Why SEGA Wont Port Sonic Unleashed to PC

[@JaydenXV]

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[@supermariof0521]

11/18/2008? That was the same day as Mickey Mouse's 80th anniversary.............not sure why I brought that up, just thought that was cool.

[@thesamuraispirit7686]

I hope they port Sonic Colors, Heroes and Unleashed to pc. Ive never played heroes or colors. I heard colors was good. And i hope they remake Sonic adventure 1 and 2. Unleashed would definitly be one of those games that would benefit greatly from a port to PC

[@supermariof0521]

@@thesamuraispirit7686 Personally I think "Sonic Colors" should be given a full blown quality of life remaster.

[@mfadillah4849]

@@supermariof0521 ive been played sonic unleashed back then in PS3

[@JaydenXV]

@Heartless Emo yes

[@ivythay4259]

"Critical reception was poor" Sega: *ports Lost World to PC, anyway*

[@ariel78_]

Also 3D blast and Forces

[@thesamuraispirit7686]

Well i like lost world but im surprised they did that too

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

Lost World is overhated.

[@rafaeltrindadelau]

​@@ariel78_ Forces was a simultaneous launch, so it doesn't count. Also 3D Blast is part of the Sega Mega Drive and Genesis Classics. As for why it is there, I don't have the slightest clue.

[@ariel78_]

@@rafaeltrindadelau 3d blast is still available as a standalone steam game

[@k2x598]

Its sad how this game wasn't liked before, I loved this game since release, both werehog and normal sonic

[@HeavyRaiden]

Same, people who hated it apparently now love it lol.

[@unknownmg7470]

@@HeavyRaiden For reals

[@Frostbytee]

I was 5 when it came out and always liked it only recently did I find out about the hate

[@themexican8720]

I’ve always loved it, but I gotta admit it’s pretty mediocre. The Werehog really brings it down, despite my enjoyment of it.

[@Coyote_Bongwater]

@@themexican8720 I love the werehog but I see what you mean, sometimes it can drag on. you need to get very good and be like a speedrunner to make it much funner and imo -almost- match the day stages in fun.

[@LateNightHalo]

I’d kill for a Sonic Unleashed port for PC. -controller of choice -60-144 FPS -better draw distance and visuals -and of course, mods

[@Sonicfan2117]

@Late Night Gaming I didn’t know you liked Sonic you always talk about Halo on your channel

[@Omelander]

The game can run at 60 so that would be easy

[@LateNightHalo]

@@Omelander only on the ps3 version though which has lower quality shadows, color grading and particles whereas the Xbox 360 version was 30 FPS but with better visuals

[@triiodide7762]

@@LateNightHalo yeah and I hope if this happens they find a way to make the visuals even better because sonic unleashed looks like it came out in like 2018 when it came out in 2008. It's insane. And computers could run it at 144fps pretty well as long as it's decent enough.

[@greybo123]

I'm part of the minority that LOVES the Werehog stages. Custom Werehog levels would be so amazing to see

[@SuperNardful]

Crazy to think it took two console generations to fully realize Unleashed’s potential.. makes me concerned about the Boost formula’s sustainability from a development standpoint

[@jaxonrobertl1494]

True

[@Sonic6293]

My largest issue with the Boost formula is that they never really let it stand on its own. Unleashed has the Werehog style game play as an alternative, Generations and Forces have Classic Sonic gameplay, with Forces also having the Avatar gameplay. Colors comes closest, but has a lot of 2D sections.

[@السراقالمجهول]

@@Sonic6293 adventure have 5 different playstyles beside the main one and I dont see you complain

[@ItzMisterBlitzer]

@@Sonic6293 What about the Rush games?

[@alfo2804]

@@Sonic6293 Colours Wii is just a 2D game with 3D sections, and even its 2D gameplay and level design never comes close to being as good as any of the DS boost games. Boost works great in 3D, but it's so time consuming to create a 3D Boost level that most of the time the designers have to resort to an abundance of 2D sections and a sparse amount of mostly linear 3D sections with few branching paths. I think the Boost formula needs to stay in 2D, but go back to the level design of Sonic Rush, Rush Adventure and Colours DS. It's just way more sustainable and easier to produce that way. Then for Sonic's 3D ventures, he needs to slow down, having his speed come closer to it was in Adventure. Maybe there could even be a lore reason why he slows down - what if Dr. Eggman hits Sonic with a weapon that permanently makes him weaker? Then the story could address how Sonic is adjusting to his weakened state, and by the end of the game he proves that he's still a force to be reckoned with, even though he's not as fast or strong as he used to be.

