Why some skilled immigrants are leaving Germany | DW News

[@mariocuric6690]

Germany got tooo attractive for unskilled while professionals get treated worse than unskilled

[@krisnaputra695]

You nailed it!

[@mariocuric6690]

@@krisnaputra695 I'm living it. My parents are unskilled and I'm getting to be a professional. It was easy for them to come, but hard for me to stay.

[@TheAkbar23]

Sad!

[@slimahmed5631]

Exactly

[@justmoch8985]

brooooo, i’m a master abschluss holder and found it hard to enter germany compared to illegal immigrants 😂

[@KarolyHeinrich]

high taxes, unbearable housing costs, low salaries and the people… so no surprise

[@davidevignes9731]

I come frome Italy and I know most of the 2 countrys housing situation, and I can assure you that house prices in comparison with what u get here more than Italy are 90% of the cases VERY reasonable. same thing say spanish portugese greek romenian people... consider that Italy is the 8th largest economy in the world and one of the most fast growing countries in europe (for now) u do the math. if a skilled worker (or someone that wants to bevome skilled) wants to come here almost from anywhere else, can have only advantages

[@ZlodeyMr]

@@davidevignes9731 I come from Russia and I can say that when I worked as a software dev in an average city by local standards (population of a million people), I had a very close amount left after taxes and rent to what I have now in Berlin, but the difference in prices in restaurants and for comparable services often reaches 5 times. As for housing, most of my Russian IT colleagues bought their own apartments in their late 20s and early 30s, which is unthinkable in Germany, where most still live in rented accommodation. My colleague moved from Ukraine shared exactly the same experience (of course, he talked about the situation before the war), so I think it can be applied to many countries outside EU. It makes sense to choose Germany when you like the mentality, culture, etc., but it certainly doesn't make sense for economic reasons for most highly skilled jobs - high taxes just eat up your salary and put you close to low-skilled workers no matter how much you improve your qualifications. On the other hand, the lower your qualifications, the more profitable it becomes for you to live in Germany, due to the smaller difference in income. Highly qualified people whose goal is big money need to go to the States for example, but I must admit that the work-life balance culture in Germany is something many countries should learn from.

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

I think that cost of living crisis and housing crisis are world-wide problems now. I believe that it is bad in Germany, but is there a country where it is not bad? (And I mean safe, stable and democratic country with respect to human rights).

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

​@@samuela-aegisdottir Germany is extreme though. Germany has the lowest home ownership in all of Europe and everything is outdated. In Danmark, my original home country, I can buy a house for 50k - 150k€. In Germany? Forget about it, lmao. And the Danish are already crying about a crisis, meanwhile Århus has thousands of empty apartments.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

The weather is on top of that very unbearable for me.

[@johnhamond6379]

"As a skilled and qualified professional who has worked in the US, UK, Canada, and Germany, I must say that Germany ranks at the bottom of my list. While Germany has many positives, some of the people still seem to be stuck in 1945. They want qualified professionals to stay and work in the country, yet expect them to tolerate feeling unwelcome and accept racism."

[@simin5375]

I wonder what dou you think about Canada Mr? I will get my Canadian pr in a few months but still confused about Germany. Because it is close to my home, Turkey. Would you please explain your thoughts?

[@njpme]

Which is the best to worst? Rank them

[@GeDiceMan]

@@simin5375 Canada still accepts immigrants for decades and as long as you have the skills, that adds to the points for qualifying for immigration. Take note though that a lot have been trying to get in and there are some circles who believe the immigration numbers are too high. Right now job prospects are lower for everyone and housing is super expensive especially in the major cities. All these factors might lead to a change in policies and also the PM is likely to lose his job this year.

[@col.barnsby8595]

Based Germans. After all the brainwashing, they are still killing it.

[@rochester212]

​@@simin5375Stay where you are, there are enough turks in Germany as is, and i'm not even from there.

[@oasisnimimi]

The comment section here is much more informative than the video. I, too, came to germany, got my degree here and realise how manipulative the system is. Its a cycle of sabotage, for you to give your most vital resources (time, money, energy and skills) to a country that will never make you truly feel welcome.

[@iezioaudi22]

Thats the exact feeling I got. I too felt the same and left within first few months. The system is designed that way!

[@jemimaasante8927]

​@@iezioaudi22a bad system we always talk about it at work.

[@HJ5RGG]

Germany is the last country I would try

[@user-odobinggo]

I have also different reasons. Germany is not good place to study anymore for the following reasons. (I am not European and not white) 1. Trash like public transportations 2. No proper job oppportunities after master and phd (my country does better) 3. Too much political atmosphere: people blammed me just because I take airplane to go to my country for my vacation, force me to support an ideology. In my country, people are eager to discuss my field of study, not like here. I do want to do my study, not politics. 4. Questioning to the quality of German education; lecture quality is often bad, and professor blammed foreign students, etc. The ranking of German Univ are low, and there are reasons!!! 5. In academic career, USA is anyway much better. Germany also limits the period of stay in academy (google ich bin hannah). You cannot stay longer than the period in Germany.

[@RUHappyATM]

Didn't Germany give you free tertiary education?

[@davidgarcia6002]

We are needed but not wanted. As easy as that.

[@PHlophe]

Davy, Que Triste !

[@nxo91]

Actually, a lot of foreigners are starting own companies and investing in other countries. I don't expect to be wanted, but I expect my hardwork to pay. Germany has a clear law that anybody can be successful as long as you do what they want.

[@brvinno]

Así es

[@col.barnsby8595]

Based attitude tbh

[@rajeshwarangajendran7700]

Well said

[@nativefraulein5801]

One true answer: the bureaucracy and descrimination are intense and unecessary. I am an American, I have been living in Germany for 11 years. I have a wonderful German husband and two kids born here. I speak C1 level German and I am integrated. I am fully trained high school teacher. I am in a 'high needs field' which is special education. Does the system here need me? Yes.(especially beacause I am living a in a high needs, urban area) Does the system want me? No. You are consistently told you are not enough.

[@MR-xo6sh]

That si so true 😢

[@nimmaze91]

"You're consistently told not enough" 🥲🙌🏽

[@dharmoslap]

It will take at least a generation for Germans to finally understand that foreigners can contribute as much or sometimes even more to society than natives. It's just a matter of talent, work ethic and specialization. Once you acknowledge that, there should be a discussion about how well are institutions and services prepared to support internationals.

[@fredrika27]

I teach English, but I am also not accepted, not even in a bilingual program. When I do get a teaching job, I can only stay for the months stated in the contract, then I must go. At my last school, the students put up a hefty protest when I left. I was their first teacher of color they had who wasn't Germany and who understood what they were going through. If the Germans expect this generation of immigrants to be successful, they also need to employ immigrants and non-Germans as teachers, head mistress and general business people, so that the children can see there is a future for them here. Otherwise, the youth will walk with their feet, which many are doing now. It's ridiculous that I work at the VHS for MSA, where I have 100% graduation rate for my English students, but I can't work at a Gesamtschule, Realschule, Hauptschule, or Gymnasium! Meanwhile, in Sachsen, a British teacher was forced to give up his job because of not having German credentials, but two of his students won DAAD awards!

[@Flo-vn9ty]

@@fredrika27 I know, it doesn't really help you: but many young German teachers are not treated much better. They get employed for the current school year, are unemployed during the summer holiday and get employed again after the summer holiday. If you study (as a German citizen at a German university) English instead of English teaching and decide that you want to become a teacher afterwards: good luck with that. I'm German and studied computer science at a university of applied sciences. I'm allowed to teach students at a university of applied science (and probably BA students at a university) but even with taking additional courses it's almost impossible to be allowed to teach high school kids.

[@Frobbl]

There's zero reason for skilled people to go to Germany anymore.

[@eisernherz3929]

And by pissing off intellectual people globally will effect Germany's future...

[@svashtainishta]

go to Angola brother,

[@Freedomrocksusa]

They can stay in their countries and fix their own problems then noone is forcing people to move out 😮

[@kaltenorden]

I moved from London to Germany. After 8 years I am leaving for Cyprus soon. I'm not happy about this move, but if you want to be successful as an educated person or even someone who has some worthwhile skill. Germany is not the place for you. I lost my faith here a long time ago

[@mmarques2736]

​@@Freedomrocksusa tell us you don't understand the dynamics of innovation economy without telling us you don't understand the dynamics of innovation economy:

[@barrylyndon80]

It's crazy.....nearly 3000 comments, mostly from high skilled immigrants with experience in the german job market. Result; 99 % negative

[@chillout914]

yes facts ....

[@knorkeize]

And yet: In 2022, the majority of EU Blue Cards issued in the EU were issued in four countries: Germany (63 242, 77.3 % of the total), Poland (4 831, 6.0 %), Lithuania (3 924 or 4.8 %) and France (3 876, 4.7 %). There is something shady with the comments here. Frustrated Germans?

[@PetrM-77]

Many people with Blue Card aren't staying in Germany for longer than 3 - 5 years.

[@jdjphotographynl]

Because the people that are happy have better things to do but to complain about whatever on social media.

[@thoroughsoft]

Did it occur to you that maybe these "skilled workers" are not so skilled after all..?

[@reza310]

I am here legally , i am a medical doctor and am doing a phd . Honestly every time i have to go to ausländerbehoder i have a panic attack . I finally decided that i will leave at the end of my contract to Australia.

[@a.alrawi9725]

The same 😂😂, especially when the who responsible on you turkish not married and she is over 40, I swear she will destroy you 😂😂

[@fatfarmers7360]

So why do you have a panic attack anytime you go there?

[@Justaradbro]

Personal problems I figure

[@woldeyesus9423]

@@reza310 good devotion. The uglyness is not by accident. It is well designed to make one feel uncomfortable. And one should be left with the feeling, there is light at the end of the tunnel, if you work hard to let it light. In other words, it is your fault, not ours.

[@reza2kn]

Hi Reza kako ❤ I'm so so sorry you had to go through that 😥! It's very unfortunate when things like this happens to people who don't mean anyone harm.. 😤I'm glad you have another option to move to Australia and I hope the Aussie's will treat you lots better ! Take very good care in the meanwhile! ❤❤

[@EnterSpacebar]

I left Germany after 5 long years. Despite having a Blau Karte, a salary of €86,000 and eligibility for the EU long term residence permit, I just couldn't stand the retarded bureaucracy, extremely inefficient systems, long waiting times for everything, the refusal of many businesses and service providers to even adopt English as an option, the dull cities, crazy real estate prices and a lot more. People were generally nice, but it wasn't too difficult to come across the nasty ones, especially in the service sector. Service, even with high prices, absolutely sucks in Germany, like the complete opposite of Asia. I didn't even apply for the EU residence permit because I couldn't bother with German B1. I speak 6 languages, so learning isn't an issue for me. My heart was just never in Germany, and it never felt like home at all. In Germany, there's a shortage of everything, except attitude.

