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Why the BC Conservatives are beating the BC United | BC Election Forecast

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The Great Canadian Bagel

The Great Canadian Bagel

2 ай бұрын

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@Merlin_From_Shrek_3
@Merlin_From_Shrek_3 2 ай бұрын
The opposition is supposed to oppose the government, not simp for it.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
Ya, I usually only see fiscal conservative not social conservative.
@chadthundercock4806
@chadthundercock4806 2 ай бұрын
Why? Opposing the government just because you're a different party seems like an insane way to run a country
@disruptive7640
@disruptive7640 2 ай бұрын
@@chadthundercock4806 Simp!
@chadthundercock4806
@chadthundercock4806 2 ай бұрын
@@acrawley5128 It would more often than not just gridlock any sort of change
@chadthundercock4806
@chadthundercock4806 2 ай бұрын
@@disruptive7640 Cope and sneed
@ickster23
@ickster23 2 ай бұрын
You can tell where all the bureaucrats, managers, administrators, and other laptop classes live. Those are the areas all in orange.
@saint474747
@saint474747 2 ай бұрын
John Horgan was a likable fella. Eby...not so much. BC united (formerly BC liberals) brought in the carbon tax and also sat back and did nothing during the gradual rise of housing prices. So BCU started bad policy and BCNDP just maintained and probably accelerated bad policy. Neither party is good for BC. The only party offering a different sane solution is the BC Conservatives.
@David-bh1rn
@David-bh1rn 2 ай бұрын
Would you have considered voting ndp if horgan stayed in power?
@coralieelliott2076
@coralieelliott2076 2 ай бұрын
I lived through and remember what Christi Clark and Gordon Campbell did to BC under the Liberal Party but was actually the SoCred Party so a bit leary to think that the Cons who are really the old liberal and SoCreds will do if they are elected-- If you want to blame anyone why our medical system is such a mess--, why housing prices and rents are out of control-look no further than Gordie and Cristi---they believed and facilitated privatizing everything and allowing foreign off shore people to buy just about everything that could be bought including condo's and houses to sit empty.
@user-od2vn6ow1o
@user-od2vn6ow1o Ай бұрын
Horgan's greatest strength was getting other people to do his dirty work for him which helped maintain his image as a moderate dipper. He wasn't a moderate.
@robertamckenzie9040
@robertamckenzie9040 Ай бұрын
@@David-bh1rnhell no....
@bensanderson7144
@bensanderson7144 2 ай бұрын
Look at Vancouver island. We’re so divided we may as well be living on different planets. I live in Victoria, but my empathy is for all those living north of Campbell river. They’re like a forgotten people, it’s almost Orwellian. They’re not forgotten; they don’t exist .. they never existed. What a shame, but this is happening in all western countries, from the US to the UK. We used to be a country, one people like an extended family. Not anymore. Now we’re an international shopping zone, with a transnational global class in the cities and the left-behinds in the rural areas. It’s a disgrace.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
I feel the same way, international shopping zone, exactly,
@slowjamsliver7006
@slowjamsliver7006 2 ай бұрын
I mean currently the BC Conservatives are between the federal Liberal and Conservative parties. Debatably, probably still more federal Liberal though.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
@@slowjamsliver7006 ya basically no one to vote for
@Merle1987
@Merle1987 2 ай бұрын
My MLA has been in forever and is afraid to show his party affiliation. Now he's pretending to be an advocate for the poor, despite the fact that he's a favourite of the local rich.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
Which MLA?
@sktoh4469
@sktoh4469 2 ай бұрын
Name?
@Merle1987
@Merle1987 2 ай бұрын
@@cybernit3 Michael Lee, Vancouver Langara.
@TheogRahoomie
@TheogRahoomie 2 ай бұрын
I’m literally praying the BC cons win. I live in Rustads riding and the NDP is absolutely nuking the forest industry which I and so many others I know depend on.
@codywilliams1506
@codywilliams1506 2 ай бұрын
Nanaimoite voting BC Conservative 🇨🇦
@jared4walsh
@jared4walsh 2 ай бұрын
Eby maybe lose own seat to the CONS and as well for Kevin Falcon AND Sonia Furstenau.
