Why The Jump Cut Is Here To Stay

Clickbait Title: You've Never Seen Barthes and Saussure Like THIS Before
I thought to myself "hey, this one's going to be a snap, you can just shoot it once and be done, you'll crank this out so fast!" and then I went and cooked up a whole bunch of intricate gags and cuts and segments that required multiple setups and/or doing things in a style that I've never done before, one of which involved driving to a riverside park half way across the city b/c I really dig the bridge. Miraculously I only suffered a couple bug bites while I was wandering around down there, and all of them have, at this point, stopped itching. The absolutely manic delivery of that bit at the end isn't entirely intentional, it's just what felt right.
Written and performed by Dan Olson
Twitter: / foldablehuman

[@Moscato_Moscato]

I want every KZbinr to replace jump cuts with star wipes

[@colormetwisted]

bring on the George Lucas age of youtube editing

[@djmips]

Why not re-edit some popular VSauce video with star wipes. ;-)

[@RyanMcKayOfficial]

Deebo Molina a

[@afrosymphony8207]

looool not if you aint saul goodman!

[@RatelHBadger]

Deebo Molina Homer: And star wipe to the next scene Lisa: Dad, there are other kinds of wipes, you don't have to only use the Star Wipe Homer: Aaaaaand StarWipe and we're done!

[@ContraPoints]

I came here to have my jump cuts validated and was not disappointed.

[@ContraPoints]

I should probably start recording every video twice though for the zoom in parts. That part was not validating but you are correct.

[@PugOfDoom]

CONTRA I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE YOU HERE BUT HEY I LOVE YOU PLEASE STAY AMAZING

[@CrudusViscus]

Nataaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

[@claramendezromero3571]

PugOfDoom Same here HAHAHA Omg.

[@GreatGodSajuuk]

I somehow knew I'd find your comment here.

[@Tuckerscreator]

Practical reasons for the jumpcut: A. Budget B. Framing C. Being attacked by ninjas during takes and cutting them all out so the vlog won't just be a series of thrilling fight scenes.

[@alex_roivas333]

yeah, thrilling fight scenes are lame! XD

[@Lukis687]

That doesn't negate the positive qualities of the jump cut. It seems to be a style that comes from people on YT making videos solely on their own with a stationary camera for ease of use, that's not inherently bad though and from it has come the popularity of a style which has many good aspects. Necessity is the mother of invention and all that jazz.

[@AbsurdAsparagus]

the ability to hide your difficulty with speaking for a long time without making mistakes.

[@PogoQmcmi]

Reminds me of the futuristic late 80's TV series Max Headroom. Commercials were reduced to something called "blipverts". It was a method of cramming hundreds of micro-second ads into a 30-second block. The viewer's brain would subliminally absorb the uber-short commercials, but their brain activity would spike through the roof until, in one case, a viewer's head literally (and yes, I mean LITERALLY) exploded. The first episode dealt with the network brass's attempts to cover up the fact that their "innovative" form of advertising (from which of course they were making a mint) managed to splatter someone's brain matter all over the wall. Now here we are, attempting to stimulate already overactive brains for profit. Sometimes science fiction can be eerily telling.

[@faolan1686]

But leave one fight in for the ending.

[@TheGreatWar]

We made the conscious choice to not have jump cuts in our main formats to underline the weight of the topic we are discussing. However, in our format "Out Of The Trenches" which is about the interaction with the community and the familiarity, we use jump cuts. (Though that was also a production pragmatic choice in parts because it saves resources in editing and for third party rights).

[@FoldingIdeas]

It was definitely the right choice for The Great War, the formality serves the subject well. You're all doing a fantastic job, by the way. I keep going back to re-watch the episode on service animals and choke up every time.

[@TheGreatWar]

It's interesting, that's the episode most people write in that it moves them this much. Glad you like the show, you are doing a good job here too. Keep it up.

[@joshuamackey3040]

@@TheGreatWar I did NOT expect to see the Great War team here!

[@ungulatemanalpha]

jump cuts: the paragraph break of the visual medium

[@AmaranthOriginal]

Paragraphs are for people who can't write!

[@paxcallow]

mmmm, i love my novels in one big chunk without breaks, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@AmaranthOriginal]

I was just having fun with the way people tear apart editing techniques by doing it to the given example.

