Why Ruan Mei is Being Hated After Firefly Teasers Dropped 🌸🦋 - Honkai Star Rail 2.3

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[@user-ue6df4tt1h]

It was not an emanator, but the queen of the swarm, which creates other, smaller beetles.

[@joehanz9217]

Exactly, the bug Aeon is Sealed by Qlipoth

[@Feeeeelixx]

​@@joehanz9217The Aeon was killed by Qlipoth, and the bug that Ruan mei WAS the emanator of propagation but they only live for less than a minute

[@joehanz9217]

@@Feeeeelixx killed? I thought it was Sealed

[@warrenwaisaka5668]

​@@joehanz9217 Qlipoth smashed the Aeon of Propogation, then sealed it s remains

[@joehanz9217]

@@warrenwaisaka5668 ah, i see

[@Razorrr_]

its so ironic how they work so well together in a team 💀

[@tig8029]

Fr💀💀

[@unknowed5048]

In another world where they are friends, it would be great as Bronya/Seele combo

[@jameswong3885]

@@tig8029 and gallagher after he stabbed her in the back

[@JA.4]

​@@jameswong3885 Gallagher didn't betray her what? He even cover up for here when the bloodhounds thought she was a stowaway

[@jameswong3885]

@@JA.4 hmm you remember the monster who stabbed firefly? And who killed sunday too? They are the same Though it was a dream kill

[@cookiecutter3116]

If Firefly finds out she would probably love to have a nice conversation with her

[@WAILLINGFLOWER]

I'm pretty sure Sam would enjoy that conversation more.

[@polarity_star783]

Mean while im the One that would enjoy the situation more. I hated ruan mei since her story im not a fan of her.

[@RaihanSalim-nw7tm]

Dududududuuuu

[@sakatagin.]

​@@polarity_star783 ruan mei :hold my tea.

[@masteradc7859]

Ohh looks like it'll be a heated/flaming one 😂.

[@faded_evil]

And combine her banner with firefly is just insane

[@asrafkhalid1231]

but they synchronise so well. a break effect dps and break effect buffer

[@faded_evil]

@@asrafkhalid1231 sadly yes

[@asrafkhalid1231]

@@faded_evil well, harmony MC buffs firefly too so theres that

[@theshade0038]

And they also made Firefly a little too dependant on this Mei

[@mmdhn1660]

​@@theshade0038 No. She's more dependent on harmony mc

[@itsrainingcats9365]

ppl say they want more playable villains/morally gray characters and then whine when the morally gray characters do bad things and the villains act like villains. i'm not even a ruan mei fan but ppl act so stupid about her.

[@DraconicInsomniac9815]

True. It's confusing how people ask for this stuff, but then are never happy that it at least happened. Strange.

[@freya9172]

It's funny actually, because they also the type of people who keep shouting that they want more morally gray characters in hoyoverse until they have it, they take it back. Like sir, ma'am? Do you want it or not?! I'm quite sure they will not handle some characters in some novels that I read who's so many morally gray characters... 😒

[@brendaramalho9093]

And they try to defend her. What's wrong with people

[@rui.superfan]

Morally gray does not mean literally batshit fucking insane evil type shit. It means your neither good or bad, and if I remember correctly, Ruan Mei literally drugged us

[@LonelyChisania]

I don't say that at all but you probably don't mean me because I hate Ruan Mei, I hate all characters like her. I hate the crazy scientist that only cares for results archetype a lot. Villains are meant to be hated after all.

[@_ToastedBreaduwu]

She's a mad scientist, what did you expect when she first fed you that cake?

[@LonelyChisania]

Yeah, I don't get why people didn't realize though, I mean I realized everything the moment I saw her trailer(s?)

[@Konpekikaminari]

​@LonelyChisania in the trailer Ruan Mei herself very clearly layed out her intentions- she's aiming to become an Aeon Like, when was the last time anything good came out of that kind of aspiration?

[@LonelyChisania]

@Konpekikaminari yup! That's what I thought! I thought she was cruel and merciless when she treated the creatures she created that loved her like they were nothing more than just tools or if they had no use, she'd discard them like trash! I thought that was so cruel. That's why I hate her.

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

@@LonelyChisania you kinda forgot the point of that little story arc my guy, Ruan Mei is shown to care about her creations but she doesn't understand what love is and even asks you questions that showcase that she wants to care but she's too obsessed with her research and doesn't have the emotional tools to actually love someone

[@LonelyChisania]

@Pokemaster-wg9gx Yeah, I know but it's...still cruel but what was I expecting from a genius society member? Obviously too much. Even if so, she's...honestly so difficult to understand. But really if you can't understand love than that's okay, nobody has to. But if you can't feel love, that's the problem and I can't exactly fault her for it when I know she kind of tries even in her avoidant ways but that doesn't make me like her. You didn't have to comment you know. Nothing is gonna change my opinion.

[@oyu48500]

Classic scientists u cant blame them

[@ZenRegalia]

Crazy Scientist you mean. Knowledge without Wisdom is Evil.

[@ItsYOgirl803]

You actually CAN blame them

[@oyu48500]

@@ItsYOgirl803 u can all u want but they dont care 😂😂😂

[@oyu48500]

@@ZenRegalia the deeper u go into knowledge the less u start thinking about other things

[@Sandy-ws2wm]

True . There may be some scientists who are crazy about their work. They will use all means to work. But still align with the humans safety. Example Natasha’s brother

[@virus2339]

It’s not even the Emanator, that’s just the True Sting Edit: seems some people misunderstand, i was talking about the one who invades Glamoth, that's not the Emanator, it was just the True Sting. That's the reason people started to "hate" RM, It's show how horrifying RM's plan actually is.

