Why Ricoh GR3 is Better Than Phone Camera

[@mattisulanto]

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[@GastonShutters]

Owning so many full frame cameras. The GR is the one that gives me no reason to leave it behind. The image quality and color rendition is outstanding. I own the GRiii and GRiiiX but the X is seeing the most days in my everyday Carry. Lens is sharp and camera and straight to the point. One of the things that not many people talk about is the super fast boot up. About a fraction of a second

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Interesting, I also use the X more. It's my most used camera right now.

[@deckoizkraja3107]

Hi, I have question, do you have overheating problem with your GR3X ? I read something about that. Thank you.

[@GrainyWorld]

What a beautiful footage! Great color grading. Very cinematic and very warm.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks!

[@densitydad]

The quality of the production on this video is incredible. Color grading and everything just pops. Thank you for the time you put into this video. Subscribed!

[@mattisulanto]

Much appreciated! Thank you.

[@geogu3images]

That is one great combo for Street. I use that combo (GRiiix with iPhone 13 Pro Max) for 80% of my workflow, especially for monochrome images. The GRiiix takes the images, transferred to the iPhone via Image Synch where I post edit in say, ‘Lr’, ‘Ps Express’, ‘Darkr’, or ‘Prisma’. I can even send out an image for printing without ever leaving the iPhone. There are several mobile apps for that purpose. And that is pretty where much of the industry is going, just review the PIXII 64-bit camera to get an idea of the interplay between technologies.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Interesting workflow and seems to work for you.

[@pmradlz]

Great balanced video, as always. What surprises me is that - although I don't have any evidence - if manufacturers made stills cameras without video functionality - they would be cheaper, and I would imagine there would be a market. I have never used the video functionality on my cameras because I'm not a vlogger, for example, and I'm sure I'm not alone...

[@boulderdash2000]

I can explain that circumstances for you. Modern tracking and af-systems has to use multiple frames per seconds from a sensor. Their is a face recognition system and eye-tracking with ten times adjustment per second. In this case you use a simplified sensor readout with "only" 4k...6k...8k video with 10 pictures per second. Only for scene recognition, face detection and eye-af. Any modern camera use this method. And now you understand why every camera got its price. Even cameras like a Ricoh GR3 got face detection. And this is why it can record full hd video. It is not a feature. It is always there. Use it or leave it. But the camera need it for AF

[@j_taylor]

@@boulderdash2000 Good point, if the capability is there to support other features, might as well give it its own feature. I'm puzzled how continual imaging would be required for focus tracking. My (older) Nikon DSLR has continuous auto focus "AF-C" but cannot record video. My rough and possbly wrong understanding is that it focuses on the subject, adjusts the focus a moment later, and basically plots a rate of change so that when you press the shutter, it has predicted the focus distance for that time. There's no exposure until the shutter trips and the mirror flips up. Is that a difference between "contrast detection" and "phase detection" focus methods?

[@boulderdash2000]

@@j_taylor There is a huge difference. A DSLR use dedicated phase-detection-sensors under the mirror. It can't use the image sensor for detecting faces or eyes. Modern cameras use a three way system: At first they detect objects, then faces, then eyes. The second step is to use this information for the onboard phase detection. In the last step they use contrast af for last fine adjustments. In this case you don't need focus-adjustment in the camera menu like old DSLRs. And this three methods work continues together. Ten times a second. An old DSLR can't compete with its old 9...18...54 single phase detection sensors. You will loose a moving object fast. And modern cameras need extrem fast processors to keep up with fast moving objects. Fast sensor read out, fast processing. In this is why every modern camera can record video. Even if you don't like it

[@j_taylor]

@@boulderdash2000 Thanks for explaining! I forgot that cameras now can automatically track and focus on face and eyes. The way you explain it, of course it has to continually process live images to support that, which makes it basically a video camera.

