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Why the Belarus migrant crisis is different

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2 жыл бұрын

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@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. You can read more of Vox’s reporting on the Belarus migrant crisis here: bit.ly/3pB0zlN
@mervin06
@mervin06 2 жыл бұрын
First, I'm too early to reply :) Edit: when this comment came out, it was not pinned for 3 minutes, then later, it was pinned.
@Alexander-mk4qf
@Alexander-mk4qf 2 жыл бұрын
lie as usual, belarus not forcing them to cross border..diz to channel and all people who support poland
@MrAdeelAH
@MrAdeelAH 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-mk4qf lukashenko alt account be like:
@muktamalakar5771
@muktamalakar5771 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-mk4qf Hey Alexander, do you happen to be Alexander Lukashenko??😁😁
@Arjun-my5zp
@Arjun-my5zp 2 жыл бұрын
You know what, EU should take efforts to assassinate Lukashenko. Its a win-win for both EU and Belarusians. A good dictator is a dead dictator at the end of the day.
@Essah15
@Essah15 2 жыл бұрын
"we won't capture, smother or beat you up"... That's uh, that's awfully specific Mr Lukashenka.
@nromk
@nromk 2 жыл бұрын
Because they did that in the past, but now they want sanctions relief and trying to scare the EU.
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu 2 жыл бұрын
@@MuzzaHukka When trying to illegally cross the border.
@KingLarbear
@KingLarbear 2 жыл бұрын
Oddly specific lol
@Virtrial
@Virtrial 2 жыл бұрын
notice how he didn't include shooting you... kinda sus
@EvanBoyar
@EvanBoyar 2 жыл бұрын
Genesis 11 has similar energy: "And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth."
@allopriem
@allopriem 2 жыл бұрын
As a Russian citizen, I should say that you are definitely wrong calling Lukashenko "Europe's LAST dictator"
@Ma1akai
@Ma1akai 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah putin as well
@unkown7277
@unkown7277 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ma1akai Russia is both categorized as Euro-Asian nation like Turkey that is why it is in when its own league
@ricardoxavier827
@ricardoxavier827 2 жыл бұрын
Russia, Turkey, Israel, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Cazakistan, are not Europe. They all are Asia. They must play in AFC and not UEFA.
@biglebowsky6586
@biglebowsky6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardoxavier827 Russia is definetely Europe. Its most important and most pupulated part is in Europe and thats also the part on which Russia was created, Russia gained land in Asia only by expansion and counquest, but its base always was and still is in Europe.
@sahulianhooligan7046
@sahulianhooligan7046 2 жыл бұрын
Europe is a meaningless term geologically speaking. Its all Eurasia
@0y0chang0
@0y0chang0 2 жыл бұрын
My friend visited friends in Belarus a few years ago. He was taken around downtown Minsk for a tour. He saw a building with high walls that was the Belarussian National Police building. My friend asked if he could take a picture with his camera. His friends told him that if you take a picture of the outside of that building, they will give you a special tour of the inside of the building.
@1989TheAmrita
@1989TheAmrita 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! It took a while to pick on sarcasm... good story!
@tomaszyarlett8681
@tomaszyarlett8681 2 жыл бұрын
Lubyanka vibe. Loving it.
@adamblomberg
@adamblomberg 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even uncommon for prisons or airport security or even police stations to have photo bans in most countries.
@user-zi5mk3ks9f
@user-zi5mk3ks9f 2 жыл бұрын
deep meaning.....lol.. XD XD XD
@ghostgustav2486
@ghostgustav2486 2 жыл бұрын
There are no walls surrounding the building neither strict prohibition to get a picture of it. However "not blessed"
@tooshikii
@tooshikii 2 жыл бұрын
I really can’t imagine how it’s like to be a desperate immigrant being used as a card in political game. As an individual, I can’t do anything but trying to understand a bigger picture of what going on. Thank you Vox
@HorseWithNoBane
@HorseWithNoBane 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its disgusting....
@TheDenizxo
@TheDenizxo 2 жыл бұрын
Already little boy died in cold from infection. :'(
@eeliasselias549
@eeliasselias549 2 жыл бұрын
They went to Belarus with the intention of crossing illegally
@19822andy
@19822andy 2 жыл бұрын
They are willing pawns.
@bosnianmcnuke1271
@bosnianmcnuke1271 2 жыл бұрын
If they got to Belarus they are not desperate refugees. The trip is not cheap, they are illegal immigrants not refugees.
@parallax1234
@parallax1234 2 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko brags about being the last dictator of Europe and still has the audacity to call out Poland on Human Rights Violations
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 2 жыл бұрын
The same as Poland brags about hunan rights violations in Belarus while beating migrants near the border. I mean no nation is pure and everything used for political gains
@parallax1234
@parallax1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@cactuslietuva true but Poland's hypocrisy isn't as ironic as Lukashenko going from warning his people that NATO will send “black-skinned, yellow-faced, and blonde-headed soldiers.” to "migrants have a right to go west"
@Avantime
@Avantime 2 жыл бұрын
@@parallax1234 Both are guilty of hypocrisy. But Poland, being a member of the EU, has actual human rights obligations to uphold.
@RealYunoCS
@RealYunoCS 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's true so
@the0ne809
@the0ne809 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary and Poland are actually not becoming more democratic. Of course lukashenko should be the last person to bring that up.
@normalhuman5488
@normalhuman5488 2 жыл бұрын
"we won't capture, smother or beat you up" , That's very considerate of you , Mr. Lukashenko.
@Notllamalord
@Notllamalord 2 жыл бұрын
He is a kind man
@futurez1988
@futurez1988 2 жыл бұрын
As a Russian, I am very fascinated by how this phrase amused many people here in the comments. For us this phrase does not sound so funny. When we go out to the street, we can be captured any time for no reason by so called police. More so in Belarus now..
@INecr0
@INecr0 2 жыл бұрын
What a liar.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 2 жыл бұрын
@@INecr0 hi there :) i was wondering where you are. RFL awaits your comments/humour ;)
@INecr0
@INecr0 2 жыл бұрын
@@kukulroukul4698 ?
@troyraymund8256
@troyraymund8256 2 жыл бұрын
Abused, used and desperate to get away from war they took their only chance, just to be used and abused in another mans war. Such a sad situation I pray for the children involved to be safe.
@Pwlszczrwski
@Pwlszczrwski 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Poland!
@frunk468
@frunk468 2 жыл бұрын
Just a small note: at 1:30 Lukashenko doesn't say "beginning of the end" but "Beginning of YOUR end" which makes it sound waay more threatening.
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
as a Belarusian, i only saw our local side of things The "bigger picture" explained here helps. Thanks.
@nedson6503
@nedson6503 2 жыл бұрын
For good local news look half way across the world.
@krzysztofkokosinski4339
@krzysztofkokosinski4339 2 жыл бұрын
In Poland many connect what is going on to finalisation of Nord Stream II and he fact that Yamal gas pipeline is going through Belarus. Russia may have an interest on making the region unstable so that NS2 seems a reliable alternative
@WurstRELOADED
@WurstRELOADED 2 жыл бұрын
What is your "local side of things"?
@Ubeogesh
@Ubeogesh 2 жыл бұрын
@@WurstRELOADED we don't talk about why Europe is doing what it's doing, but we're happy that they don't give in to luka's machinations
@andreeiras2735
@andreeiras2735 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how do the sanctions affect you guys. Is it discussed in Belarus?
@pulse5863
@pulse5863 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for such an exhaustive video covering so much information in a matter of 10 mins video!
@lukaspictures
@lukaspictures 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true story. I am from Lithuania and am glad that with such content more people will be aware of what is happening in Europe.