[@mlpfimguy]

Porting this to pc would literally be game changing. Not counting the resolution increase, the removal of the framerate cap and perhaps the inclusion of the original high res textures as seen in the 360 beta disk. Speaking of which, imagine the possibilities if people found a way to reenable that debug mode that was present in the beta disks, that would be super sick! The best thing though, would be the possibility of custom levels for both the day and night gameplay styles. Since the game shares the same engine as generations, it probably wouldnt be much more difficult to make it compatible for this game also.

[@SadScorpion956]

Literally, Endless Possibilities!

[@horserhimself8222]

Original high-res textures in the Xbox 360 beta disk?

[@chaosspider5765]

@@SadScorpion956 THE POSSIBILITIES ARE NEVER ENDING

[@MdSolehin]

@@chaosspider5765 I SEE IT!!!!! I AEE IT!!!

[@optiTHOMAS]

You could say the possibilities are...endless? 😆😅👍🏻

[@matthewpelli]

Sonic Unleashed is one of the best Sonic games. Werehog is not as bad as everyone makes it seem. In fact, I'd say its mostly fun.

[@TheJadeFist]

I actually kinda like the Nighttime stages more than the daytime, some of the day time ones had those typical cheap deaths and controls not always co-operating.

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

Yeah but the sun and moon medals are the worst part of the game

[@drakon0873]

@@Nicu-vy3gm I think they should not be mandatory but they encourage exploration wayyy better than the red rings.

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

@@drakon0873 well you expect me to explore a day level no

[@artistanthony1007]

Did you know he is actually capable of being fast? I have a record video showing that I went up the Clock Tower without getting hit and stopping.

[@chibie3384]

I would rather have an Unleashed port over a new Sonic game

[@giancarlosd]

If Sonic Rift came out, and it's good, you'll regret saying that.

[@chibie3384]

Unleashed is still my favorite game

[@nottoofast]

@@giancarlosd I don't think Sonic rift is real

[@am_goose]

rather not take the risk of getting a bad game

[@thelookingcat]

Werehog

[@GenerationZ313]

It would be hilarious if they announced the game is getting a PC port then when it's available it turns out its actually the PS2/Wii version.

[@thegamesquad1310]

Well IDK if i'd be happy or sad because i completed the HD version my X360 But hd on pc would be better

[@Ghostlostit6712]

What if we got the ps3/xbox 360 version and the ps2/wii version

[@DarkHeartTheEmo]

I mix of both versions would be amazing, have the same progression that the PS2/Wii version have,but the gameplay especially the boost form PS3/X360, that would be the perfecet Sonic Unleashed, you want to go fast in the day time stages but you can't because you would miss medals that you need to progress in the game the PS2/Wii version that isn't need it, they have medals as well but they are use to unlock other rooms that can give the ability to have more lives and extra content like art work and thing like that, so progress like PS2/Wii but play it like PS3/X360.

[@GenerationZ313]

@@DarkHeartTheEmo if ghostbusters the video game is anything to go by they would likely use the hd version.

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

That version it still good tho

[@rabburtt1841]

SEGA: "Sonic Unleashed is not coming to PC anytime soon." The Sonic Generations modding community: "Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@RedMarcus14]

Exactly

[@MegaManNeo]

*Except for cutscnes

[@incredibil45]

Also except the werehog crap so its better actually

[@break-beat-sonic]

@@incredibil45 "Crap"

[@ramsle00]

@@break-beat-sonic personally i feel like if they modernized the controls (and definitely some touchups to the level design) they could really make the werehog portions pop

[@backslash_bks]

Why does the sonic unleashed logo flash on screen every now and then?

[@JaydenXV]

I literally have no idea why that happened with recording but I didn't think it was too big of a deal lol

[@HeavyRaiden]

*subliminal messages*

[@Blurro]

@@HeavyRaiden lol

[@HypaBox]

XD

[@iamdimsum3762]

They should realize that the fans matter most because they literally power the franchise!! Screw the critics! Look at how IGN plays Sonic Unleashed; who keeps mashing the boost button? Or slow down at a huge gap?

[@serthimus2340]

Dont mention that review ever again

[@infern24]

don't forget when ign said sonic was never good and they ended up not getting mania review copies as payback.

[@hyperwerefox3542]

I know, it's fucking laughable!

[@professionalfangster1510]

They do. They have a playlist on the official StH youtube channel specifically for fans. I think they just don't want to upset fans.