[@marcomarcon5802]

Great videos as usual. I used to have the GR3 (28mm version) but sold it, although it's undoubtedly the best street camera around, even better than a Leica, if one considers the form factor. But for me the smartphone is king when it comes to street photography, simply because I don't like to point a camera at people. Smartphones are the stealthiest image-capturing devices and a dream come true for street photographers; despite the limitations you have indicated, which also apply to a flagship phone like mine. When I don't plan to take pictures of people in my photo walks or travels, I use the smallest and lightest interchangeable lens camera, such as the E-M10 Mark IV (I also own an OM-1 but I don't take it with me when I travel, too big) with two or three tiny quality primes. I love using wide angle and telephoto lenses when taking pictures of places or objects, so the GR3 won't do in many situations. But I did love that camera, and I wish I could have afforded not to sell it

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks and great to hear you have found the ultimate street set up for you.

[@mindseyeproductions8798]

if you didn't know; iphone volume button does work as the shutter release; for those one handed holds.

[@mattisulanto]

I knew that, thanks.

[@j_taylor]

Thanks for the tip! It will help me a lot.

[@averageguy1261]

Great review. I've always chased the perfect picture, owning the 5D III, A7III, and XT30, but for EDC I find my cell pulls better pictures in many situations. I find sensor size matters, but computational photography is undeniably has become more so. I still find it hard to believe and that's why I'm GR curious.

[@mrheikkipekka]

I understand. I shoot with two fullframe bodies for work, but don’t like trouble of RAW workflow off-work so shoot iPhone 13 mini with computational photography most of times, even though I love my Ricoh GRIII for ergonomics and a dedicated device I can safely and easily operate one-handed. For me the trouble processing RAW files and not getting location data to the photos from my GRIII is off-putting. Even though I love the camera.

[@Lennymcgra]

2 years owning the GR3, ridiculously good camera, the freedom you have with this camera is hard to describe. I use it for urban exploring and you can run much faster when have to leave a location quickly rather than lugging around my full frame set up ;)

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Well said, it is exactly that.

[@BasedHyperborean]

Um, I don’t like the way that sounds. Especially with the creepy ass wink. NSA, you there dawg?

[@Lennymcgra]

@@BasedHyperborean I guess you don’t do Urban exploration as you would understand. Photographing locations and not being seen is what the hobby is all about. Nothing creepy at all.

[@jeremy_ching]

Thanks for sharing! I like your video style. May I know what effect/filter/software you're using to edit it? Thanks.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. I'm a Mac user so my editing app is the Final Cut Pro. There are no effects or filters in this video.

[@jeremy_ching]

@@mattisulanto Thanks for your answer! I like this effect/colour of your video. It looks amazing and nice. Was it shot with sony a7iv?

[@donaldpirie5485]

Cameras are like motorbikes - intensely personal. There is a world of difference between a 1,000cc V twin and a 1,000 in-line 4. Both do the same job - whisk you from A to B at high speed but the way the power is delivered is totally different. I love the in-line 4 sensation with a massive rush at the top end. The V Twin delivers loads of grunt at low revs - the same, but different. And so it is with cameras - intensely personal. I have a Galaxy S22 Ultra which takes great images - sometimes incredible images. I also have a GR iii. It takes great images - sometimes incredible images. The same but different. I hate using my Galaxy S22 Ultra for photos but absolutely love my GR iii. Why? I just do. Perhaps I am old fashioned…..

[@johnpollock6996]

I thoroughly agree with everything you said Matti. Using the iPhone with one hand is nearly impossible, but I can use my A7R4 in fully manual mode, preset everything to match the situation with a mildly heavy zoom lens, and back button focusing for all sorts of photography. Long live real cameras!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. That is true, you can easily handle the A7XX with one hand if necessary.

