Why tank with 30mm cannon can dominate endgame? ▶️ BMP-2

BMP-2 is a soviet light tank equipped with 30mm automatic cannon. Just as expected such caliber cannot reach high penetrations, but vehicle has many other advantages instead...
Gameplay shows examples of how the tank plays and why low penetration is not an issue in this case.
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[@GrosseSose]

550 shells per second? That would be awesome ^^

[@HowToPlay1337]

oops :D

[@timl9870]

Would be funny to watch the bmp pulling a huge ammo trailer around the battlefield though! And when the bmp flips over, there's a return spring arm on the trailer that keeps her on her tracks. Build it!!

[@bushman-2155]

Lol I was just bout to type that.

[@Whitedeath24]

I call russian bias on this and that will explain its effetiveness

[@TheCarDemotic]

That’s over 3 times faster then a Tunguska. When accounting for all guns.

[@Roope00]

To be fair, the BMP-2 is an Infantry Fighting Vehicle but since War Thunder doesn't have that designation, it's classed as a Light Tank in the game. The cannon was designed to attack light armour and infantry, the 8.0 BR is because of the combo of autocannon and ATGM launcher.

[@rocket_sensha4337]

Well in AB usually they get their proper designations marked while still keeping the same old icons.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

to be fair it was also used as a reconnaissance vehicle (in different units). so it was recon and infantry support. the definition of a light tank.

[@itsmeracoon7907]

Robin P also the stabilizer props

[@Johnny-xi4ti]

Just wanted to say that

[@jojokieplinger6670]

Well now it's at 8.3 and has no HVAP bellt anymore.

[@ietsbram]

1:15 my my 550 shells a second

[@britbong1457]

Sneeze and boom there's all your ammo gone

[@yournotgully]

1:08

[@kimjanek646]

0:24 Despite the drawback, thanks to 70% of the maps being city maps or with capture points inside cities, the BMP-2 can easily dispatch tanks from the side.

[@kristijanmedved6066]

So you want more moon sized maps and 5vs5 on it? Hell no

[@kimjanek646]

hell yes. If you want to brawl in city maps play acade.

[@jamesleon457]

@@kimjanek646 If this game was realistic half the teams would break down at spawn. Realism sucks sometimes, snipe fests included.

[@kimjanek646]

@@jamesleon457 theres a difference in realistic gameplay and game designs based on realism that serve no purpose in a game. If the tank breaks down it's because parts where overused or not correctly mainted. Thats not the players fault, so mechanical breakdowns serve no purpose in the game which is just about tanks fighting other tanks in a set location.

[@jamesleon457]

@@kimjanek646 Alrighty then, if you want every single map to be Fields of Poland or Fields of Normandy, you do you. With the new dislike or disable map feature, most players will check off the open maps anyway (so enjoy the wait times resultant of those who do not share your views), or in the case of maps like Fields of Poland, rush the town in the middle. Or would you rather they remove the disable map function so that you can shoehorn everyone into your snipefests?

[@katarn109]

I'm grinding 8.3 russian bias, every match i last twice as longer when i get in the BMP2, its so versatile that it gets most of the kills. The additional armor is not that great because you will be even slowe than most mbts. Great video as always.

[@icata12345]

well its risk = reward you can rush and get flag 2 kils or camp with t62 .. and get bored or just drive is7 to win D:

[@cursedcliff7562]

@@icata12345 im a f2p stuck on the T-62 Fuck my life

[@kajmak64bit76]

Armor package is kinda bad... not only you"re slower... but you also loose ability to swim meaning you can't do some sneaky unexpected manuevers xd

[@dassatisfan]

Bmp-2 is awesome, really wanna grind it out

[@TheCarDemotic]

It is awesome

[@dassatisfan]

@@TheCarDemotic after APDS belts nerf i dont think so, but BMP-1 doing good in AB

[@TheCarDemotic]

Das Satisfan I still kick butt in the BMP-2. That 30mm absolutely shreds Leopards, M60’s, OF-40, and whatever else you can toss at it. Still effective against Abrams and Leopard 2A5 in my experience. But soon I’ll have BMP-2M which should be way better since it has thermals and better ATGM.