@TheogRahoomie
@TheogRahoomie 2 ай бұрын
That would be amazing
@sktoh4469
@sktoh4469 2 ай бұрын
And awesome!
@pooplord6688
@pooplord6688 Ай бұрын
Eby's riding is Vancouver Point Grey, I don't expect him to lose that to the Conservatives.
@BC_Geoff
@BC_Geoff Ай бұрын
LOL Eby is not losing his own seat
@jared4walsh
@jared4walsh Ай бұрын
@@BC_Geoff if the BC Cons and the BCU Came in to one party they beat it own seat the BC Cons are at 34% and the BCU Are 10% = To 44% vs NDP 42% Van Point Grey
@Droxal
@Droxal 2 ай бұрын
Good video and analysis! I wish the Conservative Party supported some of the housing reform that the NDP is pushing. Housing is my #1 issue, and while I still think more has to be done, it's obvious that the BC Conservative party doesn't plan to address housing at all (and will get rid of some of these reforms).
@avrowolf
@avrowolf 2 ай бұрын
I cannot wait for the BC Cons to win (shame my seat is a safe NDP seat)
@Fictitious72
@Fictitious72 2 ай бұрын
vote anyways, encourage others by closing the gap
@dootdoot1867
@dootdoot1867 2 ай бұрын
Start having those awkward conversations most dont know
@ericmini2269
@ericmini2269 2 ай бұрын
it's ridiculous that the NDP still has this much support. Show's how so many canadians have embrased socialism.
@jonathanpuigvert7468
@jonathanpuigvert7468 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, let's all be like America. Where 10% have a life of luxury and the other 90% have incomes comparable to third world countries. That looks like a great policy!😊
@BbTenn
@BbTenn 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpuigvert7468Approximately 54% of Americans are considered middle class or higher compared to 42% of Canadians. These percentages are lower for both countries due to struggling economies over the past few years.
@luccac6247
@luccac6247 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpuigvert7468 So easy to trash the Americans but not say a word about the BS in your own back yard. On a federal, provincial, and even municipal level. Keep Deflecting clown. Your communist utopia will soon FALL. Only a matter of time. I suggest you educate your ignorant, arrogant, cocky, smug self about the US. You know next to nothing about it.
@royying
@royying 2 ай бұрын
@@jonathanpuigvert7468 How those 90% doing in BC? Are they able to afford housing, heating, gas and grocery?
@bhministry
@bhministry 2 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanpuigvert7468americans on average make more money than us while having a lower cost of living. I can tell you're an uneducated liberal.
@TheogRahoomie
@TheogRahoomie 2 ай бұрын
Pierre should come out and endorse Rustad.
@lukasfrykas7188
@lukasfrykas7188 2 ай бұрын
Love the technical stuff:)
@2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv
@2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv 2 ай бұрын
Powell River resident hoping the conservatives win here
@paddynelson3586
@paddynelson3586 2 ай бұрын
First Time viewer. I subscribed within a minute. Its so easy to find like minds, and such a pleasure. Happy to support your channel helping the general population understand and follow and critique the effing assholes trying to rob them blind and ruin their lives.
@invisiblemiles
@invisiblemiles 2 ай бұрын
Yessss BC ❤❤❤❤
@benstapley6077
@benstapley6077 2 ай бұрын
My poli-sci proffessor would always tell the class that in politics,'perception is reality'. It does not really matter how well a government does objectively if the voter has the opinion they are doing a bad job, then that is the political reality.
@TheInfectous
@TheInfectous 2 ай бұрын
the scary thing is we're learning that peoples experiences don't even really matter. In america their economy is doing really well right now, people individually report good experiences with the economy... yet they think it's all awful because culturally that's just what they think. I really wish people could step back and ask themselves: Hmm, what do I actually know about each candidate, what policies have they supported, what exactly are they going to do to address the issues they claim they will solve and how will their specific policies solve these issues? ( yes I'm calling out the man who has made a career off of shitting on the carbon tax and claiming it is responsible for inflation despite corporations reporting record profits god I love loblaws. I don't think the carbon tax is a good idea but thinking it will address any inflation is idiotic at best.
@bhministry
@bhministry 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheInfectoustell me you don't understand economics. You also sound dangerously close to a commie government simp
@batteriebrettchen6761
@batteriebrettchen6761 2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your recent videos. Will you also do some new predictions about New Brunswick and Saskatchewan?
