nothing else to do Sing along with the common people Sing along and it might just get you through Laugh along with the common people Laugh along even though they're really laughing at you And the stupid things that you do Because you think that poor is cool"

[@SeanPatnode]

I had to scroll way to far down to see this, anytime I see this kind of stuff mentioned i think about how completely that song just perfectly captured it. "you'll never fail like common people" Jarvis cocker is quite the talent imo

[@ANNIHILISTIC]

@@SeanPatnode It's a great piece of songwriting for sure!

[@Blullaby]

Very powerful words! I'll give this song a listen! Thank you! (: Edit: very enjoyable song ! I'm happy to have discovered this interesting band !

[@grilledflatbread4692]

@@Blullaby william shatner makes a very interesting cover of that song. Yes, original star trek shatner.

[@Blullaby]

@@grilledflatbread4692 I'll check it out ! Thank you for the recommendation (: Edit: it was nothing I was expecting, but very worthwhile;

[@narinelimanoff4715]

Oh WOW this is an eye opener. I love watching tiny house, or off-greed, or van life. Often watching these videos I ask myself "how do they do it?" I can't just pick-up and go. What am I doing wrong? Now I see that some are not true minimalist leaving. It's just an act. But I'm curious if they realize. Thank you!!!

[@Musical_Pigeon]

While at work when I'm cleaning a room sometimes I turn the TV on and listen to whatever the guest was watching. One was a show of people moving into brand new tiny homes built custom for them. This one couple wanted to go from a huge house packed with stuff to a tiny house, another had their house sold out from under them and wanted a cottage like tiny house and the ability to have their kids and many grandkids stay with them. I had to leave to another room to do stuff but at the end of the episode the people were driving away happy with a new tiny home. I was mostly under the impression that it was something done by people who want to down size and save money, maybe because they don't have much. Nope, this show was brand new houses custom for these people. The first one even had a draw bridge patio so they could still train birds and stuff. They could pull it up and cover the front door, so they had to put a hatch in the back.

[@flavoredwaters]

The van life ones are usually real but there are some ridiculous rich people who do those aswell

[@RingsOfSolace]

Honestly, that's what dissuaded me from the idea. I actually ran the numbers for my situation, and I realized... ahhh, they have money. That's why they don't have to worry about a several year gap in their resumé, it doesn't matter to them.

[@sodalitia]

Ahahaha, but they never really went off-greed. How fitting!

[@fixsationon7244]

​@@flavoredwaters you run more into smaller biggest ones in long form content more than in short form content. That's my experience.

[@CarlosMedina-mx1jl]

I don't think most people want to be "rich", they just want a life without problems, and it just so happens most of those problems can be easily solved with lots of money

[@3nertia]

Thanks capitalism!

[@RobotronSage]

It's more like a lot of problems are created with a lack of money circulating in our economy because it's all hoarded by corporate ''elitists'' and such. And by a ''lot'' i mean basically all of the problems we have are because of ''capitalism'' really. When everyone is trying to profit from eachother it's not really a system that is going to help the most people, but rather, the least.

[@NoaThePineconeTaker]

So; what is there to do? Give up on escaping the rat race, and wait for society to change around us? What about us individuals fearing poverty, or living in a dead-end miserable life? If we cannot become rich, can we simply never be truly happy and fulfilled? It was once comforting and uplifting to hear that we deserve to be happy, but not so any longer. The message seems to be that we simply aren't allowed to be, and therefore will not be; so what's deserved really doesn't matter.

[@youtubename7819]

I had an ex boyfriend who went to private school all his life, parents bought him a car in highschool, weeks long vacations every year growing up, yada yada, because his immediate family had no less than FOUR families paying rent to them. Yet he continually tried to convince me that they were poor because both of his parents CHOSE to have jobs. It was obvious to me that he did this out of a sense of shame, but lacked the introspection to get that and respond accordingly with, you know, actually helping the poor or doing anything productive with his life. He was incredibly sheltered and stupid and I do not miss him lol.

[@mustaqimarifin3820]

ahahahha thanks for that story

[@Dragonaiis]

that’s awful, glad he’s an ex now lol that being said, I would also label myself as more privileged than others and wonder how I could be more understanding and sensitive to people with less privilege than myself?

[@youtubename7819]

@@Dragonaiis since you are asking, I will provide pretty much the one thing a privileged person could say that would make me believe they get it. “I’ve never been poor and likely never will be. I have no idea what it’s actually like to work on my feet forty hours a week but not be able to afford necessities, never retire, and get told it’s all my fault because I’m lazy. But I’m not a lunatic. I believe others when they tell me how bad it is out there. I donate at least ten percent of my income to charity every year, I support unions, and I always vote to increase the social safety net. Ive never voted Republican because I’m not a greedy psycho. I know there’s no excuse for an unlivable wage or the exploitation of minors. I know the working class props up my entire lifestyle at their own painful expense, so it would be absurd and extremely harmful to try to evade or lower my tax rate. I was born lucky but I’ll be damned if I die evil.”

[@Dayleaf404]

Yea I had something similar and he wud look down on me for not having an apartment at 19 or money to get therapy it was so weird

[@geg754]

I also feel like that i dont have privelege sometimes but i believe that i do have it. But i am not that sheltered to believe that people just have to work hard to achieve success.

[@tsbrownie]

Had a friend in an MBA program. He was broke, really broke. He'd paid for his whole education and was $30K in dept. A female friend came from a wealthy family. How wealthy? Her monthly car insurance payments were more than he spent in total to live for a month. She had a grant to go to school. She asked if he was going to Africa on safari with them after graduation, he said he had no money. She told him to go to the ATM. He said it was empty. She rolled her eyes and told him to have his parents put more money in (boy was HE stupid!) Her family owned acres of land in the most expensive region of the US. I was not shocked by this, I've gone to school with, taught, worked with and for these people. They truly have no idea about money except 1 thing: THEY EARNED IT AND NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE IT. I've seen doctors, lawyers, judges, executives, ... people whose families bought them positions of power pushing out people of merit. Not one lived on their (significant) income. What's really disturbing, is they take positions of power across the board and have no idea how things really work, but they know they are the superior ones who are rightfully there to rule.