[@tizian968]

Hey, Great Video, and also really well pictures, but i have a question, i am a beginner, do you think the ricoh is as much fun as the lumix rx 100 m2. I consider buying the lumix or the Ricoh (maybe also the Sony rx100), but i think the lumix is maybe more fun (also because of the view finder) I don't know if that's true so i want to ask you. The Image quality is of course the most important aspect so Is the image quality of the ricoh much better that the lumix or the Sony? I also want to put it in my pocket as an everyday camera, and use it mainly for streetfotographie. Videography is also something which is important for my but picture Quality and the "film look" of the ricoh is really something I don't want to miss. Thanks for your Help, keep going!!!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. I can't say what would be your fun camera but if video is important and you already like the Sony then you should consider that.

[@tizian968]

@@mattisulanto Thank you verry much

[@veikop]

nice. what is more crazy is that you can run lightroom with that smartphone and this is feature many tend to forget.

[@fufu5068]

Looks like you're in Malaysia! GR3 used very hard to find here btw. I have to save up bit more to get a new one.

[@mattisulanto]

Did you have one before?

[@dgeorge4]

The biggest disadvantage of Ricoh and every Ricoh, is that you can’t easily go back in time and see what you have taken, or maybe find something attractive you didn’t notice when you capture it. Laptops, PCs, memory cards, external drives etc, are graveyards for most photo albums. Even i, who I consider myself an organized person, i get bored storing photos on my laptop. On my iPhone instead, I get thrilled how easy is going back to 2014, finding the memory I looked for. In conclusion, I think we give much more attention to Lightroom and all these programs, instead of a simple picture-memory

[@mattisulanto]

Lightroom automatically archives my photos by the date and I can go easily back to any date I want. However, iPhone does the same thing very well and makes a backup to the cloud, if you have that enabled and have bought enough cloud storage. Memories are important and that's why most of us take photos.

[@chrisbarron5861]

I use Windows. Click on the folder my pictures are in, and select a date range for the search. Easy as.

[@ReiDoesIt]

You've got very nice grade on this video, I really enjoy the desaturated slightly vintage look 👌And great video as always! 🙂

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks so much.

[@DarkstarDarth]

The IBIS, sharpness and magnesium chassis is epic

[@williamgiasi2365]

I really love all your content with the gr3, is there any possibility you will create content about the video footages / capabilites of ricoh gr3

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks so much. To be honest, it's not much of a video camera and I would not use it for that unless I had to. I have one video that touches the GR3 video capabilities: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2PCpH1uZq2MnJI

[@globetrotter6282]

one the biggest advantage of GR3 over Iphone for me is the responsiveness from get go. So as I power on the camera, I'm ready to shoot in one or 2 seconds. With I phone takes me awhile 5 to 10 seconds

[@TheFelipemahler]

Great point of view. Thanks a lot.

[@mattisulanto]

Glad you liked it!

[@changez77654]

To address your reason No.1 (ergonomics) -please consider using the Fjorden camera grip. I found having that on gives a much better ergonomics experience and it encourages me to take pictures like I do with my point and shoot.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for the tip.

[@changez77654]

@@mattisulanto Thanks for taking the time to read - I am in agreement with you on having a dedicated camera (not only because I have dropped an unjustifiable amount on a new camera very recently). But I also hold the view that iPhones are underutilised relative to their capabilities, ergonomics are a big factor why. The Fjorden camera grip gets close to giving an experience of carrying a GR3. It obviously doent address all your concerns highlighted in the video but worth considering for enthusiasts who come to iPhones from ILCs and other enthusiast focussed cameras. No affiliations to disclose - just a happy customer!

[@andreazevedo8325]

Hi Matti!! Great video and you said it all! I also take my most portable camera everywhere for photography. Like you said a dedicated camera is always better than my mobile phone camera, in my opinion also. I think I have only used or printed photos from my phone camera when it is something I am doing with my kids and even then, if conditions are right I will problably still pull out my trusty EM10iii with the kit lens to do those shots. But like you I also think its a personal taste and opinion. At the end of the day a good photo is one that gives you some kind of emotion, feeling or it just captivates you, the equipament you take the shot with is completly secondary. And like you said there are plenty of good photographers and I dare say videographers that do wonders on a mobile phone camera. All the best to you my friend, and my best wishes for you and your family! Happy Holidays!!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks, André. I value your opinions.

