Why the tide isn’t turning against Labour | The News Agents

[@Aarontlondon]

The problem is, you in the media try your best to make it a tumultuous week for the Labour Party, but for normal voters who aren’t politically engaged, getting the Tories out is in their mind, not this noise created by the media.

[@lcg8220]

Also it wasn't particularly tumultuous in the first place, they weren't umming and ahhing over Abbott, they said almost right away she wasn't being blocked but the media kept on bsing about it all week.

[@KernowFishy]

Indeed , it's quite pathetic . As if their obsession with this sent polls the other way.

[@happyChappy96621]

I’m pretty sure this channel, has been absolutely rinsing the Tories. Go back and watch instead of just focusing on one video

[@dwdei8815]

I wish you'd drop this assumption that we're all obsessed with immigration.

[@nakul1966]

How was this story going to overshadowed 14 yrs of failure?

[@tomsyme8282]

Storm in a teacup gleefully cheered on by you lot and the rest of the media

[@Roosterz443]

The Diane Abbott ‘issue’ was never a major thing to any reasonable person. I do find it fascinating that so much of the media manages to cling onto the most menial things when it’s Labour. To real people, no one cares about this issue

[@ikyiky167]

Feels like some kind of hangover from Brexit 'balance' on the BBC. This incessant need to pretend balance comes from having voice heard/ stories from both sides of a debate. Regardless of the quality of insight or relevance.

[@norawright807]

Well said, Sirrah. And this meretricious abomination of a profoundly corrupt Tory government, can do absolutely anything without even being called to account. A tiny caveat here. If Rishi Sunak was filmed strangling newborn puppies, this perhaps might deter the gutter press from crusading the abhorrence that is this 14 year old Tory shitshow.

[@nuigulumarZ]

The big question here is why the media tried to turn this into such a big story. It was such a "Westminster Bubble" story - if you managed to look past the wall to wall headlines you would have noticed a complete absence of anybody else talking about it at all.

[@joetrent4753]

Exactly. People worrying about putting food on the table very likely couldn’t care less about this non-story, especially now as Diane is still a Labour MP and standing at the next election.

[@norawright807]

The object of this farrago of nonsense was to deflect attention away from the detritus that is the UK's Tory abomination of a profoundly corrupt government.

[@norawright807]

Just saying.

[@TheDaveCalaz]

I cannot begin to tell you how little people actually care about the Diane Abbot stuff. The media made this such a huge issue, nothing else.

[@patcampton7163]

I dont agree. Anyone who is involved or interested in politics was pretty appalled by labour's treatment of Abbot.

[@andrewcarson5850]

Why bother putting up numbers and suchlike? The world changes fast, and in unpredictable ways. All the media want is a stick to beat them with, and easy headlines to sell to their readership. Grown up politics is needed in this crumbling society, a grown up media would help us get there.

[@t.p.mckenna]

I would be very interested to see an audit of all the new trade deals, because it seems fairly evident that they were bought with massive bundles of visas. Generally, I don't think any of the deals did many favours for Britain. They were negotiated in such haste as trophies for Boris Johnson.

[@garyhills2336]

I do not care about Abbot, I am sick to death of it being about her! It is not about one MP, it's about the nation and in my book the nation always comes first! I have met her and I found her arrogant and self-important! I think she should stand down, she has been an MP for 35 years in the same seat! There has to be a cut-off point as new thinking and leadership are needed to ensure democracy is renewed! No seat for any party should ever be for life! We need to get back to people elected is a privilege to serve constituents! I get the need for some balance in Labour ranks as yes Keir needs to be challenged, Yet, what is the point if it is Abbot or Corbyn? They oppose everything, they never had anything positive to say of Labour on anything! To me that is no democracy, that is not challenging issues, that is just moaning! And that's all I ever hear Abbot say! I spent 40 years in Labour Politics, working at every level, Labour HQ, and Labour Ministers and I was tribal, I stopped when Corbyn came in and then enabled Brexit and I am no Keir fan at all!. I am Centre Left, however and should be a natural for Keir! But despite me being a total Remain Rejoiner I want Labour to win! And I really do not care about silly stories about Abbot, that won't stop the massive harm the Tories have caused!

