Why Shotguns Are Terrible For Home Defense!

[@CopperJacketTV]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[@PAIsIllegal]

What about ar shotgun uppers? The ati stock does hinder the release.

[@danielandrews7028]

Taurus snubnose loaded with 158 grain hardcast

[@kylen1922]

Great video as always keep em comeing.

[@robluc86]

Is this video your real opinion or a joke to get comments?

[@redfish-vg9dj]

Ok, this whole video is crap, even the whole thing about bird shot being practically useless at close range, really??? Have you SEEN what bird shot does to something at that 15ft range you kept talking about?!?!?!?

[@davek5027]

As a retired 28 year LEO for a very large Western sheriff’s department, if I know that my family or I are in imminent danger, the very first weapon I will retrieve is a 12-gauge pump shotgun loaded with buckshot. Nothing has the close range brutality and lethality of a shotgun.

[@JMane3000]

100 percent

[@crushglobalists8640]

I'd argue a sub machine gun matches the brutallity and lethality of a shotgun but sadly they're significantly harder to obtain. Were it not for these unconstitutional and inhumane laws surpressed SMG's would probably be the king when it came down to home defense.

[@blueduck9409]

Yep. Even if you get it in the leg or arm, youre likely to lose the limb.

[@nickyj3571]

Ive been trying to decide what load to use for in house. Idk if 00 buck will blow through brick

[@joeblow4566]

You are correct sir as Clint Smith says it removes body parts it's a fight stopper nothing better

[@toddk1377]

I disagree. A shotgun can be, is a, has been for years, a very effective tool for home protection. Recoil is not that bad, especially in semi autos and if using a double barrel, pump, ect, a good recoil pad along with reduced recoil ammo, recoil is not much. Can also use a 20 gauge if a 12 is too much. A shotgun doesn't need a lifetime of training to be effective with it. An hour here and there once a week or every few days, the user will be effective enough to protect themselves in their home. I haven't seen or heard of not one self defence case in response to a home invasion in which the shotgun failed. If so, please provide some sources. Sure a shotgun isn't for everybody, but can't the same be said about every firearm? Not to mention, a shotgun offers more versatility to the user that fits their criteria for their situation, more so than any pistol, AR-15, PCC, ect, ever could. As far as lethality goes, ain't nobody taking a load of buckshot to the chest and walking away or even making it to the next room unless they had armor on. I don't care what firearm a person prefers to have or use, but becoming familiar with it and knowing how to use it is personal responsibility that should be done as a responsible gun owner, seems like common sense to me. Lastly, Paul Harrell demonstrated why shotguns don't suck for home defense, and out of all the gun tubers on here that said otherwise, he was the only to prove so with demonstration, data, experience, and common sense knowledge.

[@sway696]

I don't think anyone is really disagreeing that the shotgun is king when it comes to blowing big hole in sh!t. It's more I think time's are changing and that there are so many alternatives that may better suit an individuals needs. 👍 bottom line is use what you are most proficient with. 😁

[@toddk1377]

@@sway696 Yeah, I think a video titled " why a shotgun may or may not be best for you" would be better. Everybody has preferences and some sort of limitations so having correct information is more beneficial.

[@sway696]

@@toddk1377 👍 take care my friend. May you and yours be blessed with health and happiness in the future.

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

@@sway696 well said...I have a 12GA..shotgun but honestly I don't want to use it for home defense it's like my last choice because of recoil...I prefer my Beretta 92FS 9mm it's accurate and I'm more proficient with IT

[@joshbowen2717]

One thing that really helped me manage 12 gauge recoil was learning to properly shoulder the gun, i shoot my AR a lot and i like to put the stock in my shoulder pocket a bit high up because it doesnt have hardly any recoil and it allows me to not have to bend my neck so far down. When i first shot my 12 gauge the same way it kicked the piss out of me and i wondered how you can manage the recoil, then i found youre supposed to put the stock on your peck muscle and once i started shouldering the gun on my peck instead of my shoulder the recoil became so much easier to absorb.

[@michaelwishon5848]

In a lot of cases it is a great choice. Within its limitations, a shotgun is the most powerful tool a civilian can get their hands on. Training is the key.

[@-o-The-Duke-o-]

a good example...... if you have neighbors within a hundred feet. A shotgun, weapon light and a pair of electronic ear pro and most are going to be good to go.

[@beargillium2369]

There are also plenty of reliable semi auto shotguns out now, no need to worry about short stroking.

[@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--]

Birdshot for apartments

[@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--]

@@-o-The-Duke-o- exactly that's what I'm running in my apartment with birdshot

[@franklegarda6510]

And the chances of a small army like at the end of the movie Scarface is unlikely

[@jumpersclerk9705]

A semi auto shotgun is a great choice at close range (in house), especially If you’re a bird hunter like me. It’s the firearm I’m most comfortable with and spend the most time with.