[@clairechloe5294]

You said it so well 👍💯👍.

[@MrDartfire]

the same but after almost 2 years lol

[@kluger2222]

A well put comment

[@janairo1883]

5Years in Germany and not able to pass the very basic B1 exam?? Sorry but I doubt that this is the kind of immigrants that those countries need!

[@FERDI-f6n]

6 languages dude? Why on earth dont you focus on one or two. Dont expect German to accept your 'amazing German level' if you are toying learning other languages. If iin Germand you had to focus on German and excell. Just an example.

[@aka.7076]

I’ve recently begun a 1-year countdown to leave Germany, and I’m already feeling much happier than I have in the past 7 years here.

[@francbele]

where did you decide to go?

[@finkledo]

Context. What was your experience like?

[@pohanahawaii]

But not before securing the safety of a German citizenship, am I right?

[@IliassRacing]

@@pohanahawaii So what?

[@pohanahawaii]

@@IliassRacing : So, hypocrites.

[@sneckotheveggieavenger9380]

The problem with Germany is that it is too welcoming to the unskilled while puts every sort of barrier for those with skill and degrees

[@jaxonk]

The unskilled ones get free housing, Kindergeld and don't have to work for years.

[@mark9294]

Sums it up

[@countryboy9695]

@@sneckotheveggieavenger9380 not only in Germany its same in Uk, Sweden and many European countries

[@etre3061]

SO TRUE!!!!!!! 😢

[@Nash0303]

​@@countryboy9695London, at least, is wonderful

[@Shahkabul3399]

One question for Germany, If you need 400,000 workers per year, can you provide 400,000 houses/apartments per year as well? Nope

[@WR-NC-ASPL]

Most German cities have rent control laws.. So, house owners are not interested in giving their house for rent. Also, due to rent control laws, No one is interested in investing their own money in constructing new affordable housing to give for rent to others. Only new condos that are not included in rent control are being constructed.

[@Shahkabul3399]

@WR-NC-ASPL politicians need to tell the truth or at least have better policies for people looking to work in Germany, otherwise, people will obviously opt for better options

[@lovenpeace4life]

This is the main issue I am facing while living in Germany with my family. Not able to find an apartment.

[@rochester212]

They CAN, they don't want to. Same for wages.

[@dharmoslap]

@@WR-NC-ASPL But the rent control doesn’t apply for new constructions. The issue is that private sector isn’t capable to solve this issue on its own.

[@TheShawMustGoOn]

1. German companies expect people to speak C1 Deutsch out of college. Which is not only unreasonable but also impossible unless a student only studied German and not their subject matter. 2. The companies are still milking COVID and the war in Ukraine as excuses to not hire enough people while the pool of recent graduates is increasing. 3. People with specialised degrees are unemployed. Germany doesn't need immigration for skilled labour. It needs to change it's corporate mindset and be more welcoming and understanding of the non-Germans. Sure people need to learn your language but that doesn't mean that they'll land here, eat currywurst and immidiately start speaking the local dialect. You've to be patient and give them time, which they simply don't want to give. And don't get me started on the meagre salary. It's insulting.

[@ronneyismael605]

So true

[@soumyamukherjee1128]

Absolutely

[@mananjoshi6796]

I really like that Currywurst thing.

[@alko_xo]

You nailed it perfectly 👌🏼

[@marcellesiporatemgoua8975]

They are looking for skilled people for low wages. That's all. Because some ask for 5 years experience for neo graduates. I exaggerate but that's about it.

[@mocha_bear00]

Germany is for those who have NO OTHER OPTION than Germany.

[@col.barnsby8595]

No, Germany is for Germans

[@mocha_bear00]

@@col.barnsby8595 Your elites don't agree with you.

[@AndrewKruck]

@@mocha_bear00 they soon will

[@mocha_bear00]

@@AndrewKruck how on Earth will you have the power to alter will of German industry owners, company boards, party members, University presidents, regional administrative body leaders and celebrities? Every single power holder and half of the voters in this country want open and unrestricted immigration, especially from the 3rd world.

[@mstt3530]

@@col.barnsby8595not anymore! Germans are not having children, the government wants to be competitive, so, they are using immigration to assist with that growth!

[@mvand1387]

I'm a graduate of a top German university, and I've successfully navigated all the challenges, from learning German to securing a job, getting a driver's license, finding a good home, obtaining a permanent residence permit (including nightmares of dealing with the notorious Ausländerbehörde), and more and I am truly thankful to this country. Despite all this, I don't feel welcome. While I've met many kind people along the way, there’s no guarantee that you won’t encounter nasty ones like racist landlords or neighbors or a random service provider and the likelihood of that happening aren’t low. I'm now considering a second migration to the USA because I've come to realize that in Germany, you may never truly feel like you belong, and constantly feeling like an outsider sucks.

[@SilconSwitcher]

I lived in Berlin for 3 years and left for the UK for the same reason. I never felt home and faced far too much borderline racism for the 3 years I was there. Lived in the UK for 10 years and never faced anything like that till the last few weeks.

[@AliRaza-ed1cc]

@@SilconSwitcherHow do you feel about the UK following the recent riots?

[@user-or6yn8pm3c]

MAGA people in America are welcoming 😆 🤣 😂

[@egegeggegeeg4789]

what did you study? if u dont mind asking

[@mark9294]

For what it’s worth, I’m German and I don’t feel I belong. I don’t think “belonging” works the same way in Germany as it does in other countries.

[@rytiss.5205]

Wages are low, living cost are high. It's as simple as that.

[@sharaththummalapally9150]

exactly, life becomes more complicated once we are in Germany, life ends up with no savings, heavy taxes, high cost of living, trouble with racism, beaurocracy, facism and what not. I would recommend this country only if u are flooding away from the countries because of the War.

[@bestdestiny4881]

​@sharaththummalapally9150 i agree with you completely

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@sharaththummalapally9150 So what is the better option?

[@Lando-kx6so]

No. It's language, culture, deep xenophobia/racism.

[@jamesharrison2374]

It has been 26 years since I moved back to the states, however for my 16 years in Germany the pay was good, and from my most recent visit the food and restaurants remain low priced. Want really low wages and high prices come to the US.

[@anotherappointment]

Germany is just a huge factory owned by Germans that need workers to keep the factory running. Don’t expect to be accepted and you’ll be fine. But do well to save money and get out as quickly as possible

[@D.M.S.]

Germany is fair. We treat ourselves exactly the same way. I was born here, I'm white with German parents and never felt accepted no matter where I worked.

[@ladasm594]

Also Germany only accepts immigrants when there is a labour shortage. That's just miserable to admit. It's US where immigrants are really welcomed in any time and any weather. Germans only want workers when they are in trouble themselves, not because they are believing in meritocracy.

[@derskeal4240]

​@@D.M.S. That's interesting.

[@wearethepeters]

@@D.M.S. I agree 💯

[@dharmoslap]

Now they don't even have free apartments left, so it's probably better not to come here this year anymore. Major cities like Berlin, Frankfurt and Munich are simply done.

[@AdnanIB]

Germany dont have any facilities for Skilled People, after working for 3.5 years in a good position, Finally I'm moving out next month. German system is build for unskilled asylum seekers (both legal and illegal ones)

[@isla054]

I totally agree with you, it hurts when you pay 40% of your salary for housing while other people taking bürgergeld and living for free.

[@victorymonument1888]

​@isla054 , and the worst thing is that many of those who hate immigrants are the ones living on Bürgergeld.

[@matrixexposer6217]

@@isla054 Don't talk bs.

[@terrorfilms]

@@isla054 true!

[@suntwins5736]

@@isla054stop spreading lies

[@countryboy9695]

Just by reading these comments Germany looks like a no go zone.

[@mho...]

just like everywhere else, those who yell the loudest are not representative of "the whole group" ! specially in youtube comments! most of us have no issues wil immigration & even welcome skilled workers! we just have an issue with "sozialschmazotzern" (those who just come here to live without working, supported by the state!)

[@j.mueller1921]

​@@mho...And how would differentiate a "skill immigrant" from a "Sozialschmarotzer" on the street or everyday life, if I may ask?

[@dynamogaming4953]

Sad reAlity

[@conradloerts5916]

​@@j.mueller1921enough paraizdes

[@j.mueller1921]

@@conradloerts5916 Sorry, I only understand English and German. Could you repeat that in either of those languages?

[@davidmaisel8062]

Hi Germany, please stop putting advertisements for trained medical staff in Brazil. We have critical staff shortages here, and your nation doesn't provide security for our nationals and their families.

[@jebuskmiest]

yeah but it's a trap so they don't care 😂

[@akshayganesh4144]

Don’t worry Germany you are welcome in India

[@samlatooni]

Bro! ONLY Arabs can survive Germany cos they have a lot of similarities with Germans especially mentality

[@gilbertodemelo]

Actually, the Brazilian nurse in the video said that she does have security.

[@MrMarsilia]

This is untrue! Every job in Germany gets you social security. It is mandatory by law…

[@TheEnterLifeGaming]

Auslanderbehörde was not even mentioned... That is alone a HUGE reason not to migrate in Germany.

[@yeahOnCemOreE]

What is that?

[@asafoadjei1]

Foreign Office that when you pay them visit, forces you to speak German. Funny

[@TheAkbar23]

Sad!

[@dharmoslap]

They act as they don't even want any English-speaking talent living in their country. But if they continue to do so, they are at a serious risk of unresolved labour shortage.

[@prasadt1-g4m]

​@@dharmoslap ironically or sadly - even the Language schools where you go for inquiry about German course also communicate with you in German, as if you can speak German and understand German but still want to do a course... This is ridiculous.

[@buddy1155]

There is no skilled labour shortage in Europe, there is a shortage of skilled labour willing to work for little money. Companies are pressuring governments to bring in cheaper labour to decrease wages (and increase unemployment but companies don't care about that)

[@StiflersMutter]

ok so there is no shortage in high paying IT Jobs? I work in IT and we have lots of trouble finding people eventhough we pay really good.