[@notdemomantf2294]

People for some reason still take journalists seriously after The Cuphead Incident.

[@SuperSonic68]

Day 1: Game comes out One hour later: Modders release a mod to put the Homing Attack button onto the jump button *where it belongs.*

[@thealandude9146]

Haah, definitely seeing that happening

[@MohammedNasim945]

Or remove the battle music that plays during werehog sections which interrupted the act theme.

[@JaydenXV]

Oh wow cool to see you comment! I remember your Sonic live action video when I was younger!

[@radzdahound3099]

No joke, there’s a parameter just sitting in an .xml file in Unleashed called “IsXButtonHoming” that’s set to “true”. If you just change that to “false” the homing attack goes to the A button instead! We wouldn’t even have to do any hex editing or anything; just that simple text edit. So yeah- probably *less* than an hour

[@GordieKat]

@@radzdahound3099 Are you serious? Why isn't it a toggleable option then?

[@PikachuGamerSMT]

''the first boost game atleast in 3d'' sonic heroes special stage:you forgot meee

[@ToonyTails]

We don’t talk about that

[@lpfan4491]

If we count that, we might as well count Sonic R because Amy has a boost there.

[@Medachod]

@@lpfan4491 That's a spin-off game, though. Chronologically, the boost concept even predates that game a bit if you wish to go even more technical. Sonic Heroes is the first main series game to incorporate it.

[@lpfan4491]

@@Medachod What?

[@JotaroKujo-gw6ng]

Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure: are we a joke to you?

[@ShadowedEyedClan]

Sega: We will not port Unleash to PC Generation Modders: No worries we will just change one of your games that IS on PC

[@craftygamerones9494]

It’s still not a replacement.

[@TripleJump]

@@craftygamerones9494 Agreed. No boss fights and they never got around to recreating the Werehog levels for Classic Sonic.

[@DarkDyllon]

@@TripleJump Don't think the werehog levels can realistically be recreated in Generations. We're talking about an entirely different playstyle, they have to port in the werehog from Unleashed (which they have to make from scratch as Unleashed never had a PC port, not even 1 that crashes every 5 minutes because of compatibility issues) and then make it work in Generations.

[@FlowPlex]

the only way it'll actually be playable on PC is to use an emulator, or to hope someone makes a fangame replicating Unleashed for PC.

[@drain7632]

@Flow Plex I think emulators will be a more viable option. Though the game is sorta playable right now on RPCS3 if you have a really good CPU.

[@TurtleWaveZZZ]

Sonic Unleashed is so under appreciated, it was the last main series sonic game to have more fun with the story before the newer direction took the writing in a more simple and saturday morning style. While it looks like we may be getting a change in the main series coming soon, I feel like this game shouldn’t be forgotten because of whatever they may do.

[@derpydino17]

I'd the Black Knight was the last sonic game with a good story.

[@jorgeserrano9834]

Hedgehog engine is just a lighting engine not a game engine. Forces was based off of the lost word engine which is why the boost was weird.

[@oknerd7431]

Makes sense considering how the game was developing during the release of lw

[@Pastel_TJ]

I think the Hedgehog Engine is more used to process graphics overall If I remember correctly. I know it works by loading and unloading stage chunks after the game code sends it a request to do so, that's why modern Sonic games don't let you turn the camera back and feature a lot of spots you can't backtrack from such as jump ramps, it's because after you pass that ramp, the game unloads that part of the level and loads up the next one. That's why in Generation if you skip certain set pieces the graphics in the next chunk don't show up, but the the collision is still there. Sorry if that was too wordy or if I came off as trying to one-up you, I just like talking about this stuff and I mean no offense!

[@IceisNice_FollowingChrist]

@@Pastel_TJ don't worry I understood every single word you said!

[@evdestroy5304]

Hedgehog engine 2 is probably not an issue. The Hedgehog engine is only a graphics engine (and its sequel).

[@LLotad]

@@mattiasneidenstrom generations port was made 9 years ago they still could lose the source code for it.

[@1earedwolf]

@@LLotad I don't think you realise how hard it is to just lose the source code to an entire game engine, let alone an entire game

[@tidjane2001]

@@LLotad Unlikely

[@davidfodre1375]

@@1earedwolf It happens all the time actually, people are careless

[@framedthunder6436]

@@LLotad losing 3 source codes would be insane

[@maniacaal]

They're worried about the modding beasts they'd unleash by giving us this..