[@privateer4203]

As a former USMC guy, police officer and federal agent retired this fellow is wrong. Shotguns are a first choice and a 20 ga youth model shotgun with 18" bbl is a solid choice.

[@kylen1922]

My opinion a 20 gauge semi auto is a great home defense weapon sure makes a mess though.

[@kipdrippers]

Did you learn that the hard way?😬

[@ryanespinoza7297]

I would get a 12 gauge strictly due to ammo availability. I can always load a 12 lighter like a 20 and I'll probably be able to find the ammo I'm looking for. Plus I can load it with 3in 15 pellet 00buck at the range.

[@kylen1922]

@@ryanespinoza7297 ya I like the 20 less recoil and less flash. Extended tube Remington 1100 is great gives u 3 Xtra rounds and flollow is super quick. I use the same gun for pushing deer kinda duel purpose gun and I know it works when I need it. 12 is always there for backup if I need it.

[@cavalieroutdoors6036]

@@ryanespinoza7297 I dunno if you were paying attention during the last ammo crunch we literally just had, but I couldn't find 12 gauge anything on shelves or online. Though to be fair during that period I also could not find 20 GA either. I think the only thing I could reliably find was 40 S&W, and even that became rare as hen's teeth for a good while. So I guess what I'm saying is, pick your weapon(s), learn your weapon, and stack ammo *deep.* A gun with no bullets is just a club in disguise.

[@ryanespinoza7297]

@@cavalieroutdoors6036 I dunno if you are paying attention right now but I see all kinds of 12 GA buck and bird shot all over shelves now and maybe one choice of 20 GA. So making a decision on buying a gun now, I would choose what is widely available. You also must've not looked very hard for 12 GA, I found plenty of remington 00buck 15 pellet online for under a dollar a shot which was better than what I found in sporting stores in 2019. The best home defense firearm is the one closest to you.

[@nelsonporter8387]

Recoil? If you’re blasting an intruder in your home, you’ll not notice

[@teddysalad5986]

A good 12 gauge shotgun is a fantastic home defense firearm.

[@YellowHammer26]

Thanks for your take William. I think basically what people need to think about is whatever you choose for your self defense firearm you need to practice,practice,practice and practice some more so you know how to use it.👍👍

[@marshalllanier360]

Absolutely. Practice until loading it, shucking it, shouldering it,, aiming it, and firing it are just second nature.

[@mosulmedic7048]

For those that don't want to watch the video entirely, he's essentially saying shotguns suck if you don't know how to use them. This same logic applies to all guns 🤣

[@Abel-Alvarez]

Thanks, this guy is an embarrassment to the gun community.

[@ulflyng]

Next video: "Why Handguns Are Terrible For Homedefense" Any gun has downsides. Work around them

[@Jaemon4Eva]

I love my shotty but my wife and daughter are both under 130 lbs and 5 feet 3 inches. They can barely handle the 6+ lbs 40 inch pump shotgun with 00 buck . And their arms are shorter than mine and weaker so they short stroke the pump shotgun often. So I chose the 9mm pcc as the family gun for home defense and fun plinking as well as hunting. We each have our own pistols. I travel a lot for work at least one week per month out of state living out of hotels. So they home without me and I’m glad they have the pcc and their pistols

[@gmoney1592]

A shotgun may not be the best choice for home defense. However it’s nice to have one in the arsenal. There are a lot of different options for shells . I prefer 00 buck for home defense.

[@ksingleton101]

I hate having to carry a Shotgun while I'm Vacuuming my home, a handgun never leaves my side.

[@gmoney1592]

@@ksingleton101 that’s a good point just remember you can always mount it to the vacuum or get a good sling for carrying it around

[@robertsalyers1351]

I've trained more with the 12-Gauge shotgun than I have the AR-15...so I'm going to use whatever is comfortable and easy for me to use...So, I've decided to use the Mossberg Retrograde 12-Gauge with #1 or # 4 buckshot for my Home defense purposes

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

Rifle caliber SBR’s suck for home defense too. They’re insanely loud and have high muzzle flash. It will deafen and blind you far worse than a pistol or 16” barrel will. Pistol caliber carbine/SBR might be the all around best choice actually 🤔

[@jessesimmons4503]

I agree shortest 556 I would go is a 13.7 inch. 8 inch 9mm PDWS make great room to room defense.

[@joquin4618]

Suppressed SBR are not that bad but tho! However, I agree, Pcc are better for home Defense

[@toddk1377]

I have no issue whatever is in reach, but I won't hesitate to use whatever due to flash, sound, or length. If it launches a projectile(s) into the vitals to stop a threat, that's what I care about. Besides, if flash is a worry and losing night vision, keep the non aiming eye closed while firing, you still have night vision, the military has taught this for decades. When it comes to sounds, that's not an issue when the adrenaline is through the roof.

