Why The NAGA and Snakemen of Khuresh Could Be A DLC - Total War Warhammer 3

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The Great Book of Grudges

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2 жыл бұрын

The Snakemen and Naga of Khuresh are very requested for the Warhammer series. They have a mention in Warhammer 3 with a change to their spelling in a very GW way of their sill copyright crusade.
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Why The NAGA and Snakemen of Khuresh Could Be A DLC - Total War Warhammer 3
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@TheWildmanden
@TheWildmanden 2 жыл бұрын
Signs of GW making scummy corporate moves is easily the best proof of a future Khuresh faction that I have seen
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao pretty much
@kyleellis1825
@kyleellis1825 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of like them making the word unique to copywrite it. It makes it easier to know which fandom of Orks(for example) that I'm looking into. I hate the scummyness of trying to copywrite Dwarf/Space Marine.
@erikweltz8187
@erikweltz8187 2 жыл бұрын
The human slaves actually gives me an idea for a cool but grotesque faction mechanic the snake men would have. Feasting stance. When you’re deep in enemy territory or defending from attackers but your snakemen regiments are not replenishing fast enough, this stance can be invoked to have your snakemen regiments feast on any slave regiments in their army or fellow armies in reinforcement range. Effectively allowing you to utilize your human population as walking med kits and not just cheap expendable units on the front lines. And it would snowball by the ratio of snakes-to-humans in the army. 18 snakemen feeding off just 1 human regiment will deplete the human regiment in but 1 turn and give little back to all of those regiments but 18 human regiments feeding 1 snakemen regiment will have them replenished in a single turn with little damage done to the humans.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 2 жыл бұрын
GW is Disney now. No way this flies.
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 2 жыл бұрын
@@DzinkyDzink what ? The oggers feast on humans
@erikweltz8187
@erikweltz8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 there’s also options for Greenskin’s and Lizardmen to feast on captives after a battle.
@jaredcullum117
@jaredcullum117 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a very interesting mechanic in some form or another - and quite thematic actually.
@BatalionHunter
@BatalionHunter 2 жыл бұрын
sounds more ogre kingdoms-ey since the ogres eat ... near everything
@abmong
@abmong 2 жыл бұрын
As a SE Asian, Khuresh are my spiritual WH race. Yes I have no problem being depicted as evil snake people, in fact I love it.
@co-bruh1423
@co-bruh1423 2 жыл бұрын
In WH, evil is a word that doesn’t truly have meaning. All of these factions are relatively bad to the point that you can empathize with Chaos for wanting to destroy it.
@boendal2529
@boendal2529 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@willfrancescofini
@willfrancescofini 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta look up Cobol Yu's Khuresh portfolio!! He's the illustrator who CA even cited as inspiration for Cathay units
@co-bruh1423
@co-bruh1423 2 жыл бұрын
@@willfrancescofini I think I’ve seen those art pieces. They look sick!
@willfrancescofini
@willfrancescofini 2 жыл бұрын
@@co-bruh1423 the one unit I can't stop thinking about is the Haruspex. Might function kind of like a Magic Compass / Mortis Engine, but soo much more gruesome
@TheAtlasReview
@TheAtlasReview 2 жыл бұрын
It really can't be overstated how great Total War has been for Warhammer. It pretty much resurrected the fantasy setting, and brought enough interest to convince GW to actually finish the lore that they forgot about.
@almostontimehero5415
@almostontimehero5415 2 жыл бұрын
Long as I get Chorfs, Nagash and Monkey Emperor everything will be fine.
@9696gamer
@9696gamer 2 жыл бұрын
You're not hot on Thanquol? I think he's interesting but Skaven do have plenty of Lords to choose from already.
@Fire_Gaming64
@Fire_Gaming64 2 жыл бұрын
Add Thranquol and another dorfs DLC to spice them up a bit more to that and I’ll be praising WH:3 as the best total war to exist
@billbadson7598
@billbadson7598 2 жыл бұрын
I still want a (real) Boris Todbringer faction
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Nagash should be part of a whole new Undead “race” together with Neferata (and possibly even Arkhan), or as an expansion to the Vampire Counts?
@Fire_Gaming64
@Fire_Gaming64 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgordley5000 Neferata would rather die (again) than work with Nagash, Vampires really hate him for trying to enslave them to his will. Arkhan should definitely be an unlockable LL in the main campaign map and a confederate-able faction for nagash on the combined map
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome YT deleted the pinned comment and the timestamps as I uploaded the video.... pinned has been replaced will try with timestamps as soon as I have a break in the office sorry!
@eGregiousGames
@eGregiousGames 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Cathay was announced, Snakemen of Khuresh has been my top hope for future DLC race packs. Would make a great evil counterpart to the Lizardmen. Though we'd also need map wraparound so they could actually fight each other ... *crosses fingers*
@JonnehBongeh
@JonnehBongeh Ай бұрын
or put nakai in khuresh
@TheAtlasReview
@TheAtlasReview 2 жыл бұрын
GW's copyright policy is bizarrely aggressive considering how much of their material comes from Tolkien, Moorcock, Glorantha and just general history & myth.
