Why The F-15 Terrified The Soviets

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@53kenner
@53kenner 6 ай бұрын
The Tomcat could intercept multiple targets while the Eagle was still in development -- and hit them at far greater range. For its day, the Phoenix and AWG-9 were a potent combination. Of course, if you watch this video, you would think that the Phantom was an Air Force project and not the Navy's. The Phantom was NOT McNamara's idea of a joint service fighter, it was already a done deal before he reached office. McNamara's pet baby was the F-111, which did so poorly in carrier testing that they quickly sought a new design, the Tomcat.
@navyreviewer
@navyreviewer 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I caught that too. If I'm ever down and feeling depressed, I just think about Robert McNamara. The good news is he lived long enough to admit he was a useless nitwit that had been wrong about virtually everything. Unlike a certain gravelly voiced secretary of state....
@kyungrix1112
@kyungrix1112 6 ай бұрын
The F-14 could only theoretically track and engage multiple targets. If those targets maneuvered at all the F-14 would lose track. it's good for the time but quickly obsolesced Radar multitrack was predicated on the target staying on the same vector. IE against Bear Bombers. All you had to do was change your course and the F-14 would have to actively find you again.
@kayakutah
@kayakutah 6 ай бұрын
I flew the F-14A off of the Enterprise for 2 cruises with VF-114. The AWG-9 would hold track with targets that maneuvered. It had a fairly slow update rate and a wide "notch" that had a negative impact on tracking through target maneuvers, but all pulse doppler (PD) radars of the time had the notch (including the -15), it was just a matter of degree. The only weapon that could be used against multiple targets at the time was the AIM-54 and it was quite capable of multiple shots on multiple targets with that system combo. Once launched, the AIM-54 no longer had some of those limitations, especially once it went active. The D models also had upgrades that solved the notch issue (I never flew the D, but fought them as an adversary in the f-16N). One of the loadouts we flew with was 2x2x2. 2 Phoenix, 2 sparrow, 2 sidewinder. Firing 2 Phoenix against 2 targets simultaneously was not a problem, and - though heavy! - that loadout was pretty nice to have. But you had to understand the capabilities and limitations of the weapons you used. To say, "The F-14 could only theoretically track and engage multiple targets. If those targets maneuvered at all the F-14 would lose track." is incorrect. To say the F-14 was unreliable is also incorrect. In the case of the Sparrow, we would generally fire it in "pulse", not PD. In that mode, it was very capable! And of course, the Sidewinder didn't require a lock at all (though having a lock could gain some serious advantages in application). For example, you could lock a SW seeker onto a target on the nose while having a radar lock on the wingman, shoot the head-on target and quickly go SEAM on the second target, getting two missiles in the air on two targets pre-merge. The Soviets were terrified of the F-14, but really, they also understood that western technology was running ahead of them across the spectrum. It's reasonable to critique the A model, just know what you're talking about!
@stevetripp2340
@stevetripp2340 6 ай бұрын
We would still have the tomcat if it wasn't so expensive to fly maintain. And was unreliable.
@karotgamin790
@karotgamin790 6 ай бұрын
the aardvark and tomcat are built for entirely different things tho… the aardvark is essentially a bomber and the tomcat is a long range missile carrier.
@Robwantsacurry
@Robwantsacurry 6 ай бұрын
Was this video created by AI? Many inaccuracies and random irrelevant clips, we keep getting shown Mig 17 and Su-24's as Foxbats.
@craigknox1131
@craigknox1131 6 ай бұрын
and video of F-22s
@adamrakic
@adamrakic 6 ай бұрын
this dude as i saw previous is mostly USA oriented, so yeah it makes sense that he only got USA part of the story right
@richardspore1996
@richardspore1996 6 ай бұрын
Either they are really stupid or ? But AI you can really tell on words and how they pronounces them.
@Robwantsacurry
@Robwantsacurry 6 ай бұрын
@@adamrakic They didn't even get that right.
@adamrakic
@adamrakic 6 ай бұрын
@@Robwantsacurry yeah, thats why i dont rely on this acc to inform myself, there are a lot of better ones, though i sometimes throw a watch here on some video when topic is interesting
@johnmcfarland4700
@johnmcfarland4700 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the F-15 is one of the finest fighter jets ever made!!
@richardseys8014
@richardseys8014 6 ай бұрын
yeah and if the navy could of ruggedized the F15 for carrier use there would of been no F18nyup the stoey of the loss of a wing and still flying is true
@satakrionkryptomortis
@satakrionkryptomortis 6 ай бұрын
it indeed is.
@nexpro6118
@nexpro6118 6 ай бұрын
You have a great opinion, because the US is STILL manufacturing the, F15s. I believe the US is manufacturing the, Saudia Arabia variant of the, F15. Those, F15s apparently have even more power/thrust to weight ratio, which blows me away....these variants of the, F15s have a much greater, 1 to 1 thrust to power ratio...I think it's, 1.17.....this makes it to where the F15 can break the sound barrier while flying straight up on its ass
@DZimmer000
@DZimmer000 6 ай бұрын
I’ll do you one better… The F-15 is THE finest fighter jet ever made. No question.
@nexpro6118
@nexpro6118 6 ай бұрын
@@DZimmer000 10000000% correct!!!
@nolangene51
@nolangene51 6 ай бұрын
Proudly served in USAF from 1977 until 1990. Was a crewchief on F-4E, F-15C/D and F-16C/D. Loved them all. But have to be honest my favorite was the F-15 hands down. F-4 service McDill AFB, Tampa FL, F-15 service Kadena AB, Okinawa JP, F-16 service Nellis AFB, Las Vegas, NV.