[@AcolytesOfHorror]

wow this is actually an amazing comparison

[@jjfjeff]

Paragraphs incorporate transition. So no not a good anaology

[@rensawyer5623]

As someone that used to get made fun of for “talking with their hands” I get weirdly happy seeing him use his hands almost the whole time! I think hand movements while talking give a VISUAL beat to clarify where he wants to emphasize. I think it goes perfectly along with his point of reading lips.

[@gendergoo1312]

I don't mind it at all. I just think I, like probably most, hate it when it's done ad nauseum in quick succession for one or two words at a time. When people stitch together fragments to just form a sentence, we can all agree that's just painfully bad.

[@GTV-Japan]

I was a Tv director in 2005 the same year KZbin started. And I swear if a jump cut ever made it on air, you were seriously reprimanded and if you did it again, fired!

[@chytstorm]

I believe a public flogging would sometimes fall in between those events.

[@michaelg3074]

Same here.

[@nuzzbentley1869]

tfw Hank Green replies in the comments and ya gotta make a second vid ;)

[@vlogbrothers]

If I do it again will he keep making new videos more regularly? Because I love it.

[@Drilling4mana]

It's like a lightning rod in here.

[@architbagul120]

Well that happened

[@jk7832]

holy cow he did it again

[@johndavenport2847]

yes please

[@collin6691]

I'm enjoying the more frequent uploads by folding ideas

[@lacroixboix]

Collin Horn Yea, I get disappointed when it's just a stream bc these scripted vids are so solid

[@marksmod]

peanuts

[@fcarvajalbrown]

Collin Horn *snaps fingers* yes

[@IAmBrownThunderOfficial]

"Frequent"

[@hewhoscratchedthechaiselon6757]

My man!

[@WyattAugustyniak]

The way you light, edit, and color-correct(?) videos is subtly unique and stylish in comparison to other KZbinrs. Can you explain how you established your style of presentation, and perhaps why/if establishing a unique visual style is important?

[@DeusAequus]

He explained a lot of it in a big twitter thread a while back while he was attending some presentation about good techniques during vidcon. I would look it up but I think a key one is he stands a decent distance away from the wall backdrop. anyways look up his twitter and go back a few weeks.

[@WyattAugustyniak]

Thanks!

[@FoldingIdeas]

I don't know if I have a great and satisfying answer to that first question because I feel like I'm just barely reaching a point where my style is "established." I've definitely settled a few things vis a vis the overall structure and the means of presentation, but visually things have always been in flux, changing regularly with my own personal interests at the time. For a while it was all cloth backdrops, then it was the flat wall with mixed lighting, and now it's all about playing with grading and LUTs. KZbin, for me, started in part as a way to experiment with style and technique in a way that I can't with my regular paying production work. I'll no doubt be making more and more tweaks as time goes on.

[@WyattAugustyniak]

Folding Ideas First, thanks for taking the time to respond! I understand what you mean when you say you have yet to fully establish a specific visual style, but I can see the building blocks coming together (though they are difficult to pin down). I think your use of soft colors, the frequency with which you vary your position in the frame (on the "stage" as you describe it in this video), and the crisp, clear visual and audio quality of your videos eases me in (with the soft color palette), keeps me engaged (with the varying positions at which you stand), and lends credibility to your opinions (since the visual and audio quality are clearly a product of experienced filmmaking). Sorry for the run-on sentence. In summary, your videos (to me at least) ride a line between humble (even relatable) amateur videography and highly- prepared "professional" video, reaping the benefits of both. Keep up the great work! Whether you continue to hone in on a single style, or run wild with experimentation (for which, as you said, KZbin is a great testing ground), I will be watching. One last thing... Do you mind sharing the work you do outside of KZbin? Thanks again!

[@FoldingIdeas]

The work I do outside of KZbin falls into four categories: really cool stuff I can't talk about because of NDAs, really cool stuff (like indie films) I talk about all the time on Twitter, really boring corporate stuff that I occasionally post on Twitter, and really boring stuff I can't talk about because of NDAs. For years the bulk of my work off-KZbin has been in that last category. Not only is it stuff I can't share, because it'll be things like vendor training for proprietary technology, but you'd find it absurdly boring. For example one that I can talk about was a 20 minute presentation on the heavy load corridor weight limit and a pilot project to move a three stage, 24 axle load (as opposed to a regular two stage 12 axle load) from Calgary to Fort McMurray which was successful opening the way for future projects examining the structural soundness of the corridor potentially allowing for the total weight limit for the corridor to be raised while leaving the weight-per-tire limit the same. Thrilling, I know.