@MrSafior
@MrSafior 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of thinking have a name, it's call double standar.
@spamquisition4046
@spamquisition4046 2 жыл бұрын
It's doubling down on trademark and intellectual property. They surely can't trademark the word Elves but the word Aelves? Fair game. IP law is weird man.
@Lupusam
@Lupusam 2 жыл бұрын
"Big snake monsters could exist in the setting because, you know, big dinosaurs." No mention that the Hydra? The big snake monster that the Dark Elves have caged versions of, that Khuresh could very easily have an alternate version of?
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
Well Hydras are generally their own thing but yes that's possible too!
@manospondylus4896
@manospondylus4896 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a winged hydra that‘s basically a miniature version of King Ghidorah
@thehamman210
@thehamman210 2 жыл бұрын
I still find it funny that Games Workshop just put an A in front of elf and called it a day.
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
MORE INFO: So Total War fans might not be used to this but this is a VERY GW thing to do because well it's not the only stupid thing they do is it? To read more about their stupid copyright battles, a BBC article: www.bbc.com/news/technology-21380003 I'm not too well versed with eastern cultures regarding Naga's and Snakemen but the Khuresh fanproject artists are: www.worldanvil.com/w/warhammer-fan-concept3A-hinterlands-of-khuresh-furious-ming Keep in mind some of them were behind the Cathay fan project which were VERY close to what we eventually ended up gtting in terms of lore / some designs. They look at real world stuff (religion and mythology) and see how it could be translated into Warhammer. Lastly as I said the lore of Khuresh is very spread out but if you wanna read some of it the Warhammer can be found here: warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Hinterlands_of_Khuresh#fn_8b_back ALSO keep in kind CA like to hint stuff early on such as when they were hinting bear riders and for some reason people thought it was nothing lol they've done this MANY times with DLC in the past and I don't imagine they'll start now. ALSO keep in kind CA like to hint stuff early on such as when they were hinting bear riders and for some reason people thought it was nothing lol they've done this MANY times with DLC in the past and I don't imagine they'll start now.
@terron7840
@terron7840 2 жыл бұрын
Im surprised you actually criticize GW. Your silence throughout the IP guideline controversy made me assume that you were shilling for them.
@alexshaw4182
@alexshaw4182 2 жыл бұрын
In reference to it being debunked about races that could be true, but the article did say factions. Maybe, we could get the option of 2, 3 characters as an expeditionary force for Nippon/Khuresh and the complete set for ME2. It seems strange that the 2 main guys have got it totally wrong. Great video, really want Khuresh and mercenary Tigermen!
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
@@terron7840 no I stayed silent on that because like most other youtubers I am not a lawyer. Since I do not understand the full extent of copyright law I'm not going to thrash about my arms mindlessly like a moron. Instead I emailed people and did my research and didn't launch videos to get cheap views on something I don't understand.
@farseeraradrel4808
@farseeraradrel4808 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Your conclusion was most logical
@terron7840
@terron7840 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges No one says you have to be a lawyer, just had to give your opinion on the situation. Many fans were upset about GW's crackdown on fan content and rightfully so. Valrak made his take, Sotek did, Majorkill, Arch, milkandcookiesTW etc. You could have done the same.
@klavicus2276
@klavicus2276 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s some interesting news and cool topic! I personally think Naga/Snakemen could be really damn interesting and would make much sense on a creative/variety standpoint! 1. Snakemen would make the races of TWW3 way more diverse which is always a good thing. 2. As mentioned we already have lizardmen and Medusa so it would be far fetched to see a hole faction based on snakelike beings. 3. It could attract even more asian ppl 4. As mentioned it could be a great opponent for Cathay in a big future dlc 5. There are Snakemen mentioned in Elder Scrolls (and many ppl there want to see them) 6. As an old WC3 player I can confirm that Naga (and even in WoW) are a thing and they have a big fan base there but they never got a proper playable faction or character so that would make things even more attractive and interesting especially for those players who waited to play as or with Naga in those other games. 7. Naga would be - sorry - more creative then another human based faction in the near future after chaos dwarves. (I think it’s certain that chaos dwarves are certainly the next playable faction and then maybe Naga and after that Ind or Nippon etc) 8. Aren’t lizardmen quite popular af the r human factions (we all know most ppl like to play imperials/Bretons even a noob like me) 9. You could make each new LL dragon of Cathay vs a certain faction in a dlc. Like red dragon vs ind, green dragon vs monkey king and blue dragon vs naga Just my 2 cents
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the red dragon would have to fight the monkey king , the nagas and Ind since he's the protector of the south
@jaredcullum117
@jaredcullum117 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking we already have Sepulchral Stalkers and Necropolis Knights from the Tomb Kings, but the Medusa is another good example of snake-like creatures already in game. Wouldn't be that far of a stretch make a whole faction based around them.