[@joquin4618]

@@toddk1377 auditory exclusion is real… but hearing damage will still occur when shooting a 5.56 out of a 10.5” barrel with a comp…. Out of 16” 556 or handgun in 9m is not THAT bad in doors…. Hopefully adrenaline kicks in so that the defender can benefit from fight or flight characteristics such as auditory exclusion.

[@toddk1377]

@@joquin4618 True. While a suppressed weapon with subsonics is safest on our hearing for indoor shooting, I don't have a PCC, so if hearing damage is the side affect, I'll take it over a gun shot wound, being butt raped, or something like that happening to my family. That's a decision I can live with.

[@robertstarecki3934]

I think its best option for countries where law forbids you to leave loaded gun or clips stored. Then shotgun you can load as you go.

[@Whendaddycooks]

As a shotgun owner I definitely agree with you that there are better options for home defense. But as a resident of the peoples republic of New York, I’m extremely limited in what I can own unless I’m willing to shell out over $2k to get a featureless rifle thanks to the SAFE Act. Smh. Can’t wait til my kids graduate from high school so we can get the heck out of dodge!

[@marshalllanier360]

Why wait? I'd get the hell out of that shithole ASAP. There are good schools all over the country.

[@chrisrobison6469]

Come on down here to Alabama my brother we always will welcome law biding citizens that want to and have their right to own a firearm

[@Whendaddycooks]

Me and the misses are counting down the days until we move out of here. We got family and Tennessee Georgia and Florida so the south is definitely calling us. 🇺🇸

[@leighkite1164]

"The Peoples Republic of New York"... bwahaha! That's over there in the "Somewhat Aligned States of America" right? 🤣

[@seventy2south886]

Instead of racking my shotgun to scare an intruder I'd rather cock the hammer on my Glock like they do in the movies 😆 Great video my man 👍🏻

[@ryandavis9794]

Exactly! The guy who sold Hollywood on cocking the Glock also preaches just scare em off by racking the shotgun

[@curteaton]

I just keep Alec Baldwin and SAA in in the garage.

[@uncleacid6973]

Glock makes something that isn't striker fire?

[@bryantfields2410]

@@uncleacid6973 he is being sarcastic

[@rodgerm5311]

If you ever had to fire a shotgun indoors inside a small area, your hearing goes out the window forever. This happened to me. Now I have severe tinnitus and need to wear hearing aids too. A shotgun is not the best option for home self defense for many many reasons.

[@toddk1377]

I'm sure there's more to it than that. Rifles are louder than shotguns and I've purposely shot both in my basement just to see how bad it was and I'm not deaf or have tinnitus, plus I've been to numerous rock concerts, drive a deuce and a half with no ear pro for years, and according to my last hearing test, I'm just below average on my left and at average on my right.

[@chien-shengtsai8626]

Yes, the hearing risk. Tell the invaders to wait until you cap your ears, or wear your hearing protection while sleeping.

[@superstallion97]

A chain saw has a psychological sound too it as well

[@rileyneufeld7001]

For a first choice I would agree for elderly/smaller people a standard 16" AR would be a good choice. A pistol is IMO not a good choice for a first time shooter either. Much harder to shoot than a long gun, going to likely take multiple shots on target to stop the threat too. Long guns are easier to point shoot, and #1 buckshot is one of the highest 1 shot man stoppers we can get. That said it ALL comes down to training. If you don't train with a pistol or a long gun both aren't going to do you any favors.

[@steamman9193]

I think the ar specially in 5.56 or .223 is a terrible defense gun it takes to long for the rounds bleed out design to effect a close quarter defensive engagement. For elderly or smaller frame people 410 or 20 ga is a much better option

[@rileyneufeld7001]

@@steamman9193 223 while small is still a rifle cartridge and inside of 100 yards is going to cause severe damage. It's low recoil is going to allow weaker people more shots on target, more quickly and more accurately. A 20 gauge is still a handful for lighter females and I've shot lightweight 20 gauges that recoiled just as bad as a 12 gauge. I would choose 223 over 410 in a heartbeat.

[@AnnoyoTribe]

I agree with all the myth busting you did. And while my shotgun isn't my #1 go to firearm for HD, I have no problem grabbing it if need be. Now my shotgun isn't the traditional configuration as I have a Kel-Tec KSG, but with Aguila mini shells I can get about 20 something shells loaded up. That takes care of capacity for me, but I agree with you that generally shotguns are slow to load. That's more of my fortify the castle gun where as I'd grab one of my handguns or ARs out of convenience and instinct. Good video tho man!

[@nutbastard]

The Aguila's are fantastic. One of these days I'll get around to buying the adapter for my 20" 88, pretty sure the tube will hold 15 or so.

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

pick up a ksg 25, it holds 41 mini shells!

[@samwagner31]

the flash blinding you is a moot point. you shouldn't be firing in the dark. you should have a bright light mounted on the rifle sufficient enough to clearly identify targets and weapons. also, if I'm clearing my house, I'm not doing it in the dark, I'm going to be turning lights on as I go.