@TheGreatCanadianBagel
@TheGreatCanadianBagel 2 ай бұрын
I've wanted to but there are no new polls in either province so there is nothing to go off of. I try to ground my videos by looking at trends in polls but if there are no new polls there is nothing to analyze.
@flyboynextdoor
@flyboynextdoor 2 ай бұрын
I’ll never vote NDP or Liberal again
@nisargjoshi4816
@nisargjoshi4816 2 ай бұрын
BC outcome might be an indicator of how the upcoming federal elections will turn out
@McGlynn020
@McGlynn020 Ай бұрын
Great video! I wonder why Eby didn't call an early election back when polls had him winning with that massive majority.
@TheGreatCanadianBagel
@TheGreatCanadianBagel Ай бұрын
My two cents is last fall he appeared to be set for a massive majority and nobody expected the right to consolidate like it has this year. It only became apparent in April that the consolidation was really happening and by then it would've been risky to call a snap election it would've looked opportunistic and might've led to an upset. Waiting the full term at least gives the NDP a more time to prepare since most of their preparations prior to fall 2023 would've been against the BCU and now the BCU is a fringe party.
@Dubsizzla
@Dubsizzla 2 ай бұрын
Everyone in BC is sick of this woke, environmentalist crap. I predict a conservative landslide.
@TheogRahoomie
@TheogRahoomie 2 ай бұрын
I sure freaking hope so. Getting rid of the NDP in BC is just as important for the people of this province as getting rid of the liberals federally.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
Does the BC United party support Woke? Atleast the Conservative is clear about this and seem straight to focus on problems and leave identity politics out of it; I like this.
@hinskwok5385
@hinskwok5385 2 ай бұрын
Conservative! Common sense!
@bhministry
@bhministry 2 ай бұрын
​@@cybernit3BC united are just the BC liberals, don't be fooled. They support all of Castro's policies.
@pcoleman1971
@pcoleman1971 2 ай бұрын
You missed one of the key factors which define the BC United. Their supporters are not all conservative. Falcon and the BC United are not concerned about attack ads from the NDP. They are concerned about maintaining their coalition of voters who are federally Liberal, as well as Conservative. One of the biggest blows to the BC Liberals / United in the 2020 campaign was a recording of a group of MLAs and prominent members making racist jokes about NDP MLA Bowinn Ma. I voted BC Liberal because I liked my local candidate, but I never forgave Andrew Wilkinson for insulting Justin Trudeau during the leadership race. For federal Liberals like myself, I have swung between the BC NDP and the BC Liberals/United. It won't show in the polls until the final weeks before the election, but if people like me have to vote strategically between the NDP and the Conservatives, the NDP will get my vote.
@johnny75channel
@johnny75channel 2 ай бұрын
Did you see the results of the Newfoundland Labrador byelection?? PC won 79% to 19% .. massive swing from the previous election.. it seems that the polling may be underestimating conservative support provincially AND federally ..
@kadenmccann3350
@kadenmccann3350 2 ай бұрын
I enjoy the jargon! If there are enough people who don't like it, then you could make a summary video
@joeymorneau9049
@joeymorneau9049 2 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity why are you zooming in on Nanaimo area and not say the Central Okanagan which is a much more densely populated area with more seats?
@jeffhillstead3302
@jeffhillstead3302 2 ай бұрын
I'm done with these NDP pride drug pushers here in BC.. Max Taxing and inflation you cant blame on Trudeau.!
@Merlin_From_Shrek_3
@Merlin_From_Shrek_3 2 ай бұрын
Is that one riding Kevin Falcon's?
@TheGreatCanadianBagel
@TheGreatCanadianBagel 2 ай бұрын
Yup he's the last BCU candidate to hold his seat by only a few points as well.
@paulg1358
@paulg1358 2 ай бұрын
There’s time for Falcon to lose his seat. That would be great news!
@monikins7209
@monikins7209 2 ай бұрын
Eby is a dictator, along with Dix and Bonnie Henry
@BC_Geoff
@BC_Geoff Ай бұрын
You're mentally ill and also probably poorly educated if you think that
@natesportyboy4939
@natesportyboy4939 2 ай бұрын
26:59 An Ontario version of Rustad would be Sam Oosterhoff.
