Why the Pose? The "Hand-in-Waistcoat."

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

>Hands in front holding suspenders >Hands clasped in front >Hands clasped in rear >Hands to the side >One hand on stomach >Hands folded behind neck or head >Angela Merkle synergy hands There's only so many we can do. What else could you really do? Hands on head while getting a portrait?

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Johnny Cash's middle finger.

[@Ciborium]

There's also the Scholar's Cradle.

[@piggypoo]

>two hands using two fingers each covering nipples >finger gun >double finger gun if he shall be so bold >hands on hips >folded arms >hugging one's self like you're a b boy form the 90s >arms fully extended outwards, hands open a la Hanma Yuujiro

[@garfieldsmith332]

Get a bright light and make shadow pictures with the hands while talking.😊😊

[@Chiller01]

Hand down the front of your pants. That’s the Rudy Giuliani.

[@HighLordComedian]

I think its because sometimes you just get tired of carrying your arm around and need to put it somewhere

[@oddballsok]

a TABLE ??!?!? would de the trick just fine...also no need to paint the nether regions ?!?! DUH !

[@jaskapenttila7644]

@@oddballsok What if you're outside then taking a walk without gloves and its below freezing? Sure pockets would do just fine but what if you have none on your coat?

[@TooCool4You69]

Or hidden revolver? 😂👌🏻

[@Sidewinder1996]

Meanwhile Sargent are screaming "why are your hands in your pockets"

[@error5202]

Sometimes gentlemen get all tuckered out

[@alexandersmith3989]

Imagine 200 years from now, someone trying to eloquently explain "dabbing" and being just SO WRONG 😂😂😂

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

That's exactly right! Historians are sometimes romantic and get lots of things wrong which means I get even more things wrong. All we can do is educated guess sometimes.

[@alexandersmith3989]

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I hope you didn't think I was accusing you of being wrong! I know it's all speculative, but I thought your video was great! I just think the idea of someone trying to put a meaning to dabbing, and speculating/theorizing about all the possible reasons, when really it was just a stupid trend, is hilarious! Imagining someone explain it, in the same way you explained this pose, just made me giggle, that's all! But I thought your ideas on the topic were very insightful.

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Thanks Alexander! And no not at all. I can just imagine all these historical figures in the video laughing at many of the conspiracies or ideas as to why they were scratching an itch or something.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq ...yep....totally...E..

[@JLu20]

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq HiddenHand symbology...its a bigclubandyouaintinit💁

[@jonathanpiccone6935]

The hidden hand that rules the world

[@doogaloo5904]

Freemasons pose with it alas

[@grmu3483]

Hand of the hidden veil

[@jerrythebaum4388]

Apparently this is the only comment I found that truly understands it....

[@paulsansonetti7410]

From George Washington, to Stalin, to Mussolini, to Napoleon, to John Wilkes Booth, to Kim Jong Un.. throughout history, many notable, powerful and historically important people have been photographed or, further back in time, had portraits painted of them in which they are making a peculiar and distinct gesture in which they have their hand hidden and inserted into their shirt either over their heart or their stomach.. but WHY?? What does this gesture signify and mean? This gesture is a masonic gesture that signifies being a Master Mason and represents the "hidden hand". This "hidden hand" is Freemasonry, and the historical record of powerful people making this gesture provides proof of the true power, control and influence of Freemasonry that extends over our world throughout our history. It is important to note that, in order to ascend through the ranks of Freemasonry to the point where one becomes a master mason, the initiate must take an oath of fidelity to the order, which includes a promise under penalty of DEATH to maintain their silence and not expose the secrets of the order. More significantly, when an initiate takes the masonic oath, they swear to obey the will of those Masons who are superior in rank. Hence, although we are educated to believe in that "dictators" such as Stalin controlled their empires, in reality, behind their power was this all pervasive "hidden hand" controlling them. Through the documentation of famous and powerful people making this gesture it is revealed that the masonic order has always been in control of the various major world factions and empires that we, the "uninitiated" have been led to believe were separate, independent and autonomous. The hidden hand in this gesture is often placed either over the heart, which signifies one's fidelity to the order.. or over the stomach, which equates with the third chakra, which reveals the mystical knowledge that the masons covet and share only with their own.. The third chakra is the power chakra and the chakra from which "chi" or life force is generated.. It is also the chakra that represents the WILL.. Hence, when placed over the third chakra this gesture not only represents a hidden hand.. it also represents a hidden POWER.. and a hidden WILL that controls things.. Finally, the fact that the hand is hidden also relates to and reveals the masonic connection to the occult, for the word "occult", simply means hidden. Therefor it means all these things.. hidden hand.. hidden power.. hidden will.. and, perhaps most intriguing, it represents the idea that this hidden power is connected and revolves around the power of the occult