[@alejandres26]

Love this channel! Keep moving forward brother enjoy your freedom in Nevada sir!

[@haroldrick]

that's what 410 is good for with #3 or 4 Buckshot or a 20 gauge Remington youth model 570

[@ChiefX07]

A simple revolver is more tactical and does the trick. I seen people grab a shotgun and tussle but never a revolver

[@WilliamMunnyIII]

A scarier sound than the bolt release or the racking of a shotgun is the snap of the safety being taken off.

[@sombra6153]

Yesterday, I was reminded that an ox goad, considered an inferior agricultural tool, was once used to great effect in an ancient skirmish. I don’t necessarily like to subscribe or to or bank on statistics and percentages in self defense, but rather people to effectively utilize whatever tools they have at hand. A shotgun is like any other firearm. It takes training to use successfully, but that goes for anything.

[@stewmeat9261]

i use one for home defense because Joe Biden said "get a shotgun"

[@chrislang5659]

I would just want the situation over as fast as it can be. Nine holes is better than one!

[@cda133]

Bird shot is probably the best option for self defense. It has the widest dispersal pattern and the least collateral damage. 00 buck or slugs will go through your walls and cause a lot of property damage and potentially hurt a fam member. If you are hit by birdshot you are still dead 95% of the time…

[@christopherrobin7776]

Try 04 buck. It has true stopping power and doesn't have the distance as much.

[@Abel-Alvarez]

And it doesn't penetrate walls which is a plus.

[@danoneill2846]

joe said all you need is to walk out your door & shoot 2 rounds in the air from your double barrel & all is well your also empty & locked up

[@shastaham7630]

I will add one comment... Birdshot can be a very effective man stopper at 5-7 yards. I caught the edge of a pattern of 12 gauge 7½ shot in my left knee while rabbit hunting in my teens. Believe me, at short ranges, birdshot is very effective - and painful!

[@DemonTimeAfterNine]

Diamonds in your iron sights wtf that's so cool the inner kid in me jumped in excitement

[@nitrocell9287]

So all the issues you mentioned can be fixed with shorter barrel muzzled device etc.

[@johnellis4129]

I can see your point but at 2am when I can't find my glasses I'll take a three inch wide pattern of fifteen pellets roughly the size of a 9mm per trigger pull versus my handgun with night sights. Back in 1978 a man came to our front door with a 38 spl intent on doing us harm. He was drunk and at the wrong house. Momma let both barrels from an Ithaca SxS 10ga (buckshot) through the door at him at about three feet from the muzzle. She missed him by a few inches but he ran so fast that he ran past his car and had to run back to it in order to get away. He didn't know that it was both barrels and he wasn't waiting for the "other barrel". My dad bought me my first shotgun that day. Every single person in both my direct and extended family knows how to use a shotgun. It's the obvious choice for any of us.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

It's good for holding a door way. But the idea it takes less skill to use than a rifle because "don't need to aim" is plain wrong, especially with a pump action. My family members can operate ARs but constantly mess up operating a Mossberg 500

[@WallabieMcDee]

I just pipe the shotgun pumping sound into the surround sound in the house as the red strobe lights flash and "Let the bodies hit the floor" plays

[@jdminn4]

If it's what you have, or what you are most comfortable with, it's a great choice. Sure as hell beats a pointy stick.

[@jeffsnider7842]

Who is this guy and what is wrong with his reasoning.

[@chucksmith8382]

Guess I'm a Fudd. Grew up with a shotguns and I have several around our rural home. Remington 870's with barrels cut to 20" and threaded for choke tubes (improved cyl.)...ghost ring sights...ext. magazine tubes...oversize safety...6-round leather ammo cuff laced to buttstock...2-3/4" 00 Buckshot. I set up a Remington 870 Youth 20 Guage the same way for my wife. Fighting rifles and handguns are also within easy access. Never hurts to be prepared for the unexpected for sure.

[@RR137G]

I would grab my KSG 10 time's out of 10 before I grabbed a pistol or rifle in a home defense situation.

[@RedLeader1430]

Mini buckshot gives you plenty of capacity for home defense 😉

[@KyleKalevra]

Better title: Why shotguns suck for people who have never shot a gun of any kind.

[@johnnybwrlr983]

You're right about a few things but wrong on so many more things. 1. they make smaller shotguns that work better for people that can't handle the recoil of the 12ga, like 20ga. 2. At 15 yards, blast radius from my mossberg 590a1 is only about 2-3 inches, not torso sized. at 100 yards it may be torso sized. at 50 yards, I can make a 3-5 inch hole with double aught buck. 3. most pistols only create a single wound channel and only stand a 20% chance of creating a fatal injury. a rifle may require 4-5 single shots to stop an attacker. but a shotgun gives you 9-12 9mm wound channels in a single shot, more likely stopping or fatality wounding your attacker. this gives the defender, with the shotgun, the absolute 1 shot stop, while also giving you the advantage of creating more damage in a single trigger pull, than any other weapon!

