Why the UK is Doomed After Brexit

[@kennethblaabjergfog2197]

Before Brexit there also was a lot of discussion in Denmark weather or not we should leave the EU as well. But after Brexit, no one talks about it anymore.

[@popscratchie3985]

Had it not been for the Northern Ireland problem, things would have gone much smoother.

[@matthewbranagh746]

Very wise the amount of issues even taking away the NI issue is ridiculous.

[@popscratchie3985]

@@matthewbranagh746 perhaps if our government hadn’t continually lied to and ignored the British working class (and I’m talking about all parties) when they finally had a chance to be heard, when their views actually made a difference, they might have made a better choice.

[@matthewbranagh746]

@@popscratchie3985 Agreed, but they have lied the entire time remember the money that was to go to the NHS, the 'Oven ready deal', the supposed control over borders and the economy, the signs it was to fail were glaringly obvious from the start. The most insulting part is the constant parties who attempt to blame Europe we willing locked ourself on the island and burnt the bridges we don't get to blame Europe for allowing us to distance ourselves. Thank god the previous president didn't last or we would be eating chlorinated chicken.

[@ath3lwulf533]

@@popscratchie3985 Its a manufactured problem no one making a fuss with Gibraltar

[@eziolua11]

UK: "But we had an Empire." Spain: "Don't worry, you'll get over it."

[@deadaccount2048]

😂😂😂

[@chinchulin1744]

@@davis7099 Multicultur4lism is nothing to be proud of, in fact it is destroying your country

[@finneogan]

@@davis7099 While that is true (and the multicultural heritage of the Empire was a strong point in favour of the UK not just culturally but also economically), chauvinistic "rule the waves!" nostalgia very much _was_ a talking point of the reactionary press from the Mail to the Telegraph. And for whatever weird reason, people in the country that once had the best and now arguably has the worst press in the world are massively influenced by it, whether they realise it or not.

[@damianbutterworth2434]

An EU Empire??

[@jetpigeon8758]

@@davis7099 Yes indeed something to be proud of, and of course the Brits helped to end slavery.

[@7thsealord888]

Remember hearing a comment at the time - that the Brexit mindset was like going into a divorce expecting to keep the house, the car AND the bank account, while the ex keeps the mortgage and the credit card debt. Yep, sounds like that assessment was spot on.

[@JessicaMiller-pc4dj]

Ooh ,I like this analogy.

[@moore_seh]

Very true. They wanted all the privileges that come with the EU but not paying for it.

[@edpoletto8048]

2016 was a year of weirdness. So much global political divide and irrational thoughts took to the stage with American politics and Brexit grabbing the headlines. Brexit from the outside seemed clearly a disaster in the making. Time has proven it to be correct. All scales of economy indicate a stronger trading relationship benefits any and all countries but this was ignored by the British populace.Back peddling is an option that should be considered. Britain together is stronger,better and keeps the future more promising.

[@edpoletto8048]

This analogy should of made the ballot.

[@prabuddhaghosh7022]

Should have filed in a california court. They just might have got what they want.

[@wernersgaminglounge5235]

The fatal mistake of many Britons was to think they still were this global power, the huge empire they once were and somehow thinking they would be better off alone.

[@joanandreanoweyland57]

Yeah, it's called exceptionalism. In fact, that's the key to the whole Brexit case. Exceptionalism and racism.

[@mihlayonke]

@@joanandreanoweyland57 In South Africa, Cape Town (with most white people of SA) is calling for "X-it" to break away from the whole country, they say they want to be a fully independent country, they even created a petition website.

[@SeanWinters]

No, they're real problem was thinking that they could convince their politicians to stop allowing illegals in. The Brits obviously did not realize that they're politicians wanted to see London turn into londonistan

[@JeroenJA]

@@joanandreanoweyland57 and what else is exceptionalism then pretenting the britisch empire times could return... what anyone with common sense should now could not come back..

[@JeroenJA]

@@arisnotheles since the vote, a lot of UK expats that lived for years in europe , suddenly felt a need to nationalise :), hundrends applied for a belgian passport in Brussels, why... cause they understood very wel brexit could ONLY mean a lot less easy border crossing.. if we can keep a EU passport, lets do that, several UK polician in EU parlement did go for double nationality, i though even some that DID campaign for brexit!

[@pharmesq]

If the UK rejoined the EU, they would almost certainly lose their exemption that let them keep the Pound Sterling. That alone might keep them out for much longer than polls might suggest.

