Why Submarine Battle Is Extremely Tricky

[@ivanmatz5812]

Let's be clear, this only applies to WWII submarine battles. Modern submarines engage targets VERY differently.

[@myleslin6737]

But this is a WWII submarine....

[@arnavroy3383]

Ivan Matz this submarine was made in 1941

[@082siddharthapatra5]

This is a uboat

[@omarragab2916]

Siddhartha Patra it is not a U-Boat because I’ve never seen a nazi speak English

[@EgonEkorre]

Omar Ragab sure we have

[@24kRobot]

The smithsonian channel puts out smithsonian quality videos. So much history packed into a well produced and highly entertaining show.

[@helaodinsmommy]

"The worst thing than seeing a submarine in your sonar is not seeing one" Captain Chandler from last ship

[@robbieaulia6462]

Not if the submarine is an allied one

[@ninety9960]

0:54 captain is being super-judged for missing

[@commentator4ever498]

The captain does not fire it The crew does it but the captain “orders” them to fire it.

[@RA-el6zj]

😂

[@nigeh5326]

I must admit I have admiration for any nations submariners it takes a special kind of courage to do their job.

[@dubiousdoublechin6363]

Where I am it's a high needs job, as in they want volunteers. I wouldn't and even if I could I am too tall for submarines. I'd imagine you certainly need guts for that kind of work

[@doogleticker5183]

Yep. Lots of courage. Personally, I think the worst military job is infantry.

[@ae4164]

Doogle Ticker Don't be an ass, he obviously wasn't saying other people are pussies for not being in a submarine. But you've got a lot better chance of survival if your surface ship is sunk vs. if your submarine is. Not to mention the potential for getting stuck or damaged without even receiving enemy fire. Read some of the horror stories of people who have survived sub disasters or were just forced to stay submerged for days at a time, I'll take a bullet over the torture of that.

[@doogleticker5183]

Gen Erik - What crawled into your bed last night. He may have a point!

[@ae4164]

Doogle Ticker You continue to put words in his mouth that he never said, that they need a pat on the back for their self esteem. I'm sorry your sensitivities were insulted by me saying you were being an ass. Have mommy put a bandaid on where it hurts.

[@stevenmoore4612]

The U-boats crews of WW2 had some astonishing accomplishments even with the difficulties of sub warfare!

[@slothgarage4846]

U Boats are specifically German by the way

[@RossFennell]

I feel like modern torpedos have plenty of tracking technology to just be fired as a Hail Mary

[@Taebs]

not only the modern torpedos. 30-50 years back they weren't "stupid straight forward" also.

[@madscientistme]

haha, this is a cute way of describing them, small but deadly.

[@SouravBagchigoogleplus]

Torpedo seeks the sound like SAM missile. But there are many counter devices which can distract torpedo.

[@Theinatoriinator]

the ww2 ones had tracking tech. but, it was so faulty it could turn around, lock on and destroy the same submarine that fired it.

[@mariaesquivel6217]

Wahoo

[@sinecurve9999]

On Eternal Patrol. RIP the sailors of the USS Wahoo.

[@sadams12345678]

It is WAHOO

[@sadams12345678]

IT IS WAHOO en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wahoo_(SS-238)

[@sadams12345678]

No, sorry

[@nb3775]

ARandomKZbinr cus its not funny u bitch

[@ailajadu575]

Can anyone say what happened to those Torpedoes which misses the target?

[@fortnutz-gaming8835]

How to sink a ship? Shout: the boat is sinking Grab a lifeboat

[@magnusb.20]

FortNutz - Gaming I don’t get it am I dumb please explain

[@wileyglass3324]

@@magnusb.20 bru

[@magnusb.20]

I’m sorry I just don’t know the joke

[@KxEwl]

@@magnusb.20 I THINK it’s a titanic meme

[@anthonykristoffersonalonzo658]

The patience of a submarine captain must have been tremendous.