[@igora2714]

Who owned the most expensive acres of land? Her family or the guy?

[@durpnurp7859]

It annoys me so much. When I was a sex worker (for survival) most of my clients were these rich lawyers etc. It was so obvious they never faced any real struggle. And they don't understand its easy to do 'hard work' and education when you have a safety net, housing and don't have to worry about basic needs. They weren't necessarily smarter than me either (apart from access to higher education). The idea of more debt terrifies me. But the rich can take it on because it doesn't equal endless labour. Nepotism is real.

[@Avaricumstudios]

​@@durpnurp7859you know something, it's really interesting... I come from Kenya, my friend and I aren't from moneyed families or anything like that ,far from it even but we aren't exactly dirt poor and I can remember there was a time we were talking with a girl from our class and she was talking about her family and she told us that they lived in a rented apartment and at first we couldn't understand her (most people in Kenya live in homes especially families or at least they have a home at their ancestral village) and that's when it dawned on me like 'You are really privileged ' to have a place where you call your home and such and it really got me thinking alot ...sometimes you are privileged in ways you cannot imagine... you may take 1 year to save for that trip to wherever or to backpack and see as if you are really struggling but to someone else they can't even have even the opportunity to save up ...some people are supporting their families , you may drop out of school to start your own business and sneer at the people who didn't do that call them 9 - 5 slaves but some people couldn't afford to take the risk, your parents weren't as rich but they weren't in a position where you are their only hope...and that afforded you a chance to risk it... and so on

[@maureenobrien4807]

Masonic bullshit.

[@maureenobrien4807]

What I mean by that is the club and we're not init

[@dr.woozie7500]

I go to a university with a lot of rich students with generational wealth who go in lavish vacations who claim to be “middle class and broke.” Their minds are always boggled when I tell them I’m working two jobs to pay for my expenses, while at the same time studying. Although I used to wish I was born wealthy, I find that my current journey working my way up the socioeconomic ladder is so rewarding, and one day I will enjoy the fruits of my labor and truly appreciate how my life has changed.

[@TheR6R6R]

Similar observation on my end, granted thankfully I don't have to work as much as you do. I study in a kind of special program that naturally necessitates a much higher tuition fee. These other students actively deny being seen as wealthy, glorifying things they do that those in poverty HAVE to do. Yet at the same time, they would go on holidays out of the country in the middle of the week. I don't really care what rich people do with their money, but the least you can do is admit and acknowledge that you HAVE money.

[@crimsonmask3819]

You also avoided student loans, right? Actual poor people _hate_ debt and will go to insane lengths to avoid it, while the rich are able to put themselves millions in debt on the regular only to make themselves even richer.

[@dr.woozie7500]

@@crimsonmask3819 my tuition was reduced by scholarship so yea I never took out any loans.

[@3nertia]

And I bet they never offer to help you either heh

[@3nertia]

@@crimsonmask3819 The capitalist economy is based on debt; you make more from your labor force than you pay them heh "That's just good business" heh

[@Tara.Daktyl]

Came back to re-watch this beautiful video after the Ballerina Farm has been in the news...

[@NelsonStJames]

To rephrase another saying, "Everybody loves looking poor, but nobody wants to actually be poor."

[@ffnovice7]

Late Paul Mooney

[@bkr1895]

Speaking from experience being poor isn’t all its cracked up to be

[@kaedatiger]

I'm tired of looking poor

[@skyworm8006]

No one loves looking poor. What an idiot. They like following fashions, which requires money, so obviously not true. What signals looking poor is being unable to consume and be fashionable. Also people who are bad with money in developed countries have a totally warped notion of what being poor is. They have no idea they're just stupid.

[@jessicalovemorgan]

There is a very distinct difference between Marie and Kim K. Marie was born into nobility and married off as a prop as a young teen and sent to an unfamiliar country where people hated her. She actually needed and used escapism just like any other teenage would try to. Kim K is an adult woman who has exploited the people around her and her fans to make millions of dollars and is fully aware of the manipulation of “cosplaying the poor” that she loves to do to make herself seem more “relatable and likeable” to the people she scams.

[@h0n3ymilk]

Thank you for saying this.

[@hanadiamin6914]

There’s also the added (and not insignificant) factor of the public gaze in Kim K’s poverty cosplay and to the videos that farm-family upload. The latter are curating a deliberate image of themselves, and that also plays into those bizarre fashion trends referenced in this video as well (like the Balenciaga shoes). Whether or not that story about Marie A. is true, unless she was dressing up as a peasant and milking a cow on stage in front of an audience, I’m not sure her situation is comparable to the modern day examples.

[@abcxyz3378]

Yall it was one photo shoot 😭 Kim K does not cosplay as poor

[@persona7-7-7]

She didn’t exploit anyone

[@hanadiamin6914]

I actually agree with you, I guess I just meant that if you want to interpret her photo shoot as something like that, it wouldn’t be analogous to the example of Marie!

[@tristan_840]

Filipinos have a trend even since the old days of romanticizing poverty. Children that have to work and endure everyday life pain, people having no food to eat, people living literally under the bridge, etc. it's just became a trend here in the Philippines ever since the old days. Some politicians even act like they are one of the poors by doing some publicity stunts like acting as a traffic enforcer, wearing a shoes that has a hole in it, etc. when infact they never even really experienced the life of poor, they also came from money ever since they were child, maybe at one point in their life, they struggled a bit and then they would call it "being poor" even though it's not.

