Why Run The Wing T

Reasons why coaches use the Wing T

[@jacobphillips1483]

Thanks for sharing coach. We played a team that was Pistol Wing-T and we were able to get after them on defense a little bit by reading guards. In my opinion, when a Wing-T team starts doing false pulls that really makes it tough. Good video!

[@turko7477]

The wing T is a linemans dream a down block right to the ear hole never got old let me tell u what I used to down block the 3 technique into the nose tackle or the back side d lineman great times!

[@fortheboyz773]

Love it coach! Really appreciate you responding to my questions with an entire video. I shared this video with some coaches on my staff. Really appreciate your list of "whys"! Brought up some things I wasn't thinking of

[@egschreib4795]

Keep up the great work coach. Hope the offseason is going well.

[@coachsheffer6166]

Coach, That's exactly how I would block the Trap, haha Love you video coach, appreciate the Wing-T love

[@jeffcintron5247]

Great stuff coach! I have played and coached the Wing T my entire life, and I found it very interesting to see how non Wing T coaches look to scout out stuff. Your understanding of the offense is pretty good.

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Jeff Cintron My first year encountering the Wing T was my junior year of high school in Cleveland Ohio and nearby Chardon High was one of the most successful teams that run the offense because they're kids were running that offense since they came out of the womb lol But it's been a great offense I love to build a program with and I've kept the core principles no matter what my primary system has been.

[@jeffcintron5247]

Ecirta Pacino What a small world, I too grew up in northeast Ohio just outside of Youngstown. I still live here with my family and now coach for my alma mater. We are in the small school D6 and still see a steady dose of Wing T.

[@bradfordgoerss3242]

Great video coach. I'd love to get your take on defending the wing-t / double wing / wishbone style offense that rely solely on deception. I have a very small HS team and I run a variation of these offenses. It's be great to hear your thoughts on how you'd defend that. Great video!!

[@anthonyarinaga9086]

I have had the pleasure of being grounded in Wing T as a coach, playing in the I and the. Learning Spread and Tempo. Each of these schemes have given me some great concepts and advantages on using a tool kit to set up a Defense for a long night. I love the other concepts about perfecting what works and tossing what doesn't.

[@CoachMac]

All the best offenses have a little bit of everything nowadays

[@mpfiester79]

Well done as usual!

[@benstout6982]

Looks fairly accurate. For the coach that asked the question in first place. Understand that most teams will specialise in specific series and use another series as the way to 'protect' their main series. Belly teams will use trap/bucksweep to show a different look. Goes back to the earlier video about "being who you are and protecting who you are".

[@OnionPD58]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="980">16:20</a> We call it a hinge block because our tackles arent really pass blockers so theguard goes out behind to protec perimeter

[@georgecagle927]

Good stuff! Would you share on how you might defend against this offense in the 425?

[@ryantheuer9497]

the reasons you listed are exactly why my team runs the wing-t. we won state last year and have a pretty good chance at repeating despite most of our kids having never played football until they got to high school. the one thing I'd add as an advantage is that you have very few plays where you get zero or negative yardage. it may be 3 yards and a pile of dust at times, but you almost always get something and don't put yourself in a hole behind the sticks. we've scored 135 points in our first two games with a LB converted to a QB out of necessity, so the idea that the wing-t can't be an explosive offense is BS too.

[@formerlyknownaseasrob]

Pretty good video in my estimation. Being from south Louisiana, the first guy I thought of when you mentioned a wing-t coach who can make the kind of adjustments you mentioned is Brent Indest, coach of Catholic High of New Iberia. He’s made many deep playoff runs and has won a state title or two running the wing-t, though his most recent title came when he made adjustments to fit his offense around Ole Miss commit QB Jason Pellerin a couple of years back. This year he’s back in the championship game with more of a true wing-t offense lead by Diallo Landry at QB who is listed as a 3 star athlete by basically all recruiting sites. Side note, Indest will have to go through Louisiana coaching legend Lewis Cook of Notre Dame high school for the championship game.