[@jeremyfeivel8657]

But still the baby version, cause it dies after 1 minute

[@oyu48500]

I cant killl him during ruan mei quest

[@oyu48500]

Been a freaking nightmare

[@pralenkaman8105]

@@oyu48500 run double sustain, I had fire MC and Natasha and my dps characters were, if I remember correctly, dang heng (4 star version) and tingyun, but after being stuck for a while I switched my healer to Lynx and it went much smoother with her aoe clense I had to invest a bit into her but it was worth it in the end If you have a limited 5 star sustain like huohuo or aventurine then you're golden, but if you don't, then yeah, run double sustain, this is probably the hardest boss so far in star rail at least from my experience, then again I had good relics and characters when I fought the penacony boss

[@oyu48500]

@@pralenkaman8105 ok i will try that fire MC and fu xuan should be enough for surviving ig

[@sakatagin.]

Ruan Mei : Cry More.

[@NothingVain]

Firefly: I'll rider kick your face to oblivion

[@karu3724]

She probably get PTSD if ruan mei make her fight the swarm

[@yanaaauwuw]

Ruan Mei : womp womp

[@mahaphoublue7644]

​@@karu3724 Thing could get worst since she also got a gazed by nous the euridition, and who knows since we goes to pennacony and already at the end, so what does she do around that long time while we were aways

[@byeah4823]

That isn’t exactly out of character for her because she doesn’t seem to understand emotion and empathy and we love for it

[@ahyuyuyu6949]

To be honest, when i get Firefly I'd use her specifically to kill the Swarm.

[@johnsfakianakis2108]

What if the swarm kills her too ? 🙃😅

[@daokoxd1145]

​@@johnsfakianakis2108 she is very good on Swarm SU. She just shreds the bugs with rage tbh

[@Sandy-ws2wm]

@@daokoxd1145yeah I would use Acheron’s skill. There is no need to fight.

[@indohebat]

Thats a great idea. Imma do it now

[@CucumberWaterAndBrainMatter]

I did that too, even with her underwhelming relics and stats, just to try canon

[@keoniromano1479]

the swarm mother from the trailer *wasn't even an emanator*, the thing Ruan Mei tried to clone was even more dangerous than that thing

[@Ein-Hart]

True. The Swarm we fight in SU is just a True Sting. The colossal swarm Argenti mentioned? Is just a transport ship for the Swarm. The giant Bug that invaded Glamoth was a queen. Now, Ruan Mei's creation is a god forbidden Emanator of Propagation known as Skaracabaz! The reason it self destructs is because it was incomplete as such the body cannot handle such power.

[@Deimos4500]

​@@Ein-HartNot only the body was incomplete, but the Propagation Aeon is, supposedly, dead and because Emanators are very tied with their Aeons, it is hinted that with no stable Aeon, the emanator cannot reach an stable existance. Also, one thing I can see for the future. Ruan Mei wants to reach Aeonship and be a divinity realted to the thing she is most curious of, living being or life itself. Because of that she could end working or studing another Path that is related with life, Abundance. And if we remember what happened on Xianzhou epilogue, Luocha is working with Jingliu and she wants to erradiate Yaoshi, the Abundance. But if we remember, Aeons can die and one way to do that is if a Path is absorbed for another strong one, like what happened with Order, being absorbed by Harmony. So imagine that Jingliu, who was trying to convice Jing Yuan and has Luocha by her side, ended working with Ruan Mei so Ruan Mei reaches Aeonship in a path related with life so she absorbes Yaoshi, the Abundance. In that way both will achieve their goals.

[@chairmantripley1352]

@@Deimos4500if I remember correctly, it is later implied that Propagation didn’t actually die but was actually sealed into many many pieces of Amber by Preservation.

[@sufferred7030]

Ruan Mei said that even it looks like the Emantor of Propagation, but still, it's way too weak compared to the original ones

[@Ein-Hart]

@@sufferred7030 It's weak because it's aeon is dead/sealed so it can't fully unleash it's power.

[@jonfaryanto8439]

typical scientists, but knowledge is power itself

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

Not that typical actually... There aren't that many examples of anything like this IRL. The ones that exist are high profile which is why some people have this perception

[@berlytan9575]

more like typical Aeon.

[@newohrel]

​@@neurofiedyamato8763"Esse Est Percipi. Knowledge is the measure of all things, it reveals truth, and falsehood." -Dr. Veritas Ratio

[@andikaprayogi6541]

​@@neurofiedyamato8763it's same like dottore from genshin, data is the most important, so yeah typical of mad scientist.

[@gregdoriman]

Typical scientist written by ppl who don't know shit about science. Even the pseudo DNA image is laughable.

[@jimmygames7172]

Have you ever thought that Ruan Mei, with her knowledge in genetics, manipulation and creation of living beings, could help extend the life of the firefly and cure its disease?

[@rolandcabugnason6467]

I-…hm…that sounds possible…hmmm

[@anonym0477]

Many also did say that. There's headcanon that Ruan Mei is the one who can actually cure Firefly's disease 😌🙏

[@chrislee5685]

That would put her into Abundance eye sight I wonder why RM is Harmony.

[@cronk3435]

​@@chrislee5685 technically abundance is just healing. The act of finding a cure would put her in erudition unlike the act of curing/healing (using the cure) which would put her in abundance

[@hannie.haneul]

She could, but idk if she'd even bother. So far Ruan Mei doesn't give me the impression that she cares about anyone's suffering.