@DjangoFett33
@DjangoFett33 2 жыл бұрын
I would kill to see Ind as a race pack. Beastmen and humans working together in a weirdly symbiotic way sounds so cool to me.
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 жыл бұрын
They should have some Hindu-istic way of reconciling Order and Chaos in their cosmology in order to include beastmen, with some Kali-like figure representing Chaos.
@NcrXnbi
@NcrXnbi 2 жыл бұрын
Also sexy Tiger people of Ind. YES, Give them to me now!
@J4R0D
@J4R0D 2 жыл бұрын
I want an Ind divided between Men, Tiger men, Bird men, and the last vampire bloodline that is like cannibal blood priests.
@AzureDragon100
@AzureDragon100 2 жыл бұрын
There's certainly room for one or more minor Chaos gods in Ind, kind of like Hashut for the Chorfs.
@manospondylus4896
@manospondylus4896 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the older Beastmen lore stated that a lot of creatures on the Warhammer planet referred to as Beastmen might not actually be “proper” Beastmen in the sense that they are chaos-corrupted mutants. Some might instead be sapient races that just naturally evolved or were native to the planet even before the Old Ones came. In my headcanon, that’s what I imagine the “Beastmen” of Ind to be and why they can be friendly to humans. Possibly that’s also the origin of the Snakemen even if they eventually succumbed to Chaos.
@TheUrobolos
@TheUrobolos 2 жыл бұрын
I headcanoned a Snakemen of Khuresh faction made by snakes of different castes (warriors, ranged/casters, monstrous infantry) as powerfull but capped high tier troops; and with subjugated Ind humans as cheap low tier troops . One lord for each of the three castes and one that instead buff the human cattles.
@ragnarokivae6136
@ragnarokivae6136 2 жыл бұрын
After the chaos dwarfs, the snakemen of khuresh would be the faction I'm most interested in as dlc
@Jadefox32
@Jadefox32 2 жыл бұрын
I'm up for them and Nippon though Araby and Dogs of War need to come as well because they are pretty fleshed out
@GwyndOwO
@GwyndOwO 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jadefox32 idk if Araby will ever come thanks to the unfortunate issue that is governing the beautiful lands of Arabia
@user-me7iw6ft8z
@user-me7iw6ft8z 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they will be, and Ind too.
@rantymcrant-pants9536
@rantymcrant-pants9536 2 жыл бұрын
They basically said they're doing it all. We'll get C.Dwarves first, then probably Monkey King, then add some old factions with new boys; Rat-mage, High Elf sea lord, Dogs of War will be added with Immortal Empires (like ogres in wh2)Norsca and Chaos will get love, there are a whole bunch of available factions leaders to spread between them. It'll be getting stale at this point so they'll slap us with a Nagash event as WH3.5 and then they'll sprinkle Araby, Ind and the extra spice in like 3-4 years
@jdurthu4304
@jdurthu4304 2 жыл бұрын
I think what with the minor factions being now possible in the big mortal empires we could have even 6-7 years worth of DLC. We will have 7 chaos factions (not counting beastmen here) that all can get many many heroes, minor factions are now possible, empire Helfs, skaven, lizardmen and dwarves and vampires all can get some more love. Also Nagash. This game will be enormous in the end!
@Draffut2003
@Draffut2003 2 жыл бұрын
Don't get your hopes up. So many people convince themselves a million things are happening that was next actually confirmed, and then just get mad when they don't.
@jdurthu4304
@jdurthu4304 2 жыл бұрын
@@Draffut2003 honestly I would not be mad if we do not get this. Firstly the game is amazing and super big already and secondly... it is just a game haha. But looking at how many hints of minor factions and accual minor factions (nkrsca, vamp Coast, kislev, cathay) we already have in the game it is imo reasonable to assume we will see much more of them. Especially that CA said thwre will be mkrtal empires exclusive DLCs also. And those probably will be racepacks
@deamonmindgaming2054
@deamonmindgaming2054 2 жыл бұрын
Toddy will have his day
@Chunthoor
@Chunthoor 2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. The second I saw the name was changed from g to gg, I knew something was coming. Also your thoughts on the map expansion are coherent and agree with my own thoughts. Now we can only wait and see what comes and when, because that something comes should be clear at this point.
@elite6657
@elite6657 2 жыл бұрын
I think this game will have the most race packs we have ever seen
@TheBahamutable
@TheBahamutable 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope so. My wallet will cry
@JordanI135
@JordanI135 2 жыл бұрын
Nathan just a reminder that we love your content. Thanks for doing the thing!
@1perspective286
@1perspective286 2 жыл бұрын
Given that they've brought back mini-campaigns for WHIII, any faction is on the table now, even Araby... and Fishmen! The fact that GW has bothered to copyright Nagga makes it almost certain they will be in game, likely Ind and Nippon too. As I said though, mini-campaigns open up the door for anything, even Albion may make it in, which would make this Boii very happy.