[@MrInfinity1994]

I have the same GR3X. It`s a great pocket camera and I like watching new video about it. It`s in the case now, because in my city -8 degrees and I can`t use it. I like views of the Bangkok in your video.

[@mattisulanto]

I’m actually in Kuala Lumpur. Thanks for watching😀

[@yuppietrashlife4344]

Agree , 100%

[@smooth111012]

Could you please recommend the settings that you use?

[@mattisulanto]

P mode, auto ISO.

[@jd5787]

Exactly what I needed after buying. GR IV D, GRII and GR III! Thanks. I'll watch it after my kids go to bed.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@adrianmuino3412]

I just don't discuss anymore with people that argue that a phone can take the same photos than a camera.

[@kennynvake4hve584]

I cut my touch screen off on my G95, I find I keep hitting things I dont want...

[@alexphototherapy]

Hi have you ever tried the Sony RX 100? I found one on the facebook Marketplace for 100 euros the promo model but I was very surprised by the quality of the images, it also has a good focal aperture that starts from 1.8 and also has a telescopic lens that goes from 28 to 100 mm could want more!!! I believe that placed next to a Ricoh GR it is very similar in image quality and in addition it has a telescopic lens!!!! What do you think?

[@mattisulanto]

I have used all RX100 models and I agree they all are really nice cameras. However, I’d still prefer the GR, because it has a prime lens and it’s simpler to use.

[@PaeTian]

Very interesting video When you were talking about that with the GR3 you achieved to get real background blur, I had to think about something my girlfriend told me once about a picture I took of her. We were at the gulf of Thailand and I took a picture of her (with my olympus pen ep7) with the water and a ship in the background. And somehow I did manage to set the focus right what made her stand out of the picture. She told me she didn't like the picture because for her it looks like she was photoshoped on top of the picture 😅 That shows me, Smartphone photography has changed how we see photos. All super sharp and in focus or with a heavy AI background blur.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. Phone cameras definitely have changed the way many people see photos and how they expect the photos to look.

[@LimitedWard]

I don't think your view on dedicated cameras is old fashioned. I think the younger generation (at least in the US) has started to recognize the value of detaching photography from our phones. That's part of the reason film photography has made such a big comeback in recent years. Ironically, even though we didn't grow up with film, we get a similar sense of timeless nostalgia from it. Maybe that's why people say the GR cameras produce "film-like" images.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for your insights.

[@michaelbell75]

Nice video and overall agree but two things here. You have never tried an app like Halide or Pro Camera+? You get full manual control over your aperture, shutter speed, ISO etc...also RAW functions, which your 5 year old iPhone X does not support. iPhone camera has come a LONG way since the X. Then you also have incredible apps like NOMO, which simulates about 50 classic film cameras. Everything from Leica and Pentax to Olympus and Contax, each one gives its own unique looks and character. No dedicated camera can touch having 50 different cameras in your pocket. Both have their advantages.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for your tips. I have used many apps that give manual control and RAW support too, but it's not about that. I simply prefer a dedicated camera. I don't dispute iPhone's versatility and I don't expect everyone to like the same things I do. So please, use any camera that works for you😀

[@rafamorenoc]

GR3 +1 for ergonomics +1 for size +1 IQ, great camera

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@trishf29]

I much prefer using a camera to a mobile. For one thing, it has a strap, so can sling it around my neck or shoulder. My mobile does not, and finding a pocket to fit it into when using is often a nuisance. Men‘s pockets are bigger than women‘s, so it‘s a handbag, or backpack, or something else. My older hand also tires of holding a mobile, it’s not very ergonomic, it doesn‘t with a camera, because of the strap, or the grip. My camera also takes better pics than my old iPhone 7+, which I mainly use for communication. The Olympus camera is my passion, mobile a nuisance, but a necessity these days. Happy holidays, Matti! 🇦🇺

[@mattisulanto]

Thank you and happy holidays to you too😀

[@glennsak]

Your vlog footage looks amazing. What is your setup? BTW, love my Ricoh GR IIIx!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. This one was filmed on the Sony A7IV + Tamron 20-40mm F2.8 + NiSi variable ND filter.