[@normies4395]

The Mother Swarm isn't exactly the reason why the whole Iron Cavalry was wiped out. It was because of The Scorched Earth Operation which is basically a self destruct plan that did wiped most of rhe swarms but also wiping the SAM's

[@Khan87111]

It’s the reason of why they died cuz there’s no way to win without doing the plan

[@normies4395]

@@Khan87111 though even with the plan executed, it didn't even kill all of the swarm in Glamoth. If Firefly didn't get her power up somehow, they're technically still losing

[@jezmoz3977]

​@@normies4395Even the Queen died there's still Thousands of Bugs flying... Who knows just like bed bugs. The planet is already infested with eggs

[@cracuss31n52]

​@@jezmoz3977 the Aeon itself can lay eggs on stars. And the awarm destroyed 1/3 of the universe you can imagine a planet being filled with swarm is basically Tuesday back in those days.

[@kyubikaiju7425]

​@@normies4395 Dude idk what ur getting at, "oh technically I didn't kill him, ThE gUn diD" like what kind of logic r u using rn.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

People already called her out when she first came out. Firefly's animation just revived it and really drove home how psychopathic Ruan Mei is as if it wasn't obvious. I love firefly but I don't hate Ruan Mei either. They are just characters. I don't understand the need for people to attack others over preferences. But there are also a lot of RM fans that try to justify her actions or say she isn't psychopathic despite everything about her is written to indicate she is a textbook psychopath. I get the term has negative connotations so I suggest anyone reading this to search it up and compare the listed characteristics to how Ruan Mei acted throughout the story.

[@combatentow9932]

^

[@spinylightgaming]

Cant really judge someone from that 1 meeting as a fact. This is why i just call her a crazy scientist

[@himeshira854]

She's crazy because she doesn't have moral or ethics when doing any experiment. She too obsessed with her own goal and never thinking about how the result may be dangerous to the world. She's the clueless villain. She's the type who don't know she's the villain in someone's story. Those type of scientist someday will get their karma. Like one old man we meet inside the panacony.

[@ezubruh]

i dont like ruan mei but she is a really unique and interesting character

[@DraconicInsomniac9815]

​@@himeshira854Otto, right...? No, wait...

[@c0k4-c014]

even crazier because she did it in the SPACE STATION instead of some empty/dead planet...like all the lives that actually could've been lost if she had succeeded?

[@redrose5904]

she did succeed though, she had no intention of creating another swarm disaster 💀 she just wanted to study emanators and knew that the tb could handle it

[@IlostMyAcount]

I mean Ruan mei is basically Dr.MEI from HSR verse they both is a very crazy scientist

[@breakfasttime]

Hey dude, not to be rude but are you talking about Honkai impact 3rd or Honkai guaken?

[@IlostMyAcount]

@@breakfasttime ggz ofc

[@breakfasttime]

@@IlostMyAcount Mf destroy a universe for shit and giggles

[@dannyngo2163]

@@IlostMyAcountShit, that fucker! her h3rd is way nicer(still kinda crazy though)

[@zimacva3023]

Ruan mei is like her but with redemption

[@merto3659]

That wasnt even an emanator but true sting like the one in the swarm su main boss

[@Fireedits-8177]

Tbh this makes me like Ruan meis character even more

[@Sandy-ws2wm]

Huh are sadistic

[@newohrel]

Honestly same tho

[@somerandomguywhoschillin3540]

Making firefly work really well with ruan mei aswell as having firefly's banner debute the same time ruan mei gets a rerun is EVIL 💀

[@DefinitelyNotAWatermelon]

Ruan Mei's main issue is that she has no moral concerns, because apparently drugging the trailblazer and making them fight an ugly blue oversized bug she made is completely fine to her.

[@Vagcelestial]

Because she cannot express her emotions well, I love her but I'm not defending her actions of what she did, she's only a morally gray character

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

​@@Vagcelestial I don't she even have much expressions

[@user-ht7bb7yc4o]

Nah, just a based scientist being a based scientist.

[@digLen2700]

hsr fans being hsr fans

[@TalesofFanatic012]

As per usual

[@rui.superfan]

..for calling an evil character evil… right

[@deathcupz4662]

@@rui.superfan Ruan mei isn't evil, it's not like she is cloning it to cause destruction, it's two difference thing my guy, even if she didn't care, it's not like she made it for THAT purpose

[@mashn8328]

@@rui.superfanfor having low iq more like but go off

[@edge9323]

​@@deathcupz4662which concludes that she is a terrible person. Man straight up poisoned us so idk man although I would agree calling her evil is a bit exaggerated but yea for me she is just a walking red flag

[@ChibiBibiBa]

And thats why i love Ruan Mei

[@woopsloops7382]

Ruan Mei: that ain’t my problem

[@kahonched8079]

Ruan mei: Womp womp

[@josh.1162]

Ruan Mei, they could never make me hate you

[@m.ridzwan99-26]

Ruan mei the most misunderstood character

[@raventhuntr2366]

The Princess Bubblegum of HSR

[@Aratakaharu]

Ruan mei just studies the true sting, and it was predicted to die seconds later, i understand where the hate came from but saying her want to make another swarm disaster is plain false. Some fans need to up their reading comprehension, otherwise misinformation would always pRopAGaTe around like swarm bugs 🙄

[@kaitoyagami1664]

Misinformation - the true aeon of propagation 😂

[@niffleraku]

the thing that makes me mad (within the context of the story, im not treating her like an irl human, i dislike her but i love that she's dislikable as a character) isn't that she deliberately wants to create another swarm disaster, it's that she's clearly very unfeeling not just towards human emotions but to consequences that one day she might go too far & actually accidentally create another one. Look how much mochi cats and dumpling dogs she made in her effort to study & understand them. They've multiplied & occupied a large chunk of the station, it's a good thing they're just harmless. And she ignores them once she either finds what she wants or gets bored, so basically little to no accountability. It's not that far fetched to believe that she would potentially have the same attitude when it comes to the swarm bugs. One day she might make smth even worse & more difficult to handle than the swarm boss She's already opened the proverbial pandora's box just a little. Even if she had calculated that the swarm bug boss was gonna die in a few seconds, what if the mc wasn't strong enough to handle those few seconds, what if they slipped up and made a fatal error