@graceliu8839
@graceliu8839 6 ай бұрын
“104-0 look out below! I took out a satellite just for show!”
@0giwan
@0giwan 6 ай бұрын
Came here to give this exact quote. I'm glad I live amongst such people of culture.
@JohnHenryEden-h9x
@JohnHenryEden-h9x 3 ай бұрын
Yup, baby seal clubbing at its best!
@mikekopack6441
@mikekopack6441 6 ай бұрын
the Mig-25 was designed to do 1 thing - Intercept the SR-71 and the XB-70 Valkyrie bomber (cancelled). It was a pure high speed interceptor. It is less than worthless in a dogfight. But it was the impetus for the F-15 to be developed.
@themanformerlyknownascomme777
@themanformerlyknownascomme777 6 ай бұрын
I mean, it's not *totally* useless, hell, one actually managed to shoot down an F-18 once! and they also had a decent Kill record against Western Jets that were flown by Iran during the Iran-Iraq war.
@alexx86hater
@alexx86hater 5 ай бұрын
It is a common misconception: interceptor variant wasn't designed to intercept XB-70 and SR-71 -- it flew less than 2 years after A-12, just few month after unveil of YF-12 and few months before XB-70 flew for the first time; and it is slower than either of those. Missile range was OK by the standards of the time, however wouldn't do much against those due to targeting system wouldn't be able to acquire those at acceptable range. In reality MiG-25 was designed to intercept B-58 and was a replacement for the Tu-128. To intercept high speed targets like SR-71 they developed MiG-31 with the radar that has nothing to do with Iranian F-14s and missiles that are definitely not a copy of AIM-54 (it's just pure coincidence that specs match). However even with that according to the MiG-31 pilots they had to know where SR-71 would be at specific time, then they would have to pop at a high speed to acquire SR-71 by the targeting systems for a few seconds that might be enough time (or not) to launch the missile. Also let's not forget that recon variant of MiG-25 was developed in parallel (which also contributed on why does it have such high speed) and almost immediately after start of the production there was an attack version of the MiG-25 developed. Btw, good chunk of Foxbat production were recon and attack versions. It's just US saw (and still sees) in MiG-25 what they wanted to see instead of what it really was.
@dinuxplay8003
@dinuxplay8003 5 ай бұрын
Yeah... Mig 25 was okay (had a few kills mainly against older F-5s though) but the West had inaccurate intelligence on the matter and kinda overestimated but at least that gave birth to the F-15 and more improved jets.
@KarolusTemplareV
@KarolusTemplareV 4 ай бұрын
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 In fact of the MIg-25 killed in air to air, which are few by the way, sometimes the amount of missiles expended trying to down one is astonishing. In 1991 it was the only thing that wasnt a coalition aircraft that could more or less go about trying to do shit and expect to return to base with a decent degree of certainity.
@Milarz
@Milarz 6 ай бұрын
The F-14 tomcat was the first fighter that could engage multiple targets simultaneously.
@piotr2951
@piotr2951 6 ай бұрын
Dont expect too much from this channel.
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x 6 ай бұрын
@@piotr2951 Why?
@MrGoesBoom
@MrGoesBoom 6 ай бұрын
@@JohnDorian-j7x they have a habit of getting lots of facts wrong, using the wrong names, pictures, etc....also as they do in this vid they start with a premise that matches the title, then veer off on tangents to pad viewing time
@markbroad119
@markbroad119 6 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking.
@tylerkinley268
@tylerkinley268 5 ай бұрын
And engage with Phoenix missiles at previously unheard of ranges.
@cptkettch
@cptkettch 6 ай бұрын
One of the rules of engagement was the visual conformation enemy aircraft. This was not due to the limitation of the radar but the idiots in DC. The missles the US was using at the were not the most reliable ( AIM-4 Falcon, AIM-7 Sparrow, and AIM-9 Sparrow) falling of the rack, going ballistic after launch, not arming in flight and breaking up on impact. They had to be launched in pairs and had about 60 to 70% hit rate.
@Robwantsacurry
@Robwantsacurry 6 ай бұрын
The F-15 time to climb record aircraft was the Streak Eagle, not the Strike Eagle, that is the name for the F-15E ground attack variant.
@NobleKorhedron
@NobleKorhedron 6 ай бұрын
Did that variant enter service; or was it exclusively used for the record attempt?
@383mazda
@383mazda 6 ай бұрын
​@@NobleKorhedron it wasn't a variant, just an F15A pulled from the assembly line. They left a lot of parts of to save weight: no radar, no flap or speed brake actuators, no paint, etc (although they did include a lot of equipment to measure the time to climb flights). It was about 2000lbs lighter than the standard A model. They also tuned up the engines a lot. The Streak Eagle was never returned to service, it's at the Air Force museum in Dayton, Ohio.
@Robwantsacurry
@Robwantsacurry 6 ай бұрын
No, it was a special plane for the record attempt, they took a pre production F-15 without weapon mounts, cannon or radar, the even left it unpainted. Basicly the minimum systems required systems to take off and land.
@jayyoutube8790
@jayyoutube8790 5 ай бұрын
See, I didn’t know this, and this channel has no clue what it’s talking about. People like me don’t know the difference unless I see comments from people like yourself. Thank you
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 5 ай бұрын
@@jayyoutube8790 It had an arresting rig that allowed the engines to spool to full thrust while being held still. The rig was released and the Streak Eagle rocketed down the runway becoming airborne in something like 400 feet. I broke Mach while flying straight up.
