Why The Rating Gun Can't Rate Sampo & March? | Honkai Star Rail Lore

[@issanone]

Don't forget about the special mirror in March's room which looks suspiciously similar to the mirror at the forgotten hall.

[@Курлык-ж8т]

Or maybe mirror in her room is fragment of Idrila eon of beauty

[@LeftyPencil]

Check out March's companion quest :)

[@MelT00n]

I dont wanna spoil but a ‘Certain’ Memo keeper described someone from one of their faction that loves capturing memories on cameras

[@Rinalicia]

If you go to March's room and look at her pictures you will see some that she wasnt present for or couldnt take a picture during so it could make sense that she is collecting memories

[@chillhour6155]

Or Himiko is just helping her taking Orbital photos

[@angelvu]

@@chillhour6155There's a photo of Blade inside of Dan Heng's dream 😭😭

[@kazmark_gl8652]

A bunch of those "photos" are screenshots of the game. you can ascribe a deeper meaning to them, but Occam's Razor would lead me to conclude that the Devs took screenshots of cool moments while playing the game and then set them to roll on March's wall to represent player progress in the story. The projector in Belobog's museum does the same thing, it projects a video that would have been impossible to record. because it displays mostly concept art.

[@SonicDRJ]

@@kazmark_gl8652true… though I do believe one of the first time you interact with March’s memory board, your character mentions how some of the photos couldn’t have possibly been taken with a camera, and that they wonder how March got the photos.

[@Kocho-p8y]

She has photos of Dan Hang's dream

[@saintfayde4438]

inb4 March is actually Idrila the Beauty, who disappeared (in this case, was frozen solid by Fuli). Much like Fuli, the path of Beauty would also explain her love for taking photos, the beauty of the world around her

[@confusedjay717]

I like this idea. Her technique is also called "Freezing Beauty" if that adds to the theme.

[@sampofools]

she also always talks about pretty girls n stuff

[@saintfayde4438]

@@confusedjay717 I'm about to blow your mind. In Japanese, March's name is Mitsuki. This translates to Three Months. But it can also mean...Beautiful Moon.

[@saintfayde4438]

To be honest I was just spitballing in the dark, I like to propose different theories on different videos

[@hellohororo1075]

Imagine Sampo being Aha

[@neanahidden]

Interesting theory. Sampo being emanator to Elation could be true. I just don’t think Sampo was talking to us. He did speak to an audience, but not the players. He probably belongs to the Masked Fools, followers of Elation Aha who just wreak chaos across the universe just for fun. Sampo was basically streaming his deeds to other members. In the simulated universe some events are about a tavern with masked people. (Usually cowboy fights, or you can choose to fight A, B or both of them.) That is the meeting place for the Masked Fools and Sampo mentions a tavern in his fourth wall speech. Sampo is a lot like what Masked Fools are. Not really “good” or “evil”, just doing anything to never be boring or bored. Why wouldn’t Aha resonate with him. I’m interested to know more of him. Chaos is fun but can also be dangerous.

[@BostonCreme]

I have a question. If Sampo wasn't speaking to us, then why was there a dialog option that said we dreamed about him? Was he basically talking to anyone who would listen, which are the players?

[@neanahidden]

@@BostonCreme good point, that was weird. My thought was that it’s a same power we used to connect into Cocolias memories in our dreams before. That could have been just a link toward the other stellaron, but we have been able to do other things too. Like speak with the fraction monsters. Maybe having a stellaron inside you makes you more “receptive” of things, especially related to the all aeons. That’s why you’re the interesting bait in Simulated Universe to get Aeons to speak to you. You’re kind of tuned onto special channels that most can’t get 😅 Heh, or maybe Sampo did it on purpose? Who knows. It’s all just speculation anyway :)

[@BostonCreme]

@@neanahidden yeah. but that would mean that Sampo was aware of the stellaron that is inside the player the whole time and he just decided to not mention anything becuase that "would ruin the fun" also wouldn't that mean cocolia was the emanator of Qlipoth the preservation because she (the stelleron) communicated with us via dreams?

[@tomixravenloss]

​@@BostonCreme no. Cocolia was linked to MC solely due to the Stellaron. All the Cocolia memories we see in dreams have the Stellaron in it too. We weren't dreaming of Cocolia, we were dreaming of the Stellaron... Which happened to be with Cocolia.

[@BostonCreme]

@@tomixravenloss oooooohhhh

[@pauldesert2541]

I'm gonna get pissed if March doesn't get an awakened form just like Dang Heng

[@zarkukainis]

*spoiler* Her 5 star is in the files At least thats what I've heard from other leak accounts

[@pauldesert2541]

@@zarkukainis ohhhhhhhhh i hope it wouldn't take long for her to be released

[@noruwaado_san.hyougen]

​@@zarkukainisI'm looking forward haha!

[@alialekberov4001]

​@@zarkukainissource trust me bro..xD but anyway it's very likely for her to get few "battlesuit"

[@GortinTime]

There's beta gamaplay of "eileen", which uses the model of march@@alialekberov4001

[@darkomiku8902]

Being literally the icon face of HSR, March 7th's story aint that simple. Look at Paimon and Kiana.