[@TheGreatLunaria]

​@@kaitoyagami1664 Mythus done their job well 👍

[@Axiian19]

Ruan Mei wanted to create an Emanator, and Propagation was the easiest path to use for that-she didn't want to recreate the swarm disaster, but she also didn't seem to care much for ethics or for failsafes, in case her creations became too strong. She created an imperfect replica of Skaracabaz, an Emanator of Propagation, and it only lived for 56 seconds iirc. The real Skaracabaz would have been much larger, and had the power to destroy entire stars with its death laser. If Ruan Mei had succeeded and created the real thing, the entire space station would have likely been destroyed. The bug in Firefly's trailer is a Swarm Mother / True Sting, and an Emanator would have been MUCH larger. I like Ruan Mei's character, but dislike her as a person. My main two gripes with her is 1) we as the player aren't allowed to call her out, and 2) she doesn't make much of an effort to work on her flaws. She's so entirely absorbed in research that she neglects other things, like trying to work out a way to manage her emotions instead of ignoring them, and also caring about the people her research could affect.

[@nerveinz6453]

She doesn't care, maybe she ate dessert just tp rekindle her memory of her parents. She wants to be an Aeon but why? I believe she just doesn't care, she even left those puddings and forgot about all of them after creating tjem

[@user-ue6df4tt1h]

She doesn't want to become an aeon. She studies life. Engaged in fundamental research. She just doesn’t understand what eons are. She herself articulates her goal in the last story. Understand what life is and where it begins and ends. Yes, she assumes that having learned the essence of life and eons in particular, she herself can become one, but such a task is not worth it.

[@aelouxarchais]

Don't justify the fucking psychopath's reasons.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

She states that she wanted to become an Aeon in her trailer... Not for power but curiosity to understand Aeons and the process to Aeonhood. But that still is a desire to becoming an aeon

[@user-ue6df4tt1h]

@@neurofiedyamato8763 I've reviewed it just in case. The same as in her story. She says that having understood what aeons are, she may become one herself. That there is such a possibility. But she's not too interested. Her goal is to understand the essence of life, not to become an aeon.

[@buncotton9669]

Yes she wants to understand the essence of life but she wants to become an Aeon. Literally stated in her trailer!

[@Yorozuya4ever]

@@user-ue6df4tt1hstop with the word twisting to make urself right. She clearly states by learning of the essence of life she herself could become an aeon.

[@sakurasensations4786]

I just don’t like Ruan Mei on the mere potential for her to be a sociopath-like she clearly looks at most things as subjects of an experiment; nothing in the game has made me think she feels sentimentally toward just about anything. We’ve seen multiple of her experiments and it looks like she’s essentially abandoned them (both the cat dumpling things and the enormous swarm mother bug thing). She just doesn’t seem like somebody who cares about the actual lives and wishes of other people (in my opinion) and I don’t like how likely it is that she could do this kind of stuff again because of the resources she has access to. She’s pretty and her kit is fantastic for many characters, but that’s the only stuff I really like about her at all.

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

the strange thing was that I got basically the opposite impression. I'm autistic, so this might've just been me projecting my own experiences onto her (to be honest I find myself overly empathizing with mad scientist type characters far too often. I realized how bad that was when I saw how horrified other people were by Bondrewd), but I got the impression that she was actually very fond of her creations, and cared a lot about them, but just found herself incapable of properly expressing that affection in a way that both satisfied her creations while also keeping herself feeling comfortable. that's why she gets the Trailblazer, a character who seems to care a lot about almost everything, and who seems to show no sense of embarrassment or discomfort whatsoever about a lot of very weird/insane things, to take over the role of caring for her creations. because she feels like it's something the Trailblazer can provide for them that she's unable to properly do.

[@evanex3972]

Theres a whole mode telling us how much the disaster fucked up the world and its now that its a problem

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

Lmao

[@horriblepizza4647]

We already knew all of this before the trailer came out. It was in the glamoth set AND swarm disaster. And they also blatantly explain it during Ruan Mei's quest.

[@lucianof9080]

People made it sound like Ruan Mei was responsible for the swarm disaster. For a moment there I really thought so but it's just this???????

[@edge9323]

Ehh not really some people already dislike her from the start just because how much of an asshole she was but yea firefly simps ig

[@ninja3r35]

do people not pay attention to the story? if you only started hating her after this trailer than you probably didnt pay attention to her entire character

[@zimacva3023]

I'm about to hold you're hand and say this but.....

[@ninja3r35]

@@zimacva3023 but what? she was doing this shit the whole time, so if you only started hating her now, you haven't been paying attention

[@zimacva3023]

@@ninja3r35 if only you know how HATED this woman was before she's released 💀

[@ninja3r35]

@@zimacva3023 I started playing on the update that released her so if there was hate I didn't know about it. I was accepting the framing of the video and making a comment based on that

[@zimacva3023]

@@ninja3r35 idk where did you go after hopping in after the update bcs it's everywhere 💀

[@Sora_SireDora]

I already hated her for drugging the Trailblazer and abandoning the cake-kittens, but man, there really is no limit to how unhinged a mad scientist can be. If she wasn't the most broken character in the game, I would totally be regretting to pulling for her

[@andystar22]

Fr she abandoned those adorable creatures. Worst thing she’s done by far.