[@samsmithmotovlogs]

If all you have is a shotgun it is the best choice. If you are familiar and comfortable with your shotgun it is the best choice. If over penetration is a worry bird shot in a shotgun is the best choice. There are cases where it is not the best choice except for these.

[@tylr3669]

I have never understood this. 1) I'm not counting on a sound. Only idiots are depending on a sound. Why are we responding to obvious idiots? 2) Again, why are we responding to idiots. But the point stands that a 3" pie plate is much much larger than a what 1/4in projectile? I don't have to have the best aim to use it. 3) Ammo type is going to depend on what your property looks like and what you want to do. I live in an apartment, it is NOT acceptable to penetrate 3-15 sheetrock walls as a rifle or pistol would. I will stick with paul harrell and his heavy birdshot for power without over penetrating. Are you seriously saying bird shot WITHIN 30 ft (no more than 10 in my case) is going to be ineffective? Exactly what do you think you will be fighting for home defense? SWAT? A 3" pie of bird shot at 30FT is going to be devastating to damn near anything. Just the kinetic energy in that little area is going to be traumatizing. No, and I know you know this. Bird shot meant for 1 PELLET of that shot to take down a small bird, or turkey...wtv. 4) well if we are just talking idiots not knowing how to operate their tool, then that goes for anything with anyone. I watched someone load their 9mm to capacity with all the rounds facing backward in the mag...seriously...again with the idiots. And I'm sure no one ever has failed to insert their AR mag properly...smdh... 5) you say "big fireball" and "loud concussion" as if that's a bad thing. I want literally everyone in the neighborhood to know that someone is breaking into my place. Also, that's why I have the flashlight attached. 6) No, I'm not reloading. Firstly because the KSG has 15 rnds...Secondly because if I'm reloading, something is terribly wrong and it's rifle time. Seriously, what is with the shotgun hatefest in youtube? Why aren't we talking about, "Hey, let's say you only have a shotgun for home defense, for whatever reason. Here are some great ways to maximize it!"

[@Jymbo6511]

None of these reasons make a shotgun a terrible choice for home defense. I have fired everything from BB guns to MK-19s and given the choice in a home defense situation I chose the 12GA. The reloading bit may be the worst offender for me. If I toss out 5-8 12GA rounds (depending on weapon & if one is racked to start) and the person either isn't hit or is still coming at me I am the victim of a mob hit, not a home invasion.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

I respectfully do not agree with this... shotguns are thee best home defense weapons. And 12 gauge isnt the only gauge out ther...the only thing i agree with is the spread. Not alot of spread but doesnt mean shotguns arent easy to aim... but no handgun nor rifle cant compete with lets say a 00buck which are about 9. 30cal lead balls flying around 1300 fps...

[@hornyducks4090]

I'm going to have to disagree with this one, it's an amazing home defence option as long as you learn to handle it, as you should with ANY home defense weapon. It might not be a great choice for the 92 year old lady who can barely lift it but it's one of the best home defence options out there.

[@paulfrederiksen5639]

Even smart people are wrong once in a while, today is your day.

[@charliee5970]

Myth 1: Applies to any gun and has nothing to do with a problem with a shotgun specifically Myth 2: Again an ideology that has nothing to do with the shotgun itself and is overcome with education Myth 3: Can be dealt with buy purchasing a semi auto shotgun, which is recommended. As racking under stress can induce malfunctions Reason 1: Use a 20 GA and birdshot for lighter recoil. Birdshot should be used anyways to prevent over penetration. Reason 2: Most defensive shootings last 2 or 3 shots. A 7 round holding shotgun is plenty. Buy a shotgun for home defense people. With the right round, birdshot, you don't risk over penetrating and killing you child, wife, or neighbor like has happened plenty times with pistol or AR rounds.

[@PierreMailhot-gq9rl]

A hunting rifle for average people who are not obsessed with safe weapons is an all-in-one, for example the Mossberg maverick 88 home defense with 2 barrels, an 18 and a half inch and a 28 vented, a all included without breaking the bank and being able to think about something else, smoke detector, fire extinguisher, radio in the event of an electrical outage lots of life things etc..., I live in the countryside, each has its own situation in the city in new- York its other things, everyone adapts to their environment, ready-made recipes do not exist.

[@viscious_uv2]

I actually know of a story where a friend of a friend who lives in Kansas City heard someone in his house downstairs. He got his shotgun and racked it. The intruder IMMEDIATELY left the house.

[@davon6704]

Most home invaders have 0 intention of getting into a sustained firefight one loud blast from a 12 gauge and they’re running away

[@lonestarpatriot876]

Shotguns are superb for home defense. This video did zero to change my mind about that. I am not saying I would use birdshot but have you ever been shot in the face from 10-20 ft. (Typical self defense shooting ranges) with birdshot? I am betting your opinion on that front would change if you did.