[@Maevix3142]

Speaking of Paimon, were what? 3 years into genshin and still have no idea what in the world paimon even is 😂

[@RinAsakura-uu3dy]

@@Maevix3142 Paimon's Paimon 🗿

[@manymanyatoms9327]

@@Maevix3142 Paimon is emergency food 🍲

[@vincikeeper1581]

​@@Maevix3142 Paimon is theorised to be incarnation of Nicki Minaj.

[@dats1061]

Here’s a cool theory: The person who provides the memory of chaos said that if she did something forbidden she would be forced to lose her name, identity, memories and possibly existence (where no one ends up remembering her- idk if all that’s true tho) which sounds awfully similar to what happened to March 7th- maybe she managed to survive was because Fuli had something else planned for her like you said- but it could explain why no one remembers her

[@Maevix3142]

Yeah that could be why the MoC person just doesnt reveal themselves to march thinking theyre not important or something

[@abba9881]

I was thinking about March like 3-4 days ago and came to the same conclusion, her obsession with photos is such an obvious hint to Fuli (also remember the scene from luo fu when dang heng sees her crystals and says like "yeah march were there", it was like her crystals heavily implying the concept of making timestamps or marks that point to past events). Same goes for Sampo, from the moment I've read the line about masked fools in the SU, I knew with whom he was close to. however I don't have the General, and I didn't know much about his lore so thank you for you for the hypothesis about connecting them together!

[@tallycremator]

for jing yuan, he's prob an emanator bcz of the luofu following lan, and his weapon was made from a piece of the lux arrow made by lan

[@dankmemer6576]

Idk bro, that part of Dan Heng seeing March's crystal seems like a stretch

[@neanahidden]

March wanting to remember everything and make concrete memories to hold by taking pictures is also a good character writing. It feels very understandable from a person who has lost all their memories once before. But linking it to Remembrance would be a cool next step…

[@abba9881]

@@dankmemer6576 do you know what does "narrative" mean?

[@yura6299]

​@@tallycremator and i think I've heard somewhere that lightning lord is a gift from lan but I'm not sure how true it is

[@thenyanraptor]

This theory does hold ground, there’s even evidence in March’s in game kit, as even though in combat she’s considered Preservation, and she does well enough with that role, her skills are more focused on inflicting freeze and ice weakness break (which applies freeze).

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

Honestly, that’s why I’ve been wondering if I should keep the effect hit rate armor or change it for a def one so I can get full defense set.

[@racerswiftronmusic7825]

She also follows the path of the hunt know and deals imaginary damage

[@shakirmorgan4840]

Don't forget Clara! The rating gun notedly refuses to rank her.

[@hoppie4263]

It probably related to her robot doing the fighting for her

[@Sambroke]

Do we know anything about her past? I don't have her so I haven't read her story stuff

[@annaairahala9462]

There's a difference. March, Sampo and Jing Yuan are all "Rating Invalid", meanwhile Clara, Sushang and Bailu are no rating

[@BlitzAce1995]

Yeah I'd like to know what's up with these three receiving no raiting

[@gachaleaf1551]

​@@annaairahala9462I think those could be that they haven't actually yet tapped into the aeons. I mean, Savrog fights for clara, Bailu uses medicine she has made and Sushang is fairly new to being a soldier/guard.

[@bamboozledtree6803]

i think it's more likely that sampo is part of the masked fools rather than an emanator of aha but it could also be possible that everyone in the masked fools are granted powers by aha just because aha just does it for fun just like how one time he made a worm gain the powers of an aeon just for fun

[@angelvu]

Omg I forgot about that 💀💀💀

[@BostonCreme]

He could be both. Like he's an emanator for aha, but he uses the masked fools as cover.

[@abcyclops]

I guarantee you Aha has multiple members in the Masked Fools who work for him... Who are all told the are the only one :D

[@Nixahma]

I know this was 10 months ago, but I just want to say that Sparkle, another masked fool, is 55 points.

[@jonesOtr]

@@Nixahma and acheron cant be rated

[@OrbitalLunatic]

This theory is ringing more true now. It doesn't rate Acheron either.

[@Maevix3142]

I just checked that too, the minute i saw invalid on my acheron i was like HMMMM

[@genesisofthebetween]

I’m here after 2.1 to pass on some very important info about this theory. Acheron (confirmed Emanator) gets this message.

[@ascensionero6724]

The theory seems good, but if being an eminator of an aeon gives such results, than that would mean that Herta should also have the same rating, as she is an eminator of Nous the erudition. However, she is rated very low, 3 points if I'm not mistaken, which may disprove this theory. One explanation for Herta's low score may be that she uses puppet bodies, but it may also be a defective of random scoring curio.

[@equalopportunity2048]

I think it's just because of the puppet thing. I'd imagine eventually we will get a 5 star Herta who is the real one and have her emanator powers on full display.