@maras3naraz
@maras3naraz 2 жыл бұрын
We have to stick together. Baltic Countries& Poland
@davislinkaits6935
@davislinkaits6935 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thing you missed is the fact that there is a percentage of these "migrants" that didn't even want to move to Europe. In Iraq and other Middle East countries, Belarusian tourist agencies advertised a possibility to visit Minsk. Those who flew to Minsk, through these tourist agencies, were then forced by the Belarussian forces to go to the border. Human trafficking would be one way to describe it.
@Avantime
@Avantime 2 жыл бұрын
Iraqis who want to go to Minsk for a holiday, yeah right. Who else? Nigerians? Afghans? What's there to see in Minsk anyway, apart from a few Stalin-era monoliths?
@jerujedesu
@jerujedesu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Avantime It violates basic human rights, and you can describe it as human trafficking. No one asks you who you are or what you want, or where you want to go, but as soon as you show them your passport they immediatly send you to the borders.. That's messed up
@nscrclan5110
@nscrclan5110 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerujedesu both sides are violating human rights the eu are supposed to help the migrans but they are blocking them from entering and Belarus is pushing them to the boders
@michaelkinahan1829
@michaelkinahan1829 2 жыл бұрын
@@nscrclan5110 the EU is willing to accept those who apply for refugee status through the appropriate channels.
@Avantime
@Avantime 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerujedesu It still doesn't support the original assertion that Iraqis are actually going to Minsk for some actual tourism, in the middle of a global pandemic. 99.99999% of these people from Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria etc. are there, travelling via major hubs like Qatar and Dubai, to have a go at the EU border.
@EvanBoyar
@EvanBoyar 2 жыл бұрын
By "collective expulsions are prohibited," doesn't "expulsions" actually refer to removals of a group of people who have actually physically made it into the country, not people who are still outside of the country?
@TheRealSykx
@TheRealSykx 2 жыл бұрын
when they cross the border they aren't let in, they get maced in the face and beaten back, so yeah that's a collective expulsion
@jacksteven781
@jacksteven781 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of problems here. but the biggest one is that EU law is interpreted substantively not literally. Meaning it should be interpreted as what the lawmakers had in mind when they made the law, not what the law strictly states. Therefore pushbacks are illegal because the EU lawmakers INTENDED for "pushbacks" to be illegal. They are supposed to be allowed in and then be heard at a trial where the EU will decide their immigration status as either an asylum seeker or illegal immigrant.
@xanderx2523
@xanderx2523 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealSykx but that's the thing: they didn't cross yet. They get maced and beaten to prevent the crossing because as soon as they cross they will have the full rights.
@hi__im_zack4890
@hi__im_zack4890 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I don't really see the distinction. Why is it that we can beat and mace people in one case, but once they step one foot further and pass an imaginary line, then oh no suddenly it became bad? Hot take, maybe we shouldn't be beating migrants trying to cross the border to escape horrible living conditions.
@PhenomResurrections08
@PhenomResurrections08 2 жыл бұрын
@@hi__im_zack4890 a highly controversial statement there sir, it's almost as if you see people as like.... humans or something? 🤯
@poundlandbandit6124
@poundlandbandit6124 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a dreadful situation, the migrants hoping to escape their war torn countries for a better life being used as pawns by more powerful nations. The Eu also would buckle economically under uncontrolled and large scale migration. I think solving the issues that plague this countries is the right direction, but not through military means. Education and democracy would be a good start but hard to implement.
@frankboff1260
@frankboff1260 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Sadly though even democracy can be hijacked by super rich mining magnates and other super rich….
@ranazahoui
@ranazahoui 2 жыл бұрын
how do you know democracy is the best strategy for all these countries look a lot of the migrants there talking about are from the middle east where and it is war torn bc it's also being used as chess board usa, and all the European influences from now and the past has caused this crisis. Not allowing migrants to flee and holding them captive is hypocrisy. One side these ppl had a country but were being killed or dying of lack of human necessities bc of war cause by again usa Europe influences. On the other they trying to flee for better life that you wont let them have. So the real solution isnt so western democracy it's to give these migrants their country back and it fill it with human need like water and shelter until they as ppl can decide what is best for them
@philruther8705
@philruther8705 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly these groups have proven to not take educational opportunities seriously, immigrants in Germany show that they only enter the EU for money and not for work. Since you they don't want to assimilate in the slightest why would anyone want to let them in. What would you do if you had a freeloader living in your home for more than 3 months and not doing anything to improve their situation? Their reason being they can get by on your money.
@DocRemyBear
@DocRemyBear Жыл бұрын
Why if you want to escape you are jumping through fences. Go, make your documents, why they make it illegal.
@Caiotus
@Caiotus 2 жыл бұрын
This really is some mind blowing news that I didn't even realize was happening in such a large part of the world. Phenomenal video Vox.
@SgtCake101
@SgtCake101 2 жыл бұрын
If we say that Lucasenko is Europe’s last dictator, then we are forgetting about his boss, Putin
@astroantares
@astroantares 2 жыл бұрын
Why Putin is dictator?
@Anurag-xe2jp
@Anurag-xe2jp 2 жыл бұрын
Putin is an autocrat. Russian elections are unfair but still not rigged
@astroantares
@astroantares 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anurag-xe2jp Putin was elected democratic way and still supported by majority of people of Russia. (Let's speak about Biden/Trump strange gap in USA and a number of other violations during the last elections. Does it mean that the last elections were falsified to install Dictator Biden's regime? )
@astroantares
@astroantares 2 жыл бұрын
@Anurag russian elections is ultrafair. It controlled 24/7 by CCTV with open translation and commisions of all parties on each location to vote. It was much more fair then USA elections... much more. Seems like you don't understand what are you talking about.
@its_firas.
@its_firas. 2 жыл бұрын
@@astroantares russian elections are not fair
@h2643
@h2643 2 жыл бұрын
As a ukrainian it's even worse, since Belarus with Russia are now threatning to invade Ukraine with a war from the northern side... it's unsettling, since I live ~50 kms away from the border between Ukraine and Belarus.
@solo-angel
@solo-angel 2 жыл бұрын
Putin will never do it. Threatening is one thing, but actually allowing innocent people to be killed - that's different.
@h2643
@h2643 2 жыл бұрын
@@solo-angel you say that, but look at southern and eastern Ukraine :/
@TruthfulAndHumble
@TruthfulAndHumble 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for you! Inshallah Ukraine wouldn’t be invaded! Btw your profile picture is epic cuteness! 🥺
@h2643
@h2643 2 жыл бұрын
@@TruthfulAndHumble thx :3
@sirlancealotdulac9377
@sirlancealotdulac9377 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it is not going to happen. But, if it happens to, NATO and the EU have Ukraine’s back.
@anothermail5117
@anothermail5117 2 жыл бұрын
I live just dozens kilometers from kuznica. Glad to hear reasons why regime of Belarus used people as weapon instead of just showing these poor people.
@Subh8081
@Subh8081 2 жыл бұрын
It always seemed Belarus was supporting these illegal immigrants to push into EU zone. It seemed fishy that a dictator turned a humanitarian. It's a great piece that explain everything.
@LinuxAndroid86
@LinuxAndroid86 2 жыл бұрын
No one is illegal
@LinuxAndroid86
@LinuxAndroid86 2 жыл бұрын
No one is illegal
@Malick-ix9io
@Malick-ix9io 2 жыл бұрын
What do you know of illegality?!? Illegality on migrants doesn't exist!
@thelreadtheunready4051
@thelreadtheunready4051 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinuxAndroid86 But people can do illegal things. Migration one of them. There is no right to immigration. And certainly not to illegal one.
@SoSo-li6dn
@SoSo-li6dn 2 жыл бұрын
My gf is a Belarusian living in England. It was a really stressful year trying to get her citizenship, now its over I often wondered why I was being paranoid... I see now that my paranoia was justified.