[@ghilliemcwilly2162]

​@@paulsansonetti7410 That's a lot of words to just say "all influential people are Masons or Puppets"

[@elultimo102]

The expression: "It costs an arm and a leg," reportedly referred to a high additional charge by artists, to paint hands or legs in a portrait. The pose may simply become popular, having been portrayed in so many portraits over the years.

[@aquil3scach088]

Napoleon wouldn't have money issues to pay for it

[@Intrspace]

Still true to this day 😞

[@westrim]

Yeah, when people mock AI for getting hands wrong, it's important to remember that depicting them has always sucked for just about anyone.

[@DjeauxSheaux]

​@@westrimDrawing hands isn't that hard. They follow the same rules of proportion as the rest of the human body. Once you understand a basic set of proportions for hands is just a matter of practicing, and since most artists have two hands you always have a reference handy

[@battlejitney2197]

Monty Python’s philosopher football match sketch for the WIN! Arguably the best Python sketch ever. Well done, Johnny. Well done!

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

You're a man of good taste.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I possess the last Holy hand grenade of Antioch...bless you my son......😅😅😅

[@salvadordollyparton666]

@@eamonnclabby7067 brother maynard, book of armaments, chapter 7 verse 12... and we shall feast upon the lambs, and the sloathes, and the breakfast cereals, and the orangutans... and lobeth the grenade toward thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it... 🤣🤣🤣 definitely the best. maybe the opression of michael palin. i'm not old, i'm 37... you could call me dennis. if i went round, sayin i was an emperor because some moistened bint lobbed a simitar at me, they'd put me away. help help, come and see the violence inherent in the system! help! help! i'm bein repressed! bloody peasant... oh, did you hear that, that's what i'm on about, did you see him opressin me? just that whole movie is absolute comedy perfection, the word genius does not do it justice. absolutely a timeless masterpiece, and the ONLY movie, i can NEVER get tired of, i've known the whole thing by heart since i first found it like 25 years ago... i'd put it on to go to sleep every night for a while... much better than the perfect storm... i did the same with it, because i only had my tv vcr combo at the moment and the tape was stuck in that i'd recorded it on. i had a dvd player, but didn't have it in the new house for a while, or a real bed or cable, even an antenna... put it on, lay down on my double thick queen air mattress in my giant cave, looking like an abandoned hangar with no furniture. still had tons of room when i got my bed, couch, recliner, desk, entertainment center, big coffee table, and various other things. god i loved that room... bit of a tangent there... god that was such a better time, no wonder everyone is so nostalgic these days. especially with entertainment, nearly everything now is terrible, and even the good stuff often suffers at the hands of being overly sensitive... i'm all for not treating people like shit, and letting everyone be who they are without judgement as long as they're not hurting anyone... but jesus, quit crying about literally EVERYTHING!!! how the hell did i get here? jesus, i'n definitely becoming the old man griping and talking about the good old days... but in this instance, i'm right... the 90's was the best decade ever... from my experience anyway, had the best of everything... modern tech, but still a little freedom to have a damn blast, and disposable income. i don't give a damn what else he did, bill got something right... his wife is terrible, but he did a damn good job, and Monica wasn't too bad, but hell, she's pretty hot now. or last time i saw her when her thing came out while ago... Jesus fuck, ok, i'm done... utterly pointless diatribe over...