[@HypaBox]

They would be "unleashed" like Sonic. heh

[@chaoschannel3428]

*Someone send this to Premydaremy...*

[@NoNamex1412]

He would scream

[@genricjohn]

Yes please

[@ikagura]

He's a bad fan

[@genricjohn]

@@ikagura What do you mean by bad fan?

[@Tide2703]

@@tommurchuis5464 premy is one of the main reasons people got so vocal about liking 06

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

"Unleashed gave us the boost formula" Sonic Rush: am I a joke to you?

[@JaydenXV]

On screen it shows "in 3D at least"

[@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE]

@@JaydenXV I was too focused on the actual on-screen action lmao

[@inkchariot6147]

Imagine the mods, especially for the Werehog.

[@TheJadeFist]

I believe you misspelled Knuckles.

[@purrgiri9862]

i believe you misspelled kratos

[@JarvisJarvis]

Dante?

[@purrgiri9862]

wait a minute how about ghost rider with his chain

[@raDIO6931]

@@JarvisJarvis Vergil

[@jimbobiscool1256]

I'm blaming IGN if we don't get a remaster, but to be honest though IGN as a whole needs a remaster to fix the company

[@horserhimself8222]

Or a Goddamn remake.

[@BICHUoHuck]

ngl its kinda sad to think of saga making a good game and everyone hating on it cuz of 06 and taking taking down

[@littleguystar]

tbh Sega shouldn't port Unleashed It deserves a remaster

[@crystalartz5090]

Bruh You're a fucking genius

[@BreadMine]

HUH?! YOURE A GENIUS

[@wavy03]

This November it's going to be THIRTEEN years old?! WOW, I thought it was still nine or eight lol.

[@nvsseann]

5:56 PTSD flashbacks to planet wisp

[@JaydenXV]

That's a big one I had in mind, even rooftop run in gens has moments like that.

[@snootyink809]

Thank you for making this video! Sonic Unleashed is my favourite game of all time and I've always wished for a PC version. I am glad that you shed more light on this game and the possibility of a PC port with great research and information that was summed up really well in a pretty short amount of time. I am looking forward to more videos like this from you! Best of luck!

[@JaydenXV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fuzzie6299]

You wanna know the philosophy I abide by? Fuck the critics. SEGA should just listen to the people who are actual fans of the series. Not fucking IGN, GameInformer, etc.

[@fat-hat]

I honestly just want to play the Werehog levels at higher framerates. I don't care what other people say, they were a fun addition to the game, in my opinion.

[@LLotad]

holy shit i never even thought about the werehog levels at a high framerate thats actually a really good point

[@LLotad]

Everytime i think unleashed with a higher framerate i think the day levels

[@fat-hat]

@@LLotad Yeah, the daytime levels are the ones getting frequently mentioned. It's probably due to the unleashed project, for being a thing.

[@thephantombooger]

The werehog levels have garbage frame rate. I've tried playing it on PS3, it's absolutely horrendous, made me shut off the whole console. It's sad cause I actually like the beat em' up genre, and seeing it mixed with Sonic is amazing.

[@fat-hat]

@@thephantombooger That's exactly why we need a PC port. The werehog in 60+ fps would be very enjoyable to play, as seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2LHipash8-pg68&t

[@italolxd3128]

I think it would be great if they somehow change the game so they have both the levels from Playstation 3/Xbox 360 and from Playstation 2/ Wii. For the people that don't know, Sonic Unleashed has basically two versions with the same story but many differences. The hub world in the version for the weaker consoles are only dialogues and without runing around a small area. Also all levels are completely different. The problem is that the older levels would require to be remaked. Very unlikely yet very epic.

[@69metersbelow25]

Which one was the weaker console?

[@Mr_Gamer-Random]

@@69metersbelow25 the weaker consoles were the Nintendo Wii and the PS2

[@italolxd3128]

@@69metersbelow25 Wii and Playstation 2.

[@lpfan4491]

Unwiished needs the love.

[@TripleJump]

I think about this all the time because UnWiished is my favourite game of all time. It'd be called Sonic Unleashed: Night & Day, representing the distinction between both Sonic vs The Werehog as well as between Unleashed vs UnWiished. Every hub world has an Entrance Stage (for the HD levels) and a Sacred Shrine (for the Wii levels), and the player can beat either version's level to progress through the story. If you want to play HD Apotos but also play Wii Holaska, that's totally an option. I have other ideas because I've been overthinking this: (-modern graphics for Wii levels, -Nokia levels earned for 100% completion, -new Wii levels for Savanna Citadel & Empire City, -the option to play HD Eggmanland in sections or at once, -the option to only play day stages which would replace night levels with Wii levels, -Wii's genius upgradable life system -playable characters, -an absurd amounts of options of settings -and so much more) ...but I'd be beyond satisfied if they just made UnWiished high definition and made Unleashed HD less choppy. If they did that, I'd buy it day 1.