@IHWKR
@IHWKR 5 ай бұрын
The F-15E will always hold a very special part of my heart. I used to work on them
@zenon7094
@zenon7094 6 ай бұрын
The 15 reminds me of a powerfull bull gone wild that you would better not get in the way of. It is such a powerfull aircraft...and the fact that this jet is still dominating the skies after almost 50 years of service speaks for the quality of this aircraft.
@55freeagain
@55freeagain 4 ай бұрын
My son is an F15 strike eagle wizzo officer who just came off deployment in the Middle East. When I asked him about all the tension in the area he said and I quote “we got this, there is nothing to worry about”. We should believe him.
@mikeklinger1712
@mikeklinger1712 5 ай бұрын
The phantoms would have completely flattened the opposition in Vietnam if the politicians quit getting involved!
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 4 ай бұрын
false. We sent over 120 B-52s with Big Belly modifications on the FIRST NIGHT of Operation Linebacker 2 alone. The myth that we would have won Vietnam if politicians hadn't interfered is not based in reality. We threw absolutely everything we had at Vietnam, and we threw more than any other air force could have. It still wasn't enough. It never could have been enough. It was not a war that could have been won through air strikes, full stop.
@fighter5583
@fighter5583 6 ай бұрын
When you think about it, Flying Brick is a good name for the F-4. Agility wasn't its strong suite but it hit like taking a brick to the face.
@longshot7601
@longshot7601 6 ай бұрын
I got to talk to an ANG pilot who had flown both the F-15 and F-4 before it. He said that going into combat he'd chose the F-15 hands down. However just to fly it was the F-4 no doubt. It was incredibly visceral. His words were flying the F-15 was like dating the beauty queen. Everybody is jealous of you but flying the F-4 was like being with the plain looking nymphomaniac. Everytime you you got into her she was going to give you a ride that would leave a grin on your face.
@FutureMan420Blazer
@FutureMan420Blazer 6 ай бұрын
@@longshot7601 Lmao
@JimmyBowbow-bx8ux
@JimmyBowbow-bx8ux 6 ай бұрын
You sir take your word back, Phantom is a beauty.
@fortyninehike
@fortyninehike 6 ай бұрын
It did what it was designed for extremely well. Miss use and constraint from Washington turned it into a “brick”.
@CreamyShroom
@CreamyShroom 6 ай бұрын
It’s really not. It’s full of aerodynamic bandaids.
@Mitheledh
@Mitheledh 6 ай бұрын
And those bandaids are actually what make it a beautiful aircraft
@jacobnugent8159
@jacobnugent8159 5 ай бұрын
It’s beautiful because it’s so ugly
@pjp7259
@pjp7259 5 ай бұрын
Beauty is perspective.
@jasonyoung3690
@jasonyoung3690 6 ай бұрын
The 1975 time to climb record attempt was not called the Strike Eagle Program, it was called Streak Eagle Program. Strike Eagle is the nickname of the F-15E. I DNR previous post, thus this late edit.
@HarriettArnold-ft6in
@HarriettArnold-ft6in 2 ай бұрын
We called them Beagles, for bomber eagles.
@benashbaugh5982
@benashbaugh5982 6 ай бұрын
In some way the Sovite helped development of F15 considering they hyped up the Mig 25.
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 6 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder what the Mig-25 COULD have been had they used lighter materials. The extra fuel would have extended its range, or that could have been swapped out for more ordinance.
@robandcheryls
@robandcheryls 6 ай бұрын
@@davidford3115garbage Aircraft
@davidford3115
@davidford3115 6 ай бұрын
@@robandcheryls I know that Soviet airframes have been poor compared to Western since the Korean War when the F-86 Sabre cleaned the MiG-15's clock. But again, I was asking theoretically how much better the MiG-25 could have been had they chosen light weight over armor. An Aluminum-titanium alloy MiG-25 might have been able to pull some major moves that while not as good as the F-15 could have kept it on par with other Western airframes.
@StevenBanks123
@StevenBanks123 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@RaderizDorret
@RaderizDorret 6 ай бұрын
@@davidford3115 The MiG-25's weight wasn't for armor. It was made of stainless steel to resist friction heating from high speed flight. Normally titanium is preferred, but the Soviets couldn't (and Russia still can't judging from the MiG-31) use titanium all that well for aerospace purposes. Meanwhile, Lockheed used CIA cutouts to buy titanium from the Soviets and built the SR-71.
@RobertGotschall-y2f
@RobertGotschall-y2f 6 ай бұрын
"The F-4 is living proof that a brick could fly if you put a big enough engine on it." Red Flag.
@epicmickey2351
@epicmickey2351 6 ай бұрын
USSR scared the Americans into making a figter jet that the USSR is scared off.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 5 ай бұрын
The bullshitted us into making their bullshit our reality.
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 4 ай бұрын
but we didn't have to lie to scare them
@hughmungus6911
@hughmungus6911 4 ай бұрын
Then, once they got their hands on a MiG-25 and examined it after a defector handed one over to Japan, they realized it was a flying trash can that could sometimes destroy its own engines.
@elijahmosby5750
@elijahmosby5750 3 ай бұрын
More like, Russia tried to flex and the US said Hold my beer....to the world 😹😹😹😹
@christopherlamitie3506
@christopherlamitie3506 6 ай бұрын
The first plane shown as a Foxbat is not a Foxbat.