[@Khadija-uj6gy]

I love this program and wish everyone in it happiness 🌹

[@HighDragon604]

I remember as a Canadian Royal Army Cadet, I once went on a trip where I got to tour inside of 2 commissioned submarines while they were docked and they showed us the giant torpedoes and said that each one costed like $1200 or more depending on what kind of torpedo it was

[@daleburrell6273]

...torpedoes have ALWAYS been expensive and complicated weapons-!!!

[@michaelcorbidge7914]

Those prices would've been 1960s era .

[@ingridclare7411]

They cost more than that...

[@Zach1221]

While torpedoes are expensive, the things the Torpedo is destroying is more expensive than the torpedo itself

[@badbobbybadbobbyb5889]

This attack scene is also shown in 'Run Silent, Run Deep' with Clark Gable and Kirk Douglas. One correction, when the Captain ordered 'Fire 3', that meant fire the torpedo in tube #3.

[@stevenschuyler9527]

Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, badbobby. Great movie.

[@SaltiDawg2008]

No need for correction.... *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*

[@edhenderson1655]

The nerves of steel that this captain and crew had were legendary. The "Down The Throat" shot became this captain's standard method of attack. Highly risky, but Highly successful.

[@garnetstewart3461]

WWII US Navy submarines used a sophisticated device called the torpedo tracking computer to set the trajectory of torpedo's to their target.

[@clouddancersez7870]

Torpedo DATA Computer (TDC)

[@wahtx7717]

It doesnt track the ship, you input the data of the target and it creates a firing solution for you.

[@philiphugoofficial]

Finally a video from the smithsonian channel with an accurate, unexaggerated title

[@marcuschan5738]

Imagine just chilling in a boat then three torpedoes hit the boat

[@injusticeanywherethreatens4810]

The creation of depth charges and decreasing size of modern 'battleships' is also another factor.

[@marieelena]

hope the complete episode gets uploaded on this channel, this looks interesting!

[@kingpaganmin6907]

agreed

[@Blingo88]

There's a link in the description with a bit more info on the show, and when they are showing it on the Smithsonian (TV) channel, which I think is not a thing here in the UK. The show name is Hell Below - Episode 3: America Fights Back

[@NiumeLTU]

When destroyers take a torpedo hit It can attack him because he is going to slow to drop deapth charges

[@izaicslinux6961]

Just watch it on kodi.

[@AM-ks7iw]

marie elena hi

[@Jakethegreat182.]

0:55 lol his face! 😂

[@53bigmikejones]

Modern boats use sound and wire guidance for their torpedoes. Those were not available in WW2 and the MK 14 were not reliable at first. Any change in the angle on the bow or speed of target makes a difference between a hit or miss. These folks in the old boats were brave and had to know what they were doing. DBF . . . . . Diesel Boats Forever. USS Clamagore SS 343

[@mikevo3974]

Bravo Zulu

[@saeedrasheed2263]

I wish we had more people like Mr oldmanswar, ua answers r very informative. Thank u sir.

[@Anonymous18531]

RIP to the crew of the USS Wahoo

[@2serveand2protect]

They should have put all their men on deck, after having armed them with gas-pipes and any other sort of junk, RAISE A BLACK, PIRATE FLAG and announce through a megafone, they'll board the destroyer. That would certainly scare the enemy off.

[@doogleticker5183]

Naw, destroyers have deck guns, machine guns, and small arms (no not to paddle). British subs enter home port with that illegal pirate flag flying after a kill(s). They are rad, non-conformist, nut-jobs...that's what is needed to be a submariner. Woof.

[@tt-mt7rn]

2serveand2protect It might have worked better than their torpedo firing skills..1 for 6?

[@coolbean259]

t t, do u know how hard that is, guessing a ships speed from 3 5 sec looks and doing the calculations in a minute under pressure.

[@friggingbomb88]

found my professor in this video lol

[@nomada1468]

Fuck your professor

[@nebula7424]

That’s not nice lmao

[@boogeymann6686]

Shut up Big Fish!!

[@wileyglass3324]

What has your comment turned into😂😂

[@boogeymann6686]

@Big Fish you are over 9000 Gay. I have 9000 IQ

[@bill2953]

A clear example of sometimes it's better to be lucky than good..

