Why the Humans Were Good in DISTRICT 9

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

District 9 is one of the movies that I really enjoyed watching. If it had a sequel, I'd love to watch it.

[@GenerationFilms]

Yea blomkamp makes really good movies

[@pyeitme508]

@@GenerationFilms why not respond to me?!

[@GenerationFilms]

Hello

[@pyeitme508]

@@GenerationFilms respond to my other comments.

[@casbot71]

There has been on and off again talk of a sequel ever since District 9 came out. It would show what happens when "Christopher" returns. It wouldn't be more of the same, and it apparently wouldn't be a traditional humans vs alien story. Instead there were doing to be competing factions on each side. Last I heard it's either in development hell or the script isn't right yet.

[@neilstone9954]

The pron could also be a slave species used by another even more advanced race

[@TheAngelobarker]

Conquered species that and advanced race transfomed into prawns. They then rebelled on a slave ship and took over.

[@paultrappiel9943]

@@TheAngelobarker That kind of fits. Christopher was very intelligent and likely transporting his latest victims (over 1 million) and we were next.

[@RitsuCurisu]

That would make sense, considering how they possess technology to turn completely foreign creatures into more prawns, it seems like they were a slave species with super strength but low enough intelligence to keep in control.

[@Firebirdwinters]

Matches the parallels of the apartheid era camps. White South Africans pointed at the lack of unity and cooperation in the camps despite all being the same as evidence of their barbarity. They completely ignored that they were different ethnic groups from different areas that often spoke different languages. They all looked the same to people in power who didn't even bother trying to communicate or work with them.

[@RitsuCurisu]

@Rechordian That actually makes them even better slaves. Interesting.

[@Gotobar]

The first thought that struck me when I heard that the Human researchers had to cut their way into a ship and then found all the aliens were Malnourished and sickly inside, is that they might be outcasts or prisoners or were being quarantined or something that were exiled on basically a prison vessel. Doesn’t seem like they we’re meant to get out.

[@lordbrobert1884]

One interesting thing that aligns with your stance is why the aliens have the tech to alter a different species into a prawn. The prawns could be not just a separate class of their own, but a bioengineered species of slaves by the true alien leaders. With that tech, they could conquer us and then assimilate our entire species into the prawn class as slaves. Great video btw

[@whereskentuckybruce8245]

Freedom_Ninja we’ll have to find out in district 10

[@Dadecorban]

It doesn't have to be an intentional effect of the substance. It could be a regenerative medicine for curing prawns of virtually any possible alien contagion, by actually regenerating their body. A non-prawn comes in contact with it and what is a helpful treatment becomes a deadly retrovirus. (that usually doesn't even work on non-prawns) Written on the side of the "battery" was "Do not ingest if not prawn", (as far as we know) but you are proposing that this is some sort of evidence for a hostile strategic intent. These guesses about intentions are based on huge assumptions, many of them being unknown unknowns. This is no different from a human being walking into an alien fusion reactor compartment on the ship, not understanding what the purpose of the room is, the radiation shielding is damaged, the human die gruesome deaths, and then assessing that the prawns intentionally activated some sort of security device to defend the room from humans.

[@drakesilmore3760]

@@Dadecorban Yeah, but I've never seen someone go to a planet with 800.000 individuals for peaceful intentions. Hardly looks like an exploration or diplomacy mission. Either they were fleeing (which is contradicted by the guy taking the ship back home) or they were planning to do something on Earth with 800.000 aliens.

[@sivansharma5027]

But what if... That alien ship is actually a human ship from the future and everyone accidentally got exposed to the liquid and became prawns by the time the ship reached earth? Maybe the future humans made the liquid themselves, or maybe they acquired it from actual aliens as they were journeying back to Earth

[@drakesilmore3760]

@Iron Boot Or maybe it was just a ship that captured 800.000 slaves (not a lot of weapons were present on the ship as far as we know) and they just "crash-landed" on the Earth due to technical difficulties randomly. Guess we'll never find out until district 10 comes out. So, never.

[@monster8090]

The fact that being exposed to the black stuff turns a human into a prawn suggests that the prawns could be many different species of aliens. If the ship developed a leak in the fuel system that powers all their technology it's likely that every type of animal that gets exposed would become a prawn. This would also explain the situation they found the ship in. If the fuel can turn a man into a prawn why not a rat or cockroach? It would explain so many things about the differences between the behavior of the different prawns depending what kinds of animals they were before being exposed. Also if it was a recent event many of them would still have the mind of an animal. Only the pilot and his son would have been safe from the animals that suddenly became prawns because he detached the command module. The rest of the crew would be trapped with the animals and probably killed by them.

[@Nozomu564]

Humanity, a more delightful species than us you'll never, ever find.

[@eltxbox2496]

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[@kylethompson6721]

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[@Ssstaby]

So listen up you star slime we are ready for your worst.

[@casbot71]

@@kylethompson6721 hyper intelligent, Pan Dimensional _mice.…_

[@heinoobermeyer7566]

@@Ssstaby We know you want to beat us , oppress us and brow beat us unless we get you first!

[@cosmicdan5907]

"Half life gravity gun shenanigans" best line

[@mcmann7149]

The SA government were tasked with an unprecedented problem and forced to comply with international demands without the international community actually knowing what they had to face. It was the best idea with race riots breaking out to split the alien and human populations.

[@Cha-Khia]

@@osmosisjones4912 I'm gonna apologize in advance for saying this, your spelling is like that internet old "how is babby formed" meme, could you perhaps spell/grammar check that mess?

[@SpearM3064]

@@Cha-Khia I'm gonna apologize in advance for saying this, but his spelling is *just fine.* Not a single word is misspelled, though he definitely forgot a few commas to break up those run-on sentences.

[@omgwtfbbqstfu]

A dark reflection of what actually happened in South Africa. Now that the dream has spoiled you will notice they don't mention it anymore.

[@vinsanity982]

@@Cha-Khia Grammar nazis is a tell tale sign of a narcissist.

[@anaiwithaccesstotheinterne4424]

@@vinsanity982 narcissists get more pussy

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

DiStRiCt 9 iS OfFEnCiVe Give me a break, it’s a great movie.

[@samstone9492]

@juli8201 juli8201 I'm sure Sharlto Copley turning black throughout the movie isnt gonna go down well either

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

juli8201 juli8201 , no it doesn’t. It’s called analogy, and there is nothing diminishing about it

[@mechanomics2649]

Who is saying this? This's the first I've ever heard this in all of the years after its release.

[@creamyburgerkingshickenpre9000]

Offensive*

[@MisuOfArabonaClan]

@@mechanomics2649 like neckbeards care

[@Tclans]

I think district 9 has a deeper message, in that the prawns embody the role of ‘another group’. In that it shows humanities weakness for things that differ from ones norm. Then again it also shows the willingness of people to help others in need. Therefore I feel this movie is somewhat of a mirror, showing us how we have behaved and to an extended still behave.

[@rdstov]

Considering the transformative properties of the liquid, perhaps the prawns were originally humans that had been abducted. They perhaps revolted and managed to return to earth, but not before they were transformed into prawns. Hence their inability to operate the ship?

[@Cha-Khia]

It's not likely, that one prawn and his kid managed to pilot it somehow.