[@musesxmuses]

it's an old propaganda tool that gives naive people a false sense of hope that they'll make it too, all while majority of the people in the government have been stealing and continue to steal billions from people's money and live lavishly, while the poor are getting poorer and dumber, farmers have offed themselves cuz they can't take it anymore, everything is getting more expensive, fuck these political dynasties that caused this country to be in this state

[@bernadetteobaglietto5923]

Same here in Mexico. Soap Operas and politicians sure do a good job at making poverty seem like a good thing (but also not. It's a mess).

[@MyTwoCents2]

That's so sick I can't stand dem

[@letsomethingshine]

Christianity romanticizes poverty in their "soft-sell" marketing to the masses more than it later romanticizes "God having provided and God asking us to make interest earning on our investments." Religion is used against the little children more than economy-cultures are. Parents usually try to shield the children from the truths of economy cultures as much as they can, but stuff partisan religions down their throat.

[@carolekjellander8917]

Love your art, music and soothing narration! There are "rich" vanlifers, but I represent just a retired person having an adventure for a few years. It's like camping because you have to be constantly solving things in a unique way with the few objects on hand. I'd like to think that people who have retired after 30-40+ years of work and money they saved for the future are qualitatively different than billionaires and social influencers. [For example, I have no audience and don't want one]. Enjoyed your video, thank you!

[@surfsup4019]

I used to take an exercise class and this girl who I knew (or thought I knew) had a really old phone, clothes, etc, I thought she was, maybe not poor, but just student poor. She got injured in the class once and I got her an Uber to her home, since she could hardly walk. The Uber was fairly expensive from my view. She never offered to pay me back, which I just ignored, but then she was gone for a while, and someone told me that she was away at her family's castle and that she was incredibly rich. I'm guessing the Uber I paid for her probably would seem like pocket change and that's why she never even considered paying me back or even just thanking me? I thought it was interesting that she gave the impression that she was poor, but was literally a generational wealth kid. I've obviously not let it go! haha EDIT: THIS IS SIMPLY AN ANECDOTE AND NOT MEANT TO SAY THAT I HATE THIS PERSON (hence the "haha" at the end). Please read the dictionary definition of an anecdote before responding "I can't believe you expected the money back!" Not my fault you are a rude person. Go project somewhere else please.

[@onemorechris]

i know exactly the kind of person you are talking about. Some rich people can be deeply tight fisted in contrast to how generous poor people can be. weird that it’s often that way around

[@marianabernardes8931]

Man I don't know how to explain this phenomenon, but it really does exist. I'm from Brazil but living in Europe I've met people with wealth that I can't even comprehend. And I only found out they were _generational_ wealthy (like, family rings passed through generations or politically connected relationships) because after befriending the, some comments made me connect the dots. But like.... they dressed and behaved the same way as me, had kinda the same things as me, an immigrant from a family who left EVERYTHING to move abroad. I'm not poor but most definitely not rich. Struggling middle class at best. And I don't think they cosplayed. Just.. there's some rich ppl who have so much money they don't bother about it, I guess....?

[@BlackSeranna]

Unfortunately she probably didn’t think about it - people that have grown up with a lot of wealth aren’t always taught by their parents that they should make sure to pay people back. Just know you did a good thing for her, a good human favor. Maybe one day it will occur to her what you did. If not, you still did what was right and that is what matters.

[@PriscyllaSS]

The same thing already happened to me. I met a woman at a conference, just looking at her appearance you wouldn't say she was rich. At night her cell phone died, everyone was already leaving and she asked me to order an Uber for her. The price was quite expensive, and I imagined she would pay me the next day. Well, the next day she just didn't offer to pay me and I found out that she was from a wealthy family. I politely asked if she would pay me, and she replied that I should be ashamed of charging such a paltry amount 🤡

[@EvolvingLark]

Honestly, I don't understand why you expected her to offer to pay you back. It sounded like you were just doing her a favor. Most people who are granted favors don't expect to have to pay back in cash, do they? At least, that's how I understand favors and that's what we do here. I don't know where you're from, but it definitely sounds like you do things differently over there.

[@xande5345]

The reason I always wanted to be rich, is because I always wanted to NOT have to worry about money, jobs and the future. I never cared for fancy clothes or flashy cars, I'd just lay down in bed until the moment I thought of something nice to do, every day. To me, that's true freedom.

[@UnfinishedSwing]

It seems like this vid is a jealous rant rather than valid criticism. The family does seem like a wealthy family, not poor at all... I mean, poor people like me can't afford a farm or any fresh farm products they use for their recipes. Are they pretending to be poor? Hell nah, they're just living the FARM life. Lol By the way, farmers are rich AF nowadays, most of them are heirs! We're not in the 30's anymore! 😅

[@Amila-ym7ny]

@@UnfinishedSwingdefinitely lol also who sees a shit ton of land and a beautiful farm house and think “poor” you have to have money to do that

[@teresamckeown5594]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Yes!!

[@Ocaveiradoze]

Ngl that would be a pretty good way to live

[@dysmissme7343]

Yeah… same I think some of this video needlessly assumes the worst of people

[@theShadeslayer]

This is a wild moment for me... I spend the whole video thinking, "wow, this art style feels very unique, wonder who made it, I'd like to buy some" and then looked in the description and saw midjourney. That's the first time I've been caught off guard by AI art, this is quite the weird world we live in.

[@elmotronn]

no because I didn’t even know until I saw your comment, I thought the style was so human

[@kaleighmoran6961]

Lol I immediately assumed it was ai generated. Mostly because few people would go through the trouble of making all these images lol. Plus, the abstracted style is pretty forgiving. It makes any inaccuracies or randomness seem intentional. It also gives the visuals a folksy style relevant to the content. With a good strategy like this, gen ai is a great tool for image making!