[@paleface953]

THIS! Also, when they say Germany *needs* 400k of immigrants a year, they mean *BUSINESS* wants 400k immigrants, not Germany. Ask your neighbors, if they really need 400k immigrants :)

[@panfu4944]

@@paleface953 Business is what generates your welfare, pension and economy so bread doesn't cost 20 euros. Everyone who works, works also for your benefits. I wouldn't be so picky knowing how bad your economy is. Old, outdated and stubborn. Railways are disaster. Still using faxes.

[@eisernherz3929]

Germans kept non Germans down and away from being part of the society. If leading roles at work only has the usual 1-2 POC to fulfill the quote...leave or don't bind too much with this working place And don't make children go through this

[@lusolanga8423]

@@paleface953 There aren't enough Germans trained in IT, nursing or care homes. The number of young people dropping out of school is increasing. Many people who are working now will be retired in less than a decade. I've seen so many bus drivers from Eastern Europe who don't speak German, and it's a disaster. But the bus companies have no choice because there aren't many Germans willing or available to do the job.

[@fedoanuja]

1. German neighbors are aggressive, racist and unfriendly 2. Specialist doctor appointments are difficult to get 3. Doctors do not treat you seriously 4. Finding house is horrible 5. Finding daycare is extremely difficult 6. Getting any service takes months as simple as buying sofa of your choice or getting a new kitchen 7. Contracts trap you. 8. Literally little or no alternatives to internet service providers and firget about speed 9. Mobile data is extremely costly 10. Little or no support from government ….i can go on. As a skilled immigrant you are here only to pay taxes and ask no questions.

[@fortissima94]

2.-7. are problems not only for expats, but for Germans, too!

[@SandyJ-hi9vn]

Absolutely right.. I also got scammed in house rentals and I am also not satisfied with the current situation and agreed with all your points

[@AndrewKruck]

yupp so stay out please

[@MotherAotearoa]

Absolutely agree with you, specially point 1., they are truly racist, I went to the German School in Guatemala, and Germans - German Descendants treated us (Guatemalans) as 4th class citizens in our own country. I had the opportunity to migrate to Germany, but didn't want to live through that racism again. Instead I migrated to New Zealand, best choice I've ever done 👍

[@Sebastian1998844]

It depends on where you live. The smaller the city, the worse the conditions are. If you live in a big city, you’re generally in a better situation. I have a C1 in German and lived in Munich for three years-it was amazing. Now I’m living in Berlin until I can return to Munich, and so far, it’s been great. I should mention that my neighbors here are all highly educated Germans, not older than 45, and they speak several languages. They’re usually starting families or something similar and are very welcoming. I’ve heard horror stories about East Germany, so I wouldn’t recommend going there

[@Andrew-qs9fw]

My fellow non-Germans….Don’t make the mistake of coming to Germany right now. The country will sooner or later have a crisis due to its politics and their companies falling behind in competitiveness due to incompetence and arrogance. Instead of blaming themselves, they will blame immigrants, including you. Also, if you are a qualified foreigner, you will have to come to terms with being a second class resident, watching how natives enjoy their life and expect you to do their work. Only “luxury jobs” with a strong union like IG Metall will ensure you a fair treatment. But most of these jobs are occupied by 55+ yo people that are waiting for retirement without innovating or contributing absolutely nothing to their company. The woman in the video is happy because she married a local (for love of course). With her low salary as a nurse she would be absolutely miserable and lonely. The Indian guy has a family, and well, he comes from India.

[@Ingrid-wf4cl]

So the old workers are only sitting there and waiting for their retirement and refuse to work .

[@Andrew-qs9fw]

@@Ingrid-wf4cl they refuse to learn new things because they can’t be fired or earn less than before. No interest or vision whatsoever. That’s why Germany still uses DSL or fax, to set an example.

[@Cornel1001]

The indian family also receive a flat from the company, otherwise will get ..nothing even had the money ! Same situation in UK where to rent a flat/house is like a wild journey of desorientation. While 10-15 millions houses are empty they pretend we have a housing crisis.

[@Andrew-qs9fw]

@@Cornel1001 they would eventually get something after applying to 100 apartments and facing blatant discrimination. It would also be incredibly expensive or really old.

[@mabel9701]

🎯

[@Titaniusx]

It isn’t a skills shortage problem. Companies simply refuse to pay modest wages.

[@johntee1614]

😱 Germany pay is awful, taxes are high, place is boring and cold, gloomy weather, people hardly smile, car is very expensive, hard to get an apartment, lots of red tape, positive is food is cheap. First world country: free healthcare and education. But happiness??? Nah! No way!

[@inesquicklourencodelima1023]

Brazil's health system is infinitely better than Germany's, and higher education just as good or even better in many cases. Both are also free. The problem in Brazil is a lack of infrastructure, social inequality and corruption. But the last two are reaching Europe too. 🤷‍♀️

[@Shankar-Bhaskar]

​​@@inesquicklourencodelima1023Lack of infrastructure, poor environment, pollution, social inequality and corruption plague India too. These are problems shared by all the developing countries around the world. That's why people from the developing world want to move to the developed world.

[@markfromthefuture477]

​@@inesquicklourencodelima1023and Brazil is a developed country? You can't compare it to Germany

[@TheDotBot]

Only Germany's healthcare system isn't free. Low earners, self-employed people and civil servants are practically excluded from it and have to get private insurance. That's ok for civil servants, but self-employed people pick up the shortfall. This means that beyond a certain age, being self-employed gets prohibitively expensive. That's one of the reasons it's difficult to get services.

[@SamanthaBNqoko]

Food is not cheap 😮

[@advitameternam2631]

By the time Germany understands this all those skilled workers would have left the country. The system is so slow and frustrating, not to mention the discrimination at every level.

[@Honeyless-Badger]

Who told you that they need skilled immigrants? Opposite, they want low educated people who would accept to do hardest works with low salary and wouldn't complain about their work and life conditions.

[@KrisGoog]

As a german native, this comment needs to be higher up.

[@Roberto-wt7kr]

Exactly. They want cheap labour bordering slavery

[@andreasstubel284]

I'm a German born in South Africa and speak the language fluently. I immigrated to Germany for 13 months, hated it and went back to South Africa😂

[@Celoxocis]

More skilled labors will be leaving Germany. My brother a senior softwares engineer already decided to leave Germany due to unbearable high cost for living and unable to afford a house for his wife and two daughters working overtime. IT companies in Germany do NOT pay US IT salary jobs. Me and my wife also decided for the sake of our daughters future to leave Germany for Poland in the next years. Poland has a bright future ahead and has become a central IT hub for US and Europe. Germany has nothing left to offer but high taxes, high cost of living, a bad and outdated retirement system, analog burocracy, no digital progress. I could go on and on. If you think to come to Germany as a skilled worked, DON'T, there are better alternative countries to choose from!

[@giovannidepetris6335]

Poland is even more racist than D and it is growing because EU and especially D need it to have a middle class to absorb manufacturing of the EU an sto be well enough to be a reliable partner but especially to be a buffer with Russia ( an old story) . The good conditions in Poland will soon normalize as they normalized everywhere after a good start entry in the EU . Don t be fooled . There is no paradise . And everyone here talking about the USA are not correct: taxes are astronomical health care much worse than you think and very expensive racism high and quality of life much lower than in the eu: I lived here for o er 30 yrs in the us, I can t wait to leave asap.

[@aleksanrusyan]

Yes, we have very high taxes and social costs because we are feeding millions of unskilled and unemployed people - both nationals (which is why we need skilled labour) and immigrants. And more are coming due to open frontiers and an unwilling government to stop it (unlike the example Poland you are mentioning).

[@skywalker_music3421]

@@aleksanrusyan I agree I mean the people are realizing the situation slowly, hopefully there are better days ahead!

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

​@skywalker_music3421 People are wrongly realizing the situation and going back to old political ideas.

[@seiwarriors]

What other countries you’re talking about?

[@marcschweiz]

As someone who migrated to switzerland and visits Germany quite often I've encountered far too many rude people in Germany. Why are (so many) germans so grumpy / unhappy?

where are you from exactly ?

[@user-yr4vp1jk7j]

Where are you from?

[@JLu-k5z]

Ist the Culture 😂

[@myself3209]

As a native german I cant answer that question either, but I definitely agree that they are.

[@sashdashdash6138]

Must be the loss of ww2

[@Alma-wl9bo]

After 12 years living in Germany, I still dont have any german friend. Nobody talks to you here as a forein.

[@Darkrose42]

Don't feel bad, they don't have German friends either.

[@DoodleDan]

Lmao ​@@Darkrose42

[@Salio_Mendes]

​@@Darkrose42 😂😂😂😂

[@persiathiest1963]

Why you need "German" friends? Grow up

[@Alma-wl9bo]

@@persiathiest1963 cause is normal to have friend from the country you live in. What a bad answer!!

[@yuyuplayer]

1. Difficult language 2. Terrible burocracy 3. Racism 4. Low salary compared to other choices 5. People are cold (they can be helpful sometimes but they never accept foreigners as an essential part of their society)

[@izzyrov5814]

#5 That sounds like Japan too and I'm sure other countries. It's not unique to Germany.

[@nrasjid]

Correct. I married a german but I prefer to work in the Netherlands because the salary is higher with the same job and work culture is way better. The dutchies are more warmer than the german. You still see racism here and there but not as much in Germany. 😢

[@max4music-www]

​@@izzyrov5814 Germany is now second main destination for immigration, and Robert Habeck wants it to become a welcoming place. Yet they are stuck with their culture and attitude. In Japan they at least don't pretend to be something that they are not.

[@sarasalam6571]

1000000%%%%%

[@thermologo3451]

PERFECT SUMMARY

[@barbsmart7373]

I would never go to Germany. The people are clearly unfriendly. It is quite appalling hearing about the strong prejudice.

[@SyrianSpace]

One poor experience shouldn’t be generalized

[@chillout914]

@@SyrianSpace not one millions of experiences ....

[@azt3ca]

That’s not true.