[@spreadeagled5654]

Early in the War, the American torpedoes were unreliable and failures to detonate were common. Later torpedoes were corrected and reliable.

[@kmankman8519]

just one thing forgotten is that the destroyer may throw depth chargers at the sub and the sub being that close under the ship is in serious trouble if they decided to throw depth charges

[@TheTarrMan]

>Sub starts attacking a ship minding it's own business. >Misses and fires again. >Misses and firs again. >Miss and now ship is getting mad. >Sees where the tornados are coming from so decides to ram it in self defense. >Sub fires again and hits ship. >Happy music. (Honestly they need to get rid of that or they'll have a meme to deal with. . . . Could you imagine 9/11?)

[@tommatt2ski]

TheTarrMan - that SHIP was a Japanese destroyer AND it was not minding its own business , it was engaged in WWII , which Japan initiated: 12/7/41 ! Wahoo JUST delivered a proper response to aggressive enemies of the US, "we will put a boot up your A$$, its the American way" - Toby Keith !

[@DXKF]

Damn those tonados

[@hwqh]

greentexting on youtube, doesn’t get more normie

[@wileyglass3324]

Haha you said tornados

[@kentcampbell122]

lol yep, that japanese war vessel known as a destroyer...just minding it's own business

[@stevenvietdo]

sweet! what game is this?

[@dominic5386]

Warthunder

[@potatopotato8360]

Silent Hunter 4

[@BonedxYou-gy5el]

Battle ship 4

[@doogleticker5183]

World of "blow all tanks"...

[@GrostyBoi]

life

[@crcoghill]

you mean other than being thousands of feet underwater, being inside a crowded place or the inevitable death of blowing up or sinking? ..... yeah, i can't think why.

[@525Lines]

That's why the US submarine service was voluntary.

[@crcoghill]

right. just saying.

[@robertr7923]

well, i read a book about U-boats (story, not informative) and a WW2 submarine can go 40 meter under water. i believe thats 130 feet so thousands of feet is a bit too much but i would definitly get claustrofobia in there

[@525Lines]

The world war 2 subs were not true subs but more accurately called submersibles, though their crush depth, about 700-800 feet down, wasn't that much worse than they are now.

[@robertr7923]

and what is the difference between a submarine and a submersible? (im not a native speaker) they can both dive and fire torpedos, dont they?

[@omkr0122]

00:00:38 'Vasily. Re-verify our range to target... one ping only.' - Captain Raimius

[@vedantkale1163]

Thanks Smithsonian for showing the ending result and not stopping the video there.

[@yeboifreeze9473]

Captain:shoot A6 Sailor: the enemy sent a message it says “missed” Captain: write down thise coordinates Enemy:*shoots submarine once* *submarine goes into panic’* Captain *calmly*: tell the enemy...hit

[@AA-bz1pr]

What

[@louisdanes3662]

Young aggressive Skippers had big Balls! The USA Submarine Service was a major asset to success in WW2 . And we did lose 52 Submarines and most of their crews! May they Rest in Peace!

[@bohunt9596]

For trying to show how it is accurately done, they sure do say "fire" a lot. The proper term is "shoot", due to "fire" being a casualty term.

[@onlytoughonline3159]

This is incorrect. The term is, in fact, "fire". It is only used in two situations, a casualty and during a weapons launch.

[@bohunt9596]

On my boat (SSN-709), fire was reserved for casualties. Shoot was term used to launch upon the enemy.

[@onlytoughonline3159]

I can't quote the actual manual on here, but as an instructor in this subject, the term is "fire".

[@bohunt9596]

Ok, but if you served under my former commanders, you would use "shoot" lol.

[@JackpineGandy]

when I was in, 50 years ago, the doctrine was "fire" was an actual command to launch the torpedo. (or fire the gun) All preparatory language was "prepare to shoot" etc, so as not to cause a mistake, even though all commands had to be repeated, in a tense situation shit happens. "Fire" was also a casualty. Ditto for surface ships in the US at the time. Respectfully submitted.