[@zimacva3023]

Good thing she now checks their well being thnx to TB ​@@andystar22

[@phong.w4829]

@@andystar22 well, when scientist are experimenting with live specimen when they are done they usually "put down" those test subjects. MEI didn't put them down for better or worse.

[@andystar22]

@@phong.w4829 they are cute. Arguement invalid

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

I'm perfectly fine with not pulling for her. Unless her personality gets better, I wouldn't ever pull.

[@D05D]

I thought everybody already hated her for abandoning those cute little pudding cats, or have they been forgotten already?

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

The hate got dry and now it's reignited

[@skyriver1240]

I disliked her for that and the bug. And for drugging the TB. She may be a pretty biologist, but that doesn't excuse her crimes.

[@jacquelynthompson5346]

She had a girlboss agenda, we already knew she didn’t have a heart. I don’t see why this is a big deal

[@zimacva3023]

More like she lacks empathy like how she treated the cake kittens for example

[@rui.superfan]

not having a heart/being a sack of shit absolutely does not equal “girlboss agenda”

[@tesalan_pasalan]

I think the bug on glamoth are the queen of true sting(adult ver of swarm).. the propagation emanator was the blue one that we fought on echo of war (starcrusher swarm king : scaracabaz) but in the lore its only the weaker clone version which can only last for about 50 seconds before suddenly disappear.

[@Fritschold_the_Knight_In_God]

Ruan Mei 🤝 Raiden MEI The craziest characters among all Hoyoverse.

[@Sky2772]

Me who hate Ruan Mei since she first came out and abandoned those precious cat cake :

[@skyriver1240]

SMAE! Before her quest, I liked her (My lesbian biology loving self loved the pretty biologist). The moment she drugged the TB, sent us to clean up her mess, and abandoned the cat cakes? Nope.

[@TelsonDraws]

That giant bug wasn't even an Emanator

[@Ravens-Call]

the emanator is blue.

[@wendyluu6025]

i'm totally picking Firefly anyway

[@Marik4295]

Because how dare a group of characters have nuance

[@kairos-049]

God forbid a woman have hobbies

[@jankentrexpalalay8879]

Yeap and shes a good teammate for Firefly. 😂

[@ria_san]

It's simple, and because of that, she tries to make up for Hotaru, so she supports her in a team XD

[@dottocult]

ruan mei reminds me of dottore from genshin

[@McDonaldsKlee]

Ruan Mei has always been hated by many because she threw us into that swarm and acted like nothing's happened after that :^

[@phong.w4829]

becuase she's already calculated that the close will die within less than one minute, 56 seconds to be exact

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

​@@phong.w4829 still could've gave a heads up. Just a simple warning would be nice. But she didn't say anything.

[@negativekarma3544]

If people didn’t hate Ruan Mei before then they’re just firefly simps. It’s okay that she basically brainwashed MC and put the entire station at risk but as soon as it’s firefly now it’s a problem 😂

[@dandetorres4058]

if the risk you are ref. is reviving the enamator bug, I think thats a calculated risk, that thing was only meant to live less than a minute, it can do damage to Herta station but not enough damage to blow it whole imo

[@toaaxxon123]

That was a brood mother true sting not an emanator

[@kvs5932]

I would do the same, the aeons have great aesthetics

[@nitroblaze6696]

Hated her from the beginning, first impression is straight up drugging the trailblazer and then she tells us to clean up the mess SHE created because her trying to play god went horribly wrong

[@spinylightgaming]

Actually it didnt go horribly wrong. In reality she used you to see if the swarm matches the same strength of its origins under the extremely short lifespan it has. The only thing we did was prevent the swarm from being found out by herta, asta, security devision etc.

[@nitroblaze6696]

@@spinylightgaming so the she drugged us to be her little test subject to test out the swarm she created... That's even worse

[@newohrel]

I mean she gave us another weekly boss to kill so..

[@himeshira854]

​@@spinylightgamingbut still she can just ask us nicely like any normal person in the whole universe. We know how trailblazer are. As long as we get reward we can do everything to finish the job.

[@spinylightgaming]

@@himeshira854 1st off thats not the purpose of trailblazing. The purpose is adventure and freedom, fame and fortune is just a running joke bc of the player base. She was supposed to be eccentric and mysterious. Shes also a secluded crazy scientist and is protective to her research and experiments. Asking for a story to be normal or convenient can make it boring. Thats why they added stakes and conditions.

[@donovanmoran7937]

Blame the scientist for trying to understand how things work... Also love a soldier unit who was in a war to stop another creature... "BuT tHeY wErE fIgHtInG fOr SuRvIvAl!" Having that kind of weaponry prepared just for "survival" seems kinda odd, Glamoth fought for their survival making scientific engineered people, not even human, more like Sieg in Fate, homunculi. Whole Honkai Universe is in a fight with someone, be it in the same planet, other planets, propagation wants what? To propagate and ensure the species longevity, Glamorg made soldier with a f*ckin time limit to how long they last so no amount of anything can ensure they live long. You wouldn't blame the ants for trying to make a colony in you backyard even less would you burn them and your house and call yourself "a hero" just for killing them

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

The Ruan Mei fan boy coming with twisted logic to justify her actions. The swarm isn't just an ant colony. They are invasive species like releasing gold fish in a local lake killing the entire ecosystem. The swarm does not have any more right to survive than anything else. A goldfish does not have any more right to live than all the other species in the lake. Ruan Mei is trying to reintroduce a universal threat. And then you go saying these soldiers forced to fight is criminally liable for the actions of the government is insane. It is wrong to blame a draftee for the government's policy. They didn't enlist by choice.