[@SpectacularDisaster]

Given that Russia's economy is growing faster than the UK, the Brits might bite the bullet on that

[@maxdavis7722]

@@SpectacularDisaster nah they won’t. Also Russia’s economy has a lot of room to grow.

[@SpectacularDisaster]

@@maxdavis7722 When you're at rock bottom their is always room to grow

[@Korschtal]

In theory, but so should any new member. In practice they can delay it indefinitely. A Polish politician once said "Poland is six years from adopting the Euro, and it always will be."

[@maxdavis7722]

@@Korschtal the EU will probably force any new states to adopt the euro.

[@tazy97]

I’m surprised that they didn’t say one of the biggest reasons Scotland voted to stay in the UK. The biggest reason Scotland stayed was because they wanted to stay in the EU. It would have taken years for them to get back in so they stayed. Little did they know.

[@forsagebone]

Oh that is unfortunate

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

It wasn't one of it was literally the sole reason the stay vote won in 2014 because people were fear mongering that they wouldn't get back in the EU even tho we could have perfectly solved that problem very easily

[@Ok_yes_its_me]

Scots' support for independence has stayed around 45% for the last 8 years.

[@nickcastings1568]

So Scotland are just where they would have been anyway… oooops.

[@bombyvonbomberson3285]

@@nickcastings1568 The issue was the Leave camp at the time was spinning the threat of Spain refusing Scotland EU membership. Amongst a lot of other promises that the Tories broke under the agreement if Scotland chose to stay. If Scotland had chosen to go, it would have likely been through the application process and re-joined by the time the UK had left the EU. Which then would have made any sort of Brexit deal as stands even harder since there would be 2 land boarders with the EU, which goes against the hard leavers wishes. Why the NI boarder agreement took so long, on top of the delicate situation that NI is in anyway on top of that.

[@timlamiam]

I was in University in the UK a year before Brexit. My EU Law professor was adamant that the only way Brexit would work was if the UK compromised and agreed to all EU regulations until they could each be negotiated separately, a process which would take decades. The fact that the Tories snubbed that idea and shut the whole thing down is why there is economic and judicial chaos.

[@nick.v.g]

Exactly that. Both where so intertwined that just graping a sissor and cut it self out would meen you destroy wat you have build. Slowly pul treat by treat wouldn't do so much harm and then there was a way to keep some intact. There are literally thousands laws and treaties within the EU from small to verry big ones. To have them all salved and renegotiate at ones is just wishful thinking As a Dutch person I felt sad they did what they did because both have a lot in common. And have the same norms and values

[@jacobcohen9205]

Did it ever occur to you that what your 'EU' professor was adamant about did not constitute an 'exit' from the EU? Suppose there is economic chaos here in the UK with a growing economy albeit slow growth. What then would you call the situation in the Eurozone which is in recession and has double the unemployment of the United Kingdom? 'judicial' chaos' such as? I'll wait.

[@jiritichy7967]

Did UK exists before EU?

[@gangleweed]

@@jacobcohen9205 Mybe Brexit will be a blessing in disguise.....all of those hangers on that flooded in will now be exiting to the continent once again.....the wheel will turn fully.

[@jacobcohen9205]

@@jiritichy7967 The United Kingdom is over three hundred years old. The EU is less than thirty years old. You're welcome.

[@kevinathans4191]

The problem with Democracy is that sometimes people make the wrong decision...

[@cacwgm]

By definition, all the time - according to the minority.

[@kevinathans4191]

@@cacwgm Nah, sometimes the minority is with the majority.

[@commiebastard3633]

The problem with democracy is that it is very easily corrupted. You just buy the Main Stream Media, and mix it with poor education, and bingo! People who've never been taught critical thinking will all vote for you through fear based logic.

[@NewerSwagger-gp3hj]

60 million people CAN Indeed bé wrong.

[@jasonkingshott2971]

Exactly, that is why the EU electorate is not allowed to vote for their president similar to the Chinese system.

[@glike2]

Billionaires who benefited from brexit will never have to worry about food prices

[@dreamingflurry2729]

I doubt they did profit! Their companies (or investments) are hit by this as well!

[@alastairwallace6153]

​@@dreamingflurry2729 offshore accounts.

[@dudeatx]

@@alastairwallace6153 How did Brexit benefit offshore accounts? They have always been there.

[@1stfloorguy59]

@@dreamingflurry2729 well they are already rich so they really won't care. About food prices that is

[@badda_boom8017]

Food prices are not from Brexit. If that were the case, then Brexit is responsible for a global food price hike.

[@brendanwalsh9829]

How did people ever think that leaving one of the world's big trading groups twenty miles from your front door was a good idea?