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

In Silent Hunter 2 you lock the target and fire. Amusing game. But being there probably was a tough job.

[@Dra741]

Pretty bold to go under the ship even though you know it's going to sink

[@RA-el6zj]

Yeah should have opted to fly over it instead.

[@idie2game771]

"we got a hit....." Acting 10/10

[@mdb831]

Some of the new 774 boats should be named for some of these guys. O'Kane and Fluckey for sure.

[@militarymachinesofwar5728]

Smithsonian Channel THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDEO (MILITARY MACHINES OF WAR) 🇺🇸THANKS AGAIN 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@mohamedash4134]

من ينتصر في الحرب هو من يكتب التاريخ ويحكي قصص خياليه علي انها حقيقه ...

[@potassiumcyanide3857]

the destroyer be like TORI KAJI IPPAI!!!!

[@bishalsaha5585]

Hope you miss each other and stay happy and peaceful

[@SuperKittyPancake]

If you guys haven't read the badass of the week article about Dudley "Mush" Morton, you should.

[@Dra741]

I'm going to fire all my Torpedoes and make sure that I do it right every time I make a mistake if I have enough

[@marc-antoinedenis5159]

Modern torpedoes are not straight running anymore. They usually are wake homing and will change course to hit the ship.

[@alexedmunds3948]

Recommend me this 4 years later thanks I guess

[@Dra741]

After you hit the ship you're going to go under it and you going to hear the ship break up as you pass below it

[@questionreality6003]

As long as we're destroying each other we're happy campers.

[@GameArchiver]

I bet they all yelled "WAHOO" after the torpedo hit.

[@cliffordishii3738]

Two famous ww2 sub skippers Mush Morton and Richard O'kane.

[@BigSkyCurmudgeon]

both have great episodes on the SILENT SERVICE TV shows from old tv, now available on You Tube

[@podsmpsg1]

There's a lot that has to be taken into account and a lot of precise calculations. You only have so many torpedoes.

[@SAWOK12]

Hedy Lamar, the Jewish actress, actually designed a torpedo guidance system to counter the Germans during the U-boat crisis in the Atlantic. When the Germans learned how to jam the system she also designed a system to scramble the remote signal. There's a good documentary about it somewhere....

[@pop5678eye]

Mind you, this was WWII technology and tactics. Modern torpedo targeting and guidance are far more accurate, but so is anti-submarine warfare. In modern submarine tactics a single shot, while in theory can be done within a few minutes, may more likely take hours to prepare (patience is not just a virtue when you don't want to be seen, it is a life-or-death necessity, and you have to maneuver slowly to guarantee both the hit and your survival) and an engagement may even take days in outmaneuvering your opponent.

[@LightSourceTemple]

This is what a space battle would be like

[@thomastamir7109]

Modern torpedoes are wire guided like a tow missile.

[@typicalasianguy1805]

Lol, this is like playing silent hunter 5 again, one shot "miss" 10,000 shots "miss"

[@thadtheman3751]

Doesn't the ship diving right below the destroyer open it up to depth charge attack?

[@alexdrahomaretskyi2792]

The torp hit the bow, and the sub dives beneath it, so why not depth charge the sub?

[@shopnoraj]

Lol the destroyer didn’t react firing back, instead it only moved towards submarine.

[@alphateam3326]

The move down the thought is literally like a scene from Godzilla opening a monsters mouth and fires it’s bean into its throat but this time it’s ranged

[@himwe3252]

Dude wastes All the torpedoes he ends up being blind from one eye

[@iblesbosuok]

Submarine battle needs sharp intuition. Cheers from Indonesia

[@aeureus]

1:09 until they decide to activate sonar and sound the Wolf's call lol

[@J4RLE46]

Wait.. Where does the missed torpedos go?, do they swim forever?

[@darko6270]

No, of course not, they will swim until they run out of fuel

[@J4RLE46]

@@darko6270 u know this was a joke right?

[@darko6270]

@@J4RLE46 oh, well, i will r/wooooosh myself

[@stevenpilling3773]

After its run, a torpedo will sink if it hasn't hit anything. Submarines have heard their torpedoes exploding after missing their targets when they impacted the sea bed.

