Why the Nuggets Are Better with Westbrook Starting

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Hoop Genius

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@corysimmons455
@corysimmons455 Күн бұрын
Russell westbrook should be the starting point guard
@M4dAf4ka
@M4dAf4ka 21 сағат бұрын
I said that before season started.
@Icipher353
@Icipher353 19 сағат бұрын
He should get half of Murray's paycheck along with it.
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 19 сағат бұрын
@@Icipher353 so valid
@eddych2025
@eddych2025 17 сағат бұрын
@@M4dAf4ka same! They called me idiot
@球海豹
@球海豹 17 сағат бұрын
​@@HoopGenius But the problem is Jamal had already failed trying to lead the beanch by himself last few years.....😅
@809Mornelle
@809Mornelle 21 сағат бұрын
Every star that Westbrook played with has a career high in points and ppl try to say he isn’t a playmaker
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
people listen to dumb twitter narratives and the media who hate on brodie cos he's too real for them
@0skarTheGrouch
@0skarTheGrouch 17 сағат бұрын
@@HoopGeniusWestbrook played with KD and Harden on the same team…they don’t like him. Westbrook plays on the same team with LeBron, they don’t like each other. Narratives? Videos and comments by NBA players says he isn’t a good person. You can be a great basketball player and still not have a good heart. Enjoy the honeymoon phase with Russ. Entire fan bases don’t like him, nuggets fans made so much fun of him when he was on the lakers calling him Westbrick.
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 16 сағат бұрын
Nobody says he isn't a playmaker. But you just were never going to win anything with him as your 1st or 2nd option even in his prime. And Denver definitely ain't going nowhere with him starting. Might be a good short term solution, but its gonna bite them back later on.
@BBallLore
@BBallLore 15 сағат бұрын
@@0skarTheGrouch What about the other players that only say good things about him as a teammate and leader? Oladipo, PG, Steven Adams. Means nothing?
@codes013
@codes013 14 сағат бұрын
@@0skarTheGrouchharden dislikes him so much he’s teamed up with him 3 different times on 3 different teams lol? What players says he’s not a good person? I’ve seen countless interviews and quotes about how great of a teammate he is. Seems like you’re just yapping with no substance
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 19 сағат бұрын
My reason on why Russ should start is because the difference on energy and intensity. The Nuggets has been starting really,really slow with Jamal. Westbrook comes with a fire on him to put pressure on the ball, to attack hard, to deflect balls, to move the space, to play hard defense every second he's on the court. Is not about Westbrook putting points. That's irrelevant to me. Is about what Westbrook do on defense and playmaking. He feeds Jokic. He understand the assignment better than anyone else's on the court. Your whole goal and point is to GIVE THE BALL TO THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD. Not to dribble the ball out, not to do your NBA2K1 crossover like Jamal do, not to take non stop mid ranges, not to take contested 3's, not to go the opposite side of the screens set by Jokic. Your GOAL AS THE PG OF THE NUGGETS IS TO TAKE THE SCREEN. MAKE THE OPPOSITE PG CRASH INTO THE SCREEN OF JOKIC ATTACK THE SPACE CREATED BY THE SCREEN AND GIVE IT TO JOKIC. That's your whole goal, but apparently is something so complicated, so much to ask for a 50M player like Jamal who got such a tough time completing this task. Westbrook understand it. He just know the best player on the team need at least touch the ball in all possessions. Westbrook understand that you do what Jokic wants to do. If Jokic set up the play you follow. If he wants to screen you use it. If jokic wants to pop you give it. The problem with this team is that if Jokic is telling what to do, they just stand around, nobody moving, nobody cutting, nobody setting for others. Westbrook challenges Jokic to be involved in all play because he knows this bums like Jamal and MPJ can't create a play for themselves to save their life. MPJ the last weeks has been progressing quite a ton. He's attacking the rim, he's setting his own shots, he's cutting hard, moving without the ball. Is like the Nuggets completely forget their play book the moment Jokic is off the court One of my main issues with Jamal is that he just don't move. He bring the ball up. Give it,jog and put the softest screens and for the rest of the possession you see him standing still like he's annoyed he ain't dribbling the ball. Don't cut, Don't reposition like a premier shooter, don't set up a screen for other players. He just give it and then stand on the swings waiting
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
you spittin right now g!
