Why the Creation-Evolution Issue is so Important!

[@creationministriesintl]

The link where you can get your free copy of The Creation Answer Book (mentioned at the end of the video) is: creation.com/pages/smvp-cab

[@Bojojoans]

I got an error code. Pity. Nevertheless, an interesting part was: ".... as the DAY come to a close, and the sun was hitting the pacific ocean......", is so naturally on point as the process of the sun setting heralds the end of the DAY and the transition (= evening) to the NIGTH previously known as 'darkness' in Genesis 1.

[@NoTrashInHeaven]

Great metaphor of the cultural storm pulling unprepared Believers out to the sea of indifference.

[@MaxxxImpact]

Not only did God create everything we can touch and see in 6 days, He did it as an example to us and gave us a schedule of work 6 days and rest 1 day, like an loving Father would. He could have created everything in a millisecond if He wanted to.

[@alantasman8273]

It is sad when Christians try to shoehorn deep-time into the scriptures when it is clearly not there. Exodus 20:11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. In Six literal 24hr days everything was created...to give context God rested on the seventh 24hr day as an example for man to rest one day in seven and keep the sabbath holy. God did not rest for millions or billions of years on day seven as an example for man to follow. Adam was created on day six of creation..sometime after day six, Adam sinned. The bible teaches that the wages of sin is death. There was no death before Adam's original sin. The Bible provides the genealogy of the generations from Adam to Jesus the Christ. From this genealogy we can determine the age of the Earth to be some 6,000 plus years old. Deep time is a myth.

[@tiry1346]

When I read Gen 2:19,20, it seems impossible to me that Adam could have gone through so many experiences within a few hours of the 6th day of creation. The things that took place are as follows (I am not including the creation of the animals, which were created on the same day, only things from Adam's perspective) - Man had a job that required time to observe animals (from the Hebrew names of animals, it is clear that some really required a long time to observe, e.g. stork, Heb. chasidah). - Although he enjoyed the work, he had to realize that he had no partner, although God was available and apparently spoke to him. - He certainly ate, drank, and went to the toilet (in my opinion, these would precede the need for a wife), and since all these things were new to him (including walking, etc.), he would hardly feel blue for lack of companionship. - He slept while Eve was being created. - He composed his first poem. - He attended his own wedding where they received God's blessing. As I said, this seems to me extremely unlikely, even impossible, to happen in one day. I would say it must have taken much longer. Have you ever considered this question from this perspective? If so, what is your explanation?

[@alantasman8273]

@@tiry1346Nowhere in scripture does it say God did all those thing on day six. And he certainly did not do them on day seven.

[@tiry1346]

@@alantasman8273 Day 6 is covered in Gen.1:24-31. It is clearly stated there that the creation of Eve was included on the day 6. Events in Gen.2:20 must have happened on the day 6. If you have other explanation or resources to check in this regard, please share.

[@bbl5499]

​@@tiry1346 I think Eve IS created after Adam was brought in the garden and presented the animals, and this happened in the second week after the 1st Sabbath.

[@HookahStank]

It does not say 24hrs, if creation starts before light was created in the form of the sun, moon and stars, then what is there to measure time? Without measuring the rotation of the earth around the sun, a day could be anything. A day could be 36hrs, or a year on a different planet. I agree in the Biblical timeline but it doesn't say the earth is 6,000 years old, it's closer to 12,000 - 14,000 years old. 2 Peter 3:8 states, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let THEM (plural) have dominion over the fish of the sea... 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God had created and made. 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. ("of the field" refers to crops like corn and wheat) 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. (So in this time plants and trees grew for food on the ancient misty earth without the need for crops.) 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. So you see, on the 6th "day" (1 day = 1,000 years) God made man and told them to multiply and spread about the earth. On the 7th day he rested, and THEN he made Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden. By that time the fallen angels had already fallen and had been corrupting mankind for at least a thousand years, giving rise to these ancient kings who were said to be powerful giants, and mythical Gods like Zeus and Odin, who I've always thought sounded more like superpowered humans than "Gods." That's because they still had divine DNA from the fallen angels creating lineages with mankind. Genesis 6:4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days; and also that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who were these "men of renown?" I believe they were the fallen angles and their descendants, the Nephilim. That's why the ancient Sumerian civilization was said to have begun around 5,300 BC, and why "Divine Pharaoh's" that the Egyptians claimed preceded them date back before 13,000 years ago. The fallen angels had already been corrupting humanity for generations, and all these "Godlike" kings and Pharaohs I believe were either the descendants of, or the fallen angels themselves. The Sabbath in the Bible didn't just refer to weeks, but there were other "Sabbath's" like months and years, and it seems that major events in history tend to happen within cycles of 7, whether it be every 7 days, 7 years, or every 7,000 years. So I believe this rough timeline makes much more sense from both a Biblical and Archeological/Historical perspective.

[@moxadurgin2508]

I am so thankful for Creation Ministeries and the Creation Museum and all the others I have found. I am a prodigal. I got lost BECAUSE of evolution theory. I am glad to be back!

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

Amen CMI 🙏🙏🙏✝️ God's word is truth and can be trusted in all things. You are such a blessing to the body of Christ. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you do. I mean that in all sincerity. You are truly a blessing.

[@HoneyHollowHomestead]

Another good resource is this channel and Answers In Genesis.

[@showreelsarchive]

and ICR

[@HoneyHollowHomestead]

@@showreelsarchive Yes, thank you.

[@garykistler4561]

Romans 3;4 says, Let Gods word be true, and every man a liar; as it is written. Satan played this oldie but goodie in the garden. Did God say? Gods word is above man’s wisdom. If Gods word says 6 days, and on the 7th he rested. I’m pitching my tent with his word.

[@Mae3-xp9nq]

Yes. God rested, blessed and sanctified the seventh day.

[@guzz7842]

@@Mae3-xp9nq A God with infinite power and energy, was tired ? Tired to give orders like: " let the light be " , He was rested, until one day he woke up, and " work " for six days doing the creation, then , at the seventh day he rested for ever, what a lazy God, wake up and create something else....

[@guzz7842]

Let´s focus in the phrase: " and every man a liar " , so, who wrote the bible ? Man´s. Who sayd God was talking to me to write his words? Man´s, that means , it´s just only lies from man´s...

[@alantasman8273]

@@guzz7842 God could have made everything in a instant but he chose a literal six 24hr days as an example for man with the seventh day as a day of rest. The Six days of creation showed the power and glory of God day by day. It is an illustration of Gods patience in teaching man.

[@lettersandwordsandstuffs]

​@@alantasman8273he also chose the jews and allowed them to beat slaves and burn animals for him 😊 how nice

[@Smith.Wesson.432UC]

6 days baby

[@007gracie]

😎🙌🏻

[@BornAgain223]

amen ❤️ 🙏

[@andrewdouglas1963]

According to genesis, God didn't create the sun until day 4. So how could 'days' as we understand them exist before the sun was created, and how long were these 'days'?