[@MichaelGerrard]

I agree with all you said, all those reasons are mine too! Although I don't have a GR, maybe one day 🙂

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. You probably have another favorite camera you like to carry around😀

[@spirittravels.]

The pixel phones typically outperform the iPhone cameras. So would a Pixel be similar quality to a Gr3?

[@mattisulanto]

If you watched the video you must have realized that the image quality was not my main complaint.

[@spirittravels.]

@@mattisulanto So can you control the camera better thru external apps?

[@gainde1137]

@sulantoblogvlog, Would be interesting to make a video about your personal choice between a small DSLM (Crop) or a good compact camera. For street and daily activities I noticed that I often use my smartphone or a compact camera. A larger body (DSLM) is too conspicuous in public. What are your preferences?

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. That might be a topic for the future.

[@AnandaSim]

I emphathise and understand. The point about phone cameras being more expensive is actually nuanced - the reason why phone cameras killed the compact point and shoot market is that phone cameras are heavily subsidised by useage (buy a phone, get a camera) and by the telecom carrier (offer a never never plan that cover 2 years for a phone camera that looks like it costs nothing more than paying for telephone calls and data)

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. Sure, most phones are probably bought like that, as a part of a carrier's plan.

[@tims8305]

Thanks for the video Matti. I love my GRIII/IIIx cameras but when I'm out and want to take street shots my ratio of iPhone: GRIII can sometimes be about the exact opposite of yours. Yesterday for example I was visiting the new Art Gallery northern building which has just opened in Sydney Australia. I used my iPhone exclusively because not only did I want to take some photos but I wanted to check things on my phone as I went around and I didn't want to have a phone in one hand and a camera in the other. Galleries also can impose limits on some bags and on some cameras (definitely no tripods!) but I did see others with larger cameras. I find the form factor and ergonomics of the iPhone fine for me and it performed brilliantly in the gallery including the dark subterranean tank gallery (a former naval fuel bunker) that was in virtual total darkness at times and I'm not sure the GR would have managed the challenging light conditions. I guess this proves that everyone has different needs! Thanks again.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing that example. Sure, a phone camera is perfect for certain situations.

[@kevin-parratt-artist]

Absolutely 👌

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@juhaaavalaakso455]

Näitä ison kennon pokkareita kiinteällä objektiivilla tullut aika monta markkinoille. Jännä että niille on markkinarako. Itsekkin tykkään ei siinä ei ole varaa laittaa moisia. Mutta kompakti koko on iso plus.

[@petegleeson1]

😂😂😂

[@mattisulanto]

Eihän se markkina varmaan iso ole, mutta ilmeisesti riittävä.

[@HantuBorneo]

sir you from malaysia?

[@13DCR]

How often do people open Whatsapp instead of taking the shot 🙂 I'd rather have a cheap phone and invest my money in a decent camera. This was one balanced video !!!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Exactly, want a photo, but open Whatsapp😀

[@AlanHarid]

The gr3 is definitely far better and superior than a smart phone camera.

[@Gogogordy1]

Dont own one, but have shot with a GRIII. YES, it’s a fine camera punches well above its weight, size and EVEN it’s price IMO. My only reason for not buying one is its well-known reputation for a penchant for non remedial dust collecting on its sensor and frequent scroll wheel issues. I wish Ricoh would address those well-known issues…your video has only served to whet my appetite for a GR again despite my misgivings about those potential and very probable issues.