[@williambotts635]

I have a 7+1 pump shotgun with 20" barrel and a 5+1 18.5" barrel, I believe if I needed more rounds without a reload then I need to move to a new location. I would rather have my shotgun than my 9mm for a home intruder.

[@MrGratefulEd]

Most of the cons you point out will be the same for an inexperienced citizen with any unfamiliar weapon. I'll take a shotgun everyday and twice on Sunday. The sound? Really?

[@lanceroberthough1275]

I agree working action on any firearm 99.9 percent of the time will not be a successful scare tactic and if that's your mindset you're going to get wasted because it's based on a psychology of your own reticence to take care of business. Working the action will tell Intruders your location and that is foolish.

[@miketv218]

Your stance produced dialogue. A shotgun is better than a baseball bat. Practice makes perfect. Appreciate all your vids.

[@GIXXXER274]

Thanks for the videos. My Tavor TS12 would disagree with you. It's loaded buckshot, slug, buckshot, slug....for a total of 16 shots. But I do agree with you on the reloading. Which is why I have my Glock on my hip for when it goes Winchester!

[@rickyretardo6367]

I do the same, one slug, one .00 Buck, slug, buck.....

[@combativetvpilot7720]

Man i wish you had done this like a couple days ago my sisters friend who's a legal Philippines immigrant just bought a 9mm pistol and a 12 gauge shotgun. She had previously called my AR heavy. That poor girl is gonna get beat up by that thing if she can even hold it.

[@alexandergennaro8596]

I agree with your analysis that's why I keep a set of ear plugs and some good sun glasses with my shotgun ready to go, no joke

[@JamesStakerWin]

16inch long gun can be used for any situation vs a niche-ish shotgun.

[@trapez6271]

Its a lousy choice for newbies who dont train and dont know the difference between a mag and a clip. I also might add if you need more rounds use mini shells, buy an adapter if you need. Last if you pull the trigger 7-8 time into the threat the jury 'may' not like that, however with buckshot you only pulled the trigger once.

[@cavalieroutdoors6036]

I'm not sure I agree. I *will* agree that they are not for everyone, and not for everyone's situation. People with small frames, people who are recoil sensitive, people that live in apartments maybe not so much. For people that are not recoil sensitive, live in a home style that would benefit from the system, and are willing to learn the weapon? I think you're going to be *very* hard pressed to find a better tool. 9 to 15 pellets of 00 buck is heap big "you're entering the forever box now" medicine.

[@gt-c-]

YES !

[@NightWolfBiker]

All around best choice in a home defense long gun has been around since the late 50s (ArmaLite). Sadly in NY not the best choice.

[@videogazer801]

Not that a shotgun wouldn’t do the job, but would use a 9mm with good defense ammo to stop the threat(s) and keep the shotgun ideally reserved for hunting skeet, and trap shooting.

[@lukec7525]

You seriously think a pistol would be better for home defense than a 12 gauge shotgun? Lol...

[@deputydog5261]

I disagree I use a 870, the recoil is nothing with a BlackHawk Knoxx Specops Stock which mitigates recoil, flash at night is not an issue as I have a very bright light and if it is dark I’ll be using the light, I have a Velcro side saddle with six shells on the side of the gun and the stock has a five shell holder. Practice is vital as is patterning your gun with the ammo. I also had my barrel done by Vang Comp and at house distances it shoots buckshot like a slug. There just is no greater firepower for a homeowner and no gun that actually has stopping / knockdown power but a shotgun.

[@revlouder5865]

Can't argue with the slow reload but what are 7 guys gonna break into a house most people work alone and who the hell thinks a shotgun is heavy maybe work out

[@timbopie4504]

Cool. Good video brother. Weak and/or recoil sensitive need another avenue. Thanks

[@cesarpareja2002]

I did my research, and I decide to go with a shotgun instead of AR for home defense. Remington Versa Max tactical 22 barrel 8+1 Is not like I am defending my life agains an army. I feel that I will out gun the intruder and most break-ins the intruder always bring a handgun not a Ak 47 or AR

[@michaelflagulant]

come to my house and you will see how terrible a shotgun can be!!