@winstonskafte5505
@winstonskafte5505 15 күн бұрын
John Rustad has the most common sense .
@jjjones4982
@jjjones4982 2 ай бұрын
I don't know anyone who is actually even thinking about the election now.
@WiseOwl_1408
@WiseOwl_1408 2 ай бұрын
We will see
@borkerdorker
@borkerdorker Ай бұрын
What if you are different to the government in a way that is unpopular and distasteful?
@captainmidnight7012
@captainmidnight7012 2 ай бұрын
Never ever Vote Liberal (BC united ) /NDP ! 🤬 so done with the BS !
@jonathanpuigvert7468
@jonathanpuigvert7468 2 ай бұрын
Yep, this is sad. Eby has pushed for pretty good reforms. However, all the missteps of the federal government might cost him the election.
@paulg1358
@paulg1358 2 ай бұрын
Good reforms? Decriminalize hard drugs! Woke SOGI 123 curriculum! No rehiring of doctors and nurses in BC who refused experimental jab, (only province or state with this policy)! No fault ICBC insurance , where folks have been seriously injured, coma, etc! Carbon taxed to death! Wake up and let’s make a change to John Rustad conservatives.
@sethron2398
@sethron2398 2 ай бұрын
Good Video. Just a few humble corrections from a BC'er 1. Kootenay Central should be Lean NDP 2. NDP is not going to win in Kelowna (SAFE Conservative) 3. Sunshine Coast should be Likely NDP 4. North Island should be Tilt Conservative 5. North Vancouver-Capilano should be Lean to Likely Conservative 6. Vancouver-Yaletown should be Lean Conservative 7. White Rock should be Lean to Likely Conservative 8. Stikine should be Lean to Likely NDP
@TheGreatCanadianBagel
@TheGreatCanadianBagel 2 ай бұрын
We will see come election day :) My forecast is based on modeling so I'm not going to change what my model says if I'm wrong I'm wrong and it will be a lesson to learn for the next election. That said For 1, 3, 8 my modeling does make sense based on the poll numbers. The NDP/GRNs have lost a lot of ground in the interior. 2 is a statistical fluke the NDP lead because BCU-BCC vote split. Combined those two parties have 60% of the vote. 5, 7 it a result of my models recency buas weighting 6 Vancouver-Yaletown didn't even vote BCL why would it switch BCC? NDP had a 43 pt margin in 2020. Did you mean Quilchina or Langara? 4 I stand by this the BCC have made huge gains on Vancouver Island compared to the BCU.
@sethron2398
@sethron2398 2 ай бұрын
@@TheGreatCanadianBagel For 1 and 3 both are NDP strongholds they've held since 2005, Kootenay Central they've held since 1972 with the exception of 2001. I could see 8 flipping only if the BC Cons win the indigenous vote. Vancouver Yaletown didn't exist. It was split off of Vancouver False Creek. That seat was won by BCL in 2017 and under the current map BCL would have won Yaletown in 2020. The Northern VI ridings in general are up in the air. It's a hard area to predict.
@cybernit3
@cybernit3 2 ай бұрын
I think it would be better if BC United and Conservatives just had the Social Credit party (1 Big Conservative) to insure a win against the NDP. I feel in the last few elections there is no candidate to really vote for, therefore there is like an artificial democracy. It has became progressively worse from the 1990s onward, I don't like it.
@blakenewton7972
@blakenewton7972 2 ай бұрын
That won't happen. The Social Credit party is a historical event. And... Why would the BCCP even think about a merger? BC United is going to lose even more support
@Merlin_From_Shrek_3
@Merlin_From_Shrek_3 2 ай бұрын
Two more mp's cross the aisle
@TokyoBalletReprise
@TokyoBalletReprise 2 ай бұрын
BC NDP will get an easy majority.