[@petegleeson1]

I've had my GRiii now for over 2 years and it gets a lot of use. I always have a case that secures on my belt so when I am not shooting I put it away there. I have never had any issues with the dust, there is now tech in the camera to clear dust, but I suspect it might be mainly a problem for people who "throw the camera in a pocket". Pockets being full of lint and dust, tissues and whatever. I can't says that's true as I look after my camera my way and so far so good. I had one day when the battery ran down in use and for several hours every time I turned the camera on it was like basic set up. The next day the issue had gone. My OM-D 5 MKII on the other hand the articulating rear screen unarticulated (fell off) the week before I went on a workshop with it. Over a tun to repair it and I have as a result slightly lost faith in it. I guess some of it with all cameras is luck, how you treat them etc. The scroll wheel issue is in my humble opinion a myth. The wheel operates in a certain way but it is reliable and just works. If I could afford it I might get rid of all my MFT stuff and just have the GRiii and the Griiix. But I didn't know that the type of photography I would end up doing would rarely need all those lens options.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for replying. I suspect exactly the same reason for the dust problem, dirty pockets😀

[@Gogogordy1]

@@mattisulanto I totally agree. Some sort of improved sealing would be a thoughtful upgrade though since “pocketability” is a major draw of this camera and one which many of its users take to heart.

[@Yoko.Kurama]

@@petegleeson1still no issues? I plan on using it the same way you do.

[@petegleeson1]

@@Yoko.Kurama still no issue. Enjoy

[@kevinattig6689]

It's hard to compose a good photo on a phone when you get a call or notifications pop up, I'd rather use a point & shoot camera even if it has a small sensor.

[@martian9999]

one more thing, phone cameras are developing in a way that is out of your hands -- with every new generation, every new update, you don't know what you're getting. For example, portrait photography has often become more tailored to the specific needs of the Chinese market (refer to Marques Brownlee'' recent video on how the newest iPhones remove all asymetrical shadows from people's faces). I want to be the boss of how my images look; I don't want to relinquish this to some committee based in California or in China. In terms of price, with the GR, you replace the battery when it gets weak. With a phone, you send it in and pay ?$80. A phone you need to replace every 3-6 years. A camera, hopefully not.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. That's true, we don't want our photos to be heavily modified and processed without our input.

[@timzusa]

Do a video comparing the GR III and iPhone 15 Pro Max!

[@mattisulanto]

Why would I do that?

[@timzusa]

@@mattisulanto to see if the iPhone 15 Pro Max camera surpassed the GR III.

[@mattisulanto]

@@timzusaI don't have access to the iPhone 15 Max and it will not surpass the GR3/x. The Max is too big, the ergonomics still suck compared to any dedicated camera. I'm speaking for myself of course and someone else may find that the iPhone 15 Max is just the perfect camera.

[@АндрійПозняков-н2ф]

What about ricoh vs any pixel 7/8 or iphone PRO version’s?)

[@Purplefoxdl]

@@mattisulanto because unlike camera, smartphone image quality increases significantly generation after generation :)

[@gainde1137]

Street is about speed and therefore the ergonomics of a camera is better than a phone. For architecture, portraits, nature you name it a phone is quite good as you aren't in a rush. But street, wildlife, bird, sports and anything you need zoom a phone isn't appropriated.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@littlek4za]

Hi nice video!! i was thinking to get a gr III or a xiaomi 13 pro with 1inch camera sensor integrated with leica filter, i know it is not as big as aps-c, but due to handphone has ability to use app for instant editing (not talking about raw file here) and posting them to social media, it really makes me think a lot before choosing one of them @@. I am still not deciding yet.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@carlosc.m.9735]

Great review! Unhappy with mobile cameras i bought the sony hx99 a year ago and honestly i am not happy with it. I believe this Ricoh rxiii is from another league. I am thinking of buying it. If anyone can give the opinion on this in will be greatful.

[@mattisulanto]

There are many reviews about the GR3x here on KZbin, please search and watch a few. My GR playlist includes many GR videos, please take a look: kzbin.info/aero/PLkkZKkR0lgqkRwelW-mDgztjsEu3Im5TS

[@carlosc.m.9735]

@@mattisulanto thanks a lot! I will check the videos from your channel once i think you focus on what matters! 👍

[@smooth111012]

I had the GR3X for few weeks now, used it daily to get used to it for a couple of weeks Gave up as I keep getting out of focus shots. The quality seems poor Not sure why

[@mattisulanto]

I have no idea, maybe a user error or a faulty camera.