@SoSo-li6dn
@SoSo-li6dn 2 жыл бұрын
@Matija Dorđević goood point, shes actually from Ufa in Russia but i thought i would get more likes if i put byelorusian
@tabc6870
@tabc6870 2 жыл бұрын
Would it have helped if you had married her?
@SoSo-li6dn
@SoSo-li6dn 2 жыл бұрын
@@tabc6870 not in the UK, she had to get skilled work and be backed by her employer who is registered as a skilled employer, she has to show good english, and a degree scored her some points too, she had 4 months to get skilled work. and it had to be over 24k a year... she also had to keep 1.5k in a bank account for 3 months, and she needed to get her finger prints taken. The EU would have harsher laws for Russians. So, there is that.
@sethevans5318
@sethevans5318 2 жыл бұрын
Bless you and your gf
@User-nd7wu
@User-nd7wu 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoSo-li6dn uk is wet gloomy and there is more chance to get stabbed in uk than in russia
@TheGriever255
@TheGriever255 2 жыл бұрын
As I say every time - Atlas is and always has been the best thing Vox produces. I really love it.
@jacksonandrews8714
@jacksonandrews8714 2 жыл бұрын
Atlas is great for world issues, but I love Strikethrough for explaining domestic ones
@jasjottamber7599
@jasjottamber7599 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but this video in particular was not good, the video keeps talking very poor of the EU
@TheMasterofComment
@TheMasterofComment 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasjottamber7599 what should it do instead?
@jinjunliu2401
@jinjunliu2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasjottamber7599 So? If the EU does poor things then they should be talked about, don't see an issue with that
@user-mx4sm9cv7e
@user-mx4sm9cv7e 2 жыл бұрын
@@jinjunliu2401 when is China going to destroy the US please be soon
@bennis123
@bennis123 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Never got an overview like this from the news.
@michaelr.9485
@michaelr.9485 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work in this video, excellent explanation!
@me5ng3
@me5ng3 2 жыл бұрын
6:10 Wait. Expulsions I understand, but pushbacks? The text you're showing doesn't say anything at all about pushbacks. Also an expulsion starts with the premise that the deported people are inside EU space, which is not the case here.
@monikazalewska6549
@monikazalewska6549 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say this but yes, there are pushbacks from EU territory. Some migrants manage to cross the border
@topikbagusid
@topikbagusid 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, EU doing "illegal" pushback in the sea. I believe it is on another Vox video too explaining about the newest migration agency(?) That have the power like a military
@612osiris
@612osiris 2 жыл бұрын
Belarus is part of the EU
@aleksanderpajda7544
@aleksanderpajda7544 2 жыл бұрын
@@612osiris what?
@matthewshelnut4323
@matthewshelnut4323 2 жыл бұрын
@@612osiris Belarus is NOT part of the EU
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa 2 жыл бұрын
“Europe’s last dictator” Putin is still alive.
@nicolasiden4074
@nicolasiden4074 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. It is possible that he got this title back then when it still wasn't clear that Putin is also one more of this kind. So the name last dictator sticked to Lukashenko even though Putin is also a dictator.
@Nick-oy9rt
@Nick-oy9rt 2 жыл бұрын
Russia isn't europe
@dimitriostsiganis
@dimitriostsiganis 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-oy9rt Russia is Europe and its state The Russian Federation spans two continents. The border of Europe and Asia are the Ural mountains.
@MrSnakeFilms
@MrSnakeFilms 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-oy9rt Most of Russia’s land is in Asia, but most of its population is in Europe. The administrative capital Moscow is in the European side, and Putin was born in Saint Petersburg, on the European side of the country
@Gunner77269
@Gunner77269 2 жыл бұрын
Russia is it's own animal. It's not European.
@ESTOization
@ESTOization 2 жыл бұрын
You should have showed the aggression of Belarusian troops against the polish, they are using lasers at night to blind the poles while throwing rocks at them and pushing migrants through
@j.t.jaeger1595
@j.t.jaeger1595 2 жыл бұрын
Poland has every right to protect its border, especially when under attack from a neighbouring country.
@Pawlo_83
@Pawlo_83 2 жыл бұрын
I am from Poland and I am so glad someone finally showed this topic as is and not only our forces stopping people on border
@JaroslavUrik
@JaroslavUrik 2 жыл бұрын
And as a Czech I am really thankfull to your government to have stoped them
@penetrationskommentar877
@penetrationskommentar877 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaroslavUrik Ahoi, Isn‘t your country hosting like no migrants at all?
@abee4447
@abee4447 2 жыл бұрын
It is probably better for those ppl to go back, poland is a filthy country, they probably didnt know that.
@sowianskiwojownik5973
@sowianskiwojownik5973 2 жыл бұрын
@@abee4447 Poland is cleaner, more agricultural, and safer than most countries in Western Europe, you are just spouting hate.
@TheScholar1
@TheScholar1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sowianskiwojownik5973 Country filled to the brim with racists so Abe E is not wrong.
@monkylinks
@monkylinks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm mexican, I think o have an understanding of why flee your own country, but also as a mexican, we have an immigrant crisis on our southern border and we cannot afford the support this migrants need, so i also understand countries that don't want to allow new migrants to enter. This is a complicated issue but I don't think sanctions will be enough to stop this crisis
@solalflechelles1216
@solalflechelles1216 2 жыл бұрын
But the EU, unlike Mexico, *can* afford to support the migrants. We just don't want to.
@evilnet1
@evilnet1 2 жыл бұрын
The US also uses Mexico as a buffer against central American immigrants. Why they keep bunching up at the border.
@tariqreingoud
@tariqreingoud 2 жыл бұрын
@@solalflechelles1216 the EU can afford it but does not have the capacity to do so. These are two different things. I’m from the Netherlands and the migrants that come in now are staying in emergency shelters were the conditions are no better than the warehouses where Belarus is putting them. I think Governments should do more to tackle the problems at the places of origins.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 2 жыл бұрын
well this is different to the migrant crisis in the Americans is that there not being used by a petty dictator.
@crushergames8361
@crushergames8361 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilnet1 yeah people from Central America dont want to move to Mexico, theyd rather cross there to be able to cross to the much wealthier US and Canada
@camillabrandao_ads
@camillabrandao_ads 2 жыл бұрын
That has become my favorite channel. Amazing how you put your content.
@bbenjoe
@bbenjoe 2 жыл бұрын
Here is an interesting fact about Belarus: The country first emerged as an independent entity at the end of World War I, but after about two years, it was annexed by Soviet-Russia. When that happened, it's goverment went into exile.... and remains there to this day, after a whole century. That's right.: Belarus still has a government-in-exile. After the collapse of the Sovietunion, they planned to return and formally give power to a democratically elected Belarussian government, but as Lukashenka took power, the plan was put on hold. So, they're waiting to this day. Belarus has the longest lasting government in exile in history.
@dritemolawzbks8574
@dritemolawzbks8574 2 жыл бұрын
Where is this government in exile? How are they still alive since the WW1?
@bbenjoe
@bbenjoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@dritemolawzbks8574 I think their seat is in the US somewhere. Obviously, people change in that government too. Made of Belarussian exiles.
@8ig0r86
@8ig0r86 2 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko: *fakes several elections and breaks human rights* EU: "That's a lot of sanctions!" Lukashenko: *sends in migrants to EU* EU: "How about a little more?!"
@daydreamer_2031
@daydreamer_2031 2 жыл бұрын
his plan back fired
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry he will try again in spring and summer. Next time try not EU should mind it’s own business and not to police europe. Europe starting to be a little warmonger
@appualliyanaa
@appualliyanaa 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine shelling civilians of Donbas EU: cant here you mate US deploys weapons on Russian borders EU : I literally cant here you Belorussian vote rigging conspiracy appears EU: Lets make some moves, here comes the sanctions
@user-mx4sm9cv7e
@user-mx4sm9cv7e 2 жыл бұрын
@@appualliyanaa bruh he didn't even make it seem legit he won like 90% of the vote according to the government
@appualliyanaa
@appualliyanaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-mx4sm9cv7e does that mean its EU’s business?