[@Akispark]

This is an odd video. You seem to not know nor understand how game development works. Of course an older game engine can be adapted to work on pc using APIs that work on both on console and PC such as DirectX or Vulkan. What really makes porting a challenge is the difference in hardware. The PS3 and 360 were a nightmare to develop for and any script that they ran had to be made to specifically run on that platform alone. That process could take anywhere from 1 to 3 years. Also Persona has nothing to do with Sega. Like at all.

[@happythumbsgaming8606]

Today for anyone who likes legos today is Ninjago 10th Anniversary.

[@grotto185]

Oh shoot! I forgot about that!

[@ultrasphoenix]

0:40 I’m gonna be honest with you there, I personally liked the Werehog 😅, I loved the night time stages, I still love the day time more but in my opinion I like night time more because i love beating things up lol, plus I love myself a good challenge and I feel the werehog provides that, and the dope animation attacks he has when fighting the dark gaia monsters are amazing, especially when he fought the Phoenix, that shit was amazing, I feel Unleashed had an adventure kind of vibe with that world map thing, going to different hub worlds as well, day time sonic wasn’t really exploring, just boosting, but still fun, meanwhile the Werehog is slower and it feels more like an adventure then cuz you can find more secrets, you can take your time on the stages, explore around, with day time sonic, you’re just boosting through it all and can’t just accept the beauty, like In rooftop run, that view from the rails when going down is probs the only view you get, and to think that the level designers bust they’re asses off just to get boosted through by Sonic, now the night time stages, it was good for Werehog sonic, and im happy you can see all the nice views and effort put in those stages, yes the day time stages have effort put into them to, but I like the night better in terms on level design to lol, also don’t forget jungle joyride which in Adabat, that sunset view in the background of the stage is to sexy, but yeah, I love unleashed, it’s my 2nd favorite sonic game

[@Temzy]

Sonic Unleashed will always be the best Sonic game for me. Unless the 30th anniversary game can match it in quality, no other Sonic game can match it.

[@hyperwerefox3542]

What they need to do is to make a sequel to unleashed instead.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@hyperwerefox3542 Unleashed on Xbox Series X with FPS Boost, was pretty good. Don't think it really needs much of a remaster beyond that.

[@ShadicgunMan]

They literally made a whole new timeline, so remakes aren't a weird thought.

[@DXNAST]

I don't understand why people hate on werehog, I really enjoyed it.

[@DXNAST]

Thank you for liking my comment.

[@flowrking655]

So does anyone else see these sonic unleashed subliminal messages popping in and out 🧑🏾‍🦲

[@jlopez240gaming7]

The one sonic game, that desperately needs to come to PC. I would kill for a PC port of this. Easily still my favorite sonic game throughout the whole series.

[@magolord2820]

I would also love that they bring humans back, they had such a charm in unleashed, it's a shame that never used these kind of designs again...

[@feiwong3634]

Unleashed is so underrated, it's easy one of my all time fav Sonic games, and I've been playing since the first one on Mega Drive.

[@ZEK-ROM]

Man I still love this games music. I played it on the Wii and still love it. Also please port Jet Set Radio Future to something. :c

[@dshaynietheawesome]

I garentee I would buy it in an instant no joke this game was sonic team at passionate and maximum effort

[@anishsankar8725]

2:29 Sonic Unleashed jumpscare

[@Bluerush1992]

Sonic Colors has a higher change of being ported than Unleashed sadly

[@JaydenXV]

Yep... also How’ve you been?

[@douglanmar]

2:13 “People love this game for the level design” *proceeds to die by missing a jump on a platform*

[@queencancerous5332]

After the success of P4G on PC Sega does want to port more games to PC, hopefully this is one of them.

[@sunne7064]

I think it was Atlus the one who said that.

[@TortoiseMaximus]

@@sunne7064 Atlus is a subsidiary of Sega

[@sunne7064]

@@TortoiseMaximus yeah, but atlus said they wanted to port more games to pc, not sega.