[@majesticnative9693]

You are very intelligent

[@rdstov]

Rechordian fuel source? Yes, it creates fuel. The fuel is labor (prawn labor). If they can convert the entire planet to stupid prawns, then they (the native/smart prawns) could then have the labor needed to create more ships, and the fuel needed to power them.

[@Pendleton115]

@@rdstov Then why would they need it to start one small dropship, if all it does is turn people into prawns.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@Rechordian What if it's both; the only reason why there weren't large amounts of it is because the prawns were working with tech and chemistry that they barely understood (which is to say sub par human technologies that they weren't able to use properly). Say that the prawns had access to their own tech and could mass produce the "fuel" is it unreasonable that they had one material that could be widely produced and modified it to fill multiple needs?

[@timelinedifferential6787]

One thing I agree with Allen, these are aliens and not humans. All joking aside that is very important to keep in mind. As aliens, we know exactly zip about them. We don't even know what the ship was. Allen suggests invasion ship it also could be a penal ship. It could be that the ship was transporting the most violent members of their species (Which would explain some of their behavior) to a highly secure prison somewhere when the guidance system was broken by the inmates after they killed their guards and, they wound up here by mistake. The could be a full-fledged colony ship that would have behaved as badly or worse than European colonists treated the natives in "White Colonies" such as the US, Canada and Australia. All that weaponry being on board is not a good sign. Aside from the movie itself if we run into an alien species we should treat it with caution. Not hostility but caution. We should find out as much as we can about them as quickly as possible. They could be good, bad or some mixture of the two for us. We might accidentally insult them by acting in a manner that seems friendly to us but not to them. That might happen in the other direction. We won't know why they contacted us but it could be good or bad. Neither can be ruled out. Their motivations are likely quite different than ours. They would have an entirely different evolutionary path and have an entirely different culture.

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

Timelinedifferential I agree with your thinking- unfortunately, it’s probably way beyond most of this channel’s viewers.

[@killian9314]

Like the dove in mars attack

[@hydrohedinvictus8697]

i think disease is the reason the aliens were sent to earth cmiiw

[@timelinedifferential6787]

@@Viewer-cu8hv Agreed, in fact, the most technologically advanced countries on the planet such as the US, Japan and Germany should have been looking at the weapons , along with the entire ship, to figure them out. Maybe was just a scouting mission went bad, and more of them are coming. We want to figure out the tech in case we need to fight them. Inspecting their ship will help us figure out how to make interstellar ships ourselves, if possible.

[@shiestiestkretin5975]

The message in this movie was pretty clear. But yes you can pick anything apart.

[@libertyprime6482]

The spanish Inquisition declares you innocent.

[@drwho6908]

Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!!!

[@drwho6908]

And their Comfy Chair!!!

[@libertyprime6482]

Burning heretics intensefies

[@okaywhatevernevermind]

Thank you Spanish Inquisition! I told you I didn’t do nuthin

[@antiform47]

I think theres a discrepancy between being "humane" and being practical. It was the practical option to dissect his body to try and understand how to use their weapons, but it wasnt humane. This is especially showcased in the unnecessary misstreatment that occured every step of the way. Humans were seen physically kicking and mistreating the aliens regardless of them doing anything wrong. another example, when the scientists decided to test the weaponry by shocking him for example even after he said he would pull the trigger;as well as of course completely disregarding his life or any suffering completely. Like you said they couldve taken a blood sample but they didnt even take the time to explore other options, they didnt care for his life and decided to just kill him without an afterthought. This is obviously an extremely inhumane way to go about things. Its especially demonstrated at the end when the antagonist literally decides he wants to kill the main character because hes caused him trouble. Meaning hed jeopardize the practical research that wouldve supposedly helped humanity just because he wants to kill. His quote something along the lines of "my favorite thing in the world is killing these prawns" With that said I dont see how you can come to the conclusion that humans in this film generally acted "humanely" in any capacity. You could say "they did what they had to do" but that doesnt make it humane. And just for reference, the definition of humane: 1: marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals

[@conormccann2850]

Yeah, I have no idea how the fuck this guy is defining humane. This is all just apologetics at best and fascist rhetoric at worst.

[@jasonvoorhees5180]

My thoughts exactly

[@Dadecorban]

So let me drop some wisdom on you. It's impossible to get normal people to engage in practical but inhumane behavior for functional reasons and not dehumanize, and devalue the target of the inhumane behavior. That's how our brains work. Once you dehumanize them, and devalue them to the point that you can do these practical things on living creatures, it's an unavoidable side-effect that the normal human beings involved are going to also mistreat them when there is no practical or function reason to do so. It works this way because 98% of human beings aren't monsters. In order to get human beings to to the point that they can dissect another sentient being, you have to get them to the point where kicking them for no reason is no different than swatting a fly or finishing off a mouse caught in a trap. This is the way this works, and every terrible situation in human history is a case study. You can't separate these two things, and you can't expect one to happen and not the other. It's also does a disservice and is unreasonable to expect human beings that we put in these situations to act differently, cruel even. This is why modern militaries so heavily regulate what soldiers are allowed to do. Once a US soldier steps over or past a wounded enemy soldier that enemy becomes a POW that must be treated like a human being. We specialize who is allowed to kill them, and when, and make those people different from who gets to interrogate them. You very narrowly allow these practical things in a way that minimizes the side-effects and even then normal human beings have problems functioning in acceptable ways. Abu Ghraib happened and was a huge scandal and no one even died or was permanently harmed, and its exactly what happens when normal human beings are put in those situations where the rules aren't strictly followed, and compartmentalization of tasks isn't held to. Once civilian employees are openly dissecting sentient human beings for practical purposes you are way past any sort of working rules like the military is capable of mostly enforcing on highly trained people......there is absolutely no reason to expect normal human beings not to also kick that same creature for no reason, at some later point and it be fairly accepted within the group; anymore than you should expect a match to not light when struck.

[@Desyx14]

Was wondering where all these comments where. He literally shows them in camps while touting humanity as some godsend

[@mechanomics2649]

@@Dadecorban Do you think anyone's going to read this essay? You might want to look into becoming more rhetorically effective. I don't mean that in a pejorative manner.

[@nicolasvisbal660]

The point of District 9 was to highlight that discrimination comes from surface-level observation. We, as an audience, know that the prawns are not just physically superior, but they’re capable of human-level intellect; Wikus is living proof of that. Despite the fact that they came on a spaceship, and have access to advanced technology, our instinct, because of their gnarly appearance, is to segregate, criminalize, and profit off of an otherwise helpless species. We’ve seen themes like this for ages like Caliban in Shakespeare's, ”Tempest.” How the prawns arrived, and what their intentions are is intentionally irrelevant. Blomkamp wants us to focus on the human reaction to their arrival and draw ethical questions. There is a lot of gray in this film for a reason, and Blomkamp's biases lean in favor of the prawns.

[@viktorvlasov483]

Yes, and no blomkamp had enough mind to not portrait them harmless.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Our first reaction should have been to use them as a food source for the people of Africa.

[@wuftchan8299]

it reflects actual human history well too- pretty sure if they came down in a nice shiny ship looking like elves from the hobbit they would have seen them as people

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

@@wuftchan8299 Yes, because Elves and Hobbits aren't filthy bug men.