@moviemaestro800
@moviemaestro800 2 ай бұрын
Especially now that the latest polls are suggesting that the BC Cons have a ceiling of support, and have now finally reached it. Plus, United is still significantly behind the Cons in terms of even fielding candidates, no doubt partially because they were hoping for an agreement with the Cons not to have both parties run candidates in ridings that could realistically flip from the NDP with a more singular right-of-centre option. Since that agreement fell through, I feel like United is now in the process of selecting more candidates, which is likely going to lead to a similar spoiler effect in the NDP's favour to that of Alberta's provincial election in 2015. Plus, at the end of the day, the majority of BC people have some flavour of ideology that places them to the left of the political centre. Not to say that conservatives can't win here, of course. Goodness knows, the federal cons have excellent odds to take a majority of BC seats next election, at this point. However, that's more to do with the fact that the left vote on the federal level is more split here, and because you will find very few people here, regardless of ideology, who want more Trudeau leadership.
@Chris-nt9lk
@Chris-nt9lk Ай бұрын
The cities ruin it for the rest of us. Need to cut off the lower mainland and lower section of Vancouver island and make it their own province
@moviemaestro800
@moviemaestro800 Ай бұрын
Have fun going broke, if that happens.
@geoffreydonaldson2984
@geoffreydonaldson2984 2 ай бұрын
“Old school” doesn’t make any sense? True right! Try this: the “old school” spectrum of left-centre-right, or in most parts of Canada, NDP-Liberal-Conservative, is really a communitarian spectrum which liberalism doesn’t share but only intersects-in Canadian history, the Liberals intersected the communitarian spectrum on the right end, hence our first federal government and many federal and provincial governments thereafter were Liberal-Conservative coalitions or parliamentary alliances arrayed against the socialist CCF, agrarian parties and Progressives. What is “communitarian”? Any political philosophy which sees society as an organic whole in which all citizens have a right to a place is communitarian -thus, socialist, anarchism, and conservatism are communitarian parties. Conservatism differs from socialism in that it accepts class distinction, even insists such distinctions are the ‘natural’ order of society, and weighs in with its veteran pedigree as the oldest political polity. Socialism, in contrast, though also communitarian in general outlook, does not accept class differences which it feels causes wasteful conflict and fosters greed. (Anarchism is communitarian but in a special class which even Chomsky says can’t be defined). All communitarians believe in some kind of authority-elected or not-to invigilate the sharing of the social weal-a government of some kind. Liberalistic individualism does not belong on the communitarian spectrum-it does not see society as an organic whole but rather as a conglomeration of private interests. But society needs government to keep order and so liberalism -which name reveals its ethos of liberation from traditional social mores-accepts limits on individuals, but only to the extent a government can function and, aside from that, government should foster an environment that promotes individual effort and reward. Margaret Thatcher once quipped that there is no such thing as society, revealing her to be a classic liberal, not a Conservative as she nominally was known. (Reagan, Thatcher and Mulroney represent, as so-called “neocons”, the transition away from real conservatism towards globalizing neoliberalism-or the “neo-right”.) Many like to remind that the BC Liberals were not really liberals but conservatives, instead, Gordon Campbell having effectively usurped the name “Liberal”-which is why the “BC” prefix in order to distinguish it from what most Canadians think of as Liberal. However, the BC Liberals were globalizing neoliberals who encouraged individualism and scoffed at communitarianism. Here, the liberal intersection of the communitarian scale was far to the right of Canadian, centrist Liberalism, and more like economic libertarianism. But libertarianism often departs from the traditional mores of the right on whose end of the spectrum that kind of liberal-individualism intersects. Intersecting liberalism can locate on the left of the communitarian spectrum, too. This fairly describes the Canadian partisan left these days. Only the NDP’s Canadian Labour Federation faction has hived off to form a very conservative kind of trade unionism impenetrable by any innovative plan like apprenticeships, job sharing, &c. Most of the rest of us Dippers are centrists, or on the “centre-left” where Jagmeet Singh and David Eby address concerns of individual citizens-housing, grocery prices, and so forth-while paying only lip service to unions (which have become calcified dinosaurs-which is why they’re conservatives: their organic whole is their memberships more than society). On the same token, Canadian Liberals are thought of as centrists, a little bit left (from where it is said they