[@promethiamoore6462]

I wonder from what artist this Ai stole it's style from

[@soap4914]

same. was looking to see if anyone else noticed. kinda saddening

[@Jordie911]

It's very reminiscent of New Yorker magazine.

[@KrissJ-ec6ph]

I think there’s a connection to be drawn here between the rich in question and the multitude of stories and myths of gods or otherwise divine beings descending to earth to live amongst the peasants and dirt for one reason or another.

[@mendedarrows9394]

I’ve lived penniless in a van and I’ve spent time with affluent people.. I get the vibe they envy the excitement that comes along with poverty. They seem to wish they weren’t surrounded by sycophants and “yes men”. There is also the old saying “necessity is the mother of invention”.. us poor people have to be creative, so we make cool stuff. If the “elites” of the world weren’t exploiting us all constantly I would feel sorry for them.

[@3nertia]

You can pity them and still despise them ;)

[@RobotronSage]

When are we going to do something about this? As a millenial, it's painfully obvious that it's supposed to be our job to fix all this mess. Sadly, the older generations seem to only make things worse for us. Honestly like cleaning all the trash from the older generations they piled on us.

[@3nertia]

@@RobotronSage This will never change. There is nothing we can do. They will not let us. They've gotten very good at this game over the millennia; all roads lead to profit

[@AeridisArt]

@@RobotronSage like we're any better than the older generations lmao

[@Maelstromme]

@@AeridisArt We're a lot better. We have not done anywhere close to the amount of damage they have done.

[@luzvazquez4189]

Idk if it's because I'm not from the states but I've never seen Hannah's videos and thought "oh being poor is cute", I see them I think "I wish I wasn't poor and could afford all that". I agree there's an aesthetic to being poor and it has been treated as a commodity, but idk if Hanna or any other person in the cottagecore self sustainable community is proof of that. We the poors know they're not poor, and I'm willing to bet rich people know too. That being said, great analysis on everything else.

[@Kanon_9204]

I can relate. I live in Asia and when I see videos like Hannah's, I always assumed it was rich people who had the time and money to afford living comfortable and peaceful lives. Like you mentioned, it was never, 'Being poor is so aesthetic.' but rather, 'I want to earn lots of money so I can live like that.' It's a simple and quiet lifestyle not many can afford.

[@borderlines8021]

She doesn't even look poor tho. Like what very poor person has an all matching humble cottage and the time to make bread..? I think she's just living her own life how she wants. And a fulfilling one

[@blah914]

exactly this. i never viewed Hannah as poor, or even adopting a poor aesethic. im the grand daughter of a farmer w a lot of land, and I grew up there so i know personally how much work it is. I look at Hannahs land and my brain automatically calculates the value of that land 😂 and how much cash theyve got tucked away just to pay the property tax 😢 Being able to tuck away from society the way they do is a huge luxury now, and that lifestyle was very much ruined for normal ppl bc the world (gov) is constantly breathing down ur neck for money. My grandparent are smart financially, but pretty much all our neighbours have had to cash out bc of taxes soaring so high it exceeds their earnings.

[@Leonardohummel]

As someone who is not from United States it weird to me how they see poverty. I saw those videos and never for a single time thought they were poor. But that is my south american worldview i guess lol

[@tropinnka]

@@Leonardohummel since the video creator is a very uneducated urban young person, their prejudices are more inline with rural = poor, while not actually knowing what poor people look like, since they’ve never actually lived in a developing country.

[@okay_ray]

The problem isn't about rich people living humble. It's about rich people (not all) lacking perspective, empathy, transparency, and accountability. Someone who has $100 and someone who has $1,000,000 are 2 completely different people even if they both live on farms and make homemade bread. The examples with Kim Kardashian and Balenciaga are showcasing that they are trending "homeless" and "impoverish" while people are constantly dying of homelessness and poverty.

[@condimentking3395]

I think this is the best take, but I'd also add that the context of the current time makes it feel much worse. Income inequality is at its worst in ages, and there are more young adults living with their parents than in the Great Depression. Any inauthentic venture into that experience is even more sensitive than a couple decades ago

[@matiasdecesare4066]

Yes.

[@Nelwar]

That’s exactly…what…he was saying….

[@markfaulkner8965]

Its another way to desensitize the wealthy to the scandalous issue of true homelessness... just like Elon Musk being "homeless" because he CHOOSES to couch surf.

[@rmalus10297]

What are rich people supposed to be accountable for, exactly?

[@marcolucky9024]

It's the same concept as why people who are abusers and toxic often like to play victims as a facade. It's just the human nature

[@boo5274]

I was poor. Then I was rich. When I do, I didnt all of a sudden have a big modern mansion. I do the same things I used to do and want to do like painting and taking walks. My furniture isnt fancy, my clothing hasnt changed all and become branded and I will wear the same worn out jeans. The difference is that I'm not stressed. People on the outside might look at me and think I'm acting poor. In reality it's just who I am. My wealth does not define me.

[@chrisd2051]

That's the epitome of money talks wealth whispers. I'm not super rich but I'm not struggling, but in the summer usually I wear a simple t shirt, shorts and sandals and in the fall and winter usually jeans and a plaid shirt or a polo. I don't flaunt it but my colleagues know I can eat.

[@musa8693]

Yea but the examples he was talking about is of the people who were born rich who have always lived a lavish life. He is just saying it’s interesting that they are most of the time very much attracted to the simplistic lifestyle and the rich lavish lifestyle is not all that.

[@slicksnewonenow]

There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with being wealthy... As long as those who are wealthy MENTOR others in HOW to become wealthy themselves.

[@SortOfEggish]

That's interesting, but this video isn't about you.