[@TheLifeProject-rs1jw]

@@andrewdouglas1963good question. The earth was created in 6 days and on the 7th he looked and saw that it was good. God uses numbers in many different ways and does a lot of symbolism. Think about the 7 seals in revelations. Then number 7 means perfection. It’s been 6 thousands years since earth was created. Is it so off to say that the 7 seals represent 7,000 years of His children being on earth? What if the 6 days the earth was created was Him relating the creation days to be taken like the other 7 days. God works outside the bounds of space and time. He’s relating it to us. But 1,000 years to us could be 1 day to God. It’s a lot to think about I know. But I read a lot and think to much sometimes

[@HookahStank]

@@TheLifeProject-rs1jw Exactly. I agree in the Biblical timeline but it doesn't say the earth is 6,000 years old, it's likely closer to 12,000 - 14,000 years old. 2 Peter 3:8 states, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let THEM (plural) have dominion over the fish of the sea... 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God had created and made. 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. ("of the field" refers to crops like corn and wheat) 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. (So in this time plants and trees grew for food on the ancient misty earth without the need for crops.) 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. So you see, on the 6th "day" (1 day = 1,000 years) God made man and told them to multiply and spread about the earth. On the 7th day he rested, and THEN he made Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden. By that time the fallen angels had already fallen and had been corrupting mankind for at least a thousand years, giving rise to these ancient kings who were said to be powerful giants, and mythical Gods like Zeus and Odin, who I've always thought sounded more like superpowered humans than "Gods." That's because they still had divine DNA from the fallen angels creating lineages with mankind. Genesis 6:4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days; and also that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who were these "men of renown?" I believe they were the fallen angles and their descendants, the Nephilim. That's why the ancient Sumerian civilization was said to have begun around 5,300 BC, and why "Divine Pharaoh's" that the Egyptians claimed preceded them date back before 13,000 years ago. The fallen angels had already been corrupting humanity for generations, and all these "Godlike" kings and Pharaohs I believe were either the descendants of, or the fallen angels themselves. The Sabbath in the Bible didn't just refer to weeks, but there were other "Sabbath's" like months and years, and it seems that major events in history tend to happen within cycles of 7, whether it be every 7 days, 7 years, or every 7,000 years. So I believe this rough timeline makes much more sense from both a Biblical and Archeological/Historical perspective.

[@TheBillypitts]

If someone tries to validate God through the Bible and/or another ancient book or scripture, this will not work too, as the Bible is The Appeal to Authority Fallacy, you can't validate something only by the source alone.

[@Vetforlife]

Dr. Greg Bahnsen has a four hour video on KZbin for students who about to head off to college. This class will prepare them against opposition from all sides. It’s titled “Basic Training for Defending the Faith”.

[@ethanfulton9659]

@@Vetforlife thanks! I will be watching this

[@jasonjackson9070]

Scientifically speaking, if God created the heavens and the earth where did God come from. Also considering that in the Bible it's says Gods (as in more than one) what are they're names and why aren't they mentioned in the bible?

[@mikewiththebluecar]

The Bible mentions gods as in idols of worship. Men carved all kinds of images of animals and such and began worshipping them. They weren’t actual gods, but these people believed that they were even tho they had created these carved statues & figurines themselves. The Bible specifically says that there are no actual gods other than the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. The God of Israel.

[@DavidDancs-ei7pr]

Nice one Brothers, good work. God Bless You Both.

[@tzgardner]

Great content in this video! How do you address the teachings of Meredith Kline, Hugh Ross and William Lane Craig teachings?

[@guipe43]

Excellently done! Thank you for sharing!

[@dannymccarty344]

We all have the same evidence. God gives us a choice, to believe the evidence or not. Most don't. So, there's that....

[@jenniferwatson7118]

This is so important - thankyou. And thankyou, too, for the e-book.

[@vebnew]

Fear not, all that can be will be saved! If anyone is unwilling to believe in the Creator of Everything; God the Father and His Son; Jesus then they are doomed to be deceived into believing in evolution and ETs (aliens) as our progenitors…. God help us all not to fall victim to this “great deception” in the name of Jesus, Amen! (Psalm 14:1 KJV, Matthew 24:24 KJV, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 KJV and to avoid deception John 3:16 KJV)

[@billcook4768]

Hundreds of millions of devoted Christians have no trouble believing g in evolution.

[@vebnew]

@@billcook4768 many of us do not know what the theory of evolution or what the Bible says about creation.

[@alexmoreland7938]

@@billcook4768You don’t believe the Bible is infallible if you believe in the theory of evolution. They don’t go together at all.

[@billcook4768]

@@alexmoreland7938 Literally hundreds of millions of Bible believing Christians have no problem with evolution.

[@user-bj1kp8co3o]

At Beverly Beach Oregon is a stump. It was washed up from a forest thought to be 4100 years old. Sounds like left over flood damage to me.

[@Sydneysss]

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. *For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.* Exodus 20

[@therealwildwildwest]

My question is are we talking 24 hour EST (earth standard time) or a different timeframe? Thanks, a brother in spirit, but questioning 24 est timeframe

[@tiry1346]

When I read Gen 2:19,20, it seems impossible to me that Adam could have gone through so many experiences within a few hours of the 6th day of creation. The things that took place are as follows (I am not including the creation of the animals, which were created on the same day, only things from Adam's perspective) - Man had a job that required time to observe animals (from the Hebrew names of animals, it is clear that some really required a long time to observe, e.g. stork, Heb. chasidah). - Although he enjoyed the work, he had to realize that he had no partner, although God was available and apparently spoke to him. - He certainly ate, drank, and went to the toilet (in my opinion, these would precede the need for a wife), and since all these things were new to him (including walking, etc.), he would hardly feel blue for lack of companionship. - He slept while Eve was being created. - He composed his first poem. - He attended his own wedding where they received God's blessing. As I said, this seems to me extremely unlikely, even impossible, to happen in one day. I would say it must have taken much longer. Have you ever considered this question from this perspective? If so, what is your explanation?

[@steveabraham8847]

I agree that there is no way that Eve was created on the same day as Adam. In the first chapter of Genesis, it is stated that God created both male and female on the sixth day. However, chapter two provides a more detailed account of the creation of man, indicating that Adam was the first to be formed. In chapter two, this sixth period of time, which is not necessarily a 24-hour period, has these events occurring. 1. Man is created (verse 7). 2. God plants a garden eastward in Eden (verse 8). 3. God causes trees to grow in the garden, both visually pleasing and bountiful for sustenance (verse 9). 4. God places man in the garden of Eden, assigning him the responsibility to tend and care for it (verse 15). 5. God communicates to the man the freedom to eat from every tree in the garden except for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (verses 16 and 17). This detailed account raises questions about the duration it took for God to plant the garden, nurture the trees to maturity, and witness them bear fruit. While God could have accomplished this instantaneously, the text specifies that God planted the garden, offering no indication of instantaneous creation. This deliberate wording suggests a process that unfolded over time, a duration likely longer than a mere 24-hour day, especially considering the subsequent responsibility for the man to tend and care for the garden. Adam had all these tasks he had to perform. Then, after Adam had named the birds and animals, Eve was created. After the creation of Eve, Adam makes an interesting statement in Genesis 2:23. In the CJB (Complete Jewish Bible, it says, "At last! This is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. She is to be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” The phrase "at last" comes from the Hebrew word pa'am. Other versions translate pa'am as "now" (KJV, NKJV, NIV), "finally" (CEB), and "at last" (NASB, RSV). These translations of Genesis 2:23 consistently suggest that a certain duration elapsed between Adam’s creation and the subsequent creation of Eve. While the exact timeframe remains unknown, it strongly implies that Adam experienced a period of anticipation or waiting before the arrival of Eve.

[@tiry1346]

@@steveabraham8847 I haven't seen a 24h days creationist addressing this obvious discrepancy. As the 12th century thinker Averroes argued that when presenting a philosophical argument, you should always mention the views of your opponents. Failure to do so is implicitly admitting that your claim has weaknesses.

[@harmonygrieves858]

Why did God create the tree of Good and evil

[@longdavid646]

Can you pls put the link to the ebook here in the comments section? The desc is not loading properly.

[@creationministriesintl]

Sure. The link is creation.com/pages/smvp-cab

[@stevenwhite8937]

Jesus said if you don’t believe Moses and the prophets when they told you about earthly things, how will you believe when told about spiritual things….

[@Daniel90210]

He said that to the Jews because they always rejected the Lord hence their inventions of evil like Evolution. Don't come back and say, Charles Darwin, I have read their books, their evil traditions of men and yes, they invented Evolution to cause people to reject the Lord hence 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 ".. Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved.

[@ricoigor]

Doesnt the death that came after sin is just relating to the death of man and not about animals?

[@IAMhassentyou]

Amen 🙏 God's word is greater than the word of man. We can trust it to be true as we know that the Holy Spirit that lives within us is true.