[@mikemcfly4297]

Are you in Singapore?

[@MrTheDule]

Kuala Lumpur I think

[@mattisulanto]

I confirm, I'm in Kuala Lumpur.

[@mk1photography62]

Good points Matti I have a really nice samsung s22 ultra and I prefer a camera

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@mk1photography62]

@@mattisulanto I am going Ricoh GRiii X in February birthday treat

[@mattisulanto]

@@mk1photography62 That's a nice birthday treat😀

[@mk1photography62]

@@mattisulanto Yep February 10th

[@gurugamer8632]

Does the Ricoh GR III have better image quality than iPhone 14 Pro Max?

[@mattisulanto]

I suppose it depends who is looking, beauty is in the eye of the beholder😀 My opinion is that the GR3 has superior IQ compared to any phone camera.

[@devroombagchus7460]

Excellent. You explained it all. BUT: as the devil's advocate, I must say that the GPS info of the iPhone images can be handy. Especially because my phone pictures are often taken randomly and I forget where they were taken.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. The GPS info would be great for every camera.

[@mahakalax108]

7:58...but how ?!

[@mattisulanto]

How what?

[@boulderdash2000]

You don't have to be sorry for people who shoot great photos on their phones. I like to use any camera as a tool. Even my smartphone camera takes nice raw-data photos thanks to lightroom. But it will never be the same. Afterwards I review my photo and try to develop it in lightroom. I use some lightroom presets and like to use profiles for great looking pictures. But every time when I use a smartphone I feel restricted. You got a plenty of noise in the sky and especially in the shadows. If you want nice structures from clouds, nice blue sky or colourfull shadows with real lokking skin tones, then every smartphone will be a huge disappointment. Even the new iPhone 14 pro can't compete my very old Pentax Q-S1. Both cameras got very small sensors. But the Pentax Q-S1 gives you better colours, better lens options and a more photo-realistic looking images. The iPhone 14 pro costs far ahead of 1200 $ and a used old dedicated camera far less the 300...400 $ with 2...3 lenses. In this case the smartphone is much more expensiv. And any dedicated old camera can blow the sh***t out of any smartphone camera. And a modern Ricoh GR3 plays cat and mouse with a smartphone

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing.

[@michaeltuffin8147]

Don't forget about your thumb constantly getting in the way of the lens on phone cameras.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for that. Has happened to me a few times😅

[@BugsTours]

outstanding!

[@BugsTours]

... as a follow up I just purchased the iii, but will be purchasing iiix before the end of the year. The camera can be taken with you anywhere with you and without bulk. The lens is just amazing! I have the 12pro and its fine, but all my important info is on there including my 2fa apps.I have too much to loose on my phone not to mention the GRs takes WAY BETTER pics than the phone anyways. thanks again love the channel.

[@mattisulanto]

Thank you kindly!

[@marike1100]

Ricoh GR, X100, any of the fixed lens or zoom compacts are so much nicer in the hand and crucially, they have manual controls (PASM), DOF control, in many cases, viewfinders. I don’t know a single photographer or enthusiast who prefers a phone camera for actual photography. Heck, I’d rather shoot with the original Ricoh GR, the 10mp CCD 1/1.7” sensor version because it’s an actual camera. The APS-C GR? Forget it, images from that beauty utterly destroy my iPhone’s camera and it’s a pleasure to shoot with.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks.

[@SergiiStarodubtsev]

What if fake depth of field would become indistinguishable from real one? Same as special effect in movies or AI chat bot, hard to say what is real. And for some ppl it is undistinguishable even now.

[@mattisulanto]

It will come to that soon, of course, but we can still use and enjoy dedicated cameras if we like them. People shoot film and that doesn't make much sense either, but if you enjoy it, why not.