[@donovanmoran7937]

@@neurofiedyamato8763 you just said "releasing a gold fish in a local lake killing the ecosystem", you blaming the fish for that? They were put there, also you obviously didn't got my point about the firefly units, just by the scene of her destroying the planet and the swarm with it, that means if possible all units had that power, why would you need it then? Many countries count with nuclear bombs, because why not right? Same point I said, why would you make living weapons that could end up nuking a planet, and many of them units at that! You prepare to go to a war and destroy everything for the sake of survival is the same as villains saying "I'll destroy everything and reign" you'll end up reigning the dust and loneliness. I actually dislike Ruan Mei, not for the swarm thing that's how scientist work, but also that's how scientist work, complete disregard for anyone in the name of their research, even the ones who created Firefly, you think she and the other were the first ones?, that there were no errors while doing them? Ruan Mei is trying to recreate in a controlled environment a creature that would be leveled in Catastrophe, but a Planetary-nuke-girl shouldn't be treated as some saviour, is just a ticking bomb

[@darkwhispersstories47]

​​@@donovanmoran7937I mean you are just assuming that Fireflies could have done that when the whole point of these series was to show ours is different it could be she is the only one that even managed to unlock that kind of firepower out of her suit, Not to mention that Fireflies were build to specifically fight the swarm, their entire existence is a full on lie told by their united galactic republic so they will fall in line, they are in fact victims on all fronts, The Aeon of Propagation (because I can't spell their name) spread like this because it felt lonely and they started to literally attack the whole universe they are literally build to devour everything in their path, the comparison is blatantly bad on every front. On top of that Ruan Mei resurrected the Emanator specifically to learn from it how to become an aeon, And for the record no scientific research that implies the endangerment of the entire universe/planet is worth prasin especially one that manipulates life as such scales

[@donovanmoran7937]

@@darkwhispersstories47 if they were built to specifically fight the swarm, bio-engineered weapons, you can't call them "victims", you are calling a weapon a victim. Me speculating all Firefly units could do that is reasonable since it's shown how one just takes out the front piece of his helmet as a receiver to signal the cannon just evaporate everything, they have the tech and weapons you outing Firefly as the special one is just a way of saying they should've sent only her, her companions died for nothing just for her to go full Saiyan, get traumatized scream and explode the planet with her power, you try to defend a weapon who on a PTSD attack she can erase you and the world, I'm not defending Ruan Mei, I'm just saying dont make her the bad guy for trying to gain knowledge, because remember it's a whole association of researchers who somehow know what she is doing, including Ratio, and they do nothing about it, why not blame them? Ruan Mei still is doing it for research and the Emanator deteriorates, an expected result but not enough time to study it at full since the Emanator can't hold life for long time and since Tayzzinrot is no longer alive the Emanator wouldn't actually be an Emanator, you can't be the acolyte of a god who is dead. And actually yes but no to the scientific research part of your comment, nowadays they have "standards" one of them being "no experimenting with the sames species you are" being that humans, throughout history there were records of many many experiments being done on humans because you cant be sure if the medicine works for a dog or a rat it will work on humans, the foundation for many researches and discoveries is a pile of bodies, the oldest are human, then animals so yeah science doesn't care of endangerment, progress doesn't care, how many animals have gonne extinct just so the human can build houses? In the name of progress, prosperity and in some cases, in the name of science

[@darkwhispersstories47]

@@donovanmoran7937 Brother I litteraly stated that she must have unlocked her suit powers after that event we litteraly were never shown ANOTHER Firefly ever doing what she did and we were shown clearly that she only did it after. Your logic is also against you if they could obviously all have the strength to wipe out the planets then they will not need a space laser for one of them to throw the visor at or more than one so CLEARLY actually VERY CLEARLY that it's not in the capability of a standard Firefly. Yeah your entire existence being nothing but a lie to your empress to the reason you fight to pretty much the entire reason you fight totally doesn't make you a victim at all nope let me guess the Clone Troopers from Star Wars are not victims of Sidious plans either right? Ratio does in fact hold a standard for himself and he himself stated he HATES how the geniuses of the genius society do things but he is incapable of doing anything since among them there are litteral Emenators (like Herta) Herta herself experiments in a simulated environment (the experiment that we know off at least) and Screwlum and Ratio also add their own spin in simulated in 2.3

[@badcompany1318]

Tbh i wanna see ruan mei achieve her goal I think it'd be cool one of the characters we know becomes an aeon

[@redrose5904]

she did care ab the potential disaster though??? she told tb that shed intervene if they were faced with something they couldnt take, she predicted that the emanator would self destruct in under a minute

[@camilagames218]

Finally! I was tired of hating her alone lol

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

My brethren

[@marianadobreva_]

And they're running together 💀

[@StarRailEnjoyerSinceRelease]

And yet they so good together😭

[@SarahSainaba]

Ruan Mei knew it would die after 56 seconds.

[@El_gato89]

For science

[@Nitrojmh]

never liked ruan mei to begin with...

[@YzuAiha]

Ironically, she's one of the best support for Firefly 💀

[@utsubyo]

and then there's me who likes ruan mei even more now lol i love weird but smart characters, it makes me want to interact with them more so i can maybe someday understand why they're doing what they're doing and what they're thinking

[@zenoviano1668]

They are not true hoyo fans. Fr if they see otto or hell the rest of flamechaser specifically mobius. They would Nonstop Talk negatively about her

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

"Her" as in who?

[@CanIgetUwU]

Those two isn't even close to Dr Mei in ggz. But in short, scientist in hoyo are deadly.