[@ianvincent69]

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." A 24hr day has absolutely no meaning here as the earth wasn't created first. The Hebrew word for day can also mean a period of time, as it does in English ie: "in the day of Julius Caesar." It also says that a day to God is as a thousand years to us. It also says that we're still in God's day of rest and that's been about 6000 years! What seems more plausible; that everything was created in six literal 24hr days, or 6 periods of indeterminate time? One other point, the very first verse that I quoted is not even part of the other 6 creative periods. I have no problem believing that the universe is nearly 14 billion years old and the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

[@attilalevai7630]

I believe so since God was creating time along with matter. So things and creatures were also placed in time, our regular week!

[@stevedouglas5531]

That’s what the Bible says that’s what I believe.

[@ethanfulton9659]

I need your faith!!

[@ALLrWorthy]

I truly wish I could believe but I can’t get past the fact that there are older creation and flood stories that the Bible was based on.

[@stevelever83]

Funny reading the comments where people quote the bible as evidence for creation, while denouncing all of science and the evidence for an old Earth.

[@FunnyBlueMouse-ub9ld]

Would you like to share some examples and sources with us?

[@stevelever83]

​@FunnyBlueMouse-ub9ld examples? Check the videos made by this mob lol. Seriously?

[@FunnyBlueMouse-ub9ld]

@@stevelever83 Yes, seriously. There are plenty of videos by PhDs for a Youn Earth. I'm curious to know what evidence made you believe men vs. the God's Word on the age of the Earth.

[@stevelever83]

​@FunnyBlueMouse-ub9ld There are a few things, and in no particular order some of them are: 1) People who don't believe in God, if there is one, will go to Hell. What about people who have other Gods? Why is your God right and theirs wrong? Also, what about all the Native people from lands that didn't hear about your God before Euro settlement? Do they go to Hell? 2) Radiometric dating. If creationists are correct and the Earth is young, then all the radiometric dating ever done is wrong. We absolutely know radioactive half lives, so unless you have some physics that allows radioactive decay to speed up, then the data shows an old Earth. 3) Heat. If you manage to find some Physics that allows for what I think is over 4 Billion years of natural radioactive decay to occur in 6000 years, we'd be cooked. Radioactive decay releases heat, when released slowly over a huge time span, the heat can dissipate and not cause issues. Cram that decay into 6000 years and the heat can't get away slowly and the Earth's temp would be too hot to live on. 4) Fossil record. There are lots of transitional species found in the fossil record. I'm serious, go to a museum and you can see them. 5 The universes expansion, the big bang and the cosmic microwave background radiation. Creationists are big on "observable" science. Well we CAN measure the expansion of the universe, and it's been expanding a lot longer than 6000 years. All current Scientific understanding agrees that there was a big bang, and that there was a period of rapid inflation. We can see the remants of that as the cosmic microwave background radiation. It's there, get your telly and untune it. The sound you hear when your telly isn't tuned is partly the CMB. 6) DNA. Humans share over 99% of the same DNA as Chimps, we have genes that are not expressed anymore that show we were different, and we have found humanoid fossils. The "missing links" so to speak. 7) The Ark. How did Penguins get to the Ark and back again? How did Echidnas? How did they know to head to the Ark? Who picked the pairs? That's just some things, compared to a book that says God is wonderful and made everything ever in 6 days.

[@dharmaambesa2730]

Holy Bible is True and Truth.

[@larrycarter3765]

Nope!

[@boni2786]

God bless

[@billcook4768]

Yep, in six days about six thousand years ago. But being a bit of a mischievous trickster, He created a world full of evidence pointing to it being billions of years old. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

[@SheridanFalkenberry]

Hi there! Please see this article here for the idea of "appearance of age": creation.com/is-apparent-age-biblical

[@stevepierce6467]

I like your explanation: A) The world is 6000 years old. B) If evidence shows that the world is millions of years old, refer to rule A.

[@BornAgain223]

the point of the video is that the evidence doesn't even point to billions of years. That's what it looks like when you put your darwinian big bang glasses on. Take off the lenses of the evolution religion, and it looks completely different.

[@billcook4768]

@@BornAgain223 (1) Can you point to those scientists who believe the data points to a roughly 6,000 year old universe who don’t believe Genesis is literal history? (2) The belief that the earth is millions of years old predates evolution; no evolutionary glasses needed. (3) Evolution is not a religion (4) Evidence the universe is millions of years old can be found in sciences other than evolution.

[@BornAgain223]

@billcook4768 (1) no, that's part of the point being made in the video, that depending on the axioms you use to presuppose reality, the evidence leads to vastly different conclusions. The young earth creationists believe that the bible is inspired by the holy spirit and infallible. In other words, even though it can be interpreted differently, the text itself is true, regardless of how it's interpreted. (2) I've never heard of a millions of year old earth theory that doesn't involve evolution. Even the old earth creationists that I've heard from involve evolution in their theory as to how God set the universe "in motion" so to speak... (3) the darwinian model of evolution is as much a religion as any other religion is because it has: dogmatic doctrines (you must believe x and y about the universe), faith based assumptions (you must believe unprovable assertions), orthodoxy (right beliefs that are traditionally held, [much like the trinity in Christianity] and heretical views, which you will be excommunicated for.) Also, it proselytizes (evangelizes) itself in the school systems while at the same time calling out other beliefs as false religions (untrue), like when evolutionists call the stories in the bible fairy tales. (4) See you've cooked your presupposition into your statement. You said evidence for the universe being billions of years old can be found in other sciences. The evidence itself doesn't say anything, it just presents itself to the person interpreting it. A fossil doesn't say "im 43 million years old." That's something that is deducted, hopefully from careful testing and analysis, using scientific methods of observation. As the people making the video were explaining, depending on the worldview you hold beforehand, the observations you make will lead you to a certain conclusion. It's just, do the conclusions match the observations that are made?

[@andrewdouglas1963]

According to genesis 1, God didn't create the sun until day 4. So 'day's' as we know and understand them didn't exist until day 4. How can we explain that?

[@bbl5499]

A day IS a 24 hours cycle of a period of day followed by a period of night. Moses defines the concept before because it precedes the luminaries, and is indépendant of them.That's the order of creation.

[@andrewdouglas1963]

@@bbl5499 I don't understand. What do you mean "it precedes the luminaries"?

[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

A couple of issues. The Bible offers us a structure for the Earth and the wider cosmos. Biblically the Earth is a disc of rock floating underneath in a vast ocean, and there is a sort of dome over the disc that has air trapped under it which prevents the waters above the disc from crashing down and devastating all of creation... Yet we believe that the Earth is a globe and there are no waters above that can crash down and devastate the world we live in. The Bible also expresses geocentrism, the idea that the sun and planets orbit around the Earth, but we comfortably agree to heliocentrism where the and the Earth orbit around the sun despite this view contradicting the Bible. But for some reason when it's not about the shape of the Earth, or the center of the solar system, when the Geologists get around to using various methods to date the Earth, and they consistently come up with the same unbiblical number, we have creationists insisting that it's wrong because it contradicts the Bible. So let us look at what the Bible actually says, the very first thing it says. When a human says a word he creates a sound package that contains some information allowing others to understand what he is refering to; but God's voice is so powerful that when He says a word, instead of a sound package specifying the referent, He outright creates the referent itself. This makes creation itself the first hand word of God. Me, you, the floor underfoot, the trees outside, the clouds overhead, the stars, everything is the Word of God literally. The Bible, amazing as it is has an inferior claim to legitimacy against the whole of creation itself; so much so that the Bible literally begins with a disclaimer that grants superiority to creation as a whole. Furthermore, if what the Bible says is true we should be able to arrive at the same conclusions without using it as a point of reference. But we've already agreed that the Bible can be wrong about the shape of the Earth and the center of the solar system, so maybe we can extend that to a few more matters, perhaps we should take the Genesis 1 disclaimer seriously.

[@menggetarkanjiwa6927]

@@cobusvanderlinde6871 where u find the bible saying the sun circling the earth?

