Why the J.D. Vance pick was a mistake

"I predicted that the honeymoon for Vance may not last as long as people think," argues Jonah Goldberg on this week's Reason Roundtable.
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[@ricardodsavant2965]

Is there a libertarian running for President?

[@VeniVidiVid]

Chase Oliver is a (L)ibertarian. I disagree with a few of his stances, but he’s probably still 80% overlapping with this libertarian.

[@ricardodsavant2965]

@@VeniVidiVid -Thanks!

[@Kintepro]

RFK JR is more libertarian leaning.

[@Tukeen]

​@@KinteproThen Chase Oliver? How so?

[@michaellowe3665]

​@Kintepro if you mean doing weird stuff, then yes. RFK Jr is very libertarian. His bear cub story is pretty stupid, but at least he didn't dye himself blue with colloidal silver or forget the names of every other world leader. LP has had some real doozies in the past. I would still take any of them over Trump or Harris. Chase Oliver is by far the best candidate in this race.

[@stevehagen9804]

Libertarians going “you screwed up, let us tell you how to pick a candidate” is really funny.

[@user-hn7my8ow4s]

LOL 100% right. Libertarians ALWAYS think they know better than anyone else in the nation but somehow rarely win a contest.

[@smokeyrobin7881]

Why isn't tulsi gabbard being mentioned as an alternative vp pick?

[@erniebuchinski3614]

My guess is that she's purposely sitting this one out and is waiting until 2028 to run as President, in which case she'll get my vote. I'm not a member of either party, but Harris is clearly as dumb as dirty and Walz is a clown who seems to prioritise putting tampons in boys' rooms over actually addressing real issues.

[@matthewgilmore4307]

Goldberg gaslighting...sad

[@unappreciatedtreehouse821]

How does Vance expand the tent? Should have picked Tulsi just to see Harris's melt into a sputtering pile of gibberish.

[@kwakeham9167]

Ooh, a Dispatch/Reason crossover. I like it!

[@lori5946]

Kamala is a joke. I am voting Trump.

[@terrifictomm]

I understand now why you have so few views! You both remind me the old joke about, "The only difference between a libertarian and socialist is a libertarian. All drugs should be legal, and a socialist believes the government should pay for them."

[@erniebuchinski3614]

Another one I've heard is that a socialist wants everything you have, except your job.

[@cooperwesley1536]

If Jonah Goldberg (lol) thinks that picking Vance was a mistake, then I'm all in on Vance. In fact, he'll probably end up as a wildly successful two-term president one day.

[@MS-ig7ku]

Is not Neoconservativism farther removed from Libertarianism than "MAGA"? Why is Jonah here?

[@SirBlackReeds]

Vance would get wrecked by Tim Walz. Walz knows how to behave like a normal man. Vance curls up in the fetal position when dealing with Trump. He kissed his ass for an endorsement. Trump's own words.

[@Dannyboyo4]

@@SirBlackReeds Do you mean the man whose wife love the smell of burning car tires, that Tim Walz? Or do you mean the man who allow tampons to be place in 4th grade boys' restrooms as Governor of Minnesota? To quote Al Borland, "I don't think so, Tim."

[@christophercox8966]

@@SirBlackReedsReason is attracting socialists. I don’t know if that’s gratifying or alarming.

[@beebop333]

Nope

[@lanebrain55]

Trump is smarter that anyone on this panel

[@alexandervargas5304]

Jonah has been a knee-jerk never Trumper. Why is he on this podcast with this subject.

[@SirBlackReeds]

It's not his fault that Trump continues to prove every ounce of criticism levied at him as accurate.

[@matityaloran9157]

@@SirBlackReedsGood point

[@cornkiller534]

Highly agreed. Marko Rubio would also help with the growing Hispanics who vote Republican

[@judge831]

I'm a libertarian who is voting for Trump for the 2nd time

[@user-hn7my8ow4s]

LOL JD Vance was a GREAT choice. The GOP is trying to appeal to sane, rational Independent (unaffiliated) voters like the wife and me. Vance comes across as an intelligent, conservative, well-educated family man not a demagogue like Donald Trump or a nitwit like Harris or an outright liar like Walz. We were not going to vote for Trump until Vance was chosen.

[@aaronday7537]

Childless cat lady = Aleppo = Dean scream

[@acctsys]

Vivek should have been his pick.

[@boris8301]

He is worst.

[@unappreciatedtreehouse821]

Vivek is a buffoon.

[@kylemarkloff4451]

Im just not sure why being a member of the objectively dumbest branch of military makes you a good candidate for this position...

[@mike-hunt3527]

Elon wants that sweet sweet protectionism

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

So do alot of Americans

[@mike-hunt3527]

@chickenfishhybrid44 They must love higher prices.

[@TheGodfather101]

should have been gabbard or vivek.

[@thelastminuteman7513]

Wasn't sure about him at first, didn't know who he was but after hearing him speak he is a great choice. As far as "too much MAGA", any one Trump chooses will be vilified by the left as extrem ultra right MAGA. By that token you're saying rino Adam Kinsinger should be the VP. Lmfao

[@zuffin1864]

Vice pres means nothing

[@Spikesons]

Is there a Crypto-Neo-Reactionary in the running? They make great fudge.

[@woodchuck003]

Marco Rubio is a resident of Florida, Donald Trump is a resident of Florida. Anyone who claims that Marco Rubio would have been a better VP pick Vin JD Vance it's not as serious political thinker and it's not anyone you should take seriously.

[@matthewgilmore4307]

Jonah Goldberg LOL 😂

[@jerryshrader5723]

Would love to see rubio? Take us into ww3? Why not nikki haley?

[@beastybaiter7378]

JD Vance makes sense if your primary concern is gun owners not showing up to vote. Trump has a terrible record on the 2A and has been booed even at NRA events, Vance is a darling of that constituency and helps him on that front.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

"Terrible record". Compared to what? The bump stock ban, Admittedly quite bad and the rhetoric about "taking the guns first". What else?