[@ravindra7791]

Net migration will fall automatically due to reduction in one off factors like Hong Kong and Ukraine. It will not be trivial amount either. Also some impact from spouses of students

[@UKprl]

Addressing the wording of the question. There has been an expectation that the polling gap must close as we approach polling day. However, there's a common fallacy around regression towards the mean, whereby if the things you are measuring start returning towards their historically average figures, that does not necessarily mean either side is doing anything right or causing it. The same goes for when inflation or fuel or wholesale energy prices fall after being unusually high compared with historical years. The government of the day can rarely be credited with anything resuming its normal path and the same will go for Labour if the regulation of monopolies or the illusion of competition on franchises is not overhauled.

[@UKprl]

The gap may well close but it is by no means inevitable or within a time frame that matters before the first postal votes are sent out either, by when parties already need to have solidified any gains.

[@juanitoingles9853]

A lot of this analysis is very naive. Once Starmer is in power, if he gets there, he doesn't need to worry, in the short term, about 'frightening the horses' and he can get down to government. The focus can be completely different. if he does it well, he will reap the rewards. If not, he might only get one term. Give the electorate some credit to interpret the outcomes with intelligence, not on the basis of your ridiculous 'well, if she does it by one, she can argue it's a success'.

[@GRB-tj6uj]

The main challenge for the Starmer is going to be from his left, the conservatives will spend years regrouping. The only question is who's going to fill that space: the labour left, the greens, the libdems or a new party.

[@nichemphill8321]

The Tories don't know who they are, they have splintered, and they won't regroup how you think, because they have forgotten who they are

[@hoztravels2024]

"Worst week ever", pathetic

[@mikeanson9658]

Can someone tell me how many times Di has the dropped the ball. I have been a labour voter since I could vote and keep an eye on it. Apart from the leaders I don’t think there’s been a MP who has dropped the ball as many times as Di. Is it actually about time she stepped away.

[@vincehammond1282]

Which Doors is VA knocking at and is there half a mile between each door ? 🤔

[@DouglasBarr-q5i]

You can tell they just dont want a labour government

[@Kelsyg]

Agents are running out of steam take a break. Not in tune with public

[@norawright807]

Lewis Goodall is quite the diva.

[@peterfox2538]

Vote Reform.

[@carolkelly5578]

Why has Emily got handcuffs on her wall? 🤣

[@wmurray689]

'3 of the UK'S top journalists' is the funniest thing I've heard all year'.

[@marksimons8861]

"Everything's coming up roses"

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

It was never likely that Diane would accept a peerage. Lewis is a bit naive there.

[@TrevorBarre]

Oh yeah? Let'see, shall we?

[@FranzBieberkopf]

@@TrevorBarre I agree-give it a few years.

[@flowsetter]

Nice jumper Emily.

[@chriselliott726]

I like the New Agents, but this is a poor opener. It really was not a 'bad week' for Labour and you are trying to make something out of not very much at all. Ultimately the wider electorate dont give a flying **** about Diane Abbot.

[@mochan8447]

When Lewis says it’s been a “week” you can tell he’s from Birmingham :)

[@joelenzi6985]

The News Agents are pretty hopeless.

[@carolstimpson3799]

Must admit, I’m going off them.

[@boogaloo4640]

Weren't they at George Osborne's wedding? Could explain a few things

[@ryangrange938]

If I don't vote for labour it will be because they won't talk about Brexit

[@JMK948]

5:32 - 5:35: Hahahaha!

[@davidjon9391]

Because nobody give an F about Abbott !!

[@g-r-a-e-m-e-]

That is clearly untrue.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

​@@g-r-a-e-m-e-apart from her constituents.

[@ryanpullen3412]

I'm convinced that this was planned by labour tbh, if your asking questions people don't care about you aren't asking the questions people actually want answered

[@channelsixtyeight068_]

_Why the tide isn’t turning against Laboureir_ - Despite the Corbynista Left doing their best for the Tories.

[@TrevorBarre]

See little weasil Owen Jones.

[@williama-d6]

strange LBC clip Louis

[@scottmcginn2169]

Both parties are locked in this battle over reducing immigration. We don't need to reduce immigration, we need to get better at processing requests so that we can address skill shortages. Starmer has talked about recruiting more nurses, where is he planning on getting them, the nurse factory? We need immigration, we need to get better at processing requests. The demonisation of immigrants from both sides is just blatant populist BS, making a scapegoat out of people to cover up their own failings.

[@kerrynewnham8946]

Diane Abbott is standing and said she would not go in the lords , even if she was offered , which she claims she was not. It is great she is standing vs some shipped in Blairite and I think that all this talk about gently easing her into retirement has been extremely patronising

[@alexanders7569]

A net migration figure is not useful. We need a sustainable downward trend

[@helenwratten6470]

I'm confused. I live in a staunch Tory area. I usually vote green. If I vote tactically do I/we risk letting the Tories back in via the backdoor?