[@YOUCANTKILLTHEPOPE]

Question, will you ever be going back to the longer hairstyle you sported in the Suicide Squad video? I probably speak for a lot of people when I say it was the first video of yours I saw, and the longer, messier hair definitely sells the whole "fuck this shit" mindset more. Then again, I don't think I've seen a video where you're more "fuck this shit" than that one.

[@BonnibelLecter]

The Pope "Fuck this shit" is the most useful defense method against that movie, tbf.

[@Malidictus]

Or the longer beard. I was personally a fan of that look, as well.

[@01Sunshine234]

yes

[@algi1]

Hobo Dan was cool, but I think that style only works if he's presentable in most of his videos.

[@francescabelle7497]

I liked his look in that video, too.

[@FrankFloresRGVZGM]

At one point I thought you said "junk cut". I think that would be a good name for the edits in Suicide Squad.

[@threebirdsinatrenchcoat]

Alternative suggestion: junk cuts are quick and useless uses of jump cuts, to the point where the sentences are being cropped and the whole thing becomes an eyesore

[@firewordsparkler]

The ease of learning jump cuts is part of what makes youtube so accessible to so many creators. Since it's one of the basic style elements of a youtube video and so simple to do, fans feel like they can create their own content because creators appear more DIY. It's one of the reasons why I feel like I can never be a filmmaker, but I decided to make youtube videos in back in high school.

[@AnthonyNelsonPhoto]

As somebody who's been a user of the internet pre-KZbin and using KZbin basically since its inception, I've grown very used to the snappy editing style that the jump cut offers creators. I enjoy the shorter video play time because it forces creators to become creative. As with most creative restrictions I feel like the shorter run length would force creators to make decisions that could improve the quality of their work. This means making sure there is no dead time in the videos or choosing scenes for videos that are more relevant to the overall narrative. also, man, I miss the huge animation presence that KZbin used to have. Everything from stop motion brick films to painstakingly hand drawn animations. Yes, most of the examples you could probably find weren't great, but the creativity of a lot of early KZbin films was so cool.

[@Tuckerscreator]

As someone who used to do a lot of stop-motion (right there in my profile pic), I miss it too. Largely it's because stop-motion and hand drawn animation take a really long time but YT doesn't pay creators as much as it used to per ad. That said, I think there's still a sizable animation niche, via SFM computer animation, but the drawback is that there's rarely original properties filmed through it because nearly all the models are video game character scans.

[@louisalectube]

Theodd1sout and JadenAnimations have blown up in the past year or 2 alone. They're cartooners. Theodd1sout is basically responsible for a mini-explosion of well-meaning copycats.

[@jaysea5939]

As I understand it, KZbin has started to prioritize longer and more frequent uploads, which cuts out a lot of the animation channels.

[@krillissue]

is there another outlet where these animation channels are going to, then?

[@boiledelephant]

Does that very early 'Lion King' sketch narration count? Because that's still the best thing on youtube.

[@50Acres]

Love your videos! They have taken my editing game all the way from "horrible" to "horrible but self aware"!

[@TheJaredtheJaredlong]

Since you bring it, you really do have a noticeably crisp quality to your productions. I've always appreciated that you've strived for the elegance of being simple: not because it's easy, but because it is good. Keep doing what you're doing, you deserve all the success you get.

[@starsINSPACE]

I love the term visual punctuation; whenever it is used it just makes me happy. :)

[@gauthiervieira9135]

Coming back to this, 6years later, in the background of a cooking session is really something. Your points are valid as ever. I'm a bit perplexed at how the general technical requirement of operating a small youtube has sky rocketed in the past years. Everyone is now supposed to have basically pro audio, pro lighting, prosumer cameras handling 10-bit log. People hide their jumpcuts by cutting away to 4K HDR Drone Broll and are expected to grade like pros, youtube has become an entire industry with companies solely working for the companies working the guys who operate some big channels. It's... Something. I don't know if I dislike this in specific, or just the general aspect of youtube nowadays, with an actually pretty high price entry, probably higher than ever.