[@formerlyknownaseasrob]

Update: Indest and Catholic High of New Iberia won 33-16.

[@madD8845]

With you being from Louisiana, I would have thought the first coach you thought of running Wing T would have been Coach Eddie Robinson from Grambling University. They ran Wing T for over 20 years.

[@paultrahan3905]

Kaplan runs it well too. We had a guy that had 2,000 yards in 2018. 3 peat Semifinals and playoffs every year since 2007

[@dexterg90]

We ran the wing t triple option at my Alma mater and it frustrated the hell out of everyone. My Alma mater JUST won the Illinois 6A title this past weekend with the same system. You can do alot with this system. I love it

[@CoachMac]

Absolutely, great offensive system

[@drudown7628]

Won a CIF Championship in CA in 1990 proven HS offense

[@CoachMac]

100% Very hard to defend when done properly

[@italiancapo7]

Coach what’s your opinion on how best to communicate with parents and players? Email? Text? Giving out your personal cell number seems risky and having a second phone & number is a hassle and costly. What’s your take on this, especially with being a teacher on campus. Thanks.

[@joedean3578]

I played in the wesco south 4A division in washington. Seen the wing t often. We were taught to follow the guards. It was actually fairly simple overall to defend. We would even scrimmage Bellevue every spring because we faced so many as wing t offenses and we ran a spread concept which they faced often. Bellevue mastered the wing t and won like 6 or 7 seven titles. You're right coach, they dont need the biggest lineman its a quick hit and angle offense. Discipline and reading keys is a must. After that all the motions and stuff become ineffective

[@CoachMac]

Eye discipline is huge!!!

[@tonyanthonyfowler]

sid luckman ran the wing t for the bears back in the 40s and killed it, I just wish we would see more teams run it

[@Matt209Tecmo]

Great video. Thanks coach Mac!

[@CoachMac]

Glad you liked it!

[@Matt209Tecmo]

@@CoachMac The high school I work for is changing to the Wing-T. In an attempt to familiarize with it I went to KZbin and found your video. I thought you were great. I'm fairly new to the coaching staff so it really helps to understand the lingo of football so I appreciate the videos. For example, you had talked about a term "same as". Totally helpful

[@coachsheffer6166]

About the Waggle, most coaches do pull the guards to the waggle, but some do what you said and leave it as a naked action and have the guards go away. Game plan, if we think the defense is going to read guards we will naked boot it.

[@timjackson16]

I played High School in a Double Tight Wing-T Offense (Mostly Super Power, Wing Counter Trey, Wedge) but we did run a Buck Sweep Package with a Trap and Waggle. Our Waggle though wasn’t a true Waggle though. The Playside Tight End ran a Corner. The Tackle blocked down and the Guard kicked out the End so it created a natural throwing lane for the QB. Our QB though liked to treat it as a Waggle and run out sometimes and the End would sack him. However for the most part these Blocking Schemes you drew up are pretty accurate. I don’t think anyone should complain about them much. Great video coach!

[@jfktheloop27]

My school does the same in our Tight personnel. Playside te runs a corner, fullback goes to the flat, and backside te runs a drag (we call it a waggle) route

[@timjackson16]

jfktheloop16 We also had the backside Wing run a Post. But we didn’t run it a whole lot. My coach loved the Super Power Series even though I felt like our Trap Play was our most consistent run.

[@camdenmaroon4983]

on waggle, the first guard is used to seal on the 5 tech while the second guard is looking for an outside force coming for the qb. if there is none, the guard will turn around and pick up any backside trash.

[@CoachMac]

Love It

[@bmonty1915]

Eureka High and Ferndale High in Northern California have ran this damn offense for the past 40 years. Hate it or love it. No in between. Both of those high schools have won many section titles.

[@CoachMac]

Score points, however you do it is up to you. Plenty of state champion Wing T Teams and Single Wing Teams and Flexbone teams. Winning is winning

[@jamesjones41]

I coach in the Seattle area. We played 5 teams that ran variations of the wing T. Some traditional wing t and other teams that lined up shotgun but ran wing t teams.