@gbone1812
@gbone1812 11 сағат бұрын
You should be on the Nuggets coaching staff for real
@alvin081988
@alvin081988 15 сағат бұрын
Westbrook always looking for Jokic is what makes him a good decision maker
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 11 сағат бұрын
This take is absolutely spot on.
@vjekoslavprpic496
@vjekoslavprpic496 21 сағат бұрын
Perfect example of what true PG can give you and how Nuggets use their strenght in ofense, MPJ and CB cutting, Russ passing, Jok taking more shots when they rarely double is what Nuggets need, it's crazy that Jok bad shooting nite this year is 45%
@Doctor-xn4ec
@Doctor-xn4ec 20 сағат бұрын
👍
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
crazyyyyy
@nkrumansantos1794
@nkrumansantos1794 17 сағат бұрын
PG 13 - Beal - Joker - ALL had their best season with Russ as their Point Guard. Russ is way better than most think and more impactful too, if used the right way.
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 13 сағат бұрын
The return that the Nuggets are getting from the Westbrook investment is insane.. Russ is out there working for canned beans right now. Here's a guy who has nothing to prove to the NBA after dominating for years during his prime. He's barely getting paid enough to cover his agent and manager, but he's out there on the court barbecuing steaks with a big smile on his face. I have to admire that.
@jeffreymelton2200
@jeffreymelton2200 Күн бұрын
😂😂 "Did he deflect that with his face?" "yeah he did"😂😂
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
he so great he's even great by accident
@Thraun24
@Thraun24 21 сағат бұрын
That pick and roll of jokic and russ is unguardable
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 19 сағат бұрын
two great basketball minds
@julsc2106
@julsc2106 18 сағат бұрын
Yes and so is the mpj pick and roll
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 16 сағат бұрын
All fun and games until they start Westbrook in the playoffs
@nvhb76876
@nvhb76876 Күн бұрын
Russ deserves a ring...
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 19 сағат бұрын
nothing would make me happier tbh
@PullinMyOwn
@PullinMyOwn 14 сағат бұрын
I’d love for him to get one, especially with my Nuggets. And Russ is a way different player than he was with OKC but let’s be honest. His ball hogging selfish attitude was the reason he didn’t get one in OKC. All he had to do was feed KD like he is Jokic and they could have beat the Warriors that year and the Heat before that. KD left because Russ wanted the ball too much and was taking bad shots.
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 13 сағат бұрын
This rust but not the old one. The old rust was selfish and ecotistical. Thinking he was better than Kevin Durant
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 13 сағат бұрын
Old Russ would be shooting more and acting like he's better than joker
@hudsonwalker8523
@hudsonwalker8523 12 сағат бұрын
Yo I watched this video cus the goat JD Jackson had some stats in here and I love Russ he's my favorite player and always will be, but bro the other vids on this channel look awesome and I loved the way you broke it down in here. Great video!
@PullinMyOwn
@PullinMyOwn 14 сағат бұрын
4:22 AG dove first but yeah Russ gets the JB.
@vukans595
@vukans595 18 сағат бұрын
Yep I've been saying for a while, Russ is the player that makes Jokić better!
@brokenclock77
@brokenclock77 16 сағат бұрын
The face deflection. Another elite move
@mbabuskov
@mbabuskov 19 сағат бұрын
Braun is getting to comfortable with his spot in starting five and doesn't give the same effort he did at start of the season. Now he just runs to the rim every time and doesn't pass the ball. When Jamal gets back in shape, Malone should play Westbrook at PG, move Murray to SG and bench Braun so he resets back to normal.