[@mozart4128]

Absolutely true comments

[@barbsmart7373]

@@SyrianSpace I agree entirely. In my case, I have observed a lot of German people in my country. People here have had experiences with German people that are too astounding to repeat here. I have listened to a lot of stories and read thousands of comments. I have also read books. There is no doubt about it, there is a lot of malice, judgement, negativity, impatience, and prejudice, particularly among older Germans. I observe a very selfcentred mindset among Germans. My view is that many Germans are deliberately cruel. That is because human beings are deliberately ignored and excluded. Often newcomers are not acknowledged, not spoken to, not welcomed, and not included. I have seen that a lot of people have been in Germany for 5 or 10 years and not made any friends. Others have made friends- but they are all other foreigners. This IS my strong view because I have lived in one country for a long time. People here are friendly. I have never thought anyone in public has ever been rude to me. There is a certain amount of prejudice here. But it is frowned upon. Most people I know do not express prejudice. I am the only person I know who has been traumatized by Germans. There is also a disturbing rise now in the right wing anti- immigration factions.

[@wyswygsommer2769]

My observations are followings: - The Germans are looking for more likeable worker than skilled worker. If you looked/act different, you might have hard time to find a good paying job. - The worker should have skill but should not smarter than the hire manager. The smarter you are, the more unlikeable you are, since you put pressure on the manager. - The discrimination mostly doesnt happen infront of you, but rather through burocracy. Its intended, not coincidence if you have a hard time.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

Very good points, especially the second one. Thanks for this.

[@Ofelas1]

Passive aggressiveness is common, the more "foreign" you are, the worse it gets

[@einenomadin]

exactly what happened at my work place, we had some very capable Indian IT engineers who only came to be disappointed at how their ideas would never be accepted by our German supervisor who clearly doesn’t know anything about what she’s doing (plus that on average she’s on one-week vacation every month

[@pragmatic4398]

exactly you described it correct

[@andersonfelippe9016]

I'm an immigrant living in Sweden. I've been to Germany several times, including on business trips and even though Sweden has its quirks, I'd never trade my life here for Germany. You know how people say Swedish people are cold? Well, compared to Germans, they're practically latinos 😂

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

Scandinavians are easygoing. I' ve lived both in Denmark and Germany.

[@chillout914]

not just cold they are mean too

[@supr_be]

easy-going, spontaneous, and funny - that’s how i experienced Scandinavians. germans are the exact opposite 😂

[@marcopolo1765]

I'm a Latino man (from Brazil) currently living in Germany. I'm a software engineer. I learned the language, read national history books, learned the current culture, learned what Germans like, such as music, sports, hobbies, cooking, etc. local culture. But the only feeling I have after 5 years of living here is that the Germans hate me simply for being a foreigner. I have a German girlfriend, but I told her that if one day she wants to marry me, she will have to come back to Brazil with me, as I don't intend to live my whole life in a country where I feel like I'm hated for seemingly no reason.

[@heidelbergaren5054]

@@marcopolo1765 Completely understandable

[@tonda2zu]

1. People are not so nice 2. Housing costs are high 3. Services are of poor quality but expensive 4. Burocracy 5. In Germany everyday life can be boring

[@clairechloe5294]

Yes, everything you said is true. 👍💯

[@chillis8267]

Actually if you speak the language and know their tone of behavior, they are very friendly and understanding.

[@susuilu]

well, what is considered friendly globally, is not comparable with Germany​@chillis8267

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

The German people I know are very friendly. They are open, nice, easygiong, moderate, polite, reasonable, gentle... And not as noisy as the people from some southern countries.

[@giovannidepetris6335]

Services poor quality?? Burocracy??? What countries are better please tell us

[@tatjana7008]

FUN FACT: They speak English and only English if you are White native speaker. My American and Australian friends tried to learn German, but NOBODY speak that to them. So English is not problem, its just excuse to not speak to you

[@icequeen6719]

I experienced it they would not speak English with me but with white folks they would be most sympethetic ppl explaining them in English god iam a woc

[@myself3209]

In germany we learn english for like 10 years in school, its absolutely rediculous if they claim to not speak it.

[@yz4923]

love the comments here, so true! I came to Germany 7 years ago , speak German fluently and am on the verge of getting the citizenship but I will leave the country soon , why? 1- extremely ineffective bureaucracy 2-high taxes ( like you are being punished for not having a kid and earning more money, how dare you?) 3- low acceptance for innovation and technology ( I swear I had to use and am still using a Fax Machine!! at work, I thought Fax was something that disappeared when I was a kid but it apparently just moved to Germany ) 4- bad weather 5- even with a C2 Certificate, Germans are not the most friendliest people around ( like some other central and north european countries ) , you immediately feel the difference in attitude when you go to Spain, Italy or more friendly countries 6- hypocrisy when it comes to immigration policies... like they want the most skilled workers but they dont want to pay them a good salary and even from that salary half is gone without you seeing it. and yet they still seem to wonder where the problem is.... my friend, Money, make them earn more at the end of the month(AFTER tax) and they will stay, yet they do every other measure apart from this :)))

[@reflectlight1368]

its insane how y'all sum it up so well! Couldnt have done it myself

[@SandBox-l4q]

When I retired here I began receiving two types of pension. The teacher's union one, and the German government one. The teacher pension begins on the first of the month and always pays on the first (more or less), in order for the pensioner to have money to live on through the month. The philosophy of the government, on the other hand, was that a pension is like a job. First you work, then you get paid. The German government pension (Social Security) pays on the 31st or last day of the month, beginning with those 30 days from date of award.

[@lovenpeace4life]

I went to the foreign office in Dusseldorf and Karlsruhe, Germany. And they don't speak English. I mean if it's a foreigners office, they would expect people to come there who don't speak German, right. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@adriangamble2214]

I have learned the language but thats the question I’ve been asking!!!! Agreed

[@user-yr4vp1jk7j]

Why should foreigners office speak German if no one else does....

[@moboe7719]

Yes, they should at least speak Arabic, Turkish, Hindi, Spanish, French, Farsi and Zulu + English. Almost forgot about Russian, Polish, Serbian, Mandarin, ...

[@anismatar]

@@moboe7719 English would suffice as everyone speaks English and it is the de facto foreign language most schools around the world teach, and most movies, social medias, documentaries and businesses are in English.

[@ricardosf777]

It’s in the name, Foreign Office, the clue is there … if they apply for these jobs, you would think that should be open to the fact that they might come across/be exposed to people who have just arrived in the country and (still) don’t speak the language. It’s like working at an International Airport or Hotel and expect all the passengers/guests to speak the local language. It’s a given that in these sort of environments the “Lingua Franca” defaults to English to make everyone’s life easier. I advocate however, for people to learn the language of their country of the residence, as it’s not only a mark of respect for your host country but an added value to your personal development/skills, but this doesn’t happen overnight.

[@fmango]

I lived in Germany for nearly a year. I was studying intensive German and freelance remotely. Language is difficult but you're learn, isolation wasn't a problem, I like to keep to myself. The reason I left was because I saw a German mom and her little child make fun of an Indian gentleman at his back, and another German person chase an Arab looking guy and punch him in the face. When Germans are drunk they revert to full last century behavior.

[@garolstipock]

Northern Europe tends to be that way, a reserved civility on the surface, but get them drunk, high, or in a homogenous huddle then the explicit explitives come out, and dear lord, you should hear what they say if you get them to lose their temper... I think if studied, we'd discover that quite a large portion of the population are on the Aspergers side of the autism spectrum.. you see it in the eyes sometimes when they are caught in the throws of actually being excited or enraged for a spell. To be fair, southern-Europe isn't too much better... Only they don't have the curious hints of Aspergers it feels.

[@jontyrhodes4155]

Thats not common kiddo Its a rare event

[@MajidÆgidius]

​@@garolstipockdude, I'm assburguers, and I'm kind and have empathy. (I'm latino) And I met great friends from US, and Argentina in Germany, and we were treated badly, by the other germans citizens, they didn't like that we were speaking in English, and they shout us to speak in German, even though it was an international restaurant, Well, my point is. Is not about autism or not. It's about their "incultura"

[@jomimoffera1071]

I was born and raised in Germany. My parents arrived in Germany in the 1980s. I have a German passport, but it’s not worth the paper that it’s on. I immigrated to the US right after finishing medical school. Leave Germany if you don’t want your children and grandchildren to feel like unwanted guests.

[@ladasm594]

You made a right choice! This country and society is in a terrible shape.

[@mysteriousman4966]

türmüsün kardes? Yolun acik olsun.

[@ty-zc6jh]

Wish you the best. Iyi sanslar.

[@tatjana7008]

Congrats to you! I have the same reason to not stay here, I don't want my child to suffer. They say Americans are racists, but I had only good experience with them and was treated as human, not as "Asian". Sure there are racist people, but you have allies who would help you. Its not the case here, nobody cares what happens to you

[@sm3675]

​@@tatjana7008cities like Minneapolis, Boston, Seattle, or Chicago are very welcoming.

[@jamesblack5864]

been in germany since august 2017, done B1 language course, integration course, test life in germany, then done one 6 months certification in metal field nd then done technical vocational degree in metallurgy as industrial mechanic. In jan 2021 got the degree as industrial mechanic frm IHK. Applied for job everywhere. Got 238 rejections in my inbox, since 2021 till now always worked as lowest wage jobs. During the technical vocational degree faced the worst racism frm those so called technical teachers. And right now working in supermarkt on minimum wage just to survive. Nuf said i think ,, liebe Grüsse aus Saarbrücken

[@ImamHossain-w1b]

It's so sad bro. I think u should migrate to US

[@cdiehr-xm3mc]

I think you should leave the Saarland, there are no jobs there.

[@swts4k]

I'm highly skilled, I have put out applications and still get rejected by German companies. Germany's lying about really wanting skills from abroad. Let them work for themselves.

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

The corporations want low skilled workers so they don’t have to pay Germans a real salary. That’s the truth. They don’t care that they’re destroying the country with mass immigration. Germans have a right to be upset.

[@kaltenorden]

They can't they don't have enough children 🥴🤣

[@balachandrakumarcs3845]

Good u getting rejected cause once u here u want to reject them

[@ashwath22]

I just moved back to the US after 2 years in Berlin. I spoke a little German, did my best to integrate into the city culture and gave it my best shot. Berlin is very interesting, food scene and summer scene is great! We loved the city. We left because all the “free” services were extremely inconvenient to access, housing is very difficult and very expensive for new immigrants, I experienced quite a bit of racism. Overall I have lived and worked in several cities in several countries, Germany did not feel friendly towards me in spite of my best efforts. I had the privilege of choice so I left.