[@CoachMac]

Definitely seems to be a geographic based deal based on location and probably types of athletes. We do not see it much in Florida.

[@jamesjones41]

@@CoachMac Like flexbone in some of the Midwestern states.

[@CoachMac]

Yes, I think the talent level or types of players effects the schemes used in different parts of the country. I think weather plays a role also.

[@frank-yo7wf]

;Big Frank;we take his Big Bird;His Veteran;

[@robertmosher7418]

They pull the guard to the waggle side to have a blocker on the edge rush. They only pull it to the waggle side if there's a real "dude" out there. Otherwise they like to naked boot.

[@andrewmell9872]

I only lost 4 games in 4 years in high school with this offense along with a state title my senior year. The wing t when executed right can make a team with far superior athletes look real stupid.

[@CoachMac]

It is a great high school offense and a lot of college football uses Wing T principals. Congrats on a great high school career and a state title. You will never forget that experience.

[@robertmosher7418]

The wing T is also counter heavy. Lots of misdirection.

[@Tampa-Todd]

Great videos. Who is doing it the best in today's game? What program would you study for the Wing-T? Anyone in the state of FL? We are based out of Tampa.

[@CoachMac]

I would say Bolles, Madison County used to

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Coach I ran across some of the Single Wing Package that's ran over at Apopka Have you ever come across Coach Darlington and sat down with him?

[@austincrisp]

We are true wing t. We see under front a lot. 1, 5, 9 to strong And a 3, 5 backside Also see 3, 7 strong And 1, 5 backside

[@terryking3006]

Coach belly we split block a 1&5 or2&5 we cross 3&5

[@terryking3006]

We still run 90%. Of. The wing run game just out of tempo

[@mariahicks5513]

My school plays a wing t and we are going to state this Saturday. #PoplarvilleHornets

[@CoachMac]

Congrats and good luck!!!!

[@RealMikeG]

IMO you can make a strong argument that you do see the wing-t on Saturday’s. Clemson runs a lot of the same blocking schemes just out of a shot-gun look.

[@formerlyknownaseasrob]

Michael Grant Auburn too even. Probably Auburn to a greater extent actually.

[@parabellum_recondos1853]

Michael Grant GA Tech runs it all the time

[@terryking3006]

Philip Age Georgia tech is a triple option midline team bud Paul Johnson is the triple option guru they run a double wing set but that’s about as close as he gets to a wing t

[@parabellum_recondos1853]

Terry King oh ok my mistake. I always treated them the same. I thought what navy and paul johnson at ga tech was the same thing

[@luthermccray3136]

Exactly. You see tons of Wing T stuff at Auburn every Saturday

[@luthermccray3136]

You see it every Saturday at Auburn

[@CoachMac]

Luther McCray you do not see Wing T every Saturday at Auburn. You see versions of Wing T staples like Buck Sweep. Every offensive play can trace back to something in time.

[@luthermccray3136]

Thomas MacPherson you don't see the traditional wing T sets but you see a lot of wing T principals out of gun. Gus has even said so himself. Wing T is not necessarily a formation more than it is a system. Would you agree with that?

[@CoachMac]

Luther McCray yes but I’m not sure how closely that system resembles wing t even though gus is an old wing t guy

[@robertmosher7418]

@@CoachMac it's like when a coach, and one I love and respect, tells me that the spread offense is a two by two offense and formation and not a theory or concept on how we want to use all 6396 sq yards of the field to stretch the defense thin and attack empty grass. Spread offensive principles can be used in an I formation team. I know a guy who runs the Delaware Wing T and does huddle. However, they huddle 4 yards from the ball call the play and Sprint to the ball and snap it on first sound. It is so quick that it is faster than any no huddle trams I have ever seen. Partly because he doesn't worry about one of two high safeties and doesn't care what they align in. And partly because he has the next play going out as soon as they blow the whistle

[@timothyphipps7883]

Just curious as to the offense you grew up with before the spread days. When I was young teams ran teams ran Wing T, Wishbone, I Formation or Split Veer.