[@dassatisfan]

@@TheCarDemotic I have BMP-2M and its not all that good. Kornet flys too slow and has very random post-pen damage, but thermals help a little bit. Maybe you will like it edit: Imo Gaijin also needs to buff Bradleys AP belts because not only it fires super slow, but pen cant do much to russian sidearmor... IFVs need to get rebalanced rn

[@TheCarDemotic]

Das Satisfan The real problem I have with the BMP-2 at 9.0-10.7 is just that I can’t fire ATGM on the move. BMP-2M will fix that and will also be a nice replacement for the T-34-85 I have in my lineup. (My 9.7 Lineup is T-64A, T-62, Shilka, BMP-2, T-55A, T-34/85, and T-64B)

[@wolfhunter98]

7:14 I feel that. I feel that in my soul.

[@bluedogproy2016]

“Damage of projectiles is so small” *Casually destroys MBT’s in the background*

[@zm290]

Now I know you made a mistake with 550 rounds/sec but it got me thinking and it turns out the BMP-2 would be spitting out around 300 kg of burst mass per second which is basically a lead laser. Plus it would melt the cannon breach in under half a second.

[@REX-gq6ur]

On the contrary, anti-aircraft guns were found to be more than capable on anti-armor role due to their high muzzle velocity.

[@Kudlmon]

REX ! Not all AA guns are good against armor. This may have applied too ww2 but only really becase those high velocity guns existed when the need for bigger calibers came up . This reduced the need for development of new guns. The german flak 38 105mm for example had less penetration than the pak 40 (75mm) anti tank gun despite being a much bigger caliber. Some aa guns were allready good at guns. Some were not.

[@george2190]

@@Kudlmon yea i was wondering too why t-44-122 has less penetration than t-44-100

[@sr.lontra]

I just got my Is-2, and completed the 5.7 duo (T-34-85 and IS-2) Now this bad boy is my goal

[@shrekrecker]

Im at 6.3 with the t44 and is2(1944) cant wait for that sexy is3

[@hailtouhou855]

what's the diference about T-34-85 D5-T and T-34-85?

[@shrekrecker]

@@hailtouhou855 the t34 d5t has the d5t gun, but theyre practically the same. But the t34-85 gets composite rigid shell

[@hailtouhou855]

@@shrekrecker in long a copy tank that is like one tier more high, with 76000 Of Investigation that cost more than the previous one...

[@sr.lontra]

@@hailtouhou855 I think it's the projectile speed. I'll have to check that up, and other details.

[@Lehr-km5be]

TFW Bmp-2 is lower BR than Begleitpanzer but is better in every single possible way, the balance is real ))) Not to mention that it bounces HEAT-FS quite often, and frequently bounces APFSDS

[@lordlennyofmemetown5485]

The bagelpanzer gets a lot more ATGM's

[@Lehr-km5be]

@@lordlennyofmemetown5485 But Bagel's ATGMs are only good at it's own BR, if you get up-tiered they are dogshit. BMP-2 does not face this problem at all. Also they get 6 and 4 respectively, would really not call additional 2 "a lot more". Not to mention the missiles themselves worse so more does not mean better here.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

begleitpanzer has a better gun in most ways (more penetration (in both stock and final round) and proxy fuses for air targets), its missile is much faster (better at long range) and has better penetration (edit: faster and better pen, how is that worse?), and gets 2 more missiles which = 2more potential kills before needing to get on a cap to get more. and they are only 0.3 BR difference. they have similar mobility (the same power to weight ratio), the BMP gets a faster gun (almost too fast) with only slightly more AP ammo (which doesn't last as long) its hardly 'better in every single possible way'