[@ivanspellmeier2473]

You've done the right thing, 🇪🇺 is going down, and down. I'm thinking about the same, but I'll visit Florida and Texas before applying for a VISA.

[@blackbelt2000]

the US has its problems but many people don't realize how good they have it compared to other countries.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

You did well.

[@Mike-h8m]

Everything in USA is better than in Germany. Tell me 1x better country than USA.

[@yongeneki]

I do think that german people really seems unfriendly if we cannot speak German. after living here for more than 3 years while improving my German, I could understand German people better

[@aritramj]

I lived in Germany for my masters and found it to be one of the most hostile and aggressive places to land yourself in. I made up my mind at the end of the first year to leave this land forever after my masters, to never come back. This country needs a lot of skilled immigrants but the society is not ready yet and that you-know-what-I-mean feeling from age-old times still runs deep. It only deserves unskilled asylum seekers.

[@arbaz79]

Hostile in terms of racism and unwelcoming attitude?

[@Hypocritial]

Kudos to you

[@JohnJohnson-co3bn]

How good is your german? Because in my experience friend who didn’t speak german felt more discriminated than those who learned the language. If people can’t communicate with you then they won’t engage with you. But also Germans tend to be colder people. And of course there are still some racists (like in every other country).

[@Hypocritial]

@datteldiskussion4992 is that joke?

[@Hypocritial]

@datteldiskussion4992 Do you live in Germany? Are German? If not do you speak German,

[@RenatoCostaDev]

Highly skilled workers are indeed needed, but really not welcomed as members of the society. Housing is insane, and the so much touted education is in shambles, with teacher shortages in schools and Kitas and a mindset still firmly placed in the 1960s. It also surprises me that the medical system is so touted. After half a decade in this country, every single foreigner I've talked to has been mistreated, ignored or received the worst kind of service from the part of general doctors and hospitals alike. It is a disgrace.

[@TheNetQuest1]

The current German IT Market needs Superman, so he can do all types of work. He must be C1 Deutsche Sprache skills, at same time he can work on two to three position at a time, he may agree with a lowest salary as well. There are hundreds of hundreds people searching for jobs, but still not getting the jobs.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

This is why I went back to my birthplace in Southern Italy. I am drinking an Aperol Spritz and enjoying a real summer.

[@rochester212]

Slaves don't need salaries, that's what you don't understand. But the germans get it, hence the misunderstanding.

[@rochester212]

​@@FreeWanderingThinkerHey Mario, i like Italy but the price of pizza has gone through the roof in the last two years. I think Meloni should do something about this.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

@rochester212 Not where I live. Here the price stayed the same. I don't know where you buy your pizza.

[@Mr.UmairMalik]

Comment section is so demotivating and heart breaking because I want to expand my career in Germany through Ausebildung/or vocational training but I am also student of ACCA{Management and Accounting} from South Asia.

[@ollifrank6255]

I am a returning German, after 36 years abroad, and the greatest impact on me is how little friendly most people are, limited sense of humor, rigid closed mindset, and so much complaining. It’s even more frustrating when it’s your own country. I don’t know if it was always like that, but then I was a teenager. Of course, there are great people but what I mean is the general air specifically when you just arrived. The low wages and high taxes of course do not help, but I don’t think that’s the full story.

[@mehmetdereroberer5553]

It is because of weather and too much Papierkramm

[@vikas1520]

Please visit India... We have many Germans here, you are welcome.

[@smilgazolyte6696]

@@freds.8775 b2 is nothing. in general certificate levels show no real knowledge. in order to communicate properly with germans one must speak E1 (yeah, that does not exists)

[@Abim8]

It’s the mindset of Germans. I have lived here for 16 years. I can tell you a lot of Germans need to step out and see what life is outside there. The closed mindset is simply due to lack of exposure. They live in this enclosed place and believe life is best here and all other people are not as good as they are. That’s the problem

[@3n3rgy90]

@@Abim8 Germans go a lot on holiday. Don't act like Germans never leave the country. I was in 6 different countrys myself.

[@CK-og9vo]

Germany as a society never bothered to learn what is like to live with foreiners. The society doesnt think or care about learning or teaching reapect towards different culture. At first i thought its just a matter of time, but after over 10 yrs here i realised that they dont really 'intend' to accept this new segment of tax payers. They just 'try' to 'tolerate' AT BEST. Germany is so culturally behind. Missed entire 90s when other countries learn about globalisation and all, because the mighty Germany doesnt need anything other than glorious themselves who has everything and can provide everything themselves. I was never intend to settle down in Germany so i didnt bother so much, but seems to me they are missing out for those who came with intention of staying.. shame.

[@francisgene3890]

I am an ICU nurse working here since 2018. I interact with people on a daily basis. At first, I struggled with the language and people here were nasty but I thought it's because I can't speak the language well. But as my german improved, I realized that people here are just generally racist. No matter how "integrated" you are and how well you speak the language, if you are brown you will never get the least amount of respect that you deserve. Bureaucracy is crazy and very "stone age". Food is horrible. Everything is expensive. Worst decision ever to come and work here. To the nasty germans that would say, "then leave the country!", we will. Now that we have some return of investment from the time spent learning German, we are ready to move on.

[@annmaria322]

True ,has a cocky attitude towards everyone one ,but the problem is they don't realise it,it in their culture.

[@dharmoslap]

It's best to earn some savings here, stay in Germany for a few years, and then move on. This place isn't ready to retain or accomadate educated and skilled professionals in the long-term.

[@ladasm594]

Germany has invested a lot in positive public image, but NOT in making that positive image a living reality.

[@mayp1002]

@@annmaria322 I'm sorry to hear that, 🥲I'm also a nurse and come from a Southeast Asian country and have never really been treated badl. somehow I've always had great experiences with Germans. Germans don't treat people so affectionately, they are very direct, which I sometimes prefer. Hopefully you will have a better time wherever you go.💪

[@fsantos199]

​@@mayp1002I think it's because you're a light skin Asian and the person in the comment is brown. it plays a HUGE difference in treatment, considering how big racism is in the country.

[@sebastianyepes8154]

I have been living in Germany since 6 years and so far I have 1 German friend 😂, probably I'll get a new one in the next six years

[@ellebelle2507]

I am half German half British and even for me it was not easy visiting Germany and maintaining friendships as they all had strong groups since childhood!

[@fernandovillafuerte2529]

Do you behave civilized? …

[@__s__tatic]

Its not linear

[@sebastianyepes8154]

True, you have to be in the "Kita" to have future friends

[@sebastianyepes8154]

@@__s__tatic 😅

[@milhad.salihi]

After 5 years in Germany, I can say that this is a country of 2 societies - native one and immigrant one. They do not interact with one another, apart from government services. Otherwise, you get your hair cut, your car fixed and your social interactions with the members of "your" society. So much for feeling welcome here... Prices have gone up, salaries did not, do not expect financial welfare here. I can no longer recommend Germany to my fellow IT friends - they can earn similar wages in their home country with significantly lower living costs, and also get to live fulfilled lives with their loved ones. Germany leads to depressive isolation. The only people considering the move are the ones who are on the brink of poverty in their home countries, so they have to try and solve their existential problems. However, those are not the highly skilled workers Germany is apparently looking for. I also doubt the "shortage" is really true, considering how many companies insist on C1 level for non-customer facing IT roles, where everyone speaks English anyway.

[@SteffenWernicke]

No. 3 Societies: West Germans, east Germans and immigrants. East germans are lower than immigrants in west germany.

[@dantesparda7719]

@@SteffenWernicke That is not true. The three societies are Germans, legal immigrants, and illegal immigrants on welfare.

[@mariniitaa95]

Working in Germany is overrated

[@persiathiest1963]

Same with Austria

[@PetrM-77]

@@persiathiest1963 Not exactly, Germany is even more overrated

[@mahamzahid7846]

I’m a student that’s just started their studies in Berlin, a multicultural city (by Germany’s standards), and I already don’t see myself staying here long term enough to want to work let alone settle down here. This is despite the fact that I’ve already invested a lot of time learning the language to C1 level. I can already tell it’s going to be a depressing next few years until my degree ends.

[@Abdullah_the_Palestinian]

Why ? I am curious. I am currently learning german because I also want to study and for free

@@Abdullah_the_Palestinian اخوك فلسطيني اصحك تروح ع المانيا ادرس بفلسطين احسنلك التعليم مش كويس هون و الحياة مملئة و كئيبة

[@irfanaanjum5526]

Is that the case? I was planning to enroll in a German university as I always heard good about it, Also, so many Indian/pakistani KZbinrs glamorized studying in Germany.

[@Fahadgermany7]

Exactly yaar , these youtubers are just bullshits, reality is far different than online videos , I am planning to leave soon​@@irfanaanjum5526

[@mahamzahid7846]

@@Abdullah_the_Palestinian it honestly depends on what you’re looking to get out of it. Education might be decent and for that sure you can go and study maybe even get work experience, but for the long term it’s just very hard to become part of the society there or be accepted as one of them. Maybe you find a community of expats or people from your own country and are okay with living in just that bubble but often times expats tend to move and you lose that group over the years as well.

[@TheRomanianfalcon]

Germany is not an attractive country for a skilled immigrant. I lived in Germany for almost 3 years and what I encountered was for a very high taxes, you get very bad public services. I paid for that "free" health insurance the maximum 450 euros, and the employee is paying the same amount 450 euros, so 900 euros monthly and what I got was waiting for an appointment for a skin doctor 8 months, for an eye-doctor 4 months and so on... Very high living cost, because as a skilled immigrant you will choose a top city, so half of your salary go directly to taxes, and the other half on your living cost and for that you get a old, empty appartment with no furniture inside, for which you need to compete with a lot of people. In the public institutions nobody speaks english, even at immigration department, a lot of briefs, bad digitalization, a lot of birocracy. If you are skilled immigrant, Germany is not a good choice, if you are poor, not educated, with a lot of children and not so much ambitions, Germany is the best country because it is a social(ist) state. After almost 3 years, despite learning German language by myself, I left Germany and this was one of the best decisions in my life.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

In most cases, apartments have no kitchen, you have to buy one.

[@ramaraokadiyala7787]

I agree that point about illegal Immigrant activities.

[@sunshinekiddy8212]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@virtualnico]

There are two ways to find an apartment in germany. You have to be very rich so you can easily afford the rents or you have to be poor/unemployed so the government will give you a nice social housing.