[@zenoviano1668]

@@neurofiedyamato8763 Mobius

[@cursedcat9557]

If they hate Ruan mei and if she turns out to be a villain in the future it's basically a win they wrote a good villain for people to love and hate

[@rui.superfan]

This comment is just really stupid, you don’t need to love every singe evil character to be a “true hoyo fan.” I love hoyo games and i hate a lot of their evil characters

[@eiraeirazchsen]

Generic scientist behaviour

[@Kerath]

"Trust the science." -Ruan Mei

[@outsiderd]

it's deeper than that... or rather it's not only that

[@_an1s_]

W ruan mei now i have a big reason to pull her hoping for winning

[@jayy2418]

Y'all are hating the wrong person please read the dialogues the emanator being revived to die a few seconds later she was just experimenting which is what scientists do lol. Ruan mei has no records of killing what so ever where as firefly does she's killed people literally shes literally a mass murderer don't let that sad backstory fool you. Anyways I love them both my lovely psychopaths 🎀

[@Vagcelestial]

REAL OMG SOMEONE WHO GETS IT

[@Saix1031]

Exactly lol. Ppl just have firefly brainrot and they’re biased.

[@bepo1702]

​@@Saix1031firefly is overrated af fr

[@Saix1031]

@@bepo1702 fax, she’s good but the way hoyo pushed her onto ppl who don’t rlly like her was the problem.

[@bepo1702]

@@Saix1031 I ended up caving and pulling because of the sam mech, and I happened to have 2 ruan mei lightcones sitting around for HMC and RM, so I said fuck it and got her. She honestly just isn't my type of character, I don't hate her, just think she was given way more attention than deserved. Almost all the scenes of her doing badass stuff in the mech was either drastically cut short, or outright offscreened. I was hoping the story would redeem her a lot more than it did, at least as far as I'm concerned but she was kinda just reduced to being a cute girl that people can simp for or something like that. That's gacha players for you though

[@user-vd6li1yj9m]

which makes me love ruan mei even more

[@noor_xd9473]

The irony is that she works well with both ruan and the propagation path And she will follow the path to propagation in the future because her ship with the mc has been confirmed 👍 Acheron said it "you can't escape your past and neither can i"

[@biiful]

they cant make me hate you ruan mei

[@blinkjennie1206]

Imagine hating a character from the game for their ambitions 💀 dude hsr players you should chill

[@darkwhispersstories47]

Their ambitions are to become a god and they are not afraid to walk on anyone to achieve that goal. Respect the hustle but hate for everything else

[@ViTeofilo]

My dude, if you are not a HSR player, let me expain to you. The Aeon (What Gods are called in this game) of Propagation, Tayzzyronth, and all their creatures (including the Emanator, something like a demigod in this game, chosen or created by the Aeons) affected 2/3 of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, with destruction and killing, on what is known as the "Swarm Disaster". In order to stop this fucker, other 5/6 Aeons were needed. Ruan Mei is trying to clone a creature capable of incalculable damage. The Emanator of Propagation, Skaracabaz. We are not hating a character "for their ambition", We are hating a character for being an absolute psycopath and having no consideration for human life whatsoever.

[@blinkjennie1206]

@@ViTeofilo I don't play hsr so I don't get most of what you said XD

[@ViTeofilo]

@@blinkjennie1206 Let me try to simplify that to you then. >Big evil powerful monster = Bettle >Bettle is really, REALLY powerfull >Bettle was defeated and sealed a long time ago > Psycopath Genius is trying to study life in all forms. > Psycopath Genius tries to clone a creature that is capable of doing inimaginable damage and kiling. >Psycopath Genius doesn't care if/how many people die because of her studies. > Now that we have a small glimpse of how bad the bettle and the swarm was in the past, we now conclude that Psycopath Genius should burn in hell. Better now?

[@syedtaufik8350]

Basically the dude explain that ruan mei (the scientist) try to create or ressurect an evil god that kill a lot of people and other life form in the universe and in the past it took almost all the other god to kill this evil god. Ruan mei make this experiment just for curiosity as a scientist in which can make entire universe in danger again. And she does't even care about others.

[@DeeGlassGhosts]

The fact that they made them share banner together is wild 😅😅

[@renzokuken8445]

Ruan mei: cry louder

[@Truemaxifora]

Im for every plan and idea that Ruan Mei tries to turn into reality, for some reason I just dont give a shit about firefly really

[@praisethelordgriffith8338]

id rather her ressurect the swarm to kill ff--- kidding aside at least ff would do smth interesting than be bland. ff ingame is just so disconnected with bloodthirsty sam and her coolass lore. they shouldve just focused on that instead of the forcedass ship. also, the cool things she did in penacony... were offscreen and was just told by acheron instead of it being shown.

[@Truemaxifora]

@@praisethelordgriffith8338 fr

[@adamsanya4491]

Ruan Mei is kinda stupid when you look on another perspective. Why creating an emanator of propagation which clearly a huge deadly potential toward herself. 1. Even she managed to create an Emanator of Propagation, it doesn't allign on Ruan Mei herself like Acheron with IX. It called path for a reason after all 2. If path doesn't matter as long you manage to create an Emanator, it still doesn't clear what criteria you need to be An Aeon since Aha literally laughing ass till achieved Aeonhood. Aeon doesn't have clear criteria to be one afterall 3. Ruan Mei did revitalize an entire planet herself so why she doesn't try to create an Emanator of Abundance or anything as long it's aligned with herself Therefore, Ruan Mei is kinda stupid when you look on this perspective

[@cursedcat9557]

I think she could follow the path of propagation since she is trying to create life and to propagate means to bring as many life as possible or to put it simply to breed life so it aligns abundance means a large amount of something usually living things Two paths can collide with each other and propagation and abundance is very similar so mind my English here since both has similar meaning to "plenty" or "many" they can definitely be significant later down the line but this is just a fun little theory I have at the back of my head don't take it seriously

[@adamsanya4491]

@@cursedcat9557 No problem and yeah I can see that way as well since Order and Harmony do colide with each other as well so I can see your stand there

[@Khan87111]

@@cursedcat9557but that’s the problem the aeons and paths collide but even after the death of the aeon of such path it still exists and the abundance as far as I know was born after the sealing of the remnants of the propagation it’s unknown whether it’s considered alive or dead if it’s dead nothing will happen if alive the abundance will easily win and the path of propagation will still exist like how order still exists even after the harmony won when the paths collided

[@Vagcelestial]

Ruan Mei doesn't have any intentions of EXACTLY creating an Emanator, she only replicated the Emanator of Propagation because she's the closest to the Aeons and found out it was easier to replicate the Propgation.Plus she predicted the seconds when will the exact Emanator died.