[@neanahidden]

But the thing is, we don’t know what the scoring means and how they relate to each other. Getting a higher number isn’t necessarily better :)

[@naoz9228]

Well yea it's rating the body in front of it, a weak puppet that's being controlled by her is what we have, not the emanator herself

[@darknessknows1235]

@@naoz9228 If it rates the bodies in front of it, it would also explain Hooks score being close to Welt/Herta, especially if we assume that it rates a character's potential/how close they are to that potential. As a kid, Hook can't grow as strong as if she were an actual teen or young adult, and her as a teen/adult would be different than her as a kid

[@roymantic1833]

And Welt is a 3

[@mayamoon9207]

My first time interacting with that gun was with March, Sampo and Jing Yuan on my team so I thought it only rated MC before I saw videos about this. I really like this theory of March and Sampo being emanators. The connections between March and Fuli are so strong too, what with the memory loss and wanting to take pictures of everything to never forget them. And the fact that the path of Preservation in the Simulated Universe is all about freezing things

[@hijisfriend9030]

*remembrance

[@seiren.9392]

"this moment will be frozen in time"

[@Maevix3142]

March even mentions in her character story that she doesnt view her 'six-phased ice' as actual ice but rather as condensed crystals which is another link to Fuli

[@buncraft7130]

I wouldn't say that march's theory has a hole, more of a unbuilt bridge since the leader of the stellaron hunters literally left out key info to kafka due to the mind reading abilities from Xianzhou and given the fact that the Fuli's followers literally have the ability to take and view memories it would be dumb to leave her with memories that can be traced.

[@fancymustache3793]

I believe the gun rates people based on how closely related they are to whatever aeon they are part of in some way. March, Sampo, and Jing yuan have very close if not direct connections their aeons whether that be through having a portion their power or whatever. MC has a rather high score but it isnt invalid because the MC as a person isnt directly connected to an aeon and its mainly the stellaron affecting their score because well stellarons can do many crazy things. It could also be that the MC can only get so close to an aeon and doesnt have an invalid score because they can have more than one path cannonicaly

[@Unragedfire76]

That's kind of what I was thinking the lower the better to throw us off like golf the lower the score the better

[@Doflaminguard]

Sampo biggest link to Elation is not that he breaks 4th wall but he performs for The Tavern, an entertainment hub for Elation.

[@mikhailabraham421]

The masked fools to be specific, followers of the Elation

[@forthelichkingsname]

everyone is hyped about dan heng's true form... what really scares me is March 7th's origins. If she happens to be the Primordial One from another universe, i will riot.

[@britishneko3906]

most likely akin to Elysia at least Hoyo likes to just take stuff from their old stuff and warp it enough to fit perfectly in the new

[@RegnatorofFutility]

If I remember correctly, Jing Yuan also receives an invalid rating, and Sushang does not even receive a rating of any kind (she doesn't even get the "invalid text") it's as if the rating text has been skipped, but the weird thing is that her (? or more likely the player's?) reaction to the rating is still there, as if she was given a rating, we just can't see the rating. Sushang's rating could have been an accident but either way it's still worth mentioning because of how fishy it is.

[@reinasrosesarered]

I know i might be wrong, but im thinking if characters from HI3 come up with invalid text, can anyone find out for me?

[@Duarte_GB]

@@reinasrosesarered Bronya gets rated like 34, it even says "maybe the rating is based on intelegence?"

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

@@Duarte_GBWell tbf Bronya Rand do be kinda stupid lmao. Anyways, the bottom text always changes each time you use it, so it doesn’t matter, the score is what matters.

[@Duarte_GB]

@@WhiteWomanSlasher "Guys trust me lying to my people after they just had a dictator in order to allow myself to be in power is surely the best course of action"-Bronya moment

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

@@Duarte_GB BRUH I KNOW RIGHT Honestly, I’d say it’s a Rand moment considering she’s more of a mini Cocolia rather than a Bronya, even Hanser, the CH VA of all Bronyas didn’t voice her (tho it was due to the fact she couldn’t pull the mature voice even tho she voiced APHO Bronya) and said she didn’t like that Bronya, lmao.

[@IqroJunio]

3:29 some crack theory i made about march. she could be emanator of rememberance, or atleast has some close connection to Fuli because the ice that she was sealed in looks similar to Fuli's mirror shards, she wakes up not remembering anything, and her hobby is taking pictures(collecting memories)

[@Maevix3142]

In her lore, she even mentions that her 'ice' abilities dont seem like ice to her. March sees them more like crystals which coincidentally is what Fuli appears to be made out of

[@lorenaamade8211]

I think the rating of the gun is more likely to do with the path they are taking vs the characters actual path. For example Sampo should be Elation not Nihility, March should be Remembrace not Perservation, Jingguang shouldn't be Erudition he should be Hunt (story wise). I'm guessing other characters like Clara, for example, her path is Destruction but that path is more Svarog than her, she seems more abundance perhaps ? Susshang isn't sure of what her path is yet since she is just starting her "journey" she is just Hunt because that's the "nation's path" and Bailu is a child, who have to take the job of cure people, so didn't got much of a choice for the moment. That's my theory, sorry if I write any names wrong

[@meteorstarthearcher5350]

What about Loucha? I checked him after watching this video and he has an invalid rating too!