@briancordry8165
@briancordry8165 13 сағат бұрын
absolutely not and this is an insane take. braun is the only ray of light on the nuggets right now (besides jokic and westbrook).
@c99kfm
@c99kfm 18 сағат бұрын
Russ knows he's playing with the greatest player he ever has, and he's hungry to wash away the stink LeBron put on him and cap off his career with a ring or three. That hunger in an all-time great is what used to make basketball so fun to watch, and watching Jokic and Russell is fun. Also, regarding three-pointers: Just as 40% from three is equal to 60% from the field, 61% from the field is better than 40% from three. Don't count out the regular field goals just yet, especially with the efficiency level of Russell-Jokic.
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 18 сағат бұрын
Russell is finally with a teammate that deserves some respect. Thats the difference. He respects jokic. If the lakers play the nuggets in the playoffs, it's gonna be over.
@GunnLeonn
@GunnLeonn 17 сағат бұрын
Remember the year pg had with Russ? He makes his teammates better
@ShawMays-e3w
@ShawMays-e3w 17 сағат бұрын
​@@GunnLeonnhad P.G. In The MVP Talks & Shot Career High His Final Year With Russ
@eddych2025
@eddych2025 17 сағат бұрын
Man Jokic is even deflecting the ball on Purpose with his Head!!
@rjp1996
@rjp1996 Күн бұрын
russ getting a handful of dat is crazyy
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 19 сағат бұрын
bruhhh ahahahha had to pause for a sec
@davidbell6164
@davidbell6164 Күн бұрын
Trade jamal for some new pieces
@BarnzTT
@BarnzTT 23 сағат бұрын
No value.... Barely available....
@resurrectedpa
@resurrectedpa 22 сағат бұрын
The contract he signed makes it so that he can't be traded until the end of this season so he's stuck here for one year unfortunately
@troykurosaki794
@troykurosaki794 20 сағат бұрын
But Murray but it's different in the playoffs
@BarnzTT
@BarnzTT 20 сағат бұрын
@troykurosaki794 He was trash after the Lakers series......
@Vicky-ln7lp
@Vicky-ln7lp 19 сағат бұрын
​@@troykurosaki794 Has like one good playoff season
@kochenkkhochenk3902
@kochenkkhochenk3902 19 сағат бұрын
No problem if murray starter over russ, but just gave russ 30+ minutes play and when he play, let him being point guard and if both play at the same minutes, murray should force himself into shooting guard
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
yeah man
@projectaletheia8707
@projectaletheia8707 13 сағат бұрын
Excellent break down. You got my subscription
@luisrazi
@luisrazi 22 сағат бұрын
Jamal’s approach to the game it’s similar to Jimmy Butler’s. They might not kill during the regular season but when the last seconds of a playoff game they’re fearless. They will most of the time make the bucket cold blood. Sooo, they are a necessary burden when you want a championship.
@macythompson8786
@macythompson8786 21 сағат бұрын
No it’s not , jimmy b buckets hoops when he not hurt . Jamal has been playing like ass , he is ass . Don’t compare him to jimmy , your analogy explains Jordan poole. That’s who Jamal is a Jordan poole playing aside one of the greats
@Thraun24
@Thraun24 21 сағат бұрын
He should help jokic.. because if jokic plays like this..he should be prone to injury.and that's a bad thing to nuggets if that's happened
@caseydouglas412
@caseydouglas412 20 сағат бұрын
But the thing is Jamal been bad since the playoffs last year and it carried over to the Olympics and the season. Of course I don’t think he can’t bounce back ,but Malone needs to bench Jamal ,give him a reality check. Even though Murray is a foundational piece Malone will have to make some tough decisions.
@Vicky-ln7lp
@Vicky-ln7lp 19 сағат бұрын
Jamal is simply a Jokic product.