@GermanOlle
@GermanOlle 2 жыл бұрын
Well, as long as the DLCs sell like sliced bread, we will definitely be able to play all Warhammer races in 4 or 5 years. But CA must also have a flair for good content: in Three Kingdoms they had partially lost it (see Eight Princes and Nanman) and consequently sales were weak. I hope the same will not happen to WH3; a phenomenal release with strong sales and then relatively weak support with DLC content.
@changsiah2
@changsiah2 2 жыл бұрын
although I do feel a little sad that Three Kingdoms ended support early ( I can see now why maybe low sales and want to focus a bit more on the Warhammer stuff) but at least some mechanics will be in Warhammer 2 and 3 maybe once Warhammer 3 ended support it I would like to see a possible sequel or just come back to 3 kingdoms yes I know that Three Kingdoms is done by separate part of the CA but still
@Gorbachoph
@Gorbachoph 2 жыл бұрын
I think the three kingdoms game wasn’t done by the main team, the team that makes warhammer
@changsiah2
@changsiah2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gorbachoph yes I know it's not done by the main team ( my read my reply) but I do hope they may come back to it for most of the more content or a sequel
@GermanOlle
@GermanOlle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gorbachoph Yesnt. There are two main teams: one historical and one fantasy. There is another CA in Sofia, who works on the SAGA titles and another team on a unknown topic.
@Tasmosunt
@Tasmosunt 2 жыл бұрын
My most wanted race pack
@ArminageShikoba
@ArminageShikoba 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy that khuresh, ind, maybe nippon, be added as minor races, having only 2 LL, like Norsca, Norsca are good and fine the way they are besides mechanics, but I don't feel they need a 4 LL treatment like Vampirates. I would rather them 2 LL with a solid mechanic that will not need to be updated.
@Arhatu
@Arhatu 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimate campaign map must be made of several small regional campaigns interacting with each other. My proposition is every region must generate several full stack armies if you control all of the regional campaign map and with those forces you can try to invade neighboring regional campaign maps. Main campaign map would be like an improved kind of Shogun total war 1 map that you only place the invasion stacks that you have. On this map 1 turn is the times it takes for all neighboring campaigns to be resolved. When you enter the regional campaign you experience the campaign you are used to. This experience would make way for more diverse maps and more satisfying war and make way for deeper DLCs with the resources at hand.
@docmercy3660
@docmercy3660 2 жыл бұрын
In before nagga was just a dyslexic (or orc) going for nagger
@parttimehero8640
@parttimehero8640 2 жыл бұрын
Now we just wait for the Wonkey King and his legions of Wunkey warriors
@abmong
@abmong 2 жыл бұрын
With the way the map has been warped, yeah expanding the map 50% to the right would give us the rest of Cathay, Ind, Khuresh and Nippon, Elithis too if we're lucky.
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 жыл бұрын
Elithis? I’ve never heard of that one. What is it?
@abmong
@abmong 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgordley5000 Lost Isles of Elithis, the Southeastern most Islands on the world map. Can be equated to the Indo-Oceana region of our world. Inhabited by Elven colonies who are isolated from High/Dark Elves conflict.
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 жыл бұрын
@abmong A good excuse to put in another far-flung Wood Elf faction, at the very least.
@abmong
@abmong 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgordley5000 They could do that, but it would be disappointing IMO
@lordpappanqui
@lordpappanqui 2 жыл бұрын
Sea Elves, from 2nd edition….. CA can certainly flesh out and populate the Eastern Ocean, which will allow a much needed “area” full of islands and associated matters..... by expanding to the east, there is honestly at least 40% of the Warhammer world that had never been represented at all, and with TWW3, we can FINALLY have a proper representation of this part of Warhammer.
@willfrancescofini
@willfrancescofini 2 жыл бұрын
How are you not gonna shoutout Cobol Yu! His Khuresh portfolio is insane and comes with tons of (non-canon) well-written lore. CA is well aware of his work and cited him as an inspiration for developing Cathay units. Please check him out it will be the best hour you ever spent
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
I did it's in the pinned comment and I gave them heavy praise.
@willfrancescofini
@willfrancescofini 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges oh! Thanks :)
@larrydavid6233
@larrydavid6233 2 жыл бұрын
plot twist: the extra g in nagga was a typo
@ondrastonis2944
@ondrastonis2944 2 жыл бұрын
Nathan there is brood of naga queen concept i think you should look because its concept for the snakeman of khuresh the army units lords monsters its wort to look at least
@QuarPro85
@QuarPro85 2 жыл бұрын
I am very excited about all these dlc race packs. Especially chaos dwarfs, which I know are guaranteed. But I'm a little worried about including In, Nippon, Karesh, Araby etc, when I feel like the demon factions need quite a bit more for their roster. Just seems like it'll all take a while and I hope the dev cycle lasts long enough and nothing gets half assed
@jaredcullum117
@jaredcullum117 2 жыл бұрын
I mean we already have Sepulchral Stalkers and Necropolis Knights, so there could be some animations they could reuse from the Tomb Kings.