@josemachado3915
@josemachado3915 2 жыл бұрын
You have clearly misinterpreted the law, which does not refer to said "pushbacks" but instead to collective expulsions of migrants or groups of people already inside EU territory, which these migrants are not and are being prevented from being. The EU member countries are well within their sovereign rights to refuse illegal entry into their territory. The real culprit for this situation is the decrepit despotic farse clinging to power in Belarus. It's not the EU's responsibility to clean up manufactured messes by dictators pulling publicity stunts.
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 2 жыл бұрын
Its immoral, they should have let them in from the beginning
@sidremus
@sidremus 2 жыл бұрын
You're also misinterpreting the law though. By law, the EU countries are all bound to not deny human rights AT their border either, asylum being one of them.
@puddleglum9179
@puddleglum9179 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree on the first point but the eu is still violating their laws since there are not providing basic human rights to people caught in irregular border crossing. I would also argue that even if it was legal it is still immoral, it's everyone's responsibility to help those in desperate need. And i think you agree as well, i doubt that if you saw a child dying in the streets or a baby in a dumpster that you would turn your back and ignore them. I don't think that the eu should be forced to give them permanent residence even tho that would be good thing, but at the very least provide basic human needs and a temporary visa until the refugees can make their case in accordance with international law.
@TandyAndersson
@TandyAndersson 2 жыл бұрын
​@@aturchomicz821 Wrong, rejecting illegal immigrants and defending your border is not immoral. It is Lukasjenko that is the bad guy here, not the EU.
@TandyAndersson
@TandyAndersson 2 жыл бұрын
@@sidremus What exactly do you mean by this? Do you mean that for example Poland should be giving supplies to the migrants on the other side of the border? Or do you mean asylum as in letting them in to the country and giving them protection?
@266jeremy8
@266jeremy8 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing I’ve seen on Vox in a long time. Keep it up!
@NPRixix
@NPRixix 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video, but it would be nice to have a better explanation of what "flights more than doubling compared to the same period last year" means in light of the pandemic.
@smilecolond69
@smilecolond69 2 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko is "Europe's last dictator." Putin: Am I a joke to you?
@haroldearlgray5629
@haroldearlgray5629 2 жыл бұрын
Putin still has enough public support to be viewed as legitimate
@knightsljx
@knightsljx 2 жыл бұрын
Russian is Asian, not Europe
@ehdrickjuaton2415
@ehdrickjuaton2415 2 жыл бұрын
Putin still is subjected to a 'democratic' process regardless of its legitmacy
@seanross9175
@seanross9175 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightsljx most Russian's including Putin live in European Russia.
@israelitesdayan
@israelitesdayan 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightsljx "Russia" is Europe since it's capital is in it while "Siberia"(which is the large east land mass of russia) is Asia... If Russia alone it would be located under Europe... Since the Kievan Russ and moscovy was in Europe in the start before expanding east
@aadishkadam
@aadishkadam 2 жыл бұрын
Would have made a great Vox borders episode
@nickkowalski5209
@nickkowalski5209 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now we have "uncharted" instead
@abh3870
@abh3870 2 жыл бұрын
it’s using borders formula
@buddyblris3094
@buddyblris3094 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickkowalski5209 let's wait uncharted to cover this.
@zytrik1
@zytrik1 2 жыл бұрын
Bring Harris back!
@XER0GRAVITY
@XER0GRAVITY 2 жыл бұрын
Harris is on his own now, he left a few years back.
@Lomudatshit
@Lomudatshit 2 жыл бұрын
Since I had my own child, I cannot watch clips of struggling, deprived and afraid migrant families, especially children, without feeling upset. So much for everyone being born into this world equally... There is no such thing. There is only luck. And hopefully after you get lucky at birth, you can get lucky again in life.
@jauharialafi
@jauharialafi 2 жыл бұрын
That's why we are here -- to help the less fortunate ones, in some way or another. :)
@AllPureSkill
@AllPureSkill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight
@AymenFri
@AymenFri 2 жыл бұрын
As an Algerian, I partially understand now why our own civilians migrates to Europe with no authorities involved to stop them. (Context : not because we have war or a crisis, the youth here have difficulties to find opportunities and make a good living and had enough with our society’s mentality and system. If I was offered to leave my beautiful country and leave my family behind for me and my wife to find a bright future for our kids, I unfortunately wouldn’t hesitate)
@owenb8636
@owenb8636 2 жыл бұрын
Most people would. I've moved between countries to better my life. I just have the resources to do it legally so no one has a problem with it.
@AymenFri
@AymenFri 2 жыл бұрын
@@owenb8636 yeah thing is I’m living the city where most migrants depart from here to Europe and I keep hearing news sometimes some succeed but most didn’t.
@wguid
@wguid 2 жыл бұрын
Living in poverty is like living in a perpetual state of war. Especially in poorer countries with next to no social safety nets
@iliashdz9106
@iliashdz9106 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Belgian from Moroccean origin and I can definitely understand. It's not helped by the fact that the conflict between Morocco and Algeria is weakening the countries.
@ihatebalrog
@ihatebalrog 2 жыл бұрын
I've a question: why don't you, y'know, instead of coming over to EU, build up your own countries and make life better there instead of coming over here, imposing sharia law, not even learning the local languages, making ZERO attempts at integration and completely disrespecting our people and traditions here? Okay, the western europe maybe, they're colonizers. But what the heck did the eastern europe ever do to you? Also, surprise newsflash, it's -16C here atm and it'll get colder. Weather's trash, it's cold and windy. And you live next to the mediterran. Makes no sense to me.
@drznadvago
@drznadvago 2 жыл бұрын
Another important part of the story omitted in this video is that Russia is preparing to invade Ukraine with the help of Belarus. The help consists of creating diversion at the EU border, letting the Russian army through and possibly participating in the agression
@mohammedibourki9376
@mohammedibourki9376 2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@michaelsimarmata5880
@michaelsimarmata5880 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedibourki9376 Observation You don't need high IQ to figure out their intentions
@dhaloh
@dhaloh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedibourki9376 It's in every Baltic countries news sites.
@MichaelNickolai
@MichaelNickolai 2 жыл бұрын
Try not to blindly follow mainstream news channels... Firstly, if Russia did plan on invading somewhere the likelihood is that they wouldn't be parading their forces for weeks for all the world to see. Also, what would be the cost vs benefit? Annexing Crimea was for to strategic navy advantage, it was something Russia would have never let go. Secondly Russia (as well as most allied countries) regularly hold military exercises. Russia holds its exercises once a year in different regions, if you look back at the history of these exercises you will see this is a scheduled planned event which is being promoted by the mainstream media as invasion prep
@keesbuhl6019
@keesbuhl6019 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelNickolai oh man, your funny excuses make drznadvago's theory much more plausible!
@jamsea794
@jamsea794 2 жыл бұрын
*Modern man is not the man who goes off to discover himself, his secrets, and his hidden truth; he is a man who tries to invest himself in something beneficial for the future.*
@suzanne7285
@suzanne7285 2 жыл бұрын
Personally as a first time investor, I started trading with Mr Salvador With $1,000 now my portfolio is worth $5,400 within the space of few months trading with him
@andrewjackson7511
@andrewjackson7511 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Salvador, Bep Bop, I’m a human.
@Matys1975
@Matys1975 2 жыл бұрын
What gives any person in the world the right to choose any country they want and demand entry and permanent residency? I live in the USA but I would like to demand permanent residency in Switzerland.
@valentin-oo4qr
@valentin-oo4qr 2 жыл бұрын
While I see your point, keep in mind that these refugees are not demanding entry into Europe just because they think Switzerland would be nice, they are leaving conflict areas. The first part of your statement still stands, but I believe you have compared apples to oranges here.