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
respectfully disagree.. can't just turn it on in the playoffs with how good the west is this season for jamal.. jimmy has never won a chip lol
@artscience9981
@artscience9981 9 сағат бұрын
Great analysis and explanation. I love to see RW prospering in this new role, the last few years have been hard on him.
@devadattan
@devadattan 13 сағат бұрын
And I’m a Westbrook late fan. I admired him at OKC and I want him to find a home and right now.NOW this is his home. Congrats Russ.
@catatoric
@catatoric 18 сағат бұрын
When nuggets lost to Wizards, Poole had a career high in Wizards, but couldn't score when westbrook guarded him in the 4th quarter.
@defrinprawira6334
@defrinprawira6334 18 сағат бұрын
Russ wants that chip more than anyone is more than enuff reason why he should start fr
@NezreNR
@NezreNR 17 сағат бұрын
People forget that Russ is still Elite PG
@marcuslazarus1405
@marcuslazarus1405 11 сағат бұрын
Jamal is excellent player but not a team player. He, Jamal, spend first 15 seconds with his useless dribbling and then they have to finished quickly, mostly unsuccessful.
@PullinMyOwn
@PullinMyOwn 14 сағат бұрын
0:07 “weaker every year”…that’s debatable. Bruce Brown? Played 81 games for the Nuggets in 2022. Hasn’t played more than that in the last 2 seasons COMBINED. KCP? Shooting a career worst 29% this year and dropped about 3pts per game. Jeff Green? Cmon now. He’s old. Minutes are tanking, points dropped off and he’s only played 7 games this year. We’re not missing any of those guys.
@vgdadragonvito1938
@vgdadragonvito1938 13 сағат бұрын
We should've traded Jamal after we won the ring and got picks and Zack Lavine and Caruso
@raymondpadilla7919
@raymondpadilla7919 15 сағат бұрын
JUST ON EFFORT ALONE WESTBROOK SHOULD BE STARTING..... I DON'T THINK MURRAY GIVES A SHIT. HE GOT HIS GUARANTEED CONTRACT..... NOW HE'S GOOD.
@tvl9971
@tvl9971 20 сағат бұрын
I would start him over Murray
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
wonder if it's a health issue for murray
@Doctor-xn4ec
@Doctor-xn4ec 20 сағат бұрын
Westbrook plays for Jokić and Jokić plays for clown Murray . That’s because of that Jokic now can score 40 plus points . With Murray that’s impossible. Start Russ and Jokić will score every game 40 to be honest Russ is an all star and Murray is average player.
@nenadnovakovic4560
@nenadnovakovic4560 20 сағат бұрын
straight in point ☝️
@nighthiker
@nighthiker 19 сағат бұрын
Jokic + Murray and no Westbrook are +13 per 100 possessions for the season so far, which is incredible. Jokic + Westbrook and no Murray are just +1.5 per 100 possessions, which is ok. So just stop with the nonsense, folks - that's pure selection bias. Yeah, Murray has been subpar so far, but the team has still been a lot better with him on the court instead of Westbrook.
@Doctor-xn4ec
@Doctor-xn4ec 19 сағат бұрын
@ jokic- murraj play 8 years and russ - jokic 5 games from the start . Murray is Wil Burton 2.0 version . He would not be starter in at least top 15 teams in nba. Look al players who played with Jokic last 8 years no one of them is starter only KCP . What do you think that Murray is ?????? Do you have eyes? He is parasite who steels Jokic prime . Whay Jokic produces more ?? Because Russ give him quality ball and with his game Jokic have time to position , score and be more productive . With Murray Jokic need to warm him up and to give him ball and time ( murray low IQ 15 secunde ball possesion and bad decision that is what is happening last 8 years. If Jokic woud play with real super star than is not importa t what Watson or Brown are doing Jokic would cover all that shit but with Murray mission inpossible . FREE JOKIC FROM MURRAY PARASITE .