[@eamonnclabby7067]

@@salvadordollyparton666 😊😆😆😆

[@joebenzz]

I tried this with my coat and it is suprisingly confortable. Plus it can dissuade anyone from harming you as you could be holding a pistol inside.

[@Will-sq3ip]

Or could be the Assassin’s Creed theory, Napoleon or any famous person is holding an Apple of Eden.

[@TheHipsterGamer]

I was waiting for someone to mention this

[@Nugcon]

Good to know that even artists from over 200 years ago struggled with drawing hands

[@bigblue6917]

I have an interest in Victorian railway history and in formal photographs of the staff at a railway station the stationmaster would strike this pose. Obviously indicating his position in the local hierarchy.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Ditto..Beaching has a lot to answer for

[@BloobtubeVids]

Hidden Hand is his status.

[@maciek_k.cichon]

AI can't generate hands. 18th/19th Century AI confirmed?

[@XMysticHerox]

A way to keep the hands in one place is the likeliest explanation. Especially when making paintings and early photographs this was vital. But in general lots of people have issues with gesticulation. For instance Merkel has her somewhat famous pose for the same reason.

[@ThommyofThenn]

1:49 very interesting considering how the romans did vivid signing while orating. I believe it was so that, when addressing a large crowd, people in the back could "read along" if they couldnt hear. This is depicted on the show "Rome," but I realise this show took some liberties

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Well Roman history also has a span of hundreds of years and 1000s of miles, so I'm sure the trend faded in and out like any.

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq good point!!!

[@alltat]

The Romans had different schools of public speaking. There was both the senatorial dignified hand-in-toga school and the vividly gesticulating hype man school. The former was good if you wanted a career in politics while the latter was good if you wanted a career as a public speaker for hire (which could pay very well).

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@alltat That's so interesting. Thank you

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq PMQS in the House of commons, is less of the waving arms ...more like braying Donkeys...pity I quite like donkeys...😅😅😅

[@liammckeon5340]

Love the videos as always my dude. Suprised this channel isn't over 200k yet.

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Thanks man! I'm just thrilled to be over a 100k =)

[@Chiller01]

125K is great! That’s almost 4 Moose Jaw’s!

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Exactly! I just wanted to be bigger than Moose Jaw bastards!

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I,m guessing that is a quant local thing, like our mutual rivalry with Wrexham..😅😅

[@Daniel4646]

"Was this pose an easy way to keep their hands from wandering during speeches or portraits? Or was there more to it?" Actually, they were all wearing scratchy underwear.

[@spider46531]

I posted it to my site about old photos in facebook. After all these decades it is so odd that there is not a reason for this! thank you for this

[@HelghastMerc]

I remember reading an article about the hand gesture in painting, a few years ago, and the reason they did this was because it was the "hipster" way to strike a pose for their paint portrait. Or at least, something like that. Had no idea this gesture could be traced back at ancient times.

[@Asiandynamo]

I like the Al Bundy myself.

[@arnoldpalmer3224]

As always Johnny your videos are the best. Keep them coming. Loved the your video about the M1 rifle.

[@roymuerlunos2426]

I like The Fat Electrician's explanation for this pose, it's actually just a knife hand sheathed.

[@Atrahasis7]

Napoleon was 100% a man of the enlightenment and a big progressive, BUT more than even that, a gigantic nerd of Roman history so yes it was emulating ancient oratory of the hand in the toga. And its a nice way to just rest the hand instead of folding them or behind the back while standing. With jackets with high pockets i find myself doing this involuntary in cold weather its more comfortable than low side pockets.

[@oddballsok]

napoleon , the emperor (!!!) could easily hold the imperial command stick ...(whatever it is called)..had them with emperor augustus !!

[@vikingshark2634]

As an artist I just always assumed it was because hands are a struggle. Anybody who's struggled with hands and/or symmetry knows what I'm talkin' about.