[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

@@menggetarkanjiwa6927 If the sky is a dome placed over the Earth, and the sun is a light set onto that sky-dome... Then logically the apparent movement of the sun across the sky is due to its own movement and not the movement of the Earth, while today we know that it is the Earth's movement (specifically it's rotation around its own axis) that creates this effect.. It's hard baked into the flat Earth covered by a sky-dome model that we find in Genesis 1 and some other sections. Also very nice of you to demonstrate your own dishonesty. You completely dismiss everything else I mentioned because you felt you had a decent chance on Geocentrism.

[@wtk6069]

Whether it all happened in six consecutive days, six days that were interspersed with millions of other days over eons, or just six metaphorical days that were each eons themselves, it really doesn't matter to me. God must have done it however He chose, and the fact that we're here proves that whatever He chose was the right call. That's enough for me.

[@jono64a]

It should matter to you for the reasons explained in the video!

[@Mae3-xp9nq]

The six literal days of creation are important and so is the literal seventh day. Genesis 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. And we are commanded to: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exodus 20:8

[@LeviAaronx]

Amen!

[@andrewdouglas1963]

According to genesis, God didn't create the sun until day 4. So how could 'days' as we understand them exist before the sun was created, and how long were these 'days'?

[@andrewdouglas1963]

According to genesis, God didn't create the sun until day 4. So how could 'days' as we understand them exist before the sun was created, and how long were these 'days'?

[@davidkunze2770]

All of Gods Word is true as He breathed it through prophets. This, being all, means Gen, Job, Is, etc. It all fits together, so we must be true Bereans and study to see that true fit. Do not just read one book, rather study all that apply. Do not just study one or two when at least 5 or 6, or more, apply. Thanks

[@stevepierce6467]

How about "The Greatest Show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins? It explains evolution in a way even simple-minded folks can understand. Dawkins is one of god's creations, so his book is divinely inspired!

[@fredbriggs2225]

They all apply. God's entire Word, front to back; all interwoven...

[@stevepierce6467]

@@fredbriggs2225 So not just "god's word" of a bunch of scribes 3000 years ago, but also people who are well-educated in modern science writing today. At last!

[@wan4891]

Yes, all true but at 17:20 a goldfish eating another goldfish.......?

[@callumclarke1733]

Darwin Evolution as Been Proven impossible the fossil Record proves Darwinian-theory wrong" it's a secular Religion. Science Points to intelligent Design.

[@Loading....99.99]

Try telling that to the people who believe their brains evolved over billions of years through 'random natural processes' without any intelligent input.

[@frankieRandle8779]

That is correct. Evolutionists believe that science has proven evolution but it’s just the opposite; a scientist has discovered carbon 14 and 15 types of soft tissue in dinosaur fossils which contradicts millions of years of evolution. The truth is emerging slowly but I believe it will all come out eventually. Amen.

[@stevepierce6467]

Strange as it seems, the Darwinian evolution theory has been proven many times over, with whole real-world advances in medicine and biology already operating. Evolution works in real-world science, while creationism works on the pages of mythology. There is not a single wisp of evidence supporting that wishful thinking of "intelligent design."

[@Mark-h2s]

Wow, and you have precisely zero sources for your claims. I know that for a fact. I'm not trying to be cocky here or anything, but really, those claims cannot be supported. (Speaking of intelligent design, you're not aware of the kitzmiller / Dover trial?)

[@duncanhine898]

Amazing in this day and age that so many people still believe a fairy tale.

[@gametime2473]

Why would an all powerful god take 6 days to do this? Why would he need rest? He could do it in zero days or any other number of days and obviously doesn't need rest. The reason is because it is a METAPHOR for the days of the week with a day of rest. You needed a day of rest to heal up when you were doing hard labor 6 days a week in ancient times.

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

I wish there was a documented, eyewitnessed account of anybody having made carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus forming a single protein or gene in a reasonable simulation of a prebiotic earth, so I could be an intellectually satisfied atheist too.

[@Vernon-Chitlen]

@@ConservativeMirror As if carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur and phosphorus, out of 98 elements, on a perfectly sterile, barren prebiotic earth could arrange themselves into DNA? 1 single gram having the equivalent information storage capacity of 88 million grams of 1 terabyte hard disk drives, a 4 letter code compared to the zero's and one's, using 100 million times less energy than the computers scientists are using to examine DNA with, including the electronic device you're using? The DNA that has the coded instructions for the forming and replicating every organism that has been?

[@boxelder9167]

@@ConservativeMirror- Turning water into wine, resurrection of Lazarus, resurrection of Christ, resurrection of the dead who came up out of the graves and were walking around. I excluded the loaves and fishes because they were not alive as far as we know but the yeast in the wine would have been. I suppose that we could have added the virgin birth as well.

[@luv2travel2000]

​@@boxelder9167👍😊

[@alantasman8273]

@@ConservativeMirror There is a documented case...look in the mirror...you are the result of that organism.

[@michaelharrington75]

​@@ConservativeMirror Genesis 1

[@normansuchorzewski1026]

If they say every day of Creation is millions or billions of years - Well on the 7th day God rested - so that will mean God will do nothing for millions or billions of years. So Jesus who now sits at the right hand of the father is interceding for us - has to wait for a while.....

[@robinmusica]

The Genesis account is the most important history gift from God

[@larrycarter3765]

Fiction.

[@LyndseyWard-o4s]

Darwin is 150years ago we have added to his work since then .....onwards and upwards and beyond LLAP

[@MichaelBethel]

This is all so incredibly important; this world is filled with hopelessness and fear because it has forgotten or denied these Truths. I tell my 4th-5th grade Sunday School students that I want them to know where they came from and how we got here so they can find their way home.

[@chrisneeds6125]

No: "The Son of man came to seek and save THAT which was lost"???

[@cosmictreason2242]

Problem?

[@chrisneeds6125]

​ @cosmictreason2242 Jesus restores man's lost condition when Adam fell so that we can freely choose to be transformed *BACK* into the Image God made us to be so that His glory will cover the earth.

[@HookahStank]

I agree in the Biblical timeline but it doesn't say the earth is 6,000 years old, it's closer to 12,000 - 14,000 years old. 2 Peter 3:8 states, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let THEM (plural) have dominion over the fish of the sea... 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God had created and made. 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. ("of the field" refers to crops like corn and wheat) 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. (So in this time plants and trees grew for food on the ancient misty earth without the need for crops.) 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 2:8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. So you see, on the 6th "day" (1 day = 1,000 years) God made man and told them to multiply and spread about the earth. On the 7th day he rested, and THEN he made Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden. By that time the fallen angels had already fallen and had been corrupting mankind for at least a thousand years, giving rise to these ancient kings who were said to be powerful giants, and mythical Gods like Zeus and Odin, who I've always thought sounded more like superpowered humans than "Gods." That's because they still had divine DNA from the fallen angels creating lineages with mankind. Genesis 6:4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days; and also that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who were these "men of renown?" I believe they were the fallen angles and their descendants, the Nephilim. That's why the ancient Sumerian civilization was said to have begun around 5,300 BC, and why "Divine Pharaoh's" that the Egyptians claimed preceded them date back before 13,000 years ago. The fallen angels had already been corrupting humanity for generations, and all these "Godlike" kings and Pharaohs I believe were either the descendants of, or the fallen angels themselves. The Sabbath in the Bible didn't just refer to weeks, but there were other "Sabbath's" like months and years, and it seems that major events in history tend to happen within cycles of 7, whether it be every 7 days, 7 years, or every 7,000 years. So I believe this rough timeline makes much more sense from both a Biblical and Archeological/Historical perspective.

[@timothykeith1367]

Six days is leisurely when God will raise the dead the blink of an eye.

[@erich2385]

Maybe a day back then wasn't 24 hours. Does Astronomy say what the minimum spin a planet can spin is any amount of time? Does the early bible define a day as 24 hours?

[@eddiewilbanks1382]

Evening and Morning… a single day…

[@stevepierce6467]

Yeah, the best defense against having to accept reality: the word "Maybe."

[@andrewdouglas1963]

​@@eddiewilbanks1382 Evenings and mornings as we understand them are only possible with the earths rotation around the sun. But according to genesis, the sun wasn't created until day 4? So what caused the previous evenings and mornings and how long were they?