[@CoachMac]

I formation, I was a QB and RB early then an X Receiver or "Split End" most of my career

[@timothyphipps7883]

@@CoachMac I grew up in Arizona. Played high school football ( RB) in the late 80’s and starting coaching in the early 90’s Out here at that time Wing-T was king. Multiple state titles with various teams. I am a spread guy now but still utilize some aspects of the wing-t in my schemes. Thanks for the reply, Good luck this year

[@rage4shot317]

Here in Michigan it’s the Fullhouse T

[@mrbrianklee]

...and until this past year I hate defending it. Talk about same as...only 4 plays, but out of a double tight formation so they are super balanced both ways depending on personnel. We improved a lot against it, but still went 2-2 in the 4 games we defended it this year.

[@bobmaycroft7034]

Great video! You were darn good at the blocking schemes as well. In our confrence we will play 7 of 9 games against the wing t. We also run it. Two TE, two Wing attack. The best way to beat a wing t is to line head up in the interior and make your DE play flat. When we get DE flying up field it's a blessing. No need to block him. Its pretty nice to not have to account for the playside end.

[@JSavo_]

West michigans Zeeland west, cedar springs, belding all run it very well.

[@ketolion]

What are the best 2 series from wing t for 2nd/3rd graders?

[@CoachMac]

Buck Sweep and Trap in my opinion, but would carry Waggle also

[@jacobhicks7591]

In high school I blocked waggle with a naked quarterback bootleg in a wing t system so it is possible

[@CoachMac]

That's what makes football so great, so many possibilities.

[@spartanQB10]

I’m a high school coach in Delaware( which is obviously where it started with coach Tubby Raymond) and out of our 10 regular season games we usually play about 6-8 teams a year that run it.. if any coaches would like to see some files I have on stopping it feel free to reach out I love making connections and swapping info

[@CoachMac]

Yep that's the mecca

[@spartanQB10]

Thomas MacPherson even to this day about 60% of the schools in our state run it its crazy

[@MikeSmith-ty7dd]

I’m a Jr. High LB and OL coach in a system that runs Wing T from Mites up through the HS. I can’t argue with our results system wide. Our HS has won 2/3 last state championships and just finished undefeated headed into the playoffs this year. Our Pee Wee team just finished their second straight undefeated season as well. We have quick and athletic kids but generally our line is outsized every week. Coach hit the nail on the head regarding the benefits of the WT system.

[@zachthomas7175]

We play a wing-t offense in round 2 of our state playoffs. Would love to get files on how to beat it. They are picked to win the state title this year. Need some help.

[@spartanQB10]

Zach Thomas email me ... [e-mail]

[@anthonyarinaga9086]

Addressing the pulling of the BSG on Waggle, it does two things. 1: It gives a visual que to the PS Inside LB. Most LBs will read the PSG and Center to Near Back. The Dive Back Guard and Center Show Dive, this is used to draw the LB up, and clear space for the Drag or Over Route. The BSG pulls for the LB who peaks to the opposite side, when they see a hole they have usually already taken a look at the Triangle to their side. So that hole to them is away and they see the Dive Back letting up and now go to step to the backside of the play trying to read the Halfback or Motion Wing depending on Formation. The Second part is the BSG logs which allows a pocket vs the BSDE. Of he crashes then he gets pinned and the QB can get wide forcing a pressure or cover decision by the OLB. If the DE Contains the aforementioned Dive Back action allows a pocket as the BSG pulls. With that layer to layer vs the $. In short it has a purpose, and that is to adjust to the BSDE/EMLOS and also create a run read by the PS ILB which creates space underneath

[@anthonyarinaga9086]

Which helps and for those who utilize Wing T and Zone/RPO concepts you can cause some serious havoc by showing Buck and having the BSE on a Slant, especially when they stack the box. The Zone Blocking may not be a specialty for your team, but it does work well when they key the guards and if you run any kind of zone split, it really does a number on the reads by the secondary. You don't have to outsmart the guy coaching across from you, you just have to find the one or two kids who have tendencies you can exploit

[@CoachMac]

I’m talking about drop back action passes

[@andrewmell9872]

Wing T true base formation has two tight ends.