[@Lehr-km5be]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 The gun in Begleitpanzer is really really bad. Your better penetration does not give you anything, because you fight vehicles with much better armor. BMP-2 mostly fights Leopards and has no problem penning them at any angle. Idk if you have played Begleit, but it's shells have massive drag and shooting above 500 meters already requires rangefinder/elevating gun really high so you cant even see your target. Not to mention you do not have stabilizer and after every shot your gun has massive recoil, so you need to wait 2-3 seconds between each shot before making a correction to your aim or shooting again. I-TOW is quite faster than 9M113, but it has less explosive mass and one-shots do not happen quite as often. And well, who cares about proxy fuses, your gun is not stabilized , has worse elevation and worse rotation speed and with it's recoil shooting aircraft is based on luck or it going straight in front of you. I pretty much never see begleits shooting down aircraft but I see at least 2 being shot down by bmp-2 every game, since it has much better firing rate and can actually keep up with aircraft with it's turret rotation. And sadly this mere 0.3 BR may sound insignificant, but it means you can get uptiered facing 9.3 tanks which happens almost every time and at that BR your I-TOW is quite obsolete and your gun is literally useless

[@GPAKOS]

excellent video as always! nice tips and observations!

[@imeatingicecreamrn]

1:06 550 shells per second? Sign me up!

[@Azachor]

Lmao!

[@kimibaharev]

That “Small penetωation” at 10:37

[@Ellros]

BMP-2's disabled several M1A1 Abrams during the 2003 Iraq war, from side and rear hits. So that 30mm gun is powerful.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

to be fair there are parts of the side armour that AT riles can pen

[@NineKunGTH]

It have less armor thickness but they are same Effective thickness

[@mikegallegos7]

Thanks. Enjoy your commentaries! Good humor; usually fun surprise statements.

[@teph1256]

that hvap penetration got dabbed on

[@hilpowuxing8273]

2:47 Love to see the R3 getting out brrrrr'd

[@midnattsol6207]

double nerfed, rip. lower pen, higher br

[@kajmak64bit76]

Lower pen but high rate of fire and you can tear enemy gun apart quickly leaving him defenseless xd

[@ket451]

@@kajmak64bit76 *screeches in freedom* (.50 cals ftw)

[@kajmak64bit76]

@@ket451 laughs in DShKA ( 12.7mm ) aka .50 cal in metric system xd

[@lemonjuice7244]

BMP-2: “Reality can be whatever I want”

[@slavcity406]

Lol

[@mrshar1000]

love your videos! and hopfully we can see some ruski T55A video sooner or later ;) your doing an amazing job keep up the great work!

[@GewelReal]

one of the most fun 7.7+ tanks in the era of boring top tier

[@andrehashimoto8056]

The thing i believe should be TRULY SPOKEN ABOUT: BMPs have THE WEAKEST ARMOR, but have THE BIGGEST JOKE of hullbreak RNG rigging EVER. BMPs will NOT hullbreak when hit by HE and HEAT-FS of anything bellow 120/125mm guns (120 and above WITH HEAT-FS is a staple only found in the 9.0 and above area, same for 125mm), the can RICOCHET APDSFS and LARGE AP(AND APHE) that's 3-5 times the damn thickness of the plate affected even as it meets THE FLATEST ANGLE POSSIBLE of it... I would say this shit is absolutely biased when it comes to hullbreak as a Centauro gets hullbroken BY ANY APDSFS or even HEAT-FS of 105 and up (and take that Centauros HAVE all plates THICKER than any of the BMPs). I don't have the WILLINGNESS to support such BIAS on a TT vehicle. This issue with hullbreak RNG being rigged in its favour SHOULD BE PUT to discussion

[@fabio6170]

Go to the forum dude i will upvote u !