@TheAshHeritor
@TheAshHeritor 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I reckon they'll show up somewhere down the line. Probably a later DLC once they flesh out the south, as they'd probably have to do Ind alongside Kuresh.
@Asraeks
@Asraeks 2 жыл бұрын
Sup my naggas
@zahnegott5473
@zahnegott5473 2 жыл бұрын
shit you beat me to it
@lt.axesci5644
@lt.axesci5644 2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of awsome hinterlands fan-art/ideas out there.
@sdgamer1860
@sdgamer1860 2 жыл бұрын
ok, this might be a streatch but, after doing some reading on line since i'm starting to get into more lore, does anyone think that we could eventually get the Kuragan and the Mung as DLC race packs? Unless i'm messing something up cathy made the great bastion (the great wall of china basically) to keep the mung out as well as chaos
@GermanOlle
@GermanOlle 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so, but the Northern Wasteland is extremely reduced. Hobgoblins, Mung, Hung, Kurgans just need their space on the campaign map. Things are looking a little tight at the moment.
@jdurthu4304
@jdurthu4304 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly now that we got Cathay, now that we can see GW is coppyrighting naggas, now that we got conformation that there will be some Mega mortwl empires exclusive racepacks- everything is possible
@IKMojito
@IKMojito 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I think they would be missing a mark making another chaos wastes Norscans styled faction when the Hobgoblin Kharnate with the biggest country in the entire WHFB world on the border of Cathay isn't included yet
@Valforg
@Valforg 2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about one way that CA could use to allow fast transportion across the map, without having to implement teleportation or fast travel, keeping it lore friendly. Basically, give if not every faction, most of them a secondary starting position to choose from (for example, give the option to start in Cathay as Clan Eshin or start in Ind assuming it's added on to the game, as Lokhir). So, let's say the full map of WH3 is completed and we have every single piece of land, and there are 70 settlements inside the hinterlands of Khuresh. Make one of those settlements a ruines settlement that then, one faction teleports and starts their campaign there. For example, If you start with Pestilens in Khuresh this settlement would then become the capital and you would start there, and if you decide to start with Lokhir in Ind then he would occupy this ruines settlement. Basically, have a ruined settlement in every continent, and give every faction a choice to start in this settlement but keeping it lore-friendly. (Lokhir could only start in the ruined settlement near Ind, Eshin could only start near Cathay or Nippon, Rictus can only start near the Dark Lands...etc. and as for their original starting locations either substitute them with an AI faction (something like ''despoilers of Karon Kar'', ''Clan Eshin nest''...etc.) or just have them be ruins.
@DeadMarine1980
@DeadMarine1980 2 жыл бұрын
DLC packs will be easy for game 3 especially with the combined map "Immortal empires". They could add in pretty much anyone, Araby, Ind, Amazons....Dogs of War...pretty much anyone.
@jiveturkey5977
@jiveturkey5977 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Naggas added too. I would just be worried that they might be too similar in design to the Skaven playstyles and not very unique outside of graphics storyline design. It would be great if CA made their region much like the real mythology where they are located in palaces surrounded by marshes and rivers that are suitable for amphibious creatures. That way, they could make them mroe unique by giving them amphibious bonuses where the water on the map actually has real effects that slows anyone that isnt "amphibious" which all the snakepeople would be except for their non-snakemen slave units. That way, the their faction can get noticeable benefits from fighting at sea or in watery regions much like some of the dark elf lords. Bonus ambush and vanguard deployment when near water or on marshy terrain would be really cool faction effects too and they could even implement some sort of treasure system for them since nagas were often portrayed in a similar fashion as dragons where they would often be guarding palaces full of treasure. Idk where they plan to put Markus Wolfart, if at all, when they merge the games, but it would be sick to have him relatively close too.
@MrGamerGuy951
@MrGamerGuy951 2 жыл бұрын
What's fucked is that Aelf is still from ancient norse and Celtic mythology. so using it in stories can't really be claimed by GW
@Sticklemako
@Sticklemako 2 жыл бұрын
Yes many indigenous cultures are regularly appropriated with little understanding 😂
@TwistedThor187
@TwistedThor187 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Ind. There is alot of martial history from India and the war beasts would be dope as fudge.
@jdurthu4304
@jdurthu4304 2 жыл бұрын
That is a nice pick and reasoning! I 100% agree that this basically cpnfirms GW want to bring nag(g)as back and because of that they probably will be in TWW3 I think that we do not have to have map expancions. It is possible for sure, but CA has said that there will be MegaMortalEmpires exclusive DLC's. And if we see the whole map in TWW3 MME than rhey could be MME exclusive. But I muat say, the way tou present it with the argument about deformed map is really good imho. This makes it really easy to expand the map they way You described, so they may even be in the TWW3 main campain! Really good video Man! I would even say the best in years. That is really good theory backed with the knowledge of GW behaviour and latest CA trends with ex0anding the maps. Good job!