@Wooden_Badger
@Wooden_Badger 6 ай бұрын
Came here to say the same thing. Unfortunate, because stupid mistakes like that make you question the veracity of the rest of the vid as well
@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 6 ай бұрын
It's a fruit bat
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 6 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg It's a really good looking fruit bat. I know it's obsolete and was quickly shown up by western fighters with radar, but the Mig-15 and Mig-17 are just gorgeous looking aircraft.
@Theiliteritesbian
@Theiliteritesbian 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to utube, pal.
@JediSentinal
@JediSentinal 4 ай бұрын
Glad people like you commented, I'm just here for entertainment and don't know any military shit so here I was thinking the uploader was doing their due diligence. Yeah, I need to be less trusting.
@milo963
@milo963 6 ай бұрын
F-4? Ugly? I'll fight you! I've got scars on my head from working on them a lifetime ago, it's a badass looking airplane.
@larrycummings7300
@larrycummings7300 6 ай бұрын
Phantom bites. Had lots.
@cosmicchad4752
@cosmicchad4752 6 ай бұрын
Phantom is hideous
@kyungrix1112
@kyungrix1112 6 ай бұрын
@@larrycummings7300 I work on Eagles, I've seen MANY people get Eagle Bites too! Lots of stuff to run into if you're not paying attention!
@xaderalert
@xaderalert 6 ай бұрын
​@@cosmicchad4752you are wrong and you should feel bad
@cosmicchad4752
@cosmicchad4752 6 ай бұрын
@xaderalert I don't the phantom looks as bad as it performs
@dcy665
@dcy665 4 ай бұрын
FYI, the F-104 broke the sound barrier straight up Dad was working at an Air Force base in WA state. The speed was secret yet when one of the first times actually taking off at full afterburner it literally went straight up, and broke the sound barrier Dad was laughing when he told the story, "so much for secrecy"
@JustReed
@JustReed 6 ай бұрын
I was 15 when the F-15 came into service. I'm 65 and it's still screaming on strong!
@navyreviewer
@navyreviewer 6 ай бұрын
As HLC said "don't blame us for building a counter for the weapon you said you had."
@okakokakiev787
@okakokakiev787 6 ай бұрын
F15 wouldn't counter a mig31 in any sort of way
@JimmyEatDirt
@JimmyEatDirt 5 ай бұрын
​@@okakokakiev787one F-15 carry enough to destroy the entire fleet of working 31s
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
F-15 was born from America's big panic attack and freak out over the MIG-25
@cosmicchad4752
@cosmicchad4752 6 ай бұрын
I get Lockheed could have perfected the mig 25
@elduquecaradura1468
@elduquecaradura1468 6 ай бұрын
More like: S.U.:we grrrrrrreat soviet engineers did the best plane that the capitalists will take decades to compete Yanquees: ok, challenge accepted *United States proceeds to do a plane that surpasses the Mig 29 showcased by the soviets Soviet Union realize it had fucked it up, because 99% of the time they overhype their stuff and the Mig 25 wasn't as great as they claimed, and SOMEHOW the yanquees made a plane een better the ruskies could ever dream. And two decades later the yanquees bored decided to do a plane that would surpass the F-15 because nobody in the world had surpassed it *yet* and so has been born the F-22
@nitesan2814
@nitesan2814 6 ай бұрын
​​@@elduquecaradura1468That entire thing was purely a misunderstanding on the Americans part. The Mig 25 was a pure interceptor with 0 maneuverability and no gun.
@Zeus-kj7nn
@Zeus-kj7nn 5 ай бұрын
Certainly was.
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 5 ай бұрын
Americans saw something that looked like a real beast of a plane, freaked out and built one of the best jets of all time, and it turns out the MiG-25 was essentially a rocket with wings.
@sgt_s4und3r54
@sgt_s4und3r54 6 ай бұрын
Why are you showing a MIG17 while discussing the Mig 25? F4 ugly? Nah. She's got her her charm for sure.
@gregkelly2145
@gregkelly2145 6 ай бұрын
I might have missed it, but I didn't hear mention of the F15EX. That thing will be an absolute beast.
@mrackerm5879
@mrackerm5879 5 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? The Phantom was a really good looking fighter.
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 4 ай бұрын
false
@KoiaruTan
@KoiaruTan 3 ай бұрын
Phantom looks good in a weird, uncanny sort of way. The Panavia Tornado looks pretty nice imo.
@cesarvidelac
@cesarvidelac 6 ай бұрын
The fact that it has been serving for almost 50 years demonstrates it reached an optimum of design, like a Colt 1911. I think the US should concentrate on this airframe ti develop a next Gen fighter based on the aeronautics of this one.
@cateclism316
@cateclism316 5 ай бұрын
I once heard an ANG airman call the F-4 the best fuel-to-noise converter ever built!
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
@jerseyshoredroneservices225 6 ай бұрын
8:35 Air intercept controllers... Just want to take advantage of this opportunity to brag about my uncle, Command Master Chief "Uncle Bill". He enlisted in the navy and spent time on at least 4 ships. USS Guadalcanal, USS Normandy, USS Nimitz and USS Anzio. During his 30 years he achieved the rank of CMDCM. One of the things he was proud of was attending Top Gun as an AIC, while on the Nimitz. He was also very proud of the fact that he did the tasks that were assigned to him rather than just delegating that stuff to others. Of course he was expected to utilize the other sailors and he did utilize them, but he was there with them getting the work done. Apparently some of his peers didn't feel the need to even be present while their delegees were getting the work done... From 1970 through 2000 he saw and heard a lot of things, including 16 inch guns firing. A couple of his strongest memories were the sounds that the ship made while he was trying to sleep in rough seas. He said he really thought it might just break and half. Something else very memorable was arresting gear wires letting loose while under great tension...