[@WhoIsSerafin]

Can’t think of more miserable photography experience than using a phone

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks😀

[@tallaganda83]

My iPhone has a 45 megapixel odd sensor but the results are nothing compared to even my TG-6 it’s just too computational, with a lot of artefacts. Not to mention the terrible ergonomics.

[@gainde1137]

I just compared the Galaxy S23 to my Canon G7 Mark III. The smartphone has way better low light performance due to computational optimisation. Except of little better ergonomics I see no advantages of a compact camera anymore. 5 years ago it was different. Also with a mobile phone you are invisible for street photography. Will take some time until photography nostalgists will finally notice that smartphones are the way to go in 90% of cases.

[@mattisulanto]

I'm so happy to hear that a phone camera works for you. You almost never need a dedicated camera any more and I guess that is great.

[@lore3334]

Its impossible to take better low light with a smaller sensor, the s23 has a pretty big sensor but still isnt 1 inch as the one in the g7 so it all depends on time of exposition. So your g7 should do better than the s23 if you fix the raw files since the Samsung has ai that does everything for you and also reduces noise via software.

[@gainde1137]

@@lore3334 pysically it can't capture more light but with image stacking it can compensate that disadvantage. Sensor size is less important nowadays because of computational processing.

[@lore3334]

@@gainde1137 image stacking isnt that great when there is movement (and there always is if you shot nature) and you can take burst shot photos on camera then go to lightroom and still them together (it put images together really well) and now lightroom had a new update where you can literally eliminate noise without reducing details and it works wonders

[@alwinbenjamin]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@littlek4za]

i see MYVI, this is in Malaysia

[@mattisulanto]

Kuala Lumpur.

[@76Jvt]

Obviously.

[@clt8762]

C'était vraiment nécessaire cette vidéo :) MDR

[@rjcine4181]

Huge difference between an iPhone 10 and a iPhone 14 pro.

[@marcpatrick5948]

I also think it would have been a better comparison to take an up to date model like iPhone 14 pro or even better android phones like Oppo find X6 Pro or Vivo X90 Pro+ - my guess would be that no one would see any difference

[@rjcine4181]

@@marcpatrick5948 probably right.

[@blindsouris]

What you don't want make cell phone snatchers happy? :-)

[@shawnsponds]

Your phone isn’t a high end iPhone camera

[@mattisulanto]

You are very perceptive😀 I was not talking about my phone specifically, but phone cameras and phone photography in general regardless of the phone model. Here is a newer video on the same topic and now I even have a higher end phone: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJKTq2SDi7upopY

[@kurt120032002]

If the best phone camera equals the GR3, the GR3 is useless, and it is frankly insulting. So what is their offer really? "pay us the same amount you would pay for your phone, to get the same quality you would with your phone because we are lazy and this product is for idiots to burn cash". How lazy are the the guys from Ricoh? Well, if the sensor is nearly 1" in current flagship phones, and this is APS-C, it means it is 4 times larger sensor, and has about 4 times more space for glass. That means 4 times more light, more resolution, and if pair that with dedicated processor that needs to do no other task, it should destroy any phone at any price by a huge margin. What do we get for the money? Same quality. To put it in simple terms you pay 4 times more then the quality you get, or you get 4 times less quality then you should. Isn't this the dea? lose literally tons of features, versatility, convenience to gain quality? Except they did not delivered on the quality side, so you just lose. No wonder why camera manufacturers are in huge trouble, They did so little for so long, with very little innovation, and out of the blue they realized that very small unassuming cameras can match their "good cameras" AND it is in everybody's pocket. They are nearly a decade behind phones and it is too late. I bet in 5-10 years the processing will be good enough to shoot a weeding on your iPhone or Galaxy Note, and if you think that is a long time, my phone that I am looking to replace is 7 years, so that is 1-2 phone upgrades away.

[@AnPham-uu8ld]

Dở hơi, toàn nói nhiều, chỉ càn đưa ảnh để so sánh chứ.

[@clt8762]

Ridiculous !!