[@Drew-bc7zj]

I used to draw a lot, and my opinion is if you can draw faces then hands should be no problem. 🤷

[@CaDzA818]

Its not just AI, humans had problem with drawing hands 😂

[@RedentSC]

its crazy to me that you were able to go from Napoléon and Wellington to Ricky Bobby and it still work :D love it man

[@copperdee3073]

Freemasonic Gesture called "The Hidden Hand"

[@na8291]

2:38 sherman looks so cool here

[@151mattwilson]

Not the first time commenting, please keep your videos coming :)

[@vertigq5126]

I had no idea about Aeschines and the classical connection, thanks for teaching me something new! Love your vids man

[@Guts3570]

In a few hundred years, people will wonder why we always had our hands in our front pockets in photographs.

[@carsid73]

I just read an article in Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet about nobility. I think the reason for the hand is in fact security. On that hand is the signet ring with the family crest that proves who you are. A sort of identity card. So maybe the pose is to show nobimity indirectly like "please don't depict my ID card in public".

[@drshemp1]

The Kids WB show Histeria! had a joke about Napoleon. He claimed it was so noone could steal his wallet. lol Great video!

[@joejoelesh1197]

I like the energy in @2:26 . Sherman and his staff. He just exudes the, "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all out of bubblegum."

[@charliedurnford3277]

It represents the 'hidden hand'. It is a common hand sign of some secret societies. The hand being hidden behind ones jacket symbolises secret arrangements.

[@arnowisp6244]

Npw why would they everyone they hold secret arrangements? Nevermind. They probably like showing they hold secret they know we cannot prove.

[@michaelwills1926]

Very good. Amazed so many people are clueless to this. The modern equivalent is the one eye symbolism

[@paulwee1924dus]

In "The last remake of Beau Geste" from 1977 with Marty Feldman, we see a scene with a Napoleon painting who has his hand in his fly instead of his jacket. An old use of the French against cold finger.😂😂😂

[@kmorris180]

I've been watching your videos from the beginning. I can tell you that I'm not opposed to you video about poses. Mainly because you are not a poser and you compose great videos. 😂😂😂

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

What possessed you to make such a comment.

[@kmorris180]

@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq 🤣🤣🤣

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq the biggest posers, play in the Premiership....

[@ValdVincent]

The two most likely of these I find is that it had to do with holding the pose, photos took a long time, your arm might get tired, paintings took even longer. The other is that it was some secrete society thing, a lot of those existed in the 18-19th centuries, yes many of those still exist but there were a lot more of them before. The third reason is simply because someone else did it. Memetics were a thing after all, hoop skirts, walking canes, etc.

[@muskratrepairservices7701]

Love your channel Devastated that Time Bandits wasn’t referenced

[@trappenweisseguy27]

If they were painting Clump they’d have him doing his invisible accordion routine 🤣.

[@rbclc]

Those Spartan elders/prominees in 300 sure looks like bumps.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Now we need an official Johnny Johnson hand in coat portrait

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Haha one day

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq or the random point at something in the distance...😅

[@EGeraldhuebner]

just watch the Monty Pythons Flying Circus sketch the mouse problem and you will know, why Napoleon Bonaparte was having his hand in the coat ^^

[@SPQRTejano]

This pose would later be updated by the world's greatest sportsmen (four touchdowns in one game). Instead of in a waistcoat, he would slide his hand into the upper part of his pants

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Good ol’ Al..

[@paulofelipebbraga9634]

Because they sometimes feel lonely in the field during the war.

[@HarborLockRoad]

I always picture my bosses at work posing for photos like this , in my mind, for posterity, due to all their useless, idiotic ideas they implement

[@Wikkus]

I love these short clips on topics that we're all kind of familiar with, but have never considered the origins of. You have a great narration voice and style, your research shines through and I am constantly amazed by the huge variety of clips you use to illustrate the topic. Kudos, chap. All the best.

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Thanks so much for the kind feedback 🙏

[@simeondarke201]

As a military re-enact or who has worn kit that is made from original materials, 18th century undervests itch like f.

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

The itch theory! Also makes perfect sense to me.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq British battle dress has that effect too😅😅😅😅

[@myfaceismyshield5963]

Some ancient Roman togas were made specifically in a way that required one arm to hold the fabric up. This was a real show of wealth since wearing something like that clearly showed that you didn't need to do any hard labor and that you weren't afraid anyone would try to fight you. It was more common with upper class women, but some men also wore outfits like that.