[@fizzyinsanity]

the opening to this vid is maybe the only time ive heard your canadian accent. its SO strong in those first two lines

[@tiawilliams5690]

I was just wondering if he was Canadian.

[@edienandy]

Soary

[@icedragon769]

The "manic deliveray of that bit at the end" was extremely evocative of John Green's travel vlogs, good job :) I wonder what Tom Scott thinks of this, he complains about jump cuts all the time.

[@claytongrange2137]

You're not jump-cutting mid-sentence enough, LOL

[@JaySwanson]

I LOVE your insight and understanding of filmmaking as a whole. This is my first time commenting on one of your videos, but I really love listening to you go in depth on editing and storytelling in general. I also really enjoy being able to see you more than your robot counterpart (as awesome as it is) - whether that's because of the lip reading or not, it gets your personality across so much better. Thank you for all of the work you put in to your videos.

[@diego-dias]

I personally find the clarity drop in close-ups on youtube to be pretty funny, actually. To me it feels like part of the joke when a comedy youtuber does it, but I'm not sure the same can apply to non-comedy ones.

[@Alkimodon]

I may not always be aware of all the cinematic tricks you do but I do appreciate the extra effort.

[@turtle4llama]

Jump cuts are commas. Nothing flashy, but a powerhouse of visual grammar.

[@lindasiltakoski4900]

That tonal consistency across the field demonstration jump cuts though. I have no idea how much footage revision it must have taken, but I appreciate the extra effort, and I absolutely love this trend where you make the video itself a demonstration of the principles you're talking about. That's some clever editing and clever scripting right there. Absolutely delightful.

[@mozata6838]

Jesus christ those outdoor jump cuts were good

[@CookieCryptid]

And adding what he just said about filming at least twice to change things... Realizing how much effort and time it took to make this video, it amazes me.

[@ottolaakso1944]

Mozata Folding Ideas fans are apparently the most easily impressed people on Earth

[@k14pc]

Barbara Arce I like Folding Ideas, but this line of thinking makes me think that a lot of people just don't know how long the process is for many videos. Videos like the ones made by Kaptain Kristian for instance or even something like Game Theory take literally 100+ hours to produce.

[@mozata6838]

That's very true, but there's several different aspects of video making that require different kinds of work and the time you put into those aspects varies wildly. Stuff like Game Theory or any analysis channel rely]ies on extensive research which is where the bulk of that time goes. There's simple concepts like Dude Perfect that takes forever to make because the thing they're doing is just really difficult. Folding Ideas is probably less efficient than it could be, but since most of the videos have to do with the quality of filmmaking, it makes since that he would go the extra mile to make the actual video quality as superb as it can be. At the end of the day, it's just what the focus of the video/channel is and how good they are at their craft.

[@CookieCryptid]

I think most people get that it takes time to make a video, and that it varies a lot between the type of video as well. But that was not the point of my comment in particular, what I find interesting here is what others have said: that one, while consuming videos, barely notices these jumpcuts, and as I watched this video in particular, the more jumpcuts and comments he made, the more aware of the time and planning I became, and the more interesting this seemingly (from the outside) simple tool became more complex. And, in my opinion, this made it a very clear example for what the video itself was about.

[@Fionor01]

As news video editor I kind of have to hate jump-cuts. In my job it's major mistake - unless it's used to deliver special message (and usually that's something we try to avoid outside stand-ups), bust when I'm watching vlogs (of any kind) it doesn't boother me. I recognize its value for narrative purposes and fully understand need of it in spite of delivering video faster (as you said in previous video), So, basically, thank you for doing this. As a professional in specific branch of video editing I'm always happy to learn something new from outside of my reach.

[@hamonteiro]

Listening to people talk about their passions is my favorite thing. I have little interest on editing and what not, but I can't stop binging on you. You're a great talker.

[@chicoarraes]

in the future its all gonna be jump cuts on vertical videos all the time.. and by future I mean next tuesday.

[@nishanoire]

I actually heard a defense of vertical video once....I won't repeat it here.

[@JesseFred]

Oh boy, you guys. HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU!