[@honkeykong4049]

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[@UncleMikeDrop]

It was odd that they didn't sequence Prawn DNA then map out the Prawn genome in order to isolate the Tech Activation Gene or TAG for short which could then be synthesized into a gene serum to allow humans to activate, study, and reverse engineer Prawn tech without mutating said humans into pseudoPrawns.

[@Fred100159]

Or..... Cut off every Prawn's right hand. These could then be hollowed out and made into a kind of gauntlet that human soldiers could wear to fire the weapons. At the same time, making it that much more difficult for the Prawns to use them - it's hard to pull a trigger without any fingers.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@Fred100159 LOL

[@asaenvolk]

Look at the tech, I don't think they were at that level of genetic engineering when the movie was made and this was alien DNA, so that is even worse.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@asaenvolk Scientists have been working on sequencing DNA since 1990 so that should be well within their ability. The only reason why they didn't is just from a writing perspective but there isn't really much of an in universe justification. They just wanted to go with the less humane plot element in order to stay on message.

[@asaenvolk]

@@UncleMikeDrop Yes, and this movie takes place in the era of the apartheid (ie those same 90s), so that was very new tech, and we were just starting to get a hold of terrestrial DNA, never mind alien DNA, and we didn't even have the human genome sequenced by then, a project that wasn't even launched until almost a decade later.

[@casbot71]

Humanity did make mistakes, *we didn't steal their ship.* The ship should have been full of research teams trying to figure out how it works - hopefully without turning it off above a major city… Maybe it could have even been towed to a facility, or a structure built to encompass it. Thus giving the chance for more extensive testing and maybe even partial disassembly in controlled circumstances. That was the greatest technological prize, interstellar travel. The Alien's weaponry was impressive, but except for the exoskeleton (which MNU* didn't know about), individual weapons would lose to a platoon of human soldiers, let alone heavy weapons. But being able to travel the stars, visit new worlds, and _claim them and their inhabitants in the name of Humanity._ That would revolutionise human society far more than handheld energy weapons. And study of the ship could've also led to breakthroughs in power generation, solving many, many problems on Earth. We fight each other and pollute our only planet over scarce resources, when we could be instead united…fighting other species and taking their resources (and not polluting _our_ Homeworld). At the very least a large research team and the accompanying security forces could have retaken the ship when one of the secretive "leader" caste stole it in clear violation of accepted salvage rights. No doubt to bring more Aliens to Earth while meanwhile leaving us with the problem of a rapidly breeding population of moronic arthropods with superhuman strength. If there was nothing sinister in his intent, why didn't he control the workers and make them less confrontational. Why didn't he try and negotiate their departure, removing a growing threat to the local humans. The secrets to a few useful technological advancements, say in power generation would have been a useful barging chip. And why did he have a fluid that overwrote blessed human DNA and metamorphosed anyone exposed into one of their species? Was that their plan all along, turn key human personnel into Prawns in order to help take us over? We were fortunate that they didn't bother to include a number of spare leader types - or maybe a particularly dumb worker accidentally fired a blaster in the captain's ready room during a senior staff meeting. * The other big mistake was in letting Nigerian gangs horde alien weaponry, not only did it carry the risk that if the secret of using alien weaponry got loose they would have serious firepower, they might have been able to get the Prawns to follow their orders and just be grunts. And they were depriving MNU of research items. MNU should have cleared out the gangs in a military operation. And then gone into the *_cat food_*_ retail business_ as the sole supplier to the refugee community. In a little while they would have ever piece of technology that the Prawns had somehow been allowed to smuggle off their disabled ship that had crashed in human territory. We let them get away, and we let the go with knowledge of our Homeworld. They will be back, and we have lost the chance to meet them out in space with our own ships. We lost the initiative.

[@RealSensationalBeing]

I think the genetic lockout was supposed to be the reason they stopped trying with the ship. If they overcame that they might have gone back.

[@Fidelis_Inferno]

I feel like you're onto something with that idea, however I do not think a majority of our scientist would even begin to understand the Prawn tech. Like you said we are wasting time with handheld energy guns after all. We can't even seem to get that right let alone figuring out how to backward engineer a space fairing specie's spacecraft. We would need their help in understand the technology. Now this is were the movie Arrival shows the true value in communication with an initially non-hostile xeno species. Once we can develop communication at an advanced level we can then hopefully learn so much from them. We need to build trust while keeping one hand hidden just in case of rebellion. Only then can we learn from them and their technological advancements and then harness them as our own. This is what it means to survive the galactic circle of life and to be at the top of the food chain. Learn from your enemies, improve yourself, and make what was once their advantage your own. For all of mankind.

[@killian9314]

We lost the high ground, but mankind still has the advantage of fighting in it's own turf if They come to Us, unless they have some exterminatus tier weaponry capabilities, then we are fucked

[@Blizzard-vd6ty]

@@killian9314 we dont have the advantage. Considering the fact that they might have colonies out there, numbers alone would take us down. Not to mention their strength, a prawn going melee would be the equivalent of 10 humans. Combined with advance firearms and a natural exoskeleton we're pretty much dead

[@killian9314]

@@Blizzard-vd6ty i was just saying, it could be a vietnam war like scenario, of asymetrical warfare

[@Rensune]

Considering what's happening in South Africa right now, District 9 REALLY didn't age well.

[@BungieStudios]

The savage Aliens return to murder everyone in District 10. 🙃

[@rhoetusochten4211]

Based off what the director has said, District 9 was not about Apartheid, but about the current state of affairs. He was trying to show that, even though we may believe the worst about the "invaders" who are so alien, we are more alike than not.

[@rhoetusochten4211]

@The Modern Stoic no, it just looks like apartheid wasn't relegated to just a black/white issue.

[@edwinstridh9142]

@Amber Hoke Get out of here with your racist hate facts

[@5h0rgunn45]

@Amber Hoke *Islamic radicals have been systematically killing off Middle Eastern Christians (many of whom are, by the way, Arabs) for years. Muslims who are not radicals have been fighting alongside Christians and others in Syria for over 8 years now against the radicals to maintain their secular society. bigg9117 The Ottoman Empire did not exist during the crusades era. The Rashidun Caliphate captured the Holy Land from the Byzantine Empire in the early 600s, and the Western Christians (who were not Byzantines and had nothing to do with the Islamic invasions until the invasion of Spain) attacked in the late 1000s... over 400 years later. That's like modern-day Germany invading Italy to "take back" their land there.

[@sandorsbox]

“Using aliens to help us recognize our own mistakes is offensive.” Why? It’s called allegory. Allegory has been used to point out failures in society since the beginning of storytelling

[@thesneakystrangler9002]

Zechariah Bryan But they are inhuman by looks. it’s made clear that constant years of oppression led to anger, just as it would in real life. Imagine being a space faring civilization and then when you make it clear you mean no harm, didn’t mean to arrive, and just want to leave to a simpler civilization that would be equal to us in the dark ages, and they steal your defenses, put you in concentration camp conditions where people will literally cut you up and eat you to get your “power” all while their military is making large scale attempts to separate and abandon you completely. After 20 years of that, would you not be extremely angry? or slowly losing you mind due to drug like addictions to the planet’s food? And they are shown to make it on their own better than us, they just need repairs to leave.