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 2 жыл бұрын
Ind, Nippon, Chaps Dwarves, Khuresh is what I want. That’s it
@Soggy2002
@Soggy2002 2 жыл бұрын
'Let's not talk about GW and copyright anymore...' *red dot disappears*
@TheTrueFeleas
@TheTrueFeleas 2 жыл бұрын
Any chances of there being a Slaanesh full roster video and campaign overview video yet?
@TheGreatBookofGrudges
@TheGreatBookofGrudges 2 жыл бұрын
On the 10th mate
@TheTrueFeleas
@TheTrueFeleas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly for the update! Wasn't expecting an answer since you've been so busy with your live streams and video uploads. XD
@middykins7963
@middykins7963 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I can't make a "This is not Khuresh" comment, How dare you Nathan!
@middykins7963
@middykins7963 2 жыл бұрын
Also, no humans in my roster!
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 2 жыл бұрын
@@middykins7963 I’m fine with Humans being the Chaff of a Khuresh army because it feels thematic since snakes are typically seen as hypnotic in fantasy and it means that Units of Naga are super strong and elite warriors.
@middykins7963
@middykins7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@InquisitorThomas Well then they can do hypnotics on something better than a slave xD And the whole hypnotics deal would then seem like a budget version of Slaanesh's charm mechanic
@middykins7963
@middykins7963 2 жыл бұрын
And the only exception to this that I would be fine with would be if it worked like the Yuan-Ti from D&D, where they're 95% human, and then had their capabilities improved by going through a trial. And the trial would grant them superhuman strength and stuff, as well as more snakelike body features
@stormerjc9493
@stormerjc9493 2 жыл бұрын
If GW and CA worked with the khuresh fan project that would be amazing and I 100% want to see that happen, also that project has been updated with a lot of really cool stuff like a muated dreadmaw with a flaming horn
@NeverDry999
@NeverDry999 2 жыл бұрын
Being a sane person, I initially thought that the extra "g" was an honest spelling mistake, but this being Games Workshop we're talking about, of course they'd think that adding the extra "g" would make it copyrightable. Like, what other company would even consider doing that?
@SuperRedarmy123
@SuperRedarmy123 2 жыл бұрын
oh my can wait see snakeman of Khuresh
@dao_of_the_gamer4084
@dao_of_the_gamer4084 2 жыл бұрын
One thing, I hab to think about were the daughters of Khaine. While you can not bring them over 1:1, a Naga faction would allow to use those models in The Old World, which would be an incentive of AOS DoK players to try out The Old World and by new minis.
@kyleellis1825
@kyleellis1825 2 жыл бұрын
After the whole Horned Rat ascension to a chaos god and the Vampire Coast addition, I'm expecting CA to introduce either a 5th custom chaos god or bring in Malice as 5th force.
@Seba-rr3dx
@Seba-rr3dx 2 жыл бұрын
A little bit support for your theory that Khuresh will be a thing. When they posted the lore and geography article they mentioned the monkey King and Khuresh (but not Ind and Nippon). A little later there was a post which said: we have no intention to make Ind and Nippon, not naming Khuresh. Both articles combined really sounded like: the will be Khuresh...
@awory0267
@awory0267 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Khuresh in the title, I click the video.
@Folian87
@Folian87 2 жыл бұрын
Some Blood Naga's could also be some sort of elite unit, like the Blood knights for the vampire counts
@dark_lord3772
@dark_lord3772 2 жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for Nagash and amazons.
@cloverdog85
@cloverdog85 2 жыл бұрын
They will def add in ind and the snakes. I'm not sure they will add Nippon but it would be cool.
@ashendant1317
@ashendant1317 2 жыл бұрын
In AoS/Warcry there is Human and Aelf Chaos Cult called the Splintered Fangs who worship a group of snake daemons called the Coiling Ones. Through there are not hints of this, I think the Coiling Ones might be Khuresh's snakemen/nagga that ascended into Daemon Princes. There are also Melusai and Bloodwrack Medusa, but those are related to Morathi's corruption in the stomach of Slannesh. Regardless of my fan speculation, the Nagga/Snakemen might take designs hints from the Splintered Fangs.
@Captain_Mckeggor
@Captain_Mckeggor 2 жыл бұрын
Great catch! This has me excited for WH3 DLC!! If it's anything like how WH2 went I can't wait for some awesome race packs. Didn't CA mention something about races made specific for the mortal empires map? which they collaborated with GW on?
@ThePirateSurfer
@ThePirateSurfer 2 жыл бұрын
Snake men make sense, considering there are probably a fair amount of lizardmen texture and model assets that can be reused
@jamesgordley5000
@jamesgordley5000 2 жыл бұрын
The big question upon introducing Snakemen will be: *What are they* within the scheme of the Warhammer world’s history? Lizardmen were the servants of the Old Ones. Beastmen are the result of Chaos upon the natural world. What the hell is the story behind the Snakemen?