[@EricLS]

You referencing Zefrank et al made me realize why the jump cut never bothered me: I've always known it. Also, I am ADHD and non-sequitur nonsense funny video edits, utilizing democratized non-linear editing programs at the turn of the century was how I grew up, so it's all natural to me. Monologuing to the camera as a one person crew all but demands the jump cut.

[@sallygreggers1018]

Only recently got into your channel, the more I watch the more I love your videos. Hope you keep up the good work and jump cuts are in a weird way an important stylistic part of KZbin even if a KZbinr doesn't think twice using one.

[@ClarkKentsRockandRollRevue]

Thanks for validating my style at the end of your video. It means a lot that someone who espouses the merits of the jump cut will simultaneously advocated the single camera/continuous shot technique which is common to my reviews/interviews/music videos and live gig treatments. Rock on dude x

[@BeastOfTheEast07]

Really blown away by this one. Professorial and fun. All I could ever hope for from this site.

[@irene7802]

I really hope this weekly scripted video continues because I get so excited when a new video is uploaded

[@BelieveInUrself93]

I just want to say I think your process is absolutely worth it and valued by us. Also, fantastic video as always.

[@amieridley1150]

A massive thank you for the amount of time you must have spent balancing the audio on this!

[@SilverDragonJay]

I think the biggest problem with jump cuts is those cases where there's approximately 30 within a single minute of run time, not because the subject is moving or changing their location, but because they seemingly couldn't speak for a minute straight without making dozens of mistakes that needed to be edited out. I've seen some pretty egregious examples where the jump cut is used seemingly as a crutch because the speaker both didn't bother to think about what they wanted to say and didn't want to give the audience an authentic viewing experience. If you're making a video unscripted, with the intent of speaking off the top of your head or just rambling and seeing where your thoughts lead, cool, I like videos like that sometimes, there's no need to cut things out (unless you end up collecting your thoughts in silence for five minutes). Meanwhile, If you're doing a scripted video and you are making mistakes all over the place, maybe you should rehearse before actually recording, instead of splicing together all the 'successful' takes into a coherent video. Maybe you're somewhere in the middle, it's not scripted but you have talking points you want to hit. Cool, whatever works, but you should have some idea of what you want to speak about and should be able to avoid large tangents and tolerate small mistakes. And I'm not talking about channels that target younger audiences who might be using jump cuts to keep the video feeling energetic. That's valid, kids like a lot of activity and motion. I'm talking about videos where someone is sitting on their couch talking into the camera vlog style and is constantly jump cutting. That gets on my nerves like you wouldn't believe. I will admit, as someone who spends a lot of time on youtube, I do enjoy the use of jump cuts as presented here and in similar videos. They feel intentional, and thought out, and add to the video instead of detracting from it.

[@CamilaSmid]

I learn a lot from your videos, sir! Thank you for uploading such a great material, it makes me wanna improve my channel every day.

[@jamiepandaman]

I am someone who works in regional theatre, so I come to these kinds of channels because the content about the meaning/message/etc. of films relates to my work, and the content about the format of film still interests me, even if it is not strictly in my field. I watched your other two videos as you recommended, and I think out of ignorance I would've previously said jump cut refer to any straight cut, as you define them in the "Basic Cuts" video. Any way, I enjoy your stuff! Keep up the good work!

[@SpeedyXGunz]

Three weeks ago, looked up "cruft" on 'VidMe or Why Platforms Aren't Your Friends' and learned a new word. Today, pauses video at 5:12 and looks up "pedagogical." Pats self on back when spells it correctly the first time, by typing it out phonetically. Learns another new word, then unpauses the video.

[@YourMajesty143]

Andragogical is better suited as it means "teaching/learning for adults" as compared to pedagogical which is aimed at children.

[@johnclavis]

thank you for giving me so much to think about. I am slowly and painfully figuring out the details of a video series I want to do and you help me a lot.

[@joshuacaulfield]

Thank you for this video. Great explanations for a lay but interested viewer. Also thank you for the double effort and a high quality channel.

[@crazytacticsdave4017]

Thank you. I became aware of you via Den of Geek website and I’ve been enjoying going through the videos since. so I thought I just say what a nice, informative and fun channel this is and thanks :)

[@emctwoo]

I appreciate how moving around the frame shows how finely tuned the lighting is.

[@SeantommyE]

Stage left would be frame right!!!! AAAAAHHH

[@pinecone1113]

This is a very smart analysis of something that I've never really thought about before. Good job!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Genuinely love this video, thanks for making it!