[@eddiewilbanks1382]

key... "As we understand them"... we are talking about creation by an all-powerful God... I take the scripture as written... since the other days following the Sun were described as 24 hours I will believe the first 3 were also... God is light so he could choose to rotate the earth in the pattern it would have after day 4 as easily as saying :let it happen... however He did it, I choose to believe the account of His Word...

[@andrewdouglas1963]

@@eddiewilbanks1382 There is no mention of 24 hours. The 'days' of genesis could have been longer or shorter than 24 hours. Especially the days before the sun was created. Those days could have been millions of years long for all we know. This would tie in much better with the ancient Hebrew word 'YOM' from which the modern English translation of the word day came from as 'YOM' doesn't necessarily mean a 24 hour day in ancient Hebrew.

[@dennishagans6339]

To the public at large the evolutionists paint such a wonderful picture of how it all happened, the problem is that when you look into their papers and journals not normally made for public consumption it is a totally different story. In a big bang paradigm, stars are where all of the elements come from, some being made in the stars and the rest in supernova explosions. so you would think that since stars play such a role in the creation of the elements needed for life, explaining star formation would be a top priority. But they have no clue how the first generation of stars actually formed, lots of ideas but nothing concrete, it takes stars to make stars, that is how stars are formed today A super nova goes off close to a gas cloud compressing it enough for gravity to take over Grains of dust enter the cloud cooling it enough to compress and gravity to take over Collisions, like two galaxies colliding and new stars forming on the collision front. That is how they say stars are formed today, a supernova is a star exploding, grains of dust, the big bang did not make dust those are made inside stars, and galaxies are just huge collections of stars, all three require stars to exist to make new stars go back to the big bang and there was no first generation to make the second. they know this. That is but one of an entire host of problems in their models, they scream give us more time to make new discoveries, yet more time and new discoveries are not helping, JWST has given them fits with its findings, turning their models into chaos. No Thanks ill stick with Biblical Creation model that works just fine. We are told to giver every man an answer to the question of the reason of the hope that is in us, that is not an origins answers it is an answer about our hope in Christ, we preach Christ crucified and raised the 3rd day, that is our hope, it is not a question of origins it is a question of our hope in Christ, we do not owe the evolutionist/atheists anything but a true witness of the Gospel of Christ, if they reject that, then that is on them. we were not called to answer the origins debate, we are called to preach Christ and Him crucified. but they will reject that outright, well that is on them, as that is what we are supposed to be doing.

[@BornAgain223]

amen amen 🙏

[@dennishagans6339]

Fair Use Star Formation Neil DeGrasse Tyson said, "We Know the cloud wants to Collapse under its own weight to make one or more stars. but rotation as well as turbulent motion within the cloud work against that fate, so too does the ordinary gas pressure you learned about in High-school chemistry class, Galactic magnetic fields also fight collapse they penetrate the cloud and latch onto any free-roaming charged particles contained therein restricting the ways in which the cloud will respond to its self-gravity The scary part is that if none of us knew in advance that stars exist, front line research would offer plenty of convincing reasons for why stars could never form." [Neil DeGrasse Tyson, 2007, pg 107] Death by black hole and other cosmic quandaries. New York: w.w. Norton and co. Eva Novotny said, “The process by which an interstellar cloud is concentrated until it is held together gravitationally to become a protostar is not known.” [Eva Novotny. Introduction to Stellar Atmospheres and Interiors, p. 279.] Martin Harwit said, “Literally hundreds of ideas on how stars are formed have been advanced in past decades. However, we are still far from any real solution.” [Martin Harwit, Astronomical Concepts, Second Edition. p.405.] Martin Harwit said, “The universe we see when we look out to its furthest horizons contains a hundred billion galaxies. Each of these galaxies contains another hundred billion stars. That’s 1022 stars all told. The silent embarrassment of modern astrophysics is that we do not know how even a single one of these stars managed to form. There’s no lack of ideas, of course. We just can’t substantiate them.” [Martin Harwit, Book Review in Science, 7 Match 1996, p. 1201-2] Charles J. Lada and Frank H. Shu said, “The origin of stars represents one of the most fundamental unsolved problems of contemporary astrophysics.” [Charles J. Lada and Frank H. Shu. The Formation of Sunllke Stars. Science, 4 May 1990, p. 564.] Ward D Thompson said, “The formation of stars is one of the most fundamental problems in astrophysics... No current model can reproduce all of the observations.” [Ward D Thompson, Isolated Star Formation: From Cloud Formation to Core Collapse, Science 4 January 2002: " Vol. 295. no. 5552, pp. 76 - 81.] V. Trimble and M. Aschwanden, “The formation of galaxies and large-scale structure remains TMIUPIMA. . . "the most important unsolved problem in modern astrophysics.” [V. Trimble and M. Aschwanden, Astrophysics in 2000, Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, 113:1025-1114, 2001 September] Roger A. Windhotst, as quoted by Corey S. Powell said, “Nobody really understands how star formation proceeds. It’s really remarkable.” [Roger A. Windhotst, as quoted by Corey S. Powell, "A Matter of Timing" Scientif‌ic American, Vol. 267, October 1992, p.30] This is but one aspect of what they do not know, for example, they have no way to build our solar system, as once the rocks get about a meter in size that have enough mass to smash each other to rubble and not enough mass to stick together, thus no planets can form, and even if they could somehow form, because they are in that dust cloud, as they orbit within that cloud the protoplanets would be slowed down by the cloud, and the way orbits work when you slow down you move in closer to the mass you are orbiting, this is called the migration problem, where any planets that could form, after so many orbits would migrate into the protostar ie our sun. Either way you do not get a solar system period, they know this too. Fair Use Formation of Planets Martin Harwit said, “Once these planetesimals have been formed, further growth of planets "may" occur through their gravitational accretion into large bodies. Just how that takes place is not understood.” [Martin Harwit. Astrophysical Concepts. p. 553] J. Blum and G. Wurm said, “The formation of planetesimals, the kilometer-sized planetary precursors, is still a puzzling process.” [J. Blum and G. Wurm, The Growth Mechanisms of Macroscopic Bodies in Protoplanetary Disks, Annu. Rev. Astro. Astrophys. 2008. 46:21-56] Jeff Cuzzi said, “How the first stage of this process, primary accretion, works is a fundamental unsolved problem of planetary science.” [Jeff Cuzzi, “Planets: the first movement," Nature 448, 1003 30 August 2007] John Chambers said, "Objects must have grown very rapidly from sub-metre-sized pebbles into 100-km-sized bodies, possibly in a single leap.” [John Chambers, “Planetary science: Archaeology of the asteroid belt," Nature 460. 963-964 20 August 2009] Anders Johansen said, “How this process continues from metre-sized boulders to kilometre-scale planetesimals is a major unsolved problem: boulders are expected to stick together poorly, and to spiral into the protostar in a few hundred orbits owing to a 'headwind' from the slower rotating gas.” [Anders Johansen et at, "Rapid planetesimal formation in turbulent circumstellar disks," Nature Volume 448 1022-1025 30 August 2007] did you hear about any of this on PBS Nova? How about in National Geographic? What about in the school science classes? No you did not, as these are things they keep to themselves within their own journals and papers. After all, if they were forthright with these things the public would say well you can teach in our schools when you can tell us how these things work, and Creation science would win the day.

[@BornAgain223]

@@dennishagans6339 thank you sir, God bless you!

[@dennishagans6339]

They scream give us more time to make new discoveries that will answer these things, time and new discoveries are not helping them, they got their 10-billion-dollar James Webb Space Telescope and what they have found has thrown their theories into chaos, they had said it took over 1 billion years for mature galaxies to form, yet JWST has shown fully formed mature galaxies 200-400 million years after the big bang. Everywhere they turn, the observations are disproving their predictions and theories. They are committed to the billions of years and when they actually make new observations, the billions of years go down the proverbial drain. Foe example Titan a moon of Saturn has a hazy atmosphere which is made of Methane and Ethane, well because they think Titan is 4.5 billion years old, there must be a global ocean 1.5 kilometers deep on Titan of Methane and Ethane, to keep Titans atmosphere replenished, we sent a probe, no global ocean of Methane and Ethan, only a few small lakes, nowhere near enough to sustain Titans atmosphere for 4.5 billion years, 6,000 years no problem.