[@skyblazeeterno]

Because people believe GB was popping up European countries and that we have always stood on our own 2 feet and never has had to import food

[@AV-fo5de]

@@skyblazeeterno No, it was the people of England who thought that. Scotland and Wales want to stand alone, but Westymoinster will NOT allow it. I wonder why - (Electric, gas, fresh water, forestry, oil , multi billion exports which have to be counted as UK exports. Finally, that Scotland's taxes and total income has to go directly to Westminster which then allows Scotland to receive much less than half back for all of its expenses.)

[@doniramdoni3884]

@@AV-fo5de Scotland Wales ni doesnt exist

[@zeyadsaeed9580]

@@doniramdoni3884 ah yes, all of britain is english and english alone. Totally not colonization.

[@ozanerzos5774]

prawn chips.

[@paulfitzpatrick1334]

As an EU citizen, I wouldn't go to the UK anymore - France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany, Austria are much much better options with none of the BS

[@lamichka]

same

[@thomasbisschoff7136]

Your choice! Enjoy!

[@lamichka]

@@thomasbisschoff7136 Itally was realy nice yesterday and hey... no VISA :D

[@MetalBansheeX]

@lamichka freedom of movement within the EU is the best thing ever

[@Peppercorn102]

I don't blame you for not coming here! I don't wanna be here either!

[@balls9420]

I live in one of the poorest areas in the UK and Europe. Brexit has been an absolute disaster for us, most of us can barely afford everything we need. Which is a separate area from England that everyone forgets about.

[@Fastnet72]

Really feel for you mate, a disaster for most and a windfall for the wealthy as they are all set up in the EU now anyway.

[@buildingabout3505]

Strange... Since mostly poor areas voted in favour of brexit. Hull , stoke on trent , Sunderland etc

[@Fastnet72]

@@buildingabout3505 Yeah easy targets for Farage, Rees Mogg and the likes, those in the top circle used it as a financial windfall. Fool the working class again by playing the take back control we were once an empire and can be great again brigade. Well as is clear the poor areas are the ones that are suffering the most.

[@GCS88]

@@buildingabout3505 Yes maybe its a coincidence that people from poorer areas and the less educated seemed to have voted to leave, strange that...

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@buildingabout3505 yeah the poorest areas felt the hardest for the Brexit lies - go figure - I mean thats not a surprise is it?

[@aes1373]

I remember there was alot of other EU nations thinking of their own Brexit, like Denmark, France, Poland and Hungary. But now looking at the UK, their all very quiet.

[@marcelocipriani308]

Same in Italy 🇮🇹 all those EU separatists have disappeared.

[@neinne6693]

Yeah well, because hearing that cutting your own Foot off is bad and seeing its effect are 2 different things.

[@patrickcardon1643]

United you stand, divided you fall ... if ever there needs to be another way to describe it, it would be "brexit"

[@ixlnxs]

The countries weren't thinking of it, fringe politicians looking for a niche market were, hoping to win 5 or 10% of the vote and join a coalition government. Now they'd get 1 or 2% tops.

[@guydreamr]

If Hungary left it would be called Hexit, which would be quite an apt term, actually.

[@milney]

One neglected detail is that the EU spends its funding from member states on poor areas within the bloc, not just on poorer countries. The UK's wealth is very centralised leaving some areas in the North and Southwest as the poorest in Northern Europe, these areas received funding from the EU which has been slashed since Brexit, for example Cornwall was to receive 100 million pounds per year in EU funding but post-Brexit will only get 44 million per year from the UK government

[@aletheia358]

That's an internal political problem though. One which Labour will presumably remedy when they're in government next year. But it's something we can do for ourselves. It's not necessary to yoke ourselves to Brussels to achieve this.

[@milney]

It's a problem that the UK government is now less equipped to rectify given the massive hole brexit has blown in its tax revenues even if some hypothetical future administration is willing to try

[@MrAvant123]

This isnt the fault of Brexit though

[@newbris]

I think some conservatives were motivated to exit the EU because of this redistribution to poorer parts of the UK. They then convinced those same people to vote for it.

[@jonsimmons4150]

it was UK money sent to brusseles, repacked with a EU sticker on it then sent back to cornwall

[@moshemizrahi1133]

As a Brit living in the EU, Brexit has ruined my life 😔

[@YOYO-xy3yg]

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[@kasegiyabu5030]

How? The Agreement forces EU nations to treat Brits living in Europe as they would be if UK had remained.

[@elipotter369]

​@@kasegiyabu5030I don't think so. They were given a window to apply for stuff like staying and driver's licences, but many chose to ignore it as they thought they were too special, and now don't have the money to be allowed to stay.