[@nax_aka569]

@@meteorstarthearcher5350 Luocha is sus anyway

[@meteorstarthearcher5350]

@@nax_aka569 I MEAN TRUE

[@diamanten1009]

​@@meteorstarthearcher5350well one theory stats that the aeon of abundance is in his coffin, maybe he is her emanator

[@foxfoxfox6799]

I like this theory! I also think March has a lot more secrets about her origin than it looks like. Her eidolons are also all about memory. The gun can rate the Trailblazer who has a whole ass Stellaron in their body, so I think anything short of that is being a straight up Emanator who has unlimited access to the Imaginary Energy of their Paths. Herta's puppets probably have a different energy source other than their Path which makes them still rate-able.

[@Maevix3142]

The funny thing is that the rating gun could just be a gag and this whole thing might be just a joke by the devs or something. Ive also seen some people suggest that the gun was made by someone who follows the path of elation and its just to troll people 😂

[@markgruner5812]

Dang I didn't even think about the thought that March's hobby of taking pictures is similar to the Garden of Recollections making Light Cones from memories.

[@jhemmuellejenlingatquizon729]

Thats actually a good theory i mean sampo breaking the 4th wall is mind blowing march literally has no past cuz we dont know about it I heard in other few theory that sampo may be aha or follows aha cuz he said in the cutscene to sends regards to the boys and girls in the tavern and aha/s followers were described to be in a tavern but i know as much as u know great theory btw

[@shutup1037]

Masked Fools

[@jasperreyes5174]

His right shoulder guard looks like a mask...

[@catsarecooIl]

yes but everyone keeps ignoring the fact literally right after sampo broke the 4th wall, we have an option to say that sampo was in our dream. meaning that it wasn't even real. especially because we only see the scene when we go to sleep.

[@santiagolopez4763]

@@catsarecooIl Are you saying that Cocolia's dreams were false too?

[@catsarecooIl]

@Kayn let me explain. cocolia visions were presumably there just because our connection to the stellaron as dan heng and other sources stated, not to mention we had those visions while being awake as well. the vision we saw with sampo was only after we slept. im not saying the possibility doesn't exist im just saying that people shouldn't ignore the factor that it could just be a dream and if the idea is that sampo is an emanitor, then why haven't we seen any visions for jing yuan and herta?

[@HuelessVoid]

Meanwhile, Silver Wolf hacks the gun to give her a rating of 110, lol.

[@Maevix3142]

She definitely was rated low and got annoyed 😂

[@erband8454]

Man, I can't wait for when march comes with an alter form and has an ice greatsword

[@Maevix3142]

Interestingly, she does mention that her current weapon, a bow, doesnt feel like the weapon of a heroine. So who knows, you might get what you wish for 😂

[@britishneko3906]

would be fucking funny if she got a yoyo literally just becomes Senadia(Sardine)

[@clarinet800149]

Might also explain March’s immediate dislike for Sampo

[@Moretropes11]

I had theorized that march was an aeon. I mean we know her memories would be very harmful to her if they were to be unlocked and she has a mysterious past. We also don’t know if a aeon has truly died for example Akivili is theorized to be dead, but they could be alive somewhere. She seems to align the most with Idrilla, as she has a love for beauty and photos. (It’s also cool to think that Argenti met the Aeon he loves so much without even realizing it)

[@Alex-rn1zo]

You said that the aeon of remembrance is anywhere a major event happens. If you check march's room and her photos the MC says that many of the photos couldn't have been taken by march and in many of these events she wasn't even there

[@hexyila52]

I think that March is the eminator of remembrance and the reason she can’t remember her past is possibly because in order to become an eminator of remembrance you must first forget. And then later when you need to remember your past you will and that will unlock your powers as an eminator. I also think it’s possible that sampo could be a eminator of elation however it could also be bc the masked fools being so unpredictable that they simply aren’t rateable bc of how unpredictable they are

[@kinrateia]

It also doesn't rate Sushang!! That one is what cracks me.

[@Pixieloka]

Sushang got an score of 34 for me

[@hasnolhadiazmy]

It doesn't work on clara for me

[@felipebraga5159]

Clara Sushang and Bailu get no rating

[@liszst]

No rating is not the same as rating invalid.

[@Ossorakth]

Maybe March 7th is a bad memosnatcher and Fuli imprisoned her for stealing buncha memories, or maybe she's one of those historical fictionologists that got on Fuli's watchlist so she crystalized her Awesome video! Makes you really think. They did an awesome job with the backstory of this game and the plot going forward.

[@sampofools]

a whole video on something thats been on my mind since release? im happily ascending to heaven

[@foreverandonward]