@semraairee6309
@semraairee6309 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your question really. Why wouldn't we have the right to live wherever we want? Just because you are born somewhere doesn't mean you want to live there? Especially when there is war. I mean, i am very privileged, my home country is a first world country. But i would love to live somewhere else, and with my passport it is quite easy to emigrate. Why is it different for people from places where there is war??
@sertaki
@sertaki 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest then you familiarize yourself with the Swiss immigration laws, I am sure there is a way to do it. Especially coming from a country like the US.
@prometheus4616
@prometheus4616 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I took me 5 years to get Canadian Residency, And I had to go through the legal process and prove my eligibility. Its kinda unsettling if somebody can just get the same by just entering illegally.
@sertaki
@sertaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@prometheus4616 Are you in general an adherent to the gospel of "I had it hard, so nobody else can have it easy, ever"?
@anastasiavoloshenko8013
@anastasiavoloshenko8013 2 жыл бұрын
"Europe's last dictator" Yeah, sure * crying in Russian *
@gt6225
@gt6225 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Russia isn't really considered Europe, so technically they aren't wrong.
@oldaccount9261
@oldaccount9261 2 жыл бұрын
*crying in Azerbaijani*
@anastasiavoloshenko8013
@anastasiavoloshenko8013 2 жыл бұрын
@@gt6225 Did you mean "isn't in European Union"? Because the last time i checked (and i live here, just to be clear) it is both in Europe and Asia
@Sueci
@Sueci 2 жыл бұрын
@@gt6225 what? But it is.
@Anurag-xe2jp
@Anurag-xe2jp 2 жыл бұрын
@@anastasiavoloshenko8013 I don't think Russian elections are rigged. Of course they're still not fair but still Putin is more of an autocrat
@m.tayyab3290
@m.tayyab3290 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of this video is an effort to suggest that the fault is on both sides, when it really is not. Letting migrants make asylum applications is indeed a right, and all EU countries abide by it, but it becomes untenable when a crisis is manufactured and there is an inflow of thousands of people at a single time. Striking deals with countries around the Mediterranean to keep out migrants is not the best solution, but it's the least bad solution. Allowing these desperate migrants to make perilous journeys right up to EU's borders is not only going to cause more suffering, it will inundate the EU's border to a point that asylum applications will become too much to handle. Considering the fact that most of the migrants are illegal economic migrants, a large inflow of people will hurt the claims of legitimate refugees, who will have to be kept out with the rest. Idealism is great, but sometimes one has to be grounded in the practical realities of the world too.
@davidmei3702
@davidmei3702 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly out of everyone here, you make the most logical sense.
@snpandsnb1953
@snpandsnb1953 2 жыл бұрын
Now if only Vox and liberal media applied this logic to the United States border too instead of calling it racist.
@MISIUYT
@MISIUYT 2 жыл бұрын
Well that is definitely true, but they didn't portray the EU Policy as negative. They just presented the facts. And it is a fact that human rights are being violated in these regions. That doesn't mean there is a better option to solving this problem.
@rjfaber1991
@rjfaber1991 2 жыл бұрын
It is, but it's also true that Poland and Greece both have a habit of doing everything in their power to stop people getting to the point of making an asylum application. It's a shame that two of the countries on Europe's outer border have an unfortunate recent history of being ruled by governments that see migrants primarily as a problem.
@sylviamontaez3889
@sylviamontaez3889 2 жыл бұрын
true. we dont have the capacity to help all refugees, but we should still try to help as many as we can.
@sizanix
@sizanix 2 жыл бұрын
So it seems that if the EU just changed their laws, the leverage that these countries have would disappear.
@jinjunliu2401
@jinjunliu2401 2 жыл бұрын
Then again, the influx of migrants would most likely be too much for the EU to handle
@Official2Shitty
@Official2Shitty 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@prado5557
@prado5557 2 жыл бұрын
it would be scandalous, it would stain their "good guys" reputation. obviously they don't *want* the immigrants, but they can't make it so obvious
@daveanderson3805
@daveanderson3805 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Poland, for protecting Europe's Eastern border Please stay strong for all our sakes Love and appreciation from Britain
@0witw047
@0witw047 2 жыл бұрын
Protecting the border from what exactly? Cold and Hungry looking for someplace to live and work?
@tasbykekerey1203
@tasbykekerey1203 2 жыл бұрын
Britain doesn't belong to EU anymore
@juanperezmartinez1771
@juanperezmartinez1771 2 жыл бұрын
@Junior That's mainly due to eastern european migrants (polish,russian,romanian)
@Mimi-mq2wj
@Mimi-mq2wj 2 жыл бұрын
England left the eu m8😂 you don’t have to accept immigrants anymore (not that you did much compared to other countries anyway )
@daveanderson3805
@daveanderson3805 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mimi-mq2wj The EU is a political organisation,and yes,Britain is no longer part of that However, Britain is part of Europe geographical and cultural Britain is part of European civilisation Wether Belarus succeeds or fails in their attempts to destabilise our security welfare and civilisation concerns every european We are all threatened by this jehadi invasion We will survive together, or we will be destroyed together
@user-ky9qn4pg3w
@user-ky9qn4pg3w 2 жыл бұрын
Few mistakes with the translation "If you lose your first president it will be the beginning of the end." He actually said - If you lose your president it will be the beginning of your end. "If you want to go in the western direction we won't capture, smother, or beat you up. It's your will. If you want to go, go." He actually said - If you can get through/manage to get through, go.
@falling_homer
@falling_homer 2 жыл бұрын
Thx
@Panthers1521
@Panthers1521 2 жыл бұрын
What is Europe suppose to do? Take everyone in?! Its a terrible situation, but i don't think they have a choice.
@rajatlotw
@rajatlotw 2 жыл бұрын
The number of migrants would be much less if NATO were not playing in Iraq and Syria. An unjustified war has produced unjustified consequences.
@nehakumar9918
@nehakumar9918 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajatlotw What about the war in Yemen?
@alcabone1126
@alcabone1126 2 жыл бұрын
There aren't even that many migrants currently and many of which are only there because of the EU's interference in other countries. I think the UK as well should take migrants since we helped imvade iraq(with eu countries like poland).
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 2 жыл бұрын
Just imprison everyone and create law that makes inmates pay for themself
@Lennard222
@Lennard222 2 жыл бұрын
One step would be to do the border control themselves instead of other countries who exploit the immigrant.
@gnikh
@gnikh 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are just so so so well produced.
@tnganthavee100
@tnganthavee100 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vox for covering this. You and your team made this issue much easier to understand.
@devinhigoy221
@devinhigoy221 2 жыл бұрын
This is a terrible state of affairs. The Belarusian dictatorship should be ashamed.
@phanferdinandguestgaming2076
@phanferdinandguestgaming2076 2 жыл бұрын
Shame On You, Lukashenko! 😠😠😠😠
@giovannip8600
@giovannip8600 2 жыл бұрын
Europe trying to outsource the migration crisis paying EU money to non EU Nations is laughable... Just genius move...
@TheLuxGuy2018
@TheLuxGuy2018 2 жыл бұрын
@@bacillus2424 wrong thing*
@EveloGrave
@EveloGrave 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLuxGuy2018 I think they said that in sarcasm because everyone is in the wrong here except the migrants themselves.
@miliba
@miliba 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLuxGuy2018 Poland shall defend Europe as they did back in 1683
@deepakjose5940
@deepakjose5940 2 жыл бұрын
Why EU ? Why cant prominent ME nations like Saudi and Oman and UAE welcome these migrants ?
@meskisable
@meskisable 2 жыл бұрын
Because arabs hate other arabs.