[@TedTeddison99]

When I watched this movie for the first time I thought “By the Emperor! A human turning into a filthy Xenos? Those damn dirty weeabo space communists must be behind this!”

[@TedTeddison99]

God emperor Of mankind The Imperial Creed demands it my lord!

[@WallNutBreaker524]

@@moneymrcrabs6814 HERESY.

[@bastardsquirrel1291]

Prawns? Does that mean they're good with lemon butter?

[@QuantumAscension1]

Bastard Squirrel que Hannibal Lecter’s tongue-mouth noise 😛😂

[@asaenvolk]

A prawn in SA is VERY different than what your thinking, prawn in SA are basically a katydid relative

[@bastardsquirrel1291]

Ya, but scorpion is land lobster n would be bigger scale..... Mmmm . Add some garlic

[@bastardsquirrel1291]

@@asaenvolk n still insectiod under water... Stir fried prolly goodt

[@bastardsquirrel1291]

Crunchy out side n tasty in middle

[@johnivanoplimo5172]

Say it with me now... Fookin' Prowns.

[@RegisTraiter]

1 thumbs up = 1 fookin' prown

[@sirloinsteakwithpeppercorn7353]

@Otto von Bismarck and look at why Europe is going down the drain and America will forever be divided

[@milofouche1049]

its Foken prawns

[@lunasknight2162]

Otto von Bismarck Amen to that.

[@Gibblegobblegoob]

Completely off topic here but I remember buying a copy of district 9 when I eas 15 at dollar store for a dollar it was such a great movie I always wondered why it was so heavily discounted

[@kendallspeaks6869]

You made two mistakes in this vid. Some if the prawns were scientists and had advanced intelligence in understanding combat scenarios and creating substances that tamper with human dna. Number two is that the prawns actually had human like connections with there young ones shown by the baby prawn aiding the adult prawns in their research.

[@jennyjoot9184]

yea that bothered me too watching the video, dude sounds like he didn't even watch the movie, just skimmed over a summary or something

[@guikoi3101]

To be fair, it's possible the actual attachments only form after the egg hatches and the child emerges. I would imagine it as kind of an "in-between" of the R and K selection types. Have tons of kids and the ones that survive, put tons of resources into them. Or something, I don't know.

[@connorgolden4]

While this is true it doesn’t take away much from his points. And it could be they were just the exceptions, maybe the last members of the higher up prawns. The rest really do seem to be unintelligent and violent.

[@chosenfallen2024]

3:15 Chris Hadfield on Vanity Fair talked about how astronauts have guns on their pods for landing. The Pod could be knock off course and they land in a hostile environment. Remember our own astronauts are mostly military trained along with being scientist as well. We won't why they have weapons, I would argue peaceful or not, it's best to have a way to defend yourself in case things go south.

[@Jarnauga]

Absolutely. The argument that they have guns meaning any kind of hostile intention makes no sense. If we send a ship into space, to explore for example, of course we would take adequate amounts of weaponry, since there is no telling what we might encounter. Even if our planet were to be destroyed and we had to flee as refugees into space, hoping to find another planet to live on or find refugees with some potential species that might live somewhere, but we don't know anything about, we would take all the weapons we can get our hands on. Of course, refugees on earth usually flee to other humans, who in these days, they know quite a bit about and don't have to pack weapons, but if you flee without knowing were you are going or what you might encounter, you take a weapon, that is not just human, but quite logical, rational behavior.

[@thesneakystrangler9002]

Yeah, it definitely feels a lot of the argument on the human side is just assumptions (even though in trailers and the film itself it’s shown explicitly that they mean us no harm and didn’t even mean to get here)

[@miguellemir242]

Astronauts crry firarms to fend off bears and wildlife. They don't carry IFVs in case they encoutnered organzie military resistance. Handguns I can udnerstand, that exo-skeleton thing? No way.

[@chosenfallen2024]

@@miguellemir242 Ita been 2 yrs so I'm vague on the convo, but I assume you talking about the weapons the aliens had. I would argue we as humanity have not traveled through space ourselves. So we don't know all the dangers out there. The aliens have advance technology, but they never did anything to attack humanity. They clearly could. That shows me at least they were not hostile. But you know ppl assume, especially when scared

[@greatzez]

I think two quotes from starship troopers comes to mind with what we should have done. "The only good bug is a dead bug." "Kill them all."

[@godemperorofmankind4186]

The only good xeno is a dead one

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

Imposter

[@crimzonrayz3274]

Ryan Zezula kill all the humans where not worthy

[@norten76]

@@godemperorofmankind4186 Purge them all! For the Emperor!

[@rondonscorcho5516]

The humans in starship troopers were the bad guys

[@Nick-te2zj]

I think you nailed it with the word incompetence. The humans in charge made poor decisions which in my opinion squandered a potential ace in the hole against the potential alien threat

[@Chase14videos]

So your saying South Africa's leadership is incompetent? Who'd a thought

[@vlonekai909]

Chase Holden yeah who would of thought 😂

[@connorgolden4]

Incompetent? How do? From the way it’s described in the film SA was (obviously) unprepared to deal with a million+ non humans. Then had to deal with it by themselves and with no real aid. The situation became unsustainable because the prawn population had grown and district 9 had become overcrowded. They also caused lots of damage and death to the locals, pushing the people to the brink. Moving the prawns was the only solution outside of just killing them all. And while MNUs secondary objective was a bit greedy it was also logical.

[@johndoe-fz3sz]

@@Chase14videos lets be honest it wouldn't be the south Africa in charge would it that shit would be taken out of there hands by the usa and other countries in a sec.

[@Red19487]

Do not forget that the Prawns have tried crossbreeding with humans so keep the Prawns away and Human genome clean. Humanity First.

[@khai96x]

@@angaeverett515 heresy.

[@ShinigamiInuyasha777]

Man i think prawns were prostitutes for human. Who is worse the xenos or the human that fucks a 2 meter shrimp?

[@godemperorofmankind4186]

heresy!!!!

[@mode3763]

So none of you would like to clap some prawn cheeks?

[@windmoonsoon4472]

@@mode3763 I hate to say this but ill clap ALMOST anything so long as it has the ability, age, and mental capacity to give consent, demons from bloodborne are hot in a confusing scary way, but I mean imagine the type of soul sucking that could be done, ill stOP

[@monkeycaboose6872]

The prawns are an arbitrary outgroup. We don't understand them so we suspect the worse. Any trouble they cause we assume is intentional hostility. We act cruelly to them but tell ourselves its ok because "they can't feel like we feel." We take instances of misunderstanding and think they can't be reasoned with. But the main character, who understands them, knows this isn't true. They CAN be reasoned with and they DO feel how we feel. Respect everyone and everything, no matter how different, scary, or inconvenient.

[@friendlymerchant7001]

Im south african and i love that movie, its so south african all the slight details are so good

[@wendya881]

Ahh... disrict 9, gosh i love that film i wish there was another movie (btw cool vid)

[@pyeitme508]

Agree!

[@peterlamprou7823]

Well there will be a sequel

[@Nalumah]

Imagine calling the physical, psychological, and verbal torture of Wikus "incompetence," rather than what it is: evil. Imagine painting this torturous military contracting company is "good" and "humane"

[@WallNutBreaker524]

salt much? i dont hear people complain when peoples head were being chopped off in akame ga kill , who cares? its fiction , and if it was real , humanity first..