The reason is pretty straight forward for Sampo especially now, he's not a complete being anymore. All Masked Fools who follow Aha are like the Fatui of Teyvat, they give up their identity, their personality, their self. Kunikuzushi died and Scaramouche was born. The artifacts in Genshin go over how it's more of a spiritual process than just a physical one, that they become their rank. From Sparkle's trailer this is seemingly the same but a much more intense degree. While the Fatui still exist, the real people are still there, Tartaglia goes home to his family as Ajax, it seems like the opposite isn't the same for members of the Masked Fools. the statement "I'm just Sparkle" and "My beloved mask, when I'm smiling, you're smiling too" and devolving from there. continuing on until we get to "It's you my beloved mask," to "You're like a mirror, showing my reflection and the one in the mirror, that's Sparkle". and until "I'm not Sparkle, no, I'm Sparkle." Sparkle, whoever she is or was, has undergone a seemingly total death of id and ego and destroyed the original personality of who she as a person was, Sparkle is Sparkle, Sparkle is the Veil, Sparkle is the mask, and she is Sparkle. And it looks like the same thing has happened to Giovani and Sampo, sure they can take off their masks, they can seemingly remove some of that connection to Aha but it doesn't matter, they are no longer themselves. Whoever they were, that person is dead now, they are Sparkle, they are Giovani, they are Sampo. They are whoever and whatever the mask is. And Sampo doesn't have his mask, Sparkle has it. She's seemingly had it since before he touched down on Jarilo-IV and that's why the gun can't read him. He's Sampo, yes, but he's not actually Sampo or he's not the complete Sampo.

[@KyouNoToshokan]

On the other end of the scale SW mentions in the cutscenen the Gun rates from 0-100 she herself gets a rating from over 100.

[@joaosantos-uj9uw]

I'm pretty sure it's from 0-999

[@225Reaver]

It's a particularly electronic voice, too. I've got good odds on Silverwolf having hacked it simply to give herself an unbeatable score.

[@Maevix3142]

I bet she got a low score originally and just got annoyed and hacked it 😂.

[@225Reaver]

@@Maevix3142 My thoughts exactly!

[@JYNX_101]

P.S. the gun doesn't rates any of the xianzhou chars for some reason except 1 or 2

[@Night_Times]

ig becuz most of the charas r blessed with longevity from the aeon of abundance(i think). That would make sense

[@anwarshadaad1553]

I like the idea that an emanator of an aeon doesn't have to follow the path of their aeon.

[@Maevix3142]

Aha has previously made a random worm an emanator (or rather gave it a lot of power) so it seems that there isnt any specific condition for the aeons to bless or share their powers

[@xivering]

@@Maevix3142that was actually hilarious

[@britishneko3906]

​@@xiveringAha: you know what would be fucking funny? a worm as an emenator

[@heenthousiast383]

well, i have a theory that the gun doesn't actuall rate people. for some of the characters, it gives confusingly low scores, and the text even says "it would be a peculiar prank indeed if the gun was actually giving random numbers" or something along those lines. what if the whole point of the gun is that its a joke?

[@kindlingking]

That doesn't actually contradict the theory in the video - the gun gives random numbers on a whim, but when it sees March and Sampo (Sushang too apparently?), it senses something and refuses to cooperate further. Honestly, I hope March gets Dan Heng treatment (if the leak is true).

[@JustMindgame]

@@kindlingking yeah but what if, non rating is also an outcome 😄

[@kindlingking]

@@JustMindgame but why tho? If someone made this thing as a joke, then just generating random numbers is enough, why give the gun a hit of personality and ability to refuse to rate something that it doesn't like? Not to mention it comes out way too often statistically, if there's such a high chance the gun won't rate you at all, then it becomes pretty much pointless.

[@heenthousiast383]

@@kindlingking perhaps the person thought it would be even funnier to see people's confusion upon the gun just refusing to rate them?

[@kindlingking]

@@heenthousiast383 I think in that case most people would just get bored and/or assume the gun is broken and put it away. Which definitely isn't the end result rating gun's creator was aiming for, if their intention was to troll people.

[@jaysonocampo6472]

What if Sampo is Aha all along in disguise and investigating the MC thinking he/she is Akivili The Trailblazer.

[@ahoodedfigure1430]

Aha are multiple entities crammed into one, so he may only be one of them, since he doesn't show any signs of having multiple personalities

[@RePhantomz]

The thing about sampo is his relation to aha.and as we know in lore aha once spend years dusguising as a human to join akivili trailblazer just to ended with a prank that explode some of akivili train and a planet.

[@moonspear]

Black Swan is an Emanator of Fuli the Remembrance, but her rating is 61 (according to the wiki, I don't have Black Swan)

[@unseenvariable4107]

i think the gun does detect emanators with the "invalid" response. recently i had gotten Acheron and it is confirmed that she is a emanator of nihility. after seeing this video i went to check her with the rating gun, and she gotten a invalid score as well.

[@whatever5401]

According to the leaks, Acheron also got "Rating Invalid". +1 point to this theory!

[@nunote2362]

the way the astral express shoots over fuli's neck, what if he's already dead, and all that's left behind is him memory maintaining the path of rememberance.

[@bridgettejasperreyes7567]

Hmm... Like the Eldritch God Azathoth...?

[@nunote2362]

@@bridgettejasperreyes7567 I don't know much about it, so I can't really say.

[@Maevix3142]

Would be pretty fitting that the aeon of remembrance is literally a living memory

[@JimAshouji]

Just found this video and it's intriguing me to try them out. Just realized that Luocha is also can't be detected by the rating gun. But Herta, who is an emanator of Erudition is rated just fine, and get 4.

[@Airlinecuisine]

I just saw this video and i scanned acheron the newest emanator and she also comes up rating invalid, therys turning out very plausible.