[@rockyaz4058]

Besides the noise of the slide, THAT SHOULD BE THE SECOND SOUND THE BAD GUY/S HEAR 😏

[@Verdha603]

I don't necessarily agree that shotguns are terrible for home defense because at the end of the day, everyone's circumstances are different, therefore everyone usually has to pick the right tool for their circumstances, with a shotgun being one of them. Inside a house in the hands of someone that's proficient with a shotgun, it is excellent. However, I do agree with a majority of the video that the shotgun (especially the pump shotgun) is overhyped and oftentimes have myths and tall tales making the shotgun into something it is not; it is not a guaranteed one shot stop 100% of the time, it is not something you can forgo the principles of aiming and still hit a target because of shot spread, racking the pump is just as likely to advertise to the bad guy where you are and that you are one shell less than what you had before instead of deter them, and its not so simple and reliable that you can hand it to anybody with little to no experience and expect them to perform well right out of the gate (though that really applies to any firearm). Newbies short stroking the pump on a shotgun is one of the most common mistakes I've seen, right up there next to riding the slide forward on a pistol, failing to fully cycle a lever on a lever action, or riding the bolt/charging handle forward on a semi-auto rifle or shotgun, because many newbies don't understand that you don't need to baby a firearm; putting some force into operating it isn't going to break it, regardless of what type it is.

[@SeumasSiosal]

Where shotguns shine is stopping power and low risk of over penetration.

[@bills6946]

A lot what you mentioned is true. However, that’s why you go to a range and shoot a shotgun. You must be trained and prepared on how to use it. Many people buy a shotgun for home defense and never fire it in their entire life. Not good in a home invasion scenario. The first shot could be the only one you get off. You must make it count.

[@rowdyparker7330]

The way your home and environment influence people to know se shot guns. I personally steer to lever action because capacity is fair and they are versatile for different roles. Also they are not as publicized (yet) as much as ARs. Not the best tool out there but definitely a decent one.

[@jdaz5462]

Everyone thinks they are an expert and knows what's best for "home defense". Any firearm that you are proficient with, holds at least 5 rounds, and is relatively short, is good for home defense.

[@RustyShacklefardd]

Lmao the only thing they're gonna hear is a gunshot from me

[@kevinbrown9831]

So, if you are the average citizen, don't choose the shotgun for your dynamic rapid dominance entry from your bedroom to clear your house.

[@mma709]

Remember when Uncle Sniffy said all you need is a shotgun and go and shoot it in the air

[@BarryBPruett]

Mossberg 590 A1 SPX nine 2 3/4" rounds. One 00 Buck blast equivalent to 4-8 9mm rounds. Bird shot is lethal under 20 feet...will explode a skull. Plus birdshot will not penetrate drywall whereas virtuallly anything else will go through multiple layers of drywall. There is a reason police breach a house with shotguns. Nothing is more lethal at close range. I think biggest issue is maneuverability inside a house, but if you are statyionary, set up behind cover, would be ideal

[@L3GN5RW9]

If bad guys never wore body armor, a semiauto shotgun with a detachable magazine would probably be the best home defense gun

[@richardwall8720]

True. But that goes with any weapon. It’s all about training. Shot placement. I don’t care who you are. You will be shaking like a leaf on a tree when put in that situation. I’m a pretty calm when hunting and taking a life of an animal. But when I was faced with the task of protecting my life and some I love. I was a nervous wreck.

[@geraldscott4302]

I agree with all your reasons, and have one more. The insanely loud sound a shotgun would make if you fired it inside of a house. There is no way I would fire a shotgun inside the house, even with hearing protection. It would likely blow your eardrums out. If you survive, you will be deaf for the rest of your life. And if someone has invaded your home, and is inside, you certainly don't want to be wearing hearing protection. In a situation like that you need your hearing more than ever. But there are also issues with rifles. If you live in the city, on a city street, or if you have family members in other rooms throughout the house, the last thing you want is an AR/AK, or any high powered rifle. They are also loud, and that bullet traveling at 3000+ feet per second is going top go through walls in your house, and could wind up hitting someone in the house across the street. And a .22 rifle is kind of pointless, due to it's size. Very hard to maneuver inside a house at night. My choice is a 9mm semi auto handgun, with hollow point ammo. In my case, a Glock 19, with a 33 round magazine. I am NOT a Glock fan. I bought it because at the time, it was the only thing available you could get a 33 round magazine for. I keep it laying on a nightstand beside the bed, with another loaded 33 round magazine next to it. 9mm hollow points are about the least likely round out there to wind up going somewhere you don't want it to. And you have 33 of them, so if you do miss, or there is more than one invader, you should still have enough ammo. If not (and I don't think that's likely) you can drop the mag, and shove in the other one you stuck in your pocket when you picked up the gun really fast, even in the dark. I also have a light on it, but you need to use that only when you need it. When you need to see your target, not to give away your position. Once you have turned on the light, you just lost your night vision, so you better hope it stays on. I would put a suppressor on it, but don't want to deal with the unconstitutional ATF. I recommend one if you don't have that issue.

[@KH-rt3ef]

9mm hollow points will probably penetrate several walls, unless they’re brick or stone. Dr. David Allen Grossman interviewed several LE officers and combat veterans for a couple books he’s written, and something weird happens pretty often when we’re stressed and we knowingly discharge a gun: the sound of the shot is muted, as if anticipating the sound under enough stress causes the ear to mechanically protect itself. Hearing is not the only sense that gets protected or is enhanced during a fight, and especially not one where grave injury is at stake. Many hunters for years have fired unprotected from enclosures, and retain their hearing… Personally I would only want a suppressor on a firearm that meets certain size criteria for spacing’s sake in this application; the muzzle should remain oriented in an advantageous angle, ideally all the time while room clearing. Suppressors add barrel length, which can take away from that ability.