[@stupidweasels1575]

This has ended up being my favorite tank in the game. I play a lot of arcade so ot definitely makes shooting down enemy planes a lot easisr, as well as finding weakspots for the 30mm. Of course, i die a lot as well lol. Either way, it's the first tank I aced with research alone. This thing is a blast.

[@Galaxy-oy4nj]

Then get BMP-2M (squadron vehicle). It has 4 152mm ATGM ready to be fired straight away, and additional 4 stored in hull.

[@stupidweasels1575]

@@Galaxy-oy4nj im trying to grind it out rn lol. It's going slowly RiP

[@gabrielseaman4968]

Yessss!! Another upload!!

[@wazzupchannel9007]

Can you make a video about the Panther II

[@TeddyKrimsony]

it's been removed

[@Frejki]

@@TeddyKrimsony but it's still playable for people which got it

[@ericryu8615]

2:57 "he is DOOMED" why i am watchin this part again n again

[@oogieboogie8615]

Appreciate your videos. As well with the Arcade section!

[@lilyfurley9833]

this and the mouse droid tank are the funnest vehicles for me

[@SgtMjr]

Another good analysis thanks 1337. When are we getting the follow up to the Battle Settings video?

[@fruitmidget2533]

I'd like to see a video on the Begleitpanzer 57 and hear your opinion on it. I think it should sit at 8.0, like most light tier VI tanks.

[@domingos8214]

5:25 whouldn't the spaced armour work as a anti HEAT base weapon protection? This is apllied also for the h variants on the stug and panzer

[@muffy469]

The side skirts on German tanks were specifically made to counter Soviet Anti-Tank rifles, PTRD-41's and PTRS. Which fired a 14.5mm cermet core bullet which could penetrate 35-40mm of armor. So the germans put on side skirts so the bullet would not have enough momentum to push through the actual side armor after passing through the added side armor.

[@muffy469]

@@o_crumbs It helps alot at angles, you wont be able to fire a shot FLAT on the side armor very often. Because the tank is usually on the move and front facing in your general direction. So if you hit the side skirt at an angle the bullet will be too deformed to penetrate further after passing through the skirt and just bounce off the actual side armor. Or, the skirt might detonate the explosive inside the 14.5mm bullet, which will yield no penetration on the actual armor.

[@TheCarDemotic]

Muffy Another thing the side skirts on the german did was cause the bullet to tumble.

[@GRAN_EME]

BMP-2: how about a lift? BMP-2: hey!, check our new tow misile

[@rizzopizzo0127]

Gaijin nerfed the BMP-2 :(

[@dannya1854]

How?

[@Ermy1996]

@@dannya1854 less pen (now 80 not 100) and higher br.

[@Tomohran]

I don’t like how the thumbnail suggests that the 30mm is 30mm in length lol

[@duke0salt717]

With so many light tanks being added since this video to the br range the auto cannon has only become more effective and dangerous

[@rinaldoman3331]

BMP-2 best ifv and only one that can normally fight 10.0 tanks.

[@rocket_sensha4337]

Type 89 migh have a word on that. But true , The other 3 cannot compare.

[@xloltimex38]

@@rocket_sensha4337 it definitly has a word in it :D

[@thelonelypigeon9554]

Kinda have to remember 30mm rounds are anti-armor. They use it on the GAU-8 Weapons Systems and 30 mm Bushmaster II Mark 46 Machine gun platforms on ships that are made to pen smaller armored boats like gunboats and armored speeders or even destroyers if the crewmen knows the enemy thin armor points. It's definitely surprising to see a BMP or a LAV going against a MBT and winning without a TOW or other kinds of Missile launching platforms but it is possible.