[@TheMystenigma]

Well, I can tell you now that Black Swan, supposedly an Emanator of the Remembrance (there is dialogue in a quest that says all Memokeepers are Emanators, though that’s the only proof we have), has a score of 61.

[@ghostlyyyyyy]

I think that MAY be a mistranslation. Iirc they're only referred to as Pathstriders

[@ThiagoOliveira-eb3xz]

at the present Penacony event Black Swan says something about a memokeeper who likes to record their memories on a camera

[@rebbieornot]

honestly, i feel like the idea of them being emanators or somehow related to the aeons would be cool and possible now that we have acheron, who also has an invalid rating my only thing is that herta, who is also an emanator has a rating of 4 points... i wonder if that applies to the real herta, or if it's only because the herta we have is a puppet of the real deal

[@SherloDaDino]

Hm, Sampo being a Wind and Nihilist is something that struck me, Nihilism being Pointless and Meaningless Actions according to the loading screen and Wind being something that Moves Aimlessly going through where others of it lead.. And noting that the Aeon of Nihility is a Image of a Black Hole which shows a "Ring Revolving" and him using Ring Blade Boomerang like Weapon is something to take in consideration

[@bridgettejasperreyes7567]

IX looks like Cocoon of Finality from Honkai Impact 3rd...

[@GustavoSantos-wm6iy]

Hindsight but so far, all emanators have been unratable, excluding one that was a borrowed power emanator.

[@Nexdef]

Watching this video now and Acheron's score is also invalid

[@Maevix3142]

Yeh, I checked immediately after getting acheron 😂

[@thahirshibu5042]

Cant wait for them to release the patg if Elation and just put Sampo in as a 5* quantum elation character

[@MurakamiTenshi]

March constantly taking pictures screams being an emanator of Fuli

[@6q147]

Since the three so far who have received invalid ratings are March, Sampo, and Jingyuan, then the rating system if meaning anything at all, would very likely be based on something related to Aeons/Paths specifically rather than other factors. Seeing as the game is about a journey, and paths are different condensed philosophies, the rating could indicate how close a character is to arriving at a clear personal ideology (sort of like the clarity of path ahead of them from their own perspective)? And characters with no ratings could be ones who are not really concerned with Aeon paths maybe ? in Sushang's case she was pretty unfamiliar with the story between Lan and Yaoshi (she said she didn't really go to school) (I'm probably very wrong lmao)

[@ecenee]

I have an idea for Sambo Maybe he is the same Ion Aha, but he erased his memory and then became involved with the Stelron Hunters Because he loves tricks and trying fun things, and the experience of wiping his memory to see what will happen seems like an exciting experience

[@eliancruzyanez8521]

Sam and Sampo are two different people Just btw

[@ColieSilo]

Maybe she got her power from fuli but had to give her memories and ,after she’ll be a 5 star with full control of the powers and get her memories back

[@mozzapple]

8 months later, and we may finally be able to tell if this theory is true when Acheron releases. (not sure if there's any other emanators besides the ones already listed)

[@itsendy-g2p]

Future 2.0 player here, fun fact, Sampo is a Masked Fool, maybe that has something to do with it

[@justsomeone6588]

5:04 the "unknown nameless" was actually Dan heng

[@Fallensnowch]

It makes sense now why Sampo can’t be rated, because he’s getting his mask back, so he would most likely become a 5 star to save Belobog.

[@shadowdarkangelo]

JingYuan, March and Sampo aren't rateable and with Clara, Bailu and Sushang, the pistol remains silent

[@danidan2174]

bailu is a reincarnated her past form is still unknown, clara probably is an artifical human, and sushang has xuanyuan sword one of divine keys in HI3

[@3ug3n3Gam31ng]

Maybe because they both are emanator. Since Acheron, emanator of nihility can't use this gun too. (Sry 4 my awful Eng TT)

[@jonesOtr]

Fun fact: Acheron also can't be rated by the gun

[@davidkoormann5262]

This conjecture proved true so far since Luocha, an emanation of abundance and Acheron, a self annihilate and emanation of Nihility, also cannot be rated

[@VividPastels]

this is actually quite believable and makes me excited for more lore

[@Maevix3142]

We need more lore!!

[@dh7367]

Im pretty sure Sampo has some connection to the Aeon Aha. Im the sim universe when you encounter it it breaks the fourth wall and knows its in a simulation, just like Sampo at the end of the Belebog story line.

[@cassandrawasright1481]

It's worth noting that "erasing someone's memories" is an established capability of Fuli's followers, specifically the Memosnatchers and Cremators. It's very possible that her past with Fuli or one of those factions wasn't friendly in nature---though, as the Cremators are hostile to the mainstream Garden of Recollection, that wouldn't rule out her being an Emanator of Remembrance.

[@beauteeka3100]

This is a cool theory, but I believe that Herta is an emanator of erudition, and she gets a rating from the gun.

[@ghostlyyyyyy]

The Herta we have is a puppet version

[@hogbeancreamyt5295]

To add another evidence to march, her pictures in her room. If you interact to it just enough to show a dialogue, saying that the pictures taken was during their adventures BUT it is very different for a normal capturing perspective...