[@anttitheinternetguy3213]

I dont know who The last Guy was but "My anxiety is right here" is kinda nice explanation haha

[@someguy1026]

I think it's ultimately a comfort thing. It's more comfortable to rest your arm on something than carrying it around, and it reduces fidgeting while being painted or photographed.

[@Apokalypse456]

and it does look stylish

[@LucasStaffel]

I have the same idea... it's just comfortable I've seen many security and policemen doing that with their bulletproof vest, it's basically another "pocket" to put your hand in

[@L_Train]

AL Bundy used a modified version of this pose.

[@Unprotected1232]

They're definitely hiding an apple of macguffin or something.

[@dase3368]

Truly a glorious hymn🙌

[@academision]

Surprised it wasn’t in this video but I read when I was researching this a few years ago that it was thought to show that a person/ leader had confidence.

[@frednone]

Good video, might of been nice if you had snuck Bill and Ted's Napoleon in, but I can't remember if he struck that pose during the movie.

[@DakshHegde-uv4hn]

The redbull theory seems legit

[@migsmethinks5801]

Ancient Romans: Waving one's hand around while speaking is rude and hostile. Modern Italians:

[@adamarthur2042]

as an artist, i would like this pose to come back.

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

My purse strap is in around that height and I often rest my hand on it. So I'd guess they just needed some place to rest the hand and when notable people did them it caught on as something fashionable.

[@SaffuillaKarman]

Your serious face is what did it for me😅😂

[@SkagMac]

Its because the past artists also struggled drawing and painting hands

[@leo78744]

I am the oldest cousin - I intentionally do this when we take a family picture

[@Axemantitan]

A theory I heard was that Napoleon had Parkinson's Disease and didn't want to be seen with his hand shaking.

[@rosmundsen]

There are many photos of American cowboys doing this pose in post Civil War days.

[@hulahands7833]

The hidden hand

[@RyanKing00]

"It would slowly fade away" Of course you said that with *that* photo as the reference.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Oh, yes, the Nikolai Yezhov picture, also used by TV Tropes in reference to the "Un-person" trope.

[@ecksdee1149]

I have a few (bad) theories 1. Back then they didnt have pockets 2. Keep hand warm? 3. It was easier for artists to just hide the hand rather then paint it, so when people saw the paintings they thought it was something youre supposed to do

[@jamescrab4110]

we've always had pockets, especially recently.

[@kielbasathief9576]

Apparently I do this subconsciously with my Carhartt button down work coat.

[@GerardMenvussa]

Painters struggling to draw hands? Hmm.... so they DID have AIs back then! And *they* are trying to hide this fact from us!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!! Jokes aside, 2:51 was touching :o

[@paulgrillo6856]

I think it was from a naval captain who lost his arm and had his sleeve pinned to his shirt and it took off from that or something.

[@xlmao]

I think this posture translates to "I have more to myself then what is visible" or "Im a reserved person" since you are holding 1 hand in front of you (hidden)....

[@DrygdorDradgvork]

Clearly it was for the self-satisfaction of flipping off the painter without them knowing. I mean, those things take a while.

[@DonVitosLazyEye]

The more and more I was looking at this pose in the video, the more weird answer confusing it became.

[@DjeauxSheaux]

Speaking as an artist myself: if you're competent enough to paint a lifelike portrait, you can paint hands. Hands aren't nearly as difficult to draw as human faces

[@IcemanE52]

And all this time I thought they were scratching an itch!

[@halfcadence1417]

Johnny, you are a master of media aesthetic

[@aaudi6365]

Which Aeschines were you referring to? There is Aeschines of Neapolis, Aeschines of Miletus and Aeschines of Sphettus

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

389-314 BC

[@eamonnclabby7067]

​@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I thought he played for Napoli 😅😅😅

[@Anonym-yr4qn]

"God dammit! I swear to God, i'm gonna draw my flintlock pistol if he won't stop painting Me in the next ten hours i planned to spend by standing here!"