[@martin0499]

@@sunne7064 sega said it, and they've brought yakuza 3/4/5/6/7 on steam recently so more sonic pc ports are definitely happening

[@sunne7064]

@@martin0499 yeah, im sure more sonic ports are now releasing, sonic colors is happening, but didn’t they lose the source code for unleashed? I guess that they would need to remake it on something like the Generations engine or maybe if a miracle happens they get the source code again.

[@Chrims27]

I would prefer a Sonic 2006 remaster (fix the gameplay) more than a port because that way they could unleash Sonic 2006 true potential

[@MegaManNeo]

Unleashed is actually one of the reasons for me to keep my PS3. Sure the Unleashed Project Mod is there for Generations but I struggle getting the letter to run properly on Windows 10 these days and even then it still lacks those gorgeous cutscenes and the story. What I'd love to see is a remixed version done by SEGA for both consoles and PC with potential new day time stages and the length of night stages being trimmed down so it doesn't feel like you are playing the hedgehog for like 5 minutes while the werehog takes up like 45.

[@orangeslash1667]

Unleashed on Xbox Series X with FPS Boost, was pretty good. Don't think it really needs much of a remaster beyond that.

[@SuperSonicMaster17]

It would be pretty cool see Unleashed on PC. Maybe Adabat could run on 60fps without looking like a slideshow and don't you dare tell me that *Oh, Adabat runs smoothly on Xbox Series X* No, like on PC smooth and frame rate.

[@SuperSonicMaster17]

You are henceforth hacked and rickrolled.

[@TheJadeFist]

Personally I want a PC/ remaster of all the 3d games. Shadow and Heroes (I know there was PC version of Heroes, but something a bit more modern and available), and Colours. Colours emulated in dolphin and rendered in 1080p is gorgeous even without updated textures. Even 2006, I'd like to see a remaster or rerelease.

[@baddworld]

Dreams

[@archovicvideos]

Unleashed is one of my favourite games ever, I enjoyed every aspect of the game, Day and Night. I would really love for the game to get the respect it deserves and a port would be pretty good in doing that.

[@goncalo92]

they should remaster the sonic unleashed ps2 version in my opinion is the best version

[@dogryme6]

Sometimes for a single frame in the video, a picture of another youtube video for the Sonic Unleashed song "Gaia Gate" extended flashes on screen.

[@69metersbelow25]

If they make a sequel it will be on pc.

[@DASH596]

Well, the sequel was kinda Sonic Colors, and that hasn't seen a PC port yet

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

@@DASH596 you cant just port a wii game to other consoles they whould have to make the game from scratch, just play it with dolphin

[@DASH596]

@@Nicu-vy3gm The same could be said for a Wii U game, like Lost World, and that was ported to PC If you talking about the wii mote movement, you can also play Sonic Colors with other controllers that aren't sensor like. But again, the original post was about the sequel to unleashed, which again, in a way was Colors.

[@davidfodre1375]

@@DASH596 That one can be easily emulated on PC at 60fps with custom high res textures, so I don't think it's a big deal.

[@69metersbelow25]

@@DASH596 I actually only played sonic colors on the DS.And I loved it.Gotta play the wii version

[@FrancisL4D]

Fun Fact! Sonic Unleashed has the most detailed sonic model to date.

[@icee1683]

tbh that first point really doesn't justify. Lost World got mixed reception yet still was ported to pc.

[@darealepic]

They probably ported it to pc cuz the Wii U was a failure

[@Azal827]

wait, who the fk doesnt like werehog stages? i thought they're pretty good, I also like the combats as well

[@ThyTrueNightmare]

Game dev here, the main issue when coming down to different engines is how they behave. a lot of stuff is simple, art assets, sounds, and animations tend to be fine but every engine treats things differently. Lighting and programming tend to normally be the big issues and what I mean by that is how light calculated, there is a lot of maths in creating lights which is why most new engines try to upgrade each time, with RTX becoming more mainstream as it will, older levels ported to a new engine would have to use the new lighting math so levels might look different or will need to be adjusted to look like they did before with the new engine. Code tends to be quite flexible if it was created right but each engine can have its own definition, eg. in Unity an object in a scene is called a "GameObject", in Unreal its called an "Actor" or "AActor" in C++

[@horodoomwolf]

I guess that explains why SADX was a bad port in terms of graphics and lightning (specially lightning)

[@ThyTrueNightmare]

@@horodoomwolf good chance, even changing different versions of unreal engine can cause a huge issue but this is normally programming side

[@baylordiamond8819]

@@horodoomwolf I wouldn’t call sadx bad it’s actually pretty impressive for a Dreamcast port. And it tried to hide the lighting problems by having more advanced texture work. I’d recommend it over the Dreamcast version if someone didn’t have a gaming pc to mod it with just because of the extra content, 60 FPS, and skipable cutscenes being worth the graphics downgrade.