[@Khan87111]

@@Vagcelestial that’s what’s worse she didn’t tell the trailblazer to how long it lasts so rather then trying to fight it head on he would have just tried to last as long as possible(a lower chance to die) and she didn’t do that while she drugged us making us unable to say anything related to her and how would she know how exactly strong it is and how will it fight to know if we can survive or not while at the same time not really helping while she is the cause of such problem

[@fredd9679]

I'm still amazed by how much info and corrections you can give in almost every aspect in the game and the dedication to studying different mythologies is honestly amazing. 100/10 video though, looking forward to more.

[@areoblast]

Hate her? Naw I love her. I have a thing for scientist and alchemist

[@manofculture1554]

So stupid, where even this theory comes from, do more research

[@tig8029]

From the game ?

[@manofculture1554]

@@tig8029 are you slow?

[@Flying_Peach]

What theory?

[@Flying_Peach]

Ruan Mei is a crazy scientiest she didn't care if many people suffred

[@ryanmalik3378]

Because ruan mei want revive swarm to resurrect aeon propagation. Meanwhile we know firefly race (SAM) saving galaxy to beat swarm disaster. So basically ruan mei want make another Swarm disaster just because she curious. When first story she came out, player already know she is evil. Ruan mei not deny that, also she use something to make people who look at her will like her, so nobody can't hate her. That's why when trailblazer can see her face, she curious about trailblazer. Our character also ask if ruan mei we see now is her true form or not. But ruan mei said she don't know too, because her already forgot how her true form. So she also speculate the form ruan mei trailblazer see maybe someone who she/he likes. Sorry my bad English.

[@rimurutempest6508]

Wtf what kind of hsr are you playing???

[@Aratakaharu]

You completely misunderstood

[@biyoofluff]

Are we playing the same game? What?

[@pondypoo]

1 SAMs did t save the galaxy, they didn’t even save their planet 2 She didn’t want to create SD, she wants to understand something beyond her comprehension which starts an an emenators, it could be any emenators but she states that a simple emenators like Scarabaz might be easier 3 There’s no such drug that makes people like her, it makes them unable to speak about her and forget her 4 I’m not even gonna bother with that last one

[@Vagcelestial]

Your literally misunderstanding something there...

[@wolfyfluff7585]

Ruan Mei: i miss the part where that's my problem

[@keviiag9198]

They can never make me hate u Ruan MeI😩🫶

[@I-got-lost-Zoro]

No one is hating on Ruan Mei and if you see those comments then its most likely them joking

[@speedweed2236]

Ruan Mei has every reason to be hated though

[@humanzzzz]

Lots of them are being serious, unfortunately

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

​​​@@humanzzzzNo. I haven't seen anyone state they hate her. They probably exist but no way are they common. People just rightly criticized and called out her actions which existed since day one RM story was released. It is just the RM fans defending her and justifying her actions. It's weird because people love Kafka but don't whiteknight her actions. Yet somehow they feel the need to justify RM.

[@lmpllml9615]

have you seen hoyolab?

[@truelyme0]

I'm actually hate Ruan Mei!^^

[@Luv1yxx_]

They came out in the same patch 😨

[@RyeoCyrano]

Ruan Mei, must proteccc

[@Dr.snake.78]

in fact that made me like ruan even more firefly should ve died on that war I truly hate her

[@sokkazan]

Gosh, honkai starrails lore is so good

[@tsuna111]

no its not a emanator the emanator is throwing a fooking energy ball

[@kauehenry4448]

fireflies: we destroy the queen of the swarm Ruan mei; nuh uh

[@hangnguyen-bh6ot]

the perfect team com for Firefly is perfect

[@tufol33k78]

on a power level, she's already an eon

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

i absolutely fucking love how we've literally known this since the Glamoth relic set was out or 1.6 at the latest (i think Ruan Mei was 1.6) but people are just not remembering it because the don't fucking read the relic stuff lel

[@Master_Wisd0m]

Love how these twos synergy in the game is insane despite them being polar opposites

[@nurulhusnanorhazhar328]

shoot! this makes me wanna pull for firefly but im saving for Jiaoqiu and sunday TTATT

[@bleccpenter0771]

When the evil mad scientist character is actually an evil mad scientist

[@SUNOSidk]

A minor correction. Glamoth wasn't just a planet. It was a star system that used to rival the IPC's power, both in economics and influence. Not to mention, Glamoth also has the Iron Cavalry. Which even to this day, very few rival their military strength. The planet Firefly fought on (and subsequently destroyed) was one of many planets in the Glamoth star system that fell to the swarm disaster. P.S. The swarm disaster was thousands of years ago. Therefore, Firefly was in cryo sleep for a very long time. And it does make sense why she's the only Iron Cavalry Soldier that we know of. Especially since Glamoth's soldiers die young due to Entropy Loss Syndrome.

[@imtheinfamous]

"I can fix her" 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@noxgamez2503]

and ironically she is the harmony chara u need for the firefy super break team