[@bbl5499]

@@dennishagans6339 That's what denying the Creator make them become, fools, spitting eloquent nonsense : the fool said in his heart there's no God.

[@georg7120]

Why were there two creation of all living things?

[@Loading....99.99]

Just one creation, but two different perspectives of Genesis 1 & 2. I can explain further though it will take time for me to type out the details for greater clarity.

[@georg7120]

@@Loading....99.99 Either Genesis 1 and 2 are contradicting, that would imply that you can't trust the bible, or there were two creations.

[@Loading....99.99]

@@georg7120 there's no contradiction.. i previously commented that there is a breakdown of the two chapters that can give clarity to the seemingly differences which i can help you with, but it's gonna take a little while to expound in typing it out.

[@007gracie]

Michael Pearl has interesting book called “Eight Kingdoms” & explains it. KZbin called “The Door”.

[@georg7120]

@@Loading....99.99 There is a clear contradiction. In Genesis 1, birds were created before the creation of man, in Genesis 2, they were created after the creation of Adam.

[@RonHudgens-ck5qe]

EARTH no .. Making us as MANKIND is today yes.. BUT WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS

[@tatorwagon]

Dinosaurs had no soul. Didn't the first soul start with Adam. Death before Adam were the soulless, correct?

[@eddiewilbanks1382]

The first man was created by God on day 6

[@SheridanFalkenberry]

This article digs into this topic! creation.com/no-death-before-fall

[@stevepierce6467]

Soul: something we imagine we have that no other living being has. Soul: something never proven to exist.

[@cosmictreason2242]

The Bible is not only true, it is impossible to be false. Any attempt to refute it will be self refuting

[@TickedOffPriest]

It is a Salvation issue, but you can still be saved without it.

[@vladim73]

Absolutely 💯 amazing 👏 Thanks!

[@mikebrown9850]

Christ will have to settle the matter when He returns. No one is convinced of anything they’re unwilling to believe!

[@brian5388_a]

And Steve Irwin, lest I forget. Natalie Imbruglia too

[@christophesutter1844]

Alléluia 🔥💜🔥

[@rickswineberg]

“For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. ” Exodus 20:11 KJV Literal 6 days that's why God ask to keep holy the 7th day.

[@LyndseyWard-o4s]

please explain how and why you think that Darwin has a theory of creation ? ...it is commonly and generally believed that Darwin has a theory about Evolution, creation is not synonymous with evolution.... LLAP

[@philharris5848]

For God to have created the entire universe, which is totally beyond any human comprehension. He would have had to do it all instantly, he couldn't possibly spend days, weeks or months just on planet earth. So if it's a question of which is correct, The Bible v Tens of Thousands of Scientists in every country in the World. I wonder which I'd choose to believe?

[@akmurf7429]

think about Scott's statement where he explains how there is enough water to cover the earth almost two miles deep if the surface were uniform. now go look at the mountain ranges of the world. Notice by observation that the vast majority of mountains (including Everest) contain sedimentary layers tipped up on their side. sediments do not form on an incline and that is proof that the mountain ranges were pushed up after the sedimentary layers were laid down (Noah's flood). So during the flood, Mt Everest, or any other mountain ranges did not exist yet. Read Psalm 104. In verse eight it says the waters went down into the valleys (ocean basins) and the dry land appeared setting a boundary (shoreline). If you are willing to consider, science presents ample evidence for the flood of Noah. Uniformitaryisim can not explain the unique landforms we see today because they were catastrophically formed.

[@stevepierce6467]

Funny, but in my home state there is a place called Ashfall Fossil Beds State Historical Park, where fossils buried by volcanic ash 12 million years ago show no signs of ever having been disturbed by any great flood. "The Great Flood" is entirely mythological folklore. Science explains the actual things we find, whereas the bible just says what scientific illiterates invented thousands of years ago.

[@stevepierce6467]

@@MrWeezer55 It appears that Everest uplifts about 1 mm per year (that means only 4 meters in 4000 years) but we do not know how long or how steady that process has been. But there is plenty of evidence that Everest and other mountains have been around for far longer than the creationists want us to believe

[@stevepierce6467]

It appears that Everest uplifts about 1 mm per year (that means only 4 meters in 4000 years) but we do not know how long or how steady that process has been. But there is plenty of evidence that Everest and other mountains have been around for far longer than the creationists want us to believe

[@Mark-h2s]

I have a request. Will one of you young Earth creationists please, please look up the definition of scientific theory, and then share it with your young Earth creationist friends? Please? People have been explaining what 'scientific theory' means to Young Earth creationist for a long, long time now, and for some reason you all just don't get it.. what's up with that? It's not like you have to hop on the bus and go downtown to the library and dig through the science section. You have internet. No excuse, right? Right.

[@picazzo5150]

What is a day considered in the Bible if one day is a complete rotation of the earth. Just asking.

[@bbl5499]

Genesis 1:3-5 is rather accurate methinks. A period of day followed by périod of night makes 1 Day of 24 hours. Biblical paradigm repeated throughout scriptures IS that of a firm earth on it's pillars. Psalms 19 says Sun, (and other luminaires by extension), is the one moving in the firmament according to their set courses. The book of 1 Enoch has a chapter dedicated to the courses of the great and little luminaries.(Confirming Psalms 19, i encourage you to read both) And he also challenges our measurement of time, which he rightly predicts our générations will mess up greatly. He has to be right.

[@ChunkOcoal]

9:35 completely wrong. There is no mention of different “kinds” (clades) being born through another. That’s not part of evolutionary theory. Try understanding your opposition before contesting it!

[@ScottGillification]

Evolutionary theory does include, over millions and millions of years, through natural selection and random mutations, slow changes from one ‘kind’ to a completely different kind.

[@ChunkOcoal]

@@ScottGillification Where does evolution state that one kind can diverge into a completely different kind?? I want to thoroughly understand where you got that from before responding

[@stevepierce6467]

@@ChunkOcoal That is the essence of evolution. There is one subtle detail that young-earth creationists reject, without which it is impossible to understand evolution, and that is the enormous mind-boggling amount of time it takes for one "kind" to diverge into a completely different "kind." But inasmuch as all living cells are vastly similar, it is easy to understand that we human animals are even related distantly to...........TREES, with whom we share 50% of our genetic material.

[@aaronwalcott513]

The Bible is the written Word of God. Jesus is the Living Word of God. The whole Bible points to the Person (Who) and Work (why) of Jesus Christ. If an unbeliever has no *why* (s)he would see no reason to repent and accept Jesus as Saviour.. The origin detailed in Genesis points to the Who and the why.

[@LyndseyWard-o4s]

who dealt with all the dung and manure on the ark?

[@gerardmoloney9979]

We are told not to add to or subtract from the word of God. The Bible states God called light day and darkness night. NOTHING TO DO WITH TIME. Nowhere in the bible does it say a day is 24 hours. In fact God makes it very clear that it's not 24 hours. A day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. This statement makes it VERY CLEAR that time is RELATIVE! Einstein proved that!. The Hebrew word for day has four meanings, one of which is a long finite period of time. A day on earth is 24 hours approximately todat. The earth's rotation is slowing down. A day on every other planet in the solar system ( which wasn't established until the fourth creation day when the earth was spinning faster than today) is NOT 24 HOURS. We humans cannot understand what time is, so please stop arguing about something we know NOTHING about. God used the six day plus the Sabbath to establish the lenght of one week. It also has implications for the return of Jesus Christ. He said he'll be back in two days, meaning two thousand years! That means He is returning very soon. Maranatha.

[@Ozzyman200]

All this time and money and still creationists can't find a flaw in evolution that creationism can fix. Anyone? Anyone at all?