@dhaloh
@dhaloh 2 жыл бұрын
Cause they see through these people. They know that these migrants are lazy and don't want to work. In UAE, Oman, etc. they would have to work. In Germany they can claim they need help and live off of the free money benefits.
@skepticcat2443
@skepticcat2443 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhaloh this pretty much, the EU needs to update its asylum and immigration criteria, refugees from Iraq or Afghanistan I can get behind, but why should we welcome economic migrants whose countries of origin are stable and at peace?
@beth-xg7gi
@beth-xg7gi 2 жыл бұрын
They know would never put up with thier demanding anything!!
@EnkiduSA17
@EnkiduSA17 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Saudi and I could answer this by 3 main ideas First, Saudi Arabia has a total of 2.5 million Syrian residents by the year 2015 also, the SA has other countries' immigrants which total 36% of the overall population. Second, prominent ME nations are all drained and weakened by western&Russian control over their resources...etc and U.S ensures that the ME dictators are still in their places to maintain leverage (same goes for Russia). Third, being ruled by dictators for long times and having them all around make these countries have a weaker unsustainable economy and in the end, no one wants to flee a dictator for sake of having another dictator to be ruled under. Hope I delivered my thoughts (Edited just to fix a couple of grammatical errors and typos)
@sunriser6182
@sunriser6182 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 99% to whatever you said/ portrayed. Just one point. The guidelines of the EU apply to the countries of EU. When the video talked about the EU failing the migrants, humanly yes it's true. But the reality is, that they're technically not in the EU. So these guidelines don't apply to them.
@AinaWarCrim
@AinaWarCrim 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god you guys covered this properly
@Just4Kixs
@Just4Kixs 2 жыл бұрын
This video was well made and explained so many things! Thank you for the Atlas series. I really love them and hope that you can make more!
@presidenttogekiss635
@presidenttogekiss635 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can see, the code prevents EXPULSION. But these people arent in Poland/Lithuania, so they arent being expulsed, they´re just being denied entry.
@user-wr9hc6gf2n
@user-wr9hc6gf2n 2 жыл бұрын
The moment they step into poland borders, they are inside poland and EU law kicks in. They are being denied entry, thats true, but they are still able to break down barriers and enter illegaly. Just because they entered illegaly, does not mean that their minimum rights granted to them dont apply.
@huihui5059
@huihui5059 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wr9hc6gf2n No. For law to kick in you have to cross legally at point of entry.
@user-wr9hc6gf2n
@user-wr9hc6gf2n 2 жыл бұрын
@@huihui5059 Human Rights apply anywhere, no matter which door you pass through.
@huihui5059
@huihui5059 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wr9hc6gf2n Migration is not a human right, but privlige given by native inhabitants, that they can give away in quantities they wish to and to people they wish to.
@user-wr9hc6gf2n
@user-wr9hc6gf2n 2 жыл бұрын
@@huihui5059 The united Nations have signed treaties and declarations. They have to respect for human rights of humans inside their nation, regardless of their status. People like you should read up on the topic a bit more, this lack of knowledge is extremely dangerous.
@Apurva021
@Apurva021 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thanks!!
@lionblaze210
@lionblaze210 2 жыл бұрын
It's really sad what's happening in Belarus rn, my parents came from there almost 26 years ago now on the Jewish Refugee program, but now they can hardly go back there safely to even visit.
@aleksk318
@aleksk318 2 жыл бұрын
No EU laws were broken Vox. Get it right. They are on the Belarusian side and the ones that have been apprehended on the Polish side were sent to Refugee camps under Polish and EU law
@kingofhoneybadgers
@kingofhoneybadgers 2 жыл бұрын
Of course no EU laws were broken when these migrants were prevented from crossing to the EU/Poland. Migrants are kept back with tear gas, barbed wire and brute force. They don't even have a chance of making it to the refugee camps when it's almost physically impossible to make the crossing. 🙄
@aleksk318
@aleksk318 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofhoneybadgers exactly no laws were broken and there would be no tear gas and barbed wire if they were not cutting down the border fence and throwing rocks at our soldiers
@aleksk318
@aleksk318 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofhoneybadgers common sense
@mufadakar3141
@mufadakar3141 2 жыл бұрын
@@aleksk318 No, there were many situations when Migrants were pushed back even when they'd been on the polish side.
@aleksk318
@aleksk318 2 жыл бұрын
@@mufadakar3141 proof
@brotalnia
@brotalnia 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody has a right to relocate wherever they want to. Europe is not a homeless shelter.
@commie_remover
@commie_remover 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with common sense.
@onbekend960
@onbekend960 2 жыл бұрын
But imagine youre in their position, living in a country thats controlled by dictators, in a country where its war, in a country you dont have the opportunities to make something of your live. Wouldnt you try to go to a safe country/region where you will probaly have a good live.
@SmileyIQ
@SmileyIQ 2 жыл бұрын
And who made you or anyone else the owner of this earth?
@commie_remover
@commie_remover 2 жыл бұрын
@@onbekend960 they don’t search for safety, they just transit through Europe to go the the richest countries to feed them. (Not talking about refugees who truly need help, but economic migrants like these).
@commie_remover
@commie_remover 2 жыл бұрын
@@SmileyIQ I'm the owner of my taxes and my land, so I also have the rights to not let illegal migrants into my country. However if they enter legally like everyone else, then I have absolutely no problem.
@user-sl3fv8tn9u
@user-sl3fv8tn9u 2 жыл бұрын
Vox, you did mistake. Ukraine also applied sanctions against Lukashenko, so now is possible to flight to Belarus only through Russia.
@ghostgustav2486
@ghostgustav2486 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny that for foreigners the most tricky and unsafe way to travel in Minsk is via Russia
@imweird3363
@imweird3363 2 жыл бұрын
Also in our country, Latvia, already about 1500 immigrants sneaked into, because our border was the weakest
@qorazx
@qorazx 2 жыл бұрын
Great report, super video! Was not aware of any of this. Thanks for covering this tragedy!
@marcinrucinski
@marcinrucinski 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not using "no man's land term" like some do. good explanation. Good video
@Viruseek1337
@Viruseek1337 2 жыл бұрын
You're suggesting that solution to the problem is to let them in. That's naive.
@TheMaxx95
@TheMaxx95 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Sweden and I have never seen the EU on this side
@andrijherasymenko
@andrijherasymenko 2 жыл бұрын
Vox calling Lukashenko Europe's last dictator. Putin: Am I a joke to you?
@gottimw
@gottimw 2 жыл бұрын
Putin is Tzar
@LizziesLukas
@LizziesLukas 2 жыл бұрын
it's not Vox who called him that... It's how the entire mainstream media described him
@nazarsheshuriak8689
@nazarsheshuriak8689 2 жыл бұрын
russia is not europe lol
@xciimani7513
@xciimani7513 2 жыл бұрын
Russia is not Europe and will never be
@car5lota33
@car5lota33 2 жыл бұрын
This video is so good it should have so many more views
@Mikey-cc2ny
@Mikey-cc2ny 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way this is presented!
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 2 жыл бұрын
Lukashenko claimed his sympathies to the Hitler, and there's an audio record of that. Boris Nemtsov one of the major critics of Putin's regime described Lukashenko as a "slavic Gaddafi, he's a killer, dictator, he has nowhere to retreat, he burned all the bridges, he is a completely deranged person" in March of 2011. The girlfriend of Roman Protasevich - Sofia Sapega is Russian citizen and she was with Roman, she faces imprisonment for about 6 years, despite of cooperating with authorities in exchange for house arrest at least. She's in shock right now and Russia is hardly willing to do anything. Also, check documentary "An Ordinary president" 1996, highly critical of Lukashenko. Apparently Lukashenko involved in assassination of opposition leaders for a long time, take the case of disappearance of Yury Zacharanka for example.