[@TheTeeWorldsfreak]

still, ~ 6 .36 caliber led balls flying your way without body armour is a very bad combination. 12 GA buckshot in a 18" pump shotgun, or even in a 14" setup is a very capable setup for home defense. talking about recoil, there's enough solutions for that, like porting the barrel. sure, if you live in a very open area, where your home defense includes beyond 25 yard situations, I would choose a "rifle" too. especially if you run around in a 15k nvg setup, you sure can afford something more then a 500 USD pump shotgun for home defense...

[@jeffnpatricia]

I’m my house the only other human is right beside me so worries of over penetration are not present, so slugged up for bad guys.

[@dposcuro]

I understand all of your points. Hell, I personally agree with many of them... But to then suggest a handgun? A firearm that is considerably less powerful, and also considered by many to require more training, and practice to build the skill to be accurate with, especially in an extremely stressful situation? Seems....wonky to me.

[@3313-c2j]

I would say using a shotgun really depends on what size your house is

[@PiotrS-a]

All disadvantagies you've mentioned can be apllied to any gun.

[@562fooo7]

what if you have mini shells loaded in the shotgun

[@vladimirryabtsev6184]

Pistol, well... What if pistol is not an option? What is the next best choice?

[@Uberragen21]

A 12 gauge was my first home defense weapon. But very quickly I discovered it was entirely too long and unwieldy inside a home. Sure, it can still be used as a home defense weapon by all means, but it's not the best. I went and picked up a pistol with a light as my primary home defense weapon. The light weight, higher capacity, quick reloads, easy maneuverability, easy storage, easier for my wife to control and shoot accurately are huge wins over a shotgun that she shoots once and says, "never again!"

[@nickyj3571]

What about the shockwave

[@cle-chi]

get that barrel Chopped down then. 18 inches. cut off some buttstock too

[@gitarmac]

My Mossberg came with an 18.5 inch slugster barrel. I'm small, the stock has been cut down to fit me. It's very easy to maneuver in my home. On a separate note, I know of two people that have been shot with birdshot and have nothing to show but scars. Any firearm that you keep for home defense should be handled and used every now and then. Things like "recoil" will not be a factor when your life is in danger, much like I don't hear my rifles when I hunt. This isn't a very good video. For every "con" mentioned there is an option to dispell that concern. I keep more than one tool at my disposal in my bedroom, I consider my shotgun my most lethal option for the scenarios most likely to present themselves in my home/neighborhood. One must consider that there are different threats that require different tools. A random robbery or home invasion is different than when there is a period of civil disobedience like we saw during the summer of love. It's a shame we have to consider these things but this is where we are now. I hope to never have to use any of my self defense tools but I can't imagine going to sleep at night knowing I have nothing, that someone can enter my home and harm me or my loved ones while I just sit there. Having a tool and knowing how to use it is more important than which tool you choose, there are a lot of self defense options, the important thing is to know how to use that tool if God forbid you have to, and to be willing to use it if that time comes.

[@Uberragen21]

@@gitarmac excellent points and I can't disagree with any of them. I was just thinking of my wife and how she can handle and shoot my pistol much better than my shotgun. The shotgun is by far, a 100x better of a tool than a pistol, but mine is a 20" barrel with a 14.5" long length of pull that is frankly almost too long for me, let alone my wife. Since I wrote my comment I purchased a weapon light and the Magpul forend with M-lok mounting points, and a nice red dot. I still need to get a shorter Magpul stock to reduce the lop to 12.5". But I will keep my pistol available for my wife as she is more comfortable with that.

[@Uberragen21]

@@nickyj3571 I thought about that, but why buy another shotgun that is only good for home defense and nothing else when I already have one better suited for that and hunting. I have thought about buying a semi-auto shotgun to replace my pump, but again, why buy another? It's a hard justification for me and my wife.

[@andrewsanford2020]

Every gun has disadvantages, and most people are not good with a pistol or a shotgun.

[@citizengoodman8023]

I was going to write how I disagree but after reading the comments I don't think I need to.

[@lumpyslongshot2113]

Well played sir, I noticed you have close to 1000 people all disagreeing with you. What a smart way to get people to comment. Otherwise they would have just said he’s right and moved on. You have the you tube algorithms all figured out. Enjoy the payday my friend.

[@jesusfon5619]

I have two 12g in my bedroom, I mean that's not all but I do have them.

[@metroman8185]

870 REMINGTON are the best shotgun out there!!!

[@guruthossindarin3563]

All but the weight and brightness are mitigated by choosing the right shotgun (and accessories). Still good things to think about.