[@Flo-vn9ty]

@virtualnico only being rich works, because there is not enough social housing.

[@sonalich3125]

The job market in Germany is incredibly challenging. Despite what people often say online, there simply aren't enough job opportunities available. Even when openings exist, most companies require a B2 or C1 level of German proficiency. Achieving this level of fluency within 2-3 years, while also balancing the demands of studying and completing a degree, is an unrealistic expectation for most students. Note, It's no joke to pursue a degree in Germany. It's a significant challenge on its own.

[@amanroy8447]

True!

[@smilgazolyte6696]

in what language do you study then if 2-3 years for a b2 is not enough? communication is the key and if you are not able to communicate with your colleagues there will be a lot of problems. therefore, learn the language. and b2 is nothing in reality. i am talking from my experience and being not german in Germany.

[@tamtamlourd7748]

@@sonalich3125 I know. I Camembert straitght from Afrika in 2005 at 19, learned German for 2 and half year, Washington dishes in the afternoon and nicht at hotels, and babysitting. Uni started at 23 until 30 , im a lawyer now in Luxemburg. Its easier to Start by learning the language.

[@sleeplesshead602]

It's true tho. While studying, I also need to make effort to reach B1 and to take the test It's not free at all 😢 idk what to do anymore, but at the same time I need job to support my life here, yet they require B1 at least to be considered. I'm so depressed right now 🥹🥲

[@Mr.UmairMalik]

Comment section is so demotivating and heart breaking because I want to expand my career in Germany through Ausebildung/or vocational training but I am also student of ACCA{Management and Accounting} from South Asia.

[@DM-ot2gw]

People move to Germany for a specific quality of life promised. What you ACTUALLY get is trains being late for 2+ hours being a norm, drugs being sold and consumed in the middle of Cologne, police being not interested in any local disturbances, any appointments taking forever to get, level of service (cafe, cosmetics, nails etc.) is extremely weak even comparing to neighbor countries, garbage everywhere on the streets, packages being not delivered to the door but left wherever in the house...the list goes on. Germany today is not the Germany 10 years ago, This is not a country of choice for highly qualified professionals, thanks to the politics which makes both the lives of locals and foreigners a nightmare.

[@andrewnaeem482]

Imagine learning a difficult language to fluency in order to live among asocial people.

[@Beebediibupap]

Wow wow wow... Chill! German here: Who said that we weren't asocial? No one! In Germany, people have always been like that. A lot of people worldwide just started to claim that Germany was the place to be for work, living etc. just because our country has been economically thriving for so long - and people started coming. No German ever wanted people to come from other countries to work here in the first place. These initiatives only came from companies and politics.

[@mho...]

we are direct , no nonesense people, for the most part, wich might come off as "mean" and if you dont like that, no1 forces you to be here! but apart from that, we welcome everyone & are happy live together! but we also wish for those who decide to live among us to adapt & atleast learn the language and well......be german! being german is not just living here & still do your outlandish things/rituals! but live with us instead of beside us!

[@patbenz4327]

@@mho... Who in their right mind wants to go to Germany? And be forced to learn that weird language of yours?

[@alchemist_one]

@@mho... And yet the Germans I meet here in Taipei often don't learn the language even after a decade and still persist in doing their "outlandish things/rituals".

[@mmarques2736]

​@@Beebediibupap tell us you don't understand what makes the German economy/industry great, without telling us you don't understand what makes the German economy/industry great:

[@wilhelmvanbabbenburg8443]

I knew perfect German and didn't feel welcomed, so it's not the language, it's racism

[@barrylyndon80]

From which country are you?

[@wilhelmvanbabbenburg8443]

@@barrylyndon80 why isit relevant?

[@miventania8666]

Also have C1, racism has always been there. Even the language is full of racism.

[@freds.8775]

​@@wilhelmvanbabbenburg8443I also wanted to know that part of your story, nothing personal from the guy who asked, sometimes the locals prefer some nationalities. I have seen this phenomenon in France: two students, one mexican and the other american-mexican; but the locals (specially girls) wanted to talk mostly with the american-mexican about Hollywood, New York and that BS. But among the same people in France, japanese had a really bad fame (specially among girls). I can say french people in that city were really racist 😅 *I didn't notice his name before, so 'Wilhelm van Babbenburg' who speaks perfect german, then probably he is from Austria, Switzerland or Netherlands (google search says he is from the latter)

[@judyroth5461]

​@@barrylyndon80None of your bizz

[@msiddiqui135]

I lived in Germany for 4 years and it was terrible, You are always an outsider and people never accept you. The German language is essential, I left Germany and moved to London and feel happy here as it is a truly multicultural city.

[@PaulieWalnuts-k5w]

Germany doesn't have a labor shortage. Currently 700.000 open positions vs. 2,6 million unemployed. If corporations need skilled labor, they should start training people, and pay them a fair salary.

[@rochester212]

Since when do slaves need wages? A slave only needs two meals a day and a shack to live in, Germany has that.

[@PaulieWalnuts-k5w]

@@rochester212 Not anymore, because we are slowly running out of shacks.😂

[@paritoshgahlan3636]

Who will pay for their training? Market does not want to train people and then see them leaving for better pay . So it’s always the skilled people business looks for

[@PaulieWalnuts-k5w]

@@paritoshgahlan3636 Its globalization. It's just cheaper to import skilled people from abroad, than investing in local training. Germany always prides itself with the dual "Ausbildung" system, but fewer and fewer companies actually offer it.

[@douglas5097]

Companies won't do that. That's crazy. That's up to the government or each individual.

[@rohanbansal9563]

I have worked in Australia, Europe - UK and Germany before moving to the US for my master's degree and worked there for many years. Then moved to India and then to Canada. If you are a tech worker, there is no country in the world more accepting than the United States. Period. In US, people respect your talent than what ethnic background or linguistic background you have. People are more tolerant and accepting, and even let you go up the ladder. Thats why many Indian CEO are leaving US companies while Americans don't mind. Europeans and Australians are the most racist people I have encountered, who have little to no empathy even towards highly skilled workers paying heavy tax in their county. It is better to work for your whole life in the United States on work visa, than living in Australia/Europe/Canada as their citizens.

[@TheAdriZam]

This is all politcally driven. There are actually very few jobs available. There are hundred of applications at very job ad posted by all the companies I know. I keep asking HR people, where are all these advertised jobs in channels like this? Can DW actually make a study on this? I literally know also many German students who struggle on getting their first jobs, taking up to 1 year.. DW please explain this huge discrepancy

[@buddy1155]

Companies do not want to hire local, much cheaper to import.

[@lucaschaka5324]

Exactly its all politically driven.

[@TheAdriZam]

of course low salaries is one reason why they even lower the salary requirements for this opportunity card to super low wages. The other e remains that i see even skilled germans getting jobs... Many of them are going abroad instead

[@terranowa2080]

Each job offer is advertised multiple times that's the problem

[@leventelajos5078]

students are not considered to be skilled workers

[@danielMN]

I have a friend who left Dubai for a promising life in German. He is a highly skilled Data analyst and programmer (with distinction and vast experience). Upon landing in Germany, the system couldn't employ him citing lots of beauracratic paper work and language. He was forced to work for peanuts at Amazon warehouse. As I speak he left a month ago to the USA, now he has found his dream job already. I shared an apartment with him in Prinzenstr, Alt Mariendorf in Berlin. I am not saying that US is better than Germany, but looking at this scenario you can make your own conclusions... To Germans: use your brain, prioritise whats important for your economic survival

[@kalindiya]

So problematic for skilled professional and illegal immigrants find it so easy

[@bresophil]

The problem is there is nothing the population can do. The rot is deep in government and all institutions

[@tameemmohammed6906]

Simply - West countries are collapsing economically.

[@captainchaoscow]

We need Amazon and Amazon delivery drivers. I see no problem.

[@ladasm594]

​@@tameemmohammed6906 It's not just economic situation in Germany, it's also mindset of local population. Did you hear about software issues at Volkswagen? Their car models are being delayed year after year. So in the end it's better to work here as Amazon delivery guy than getting hired as a software specialist. Most people don't like to deal with clueless management.

[@dharmoslap]

This video is actually a bit mystifying, as it shows 2 persons who are planning to stay here and only 1 person who is planning to leave. While statisticaly at least half of immigrants aren’t staying here for longer than 2 - 5 years, not accounting for asylum seekers.

[@venki1349]

Worked with Germans in London and had experienced passive racism. I would suggest people to try in USA, UK, Australia which are far better than Germany in terms of safety and security.

[@Nmbongeni]

The US is 💩DNT even bother the UK is going down hill as well

[@birukbogale4433]

All the issues I saw on this video is very very much true. This is what the real Germany is. Most of the skilled workers here are considering leaving and many left to USA UK and Canada. It is real.

[@dharmoslap]

There are a few non-English speaking countries that are certainly better choice for foreigners than Germany, such as Netherlands or whole Scandinavia.

[@ladasm594]

If you have options, it's best to leave. It's naive to hope for any fast improvements in Germany.

[@Mr.UmairMalik]

Comment section is so demotivating and heart breaking because I want to expand my career in Germany through Ausebildung/or vocational training but I am also student of ACCA{Management and Accounting} from South Asia.

[@ManuelaJäger-k8u]

You think it is easier? Uk, USA, and Canada have similar issues.

[@Kimchiwurst]

I came to germany 5 years ago. Learned the language, did an Ausbildung and BELIEVE ME, tried my best to become a part of the society but the society is shut closed COMPLETELY. People are very unwelcoming and they all stick to their 'own group of people' - not only germans but also immigrants from the middle east. They love catergorizing social status and are deeply condecsending. In addition, it feels like germans don't want people who are eager to climb the ladder and eventually become a higher level employee but they rather want someone who would just stay in the entry level position who would do all the unnecessary repeatitive work that no one wants to do. Because of this tendency, I see a lot of managing level employees who are disgustingly incompetent but are only there just because of what they are (if you know what I mean). But again, these are just based on my experience and maybe it's just how it is only in the city I'm living in :).

[@Ingrid-wf4cl]

The work in most jobs is repeatative .That doesn`t make it unnecessary.

[@tatjana7008]

my whole dept is nor competent neither hard-working, but they are like children to my chef, so ... meanwhile I'm Cinderella, because I don't look like his daughter

[@bfrey9094]

Germany is often unwelcoming for germans to, if they move from one region to another.