[@maoraharon21]

I fucking hate sega for not porting the game already.

[@freeckycakeOG]

Reason for porting it: WOOOOOH!

[@ignaciopizarro97]

FEELIN' GOOD

[@السراقالمجهول]

the problem is that sonic isnt a normal platformer he is about speed and speed have multiple definitions and can be executed differently

[@Matthasnocuts]

Pain.

[@Zarkator]

I think they won't port unleashed to pc because they know that when modders get their hands on it, we won't ever have a need for Sega's amateur game design and development toolsets

[@sebastianbenavidesmorales2274]

porting lost world to pc was a waste, unleashed is THE game with the most potential, they could easily fix some issues like the framerate and maybe tweak the werehog moveset a bit, fans really want this game!

[@lpfan4491]

Porting any game in the series to PC is not a waste.

[@Sonic171K]

Lost World as a game is a waste.

[@FROEZOEN]

Ight. I love Sonic Unleashed as much as the next guy but calling the story "Stunning, beautiful, and pixar like" is a huuuuuuuuuge stretch beyond the opening cutscene.

[@Coolish_Eli]

7:50 Me who keeps our ps3 still being able to play it. InTeReStInG

[@JayAnimationz]

lol me too my xbox 360 is still with me because of sonic unleashed

[@Coolish_Eli]

@@JayAnimationz Well I keep mine since we dont have any other console we'll use as much like a *cough* wii u *cough*

[@iCABALi]

Sonic Unleashed is the second biggest glaring omission of SEGA games on PC for me behind Skies of Arcadia.

[@vincere_]

If the camera is still horrendous it would be a major turn-off, as well as the slog of the werehog stages.

[@TheGameCreator13]

Modding (👁ω👁)

[@optiTHOMAS]

Bro, sonic unleashed was one of my favorite sonic games! The fantastic speed and story, beautiful music and graphics, glorious main theme from bowling for soup, and amazing detail, levels, locations, and hub worlds made it a favorite of mine! I remember always replaying the levels and mastering them to get S tiers on them! 😁👍🏻Such a great game! Wish it would come to pc! Good stuff, man! 😁😅👌🏻

[@chibie3384]

Unleashed the best game and SEGA being stingy again

[@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount]

Here’s an unpopular opinion: I bought the game on release specifically to play the Werehog missions. I’d already had my fix of 3D day time Sonic with 06, Heroes and the Adventure series.

[@ArpeggioPegasusMusic]

I think they just lost the source code to it.

[@DavidRamirez-xh3cj]

Imagine sonic unleashed with ray tracing? Like you playing apotos. Hub and you just put it and shadows

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

SEGA is too scared to come back to games with actual stories.

[@Dres2000]

What’s worse is that this game destroyed Their budget. Going all out on this one. Sadly, some developers left SEGA and went into Nintendo. Which explains the Nintendo game’s glorious visuals.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

IGNs review isn’t actually fair, because they didn’t actually finish the game. Plus IGN has has this whole deal of “3D sonic was never good” and have even reviewed Mania well, which is a 2D sonic game.

[@MonoDree]

imagine playing the werehog levels as Knuckles with better combat and no combat music disrupting the level music as a mod. Sonic unleashed on pc would be amazing

[@Leonard_Wolf_2056]

Tl:Dr low score, the game is too big, too little would buy it, it would take a long time and lot of money to port it. Btw This is the message from the future. Origins came and its basically confirmed that Sega does not care, or Atleast doesn't care that much.

[@Galeeven]

ngl sonic forces really feels like if sega tried to make a game meant for game journalists (explanation: too short, easy af, character customization (ON A SONIC GAME))

[@Zylo82]

As much as I liked unleashed the only thing I dread is those damn qte's. Love playing it and listening to the sound track but qte's suck.

[@SilverStormShadow]

I personally don't mind playing Unleashed on 360/PS3. The main reason I want Unleashed on PC is for Mods. Imagine if Unleashed got the same modding support as Generations has or Frontiers is getting.