campaign) and a little bit right (from where it is said they govern). Yet Liberals dance on the spectrum rather than become part of it. That’s evident by its circumspective opportunity to adjust where its nominal individualism intercepts the spectrum, shifting way left by implementing public healthcare-now even public dental care-but rationalizing these ostensibly socialist policies by the fact that they facilitate individualism, too. And also evident by the extent the Liberals have acquired moderate, centre-right, or “Red Tories” who are abandoning the nominal CPC as it drifts so far right on the spectrum as to depart from it completely as libertarians who, contradictorily, often spout religious stricture at the same time (that of course to keep real religionists, most of whom are communitarian in the congregational sense, even the anarchistic sense like Hutterites, Mennonites, Dukhabors, &c) in the fold. Plainly, neoliberal globalization has twisted the traditional communitarian spectrum into a pretzel-with troubling consequences: the whole spectrum has shifted “to the right”-in fact, pushing the right right off the spectrum almost entirely. As a result of the neo-right infection, the NDP fired one of its most capable leaders and best parliamentarian it ever had because he dared to run on a platform of balanced budgets, earning the ire of lefty ideologues who accused and convicted Mulcair of pulling the party too far to the right. This was ideological nonsense: Mulcair moved only on the spectrum, and there’s nothing left or right about balancing budgets. Globalizing neoliberalism tore the Liberal party in half as it drove a wedge between the left and right sides of the party’s centrist share of the spectrum. Global shipping scion, Paul Martin, leader of the right-wing, or business faction, eventually won the leadership he’d coveted for so long, but Liberal voters stayed home in protest over subsequent infighting, knocking the Natural Governing Party of Canada out of contention for a decade-and allowing Harper’s CPC to win three mandate by default (only the last one a majority). The Progressive Conservatives themselves fell victim to globalizing neoliberalism and regional separatism as Alberta’s Reformers and Quebec’s Les Bleues split the PCs between them; Manning tried and failed to lead a united (sans Quebec Bleues) right; Stockwell Day fumbled; and freshly-elected PC leader MacKay betrayed his party to Harper’s Alliance and formed the CPC from the guts and feathers. As the CPC continued to dupe traditonal right-wing religionists, it moved further to the right, abandoning the centre-right which the Liberals happily occupied and, unable to balance moderate with extremist factions in the CPC, saw large chunks of both hive off in different directions. For the present (a year and a half until the next federal election) Poilievre is working on getting the People’s Party faction back into the CPC, having the vicious-cycle effect of driving more moderates away as more extremists are invited in. As the CPC entertains more libertarianism-at least rhetorically (as an opposition party is free to do)-it risks floating off the spectrum and unable to reel itself toward the centre of it where voters like to elect candidates. The dilemma of the neo-right (traditional Tory parties usurped by globalizing neoliberalism) is just this: it is becoming more unpopular and resorting to more extreme policy promises, inviting in extreme element formerly on the fringe to compensate for erosion on the communitarian end, the ProgCon faction, of the party-the only faction that still has a grip on the communitarian spectrum. In BC, same thing: the NDP has moved right-but is still centre-left-stealing the progressive faction of the BC Liberals (from the populous Lower Mainland). Like other neo-right parties (the GOP, the UK Tories, the CPC, the UCP, and probably the Saskatchewan Party), the BC Liberal party got torn between moderation (such as it ever had, anyway) and extremism, the two factions now overtly at war as separate fallout from the de facto destruction of a perfidious neo-right former governing party. BC United is now irrelevant since the NDP is eating a big part of its lunch while the BC Cons, erstwhile BC Liberals all, are adopting tRumpublican and CPC rhetoric that moves them farther to the right and, as it looks, more off the spectrum as libertarians. The 40-year neo-right arc, c.1980-2020, has been detrimental to the planet, to its workers, and its governments. Fabulously wealthy, it has become so unpopular for so many things that it has to cheat-the intellect if not the ballot box-in order to have a hope of wining and keeping power. It is a globalizing movement and communitarianism isn’t a global phenomenon.
@TokyoBalletReprise
@TokyoBalletReprise 2 ай бұрын
NDP got rid of mulcair cause they saw Justin's youth and thought they needed someone young. Also the NDP historically is the party with the most "balanced budgets". Tommy Douglas is the most fiscally responsible premier in canadian history and the numbers prove it.
@TokyoBalletReprise
@TokyoBalletReprise 2 ай бұрын
Tommy Douglas delivered a record 17 consecutive budget surplus when he was premier.