@terrylandess6072
@terrylandess6072 4 ай бұрын
Even without the internet back in the 70's we still managed to be somewhat connected through things like Models we assembled. Planes were a big seller.
@sib183
@sib183 5 ай бұрын
Ahhhh.... to be the only pilot in history with an air to orbit kill. (and may he remain so, as long as possible)
@joesmith323
@joesmith323 6 ай бұрын
Did Robert McNamara get anything right in his whole career in government?
@fubarmodelyard1392
@fubarmodelyard1392 4 ай бұрын
Not once
@thomasyoung6931
@thomasyoung6931 4 ай бұрын
Look at his World War II record. I believe he was engaged in statistical controls (of bombing results?)? I don’t hold any opinion on his World War II record without doing the research. But I believe he was hired as President of Fort Motor Company based on his World War II experience. I don’t think he was well liked at Ford. I think the David Halberstam book, “The Reckoning” discusses his role at Ford? It’s over 30 years since I read that book.
@Im-the-greatest
@Im-the-greatest 6 ай бұрын
When talking about the cannon the term cook off was used to describe it's firing/ rate of fire. This is technically incorrect (the best kind of incorrect) because a cook-off is a term used to describe a malfunction caused by an overheated breach/chamber/barrel that is hot enough to ignite a cartridge without the firing pin/ primer being activated.
@pahtar7189
@pahtar7189 6 ай бұрын
Vacuum tube technology used in the MiG-25 wasn't as bad as you'd think as they're much more resistant to electromagnetic pulse from nuclear explosions, an environment the Soviets expected to have to fight in.
@BigMrSox
@BigMrSox 6 ай бұрын
Flying an F-15 must be AAA porn for a fighter pilot.
@joeclaridy
@joeclaridy 6 ай бұрын
Think you mean XXX but your statement is correct
@acey457
@acey457 6 ай бұрын
and flying an F35 like sticking a finger up the bum
@zacktrever1878
@zacktrever1878 5 ай бұрын
F15 landing with ONE WING is WILD F15 is da GOAT
@garudain77
@garudain77 5 ай бұрын
Neat story: In 1973 or 74, a group from my USAF squadron of Douglas C-9 med-evac pilots arranged a tour of the McDonald Douglas F-15 plant at nearby St. Louis Lambert Field airport. I attended. As the tour among the airplane assembly hanger progressed, our guide told us that, as luck would have it, we could step over to the edge of the hanger and watch a (very early, perhaps the prototype) F-15 take off, as it began one of its test flights. The F-15 was painted sky blue all over, probably for sales reasons, to emphasize the aircraft's air superiority role to prospective buyers. Test flights are are almost always followed by a chase plane, and an F-4 with no ordinance would do the chasing here. The takeoff runway was very close to our hanger, and we had a great view. The two planes took off as a unit, together. For this takeoff, the two-ship flight had gotten ATC clearance to perform a "max performance climb," with departure in the direction opposite the way they took off. For this, the F-15 would climb straight up, and pull over at what looked to me to be about 14,000 feet. The F-4 began running out of energy halfway up, and had to turn, well to the side, with a plan to rendezvous with lead once things settled. The F-4 is no slouch, particularly with a light load, such as fuel for a single test sortie. But the F-15 made the Phantom look clunky and dated.
@davidkeeley2822
@davidkeeley2822 5 ай бұрын
No more beautiful plane than the F-4 Phantom
@aaronsanborn4291
@aaronsanborn4291 6 ай бұрын
Actually the reason the Phantoms had to visually identify targets in Vietnam had nothing to do with defective equipment. Politicians imposed that rule on the pilots essentially handcuffing them.
@KarolusTemplareV
@KarolusTemplareV 4 ай бұрын
Vietnam era AIM-7 were crap, though.
@XF15DCC
@XF15DCC 6 ай бұрын
Where did you get your info? I believe the 525 Fighter Sq Bitburg Germany was the first base in Europe to get the Eagle. I have 23 years working this jet and never heard of the base in Italy being the first to receive the Eagle.
@ronmanders
@ronmanders 6 ай бұрын
There are more errors in this vid too... Like a so called MIG25 foto but showing 2 SU24's...
@moffjerjerrod1579
@moffjerjerrod1579 6 ай бұрын
@@ronmanders Plus hyping up the Mig 25 as if it was a serious threat to anything but B-52s. It was supposedly going to go after the SR-71, since it was super fast and could go almost pretty high at the Blackbird, but it was no match to catch it. It's only chance to shoot one down was to get it in a head on attack from below and hope the missiles it fired worked well enough to take a Blackbird down, and it never did. So, obviously it was a failure in that part of it's service. Also it was so big and cumbersome it turned like a battleship at full speed. It's turn radius was in the dozens of miles at full speed, and its lack of maneuverability at low speeds made it a sitting duck.
@preciousroihomeshoppingnet7908
@preciousroihomeshoppingnet7908 6 ай бұрын
That is a MiG-15 or similar (-17, -19), NOT a MiG-25 Foxbat.
@pcardinal42
@pcardinal42 6 ай бұрын
Yea that's my biggest complaint about the video, show the aircraft when you are highlighting it's features. Gorgeous shot of the MiG-15 but highly confusing for someone that wouldn't know the difference in the aircraft being talked about. The MiG-25 looks nothing like the small nimble Mig teens
@TP-ts4bm
@TP-ts4bm 6 ай бұрын
Yup
@JimmyBowbow-bx8ux
@JimmyBowbow-bx8ux 6 ай бұрын
Please improve the coordination between images of planes and the script.