[@ahoodedfigure1430]

The photos shown there are from the MC's pov, too

[@mohammadosmanriaz6237]

We will meet Sampo again in Penacony. There was a hint after you complete artherium war 100%. You will find a memory bubble which revealed a secret dialouge between Giovanni and Sampo. Giovanni told Sampo that a certain person was coming to penacony and Sampo actually doesn't like to meet this person again.

[@Maevix3142]

Yup though i take it that because that other person is there and sampo doesnt seem to have a good relationship with her meaning he isnt going to be there but who knows

[@snonyabeeswax]

i have a theory march is possibly blessed by fuli,and fuli sealed march's memories of her past away because something super traumatic happened and march will only regain those memories when shes ready to handle those memories

[@snonyabeeswax]

all signs point to sampo being a Aha follower from what ive seen

[@Maevix3142]

I have a video about that actually, talking about Marchs past and I also think shes related to Fuli in some way

[@kouhouh]

Something I thought about is that the wall photos in March's room. It says some photos were taken by someone else. Maybe Fuli?

[@Yuki-dj5zg]

With Herta being able to be rated, is maybe because the puppet isn't actually Herta? Like it's not her actual body being present to being rated, it's the puppet body that's being rated instead of Herta herself? That way the idea of emanators are unratable could still hold up.

[@Maevix3142]

The character we have (herta) gets a score of 4 if im not mistaken and most suspect its because shes a puppet and not the real body though its just a guess to be honest.

[@Yuki-dj5zg]

@@Maevix3142 Yhea that's what I meant by the comment but I guess I didn't word it correctly enough (that's what 1 hour of sleep will do I guess XD), I'm very curious about what the real Herta looks like though, even if it is just a older version of her puppet form.

[@ESw0rdsman]

The rating Gun is odd - when I first had the trailblazer check it, it said cannot rate, but later it was able to give a number

[@Crowned_Hearts]

Sempo being related to Aha is possible but I think March 7th being connected to Fuli is certain.Not only does she have magical "ice" powers that so far only she has but she doesnt know how she got it either. Everyone else uses normal ice only March uses the six-phased ice. And lets be honest WHO ELSE would be able to freeze someone in a crystal and keep them alive in space for who knows how long. I am certain Fuli has a connection to march.

[@Maevix3142]

March also mentions that she doesnt view her ability as actual ice but rather condensed crystals in her character story. Who else appears to be made of crystal and has ice based simulated universe path? Fuli, though nothings confirmed atm but it is pretty interesting

[@Crowned_Hearts]

@@Maevix3142 I think the hints are pretty obvious. Unless she is SOOO OLD that it was some Aeon that has perished long ago that froze March. I dont know maybe it was an Aeon that had a similar path to Fuli and then got demolished by Fuli because as Kafka said similar paths always collide and the stronger one will absorb the weaker one. Tho this is a little too far fetched sometimes game devs make the hints too obvious to sway us in the wrong direction. So I dont know both are possible but yeah her being connected to Fuli is the most sensible option right now.

[@Igraphi7335]

Fun fact Dan Heng is count by this gun on 93 points. So future theory might be accurate because in 1.3 we got new Dan Heng form.

[@nateandfriends8357]

Yanauing gets 98or99

[@jardejay8804]

As the comments have already mentioned. There is a LOT more to March than meets the eye. She has the ability to take photographs she couldnt possibly have taken. Also she is the only known user of an extremely rare form of ice, linked with an aeon. Fuli might have a part of their soul inside of March or something akin to that. Or March has received Fuli's blessing for some reason. This pink haired girl has a lot more going on than just being a pretty airhead.

[@Maevix3142]

Theres this pretty interesting idea that Fuli is dead but technically lives on as a memory which would be kinda fitting for an aeon of remembrance to be some sentient god like memory and maybe Fuli is literally a memory that exists within March. Its pretty convoluted but pretty cool if it ended up true

[@jasonkusi2373]

My personal theory is that it is like a firefly situation where there are a bunch of march 7 lookalikes behind the masks and the reason march doesn't remember her name is because she was never given one by the aeon

[@callmeandoru2627]

A counter argument is that Herta is an emenator of Nous and she still gets a rating

[@HelloHappyelo]

Not really...?? Since the herta we have right now is just a puppet and not the real one

[@callmeandoru2627]

@@HelloHappyelo That's a good point. Even though you could say that since there's no record of the pistol rating inanimate objects, it's safe to assume that it only rates people and understands that the puppet is a placeholder for the real Herta. I don't know, I'm probably looking way too much into this.

[@Maevix3142]

The herta we have is a puppet, though we might get a 5* version of the real herta in the future who knows

[@MrVhatever]

Samp didnt break the fourth wall from what I recall. He was talking to the main character (in a dream).

[@Maevix3142]

Thats the part that kinda trips me up, on one hand it mentions that hes thanking his audience which I took to be more than a person then the next scene one of MC choices was to comment on sampo appearing in his/her dreams

[@raymonreiz]

Make sense, March is always talking pictures and collecting new memory

[@skygoomysteatime3967]

But woudn't Argenti be frozen too? Hance he literally is a member of the Knights of Beauty, which are a group of followers of the path of Beauty. Just like Sampo and Sparkle are part of the fools, the group that follows the path of Elation.