@nighthiker
@nighthiker 19 сағат бұрын
@@Doctor-xn4ec Whatever, dude. It's clear you're a Jokic fan, not a Nugets fan. It seems all you care about are Jokic's numbers. Again, the data is very clear: so far, for the season, Jokic + Murray and no Russel have resulted in +13 net rating - which is an incredible number. And with the way Murray has played so far, it can only get better, really. The biggest issue is when Jokic is off the court, and neither Murray nor Westbrook seem to be able to solve that by themselves at this point. Go ask Jokic himself what he thinks about all this nonsense - though I'm sure you're not gonna like the answer.
@Doctor-xn4ec
@Doctor-xn4ec 18 сағат бұрын
@@nighthiker yes I’m Jokic fan just like you are Jordan or Lebron fan and its nothing wrong with it . What is wrong is that Jokic need a second superstar to achieve a top level . Murray is not that guy he is not Harden or morent , Devin Booker Only that’s problem , let him go to Orlando or charlote no problem . What Jokic think ?? Im serb and I know what Jokic think when he said that some guys need to give money back or to be banched …. That means I work like an idiot for same mony like this parasite . If you want translation of what Jokic thinks . Life is not Hollywood as you american think my frend , patience is out
@igit_7296
@igit_7296 12 сағат бұрын
I am confused. Some KZbinrs say that Denver basically sucks now. Then some other KZbinrs say that the NBA now has a Russel Westbrook problem. Which one is it?
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 12 сағат бұрын
Listen to The Hoop Genius Podcast daily and you’ll know what it really is
@ididntaskverified3663
@ididntaskverified3663 18 сағат бұрын
Jamal Murray is 40% fg and 30% from 3
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 16 сағат бұрын
It's not like Rus passes taps to Jokic, Joker still has to hit them hoops 😅otherwise Joker would average 15 dimes
15 сағат бұрын
Increase his bench minutes thats all. He doesnt necessarily need to start but he definitely should be getting major minutes off the bench. He needs at least 25 .inutes per game . Malone gotta end the 16 minute nights unless hes playing bad
@hudsonwalker8523
@hudsonwalker8523 12 сағат бұрын
for sure its definitely not as much a matter of whether he starts or not, but how many minutes he actually gets to play, and out of those minutes spending a good chunk of them with Jokic. Its time for the Russ ring we've all been waiting for.
@RamonChiNangWong078
@RamonChiNangWong078 17 сағат бұрын
Russel is hungry for a ring while Jamal already got that fat paycheck
@makedredd299
@makedredd299 Сағат бұрын
You sir are a hoop genius! 🧐
@jackiebartolo235
@jackiebartolo235 10 сағат бұрын
Love or hate Russ he brings it every game I can’t imagine home being a bad teammate
@MrPhoenixsuns
@MrPhoenixsuns 11 сағат бұрын
Westbrook can set the pace. Move Jamal to the sg spot.
@KalifUmestoKalifa
@KalifUmestoKalifa 14 минут бұрын
Nah, the numbers are clear. Nuggs are better in Jok+Mal minutes then they are in Jok+Brook minutes. ANd the difference is not small. We could theoretically move the mal to 2 and slot Brook in 1 but that would mean benching Braun and that would be a significant defensive downgrade to a team that already struggles defensively. No, Westbrook is great at replacing Mal when he is hurt which he often is, and slotting in with the first 5 to let Mal go to bench eatly so he can stagger with the bench in the non-jokić minutes.
@questioneverything0000
@questioneverything0000 Сағат бұрын
Russ is turning Jokic into a monster. Nothing else to say.
@BroknHrt999
@BroknHrt999 17 сағат бұрын
Man said Rus grabbed a handful!🤣🤣
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 16 сағат бұрын
ayoo
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 11 сағат бұрын
The problem with this take is that its half right. Yes, Russ with jokic has been better than Jamal. No Doubt. However, for the nuggets to win a chip Russ can't be better than Jamal in the playoffs. Jamal needs to be the second best player. So you still shouldn't start Russ. You just need to hope Jamal gets it together.