[@samiamrg7]

In terms of classical tradition, perhaps it harkens back to how high class Romans held their formal togas together with one hand, usually the left, instead of using a clasp or knot as a sign of not having to use their hands for anything else. This did eventually fall out of style in the Roman world because eventually even the upper crust got sick of how inconvenient it was and so switched to regular togas that held themselves together.

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

I could get behind this thought.

[@enginerikli5895]

Simple: Those hands are just in search of a comforting pocket which hadn't been invented yet. Hence, the waistcoat.

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

Well, if you try it is a very comfy Pose 😉 By the way a modern variation 😉of the pose is resting the hand inside the bullet proof vest

[@Razgriz85]

Hurt my arm slipping on ice years ago, and I put my hand in my coat for the whole day because I didn't have a sling available. Luckily it was only sprained, and not broken.

[@davidguardado4739]

It's a Freemasons pose

[@juliantotriwijaya9208]

From what I heard it is a sign of humility, a self hadicap metaphorically speaking, like, most of these past generals and politicians/nobles has immense power, so, to humble themself and put the audience at ease as to not show off their power rudely, they would put their right hand in the jacket, in the case or ancient Roman they wrap it around their toga, both of these of course, also make it a hassle to make your hand go down and grab a sword or gun. It's a similar case to having a guest coming to your house, you can't exactly talk to them standing up, you have to make them sit down and feel both comfortable and have their safety guaranteed by You as the host or speech speaker.

[@gostraight2funded]

I find I do this myself when thinking or reflecting. Some men just simply do this.

[@xanderunderwoods3363]

I love all of your videos

[@JohnnyJohnsonEsq]

Thanks man always appreciate kind comments

[@JamesParus]

Most recent variation has been the Al Bundy pose.

[@zurbruggpaul4360]

Its so good that you write the name of every movie on the corner, i think it helps a lot

[@zurbruggpaul4360]

Very nice videos by the way

[@raypurchase801]

Nice editing. Lots of work in this video. Lots of visual examples from movies.

[@DustyB]

I find myself doing this whenever I have button ups, idunno why tbh

[@GadreelAdvocat]

They didn't have hernia surgery back then. They used to wear a sash under their clothing. To put pressure and provide comfort from the fabric continuously digging in. Then others copied it. Because it did look regal.

[@MatthewChenault]

Putting your hand in your coat like this is a neutral position; similar to slipping your hands in your pocket. It’s an easier way of carrying your arms without exerting as much energy.

[@qwertykeyboard7640]

It keeps the sword hand away from the sword as in whoever is being painted is so confident he doesent need to protect himself

[@musicalcharge]

Thought for sure Pedro was gonna say it was so no one could accuse him of wandering hands.

[@akatsiya_11]

"napoleon pockets" are still built in to soft body armor carriers that police use, in some cases.

[@zoilaugarte9096]

Posiblemente prestancia, un gesto que denota autoridad o señorío. La alternativa es llevar el brazo detrás, sobre la cintura (se puede ver en películas de época, como 'Titanic'). En un retrato refleja la majestad o poder del modelo y es, además, elegante. A nivel práctico ahorra tiempo de ejecución en la pintura (las manos son difíciles.).

[@thewanderer1317]

Best way to keep the knife hand sheathed

[@AWESOMO5]

The hand in waistcoat is to signify that the individual is packing serious heat, and that one does not wish to become familiar with it

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Poseurs.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Allo Allo..I vil zay is only waance...

[@Demolitiondude]

Explains my friends sleeping position.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

No snoring please...😅😅

[@Demolitiondude]

When he falls asleep sitting up right. He does the waistcoat tuck aka the napoleon as he sleeps.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

@@Demolitiondude sounds complicated...as opposed to the Duke of Wellington's oft repeated phrase up and at ,em..boys...we was less than complimentary about us Irish however...E..

[@Demolitiondude]

His other positions is phantom cigarette, half Buddha, full Buddha, and sleep smoking.

[@iamjimb]

Was gonna make a joke about Nelson doing it, but you mentioned him already :(