[@terra5857]

@@SortOfEggishit kind of is

[@JosueGarcia-ve6zc]

you're channel's going to blow up, keep up the good work. Love the calm vibes with informative visuals

[@HorsesOnYT]

Ty 😌

[@thelouisfanclub]

Living on a farm and making your own food doesn’t mean youre “acting poor”. To do this you don’t have to be poor, in fact it often takes quite a lot of money to live that way, you need property and enough money that you don’t have to be working a job all the time so you have the leisure to bake your own bread etc. I don’t know any “poor” person who bakes their own bread, it’s a very middle class thing where I’m from. Just because you’re rich doesn’t mean you have to constantly be clubbing or on a private yacht or eating gold encrusted steak prepared by your servant. I know that even if I had the money to do that I wouldn’t be doing it because it doesn’t appeal to me. However I love cooking, gardening etc so if I didn’t have to go to work every day I’d probably do something like that.

[@Electraflare198]

im pretty sure that's the point of the video. not sure if you watched the whole thing before commenting, but the creator agrees with your idea. but they highlight how the manner of portrayal of these activities is uniquely immodest

[@thelouisfanclub]

@@Electraflare198 I did watch it, but his thesis is that these people are playing at poverty by doing these things. If those things are not actually things that poor people do, in what way are they “pretending to be poor”? Are they constantly talking about money struggles? No, they’re just living a rustic life Probably a large section of their viewers are watching them in an “aspirational” way and they are probably aware of that.

[@cxri9454]

Why don't they give away those billions they're hoarding so other people can live like that

[@purplelilytrollvomit]

I lived in an unfinished skoolie that was purchased by pooling money together. My mom and step dad were going through a divorce and I couldn’t ask for their help and they wanted nothing to do with it. I lived in a well off home, always with a roof over my head and they came from poverty. I basically chose to live in survival mode with no kitchen or bathroom (I used my neighbors, within the trailer park community). I struggled. I didn’t have a proper diet, sometimes I showered with hose water outside , i brushed my teeth in the same bucket I pissed in. I slept in a sleeping bag with a heater for the winter and I sweated out the summer. It wasn’t ideal and my safety net was pulled from me so I had to depend on other people. Regardless, coming from some money and struggling on your own with no help is hard to get out of. In no way could I build out a van the way my moms friends husband (who’s an engineer, wealthy) could do it. And I was 20 when I started. Now I’m selling it and going to school, in a new relationship with someone who knows stability and has a strong will to live modestly. Ramen is our main diet but we live through experiences. Its so hard go eat good and have your freedom.

[@talon9639]

Consider investing in index funds

[@theeNappy]

I get your point, but a Kardashian dressed as a 17th-century milkmaid in the 21st-century isn't a good example of performative pseudo-poverty. It's a costume that shows off her rack; it's a pun.

[@dixonhill1108]

Ironically it's insulting to suggest poor people would ever dress like that now.

[@0037kevin]

Its the only thing she good at. Amd her "hard work" over the years, was being born rich and making a sex tape. Opinions about hard work from a Kardashian, gtf outta here

[@laurencash5774]

As much as I love Lana Del Rey I think she's a prime example of this with her songwriting and some of her lifestyle choices.

[@jumpyourbone]

100000%

[@onemorechris]

popular music is littered with rich people pretending that all they did was work hard to get where they are. the issue then is almost more than the points in this video because those people sing about it too. they get to tell a story to music, a story that isn’t true

[@shynx6926]

99% of popstars come from wealth or have relationships in the industry. Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, Billie Eilish, you name it.

[@kdykstraajdjnd]

i agree but her situation is kinda complicated, she grew up wealthy but was poor as a young adult with no help from her parents

[@onemorechris]

@@shynx6926 that wasn’t always the case. that said, there’s plenty of good music out there by interesting people who aren’t children of bankers. but you won’t be served this, you have to go and look for it

[@tomieclone7278]

I remember those TikTokers and someone pointed out their stove was like $8k or something. I think this whole thing has a lot to do with an unconscious guilt and need to be included?

[@samuelmalar8527]

or she just likes to live on a farm

[@Joris-KarlHuysmans]

10:46 you pretty much hit the nail here.

[@collinmc90]

I remember doing van life and not knowing it was called "van life" it was just a way for me to actually have a place to sleep. I enjoyed driving it around and sleeping in beautiful spots but I remember when I first met people who were doing it on purpose and I was like... wtf? Now its huge.

[@MaseraSteve]

I needed your tips, as I don't wanna mess with city parking law, then is it okay to park outside the city border like on dense part of forest? Y now imagine the place where "serial killer" usually stays at? I gotta maximize my saving when working on big city like that

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

They also inflated the prices of vans, too...

[@drvren030]

my Indian grandfather is 93 years old as of now, he grew up in British colonized India, and while talking to him recently, i asked him what's the difference between how wealth worked before and how it is now. he spoke about the obvious like how monarchies and colonizations were different at the time. He told tales about his father and grandfather and how sometimes even though they were working the fields they would sometimes manage to steal some coins from the officers who came to ask for taxes and stuff. but he said something that really stuck out to me and hit hard, based on what his father told him (my great grandfather) and comparing it to what he sees with the world today. he said the problem is, back in his father's and grandfather's time, even though they lived through much more worse quality of living, the poor and the rich had much more life in them. If you lived at the time, you'd be able to actually SEE the polarity between the rich and the poor in front of you, because the rich flaunted their wealth. and so you could tell who was rich and who was poor just based on appearance. in that way, some of the rich were atleast honest about the fact that they were rich and weren't that twisted in thinking about it. polarity between the rich and the poor was actually less partially for that reason, and it was much easier to fight against the system and destroy the rich. assassins weren't just hitmen hired by the rich, they were sometimes vengeful poor people targeting certain rich people who made them suffer. and just through gaining some knowledge you could get some level of influence and rise up. he notices that the problem is today, ONLY money equals power. plus. you cannot tell who's rich and who's poor. so it LOOKS like there's no polarity between the rich and the poor, but the truth is that the polarity is stronger now more than ever. the rich have more control in looking simpler, because they can blend in amongst the poor as if they're nothing. people aren't smarter today, he said, they've just become more cunning and narcissistic. the rich claim to be simpler looking and simpler living, all in the name of "being humble and not being materialistic", but they're more dangerous now than they've ever been, and had it been up to him (he's from a different era, so mind him okay lol) the only way to take down those who are rich and inhumane is just straight up assassination lol. plus, physical conditions of living today are worse for the poor, and better for the rich. and everyone is their own bubble, becoming better at playing mind games to control people and such. he kept going on but at that point i already fell flat on my face mentally and zoned out lol