@br8474
@br8474 14 сағат бұрын
Westbrook doesn't have the type of offensive game that is required to win in the West. Let's not forget what Murray has done to the Lakers. They're better off with Russ on the team for sure though.
@holymolly2232
@holymolly2232 18 сағат бұрын
I don’t think russ should start but Murray definitely needs to come off the bench for a little while
@tevornwarren2911
@tevornwarren2911 10 сағат бұрын
He BEEN LIKE THIS !!!! 😂😂
@bogoljubdjordjevic7528
@bogoljubdjordjevic7528 22 сағат бұрын
Russ was my fave when play for OKC beast
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
legend
@donotlaugh8883
@donotlaugh8883 12 сағат бұрын
Russ was always dominant with Steve and he ain’t close to nik so this could be his finishing team and he could win it this or next year easily
@bryanyee7
@bryanyee7 12 сағат бұрын
Honestly, as much as I love "Playoff Murray", he needs to come off the bench from here on out. Not because of he lacks talent but because it clearly looks like Murray is physically hindered and clearly not healthy right now. You can see it in his lack of speed, cutting, and energy. Murray cannot take more than backup minutes right now health wise. Nuggets should be using Murray to torch the opposing bench scrubs from here on out.
@danmalic6688
@danmalic6688 18 сағат бұрын
Everybody please remember that it was JOKIC who asked the club to get WESTBROOK....ok somebody PLS answer W H Y? WHY did he bring this up?
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 13 сағат бұрын
That's a hell of a tactic. Grab the screener's ass so he'll be reluctant to screen you again.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 19 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure these videos are the best examples of what Westbrook brings to the table. I feel the first 3 were actually showing the impact of Jokic guarding pick and rolls. I'm torn about Westbrook. I love his effort, passion and the fact that he is humble. On the other hand his decision making has always been a problem (worst 3 point shooter on high volume ever, even worse than Antoine Walker, although this year he is shooting them at a career best) and the advanced stats really don't like him. Of all the Nuggets rotation players he has the worst net rating when pared with Jokic. Part of that is because he plays a lot of minutes with Strawther (who's net rating with Jokic is only a hair better) but it's still a huge gap to the rest.
@mlrd2687
@mlrd2687 Күн бұрын
Jokic has been the best basketball player in the last five years, and this guy says that Jokic MAY be the best basketball player in the world. When I heard this, I automatically hung up watching the video. Anyone who doesn't know that Jokic is the best doesn't need to say a word about basketball.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 23 сағат бұрын
Good for you man, only listen to people who say exactly what you believe, how dare people suggest there could be a debate.
@TheDifferenceCHI
@TheDifferenceCHI 23 сағат бұрын
@@maartenvzikr 😂.. I was so confused by his disdain lol
@eddych2025
@eddych2025 17 сағат бұрын
@HoopGenius u sound so high at 0.25 speed haha
@ronlumanlan3157
@ronlumanlan3157 12 сағат бұрын
No wonder why Murray never been an all star
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 16 сағат бұрын
Nuggets is NOT going anywhere with Westbrook as their PG. They are already like last in 3 point attemps and starting Westbrook ain't helping that. Denver is probably getting beaten by any team that is having a decent shooting night, especially a team that is shooting a bunch of threes like the Celtics.
@BBallLore
@BBallLore 15 сағат бұрын
@@kjjr3270 The nuggets are top 5 in percentage at 38% so while they aren’t taking a lot of threes they are making the ones they take. They just beat the warriors which is a 3pt shooting team with the best shooter ever. What are you talking about?