[@marcj3682]

"Evolution" PMSL.

[@Ozzyman200]

And silence....

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

Hi THE EXISTENCE OF THE NATION OF ISRAEL IN REAL TIME, REGATHERED AS PROPHESIED IN THE BIBLE TRIGGERING THERBY THE FINAL COUNTDOWN TO THE INEVITABLE RETURN OF CHRIST TO REIGN OVER THE NATIONS FROM JERUSALEM FOR THE SEVENTH MILLENNIUM SINCE ADAM’S CREATION!

[@Clyde-o]

1 DAY for GOD YAHWEH/JEHOVAH COULD BE A THOUSAND YEARS FOR US 🤔. SO nobody knows how long is 1day for GOD because he is timeless infinity ♾️

[@ChunkOcoal]

This is completely scripted.

[@manuelsalgado9457]

Evolution is such an insidious and dangerous idea because if there was always death then the work of our Lord wasn't perfect, death was here before Adam's sin, then the reason for our Savior Jesus's passion loses meaning and weight.

[@scorpian3]

GOD IS NOT PERFECT.

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@scorpian3blasphemy

[@scorpian3]

@@cosmictreason2242I would say reading a kings Bible is worse.. I would say using God's name to raise money is worse... There is nothing perfect ... That's what's amazing with the world .. which I think someone said is a world with out end....

[@michaelcamilleri8554]

@@scorpian3 What we say when we can't find answers

[@scorpian3]

@@michaelcamilleri8554 what answers u need ? Or questions? The idea that the earth is only 6k years old because of some man made book of loosely collected story's (Torah) that u follow word for word . Again us orthodox people don't .. maybe if u had the tablets or arc or something.. but some how they got lost . Lol

[@rickswineberg]

Curiously Bruce Wilis literally lost his voice.

[@jimmiewomble416]

I think it's quite an insult to our creator to believe that he didn't spend hundreds of millions of years developing life on earth. While the Bible says "A Thousand years are but a day unto mine eyes", it could also be appropriate to translate that into "A Billion years are but a day unto mine eyes". Give God the credit he deserves.

[@NazSBG]

The moment I pull someone up on the definition of theory and they get in a fit and try and manoeuvre their way out of the argument! You know who you are! 🤣🤣🤣 The one who I've muted! 😂😂😂

[@artmaven4901]

Darwin's theory of evolution by means of natural selection does one thing only. It offers an explanation for the diversity of life on this planet. That's it. That's all it does. It says nothing at all, anywhere, about the origin of life, or what the meaning of life is, or how we should live our lives, and it definitely says nothing at all about the "creation" of anything. It has no supernatural dimension. It has no application to other scientific theories, such as the Expansion Theory (the so-called "Big Bang"), or the theory of gravity, or the Heliocentric Theory, or anything other than the question of why there are so many species of beetles. Further, Darwin's theory, like all scientific theories, can only operate on physical evidence in the natural, physical world Science has no means of examining supernatural claims, and must thus remain silent on the subject. Thus, Darwin's theory *cannot* make any claims about the supernatural. These are all elementary facts about one of the most robust and well-studied of all scientific theories. If you'd bothered to read Darwin's book(s), or any of the many many books about his work, or if you'd merely received a decent science education, you would already know all of this.

[@brian5388_a]

Hey. You are just repeating what the Aussies already said in previous videos, now in an American accent. Rather get John Lennox, Stephen Meyer, or Lane Craig in and debate them, want to see that! Ken Ham already destroyed Bill Nye, want to see you guys step up to the challenge. Go Aussie! (you guys and David Campese the best!)

[@chrismitchell7692]

I was an atheist prior to being saved. It was because of the person who testified to me - his character. He was different from anyone else I ever met : not to destroy me, but to share the Gospel with me....

[@88Padilla]

"These fossils conflict with the bible so the science behind fossilization must be wrong!" Lol. Saved you some time.

[@nathanchadwick8291]

When did evolution become a fact? I thought it was still a theory.

[@stevepierce6467]

In conversation, a theory is like a hunch or an inkling. In science, a "scientific theory" is a fully established explanation of natural phenomena fully supported by lots of evidence. We all live by the dictates of "The Germ Theory of Disease."

[@markh8740]

Visit a classroom in any college or university

[@stevepierce6467]

@@markh8740 A scientific theory is as close to fact as scientists can go. For people rooted in science, a theory is the best explanation found so far based on available evidence for this or that natural phenomenon. Like the Germ Theory of Disease, only accepted in the last 2-300 years as the best explanation, better than sin, miasma, the evil eye, hexes, curses etc. I learned evolution back in the 60s, and not a single bad word was said about belief in a creator god. Get over the persecution complex; science is not trying to attack or reject your religious beliefs.

[@mikewannenburg5907]

Even if you take evolution out the picture there is no way all this happens in 6 milenia...not a chance

[@nathanchadwick8291]

Universities lost their claim to their wisdom and knowledge as soon as they endorsed the multi gender nonsense. I don't think anyone should trust what comes out of their doors. Also, 6,000 years is a long time. You said it with much confidence, but I choose to believe what the Bible teaches. I think it's way more believable than some soup and random chance making all of this.

[@paradigmbuster]

There is a difference between create and make. Create means to form from nothing. But make means to transform for service. The Bible says "in the beginning God created the heaven and earth". The Bible also says "in six days God made the heavens and the earth" Did you notice something? That means that the planets, moon and stars predated the first day. The darkness upon the deep was the darkness on the sea floor, not the sea surface. So that darkness does not mean that the earth was by itself without the sun. In three days dry land appeared but at first the sun was visible on the surface as the water drained into the new rapidly opening basins. That was the first day.

[@alantasman8273]

Nope, Exodus 20:11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. In Six literal 24hr days everything was created...to give context God rested on the seventh 24hr day as an example for man to rest one day in seven and keep the sabbath holy. God did not rest for millions or billions of years on day seven as an example for man to follow. Adam was created on day six of creation..sometime after day six, Adam sinned. The bible teaches that the wages of sin is death. There was no death before Adam's original sin. The Bible provides the genealogy of the generations from Adam to Jesus the Christ. From this genealogy we can determine the age of the Earth to be some 6,000 plus years old.

[@paradigmbuster]

​@@alantasman8273Like I already said, create means to form from nothing, but make means to transform for service. The six days was the making. I believe these are litteral days and the earth was finished 6000 years ago. I contend that if you reach that there no celestial bodies before the 4th day you cause brethren to stumble and keep unbelievers from entering in. The darkness was on the face of the deep not the face of the waters. Since the mist in Gen 2 had to take a long time to accumulate to a deep ocean, there had to be heat from a pre-existing sun to keep it above freezeng. Also the wind that blew over the face of the waters needed the suncas well.

[@paradigmbuster]

​@alantasman8273 I believe the earth was finished 6000 years ago but the earth and all the celestial bodies were created in the beginning, before the first day. The six days is the making not the creating.

[@michaelszczys8316]

Which is a bigger fairy tale? Everything came from a supernatural creator God or everything came from nothing all by itself without any outside help.

[@lacidy]

And created all creatures as male and female

[@michaelszczys8316]

Yeah, how does that happen by itself? If you really study it hard and spend serious time thinking about it, it is obviously ridiculous. If you really WANT it to be true then it is convenient.

[@billcook4768]

The big fairy tail is the claim that science teaches that everything came from nothing.

[@BornAgain223]

​@@michaelszczys8316yeah it's about sin and holding onto it, it has nothing to do with probability and plausibility. Obviously God creating everything is more plausible and more probable. In truth, the probability of a God making everything is near 100% just based on the concept, and the probability of the big bang and evolution is near 0% based on the concept, but that doesn't matter to most people.

[@keibro13]

The bible was written by Iron Age men, not god. It is a primary Jewish source. At the time it was written, it was a minor religion amongst many. For the Jewish people it was an origin document that set out their claim to nationhood. It’s a mythical treatise on the Jewish people. It’s completely absurd to think that it’s anything more than that.