[@Wilf190]

@@WallNutBreaker524 You do realise the torture, autopsy and experimentation on people actually happens/happened? District 9 is based on a real segregation camp that existed called district 6. The aliens are a metaphor for black people within South Africa during apartheid. They were alienated from society.

[@sjk7467]

@@WallNutBreaker524 who cares is braindead thing to say when we're all here on a video analyzing it and it's an allegory for real events.

[@sjk7467]

Agreed this is seriously one of the worst videos I've ever heard. It started out basically saying allegory is bad if you use anything but humans and then only got worse and worse from there. His viewpoints are legitimately disgusting.

[@AlphaWolfShade]

@karinalumen9722 _"why we as humans cant advance."_ I guess we will pretend that everything is just as bad as it was in the bronze age then, right? Humans obviously have advanced dramatically and I would even argue that our advancement is speeding up with recent efforts. _"Lack of empathy, the whole point of the movie full over his head. The point of deeming others below us because there different."_ I like to think he sets these videos as a challenge to try and spin the obvious antagonists as more reasonable than the, obviously bias, narrative sets them as.

[@edcoffeebean]

My theory: (Spoiler Alert) This is a story of imprisonment and bad luck. I always thought the black fluid transformed the alien crew. It altered their DNA and transformed them into prawns like it did Wikus van de Merwe. It was this black fluid that made them disinterested in improving their situation and unruly (it was a necessary tradeoff in order to survive the long journey). This perhaps was a method of the altering the original species to handle the rigors and dangers of space travel. This was standard operating procedure to metamorphose into a tougher organism then reverse the condition with the machines on the mother ship. Christopher Johnson said he knew how to fix Wikus, and I believe he would have done it if the MNU wasn't dissecting his peeps. Something happened on the mother ship prior to arriving Johannesburg and forced Christopher to seek shelter in the command module (he was the smart one and would have fixed the crew, but he couldn't). When the ship was boarded by the humans, that's when he left the mother ship. He never got an opportunity to revert to his original form and do the same for the rest of the crew. They are all imprisoned to live as prawns and savor cat food. District 9 was a great movie, and I want a sequel! When Christopher comes back, we'll see what the original species looked like (maybe it's us?).

[@dirtybaystrangler]

In my opinion Christopher kept his word and did come back to help Wickus. This, I believe is shown in Elysium with the machine that cures diseases and can pretty much alter DNA. At this point I have a hard time figuring out the possibility that Christopher may have used this technology to alter his son's and his DNA to become human and if Wickus got the help that he needed.

[@Wilf190]

@@dirtybaystrangler Well we will find out soon, district 10 is confirmed. In all honesty with the themes of apartheid and real world history within district 9. I wouldnt be surprised if wickus becomes the Prawns MLK or Nelson Mandela and attempts to free the prawns of segregation for the greater good. Even reject Chris' offer to turn him back into a human.

[@dannybonsai7102]

spot on. this explains so much.

[@a.r.h9919]

Maybe they are a servant or slave race created by a bigger one and it would make sense as this would be more like manual workers or engineers, there could be different alien races mutated and distorted by similar fluids into other uses like warfare, etc like a slave cabal of alien races

[@ascott462]

2:05 “is this ship safe?” , “well i was thinking more about other ones”, “The ones that are safe?” , “yeah the ones where the front doesn’t fall off”

[@Shoxic666]

d-did you just condemn the concept of allegory? ...what?

[@romantisanon4647]

Humans first! Those Xenos should have been happy that humans were so merciful to let them stay. At the first sign of conflict, the humans should have just barbecued the shrimp.

[@blugaledoh2669]

Are they delicious?

[@killian9314]

@@blugaledoh2669 the south african guy ate them, so i figure, no

[@legitnessdaneil9303]

And hunger for power

[@davidtrontelj3620]

Nahahahahahaha lmaooo thankyou mate such a nice comment laughed so much:) thanks

[@scaf5363]

You literally prove the point of the movie lmfao

[@polishstalinist3835]

They were good because they were humans. Enough said.

[@Reactionary_Harkonnen]

I know a man when I saw the movie I was like f**k those Xenos. We don't need Aliens here living with us.

[@crimzonrayz3274]

johan alejandro yeah tell em i agree with you

[@HeronKij]

I think you missed the part where humans were responsible for the majority of altercations between Prawns and Humans in Joburg. It's also possible that this ship was a slave ship, and something happened to the crew operating the ship. This would explain why there were weapons aboard, as a means for the crew to protect themselves from a (probable) revolt from their slaves. Hell, that may have even happened. Also, you seem to be mistaking "Humane" with "Practical". It wasn't humane to relocate the Prawns, it was practical. It wasn't humane to uproot them yet again using illegal and militaristic methods, it was practical. I also noticed you specifically included clips of Prawns behaving animalistically. Not one clip of Christopher Johnson or his partner, or the clip of humans eating Prawns. Or the clips of the local news using propaganda to dehumanize prawns. Which, again, Prawn is derogatory. It does imply a bottom feeder. They also look like Crabs or Lobsters, why not call them that? Or just Aliens? Xenos? Anything except a bottom feeder?

[@puckmanstudios2172]

because its a running theme in this channel that this guy hates aliens so..

[@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947]

@@puckmanstudios2172 based fuck aliens

[@nutyyyy]

Did you miss the part where Prawns mug and murder people and derail trains and use their weapons indiscriminately.

[@marleyex2695]

Exactly!! Thank you!! It's cold-hearted, closed minded people like this that will finish off the human race with that type of mindset.

[@benzelwasington4059]

@@nutyyyy Ohh right as if humans eating Than is better ?

[@Cheesepuff8]

Making a film about aliens inspired by how some people treat migrants and stuff isn't offensive, it's not making light of the situation or making fun of it, it's realistic, and if they created the the film about humans instead of aliens then it wouldn't be the film they wanted to make Surely making a metaphor based on something horrible isn't offensive unless the metaphor was offensive which this wasn't, and the film wasn't necessarily a metaphor, it was trying a different approach to an alien film, but also if it was a metaphor then it's an interesting way to teach people about real life stuff who previously wouldn't care about that and wouldn't watch a film about that

[@alejandrobustos693]

Next episode:why Palpatine was really the good guy all along.

[@barrybend7189]

Please do a best mech based armies in sci-fi. My suggestions are the UN Spacey from SDF Macross and the Clans from Battletech.

[@tomtheconqerur]

Earth federation and Principality of Zeon from gundam

[@alexhong7989]

Generation Films: Humanity's Greatest Defender. We all salute you.

[@3217491]

7:30 hahaha, the dudes entire physiology is changing and you're like, well blood sample tells the same as an autopsy. Sure that's why we perform autopsies so often. If only those doctors knew blood samples were so effective.

[@husar1202]

I think creating district 9 so close to city was stupid idea.

[@Holtkid13]

I feel like aliens coming to earth would have been a way bigger deal

[@connorgolden4]

To be fair the film takes place 30 years after they arrived. So by that point it’s...normal...or as normal as it can be.

[@UpToSpeedOnJaguar]

You'd be pretty annoyed by them too after you realize the aliens are just space wasters, unproductive, and so aggressive it borders on psychotic.