[@connorvaughn7968]

It would be cool if they could create the opposite of a sub launched missile. A torpedo that fires from the bottom, sinks to a low depth then arcs back up under the belly of the targeted ship and blows it up that way.

[@chrismc410]

ASUBROCs or Anti-Submarine Rockets can do that

[@Dra741]

This is how people that we grew up with think positively

[@ronwilsontringue6574]

The wahoo was sunk by a runaway torpedo from U507 aimed at the Battleship Goney Bird.

[@Jimmy-lk1dh]

Great book in this submarine

[@caspiannnnistaken]

The only option left is an extremely risky shot Sailors call it *Down The Throat* ..... My Dad: That's what your mother said.

[@samar5838]

I'm but your father has some issues if he's sharing this with you.

[@antonioperalesdelhierro5188]

Sailors say that ey❓

[@fionajack9160]

You’re going to explain why sub battle is so tricky in three minutes and 50 seconds

[@deltacomet5203]

Guys they buffed the torpedos and periscopes in the 17.6 update

[@ukgaming951]

What a Great short of torpedo .

[@SGoodman]

What happens when they run out of torpedoes? Do they go home and pick up more?

[@jesseklassen3417]

Does anybody know where to find the full videos?

[@witt.1620]

Wonder if they recover the torpedoes that missed or are they just wasted?

[@soldieridk4356]

I'm pretty sure they are wasted

[@Groteskfull]

So, uh... what happens to those missed torpedoes?? Do they just lose speed and sink to the ocean floor, undetonated? Are they in danger of being detonated spontaneously?

[@peterson7082]

Potentially all the above.

[@naverilllang]

Plunges deep. The brighter deep.

[@ryan11.11]

Imagine a sub commander with degree in mathematics that could do the figuring in his head

[@menelogz3698]

them: literally calculating just for 1 shot me. shoots ship with no miss but no calculation

[@MicrowaveOven78]

The ultimate battle ship game

[@freepalestine1947forever]

What happen to torpedo that missed the target, are they still active?

[@RA-el6zj]

Good question

[@Jack-oz4bf]

Give us the full videos I already pay for this channel on tv

[@tardismechanic2319]

6 torpedoes for a single destroyer

[@gddunlap54]

In sub duty you learn that there are submarines and there are targets and you sure in heck don't want to be the target.

[@jamunaeluri6049]

What happens to missed torpidos? They forever stay under ocean ?

[@thememers_dude]

they stop and go down they dont explode

[@jamunaeluri6049]

Self Made so they stay forever underneath ocean?

[@User58-q3x]

That's a lot of damage

[@ayushkumar-bg1xf]

1 torpedo is not enough to destroy most of modern day destroyers

[@agm9525]

Amazing Videos!!

[@ratcoon917]

This is what goes on hidden inside the battleship game dang

[@elmoismywaifu2816]

The destroyer looked more like a fishing boat

[@samsunnahar6722]

But where did all the other 5 torpedoes go??

[@rishi7629]

*"As long as you are submerged and not bothering anybody you are invisible and you are safe"* ...not anymore old man. No more. 😏

[@fadiazzam4866]

wouldn't by the time the torpedo hit, the ship could have been in range to close down on the sub and fire the depth-charges?

[@splash5150izy]

I'd rather be on a War ship than a Sub, I don't care if the Ship got Torpedoed at least you got a chance of surviving, in a Submarine you got no where to go, and you might as well say it's your coffin Ha!!! :P] .v ..

[@195oth2]

Just ask myself how this pelriscope can work if there is curved earth?

[@ssPeto]

My father was a submariner in WWII. You ask a very good question. Periscope veiwing distance was much more limited for the very very reason you mention. Also, look up the "End Around" approach that submarines used during WWII to track targets in order to get into attack position. It can only work if the earth is round...

[@shotz_z]

You sunk my battle ship

[@pavelimani]

Why didn't the IJN ship fire shots?

[@geoffworsnop5726]

Modern torpedos must be a guided too