[@Mae3-xp9nq]

Adam and Eve were not Jews

[@zerosteel011]

Nope. Wrong on all counts.

[@lynnasche5147]

How can anyone believe the 6 day creation……just look out at the universe we can see, not created by an anthropomorphized magic man in the sky……simple minded story book tale not suited for the complexity of the universe !

[@DanielHan-bp5we]

This guy don't know science and what he is talking about. He call science fact and don't believe Genesis. There are so many scientist prove that Noah's ark is scientific perfect size that world's biggest storm can withstand. He use Jesus said this and that, but he is taking same passage Jesus spoke to win over his argument. Bible is History, His Story - story of God loving mankind.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

Ah yes, "kinds". What are "kinds"? Who knows. Creationists are fond of telling you that dogs are a "kind", and cats are a "kind", but what they won't tell you is how to determine what a "kind' is, so you can figure out for yourself which organisms are which "kind". A good example is the rock hyrax, known locally as a "dassie" in South Africa. A relatively small furry critter about the size of a house cat. According to genetics, it's most closely related to elephants and sea cows. So, are those three a "kind"? Hippopotamuses are closely related to whales, so are they a "kind"? I await an answer from a creationist. As far as the sedimentation from the flood, it may be true that if you flattened out all the mountains and valleys of earth's crust, the existing water could cover it all. In a similar way, you could cover most of your kitchen floor with a quart of milk if you dropped a bottle on the floor and it broke. But then you're left with the problem of how all those mountains and valleys formed during the lifetimes of humans, apparently without them noticing it. Just the heat generated by all that action would have melted most of the planet, and killed every living thing on it. Honestly, I think you're best defence is to say it was a miracle. There is no argument that can be made against a miracle. True, a miracle isn't science, but frankly, the "science" of the biblical flood is just plain silly. And, after all, you do accept the miraculous creation (and many other biblical miracles), so why swallow the camel, then strain at the gnat?

[@SheridanFalkenberry]

Here's a whole slew of articles addressing this topic! creation.com/speciation-questions-and-answers

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

@@SheridanFalkenberry Yes, a whole slew of articles, not one of which tells me how I can tell what "kind" an animal belongs to. Which leads me to believe there is no defintion of "kind". If you can find such a definition, I'm willing to look at it.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

@@SheridanFalkenberry I found this in one of the articles posted: "Groups of living organisms belong in the same created kind if they have descended from the same ancestral gene pool." Given that all organisms have descended from the same gene pool, this definition of kinds is really saying nothing at all. To put it another way, the offered definition is not something which could guide someone to being able to determine what "kind" an organism is.

[@stevenwhite8937]

Tell us how to determine what a species is?

[@stevenwhite8937]

If you can’t tell a hippopotamus from a whale nothing anyone says will help you…..

[@buckanderson3520]

I tend to see the six days of creation as being six different periods or epochs of creation in which God created different aspects of the universe rather than literally six days as we define it on Earth. It says in the book of Genesis that God created things in essence before He made or formed them. The exact method God used to form or shape things is not specified so it is entirely possible that God formed everything using the same forces He uses to form rocks or mountains meaning what are considered natural forces. Though even "natural" forces did not create or direct themselves. Whether God formed man through the process of evolution or more directly I do not know because I wasn't there. God is able to do anything so knowing whether He did it this way or that is less important than acknowledging God as having done it.

[@cosmictreason2242]

You tend to think wrong. Exodus 20

[@coolumesque]

Evolutionists say birds & every living creature that moves came forth from the waters. The Bible says Birds & every living creature that moves came forth from the waters. The only question is "How did it get into the waters in the 1st place?". From a Living Being (GOD), or from natural forces interacting with each other? **** Genesis = 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters "brought forth" abundantly, after their kind, "and every winged fowl" after his kind:

[@thetabletopskirmisher]

Creation - Evolution is very important. Not important: 6 days or not.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Supremely important

[@charlo90952]

I can see the appeal of Islam. It doesn't spend time agonising over these untenable concepts.

[@cosmictreason2242]

That's not appealing at all

[@chriswilkes2438]

The bible is nonsense

[@MatthewPeeters-l7i]

Have you read the book of Proverbs found within the Bible? It contains some of if not the wisest advice there is.

[@vladimirivan3963]

Q: Did God really create the world in 6 days? A: *sigh* Let me tell you a story.... Q: Did the ressurection really happen? A: The Bible is clear, there is an empty tomb... Christians say that either you believe the whole bible to be true and factual or you cannot cherry pick and you need to addopt another belief system. Honestly, i don't believe there is a single christian who deep down believes every single word in that book to be the truth, but they claim to believe it, just in case! Just in case it happens to be true so they can secure their spot 'upstairs'. It's utterly sad how truth and divinity have been damaged by millenia of lies and misguidance. Just my opinion

[@dr4391]

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[@johnmacdonald3282]

Did God really. Sounds like Satan.

[@davidhudson4230]

I’m good either way but I suspect it was not a literal 7 days.

[@nschlaak]

I have two book suggestions for more information on the timeline of creation and both are written and peer-reviewed. Thousands, not Billions by (DeYoung) This book summarizes eight years of research by the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) and a team of scientists. The next is Starlight and Time by Dr. Humphreys a physicist. I'm impressed with Dr. Humphreys's biblical knowledge and his brilliance as a physicist explaining how God could have created everything using the rules of physics in our universe.

[@Mushroom_Samurai]

It had to be. Any other explanation is unbiblical

[@Mushroom_Samurai]

The reason I say that is because if you believe it's not as he says and it was longer than a literal 7 days you'll have to find a way to explain how there was death before sin. Adam certainly wasn't millions of years ago because science will tell you human kind has only been around for such a short period. However there was death far before Adam if that's the case. The whole Bible would be discredited as you see. You cannot in good faith believe in millions of years and believe in the bible at the same time.

[@davidhudson4230]

@@Mushroom_Samurai I don’t believe Genesis is to be taken literally. If you do I don’t blame you.

[@Mushroom_Samurai]

@davidhudson4230 I'm praying you come to find it is to be taken literally. Jesus died for the sins of the first adam to grant us eternal life. If you don't take Genesis seriously, his sacrifice is meaningless, my brother in christ. This line of thinking is blasphemy. It will be the downfall of many christians.

[@diamondlife-gi7hg]

I interpret them as long epochs not literal 24 hr days and a thousand years is like a day to God or 1 billion because time means nothing to God, but it does to us. Old earth creation is the correct view in my opinion. God is the macrocosm, and we are the microcosm that's how I see it.

[@007gracie]

But Hebrew contradicts your opinion. It’s very clear. There’s over 100 things that contradict deep time. Information war indeed.

[@truth2478]

So if the Earth is young, As you claim. When did satan fall, And 1/3 of the angels? And yes what about the dinosaurs, Are you telling me that the dinosaurs was on the arc, ? And in the last 4000 years they died out? Don't make me laugh.😮

[@luv2travel2000]

Dinosaurs are pre-flood. If you want those type of answers Dr. Kevin Zadai, ThD talks about this.

[@binhanh296]

There are ancient temples record their encounter with dinosaurs and put what they saw onto their temple walls or pillar. Those people obviously didn't have the "tech" to reanimate those monster from bones, so it's very likely people of ancient times recorded what they saw, and they saw dinosaurs, may as well called them dragons or monster back then.

[@CBALLEN]

I believe when God created, He created things fully formed and functioning. The chicken always had to come first.

[@alantasman8273]

Dinosaur soft tissue containing blood vessels, blood cells, collagen and even partial DNA (DBA has a half-life of 521yrs) has now been found at dig sites on six continents. Many of the tissue found were excavated mere feet from ground level where solar radiation, water and weather conditions should have destroyed the tissue long ago. Soft dinosaur tissue puts the lie to the deep time myth that dinosaurs lived 65+ million years ago.

[@alantasman8273]

Dinosaur soft tissue has now been found on six continents ...some of these tissues have included DNA which has a half-life of only 521yrs. Dinosaurs lived much more recently.