[@kelvinilla]

I thought it was a hard argument to make, that humans were good in the film. That's why I clicked on the video in the first place. Tough job, valiant attempt. "Needless to say" the allegory of the film effectively depicts xenophobia even in the counterarguments made in this video. There's a lot of I don't understand them, so I'll just assume based on what I know from Earth species, ignoring the fact that the prawns are obviously of higher intelligence : It's okay to destroy prawn spawn because egg-laying species generally don't mind losing them. They must be drone classes because they seem animalistic and are, thus, expendable. What? This assigning of traits is classic xenophobia. There's also the part where the film shows weapon testing against a prawn that has their hands up. You can't be more "extremely humane" than that.

[@nstorm2415]

one thing i didnt like about the movie was also the fact that they didnt try to teach the aliens how to communicate or at least capture some baby prawns and try to teach them, even if they werent capable of speaking human language they would have undestood it and maybe they would have learned to communicate with writing.

[@chinuaphinn-archer7186]

Bro thank you I was literally thinking I must have watched the film with 1 eye and ear closed. How are the humans good? i'm pretty sure the Aliens turning to gangs and violence was in response to being treated unequally/species discrimination, just like how human gangs started soo yeah

[@vatanak8146]

because we support our own species as a matter of evolutionary selection

[@BuetifullPersun]

All prawns must be fried.

[@thesneakystrangler9002]

Nick Serrano but they do talk to eachother, it’s clear at some point something like this happened as both species understand eachother.

[@MrDDiRusso]

District 9 reminded me of ALIEN NATION, a similar premise of extra terrestrial worker class beings crash landing in San Francisco and unsuccessfully trying to assimilate into human society. Alien Nation was also a short run TV series. Maybe Generation Films could review this classic movie and TV spinoff as well.

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

Yeah what happened in the film was not pleasant but better then what we could have done.

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Sometimes, I wonder why we haven't just done what the Imperium of Man would have done to them

[@vanjek9148]

When I was a kid, I was a bit of afraid of "good" aliens in movies and now I see why

[@michaelthake2306]

I find that there are a lot of ethical and moral double standards in your review which completely ignore the entire underlining argument of this film. The film gives us a "complete" picture of the events surrounding the arrival and management of this alien species by humans. Importantly, its documentary-style carries the undelining message that: when we objectify, and are indifferent towards, the conditions of these beings, it leads them to being mistreated and exploited. The first eviction scenes are a case in point. As the MNU goes from shack to shack, they make fun of the squalid conditions, glorify their new camps as more "safe", and at the same time, use certain language to "normalise" abhorrent living conditions or MNU actions against the aliens (that may lead to their death or injury) in order to desensitise the public and create a narrative that this is "normal". Your view that we are "saving" the aliens is a complete fallacy, because the whole concept of this movie is to criticise humanity and its past, by allowing us to openly see and be shocked by the raw happenings and activities of the MNU and the disinterest of the general public. It's like we are in the position of an investigative journalist. It seeks to create a different perspective and allow us to reflect on our position in society and how other minority groups are being exploited yesterday and today.

[@miguellemir242]

Except we cant extrapolate human emphathy to being that A) are not Human B) We are not in any obligation to assist, given the fact they showed up in our front door with a huge ass ship and weapons of war and C) Iin spite of all that, we did save the prawns.

[@BATHEMEINYOURGLORY7]

The director grew up in south africa. He experienced the struggles. He knows the struggle and found an intelligent way to bring light to the situation. This isn't offensive. This movie is here to show us how inhumane we can be. This movie didn't mean any harm and set out with a positive goal and From my point of view i can confirm it worked. I understood the message and did my research on the history. This movie is a great way of letting us look at our own behavior from the outside.

[@phillip5552]

He didn't even mention any of the experiments being done on the Prawns that caused Christopher to say he needed to rush home. He's gotta just be playing devils advocate because no one who watched this movie can say the humans were good or that humane

[@mechanomics2649]

Yet a disturbing about of people are saying that here in the comments. It's mind boggling.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

@@mechanomics2649 You know,humans also has a big flaw of reality-fiction confusion:Being crazy-ass in fiction,when turned real become frozen.

[@347Jimmy]

It's pretty hard to gloss over the vivisection lab, so he just skipped it

[@7th_CAV_Trooper]

I always root for the humans. The aliens in District 9 are obviously lazy and dirty.

[@highlander918]

What really peaked my imagination in this movie, was the fact that the mothership was the equivalent of a cargo vessel filled with refugees. Imagine a organized prawn warship, or a civilized negotiation ship. There’s so much to the prawn left unknown, and that’s what makes them so intriguing.

[@bottasheimfe5750]

For the situation, yes, I agree that the humans took the most ethical course possible. If there was a better way to go about it, I would prefer that, but that wasn't the case. Now I'm going to say now that you tend to have a more human-centric mindset, one I don't necessarily agree with (I am of the opinion that not all aliens will be too alien to understand and get along with), but in this instance I have to agree due to the fact that the prawns were indeed too different to deal with in a much more friendly manner.

[@godemperorofmankind4186]

shut up xeno sympathizer! you have no place here

[@godemperorofmankind4186]

DEATH TO THE XENOS

[@Darth_Nycta_13]

I agree with you tbh it was the best of a bad situation.

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

God Emperor of Mankind imposter

[@crimzonrayz3274]

Bottas Heimfe oh fuck off there was nothing ethical how they treated them at all even vickus when he is part becoming how ethical did they treat him

[@rodjacksonx]

No. The MNU decision to kill and dissect the main character was evil. Full stop.

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

Nah, it was justified.

[@jamestown8398]

That's the deontological approach; the ends never justify the means. I agree on this basis as well, but I think the distinction he was making was that the MNU wasn't just being sadistic in that instance.

[@guikoi3101]

@@jamestown8398 Basically: There was a very good reason why they were doing it, but they shouldn't have done it.

[@M0raes1]

@@guikoi3101 what was the good reason or justification?? trade weapons to cause more war among humans themselves? you are disgusting humanity is disappointing thank goodness you idiots are the minority of the minority complete idiots

[@M0raes1]

@@bigbluebuttonman1137 what was the good reason or justification?? trade weapons to cause more war among humans themselves? you are disgusting humanity is disappointing thank goodness you idiots are the minority of the minority complete idiots

[@whatever9448]

My ancestors killed the first prawn invader filth to set foot on Earth, then we used your technology against you to expand outwards into the infinite universe. Long live the emperor, long live the Terran empire!

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

Ecclesiastical bastard You do not follow what i declared Listen to papa here

[@drfeelgood94]

Long Live the Empire Hail Mother Terra

[@raffaelspitzer2459]

Letting a species, that you cannot communicate with, roam free, especially if it is unknown... Is incredibly stupid. The right place would have been an internment camp, with tight controls at very least.

[@theidiotwhosnotstupid5424]

The only good bug is a dead bug -Starship Troopers

[@cw2002]

MNU acted extremely humanly. Remember wheb they brought a live prawn in to be a target when testing the alien weapons... so humane. Remember all those dead prawns they were dissecting and testing on... so humane.

[@anakay1184]

I liked the humane way the eggs popped like pop corn

[@sjk7467]

I liked the humane way they tried to trick them into losing their homes with cat food.