[@eugenecallahan1698]

Ok, but I’ve watched about 500 videos using jump cuts, and this is the very first one I’ve seen use them intelligently!

[@matthewmcneany]

I find this fascinating and as a teacher I'm often thinking about how much of this I can transfer into classroom teaching. I need to go away and think about where I stand in my room for delivering different types content to students how they pick up on different visual cues and indeed if different groups of students can process different visual cues. I'm finding your videos on narrative and structure really useful in this regard. I guess if I had a question it would be how much of the audience interpretation of visual cues like these are learnt behaviour that I can't expect children to follow and how much of it is intuitive?

[@MrRed8top]

I've wanted this explanation for so long, thank you so much

[@mitchellapple9184]

Keep up the terrific work. Love the channel.

[@DJMaster7q]

another in depth and logical video. this is one of my favorite channels on youtube

[@StepBackHistory]

This is a really good video to watch as I make my first foray into live filmed footage.

[@rs-flamingo]

Oh wow the comparison to the stage was great! It makes so much sense.

[@ImJonnay]

I really dug this one. You do the "KZbin style" justice. I especially enjoyed the juxtaposition between the discussion of aesthetics against a pragmatic background, and the discussion of pragmatics against an aesthetic background. Deffo gonna rewatch this'un. Also, squee! Ze Frank reference.

[@noblebearaw]

I guess I'm curious if the jumpcut is an effective tool, where is that tool best applied? Is it somehting best relegated to volgs or could other video types or even platforms benefit from it's use?

[@unluckycloverfield4316]

I recommend looking for videos on the french new wave and how they used jump cuts

[@timetuner]

Off the top of my head I'd say that video essays like this make best use of it and vlogs get the most economy out of it. I figure news digest type videos run the most risk of overusing it to the point of becoming frantic.

[@UkuleleNinjaMan12]

Always love watching your videos!

[@TrevorVonRyan]

YES. Somewhat weekly videos please. Watching now.

[@conferencereport]

Your comments about using the screen as a stage put me in mind of John Jesuran's 'Chang in a Void Moon' project from the 1980's (revised in 2014). He reversed the stage/screen polarity, adopting techniques from film-making; close-ups, split-screen etc. for use in the staging and choreography of this live work. Also, thanks for this series. Really informative.

[@_BigRed_]

I don't mind jump cuts when watching VLogs. It actually somehow makes them more watchable for me.

[@mozata6838]

It ups the pace to better fit a video format. In a podcast or a real-life conversation we tend to be okay with longer pauses or digressions or mistakes etc. but for a video with a singular message it's better to just cut all the fat and get to the point. You could spin it to sound like that's just catering to people with short attention spans but it still makes for a tighter, more re-watchable video.

[@aachhu1112]

Mozata Succinctly making a point is never lazy; it's a learned skill that seperates good writers from great ones.

[@palpytine]

As a stage, it's fine. But when you get the likes of Peter McKinnon sat in the s'ame chair movi'ng just a couple of pi'xels to the side every so ofte'n it's the audiovisual eq'uivalent of sprinkling rand'om apostrophes in a written se'ntence - and actively harms comprehensibility for no gain on the part of the viewer

[@SavageBubblegum]

His final statement is delivered like a threat, I like it.

[@morgansearle3912]

The enunciation feels natural in the studio, but in the close-up vlog style, the clear mouth movements were stunningly Vsauce Michael.

[@fuzzytheduck6821]

I had no concept that jump cuts were some thing to be avoided before this video, or rather that they were viewed as such.

[@woulg]

Idk why but your type of perfectionism strikes me as having a uniquely Calgarian flavor... I can imagine you sitting at the roasterie or beano working on one of your scripts and that gives this extra layer to your videos that makes me like them even more than I already do. Thanks for another great video :)

[@theanxiouslegume9280]

I can't see anyone sitting in the roasterie for that long tbh. Not enough room, too much noise

[@woulg]

@@theanxiouslegume9280 back in the day there were some people that pretty much lived there. Did you ever meet that guy that made those insane sketchbooks with each page cut out in a different way to make crazy relief drawings? Pretty sure he did a lot of work on those there. There were quite a few other characters like that

[@theanxiouslegume9280]