@reidakted4416
@reidakted4416 6 ай бұрын
First of all, the Phantom is a beautiful fighter. Second of all (THEY CAN HEAR YOU!!) 😆
@troywalker8078
@troywalker8078 6 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the F-4 was one the sexiest planes made.
@jasonkent7858
@jasonkent7858 5 ай бұрын
I love how we basically made the Avenger from XCOM to counter what turned out to be a flying Soviet bumper car
@travismccraw6013
@travismccraw6013 6 ай бұрын
And still has the best record for any fighter.
@playasdetijuas
@playasdetijuas 5 ай бұрын
What did the f15 have to do with the navy. Wasn’t that the f14?
@sonofaphil
@sonofaphil 6 ай бұрын
This would be an excellent informative video if you didn't almost at every instant show the wrong fighter when mentioning the Mig-25 Foxbat. If just listening and not watching it would've been much better.
@JamesAgans
@JamesAgans 6 ай бұрын
The F100 was called the "lead sled"
@Zaprozhan
@Zaprozhan 6 ай бұрын
I've heard that applied to the SR-71 as well.
@JamesAgans
@JamesAgans 6 ай бұрын
@@Zaprozhan the F100 had a glide ratio of 1 to 4 that's why it got the name. 1 foot forward to 4 feet down without power.
@BKD70
@BKD70 4 ай бұрын
@@JamesAgans I think you got that backwards... think about it.
@alanbaker2347
@alanbaker2347 Күн бұрын
I'm from the UK & the F-15 is my favourite Jet Fighter Ever & I've got a huge poster on my bedroom wall
@shark70007000
@shark70007000 5 ай бұрын
No other aircraft has come close to landing with one wing missing, except for the A-10.
@DouglasJenkins
@DouglasJenkins 6 ай бұрын
Why no mention of Col. John Boyd and his study of energy and maneuverability tactics which led to the development of both the F-15 and F-16 ?
@michaelscott3003
@michaelscott3003 6 ай бұрын
My grandpa graduated top gun class of 1969. Was in the Air Force so they must’ve done a joint training. Cool stuff
@Justme42yay
@Justme42yay 6 ай бұрын
It wasn’t that it lacked the ability to track it was they didn’t have an advanced FF system so they had to visual ID targets so the over horizon targeting was nullified by too much friendly air traffic. Also, Top Gun doesn’t have a trophy or tournament.
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
They should have made the stealth variant F-15SE given how extremely expensive the 5th Gens F-22 and F-35 are
@LOTUG98
@LOTUG98 6 ай бұрын
That's what the F-15EX is for
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
@@LOTUG98 F-15EX doesn't have stealth capability nor was it made for stealth missions. The F-15SE was designed with stealth in mind
@dirtfarmer7472
@dirtfarmer7472 6 ай бұрын
The generals wanted a new toy so you & I gave them 1 does the USA need it maybe, maybe not, I don’t know
@dumdumbinks274
@dumdumbinks274 6 ай бұрын
The F-15SE wasn't stealthy. It had reduced signature compared to a regular F-15, making the SE more comparable to the F-16 on radar. It wasn't ordered because it was a private venture by Boeing that nobody asked for, and it offered no real advantages while being more expensive than a normal F-15.
@robbergerson4915
@robbergerson4915 5 ай бұрын
I'll be dammed. I grew up in Fallon in the late 70s. Never imagined it would grow into this monster of training!
@alanwayte432
@alanwayte432 6 ай бұрын
The only plane able to intercept concord in level flight...English Electric Lightning my Grandfather flew Hunters Phantoms and Lightnings, also F15 on exchange, the F15 was the most complete plane, but for speed and climb alone his Lightning was exceptional, it’s an open secret that it held the altitude record regularly reaching 70.000 feet..
@alliknowispain2745
@alliknowispain2745 6 ай бұрын
The F-4 was messed up by politicians not understanding war and the capability of the F-4.
@timsmith8506
@timsmith8506 5 ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is that politicians stick their nose into matters they don’t understand? Sounds accurate to me.
@jameschoice3983
@jameschoice3983 5 ай бұрын
Strange- when i was a young boy, I found the F-4 Phantom outstandingly impressive and beautiful - with its wing tips up and downward rear wings and the pair of engines....
@kevinkirk4285
@kevinkirk4285 5 ай бұрын
The first F-15, 73-0108 was delivered to the 555th Tactical Fighter Training Squadron on 01 November 1974 at Luke AFB, AZ with President Gerald Ford present. The 555th relocated to Aviano, AB Italy in the early 1990s after the F-15s were no longer stationed at Luke AFB AZ.
@jamess3241
@jamess3241 6 ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the channel, honestly it's one of my favorites across all of YT. I mean no disrespect in this and I am only saying this in fun, but: WATCH YOUR MOUTH THE NEXT TIME YOU TALK ABOUT THE WAY MY F-4 LOOKS
@nicholasleon7819
@nicholasleon7819 4 ай бұрын
the story of the arms race between the eagle and the foxbat is one of the funniest things ever to happen in military history
@pauldegregorio6432
@pauldegregorio6432 5 ай бұрын
I was golfing the South Course @ MacDill AFB in Florida in the mid 90s during an air show. I was teed up on a par 4 or 5 when I saw the shadow of a plane screaming toward us on the fairway. It then went vertical over our tee box. We looked up into the orange afterburners as the sound, heat and vibration was shocking. It knocked my ball off the tee. My opponent looked at me with a straight face and said, “ hitting 2”.😅
@Strato13
@Strato13 5 ай бұрын
I love the F-15 Eagle. It's a childhood favorite of mine, but I also have lots of love for the F-4 Phantom. One of the most unique looking USA Warplanes ever. Our planes are the best, and it makes it hard to pick which is my ultimate favorite because I also admire the SR-22. I really wish though, that the US would have gone with the YF-23 because I belive that plane would have had more agility and speed advantages in the sky, along with the stealth.