[@Foxdie88]

I really like how you do these videos. Keep it up man

[@thunderousavenger7437]

The bmps are one hell of a shitfest bouncing 165mm hesh shells which shouldnt bounce in the first place and even surviving their explosion without getting hullbroke sometimes

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

its more that HESH is really buggy and RNG heavy at the momnet

[@cursedcliff7562]

Yeah well try to drive one and enemies suddenly get wallhacks and rifle caliber round will kill you

[@TheIdiotPlays]

*looks at the upper hull* Well, in real life as long as you don't hit the first 10 cm of the upper hull, such bounces could happen. (access hatch, with like 5mm plate) - bmp 2 mechanic Ps: I fucking never want to see that fucking access hatch for the compressor ever again.

[@Ascariedeus]

Red Crucible 2 Players remember that tank :c Sad that Red Crucible died!

[@RHaenJarr]

Absolutely hated facing this thing in Operation Flashpoint. First vehicle to target with any weapon as any kind of unit.

[@wwlb4970]

Pretty realistic. In modern warfare, infantry and support vehicles are actually expected to destroy more tanks than, well, tanks. That's why specially designed tank destroyers are no use today and almost died as class.

[@ottos_jagd842]

How about make a video of the Italian P40 and the Breda 305

[@f86sabre92]

The BMP1 looks so goofy with the small turret and bigger gun. The BMP2 looks very cool tho

[@TheEmolano]

One of the better examples of the no ammor best ammor meta. If you shell is just a little off the tank will survive with full red crew and triturate you. Also if only driver or gunner get death you're death.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

i wondered...when they gonna introduce BMPT-72 (considering it also using 30mm cannon same as BMP-2) will it get better pen ammo or the same as BMP-2?

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

APDS shells for the soviet 30mm was introduced with one of the early BMP-3 varients

[@kajmak64bit76]

T-72A with 30mm auto cannon and ATGM's essentially... idk what to say xd

[@ExeterXIII]

Great videos man. Keep them coming.

[@martinfabian1286]

The main issue with this vehicles is "remotely controled ATGM launcher".

[@nikolatretinjak6838]

BMP-2 and all other BMPs are classified as IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) so they are not even made to fight tanks, though they have ATGMs just in case

[@machinech183]

It was dead on... except for the subjective commentary about both versions of smoke and night vision. Regarding night vision at that BR, it is absolutely better than the nothing you have until researched. While still at a large disadvantage vs thermal systems at night, it's a damn sight better than wallowing around the map nearly blind (unless you're the sort that cheeses your gamma, in which case it's already a non-issue).

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

low tier night is so fun. just run around with your head cut off, no one can see you.

[@ctan2174]

Could you do one of the Sturer emil? Its a pretty underrated tank but actually good

[@dragosvestemean4229]

it not an light tank, it s an armored transport vehicle, that can suport the infantry

[@divinesan7786]

IS-4M please. The true Stalinium

[@ah64dbeast37]

I think it's very impressive they were able to make a 30 mm penetrate 100 or so millimeters of armor basically it could penetrate a tiger tank... the bmp would have been a very dominating vehicle with just the 30mm in World War II

[@optiqal477]

Do the bradley now please

[@luc6152]

3:54 "Anti Earcraft"

[@vha1207]

Now they've added BMP-2M

[@EXTREMEYAMUM90]

this tank is alot better uptiered where everyone is using apfsds and you noticably always have it go straight through damaging 1 module at a time

[@doom8680]

5 views, 21 likes Yes.

[@mr.t-7243]

>550 rounds per second *a10 would like to know your location*

[@InveniosYT]

The default rounds have the same penetration as a...flakpanzer 1

[@teph1256]

I haven't unlocked the best ammo yet, but so far I prefer the bmp-1

[@devflite8782]

64 mm pen in USSR tank is 64 Mega meter instead Mili-Meter

[@Bilate07]

My favorite ifv, even made a video of it

[@ramboi9498]

the log on the back makes the canon at least 105mm

[@mcchickenbaptistchurch.org2]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE R3 T20 AT ITS BR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@nesyboi9421]

Yeah BMP-2 is great, but I hate it when people use it to spawn camp because its very easy to do with the BMP-2 because of its ATGM and its ability to penetrate side armor.