​@@woulg No, I haven't. I've heard of a few regulars, but I got the impression that with the addition of all the newer cafes and restaurants in the area with better seating and a wider menu, the Roasterie had become more of an express place. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice place, but the acoustics in there are a bit off for working on stuff, imo. I guess a lot of Uni students find Higher Ground to be a comfy spot to work on stuff despite the lighting and arguably worse acoustics, but they do have a larger menu

[@woulg]

@@theanxiouslegume9280 yeah it's not really a "good" cafe hahah, it just has (had maybe?) a special vibe. Idk if I would say it's "nice" either actually haha, but it was definitely a special spot for me and many others growing up. I was back in Calgary recently and it didn't quite seem the same tho. But yeah I meant my initial comment more about the vibe than the practicality but I take your point

[@theanxiouslegume9280]

@@woulg It's been awhile since I'd been there, but as a black coffee drinker, I definitely appreciated the care they put into roasting (I heard they used to burn the beans though?). So I'm not knocking the coffee. I don't know ow recently you were in Calgary, but Covid or even the season could've affected the vibe. My partner says he seems more like a central library/Luke's kind of guy, I have no comment lol

[@chibikonatsu]

This was a fascinating watch: thank you!

[@CuriousInsanity413]

I don't understand why people wouldn't like jump cuts, I think they fit what most of the youtubers I watch are doing very well. I never really thought about it it or actively noticed it until I saw it mentioned as something people complain about sometimes. The point about it making the setting a stage rather than just a frame hit me as in that way of something that's always been known without realising it haha

[@mariannalovegood2418]

One thing I think the jump cut does very well, is a form of visual punctuation. By that, I mean that the jump cut, when involving someone doing a long speech to the viewer, takes the form of a period. It's a mental tickbox in the viewers head that the current subjects has ended, and we are going to the next one.

[@palpytine]

It is a form of visual punctuation. Which is exactly why it's so bad - because you'll often see it used mid-sentence or other places where strong punctuation just isn't called for. And that makes it obnoxiously jarring. To the point that I find some of the worst abusers (e.g. Peter McKinnon) to be unwatchable.

[@cursinsquirl]

Entire cut for a "Maybe *shrug*" A+

[@saika2887]

See, the clickbait title would've really got me on this one.

[@Ringringcodyphone2020]

It's not a shame you don't get more views. Your videos are amazing

[@connym.262]

To be honest, I know you need to make jumpcuts ever so often, but if some youtubers make several cuts in a single sentence, that's just annoying. Like having a dozend cuts in a fighting scene: you wanna concentrate one what's being said/done, but you can't cause they always move and have these blocks of words smashed together. Like man, just make a goddamn script before you turn on the camera. That being said, I really like you videos and the last part of this one was really cute :)

[@thesmokingdad4413]

I actually really liked this video. I thought that "KZbin style" jumpcuts were a product of the "s0 rAndum" era of the 2000s where jumpcuts were used for that effect but it's cool to hear the actual practical reasons for it.

[@alex_roivas333]

i agree about the jump cut being good when used as punctuation. but sometimes when it's used for jokes, it reminds of a laugh track, or a rimshot, or something that is telling you "this was a joke, this is funny, laugh please"

[@littlekolb]

Thanks for speaking into this. I can't believe it took me this long to find your video especially since I'm a long time subscriber. I'm an editor and this is something we talk about a lot. Jump Cuts have been, for a long time, considered a failed attempted to piece together a cohesive story. A failure to hide the actual process of stitching together film. However, the biggest flaw with film making and editing is that we really only have teaching in regards to feature film making. To learn editing theory you have to study editing theory in regards to feature films but what about editing a corporate promo video? Does montage theory have a place there? Yes and no but in regards to jump cuts, they will almost never have a place in a feature film except in rare occasions. They will always have a place in editing where stylistic choice is a major factor. i.e music videos and youtube videos. Everyone needs to understand that a Jump Cut is the same as every cut - There is a reason for making it. If you don't understand the psychological reasoning behind your edit decision a jump cut just becomes lazy editing. I love how you pointed out the use of frame and stage, such an eye opener for me. Keep making videos!

[@whatever3554]

I wish I could do Ze Frank style videos, because I feel like it left an empty spot in youtube that needs to be filled.