[@minhochoi7823]

Hey, maybe you are korean living in Germany like me, when my guess is correct. I am living in Germany for 11 years, graduated middle, highschool, now majoring maths in Frankfurt but I have the feeling I am so isolated in compare to life in South Korea. I never had problems making friends, even not in Germany but I always notice that there is a german group, turkish group, chinese group, even korean group too and its hard for individual person making friends. Often the people see a korean man in me but not me. Maybe I am leaving at some point but lets try our best, until we live in Germany, until we represent koreans, kudos !

[@kawan5851]

I work for a German company and currently residing in Germany. I whole heartedly agree with you.

[@eliotness4029]

I have the same salary in Poland as in Germany. work the same. company the same. salary the same. but cost of living in Germany much much more. the same food in Poland in Lidl cheaper than in Germany for 15-20%. so why to go in Germany? no reason

[@rytiss.5205]

Exactly. For people from Poland, the Baltics, Czechia, Slovakia, etc. there is no point in going to Germany, since in the end they save more in their home countries and the economies of their countries are on the track to keep booming for many years to come while the future in Germany seems very murky.

[@SonnyDarvish]

I keep hearing this about Poland and I'm glad that the Polish that have lived in Germany realize this.

[@mabel9701]

@@SonnyDarvishthey’re still everywhere in Germany 😂

[@rucky_665]

No way, wages in Poland are very low. No wonder they move to other countries

[@andriibakhtiozin4477]

property prices are skyrocketing in Poland. 3-4k USD per square meter in Krakow if you invest in flat that is not even build yet.

[@enriquegabriel7708]

I went to Germany. Compared to other European countries, Germany felt "stuck" in the 90s.

[@IoT_]

Italy is no better

[@evelynkwagala9732]

Did you mean 60s?

[@ladasm594]

@@IoT_ Italy is perhaps the only example where digitalisation and bureaucracy are as inefficient as in Germany.. everyone else in the EU is ahead

[@IoT_]

@@ladasm594 Spain is the same, maybe as well as Portugal

[@ladasm594]

@@IoT_ Spain and Portugal are both ahead of Germany in the rankings, but that doesn't mean that they both wouldn't still have things to improve.. it's Scandinavia and Baltics who are clear leaders

[@rucky_665]

Health insurance is not free. 350 euros was deducted from my salary monthly. That was in 2016. How is that free?

[@rochester212]

It costs $1000 just to call an ambulance in the US. Good luck, cowboy.

[@charlievetta1385]

@@rochester212 Actually, $350 a month is what average family pays for health insurance in America. You can get a cheaper plan but will only cover 1-2 E.R visits, or a couple of Dr. appts. If you get the $120 plan per month it’s best to use social services for health that give you a price based on income.

[@NairaKa]

@@rochester212 German people pay more in total..

[@hugochavez6170]

​@@rochester212. Is there no health insurance in the US?

[@herp_derpingson]

350? It took like 20% of my income with a total of 43% taxes

[@nouraal6098]

Germany is the only country in the world where "you are a guest here!!" is a threat. That says enough. If they could, they'd have "Gastarbeiter" again, low wages, treated badly, isolate and then send back.

[@chrissy4957]

As a german born asian, the first sentence resonated with me so much. It is so accurate. It’s even worse for me bc I’m not even a guest, I was born here but look like one. That goes to show that it doesn’t matter how integrated someone is, you’ll be treated like 2nd class citizen as long as you look foreign enough.

[@Dgaf001]

The level of institutionalized racism here is mind-blowing. I came here for my masters. For context, I am an African female so I experience racism mixed with sexism often(a very draining combination) Anyway, after less than 2 months in a German university, i realised I wasn't at all welcome. I never got the grades I deserved and after several shocking exam results were released, i decided to challenge their decision and call for my exam scripts. Voila! Turned out I was right! I was being evaluated much harsher than my classmates. I'm still so grateful to my Indian friends who gave their consent for the inquiry board to compare the grading scheme used on the rest of the class to mine! Ever since that incident, I see the hate in their eyes, especially from my German classmates who are angry at me for demanding my rights. I've lost interest in this country ever since and can't wait to graduate and go somewhere else. DON'T COME HERE as a skilled immigrant or student! My school fees and every expense incurred to get this education is a huge waste! The quality of education is also shocking and shameful!

[@Christoph399]

I have a distinction bachelor degree, speak fluently English and Chinese, B1+ German, B1 French. (I'm not Chinese) Still I can not get a job in my field in Germany. However it will be easy for me if I work as a care giver in nursing homes in Germany. So when the German government is saying "Germany needs skilled workers", what they actually mean is: "they need people to do the work the locals don't wanna do".

[@swts4k]

You got that absolutely 💯 right

[@Christoph399]

@swts4k yeah it's like that everywhere on Earth, on every aspect (economics, politics, etc). The game of power.

[@PetrM-77]

@@Christoph399 Nope, it's certainly not like there everywhere

[@Christoph399]

@@PetrM-77 I really wish to see more of what you say, because this is really sad.

[@TanishMishra-g2g]

As an international student, I'm studying in a uni of applied sciences, I have a German friend whom I am teaching English, because I'm fluent in English. There was a mandatory subject in our course regarding English. I know my friend, he cannot speak 2 sentences in English without making a single grammatical error, and he admits that. Still somehow the teacher gave him 80% in the English exam, and gave me 63% in the exam. I saw the grading, his grading was extremely lenient and mine was extremely harsh. Even my German friend said that he's surprised with the grading and thinks it's unfair. So these are the reasons I don't wish to stay in Germany. If you want skilled immigrants to contribute to your social system and boost your economy, the least you could do is be nice to us.

[@vikas1520]

Similar experience in job too. A German even he does not know subject well and is Slow, will be promoted... but you even speaking german, will not be

[@nyasha_duri]

Do you mean in English without making a single grammatical error?

[@TanishMishra-g2g]

@@nyasha_duri Yes that's correct. Excuse the typo, I've corrected it.

[@Meowie765]

Bruh this is text book racism ? Did you try reporting this incident ?

[@dharmoslap]

Did you try to complain about this at your uni? This shouldn't be even allowed, and there must be a way to report this.

[@Denamber-69]

Only when you try to apply for any work visa in Germany will you realize how bad the system is. It is stuck in the 1950s.

[@jantube358]

@@Denamber-69 Isn't it much easier to get a work visa for Germany than for the US? I looked at the visa requirements for the US a few years ago and I couldn't afford them.

[@max4music-www]

@@jantube358 What type of VISA did you check?

[@thedarkslide]

As a German national who married a Chinese national, we have left Germany more than 8 years ago. We left because: 1. Income opportunities and career opportunities in Germany in my line of work (IT) were mediocre. 2. Taxation (including Sozialabgaben) was unacceptable. Services available in return were mediocre (e.g., waiting more than 4 months to get an appointment with a neurologist). The pension system is one large Ponzi scheme. 3. Building wealth and owning real estate on a single income is basically impossible. 4. My Chinese spouse faced frequent discrimination and racism in everyday life - in Hamburg, which is supposedly known to be modern, diverse and open. 5. The German weather, culture, lifestyle opportunities and attitude was not attractive to us. We felt trapped and limited. We wanted to have more freedom. We've been living in the US Pacific Northwest since and are very happy here (and a lot more successful with our economic goals as well). Good luck in Germany!

[@PratikMukerjee]

biggest issue is racism in east germany especially people are still stuck in 1970s mindset problem is germany has globalised and advanced but the people haven't really while in the US both people and country has advanced parallely

[@Abigail-nc6in]

Thanks for your honest comment. I wish you both all the best!

[@Gfghb-u7w]

Also skilled Germans are leaving or do not return. Bad salaries, bad infrastructure, bad healthcare. No English, lack of digitalization, …

[@bifdiogo]

I am a senior developer from Brazil living in Berlin since 2022, I have lots of friends from other countries too and the most frequent complainings are about the inflation on living costs, mainly about how hard and expensive it is to get a decent place here. There is a feeling that people are not feeling that safe here too, but still safer than most of other countries around the world. At the end, money talks louder. If you are having a good life and are being able to save something you feel great, if you are just living to cover the expenses the small things starts to feel bigger than they are.

[@dharmoslap]

The housing crisis has recently made Germany unlivable country! That's not even coming from AfD.

[@davidkanizsai9914]

So funny when immigrants complain about high living cost. Who forced your friends to go and live in Germany? Nobody. They can go to Venezuela or Iran or Russia. No one is stopping them. Stop complaining and start being grateful that another country gave you people opportunities.

[@flopunkt3665]

Berlin is in the east. West Germany has higher salaries.

[@dharmoslap]

@@flopunkt3665 Not necessarily anymore, depends on industry and position. As a senior developer in Berlin you can sometimes make 80-85k a year, that’s on pair with west Germany.

[@PetrM-77]

If you are only here 2 years now, you'll need to stay in Germany few more years to really see disadvantages of local society. But hopefully by then you will have enough savings to just move on, and not to get disappointed or unhappy. Wishing you good luck!

[@o0o892]

Safe to skip to 16:05 Germany either needs to change their terms on accepting new workforce by being actually English friendly on street level, or they need to enforce language skill level BEFORE people actually arriving here. It is either that or the other there is no middle ground here. Unless one or the other actually happens problem will just continue, my guess this is indefinite. Because government is not interested to solve problems for so long. Germany needs people like Ozan the most as he has the most similarity to Germans who emigrate Germany (talented, well educated, world citizen, knows the market around the region). People like them don't hold themselves down and just to accept the fact that Germany is at best being an average country. So they just move on. The other two examples have already too much to lose (wife and kids, and husband) and they are here just to survive.

[@nahidshaiket9921]

I am from Bangladesh. I did my masters here and working full time with a blue card visa. It will take for my wife and daughter to get a visa appointment in Bangladesh 24 months minimum. It is super sad and everyday I am getting more and more depressed. And the ambassador there does not even care. He keeps saying they have staff shortage and it has going on since the covid. Do you think I would feel welcomed? Of course no. To be honest, I would not probably plan to stay for too long myself.

[@PouryaHosseini]

Another skill worker here. Although Germany provides you with a relative basic life, definitely it is not a good place for skilled workers and worse it will not motivate you to be better and try for higher places. In a word it will nullify your dreams and ambitions. So my recommendation: use it as your first step to reach to higher places.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

Yes, true. My dream of pursuing an academic career died there. Their system makes motivated people sick and depressed.