[@SergZa]

Wrong. BMP-2 is not a light tank. BMP - БМП, which means Б - combat М - machine П - infantry. In English, it may sound different but I think you understand what is meant.

[@MrHighsider]

Because of the BRs these Things are just OP.

[@ajikanExe]

This thin outstat the ifv warrior Sure you got more atgm and mobility . But remember high rof stabilizer atgm is just required is not no or you gonna get blasted everytime

[@italo_9687]

Like your videos 👍🏽 Can you make one for centauro? would be nice

[@oaples8790]

will you make a guide on the leopard 1 or italian of 40 ?

[@fernandoferraz2057]

550 shots per second? Daamn

[@dakinoytc986]

Ty was very fun :)

[@samo6954]

why is nobody talking bout all the heat fs bs that thing can eat. i ve shot bmp1/2 so many times even up front whit heat fs and it bounced

[@nesyboi9421]

ikr thing just absorbs that stuff like a sponge.

[@aspopulvera9130]

A 10 is a tank buster despite having a 20 or 30 mm cannon

[@hansm_0161]

You know what the other thing the 30mm can do that I also love to do? Canceling Pizza Delivery spam

[@rocket_sensha4337]

Counter* canceling would mean they don't try. And when they die and don't have enough points for a plane they are bound to pick up the autocannon r3 to come at your ligh vehicle for vengance.

[@Steve-nf4jx]

HowToPlay are you going to do operatiom shipyard?

[@kristofferlaursen5970]

Very nice vid. !

[@008abdullah]

Bagelpanzer master race

[@slavcity406]

BMP-3 review is needed

[@klestius]

Absolutely overpowered.

[@johnroscoe2406]

Awesome vid.

[@TeddyKrimsony]

make a how to play T-72

[@talltale9760]

Get downtiered and have fun :D

[@Damian-03x3]

Maybe Pz.IV H or marder III H review?

[@locthiennguyen]

Can you make a review on the Warrior?

[@icata12345]

guys buying talisman on bmp2 is pretty good option works perfect even in 10.3 :)

[@Galaxy-oy4nj]

1:13 550 shells per SECOND?

[@apache08]

I checked everywhere couldn’t find the answer for almost a year... I hope someone knows the answer here. When I’m firing with the cannon, zoomed in, I cannot see the target because of the gun smoke 💨 it’s not clear like in this videos... it’s not about the bullets I used HVAP or AP didn’t change... what can be the problem??? Is it because I’m playing with PS4? Or do I have to do change something on Options menu?? Because of that after first bullet I start fire random and guy turns around and shoots me.. It’s really frustrating... pls I’m begging for an answer

[@tomobrien6983]

BMP 's are armored fighting vehicle.....not a tank.....it has a section of infantry on board

[@noncircle0367]

Pls do a vid about the kpz70 You didnt made one yet :)

[@MeronBridgeMR]

Missiles not rockets. Very nice review by the way.

[@TheGuyThatsNotFunny]

Yes! A new video!

[@lumi5897]

“Has almost no protection” Me: bounces 183mm hesh center mass off the front plate.

[@user-sg6zh6vr7h]

Overpressure: omae wa mou shinderou

[@TheIdiotPlays]

Upper or lower plate? the upper one could probably do that. Though idk how the ingame model is made, i don't play wt. The access hatch at the front would probably eat the round and youd die. (the slope is so flat that when hit it the round just skids off) -bmp 2 mechanic

[@GameOver-fn2og]

TIp no.1 for BMP-2. Dismount additional armor.. it is useless , take out your amphibious capability + add to your total weight...

[@smiesznywalenty658]

I was prolly high when watching this cause i thought that If the bmp - 2 has 30mm cannon, then 3 shots from this is comparable to 1 shot from bmp - 3

[@jozkonovy2519]

If i could i would give you more than milion follows for your hard work keep up👌