@bahdan5573
@bahdan5573 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information! Lukashenko is indeed one of the bloodiest dictators this continent has seen in the past decades. Considering the current scale of repressions in Belarus, we, Belarusians, often compare him to his idols - Hitler and Gaddafi. And this story had begun long before Putin could be technically added to the list of European dictators. Perhaps that's why the nickname of "Europe's last dictator" has stuck to Lukashenko so firmly. He has been abusing the people of Belarus for over a quarter of a century already.
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 2 жыл бұрын
@@bahdan5573 Привет из Питера) Жыве Беларусь!
@bahdan5573
@bahdan5573 2 жыл бұрын
@@quite1enough Жыве!
@antoniorsoftware
@antoniorsoftware 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, in what kind of isolated fantasy world do you live ? Look at Lybia now without Gaddafi, destroyed in tribal wars, a failed state. If Lukashenko is like Gaddafi then he should stay in power for as long as he can otherwise Belarus will be in ruins.
@bahdan5573
@bahdan5573 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoniorsoftware sorry dude, but it's narrow-minded. If you believe that the fact that Lybia ended up being a failed state is the consequence of Gaddafi's death, but not Gaddafi's 42 years of repressive rule, then we are not likely to find a common ground in the discussion. The longer Lukashenko stays in power polarising Belarusian society and blocking any alternatives to this tyranny, the more chances for Belarus to end up as a failed state.
@billyballbags
@billyballbags 2 жыл бұрын
Don't misunderstand what rights those migrants had in this situation. They don't have a right to freely enter a country that isn't their own. They have a right to medical care, to not be separated from family, and non-refoulement. National governments, on the other hand, have a clear right to determine who may and may not enter the country.
@raiden233
@raiden233 2 жыл бұрын
EU gives migrants the right to officially seek asylum in the country that intercepted their crossing too
@awwastor
@awwastor 2 жыл бұрын
They do have the right to asylum in the country they were trying to enter in, according to EU law and the UN charter of human rights.
@shapelessed
@shapelessed 2 жыл бұрын
@@awwastor Yes, they do, but in this situation they are not just people, but weapons used by Lukashenko... If your neighbor pushed some stranger through your window, what would you do, pay his bills, take care of him? Or would you push him back right where he came from?
@henriqueesteves7162
@henriqueesteves7162 2 жыл бұрын
@@awwastor That's just abusing the meaning of asylum and international laws. Asylum is reserved for refugees, not for every economic migrants seeking a better life. The problem with the European migration crisis is that every migrant who comes asks for asylum, and they come in the hundreds of thousands.
@henriqueesteves7162
@henriqueesteves7162 2 жыл бұрын
*they arrive
@blazing1887
@blazing1887 2 жыл бұрын
Again proves that Human lives' have no value to this kind of politicians.
@sarahlacey8921
@sarahlacey8921 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'd really like to use the image shown at 8:30 for an assignment with a full credit to you - would that be possible please?
@telotawa
@telotawa 2 жыл бұрын
"europe's last dictator", cmon, are you forgetting putin?
@alexjoy9693
@alexjoy9693 2 жыл бұрын
Since Russia is part of Europe and Asia it’s in a league of its own
@chatnoir1224
@chatnoir1224 2 жыл бұрын
As Russian i will say - keep pushing EU! More sanction on Lukashenko regime! Close the borders completely. No trade or negotiations with terrorists. Poland be strong! Belarussian brothers - don't give up. Dictatorship will fall in Belarus, and then, like domino, in Russia as well. For our freedom and yours ! Za naszą i waszą wolność ! За нашу и вашу свободу !
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 2 жыл бұрын
yeah this situation is basically geological political gaslighting
@stomil
@stomil 2 жыл бұрын
That's weird. Most Russians I've talked to supported Putin and current anti EU/Polish agenda.
@astroantares
@astroantares 2 жыл бұрын
We are just ROFL on you. "Europe"
@toosas
@toosas 2 жыл бұрын
@@astroantares what are you trying to say "ази"?
@VinOnline
@VinOnline 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible reporting Vox!
@rattler3907
@rattler3907 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how they want to escape the warzone, but not to the nearest safe country, but straight to Germany, France or UK.
@AinaWarCrim
@AinaWarCrim 2 жыл бұрын
They already mostly do it and the bordering countries already have a big number of immigrants, to the point that anti immigration parties are getting more and more power, so that's why they get sent there
@misha.serduk
@misha.serduk 2 жыл бұрын
If I were Lukashenka, I would be very happy about this video, I read the message here as "yeah, the last dictator of Europe is doing mean things, but it is EU's fault too", and it is just the logic both him and Putin want us to exercise, so they can come and say the world is grey and their dictatorship can continue to exist.
@meocean5499
@meocean5499 2 жыл бұрын
And they would be right. You sound as if pleading to hide factual truths. Is the truth what’s been shown. The EU is partially at fault. They breed dictators when they shift their responsibilities to other people. Lol
@Subli8217
@Subli8217 2 жыл бұрын
umm EU is absolutely monstrous too for not letting in immigrants.
@markusmeldre
@markusmeldre 2 жыл бұрын
Overall good video, but 6:10: most of the migrants didn't actually cross into the EU so they were not expelled from the EU
@aatifnazar8203
@aatifnazar8203 Жыл бұрын
fell in love with the ending sound note
@chanelvitale6512
@chanelvitale6512 2 жыл бұрын
This explains alot....
@zsadanyferjancsik9701
@zsadanyferjancsik9701 2 жыл бұрын
Yet again a grate video by Vox. Captures a new perspective and shows it to audience of millions.
@freakyscottdude
@freakyscottdude 2 жыл бұрын
Vox: The Eu has created a crisis Assad: Oh good, that means I'm off the hook
@toosas
@toosas 2 жыл бұрын
this needs to go higher!
@AttaBek1422
@AttaBek1422 2 жыл бұрын
Well if they aren’t going to stop selling him weapons and compromising with him, at the very least they can take in all the people who don’t want to live in a mafia-state
@commie_remover
@commie_remover 2 жыл бұрын
@@AttaBek1422 are you on drugs? It’s Putin who is selling weapons to al-Assad, and surprisingly, Russia in not a part of the EU.
@jpmugishapps
@jpmugishapps 2 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting watch.
@manushetgar
@manushetgar 2 жыл бұрын
Quality journalism!
@dimitrispolychroniadis2545
@dimitrispolychroniadis2545 2 жыл бұрын
my question is, where was this kind of an episode when Turkey was doing the exact same thing to Greece, last year, "weaponizing" immigrants . Especially since Turkey was doing it despite being paid off by the EU not to, and especially cause they are still doing it, admittedly not to the same extent .
@syimirsafrizal3983
@syimirsafrizal3983 2 жыл бұрын
i bet you didn't watch the entire video
@Oldmanplum
@Oldmanplum 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile France is freely allowing Migrants to travel across the channel to get into the UK, allowing human traffickers to operate out in the open in a northern France in clear view of Police all while simultaneously decrying the actions of Belarus
@dimitrispolychroniadis2545
@dimitrispolychroniadis2545 2 жыл бұрын
​@@syimirsafrizal3983 love the unsubstantiated response .
@xXmennovichXx
@xXmennovichXx 2 жыл бұрын
​@Uncle Thomas Turkey is next to syria you know that right? The migration flow is not the same, like at all.
@xXmennovichXx
@xXmennovichXx 2 жыл бұрын
Flying in migrants, yes totally the same as bordering Syria. Balrus created it's own problem, Turkey did not.
@Pandzikizlasu80
@Pandzikizlasu80 2 жыл бұрын
Pushbacks ware legal, because of the declared state of emergency and 3km wide exclusion zone established on the Polish side of the border. From the Polish side you either can't enter it without the authorities permission. State of emergency and closing an area is in the states authority and thousands of people including Belarusian military illegally crossing the border, yes Belarusian soldiers crossed it a couple of times, is a very good reason to declare it. In fact last year, during the first wave of cov, almost the whole Europe was closed that way.