[@YourMajesty143]

Well no worries, he's back now 😊

[@clarcktumazar]

5 years later! Jump cat has been long gone sikeee its still HERE!

[@MrMJAWhite]

Very interesting and clearly explained. Captivating content. Thanks

[@inseason101]

How many jump cuts was there in this vid?

[@FoldingIdeas]

59

[@aknopf8173]

@@FoldingIdeas That's 10 off. We still love you though! #JustParasocialStuffYouKnow

[@RobertMilesAI]

I think the big reason multi-camera isn't practical for KZbin type content isn't the cost or the extra hardware so much as... you're staring right into the lens. If you're editing and you notice some problem that you want to hide with a cut, what are you going to do, cut to the second camera's shot of you delivering dialogue off into space? To cut to another camera you have to turn and look at that other camera, and you can only do that if you know the cut is coming, so you lose a lot of the practical reasons to cut.

[@Blabla130]

7:10 I was expecting a prompt to join Skill Share but then was like "wait this video is from 2017"

[@DavidBaruffi]

I thought you were gonna talk about it's use in films and television shows like "Traffic". But this was informative and fascinating too.

[@standincub]

So basically youtube style jump cuts were born from the 10 minute limit which caused content creators to remove as much dead space as possible so they could fit all their content in the time allowed. The viewers became used to this and now it is common place and for many viewers the preferred format despite the fact there is no time limit on videos now. That is super interesting! Not all jump cuts are created equal IMO. When it is a conscious choice by the editor to add a jump cut to emphasize a point of some kind it can add a lot to the video. But when there are jump cuts added in for no other reason than to add them in...it gets more annoying than anything else. The annoying jump cuts DO add a sense of momentum and energy. The monologue moves faster because the pauses are gone and the slight adjustments in position add a TINY bit of interest. But like any thing else, use them in moderation. When overused they are just distracting and make the monologue feel unnatural. A Logan Paul video was in my recommended list the other day so I checked it out and dear god, talk about distracting. The jump cuts drove me nuts. On top of the jump cuts there was an insane amount of zooming in and out. It's all so unnecessary seeing as that guy already talks incredibly fast and is really high energy. I couldn't get through his video.

[@moxeman]

I made software to automate jump cuts and love the way you write. If you checkout TimeBolt.io pls let me know. I'll subscribe and love to connect!

[@ferociousbiscuit]

So coincidentally I was watching another one of your videos and I noticed that every time you cut to a close up it looked like you scratched your next. It was at that point I realized you film everything twice.

[@Uriel238]

I always thought the jump cut was a pragmatic way of editing out goofs and tangents, which is fine if it creates a shorter, more evenly-edited piece. That a jump cut has artistic merit is sauce.

[@TheVGC]

Also film with a 4K camera and edited in a 1080p sequence so you can zoom in and out without losing any frame quality.

[@kranklg2s]

I hope the next video is "Basic Lighting" :P Seriously though - love the video! It's an extremely interesting subject.

[@Victor.-.E]

Lindybeige don't need no stinking jump cuts! He makes wonderful one take content, sometimes over an hour long, about historical events and the like. But I suspect he's madman...

[@thewolfin]

You can explain why as much as you want, but I will never agree.

[@withmygoodeyeclosed]

It drives me crazy, it's cool on occasion but some people do a cut after every freaking sentence.

[@PedroUngaretti]

Man... that was awesome.

[@Articulate99]

Always interesting, thanks.

[@binary_terror2]

I really don't mind a jump cut. And I really liked this video!

[@astercunningham6847]

Lest we forget it's humble origins of Ze Frank editing out the slight nostril flare that happens when he blinks

[@GrumpyMansREVIEWS]

Very informative video thanks

[@billyb6001]

I like the jump cut. The green Brothers got me onto it

[@Aleph_Null_Audio]

The "Ask A Ninja" series is basically an ode to jump cuts.

[@cottage-core_]

I havent finished the video yet but while I think that jump cuts tend to make a video more engaging they have also destroyed my attention span

[@driver3899]

Learning a lot from this channel, thank you. Would also really like to hear how long it took to both film and edit this not even 8 minute long video.

[@FoldingIdeas]

Around 10-15 hours to write (I don't keep track, and research often falls into a null zone), probably 3-4 hours to film, then six hours to edit.