@tachyon8317
@tachyon8317 6 ай бұрын
"Cipher, I got a feeling you and me are gonna get along just fine... Buddy."
@alanguinn4810
@alanguinn4810 5 ай бұрын
I never realized that the Captain Pedersen, the CO of USS Ranger when I first checked onboard, had helped start Top Gun.
@HarriettArnold-ft6in
@HarriettArnold-ft6in 2 ай бұрын
I used to fly them in the 90s into early 2000s. They were the king of the world. Sad to see them going to the boneyard. As much as I love the f15, the f22 is leaps and bounds above it in all areas except top speed.
@Thenonsocial
@Thenonsocial 5 ай бұрын
My grandfather was an engineer on this bird, I remember he always called it the hawk.
@nubianprince2420
@nubianprince2420 6 ай бұрын
The phantom is beautiful
@Mentorman63
@Mentorman63 5 ай бұрын
The plane on the pedestal at around 10:35 is NOT a Mig 25. Whoa...
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 6 ай бұрын
For 40 years now I have never been able to understand how people can see the F-4 as ugly. Yeah, I have heard a thousand reasons, but that doesn't mean any of them make sense to me. Usually it reminds me of the whining of little children when their favorite toy gets insulted.
@willwinters3910
@willwinters3910 3 ай бұрын
"Introducing the F-15 Eagle!! It's like an XB-70, but in an economy fun-size!"
@maemorri
@maemorri 6 ай бұрын
3:55: Wow. McNamara thought it was a good idea to build 1 aircraft that could be used jointly by the Navy, Air Force and Marines. What a dope! Good thing we never repeated that mistake!
@worldwanderer91
@worldwanderer91 6 ай бұрын
F-35 and Lockheed Martin laughing at dumb politicians, military officers, and taxpayers
@dirtfarmer7472
@dirtfarmer7472 6 ай бұрын
We have some of the dumbest people in authority.
@klaspeppar5619
@klaspeppar5619 4 ай бұрын
You forgot the Saab J-35 Draken, which entered service in 1960 with the Swedish Air Force, which was a real thorn in the Soviets side.
@kamingleung3792
@kamingleung3792 5 ай бұрын
the Soviet counterpart to f4e was mig23mld, which was introduced after f15 already in Europe for few years lol. They never stood a chance after the Korean war
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 6 ай бұрын
Just watch the DCS professionals play with the F15 variants. It’s definitely my favorite looking, but it’s also not the greatest dogfighter. Times have changed with the high AOA and off bore Fox 2 missiles, and the advantage of stealth.
@OrionWebster
@OrionWebster 4 ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, the F14 and F22 remains the Supreme killers of the skies. The F15 is a close second 15:47 wait, wait, wait... the F15 has a tailhook?
@BKD70
@BKD70 4 ай бұрын
Yes... all fighters have tailhooks... for emergency landings. Only Naval aircraft are designed to land on carriers though.
@cliffordjones9715
@cliffordjones9715 5 ай бұрын
The F4E Phantom 11 and F15EX Eagle 2 is my 2 favorite jet air craft the F15 is the only fighter that can fly with one Wing 106 to 0 undefeated
@jameylandry1
@jameylandry1 5 ай бұрын
Good video. However, You didn’t mention in your assessment of the MIG-25 that it was designed in response to North American X-70 to be an interceptor of what would have been the world’s fastest bomber. The Soviets built and flew the MIG -25 even before the XB-70 was retired in 1969, so by 1976 it was already 10 years or more years old. Their original purpose now removed, MIG-25 essentially was a solution looking for a problem. Its age has no effect on its agility, but a better comparison would probably be the F-104, also a fast interceptor with marginal maneuverability. It is also probably fair to mention the 104’s short comings in air superiority as another influence on F-15 design.
@Ionizap
@Ionizap 5 ай бұрын
So is that wreckage at 24:00 a f-15 or not? Can't imagine the wreckage scattered over an area so small. Something else I'm guessing but the two fins make you wonder.
@Badmuthaphka
@Badmuthaphka 6 ай бұрын
Awesome timing for this video my gummies just kicked in and I'm high as shit 😊
@fuldecogamer
@fuldecogamer 6 ай бұрын
Wtf
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 6 ай бұрын
Wtf
@Badmuthaphka
@Badmuthaphka 6 ай бұрын
@@fuldecogamer what? I like to get high and enjoy these videos 🤗
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 6 ай бұрын
@@Badmuthaphka fair
@stanleydavidson6543
@stanleydavidson6543 6 ай бұрын
Being high isn't good for you and nothing to be proud about
@johnwilliams8855
@johnwilliams8855 5 ай бұрын
I always the F4 looked like the baddest mo-Joe Coming face to face with a F4 made the other guys have douts about their chosen profession. Especially when they saw 20 foot flames from those J79 engines and the crazy radar lock in their helmets!
@simul8guy75
@simul8guy75 4 ай бұрын
Maybe when you talk about the Mig-25 you should actually show video of that aircraft...