[@danielw.2442]

If you're willing to vote tactically, then use StopTheTories.Vote to pick the best chance :) #ZeroSeats

[@boogaloo4640]

Vote for whichever party is most likely to unseat the Tory. Probably not the Green candidate. Who came second in 2019?

[@helenwratten6470]

Labour

[@davecross4493]

​@@helenwratten6470go on the stop the Tories .vote site to find out

[@spooony2714]

Look who came second, look at the betting odds for your area and then vote whoever is best placed to beat the Tory (probably Labour).

[@peterdollins3610]

You are so full of the brown stuff if you're not very careful you might drown in it.

[@M2Mil7er]

The doorstep begs to differ.

[@boogaloo4640]

In what respect?

[@leeyoung9469]

If she does go to the Lords, shame on all including her.

[@TrevorBarre]

?????

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

Is that is why he's such a tool?

[@charliemoore2551]

You're all assuming that Labour's lead over the Tories tells the whole story - as in 1992, in fact.

[@macelven]

Abbott stated yesterday she will run. And that she'd never been offered, nor would accept, a seat in the Lords. When was this recorded?

[@Nice0n3]

Think its just on weekdays. So this would be sometime on Friday... gets posted to YT with delay. So in most cases its outdated if things move quicly, as they have now.

[@vomgrady]

I think they said Sunday at the beginning

[@hardy_har]

2 minutes into the video, love.

[@spooony2714]

You are too inside baseball. No one cares about the Diane Abbot drama, it was such a nonstory.

[@vomgrady]

She is fantastic MP for Hackney and would be deeply missed. She would also do a fantastic service in the Lords. How long she would be in the Lords is then up to Labour with their possible total reform of that house.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Fantastic? Why did she say it was unacceptable for Finnish nurses to care for black Hackney residents?

[@FranzBieberkopf]

@@stephfoxwell4620 Partially stupidity, mainly as she's only ever cared about Diane Abbott, not the Labour Party. Still, Starmer will be happy-Abbott will be a Labour member. Corbyn and Galloway (if they win-big if) will be even more isolated on the backbenches. Abbott is 70 and has type 2 diabetes-I think she'd be better off in terms of her health in the H of L.

[@wrzlygummidge]

Bit narrow and snarky on your R Reeves comments. But hey, you're "journos" so need a number rather than a plan. Expected more from you

[@reginaldamoah8608]

This is a bit out of date

[@norawright807]

Just Lewis Goodall being incredibly pretentious. Again.

[@JohnSmith-vg6hb]

Emilybot 3000

[@juanitoingles9853]

Perhaps the decision (properly the responsibility of the NEC) was brought forward following discussion between Keir Starmer and NEC members, in order to try to squash all the speculation, fuelled irresponsibly by the BBC (and you) and limit damage. Why do you always, rather arrogantly, assume that your hypothesis is correct, when you often have little idea what has gone on behind the scenes.

[@stevebell6057]

Call themselves ‘The News Agents’ - but are way behind on the news. May as well buy an old-fashioned newspaper.

[@joetrent4753]

It’s brought out as a podcast first and then uploaded to KZbin a day later. The latest Podcast episode is about Farage.

[@kayess2634]

@@joetrent4753good to know, thanks.

[@jeanmyers1787]

I’ve been told that Kier Starmer in his previous life as a barrister took Labour Party to court demanding illegal immigrants get benefits. He won the case thus making U.K. so attractive. Is this actually true?

[@johnchristmas7522]

yes

[@JBils41]

One assumes you mean ‘asylum seekers’ as there is no such legal status as ‘illegal immigrant’… Asylum seekers are excluded from most benefits… they do get asylum benefit which is just under £50 a week…

[@jedjones9047]

Why would anyone vote labour they've got nothing' apart from they aren't the tories' vote reform 😊

[@BCJ1985]

Get stuffed

[@TrevorBarre]

@@BCJ1985 Wot? And vote Farage in Clapted Out on Swill?

[@jackn4853]

What are Reform's policies on health, defence, housing, education, transport, law and order, social care etc. etc. Stopping "illegal" immigration is a bit of a one trick pony isn't it.

[@BCJ1985]

​@@TrevorBarreWhy have you replied to me, I'm not praising Fartage.

[@BHJBHJ424]

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