@geoffreydonaldson2984
@geoffreydonaldson2984 2 ай бұрын
@@TokyoBalletReprise -naturally balancing budgets is not per se partisan, merely administrative. Douglas is of course the premier example. However, “pulling the NDP to the right” was the ostensible “proof” or encapsulation of the party’ s major, post-2015 election beef against Mulcair when his leadership was reviewed and he was voted out-the rationale being variously that he was really a Liberal (provincially he really was), that he was therefore hardwired to hove to the right when, in fact, he would have been irresponsible not to take advantage of what was and probably ever will be the NDP’s best shot at forming government. Moving to the centre -or at least campaigning from it (another Liberal tactic)-was astute and necessary. And, going in to the exceptionally long campaign, the NDP polled in first place for the first time ever. IMHO, his platform did not venture into centre-right territory at all and the charge he was trying to pull the party to the right, while true in the sense of “towards or in the direction of the right” was incredibly trite in fact. I think the charge was euphemistic. Naturally Dippers were very disappointed to have not won when their expectations were so high-maybe even more disappointed than the HarperCons who actually lost power. If any of them were like me they would have really blamed Mulcair’s rejoinder to Harper’s odious ‘niqab’ rhetorical ploy for the loss. Nobody didn’t vote for the NDP because of his balanced budget platform, but I feel he should have known better than to attack Harper’s ‘niqab’ tactic in Quebec, especially as a Quebec MP and leader of 54-seat Quebec NDP caucus as well as the party: the issue of religious garb was (and still is) a very hot button in that province and I think he lost a lot of support in Quebec for that reason, not the budget thing-not because Quebec Dippers are particularly racists, but that Quebec voters in general do not forgive political mistakes like that one (which is why political parties in both levels of government in Quebec rise and fall, appear and disappear so often). But it would have been impolitic for the national party membership to cite Mulcair’s criticism of Harper’s overtly racist tactic as a reason to be mad at him. Theoretically and officially they have to be as against racism as Mulcair. And they could not make an exception of Quebec without implying Quebecois are all racist. So they resorted to euphemistic blame to rationalize removing him. The removal was curious because although the NDP was returned to 3rd-party status in 2015, Mulcair still won the second-largest number of seats in NDP history and retained 16 of the 54 Quebec seats -his own being one-, a pretty good showing given that the 54 won under the late Jack Layton were only “loaned” to the NDP as the default choice of typically sophisticated but fickle Quebec voters. Given Quebec seats are essential for aspirants to federal power, given those 16 seats were down from 54 but still sixteen times better than the NDP ever did in Quebec prior to Layton’s historic NDP win of Official Opposition-and a sold base to build on as a viable electoral option in Quebec, and given Official Opposition Leader Mulcair was a Quebec MP-which counts a lot in Quebec’s voting calculus-, it seemed to me foolish for the party’s prospects there to fire such a valuable asset. Sure enough the party was reduced back to its traditional no-count seat under Mulcair’s successor. Perhaps there was nothing but the two older leaders to do but watch the 3rd-place rookie leader blast by both of them. Harper deserved to lose, and we’ll have our chance to register whether Trudeau deserved to win at least three governments in a row (maybe four, if he even runs next time), but the demise of Mulcair will certainly be debated- or avoided being debated in public- by a struggling NDP.
@hinskwok5385
@hinskwok5385 2 ай бұрын
Folks get the NDP Liberals guys out of the office
@BC_Geoff
@BC_Geoff Ай бұрын
I doubt you could actually form your OWN thoughts about why the NDP are bad for BC
@paddynelson3586
@paddynelson3586 2 ай бұрын
Please dont stop with your tech jargon. Like..m so far, it looks like you are looking at numbers, so to not discuss the numbers in numbers speak, then whats the point? So youre now... The thirtieth small to midsized Canadian content creators that i now have to keep up with. My pleasure. For sure. Im 58 and an insomniac and i dont like to read more than one book a day. I absolutely dont care what you're talking about. It is statistically irrelevant. As youve mentioned. No ones minds are being changed. You sound well prepared from proper research and understanding that research, and no Liberal speak. If elections through rigged voting machines can be stolen, polls are starting to crack me up. A published pill is no better than switching fishing lures. They/them are still look rading the fish to the boat..
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