@VeljkoTeric
@VeljkoTeric 10 сағат бұрын
Wess bro 💪💪💪JOKER
@allydea
@allydea 12 сағат бұрын
Good analysis, but let the video run my man. The stuttering of the game footage is nauseating.
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 12 сағат бұрын
Appreciate the feedback bro
@Pytliczello
@Pytliczello 18 сағат бұрын
Because he cares, Jamal is only for a check
@yoboichamps9314
@yoboichamps9314 17 сағат бұрын
why not russ at the 1 and murry at the 2
@ShawMays-e3w
@ShawMays-e3w 17 сағат бұрын
Nah Christian Braun Needs To Start At 2 Defense
@jazzindo8888
@jazzindo8888 23 сағат бұрын
Trade Jamal for a descent backup big.
@lche059
@lche059 19 сағат бұрын
what makes Jamal/Jokic two-man game lethal is actually both of them can score reliably...Jamal has the option of going in and pulling up for a jump shot or floater...all Russ has done so far is pass to rolling Jokic...that's nice until opponents figure out Russ ain't gonna shoot...then they'll just collapse to Jokic to take away the pass...and force Russ to take a jump shot... then it's over
@Vicky-ln7lp
@Vicky-ln7lp 19 сағат бұрын
Well,Jamal is not scoring as well as of now
@ColdbloodedJR
@ColdbloodedJR 19 сағат бұрын
Bruh jamal be off this season who put a veteran like Russ and he changes playmaking for the whole team everyone who plays with Russ gets a groove
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
@@ColdbloodedJR fax
@HoopGenius
@HoopGenius 18 сағат бұрын
"until opponents figure out russ aint gonna shoot" the video shows how he closes the space as a driving threat to make plays
@lche059
@lche059 18 сағат бұрын
imagine Russ driving to the hole against AD in the last secs of the game...that aint gonna work in the playoffs...they still need Jamal to get his game back quickly
@strawhatsanji4985
@strawhatsanji4985 19 сағат бұрын
Is Westbrook playing All NBA Defense level right now?
@Maja-hs5pd
@Maja-hs5pd 17 сағат бұрын
Yes, but he won’t be all-defensive due to media bias
@strawhatsanji4985
@strawhatsanji4985 16 сағат бұрын
@Maja-hs5pd Facts
@milospopovic3931
@milospopovic3931 Күн бұрын
Firas Zahibi Twin
@guybartlett9587
@guybartlett9587 8 сағат бұрын
Murray the multi million dollar scrub
@nighthiker
@nighthiker 19 сағат бұрын
Too bad the numbers for the full season don't really bear this out. What you're doing is called cherry picking the data to push your narrative. Look at the on/off numbers for pairings with Jokic and Westbrook and Jokic and Murray. Yeah, Jamal has been underwhelming so far, but Jokic + Murray and no West are +13 per 100 possessions, while Jokic + Westbrook and no Murray are just +1.5 per 100 possessions. So while Russ has been great on his limited role and Murray has still to play up to his potential, the talk about Westbrook starting over Murray is just nuts. Not to mention the issues this would cause in the playoffs. Give it time, folks. You don't alienate the guy who has helped the team get their only championship, just signed a max extension and can't be traded till the off-season. The season is still young.
@ColdbloodedJR
@ColdbloodedJR 19 сағат бұрын
@@nighthiker you look at net I’ve look at the actual game he plays no defense
@nighthiker
@nighthiker 19 сағат бұрын
@@ColdbloodedJR What are you talking about, dude? Net rating shows EXACTLY what happens on the court as far as results go. It doesn't tell you the "why", but it does tell you the "what". If what you see does not fit the data, then it's your "eye test" that is wrong, not the data.
@ColdbloodedJR
@ColdbloodedJR 19 сағат бұрын
@ bruh the net for Russ is messed up because of the bench players and do watch the games cause they score on Jamal Murray attack Jamal on defense the problem aint the offense it’s the defense so who would you rather have more defense who can pass the ball and play defense or a person when he off play no defense or energy?