[@redditastic6711]

Man please tell me more. I love hearing stories of people who grew up in the raj times

[@inigo137]

this is probably the most intersting comment Ive read all week I'd love to read more of those stories

[@rafazdeb4242]

I agree. The polarisation and w disproportions in wealth are larger than ever. Yet they seem lower. And it's not only because rich people don't show off. Capitalism is selling the dream to the atomised masses that they too can be rich some day. Those poor "millionaires" will never revolt. That is cunning.

[@kozo1325]

You have a cool grandfather.

[@Mustang_Dan]

Did your grandpa stay in India or did he ever leave for another country? His perspective is interesting because back in India, your grandfather and great grandfather saw the caste system where the differences in socioeconomic status were very clear and one was pretty much trapped in whatever “class” one was born into. But yeah, you didn’t mention if he lived in India his whole life or if he eventually moved to another country, so I’d like to hear the perspectives of a couple more old timer’s like him: one who was born and lived their whole life in the west, one who lived their whole life in India with the caste system (possibly your gpa’s scenario), and maybe one that is a little younger and can compare old, caste system India to modern day India (could also be your gpa’s scenario). Comparing and contrasting these 3 perspectives that each compare the rich vs the poor over the course of a lifetime, can really give us some insight into how laws/attitudes/culture/people in general have changed regarding the relationship between the rich and the poor.

[@TeDuffour]

This reminds me of a local used tshirt store called POOR TASTE. It’s very popular with city kids and they charge $30-$300 for the kind of old shirts my mom would have to get for us from thrift shops. Urban Looney Toons, sports brands, but vintage and therefore trendy. Whoever runs the place clearly curates the inventory with care and I admit that it’s a brilliant business model, but I can’t help bristle at the commodification of the aesthetic of poverty and the smell of mockery that comes with it.

[@3nertia]

The fact that we have to admire this scummy practice as a "brilliant business model" should tell us everything we need to know about capitalism heh

[@loli_cvnt5622]

You don't have to, it's a choice. You would die in communism, move to russia idk Capitalism isn't bad, it's the corrupt people exploiting it. They won't just dissapear in communism, they'll just make you starve instead

[@DerAndersdenker]

The problem is, that society dispices rich people and partly even otherwise sucessful people. Envy is the problem!

[@skinscribe]

I think it’s interesting, because a lot of the poverty that rich people are cosplaying isn’t really poverty. It’s pastoral American values that can really only exist in paintings and story books. It’s a lifestyle that can only be enjoyable if you aren’t worried about your crops failing your livestock dying, or your own health declining. It’s a beautiful life when you can enjoy the nature and not feel the pressure of meeting the demands of filling your own stomach, in that way living off the land is beautiful and I don’t blame rich people for thinking that it’s beautiful because it is, but you can only really enjoy its beauty to its maximal effect if you do not have the pressure to succeed in that lifestyle. Billionaires can buy their way out of any of the failures. In addition, it’s a lifestyle that poor people don’t really live in anymore. At this point poor people live in urban areas. they live in suburban sprawl, they live in strip malls. There is a modern dirtiness to poor people now rather than this rural image that is untainted and reminiscent of hundreds of years ago. To me it always looks like a fairytale. It’s not grounded in modern reality.

[@kentonian]

The song ‘common people’ by the band ‘pulp’ is an awesome Brit pop song on the subject. “You'll never live like common people You'll never do whatever common people do You'll never fail like common people You'll never watch your life slide out of view And you dance and drink and screw Because there's nothing else to do”

[@samuelmalar8527]

why would they want to

[@beththegreen]

As a past homeless person, and someone who often forgoes eating for days at a time to pay rent, i really feel this It's hard for me not to rage to blood boiling levels when im faced with the out of touch blindness privileged people present to me casually in conversation

[@Hkt1kTurnie]

Your life will change for the better one day, I believe in you. Keep your head high ❤. God bless you

[@Arnechk]

Why would one rage because other people have their own shitty/weird ideas. If i was rich, I would live in Miami Vice dreamworld, with the pastel blazers and a white Testarossa, doing coke, probably. I would do it for my own enjoyment, like cosplayers and dare I say, furries. It is a bit meh when rich pretend to be poor for exposure and more money, but so do actors on screen. Don't be upset, do your own thing and good luck.

[@DawidDgk]

Well. You don't have to watch it.

[@symbiote1982pk]

They could say the exact same thing as you though. it's all a matter of perspective. Instead of wasting your energy on getting angry that folk have lived a different life to you maybe work towards understanding why you feel that way and getting the fuck over it. You'll be happier in the long run which could well affect your current financial situation, or y'know rage at youtube videos that no one made you watch I guess.

[@user-eb2mu7xn9c]

Waaah I'm not rich but i should be because I was born. Waaaaah grow up dude ffs you sound worse than the rich. Maybe try to learn from them instead of hating them

[@mastersquinch]

I genuinely wanted to do van life, for a long time, because I wanted to live nomadically and travel ironically, I was never able to do it because I couldn't afford it and I had too many responsibilities. Even more ironically, I briefly lived in my car- but without the safety net, and the amenities of a dedicated conversion, it just fucking sucked.