@scorchedamber
@scorchedamber 2 жыл бұрын
the fan project for Khuresh had a compelling argument for Khuresh. another reptilian servant species like the skinks, kroxigors, sauruses and slann but that rebelled and their entire shtick is corrupting the servants of the old ones as a big f u to them iirc
@johnthecrazedsskull81
@johnthecrazedsskull81 2 жыл бұрын
Can you show us footage of eastern part of the map? I only ask as i believe when CA doesn't have plans on expanding the map into an area, the map just cuts off there. But if they did have plans, then the area will extend into the fog beyond.
@swardinc
@swardinc 2 жыл бұрын
i was actually just talking about this with another video Nurgle was mentioned to not like the ocean and i was like besides priate coast is there any other faction that likes ocean not to my knowledge. Also there no oceans on the map? Or could oceans refer to any body of water?
@SiodogRehane
@SiodogRehane 2 жыл бұрын
This would prob be dumb to say, but... there is a YT (SeriousTrivia) that is native Chinese and does have lots of knowledge of eastern history and also total war and warhammer fan. Maybe you can collab for in-depth content?
@calebreinhold6987
@calebreinhold6987 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming it is not a typo, that is to say we get other quotes or whatever regarding them also using nagga spelling then you have a pretty good case you have made. No telling until we get actual confirmation but some serious indications.
@delphydragon
@delphydragon 2 жыл бұрын
While Khuresh doesnt have alot of official lore (Much less than Araby or Tilea), the little bit they do have suggest there could still be some High Elves in the area that likely wouldnt be exactly the same as the ones that stay around Ulthuan. Theres also the possibility of having a Human legendary lord that specializes in all the human based units (Think Ungrim or Durthu)(but thats pure speculation). Heres to hoping CA/GW go with Khuresh as a DLC
@magnushood3896
@magnushood3896 2 жыл бұрын
Could get some mythology from Thailand and Indonesia which a have cryptids and mythical beasts rarely explored in fantasy. You got the Makara which is a snake-crocodile-elephant guy that brings rain. Or the Ahool which is a big ol’ bat demon thing. Could be cool
@daithomas1430
@daithomas1430 2 жыл бұрын
With the orientation of the campaign map could it be to make it easier for the "immortal" empires map to be an orb, so east and west can join and fight?
@chenli9778
@chenli9778 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a brief Run of all Loading screen hints and theory some time? Like just shortly talk about them.
@Undeadscoll
@Undeadscoll 2 жыл бұрын
God, that be sooo cool to have keresh the naga queens and snake army sooo fucking cool
@DamianBloodkil
@DamianBloodkil 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like they'd have to sell something bigger than a race pack for Khuresh, they'd need to expand the map majority into Cathay and through a small section of Ind so chance they might do an Expansion Pack to justify it, maybe add another LL or two ontop of that to more justify the price, same for Ind and Nippon.
@misterhyde408
@misterhyde408 2 ай бұрын
So the 3 other dragons are Yin Yin, Li Dao and Shen Zoo ? The Monkey King on top of it ? That could bring Cathay on par with the Lizardmen in therms of LL.
@jordanbrandon81
@jordanbrandon81 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of suspicious coincidences if so We likely won't know for at least a year but after that we could start hearing more about possibly new race packs We must keep an eye out for more details and in game tid bits I hope beyond hope this is true as they're my most wanted race next to Nagash
@gudboah4688
@gudboah4688 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the backstory for the snake men will be? Since there is a lost temple of the old ones, perhaps the Naggas are warped lizardmen created by an old one who fell to chaos?
@SuperDoggy99
@SuperDoggy99 2 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world, we would get 6 DLC factions: Ogre Kingdoms, Chaos Dwarfs, Kuresh, and Ind for the main campaign, and Araby and Nippon as faction DLC for the combined map. Maybe even a seventh faction, if the Hobgoblin Khanate could be included somehow. I'm hopeful, but also very doubtful of this possibility, because WH2 only received two DLC factions. That said, WH3 is the last game in the franchise, so the support and/or DLC may be produced for far longer. CA is basically printing money at this point. Not only that, but most of the main factions have been done, and if GW is looking to re-invigorate interest in The Old World, it stands to reason that they may look toward filling in the faction and lore gaps that were left with the demise of WHFB. One can dream, I suppose.
@MrTallenx61
@MrTallenx61 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind ind and Kuresh snakemen that stuff sounds cool as hell
@samuelmoffat2874
@samuelmoffat2874 2 жыл бұрын
I think if we all keep up the naggas,...then they'll get the point😉🤘 i hope we get Kuresh and it would inadvertently garner a new type of beastmen and ultimately mutants too.