[@user-odobinggo]

​@@FreeWanderingThinkerI also surprised that high grade German master students did not know basic physical laws, like maxwell equations, bandgap, berry's phase etc. I cannot imagine such situation in my country.

[@Abigail-nc6in]

@@FreeWanderingThinker Sorry to hear that! But you're not alone, believe me.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

@@user-odobinggo Yes, true. As a postdoc in physics in a German excellence university, I used to teach electromagnetism and write the exam questions as well. Sometimes they were so easy, that they already contained part of the answer. It felt so weird.

[@FreeWanderingThinker]

@@Abigail-nc6in Thanks!!

[@theoneandonlyjoanna]

I am currently looking for a job outside of germany. I want to leave. They don't pay enough, housing prices are getting out of control, the weather sucks, 10 months per year you don't see the sun, and germans are not social. All my close friends are foreigners.

[@kaiserleo1383]

but at least u have friends my friend is still your comment😂😂😂

[@haoplus-en7if]

When you arrive at the Frankfurt airport, you can already sense the unwelcoming atmosphere at the customs. So why bother.

[@auburnrose9534]

I once had a layover there and even in that short amount of time was in shock at how rude they were, especially when going through security!

[@kaiserleo1383]

@@haoplus-en7if yes so true i thought its all like that in EU until i transfered in amsterdam last week

[@papyrider2830]

I am skilled worker, 10+ sales years experience, workin‘ for a huge german company, I speak fluently german, I did my best to integrate myself and my family here, no chance, in December we are leaving, no chance to feel yourself welcomed in this country, no matter where you are coming from, what is your job, study level,in there eyes, you are inferior.

[@mehmetdagtekin2273]

So after 10 years you realize you are not welcome in germany?!

[@kaiserleo1383]

omg thats sad

[@merihseriz821]

I am a Turkish doctor who is living and working in Germany. Unfortunately I know already 3 doctor friends who want to work abroad. One of them works in a pharma company in France. The other one works in Switzerland. The third one wants to work in Denmark. It has also a negative affect on other doctors. When most of the friends are going, you are questioning yourself. You are asking yourself "should I go to, maybe I am making a mistake staying here, they will be happier und earn more money and do less" etc.

[@Huu159]

It is a monthly ritual to post 1 video about needing skilled immigrants

[@IvanLuelmo]

Maybe it is for people to understand that Europe needs skilled immigrants. Go figure.

[@kathylow6045]

And people staying here can't get a job even with advanced language skills. Just different ethnicity 🙃

[@Davao420]

maybe because the need is still there? And each video paints a larger context?

[@raywrightstone22]

Yeah because its accurate and its important to talk about. Was ist das problem?

[@rytiss.5205]

yes, and they will keep posting them because Germany will remain unattractive destination and there is basically nothing being done to change that

[@CarlosOrellana-jo9bv]

I lived in Germany for 10 years. I think it's the best country to live in socially (education, health care, jobs). The bureaucracy you can handle it. I finished my Master's degree before the COVID19 started and it was SOOO difficult to get a job since after that they wanted only native German speakers (before with English was OK) - and I do speak really good German. But then my friends started to have problem with racism and some people were not nice - and then all my friends left. I felt so alone. Furthermore, I met people who had a prosperous professional life but they were living alone in nice, big apartments. And old people were living all lone - I didn't want that and I took my decision to leave. Berlin and other German cities are amazing but it's only for a while. Germany is not for everybody - you need to know where are you going.

[@m389nkfpe03]

Norway much better

[@mahamedhassen-vi6sm]

Germany is not for everybody - you need to know where are you going. thats wisdom

[@captainchaoscow]

Everybody left? That's strange - you have the feeling that more and more people are coming. And that'S what the statistics said as well.

[@ladasm594]

@@captainchaoscow Yeah, more people are coming according to statistics. But it's actually only Romanians and Indians who have positive migration flow in Germany, not accounting for asylum seekers. Other nationalities more less fluctuate, because for every person coming there is another one that's leaving.

[@CarlosOrellana-jo9bv]

@@m389nkfpe03 I do believe you

[@cw_edits14]

But you need to speak the language and you need to be a rocket scientist for them to even consider your application.

[@meetimian3383]

So true If they really really want skill workers then why is it so so difficult to get a job??

[@subhoseal7650]

Agreed I faced the similar situation

[@myspace1876]

They allow illegal immigration. Try that method.

[@tommykaung5882]

A rocket scientist? Really? What is this? Reverse Operation Paperclip?

[@CreWa_President]

Hahaha rocket scientist! Completely agree

[@shilpisharan8135]

Myself working and living in Germany since last 3 years as a blue card holder IT professional. To this date, I have made 0 contacts in germany, making friends here is a far fetched dream. People just don't even look at a stranger person of colour. To them, we are auslanders who are not fit to integrate in their so called german culture. The housing crunch and slow lathargic medical system makes Germany even less attractive. The government needs to understand that not everyone from different parts of the world can learn German. The IT professionals don't get enough time to even look after their health during day to day office activities, on top of it, they are asked to learn german post office hours. Its too much for me.

[@arnaroghael8565]

Its funny how forigners expect that natives will immediately befriend them, locals don't care about immigrants some locals don't even want imigrants in ther communities, the only people who want immigrants are greedy employers and government to collect tax, and this is personal experience from white eastern European who worked in Germany, but rest of Europe is same.

[@ladasm594]

@@arnaroghael8565 It's not that difficult to befriend locals in US, Australia, Sweden or Denmark. If you have only lived and worked in just one country, your experience might be limiting, as Germany is just on a different level. But even here are some exceptions, depends on the city / region.

[@BruceWayne_213]

I am a Filipino nurse and i am single. I've been working here since 2017. It's like i am not having that much or should i say enough. I am spending almost half of my salary just for monthly rent and common necessities. The living cost here are high and the wages are low and not mentioning the number of taxes that will drain you. But what i don't undertsand most is Germany currently rank as 3rd largest economy but it's not even included in Top 10 nations with highest salary for nurses. Now i recently passed the NCLEX exam for the US, and i know it's not just me there's a lot of us who's in the same boat and YES,..maybe it is time to leave Germany soon..

[@rytiss.5205]

That's exactly the point. German economy is so large only because of the cheap labor. That's what former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder called the "competitive advantage of Germany". It's basically having a massive economy that serves one single purpose, namely enriching the economic and financial elites, leaving everyone else working for nothing. How Germany managed to prevent its people from simply leaving the country is beyond my imagination.

[@obienugreat4590]

Trust me when u reach the US u will be saying the exact same thing , the US is even worse go and check people's experiences and life in the US right now u will understand

[@annielivesineurope2234]

I think nurses make a higher salary in the United States than in Germany! Good luck 😊

[@crepinMezong]

yeah , i as well as an eng. im leaving germany to australia sick of this already

[@quasimodo8215]

I wish you all the best but please consider the idea of living in Sweden or Norway. In my opinion you could have much more life quality and security. US would be the last choice for me. Daumen hoch!

[@Vbsuv]

It is fairly simple. If you want to compete with the US and Australia for skilled immigrants, switch to the default language of the world. Else, compete with dying economies like France and Japan. Stop treating top talents like asylum seekers.

[@juremustac3063]

Bingo!

[@JohnJohnson-co3bn]

So your saying countries should adopt the language the biggest immigrant group speaks? Why isn’t the US adopting spanish then? I don’t think there are high paying jobs in the US that say: „ no need to speak english, we will switch to spanish“.

[@Vbsuv]

@@JohnJohnson-co3bn I don't say that the country has to ditch their language for the majority immigrant groups but support ENGLISH. I'm not saying Germany or France has to adopt Arabic. English is the default language of the world.

[@captainchaoscow]

Let'e see if the US and Australia will switch to Mandarin or Hindi in a couple of years.

[@Vbsuv]

@@captainchaoscow no they won't. That's the point. Instead, India and China will switch to English. English is the official language of India alongside Hindi. And China is quickly adopting English language, despite the communist government and brain drain. Nobody wants to work in either of those countries tho.

[@sammyadas7539]

And no one talks about the racism that we face here, been here for 7 years and I regret every part of it. Not because I cannot handle it, but because it changed me as a person. Slowly and steadily you become machine by living here and the people are not welcoming at all.

[@LMcBee]

Why not leave?

[@trinleywangmo]

@@LMcBee Probably, they live paycheck to paycheck and can't escape...

[@parshuram0711]

True, if you feeling unwelcoming even after 7 years, which is a reasonable time for achieving your goals to move there, why not move out ?

[@Ghostrider-ul7xn]

​@@parshuram0711Please stop questioning why people aren't moving out. Everyone has their own personal or financial reasons to stay wherever they are, despite not feeling welcomed.

[@beautifulmoster1988]

My parents told me after i spend 1 month holidays in my homeland , you have become too cold and you dont react at the time, then i realised i should leave Germany more often.

[@glaz0]

Coming from LATAM to Germany sounds like a journey. You must feel like a real alien among people that wouldn't EVER accept a coffee and some chit-chat.

[@christopheranokam]

This is the USA speaking, if you are a skilled immigrant come to the USA we will work with you on your language and we will welcome you with open arms.

[@stotimislisotome830]

Well, ask Trump and more than half of US citizans which condemn every immigrant arriving to US ground, legaly or illegaly!

[@bimDe2024]

It is really challenging, whenever you look at Germans' eye, you will get the vibe of unwelcomeness, and always feel outsiders.

[@Cryptid71]

I hate to say it but if it's Germany that needs the $400,000 workers then they need to be a little more friendly and they need to be a little more open to foreign languages. I do not think it's the only way around. If it's Germany that needs the mass immigration then beggars cannot be choosers

[@kia_tb4231]

Systematic racism is a part of the system. I am a civil servant scientist working in a French lab. Before joining my new position, I worked 6 months at KIT which is considered top 3 ranked university in Germany. The way I was treated was not right for me. I am a dutch citizen who worked in academia in different countries, including Japan, US. The only place I faced racism at academic level was Germany. The head of group allows him/herself to infer into your personal life just because they can fire you anytime they want. The only country which has 6 months of probation is Germany, nowhere else keeping you like a hostage to shape you as their slave and if you do not obey, you are fired. Sorry but Germans are the ones taling their country down big time. They gotta first how to not live in WW2. They feel yet as if they are a better race and others just modern slaves.