[@shakenbacon-vm4eu]

It’s so hard right after burning man. I loved it. And it was validating cuz I live in an area where rich people love to cosplay poverty. ‘Not producing anything is the ultimate sign of success’ is so spot on, holy shit.

[@thispickle]

I'm curious what this means to you in relation to burning man?

[@cherylbrown-m4i]

i think just to say they went apparently...@@thispickle

[@evermote8389]

@thispickle Burning Man, as it exists today, is a $7k-per-person congregation of tech bros that have gentrified a festival culture built by decades of historically poor artists, craftspeople, and musicians. Watching them get flooded out was peak schadenfreude for many.

[@rose-a-bleu4281]

@@thispicklewhen rich people do it = it’s good When poor people do it = it’s bad

[@TranswealthyTrillionaire]

Normal rich people: Pretend to be poor Nikacado Avocado: I bought a 23 million dollar penthouse to laugh at PEASANTS

[@gator9339]

That piece of crap is literally going to eat himself to death

[@inoscopedjfk09]

I hate awkwardtheturtle.

[@TranswealthyTrillionaire]

@@inoscopedjfk09 Awkwardtheturtle is a hero

[@boobooclap1223]

im homeless and i personally prefer rich people like nikocado, like i enjoy violent self awareness rather than being blatantly disrespected by my very real life just being a character to play

[@ffnovice7]

Genuinely concerned - can you find roommates for an affordable place with lockable doors? Can you find stable employment to get your foot in the door? Is your current city truly to your liking or can you move for a fresh start? Have you finished schooling? Have you looked into government jobs or assistance programs? Are there estranged family members you can bite the bullet for one more conversation to get an in into resources? Do you have emotional, mental, medical, or physiological issues you need to manage and control to be fully functional?

[@canyildiz5966]

I had a housemate in University who made me a little uncomfortable at times with how much she seemed to fetishize poverty - the life i was forced to grow up in. She was wealthy, her family had a property in central london, and she went to private schools. But she dressed up lile a hipster, went dumpster diving, and would always talk to me like she related to my experiences some how. She had a weird thing about hiding her wealth. When her father bought her a mini cooper as her first car she was really skitish about it and hid it from us for a long time. She seems almost caught out when i saw her car for the first time. I always found this very strange

[@soulsunshine108]

I don't think it's that strange. Ultimately some people want to fit in. She didn't want to seem different from her friend group. And if she was flaunting her wealth wouldn't that be more rude? Plus, few people without wealth can understand what it's like to wonder if people are only spending time with you because of your money. Hiding it away a bit can make it easier to feel like people like you for you.

[@daniboy2619]

@@soulsunshine108 While lowering your power level/apparent wealth can be good for fitting in, it just ends up, like he said, as a strange relationship. It can become unsustainable and dishonesty will be the corrosive glue that keeps that friendship together.

[@stevebull7105]

“I wanna live like common people like you” -PULP

[@BJ-ui2rc]

@@daniboy2619 There are also people who came from "money" which I say in quotes because it really depends how much money you're talking about, who simply want to be around people with less because they like their personalities better. My family had a decent income for the town I grew up in but I chose to hang out mostly with friends who didn't come from money because they shared similar interests as me and didn't have an insane focus on consumer goods and other crap that doesn't matter. It's not reasonable to execute a minor version of class warfare against people who are maybe one economic "class" above you. People tend to hide their money sometimes because they feel ashamed being around people of a lower economic status even if they really do genuinely like those people and want to be their friends. Would you rather that all economic classes just divide and not engage with each other? Also, it's insulting to people who may have slightly more money to say that they are essentially cosplaying as being poor as if having that extra money means they NEED to buy designer goods, then criticize them for having designer goods as well. It's a never ending spiral and ends up pitting all of the lower classes against each other when in reality it's the billionaires that we should be criticizing, not the family down the street who makes $200k a year but chooses to live in a more modest neighborhood.

[@daniboy2619]

@@BJ-ui2rc Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you HAVE to show it off, but it's good to be honest to yourself about the fact that you can have these things on top of basic subsistence. As the video says, don't take away the struggle from those who don't have a safety net. Now it really depends on each person how they approach friendships of entirely different social classes. The one in the higher end might hide it out of shame or keep himself totally open about it, or a mix of both. The lower end might accept them as they are or shut them off for not being relatable enough, or switch between the two. But there's always going to be something off or strange no matter what unless both parties have such a super strong bond that they ignore either's difficulties and blessings, but in my opinion and experience it feels implausible.

[@KatieCooksandCrafts]

This video has an interesting idea, worth exploring and I appreciate the well produced video but there is a glaring flaw in your argument. How is homestead life "poor"? Owning land, having a pack of animals, a giant barn.... Is the definition of abundance. I would never look at living off the land as poor. I think it really says something about your own perspective (or lack of) if you think a large, well functioning homestead is living poor. Home baked bread is not poor, it's the best, when done well (which the clips seem to show very lovely loaves). Thinking of "The Rich" as 1 dimensional, consuming, vapid creatures is as misguided as any stereotype could be. Thousands of centuries of living pastorally is not erased because the last 125 years since the industrial revolution has pulled us away from the land. There is an innate craving for this lifestyle. The struggle to make ends meet or the anxiety of an unexpected expense is not what defines a homestead (although it doesn't preclude it either). This whole argument reminds me of when I was a kid and hated that my mother made my clothes. Having a personal seamstress making custom clothes embarrassed me. Now I can see that it was flawed thinking.

[@retronartz1268]

Going through my life it feels like I’m constantly being gaslit with everything regarding jobs/systemic poverty. I watch videos like this and with it’s message I feel strangely comforted

[@fr33f4l4st1ne]

we absolutely are being gaslit. Billionaires act like they cant spare a penny. (hyperbole). and then treat us like lower class people are spoiled children for asking for accessible housing, food and healthcare. having our basic needs taken care of is treated like this unreasonable luxury to ask for. Not wanting to spend all our hours working and resting just to work again is being "spoiled". Being told we have to earn our right to exist is nothing short of abuse, and its happening to most of us every day under capitalism.