@ChickenMcThiccken
@ChickenMcThiccken 2 жыл бұрын
border policies are nothing new. its been happening since the very first empire was ever established.
@Guidus125
@Guidus125 2 жыл бұрын
Superb video. As a European I found this to be very shocking and some of it is really not talked about enough
@tennesseewhiskey_
@tennesseewhiskey_ 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation
@mopozuJIko
@mopozuJIko 2 жыл бұрын
So you're going to blame EU for not wanting to accept migrants that are tring to break in in such numbers that haven't been heard of? No criticism of the regimes that these people are trying to flee? I agree that helping those in need is a noble cause, but has its limits - the wealth of the EU citizents is not infinite and they can onlu share so much.
@kgpz100
@kgpz100 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, now apply this to the United States.
@hi__im_zack4890
@hi__im_zack4890 2 жыл бұрын
My interpretation of the video was that blame was given to all parties. EU for breaking their own laws and pushing back migrants and Belarus for essentially human trafficking and using people as political pawns. However, we are talking about real human lives that are at the border. If the video focused solely on Belarus or other countries putting people in these situations, then that would ignore the actual people who are being harmed at the border. This is because the EU could let them in, as in accordance with their laws, instead of violently pushing them back to win the political war against Belarus. These problems aren't always a simple as who was the original perpetrator.
@Allegro11Maestoso
@Allegro11Maestoso 2 жыл бұрын
The two critiques are not mutually exclusive.
@stephanvelines7006
@stephanvelines7006 2 жыл бұрын
EU law is complicated as the constitutions of various members states do not accept law made outside of their respective (national) constitutional courts. In the end, their is conflict between EU paragraphs and National state law making. Yet the EU claims its jurisdiction applied to all member states regardless. The courts of Germany, France and recently Poland have refuted these claims by the EU courts more or less sharply. Germany f.e. has reprimanded the work of the EU Supreme Court (EuGH) on checking that the ECB (EU central bank) keeps to his mandate (of price stability) and would step in of the court does not check the ECB and take issues in their own hands (and retrieve the Bundesbank from the ECB system, actively ending the Euro-Zone). The EU Supreme Court replied the German Supreme Court is overrules already which the German Supreme Court denied. Poland Supreme Court has recently made a similar point.
@prajwalwarad3318
@prajwalwarad3318 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, I don't understand what these so called rich countries like SaudiArabia, Qatar, UAE won't take these refugees? After all they belong to same faith. European citizens must understand this and stand against taking of refugees from middle-east and africa. It's high time and they will face severe cultural consequences in the future.
@bramgiraffe4135
@bramgiraffe4135 2 жыл бұрын
Although it is indeed contrary to EU law to push migrants back, VOX fails to explain one important detail: EU law is not above the law of the individual nation state. This means that Poland can do whatever it pleases in regards to its own border, and EU border guards like Frontex can only assist and not make their own plans. In order to have a coherent border policy across all of EU's external borders they need to be controlled at the federal level. And that is not going to happen anytime soon. So until then the policies that govern the EU's borderlands will be fractured as it is now. This is why the EU pays off all these other countries: it's the only way for them to have power over ANY external border. Nevertheless, it's a sad situation for those trapped in these awful camps.
@sgaleta
@sgaleta 2 жыл бұрын
Just to add to this. It depends on the case. Usually the EU sets limits (minimums and maximums) and the states can choose, a recent example of this would be the Added Value Tax. EU law is above nations laws, its just that many times EU doesn't technically make laws, but rather recomendations. Also the EU usually ignores certain "law breaking" by nations as is the case in many nations (everyone is equal, everyone should have a home, bla bla bla).
@khan-cricket
@khan-cricket 2 жыл бұрын
Nevertheless I as an Asian outsider find the situation far more sad if EU be flooded by migrants. Those hypocrisies who don't even care how to govern the country and their so called "kindness" only lead to social crisis within. Like German had some taste of it when Merkel trying to show off how generous German is
@tatianaweiss6254
@tatianaweiss6254 2 жыл бұрын
The principles of the EU are that its law is very much above the law of the nation states.
@BS-Fact-checker
@BS-Fact-checker 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing most forget to mention is sovereignty. Also if these migrants were to settle in your own home town would you think differently about migration? Especially knowing it was politically motivated and not a humanitarian gesture.
@tatianaweiss6254
@tatianaweiss6254 2 жыл бұрын
@@BS-Fact-checker Yes, the principle of sovereignty is that the entering states sovereignly and willingly pass their authority to the EU. Very different from the international law. I would think the same because "these migrants" are people who need help.
@AV-db5fb
@AV-db5fb 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like something out of a tv show
@Yes10292
@Yes10292 5 ай бұрын
I see veiled condemnation about the EU response but nothing in here about the societal disruption which a massive influx of people from a completely different country, culture and language can cause. It takes time, money, effort and a boatload of tolerance to accept large numbers of refugees.
@WolfetoneRebel1916
@WolfetoneRebel1916 2 жыл бұрын
To claim that the EU, Poland, Lithuania or Latvia failed the migrants in this scenario is ridiculous. That would be like like blaming Bolivia. We all know where the blame lies, no need to spread it around without reason.
@SanFranFan30
@SanFranFan30 2 жыл бұрын
where does the blame lay?
@yucol5661
@yucol5661 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they wouldn’t have this issue if the EU set up the refugee camps or managed the immigrants. Can’t use a problem that does exist as blackmail, so if there was no migrants going to Belarus then they wouldn’t have this issue. Not that it’s an end of the world issue, if it was it would have never been outsourced.
@peterisawesomeplease
@peterisawesomeplease 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh the blame lies many places but they are included. The EU or for that matter most of the developed world could absorb way more people if they wanted too. They could also incentives people to stay in their home countries fairly cheaply. A libertarian perspective and a liberal one both lead to the conclusion that people should have the right to move freely between countries. In addition even if they want to keep migrants out they should do it on their own borders. Of course the blame also lies on the leaders in places that the people are leaving from. And it certainly also lies on Belarus/Putin specifically for tricking migrants.
@keesbuhl6019
@keesbuhl6019 2 жыл бұрын
Can you really tell, where the blame lies? I think the matter is much more complicated.
@Catwoman1464
@Catwoman1464 2 жыл бұрын
@@yucol5661 they flew them in via Turkey, so Lukaschenko created a new problem
@ultimatelifeform6163
@ultimatelifeform6163 2 жыл бұрын
I’m early 18 and we can’t go to my moms side of the family in Belarus because they are forcing 18 year olds with Belarusian passports to the military. I’ll have to be waiting for a new leader or fly them here cause I’ll be serving the US Air Force.
@channel_abc123_
@channel_abc123_ 2 жыл бұрын
Respect from UA
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 2 жыл бұрын
Well you are stuck in military anyways it seems. Belarusian or USA. So whats the difference?
@ericalexandermentaberry8487
@ericalexandermentaberry8487 2 жыл бұрын
@@cactuslietuva Mmmh i dont like the taste of this boot better give me the imperialist one
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 2 жыл бұрын
@@marioferreira7605 You clearly haven't been to Belarus. Also USA is a federation of states. Not every state has California living standards. The original comment of being not able to live in Belarus cause he doesn't want to join the army, but he back fires when he says he wants to join usa air force. Basically he is going be government tool anyway. And if war brakes down between Belarus and NATO he will the one bombing his mother side.
@legokingtm9462
@legokingtm9462 2 жыл бұрын
@@marioferreira7605 No, one have Emma and two moms
@schrodingerrocks7807
@schrodingerrocks7807 2 жыл бұрын
Someone please tell me name of sound track at last of video
@DarthLateralus
@DarthLateralus 2 жыл бұрын
One of Vox's best videos in a while! Excellent work
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