[@dorittossenpai2268]

Fetch the flamer brother, yes the heavy flamer.

[@rangulfgimfang8322]

They shall be cleansed by the holy fire...... FOR RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER!!!

[@danieljames6138]

Some fair points. But the claim that they must be a different lesser sub species because they aren't shown the intellect to make powerful weapons is extremely racially charged. Some humans have made nukes and assault rifles. You ask most humans to make those? they can't. The fact the stranded and starved people who were stuck like that for at least 3 months with no equipment can't reproduce what presumably home planet scientists made doesn't make them "worker class drones". Hell one of them even is a scientist and is planning how to fix the entire super advanced ship by himself. I think the point you missed is that the prawns are obviously genetically different but are socially just as capable as humans. Ship a bunch of humans to a planet of mouse people, have some thing go wrong. Same situation, that's the social message of the movie that said I'm not arguing against the rest of the videos ideas

[@JustinTK416]

Pian Really that’s not even as racially charged as it is just kinda wrong. I mean, I’m white, educated, and could probably field strip a rifle or pistol even if I wasn’t wholly familiar with it (like with much difficulty, but you know...), but you ask me to build one... more so, build one from basically scratch while surviving as a refugee, haha yeah, I might, *might* be able to do that eventually. Key word: EVENTUALLY. Oh, and also making ammo would be even more of a struggle because I’d have to make gunpowder and I ain’t even got a clue on how to do that. (phosphorus is an ingredient if I remember right, but that’s the extent of my chemical understanding of it) I think one would be better off making a crossbow or something. Less moving parts, far more easily craftable ammunition, and easier to maintain. But anyway, I kinda derailed there, but I am agreeing with you overall. Modern weaponry alone is very intricate, so I can only imagine how many leagues more so an energy weapon would be. It’s not the kinda thing that can be built from slapping metal scraps together, and it takes specialized knowledge to be able to do it well WITH essential resources available.

[@Jarnauga]

@@boiiboii6310 If they planned coming to earth, sure. But that is not the case, or at least, if it was, then a lot went wrong. Because, if they had a plan to come there, they would have come, and then done something, like try to establish contact, communicate, or if their intention was war, then attack. If its just scouts, than at least they would do some sort of scouting and analyzing. But from what we see, it really does look like they are refugees, or a stranded ship that had a malfunction. Something of that sort. But there is really nothing to implicate any other plan than seeking refuge from something, or no plan at all, just bad luck they stranded on earth.

[@kermitsbodyguard1763]

Race is a way to define humans into classes. A statement about aliens can’t be racially charged. I think you mean xenophobic.

[@dustinshadle732]

THANK YOU!!! I had the same argument with several people and said that what was on display was far more than some sort of apartheid. It wasnt even properly portrayed! the people, the humans were pretty generous considering how things were playing out.

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Vivisecting and dissecting alien visitors, using them as test subjects, and forcing them to stay in slums while preventing them to leave the planet is generous? I'd hate to think what you think is unreasonable.

[@actualmadscientist]

"We can't get the prawn technology to work for us." Commander, welcome to the newly reactivated X-Com project.

[@DrunkenRaging]

This didn't explain why the humans were "good". It was just a short summary of the movie's plot.

[@s7robin105]

His reasoning boils down to “we had to do what we did in the movie because they were aliens”

[@ciyoduhkriter]

@@s7robin105 a necessary evil is still evil

[@Eidlones]

"Generally species that lay eggs and don't carry their young like mammals do, have less of an emotional attachment to their young" In the movie when you see an actual alien child with their parent, the parent is incredibly protective of him. When threatened to take his child away from him, Christopher, who had been calm, collected, and reasonable with them, has an emotional outburst. You seem to be ignoring the stuff that doesn't align with "the humans were right". Not to mention your dismissal of humane in the face of practicality. Which contradicts your claim that using metaphor is offensive to actual refugees and people that actually suffered.

[@TrueGamer22887]

Bruh that’s the whole bit of this channel lmao. He takes the pro human side, like how he always sides with the empire in Star Wars videos, he calls the movie a documentary

[@Eidlones]

@@TrueGamer22887 You act like I'm a regular to his channel. This video was recommended to me by the algorithm, and I decided not to watch any of his other vids.

[@TrueGamer22887]

@@Eidlones you didn’t take a hint that is was a hint when he said “when we watch documentaries” acting like it’s a real documentary?

[@Eidlones]

@@TrueGamer22887 Since it's presented as a documentary in the film, I assumed he was treating it like a "real" documentary in that it had a message to convey, and he was looking at the unintended message Blomkamp put into it by not thinking through the process well enough.

[@TrueGamer22887]

@@Eidlones no, it’s a very obvious bit that went over your head

[@JShu98]

They're called "human rights" for a reason.

[@GuillRickard]

They're called human rights because we're too selfish to give a damn about other sentient beings.

[@ryankelley5160]

@@GuillRickard The only comfort I have in the idea of a meteor one day crashing into earth and ending all life, is the knowledge that pussies like you will have died as well.

[@vatanak8146]

@@GuillRickard why should we share rights with being that probably share nothing with us on the basis of DNA and evolution

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

Guillaume Ricard Why should we care about other sentient beings? Humanity first.

[@AstraVex]

Next Time: Why Jaws wasn't the enemy and was a force for good for overpopulated beaches.

[@j.r.millstone]

District 9 could easily be renamed Borat Meets the Aliens.

[@extremosaur]

Never trust aliens. Remember the episode of the Twilight Zone; To Serve Man.

[@giorgichachua11010]

Minimum they had to relocate aliens more controlled place. That would save a lot of humans from death and then study their technology.

[@heyguy2367]

TAKE NO PRISONER'S FOR THE EMPEROR AAAARRRRRRRRHHHHHHHH!

[@jozopako]

Then how would emperor live?

[@LostAnFound]

District 9 has to be one of the funniest dark comedies I’ve ever seen. With promises of a return at the end of the film, I was really hoping there would be a sequel.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

district 10 has been confirmed

[@LostAnFound]

@@WallNutBreaker524 I hope you’re serious

[@kiwi_the_kiwikiwi6366]

Top ten reasons we can't Clap alien cheeks 1 They are the clappers we were supposed to have our cheeks clapped

[@stanleylee3329]

“Why the humans are the good guys in every single human/alien interaction, no matter what”

[@antiform47]

@@zechariahbryan1568 It may be a practical choice to not trust the "other" and choose war(although if this were real life and we decided to attack an alien civilization advanced enough to travel here, we most certaintly would be whiped out due to their incomprehensibly superior technology) It doesnt mean we have to consider ourselves the "good guys" we can recognize that we are being selfish and attempting to sacrifice another species without knowing if they are hostile or not, in order to increase our own chances of survival. At the end of the day were looking out for ourselves and thats reasonable, but no need to pretend its a saintly act

[@vatanak8146]

because we are evolutionary wired to support our own group over it

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

@@vatanak8146 WRONG,it is because the genes haywire a lot of times.

[@noangles1564]

do you think the black liquid is bio weapon as well as fuel source? Maybe the prawn are repurpose species to act as slave drones. That ship, and technology might not even be their's, but some sort of Master species

[@MB-xo2lx]

It's just a lazy writing. A useful plot twist to make the things going. But let's suppose it is a some kind of utility for terraforming the alien planets and organisms, spreading like a chemical weapon or a virus (something like the black goo from "Prometheus").