@mazekaos
@mazekaos 6 ай бұрын
104-0 I’d say it’s still most deadly fighter of all time
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable 5 ай бұрын
What's truly amazing is that no one has really matched the F15 to this day. Russia has the Su57, but not in serious numbers. China has the J20, but there are serious doubts about its actual capabilities. The US has two fighters that are better than this beast, and the Navy has one with similar capabilities. This plane left the world playing catchup for five decades, and they still haven't actually caught up!
@casperionx
@casperionx 4 ай бұрын
Even the decepticons saw the brilliance of the design utilising it for their earth based seekers….
@MikeOxlong-
@MikeOxlong- 6 ай бұрын
The ads were absolutely ridiculous. Couldn’t stand watching more than a quarter of this short clip after 4 back to back doubled commercials hat had to be skipped or wait 2 minutes for each to pass… 🤦‍♂️
@ajm2872
@ajm2872 4 ай бұрын
The F15 is one of the fighter jets ever made.
@RavenRunFoxRoam
@RavenRunFoxRoam 6 ай бұрын
Thank you MIG 25 for the F15. They wouldn't have built it without you.
@JustDalton
@JustDalton 5 ай бұрын
24:02 “they found the wreckage of an F-15…” 24:11 “…and zero losses, the F-15…” You stated the direct opposites less than 10 seconds apart. WTF?
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 6 ай бұрын
Love the F15, but the F14 was the first fighter that could attack multiple targets at the same time.
@dancotterman1267
@dancotterman1267 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely the best ever built. Not stealthy, or intended to be. But landing with one wing? Come on, that's pretty cool. Never been defeated world heavyweight champion. F-16 for dogfighting and lightweight single engine efficiency though. Both are free world heroes and served mankind well. Both still being made today. Amazing legacy i'm proud of.
@DavidFMayerPhD
@DavidFMayerPhD 3 ай бұрын
It would scare the hell out of me if my adversaries possessed such an aircraft.
@kempmt1
@kempmt1 4 ай бұрын
Even though the Navy F-14 Tomcat is still my favorite fighter, I do consider the Air Force’s F-15 Eagle as a very great fighter. Oh, the F-15 looks better than the MiG-25! 2:57-“…it looks a little bit like a typical aircraft model kit that had been assembled wrong!” 4:13-I believe the aircraft you are referring to is the F-111. 18:43-those planes on the right are Su-24 Fencers, not MiG-25s
@super_slav91
@super_slav91 5 ай бұрын
MIG-31 was the first plane capable of targeting multiple targets at the same time 25 but earlier models I think 12 and was first with a phased array radar which made it possible. It could also communicate in a sorty to tell other planes in formation which formation is best. mIG-25 Holds the record to climb at 189.85s to 30,000M.
@KarolusTemplareV
@KarolusTemplareV 4 ай бұрын
The F-14 did the multiple targeting before I think.
@super_slav91
@super_slav91 4 ай бұрын
​@@KarolusTemplareV F14 got it later with phased array (passive) radar post 1991. The MiG-31 was the world's first operational fighter/interceptor with a passive electronically scanned array and it can track up to 10 targets and simultaneously attack four of them with its Vympel R-33 later variants can engage 8 or more, lead aircrafts computer automatically sends the best form of confrontation to others in formation. you need a passive radar to engage multiple targets. Only later f14's had phased array around 1991 onward when america cought up in radar technology.
@KarolusTemplareV
@KarolusTemplareV 4 ай бұрын
Nov. 21, 1973 , they tested the F-14A , firing 6 phoenix missiles at 6 different targets in the span of 38 seconds , in which the F-14 guided them with it's own radar simultaneously to the targets , with 4 hits, one target drone suffering a malfunction so it was a no-result, and one of the Phoenixes failing. Mind you, this was very early in the life of the jet, before tinkering out any issues preproduction aircraft have and nearly two years before the aircraft was fully introduced operationally. So the F-14 did it before even when the Mig-31 wasn't even flying, not even as a prototype.
@super_slav91
@super_slav91 4 ай бұрын
@@KarolusTemplareV The radar was a first of it's kind in aviation due to it being the first time a PESA radar had been installed in a jet fighter, this was previously reserved for ground based systems and the B1 bomber, several mig-25 test beds were fitted with the Zaslon radar, in April 1972 a MiG-25RBS fitted with Zaslon and it's accompanying targeting computer Shot down 4 su-7 drones during a simulated intercept, 2 missiles were launched simultaneously followed by another 2 half a second later, the test was successful and the Zaslon was ready for the MIG-31 when it entered passed state trials this took another 3 years due to the radars power consumption. The Zaslon Radar was only available on the mig-31 interceptor as the technology was not approved for export. It was not until 1997 when the US had its first Phased Array Radar fitted to a fighter in the F-22 Raptor.
@chrisgriffith1573
@chrisgriffith1573 5 ай бұрын
US all the way. Not only do we have the most functional air force in the world, with integrated role training, but we also have the largest and most extensive support for these forces. It is not just a battle against the forces we have in the air, but the entirety of logistics and systems that project this power as it moves forward. Then there is the intel. From the radars to the communications no other air force can match it.
@edstroub7250
@edstroub7250 6 ай бұрын
Love to see the F15 with thrust vectoring
@NavySooner
@NavySooner 4 ай бұрын
The truth about Top Gun is every pilot in the Navy has to go through the school. How do I know this? I was in the Navy and worked on F-18’s and went to Top Gun for my squadron 3 times. Also the record speed of the foxbat was made during a dive, so imo that is not a record. Talking about the “dog fighting” of the f-15, Naval F-18 pilots constantly out fight them.
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