@Liandrix458
@Liandrix458 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think Nagga are likely, when you think about it a lot of new stuff tries to reuse as many assets as possible to reduce costs and I can imagine the snake cav from Tomb Kings being repurposed and adjusted for various snake units
@jdurthu4304
@jdurthu4304 2 жыл бұрын
Skake cav, stalkers and medusa. There are quite a lot of Snake units already in the game, you are right
@brandonlt6434
@brandonlt6434 2 жыл бұрын
What did I learned from this vid? that we are all Dairy farmers who love milk! XD for real tho awesome vid as always. can't wait for mortal empires v2
@sonnyboy8837
@sonnyboy8837 2 жыл бұрын
History *exist* GW: "hippity hoppity this is now my property." History"god dammit" GW" also our property "
@Valforg
@Valforg 2 жыл бұрын
I want Khuresh with every fiber of my soul
@Tommonius
@Tommonius 2 жыл бұрын
If Correct then map expansions could lead to kuresh/ ind/ cathay fleshed out and maybe nippon. The question for me is how does nefferata and nagash play into this eastern focus? Could we be looking at a 4th game or say a shogun campaign expansion for a new story and time in the warhammer universe? Say do the east then push it to the end times?
@ragnarbaron6090
@ragnarbaron6090 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck that, there better be some chaos dwarves
@filipsvoboda24
@filipsvoboda24 19 күн бұрын
I want them so fucking bad! SNAKEMEN!!
@h3adban60r
@h3adban60r 2 жыл бұрын
This is... did GW think this through? Because with 2 g the word definetly wouldn't be pronounced like the naga. Instead it would be pronounced very similar to a certain racist term... 🙄
@richardshiflett5181
@richardshiflett5181 2 жыл бұрын
Nippon. Ind. Khuresh. Dogs of War. Hobgoblin Khanate. Chaos Dawi. Give me them all.
@seppafer
@seppafer 2 жыл бұрын
apparently Andy Hall said in a recent review that Ind Kuresh and Nippon are not in the current or long term plans for warhammer 3 and that most of this is keeping options open for the future. i wont say you are wrong but I feel like this could become a poorly aged video. Potentially... especially since he has mentiooned they have a ton of plans for expanding cathay. again its possible but I see it as unlikely and not happeneing unless the post launch development continues for much longer than we saw for warhammer 2
@StormoTheBrave
@StormoTheBrave 2 жыл бұрын
In the Kuresh map there seems to be a lost city of old ones, does that kind of imply that snake men are like evil lizard men kind of similar to dwarfs-chorfs, helves-delves?
@lordpappanqui
@lordpappanqui 2 жыл бұрын
Ummmmmm, that sound like a viable suggestion… I never thought that the Snakemen would be related to the Lizardmen, even if slightly….,
@Hekatoncheir_G
@Hekatoncheir_G 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The CEO of GW holds officially the Title of emperor because they title all their positions with Space Marines/Imperium ranks.
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like Heresy.
@carlroy
@carlroy 2 жыл бұрын
I want Nippon. I want Samourai fighting monster and I want it yesterday!
@riccardo393e7
@riccardo393e7 2 жыл бұрын
So cool I hope this will arrive!
@shrekoshreko8056
@shrekoshreko8056 2 жыл бұрын
4:32 If there's a sniper pointing at your head blink twice
@gregoryshinn9805
@gregoryshinn9805 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@CataFREAK74
@CataFREAK74 2 жыл бұрын
More is better, and I can almost guarantee any race pack they release will sell well, so just support the game long term. $$$
@chrisedrington7945
@chrisedrington7945 2 жыл бұрын
This combined with the interview in PCGamesN REALLY has me struggling to control my hype for Race DLC's. They very much stated that they wanted to include factions/ races that had a presence in the TTG, but didn't make it to full army book status. IDK if I'm ready to believe in Snake-Men of Khuresh, but wasn't ready to believe in Cathay either.
@TheBahamutable
@TheBahamutable 2 жыл бұрын
Don't give me hope haha
@alansmith19890
@alansmith19890 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they did that to prevent clashes with Wizards of the Coast but yeah it sounds suspicous.
@td1559
@td1559 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Wizards shouldn't be able to copyright Naga either as they're from real world asian myth.
@alansmith19890
@alansmith19890 2 жыл бұрын
@@td1559 True but this is Wizards we're talking about.
@ForbiddenFollyFollower
@ForbiddenFollyFollower 2 жыл бұрын
Expanding the map East would be kind of weird because of how it's all set up, but ok.
@PaladinQuinn
@PaladinQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
They also changed lore of Araby having Tzeench being the one who took most interest in it, could that mean the same thing about Araby?
@christophercolasurdo919
@christophercolasurdo919 2 жыл бұрын
That isn’t a change. That quote was directly from the 8th edition demons army book.
@CFkatehudson
@CFkatehudson 2 жыл бұрын
i dream of Ind,Nippon and Khuresh just really hope.
@jamieenoshima5147
@jamieenoshima5147 2 жыл бұрын
The naggars of Khuresh is certainly an interestingly attempt at copyright. But we shall see GW legal team we shall see if naggars is a acceptable copyrightable term.
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