[@CoachMac]

Originally yes, but most people that responded to questions said they were more 1 TE, Wing, and 2 backs.

[@anthonylasure5286]

Coach Mac, that blocking scheme is pretty close. I don't think their should be too many complaints. I have a distinct memory of playing left D Tackle weighing 230 getting down blocked by a 320 pound rright tackle when we played a double tight wing t team around the year 2000. I got crushed pretty good that night

[@benstout6982]

Anthony LaSure a double wing team or a double tight wing-t team? Both are incredibly powerful but specialise in different stuff.

[@wilsontoddd5253]

In. Texas. A lot. Of. High. School. Teams. Pass. More. Then. Running. The. Ball. I. Wish. That. They. Wouid. Run. More. Of. A. Wing. T. Or. Slot. T. Or. Something. Like. That.

[@CoachMac]

Those offenses are fun

[@FrankTichenor-r7h8013psTif]

Big bird;

[@philvogt7671]

Umm. See it on Saturday every week. Even on Sundays sometimes.

[@CoachMac]

You see certain schemes on Saturday and Sunday but not traditional Wing T as an offense. I’m assuming you are aware of tgat

[@CoachMac]

Or “that”

[@philvogt7671]

Thomas MacPherson army pummeled folks this year running it.

[@CoachMac]

I’ll agree

[@luhjai8779]

You need REALLY good REALLY big REALLY physical linemen

[@CoachMac]

They usually help!!!!

[@luhjai8779]

My teams biggest linemen is like 6'2 275 but the stars of our offense are easily our running backs www.maxpreps.com/m/high-schools/spring-woods-tigers-(houston,tx)/football-fall-18/schedule.htm we went 1-10 so it was pretty bad idk what went wrong

[@romeda5156]

Too old school for my taste but I can see the benefits

[@CoachMac]

Plenty of Wing T ideas in new age offense, worth looking at. Thanks

[@FrankTichenor-vj8bh]

Offense;

[@FrankTichenor-r7h8013psTif]

Religion before school;

[@deetrain5890]

My observation after listening to thus guy talk wing--r and 5-2 is that he is young. Wing t is a 4 back offense and you not winning a title in TX with the slot t. 52 is 34 and 50 guy. Nobody runs defense with 5 down linemen.

[@CoachMac]

If 48 is young I appreciate the compliment

[@willyumsac7585]

They’re are colleges that run it a tone , Army’s gotta be the most

[@CoachMac]

Not sure it is traditional Wing T but it is fun to watch

[@FrankTichenor-vj8bh]

State of the obvious; injury

[@CoachMac]

We carry a single wing package for emergency purposes!!!!

[@franktichenor-qj8eo]

;grab bigbird.

[@andrewmell9872]

NO TRUE WING T TEAMS RUN OPTION PLAYS!!!

[@KalimYEl]

I would!

[@anthonyarinaga9086]

The Belly Series has quite a few Option or Pseudo Option plays

[@empiremarketing918]

Wrong Belly Option and counter option off the 38 pitch and 41 inside counter. Run it with the 2 back

[@74coachtc]

Great offense for High School! the group that invented this offense were ingenious! Has answers for everything a defense can do and does not require great players - but if you have great players you're even better suited! You can add a passing game fit you're likes.

[@jfktheloop27]

Also very malleable. Around here we play strictly run-oriented wing-t teams, shotgun wing-t teams with spread formations, teams like us that have a mix of wing and spread concepts, and even teams that have somehow incorporated the pistol into their wing-t playbook.

[@coachsheffer6166]

Coach, That's exactly how I would block the Trap, haha Love you video coach, appreciate the Wing-T love

[@coachsheffer6166]

About the Waggle, most coaches do pull the guards to the waggle, but some do what you said and leave it as a naked action and have the guards go away. Game plan, if we think the defense is going to read guards we will naked boot it.

[@adaml3042]

You could also pull the linemen the other way and make waggle a key breaker too.