[@KotCR]

Both Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Heroes are glaring omissions from Sega's Steam Library. Neither is a bad game. Both definitely have their flaws, but they are also both worth a play to any Sonic fan, and even the platformer audience in general. Yeah, there's plenty of people that dislike either game, but rare are the people that hate either of them. Even their biggest critics tend to say they are mediocre at worst. I think they'd both sell just fine so long as the price point was correct, and the coding quality of the port was decent. Get them running at smooth 60fps with minimal gameplay bugs and they'd do just fine. Port over Sonic Colors while they are at it, which is a fan favourite. The rest of the Sonic library missing from Steam is just fine, but those three had enough going for them to deserve a good PC port. So weird that Lost World got it's port, when I feel it is generally less favoured than those other three. I guess though it was a case of preserving the title in a form that would stick around, since it's not like the Wii U had a wide user base.

[@jimbobiscool1256]

not to spoil the fun or anything but i honestly feel like sega's going to just skip this, with colours there were quite a bit of leaks and points to prove it could be getting remastered, unleashed we haven't seen much yet aye, i'd love a pc remaster of this game, it's weird this game wasn't released on pc in the first place back in 2008, did sega and sonic seriously not notice the technical issues and see how much better it could look on pc

[@prodigy-hu6dy]

To say Sonic Unleashed needs a PC port for the optimization is an understatement, the visual fidelity of Unleashed is actually terrible. The primary culprit is the low resolution which is a sub-standard non-native 880x720p, which means the game doesn’t run in HD. The image is blurry and undefined on top of the boost triggering a post-processing effect that smears the background assets. Even with the high polygon count of the enemies, the real-time fur of the Werehog and probably the most diverse and rich art direction, the low resolution and terrible frame rates really hold back all of the visual potential Unleashed has. It runs on a new engine with a Pixar look that is far more advanced than Sonic 06 in terms of rendering, but is 50/50 overall in terms of visuals. Sonic Generations PC and Forces PC both blow Unleashed out of the water in terms of visual fidelity. The Unleashed Project is an example of how good a PC release of unleashed could be, with the support of native 4K 60fps and the tightened up controls. In spite of the really subpar graphics on Unleashed, I loved the game growing up, even the Werehog, and I’m glad so many other people are also pushing for Sega to release an enhanced port of this game.

[@PanicB]

Fun fact: The ign sonic unleahed review on youtube the reviewer bearly bosted and didn't even finish the game

[@ToastyMann]

Unleashed was a fantastic game with a massive budget (the CGI cutscenes and promos, high tier voice work, and visuals that the current gen consoles couldn't handle at the time hence the frame drops), and I really don't want to see this game go to waste. It's been rotting on Xbox's backwards compatibility list for the longest time, and while it works great on a Series X, keep in mind that the new consoles are being scalped at an alarming rate, so it's not exactly easy to get a Series X right now. A remaster would be amazing for a game like Unleashed, especially with how promising Sonic Colors Ultimate is shaping up to be. I'd buy an Unleashed PC port in a heartbeat.

[@السراقالمجهول]

did you know that unleashed boost get faster the longer you are in boost and if you got interrupted you have to build your speed again thats why the game have a speed meter

[@lordadz1615]

You say reception is one of the reasons but look at lost world. Do u rlly thing it was met with positivity when it came out? Yet it's still on pc

[@MortonCammar]

Porting games from engine to engine is a pain, but for a large company like Sega it shouldn't be a problem. Though compatibility is something to think about, it really does depend on how similar hedgehog engine 1 is to 2. Is the second engine just an improvement of the first (using the 1st engine's source code then making configurations and building up from there) or is the second engine an engine built from the ground up.

[@unreadbread]

My personal favorite game of the entire series, both Wii and Xbox/PS versions.

[@buzztoaster]

This is not Pixar quality story telling chum! (Kissy Face Emoji)

[@auxy6858]

At least you can still but it on microsoft store, just picked up one of the new xboxes and was able to get the game.

[@DJ_Curlyhead]

So, they decided to port Lost World instead of this game because of its score?

[@Asterisk_OS]

Port "Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine" you cowards, You won't.

[@CreeperG3]

8:03 *Gets PS5 launch flashbacks*

[@ShadowS.R.]

Call me when Sonic Colors is also ported. Never got the chance to play it.

[@ManicMobius]

This game would be worth playing if it wasn't 70% slow ass beat 'em up stages.

[@ArthurLopes39]

Unleashed and the Sonic Storybook series games are my favorites from the modern era and it saddens me that they'll most likely never get a second shot or even the slightest recognition from SEGA nowadays.

[@khalfanthesansman7261]

I would rather have a sonic unleashed port instead of sonic origins

[@FlashBiduan]

At least we have generations becouse if we have generations we can mod anything this game is perfect