[@kassassin_brahgawk]

Same here. I'm a single mom living in poverty, I haven't gotten child support in over a month. I have literally been told by the child support courts to not depend on the $50 every two weeks I get from my kids dad. Like I ever did 🙄 I've worked three jobs to keep us afloat, skipped meals, gone without necessities to make sure my kids have what they need, and the majority of my peers are childless. They don't understand that I literally can't afford to do leave my house much less eat at a restaurant and spend $30 on a meal for myself when that could feed me and my kids for a few days. My family plans trips and invites me, knowing fullwell my situation. I can't afford to travel. I can barely afford the gas to get to work most times. But everyone just expects me to be able to pull stuff outta thin air and blames me for the situation i am in even though I am in this situation because I escaped an abusive relationship with a pill addict who was putting all of our money for the kids up his nose. It was a huge kick in the teeth when my folks dropped like 40k on my sister's TWO weddings to the same guy, and then tell me they will give me 10k if I can save up money to buy a house. Like WTF? 10K would CHANGE MY FUCKING LIFE. But let's put it behind a paywall I will N.E.V.E.R. be able to afford.

[@cosmicllama6910]

I see myself and my peers being gaslit by boomers all the time. A friend of mine has parents who were simple schoolteachers, now living a pretty lavish retirement, constantly vacationing and having wine delivered, because they were teachers back when benefits like unions and tenure still existed. You literally cannot build for that type of life or retirement today as a couple of teachers. Teachers today are really struggling, and having to spend what little they can on supplies for their *also* poor students. and all these boomers can do is pretend not to freaking see it and tell us we're just lazy on top of it. As you can see, I've become a seriously bitter person from all of the gaslighting 😃

[@kassassin_brahgawk]

@@cosmicllama6910 yeah lol what benefits? What retirement? Shit, we won't even have social security money for millennials who have been working since 14/15/16 yrs old. I plan on working until I die because I don't have any hope in an alternative.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Gaslit by who?

[@OokamiG]

Marie Antoinette was known to be constantly criticized and doubted as nobility among the nobles. She was notably un-noble like and as insensitive as acts of imitation can be Kim's milk maid shoot was closer to something insidious than Antoinette. For Marie, spending time "acting poor" was the only time Marie got to experience a level of normalcy she longed for and just simply wasn't an option for someone of her time and status. The rich nowadays have social fluidity. I think the comments point to a desire to live simply. The ability to live "poor" is not an option for the poor and farmers, like milkmaids, may not be living "rich" are not living impoverished. I think the important point missed in this video is "poor" is relative, poverty is not. Rich people do not imitate poverty, they engage in activities that are associated with a lower class/status. I'm certainly not a rich apologist but I'm struggling to find example of rich people actually pretending to be poor. Like, I know Kim k is not poor and her glamour milk maid shoot does not fool me into thinking she's just like me. The best example is the tiktok family who would only qualify as imitation if at the end of their tiktok filming they stop living the lifestyle they portray. Farms are not cheap, a poor person cannot own a farm. At worse we can call it misleading because we associate farms with poor people but id rather a bunch of rich people live below their means than to engage in the very same capitalist mindset that we are critiquing. Edit: I want to add I came into this video Really excited for the analysis, but there doesn't seem to be anything in this video that actually points to the rich imitating poor people. The original family used in the example wasn't even substantiated with evidence that they were acting in deception and that most of the perception lies within the viewer base and what we associate rather than the actual intent of the poster. In the end all that I got was the original premise which is it's really heinous to use poor people as a costume, but the video failed to actually provide examples of that. Ironically, I see more middle class people using actual people in poverty as clout (filming homeless people, taking selfies with refugees) than I see rich people downplaying their own wealth to a viewing audience with the intent of deceiving.

[@indfnt5590]

She was taken from her home country as a CHILD. Her spending seems to me like emotional shopping. Nothing made her happy. The palace life seems downright unbearable. Again, these women had barely any say in their lives. She quite literally got to France as part of an arranged* marriage.

[@WillyWompa]

@OokamiG based comment

[@internautapopo2766]

The concept of owning a farm=being poor it's modern. I think it came from the industrial revolution when the most rural parts were not already civilised and then considered poor. In medieval times the farm owners were not the people who worked here but the landlords, the nobles who were given permission to the lord to own a piece of land. They lived in castles or mansion not in the farm

[@Zones33]

Too bad she got her head cut off

[@Melvin420x12]

I solely agree with your point of view. Well said. I think he mixes actual poverty and being "poor" up too much.

[@dannyp9044]

It kind of sucks that people see van life as an upscale thing now, because I'm very poor and often struggle but I live in a van most the time. Sometimes I'll stay with my sister or have a lease for a few months but I've also been homeless entirely for periods. I have schizophrenia and kind of like an inability to accept good quality of life since the way I was raised and while I work very very hard most the time I will just drop off the face of the earth for weeks to months sometimes and have to get a whole new job when I come back, had to drop out of college (which I was paying out of pocket) and generally just can't live an undisrupted life style, so it really hurts that while I try to hide that I live in a van and then if people find out they either act like I'm a homeless bum or a rich privileged teen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ffnovice7]

Last emoji doesn't help, but I'll bite. Manage that schizo. Go to your local gov-state funded counselor resource. You have to be fully functional if you want to improve your situation. You also need a form of stability in your life. An animal may help and you may qualify for an emotional support animal. They are increasingly allowed in most public spaces and even apartments. Seek a place with lockable doors and walls. Get roommates. Finding stability in employment will improve your clarity. Meditate on the job; it's better than falling asleep from boredom.