@nighthiker
@nighthiker 18 сағат бұрын
@@ColdbloodedJR Again, the net is not just for Russ, but for RUSS + JOKIC and no Murray. That includes both games where Russ has started and games where he came off the bench. With all the missed time from Gordon and Murray it's hard to isolate all the data, but that includes a lot of time with the rest of the starters, since it includes both the 5 games where Russ started himself and also because Russ is usually the first to come in for Murray, and Jokic plays the full first and third quarters (for the most part). There's no way the few minutes Russ plays with Jokic with other reserves in instead of starters accounts for over +10 net rating, and the fact is the team still has been great with Murray and Jokic on the court, with or without other starters, so he's not the reason they're losing either way. If the bench is the reason for the 10 net rating difference of Murray over Russ, then clearly that's the problem, and not Murray. Yes, Russel is a better defender right now, but that's not enough to justify starting him over Murray - not to mention all the issues this can bring in the playoffs, plus the fact Murray cannot be traded before the off-season - one simply does not bench and therefore alienates a player that has just signed a max extension and historically has been crucial to the title run because he's not played his best to start the season, much less so when the results are still positive with him on the court. People just need to chill out and stop with the knee jerk reactions that will actually bring more problems than they allegedly would solve.
@ColdbloodedJR
@ColdbloodedJR 18 сағат бұрын
@ bro the offense not the problem it’s defense where he lack I did not mention the offense the last conversation you saying net rating I do not care about i want to see energy from Murray on both ends he plays with no desire to play it’s seems he plays lazy if you know basketball coaches can’t mess with that because he think he above everyone else and it shows when he plays mediocre and getting cooked we’re talking about rn not in the playoffs because last year in the playoffs he was doing the same shi doing bad offensively numbers wise and lacking on defense but you right net rating and all that other shi matters when your star player you play a new contract not balling but you get Russ who was given 3 mill to play better on both sides for there system🤦🏾‍♂️
@devadattan
@devadattan 13 сағат бұрын
We’ve seen Westbrook and this is too short of a sample size. His mental lapses are his demise and ultimately the Nuggets demise.
@jah5776
@jah5776 10 сағат бұрын
What?
@broadmoon
@broadmoon 19 сағат бұрын
That’s easy because tries really hard to win . lol anyone would be better at this stage .
@wruff378
@wruff378 18 сағат бұрын
Well, Jamal's been pedestrian at best when active, and absent often, therefore just about anyone with a pulse is a better start than Jamal this season.
@vladimircurkoski1455
@vladimircurkoski1455 5 сағат бұрын
Because Jamal sucks for the whole of 2024
@r.k1623
@r.k1623 22 сағат бұрын
*cough* max contract on the 76ers bench
@vidicisthegoat5444
@vidicisthegoat5444 19 сағат бұрын
Jamal Murray has been horrible when given minutes with the bench
@cjp1599
@cjp1599 20 сағат бұрын
They ain't winning 💩 with russ as the starter. This jamal slander is insane. When/if Jamal.gets healthy is the only chance the nuggets have. This Russ glazing is crazy... Short sighted idiotic views are everywhere...
@Doctor-xn4ec
@Doctor-xn4ec 20 сағат бұрын
@@cjp1599 you dont understand the fundamentals of basket frend .
@Chedy-RH
@Chedy-RH 19 сағат бұрын
sure and you are the only one with the broad sight right, u don't understand shit in basketball obviously , jamal been playing like ass even when he is healthy for a while now so you need to stop glazing for him obviously , the n**** got the max contract to start slacking off at games he played tf you talking abt.
@cadiszu9855
@cadiszu9855 21 сағат бұрын
He doesn't need to start, he just need more minutes when Murray is starting
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 16 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@lollijavier5820
@lollijavier5820 20 сағат бұрын
Agree 💯% Russ is more useful they Jamal @denvernuggets
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