[@GenerationFilms]

That’s kind of what that one professor was saying.

[@TheAngelobarker]

Yeah and the prawns rebelled like amistad. The weapons were from the Masters. The slaves didn't understand the ship. Maybe thats why some are so stupid. They were like apes pre transition.

[@SomberYeti]

What if they were different form of aliens and then got transformed by the battery turning them into dumber aliens on the way?

[@DavidSternburgYt]

Why did you show a video of twickenham, uk, when referancing johanasburg? 2:38

[@ryanlaurie8733]

There's way too many red flags related to the prawns for me to feel much sympathy here.

[@TheAngelobarker]

The prawns were totally client species that were conquered and tansformed into prawn drones. I think he ship was a slave ship where the slaves rose up like amistad Humans should have recognized that.

[@karelwolf998]

whats the movie on 0:18 ?

[@dutchq3835]

the war of people running with flags

[@karelwolf998]

@Q Dutch @The Second Reich thank you for nothing

[@beastmastergaming8039]

What if the Covenant met the Imperium. Who has more Heracy? This is no death battle We know the Covenant will get stomped by the emperor boot

[@Reactionary_Harkonnen]

Big time

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

As the literal emperor i could guarantee we would fail

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

And i don’t wear boots anymore

[@nutyyyy]

Well the covenant occupy a small part of space in the Orion arm near earth. Whereas the Imperium of man has occupied large sections of the entire galaxy for over 10,000 years so it's not much of a contest. The Covenant would be a major threat on a local level but would be dealt with once the imperium recognised the threat and mustered sufficient forces. If anything the Imperium is like a human version of the covenant on space steroids.

[@alphariusfuze8089]

*And yeah, those xenoms might bring their got damn galactic war to us*

[@alrives]

I really enjoy and appreciate your balanced approach, subscribed for more

[@Nightshift10000]

Doesn’t matter that they weren’t human, are they sentient? Do they have human intelligence with human like personalities. It’s not about being human it’s about being sentient. Now that being said, if the Prawns weren’t welcome, why not just help them find the command module, & help them leave? It was pretty obvious that their technology wasn’t compatible for human use. Plus I don’t think it was an invasion or colonization of this planet that was intended by the prawns. The way the story was going it sounded more like the queen or upper caste of the ship & the soldiers all died en route to someplace, & maybe some of the more intelligent workers (as there were some with more intelligence than others, as demonstrated by Prawn Christopher Johnson) used the ships sensors to find a planet like their own & earth was the planet they found & that’s why the Prawns came here.

[@windmoonsoon4472]

we can't even do that for our own species you think wed do it for out siders with powerful technology

[@damonmealor9701]

Good or bad, I think it was the Humans' incompetence that resulted in much of the conflict & death in the film. For instance, regardless of whether or not they actually expected the saucer to be crewed &/or inhabited, they should have been prepared to set up a District 10-like facility before launching an expedition into it. There are few places worse than one of the most densely populated cities in the southern hemisphere, culturally scarred by nearly a century of racial tensions, to settle a million desperate non-humans

[@Corsair-Mandrake]

Anyone think prawn suit is best suit, (looks, military effectiveness is debatable)

[@keenumman1]

If it was piloted by a soldier trained to use it, it probably would of been more formitable, and not a paper pushing bureaucrat.

[@killian9314]

@@keenumman1 doubt it, it started getting damage by small arms after a while and got disabled by 50 cal rather quickly, also only uses visual type lock on system, so anything outside it's visual range gets the high ground, a trained gunner in a 50 cal mounted humvee can beat it with controlled bursts. And let's not even mentioned the ridiculous amount of guided launchers and missiles, it's a walking target, less armored than a tank, and it can flip

[@keenumman1]

@@killian9314 Good point, also it doesn't seem the alien weapons use any type of projectiles. Mostly direct energy type, so it wouldn't have a need for ballistic protection.

[@killian9314]

@@keenumman1 there is some kind of rocket pods that fires kinda like a machine gun that wickus fires on the moveand kills like 2 mercs with it, granted it doesn't seem any more powerful than anything else a regular soldier today could carry

[@keenumman1]

@@killian9314 Actually reminds me of a conversation i had with a friend about how mechs are actually terrible in practice. They are taller than a tank, less armor, and smaller guns, they need stable footing, and all that being put onto a single pilot would be overwhelming. The only way they would be in any way usefully is maybe as a fast lightly armored recon role, or a support role like a forklift...... a multi million dollar forklift if that.

[@tylerwilliams417]

Working with the Xenos is Heresy of the highest order! Purge the Alien in holy fire!!!

[@rangulfgimfang8322]

Agreed....... Ready the heavy flamers

[@SpanishDio]

*Humanity Fuck Yeah!*

[@nikosvakoulis4677]

i only have one question if the aliens are so powerful than us in strength and technology also having a animal like reactions why didn't they attack when they came to earth. Also, they don't seem threatening at first because they said that they don't want to fight and maybe they become aggressive because we treated them like shit

[@marziopallini9787]

In the next episode: Why the covenant in Halo might be Right.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

The only problem is Covenant is not human.And you know.......

[@johannesvonmalos7505]

What of those gangs who were eating the prawns?

[@arturs3696]

It's still food.

[@1111Tactical]

1:50 that basically nails the issue with the entirety of sociology. That's why there is the seemingly contradictory phrase, “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” - George Orwell

[@J.J.Jingleheimer_Schmidt3579]

Everytime I hear the word suffering I hear it in Jedi Grandmaster Yoda's voice. It's too funny 😂😂😂😂

[@viorp5267]

I love how his description of Prons actually fits problems with refugees quite well: > we don't know if they are not just comming to colonize and invade > they are more prone to violence > they are a huge strain on resources etc. etc. etc.

[@andrewkelleher2415]

That opening was smart, did the whole pre-emptive "we know this was supposed to be a social commentary film but" speech to keep the social justice warriors at bay... I also like how you said the metaphor using aliens or dogs degrades the fact that we have people really going through these problems so we dont have to use these other species as examples we just need to really look at ourselves

[@GenerationFilms]

Yea I mean you really shouldn’t be comparing black South Africans to prawn monsters. It just seems wrong

[@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122]

@@GenerationFilms Humanity first and kill all xenos.

[@vinsmokedsanji9962]

​@@GenerationFilms have you never heard of Maus by Art Spiegelman?

[@godemperorofmankind4186]

oh the Xenophobia here really makes me proud of you children, I Emperor of Mankind will grant you glory and greatness

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

Imposter

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

You cannot arrest your emperor tho

[@moneymrcrabs6814]

K but i was always n atheist and rilijin was banned cuz it dumb and evr since u guys did some relijon during my absence and sent u into some downward spiral cuz of it and now u just worship me like imma god but god no existence And my grammr is bad cuz im corpseman

[@lakecrab]

A Distict 9.1 movie would be cool to express the superior higher intellect Prawn idea.

[@jordanlancer1065]

everything described in this video is almost exactly like whats going on it Europe. new group arrives, people try be nice and invite them in, they become violent, bringing in weapons and starting gangs, eventually attacking the host population. no one sees the parallel?