[@KyleCorbeau]

3:26 No, that would entirely track with Aha to just pick a random dude from nowhere who just happens to embody the meme lifestyle they so deeply enjoy, it would actually be more weird for it to be some prominent person in this case.

[@tigerath4789]

March 7th's eidolons all bring up memories as well, could be a connection to the remembrance

[@Mr.Cheeesse]

One more thing the ice crystals in which march was trapped has resemblance with the crystals in memory of Chaos and forgotten hall Could be a coincidence but who knows

[@Maevix3142]

March references her ice abilities to be closer to crystals instead of ice and why I thought she might be related to the aeon of remembrance whos followers created/run(?) the forgotten hall

[@Astra7Light]

Sampo is now confirmed to be a Masked Fool, but far from an emanator. After Black Swan and Sparkle's story quest, Sampo is seen talking to Sparkle and Sparkle giving Sampo his mask back, which means he lost the title of "Masked Fool" until helping Sparkle, which makes him seems like an unimpressive Masked Fool. The reason the rating gun can't rate Sampo is probably because the Masked Fools are never what they seem and their true identity is mostly hidden

[@Maevix3142]

That makes sense, the rating gun just cant rate them given their rather unstable or chaotic nature. Though it still begs the question of what exactly the rating gun actually rates. Say if it actually rates power levels or something, despite being rather chaotic entities, their true strength wouldnt really change. But again that depends on what the gun actually rates, i just made the assumption in the video its power levels, it could very well be anything even their devotion to an aeon or something

[@clarrk1850]

but sparkle's rating is 55

[@sugarisdown9740]

this is an interesting theory! before i heard about the emanator theory i used to think march wasn't human but instead some celestial being or sth which is why the gun wouldn't rate her

[@Maevix3142]

Shes definitely not normal thats for sure, cant wait to learn more about her past tbh

[@echoes9321]

welp acheron is unratable too so i guess youre right (tho heard there march7th alter gonna be at 3.x)

[@clarrk1850]

sauce alter march?

[@MrHinatainn]

Turns out that Acheron is indeed the emanator of nihility.

[@GachaMofo]

It's probably a social credit score gun (lol). Sanpo is a con so he'd probably try to get himself out of the social credit and March, if the gun registers people on planets but not in the barreness of space, wouldn't get a score.

[@ellishakl9085]

what if sampo was sparkle all along and either the illusion of sampo wasnt rateable or sparkle isnt rateable

[@enpoping]

now u mention it, march 7th room have all the image from unknown angle even no one there before to capturing it, even the MC confused about that, it must be from the memory and aeon "REMEMBRANCE" coincidence i think NOT!!!

[@peace_ful_eyes]

It’s so obvious march is emanator of fuli too many hints picked it up from the start. Sampo theory also makes sense, MC is basically Akivilli and Dan heng might be the dragon king that dissapeared after yaoshi came onto the scene

[@Maevix3142]

Oooh I never considered Dan Heng perhaps being an emanator of the aeon of permanence

[@peace_ful_eyes]

@@Maevix3142 i think he might be when I finished the story and saw the leaks for dan heng i was like wait a sec……

[@RedWolfWindgear]

I feel March is Paimon. I don't know how this happens, but seeing Ice will be the last place we visit in Genshin. May be a hint for the future. Paimon saving the Traveler gets stuck in an ice block and sent away.

[@thea-na]

I created a new account and got Bailu. She received a rating of "71", so her not receiving a score previously might just be a bug. Anyways, M7 is confirmed to be related to at least one Aeon. I'm looking forward to the 5-star SP cards for her, Sampo, and maybe Herta. (Wouldn't it be nice to have grown-up Yanqing too)

[@Maevix3142]

Supposedly theres 2 instances of character not receiving a rating. The first is the text doesnt appear at all like with bailu and sushang which I personally think its a bug. The other is the character receives a text saying invalid rating which are those I assume to be related to aeons since its invalid

[@BenJaded]

What will confirm this is if Acheron cannot be rated either, as we know she is an emanator too

[@DotTiuri]

I think the gun get's confused because those characters are hiding their powers intentional or otherwise. And even the gun cannot see through it.

[@Maevix3142]

Thats certainly possible, most of those characters are hiding their abilities in someway 🤔

[@siubijeni206]

I don't get where your statement that it took Welt, Himeko, and an unknown third nameless a long time to free her came from? March gives a vague statement indicating she thought they'd done something to free her from the ice, but if you talk to Welt and Himeko about it they say they didn't do anything. Just "as soon" as they brought her aboard, the ice melted by itself. The third nameless you state is unknown is also all but stated to be Void Archives. So none of that section is accurate.

[@Maevix3142]

I think I might have misremembered that part, himeko mentioned that it took welt a lot of work to get her back to the express and says that after that the ice melted not long after. So yeah i mixed up the effort welt took to bring her back with melting the ice to free her, thanks for pointing that out

[@rabbits2345]

I think the rating gun will be interesting as we get more characters. I dont think the numbers are random, but we dont have enough sample to really understand the system

[@Maevix3142]

I think at some point they would have to say its a joke, imagine if people took it too seriously and started rating characters just solely from what the gun says 😂