[@paulanderson3709]

......then why don't you do the honest thing and become a citizen of wherever it is that you live.

[@moshemizrahi1133]

@@paulanderson3709 still years to come. If I could I would do it in the blink of an eye.

[@nozhki-busha]

Brexit is the worst decision my country has ever made in living memory.

[@Fearghas999]

Lol, not even close

[@GCS88]

Atleast maybe in the next few year You can live in the same dimension as Your vault boy pp.

[@POKENAR]

I distinctly remember a tagline being that "We'll be able to negotiate on *our* terms", so brexit always rang as an overinflated ego in my mind.

[@Ranger1PresentsVirtualRealms]

Being fed up with paying everyone else's expenses and having little or no say in it is NOT a sign of an overinflated ego.

[@GLYDR]

@@Ranger1PresentsVirtualRealms Who's expenses did you have to pay for?

[@EliasBac]

@@Ranger1PresentsVirtualRealms still the same old song eh ? But now the lyrics please ! How did the UK “pay for everyone’s expenses and had nothing in return ? Did you watch the video or did you just hear “more money for the NHS” again ?

[@dfjab]

@@Ranger1PresentsVirtualRealms Fed up with what? I mean you are paying for it now but you weren't before, but I guess a big red bus does make a good arguement /s

[@caliph20]

That's sovereignty for you. "I don't want you to negotiate for me unless I ask"

[@mariuspuiu9555]

I doubt tourism in the UK will ever recover to pre-brexit levels. It's just much easier to go to another country in the EU.

[@aaronsmall1394]

So being apart of a big government including 2 big governments when you count parliament and the second being the EU was better if that's the case thank God I live in America where there's only one government and we can handle it except for our president right now apparently

[@mariuspuiu9555]

@@aaronsmall1394 the EU isn't a government as you describe it. and yes, it was much better than what Brexit has done. in the end Brexit was all about how much BS the old people could eat. These people managed to f the younger generation which massively voted in favour of the EU (because they are much better informed and didn't eat all of the lies written on large banners).

[@imac-hunt]

All Uk hotels are filled up with economic migrants No room for tourists

[@2011e92M3]

@@aaronsmall1394 Yeah, let’s not forget the previous president cheered this BREXIT nonsense on. But don’t worry, as soon as we chase away all of our immigration we’re going to be in the same boat as these clowns. Mark my words, remember this comment because I can guarantee you we’re about to experience the same decline because we share the same belief that immigration is destroying our country which also was deeply rooted in their decision to BREXIT.

[@mikatu]

Except that the UK was never part of Schengen, therefore the tourism remains exactly the same, you still need to show your passport when you want to enter the country!

[@0atheist]

"the EU enforced rules on sustainable fishing" 10 seconds later: "fisherman will fish less because of a lack of access to the single market"

[@daniellarge9784]

That and the fact they sold their licences to overseas companies. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

[@cacwgm]

Actually, neither is true. The UK was prevented from declaring marine parks, as well as controlling the catch size, because these were powers reserved for the EU. The UK has already acted on this. UK fisherman are already landing record catches in some areas, because the UK now has a greater percentage of the fishing rights in UK waters. This will take some years to be 100% under UK control, but it has already started.

[@davidpalk5010]

@@cacwgm So a bit more control of fishing - an economic sector smaller than theatre for goodness sake - was worth all the negatives? And when you've caught those fish, exporting them is now far more difficult. Brilliant...

[@cacwgm]

@@davidpalk5010 It's obviously not an exhaustive list: just enough to give the lie to the 'EVERYTHING is 100% trashed post-BREXIT' line so much of the media is currently pushing.

[@Uchihasasuk5]

@@davidpalk5010 grateful that you have the ability of long term thinking and foresight. The people who voted for Brexit do not. It’s about how much can I drain for myself in this very instant for these kind of folks

[@geerliglecluse5297]

Correction: passport checks between the UK and the rest of the EU were NEVER skipped while the UK was still in the EU. That's part of the Schengen treaty and has nothing to do with the EU. In fact, there are several non-EU members of the Schengen treaty, like Norway, Swiss, Iceland and more.

[@Anonymous-df8it]

Why wasn't the UK part of Schengen?

[@geerliglecluse5297]

@@Anonymous-df8it Unfounded fears over (illegal) immigration, I guess.

[@cacwgm]

@@Anonymous-df8it because the UK wanted to control its borders

[@kasegiyabu5030]

@@Anonymous-df8it UK saw the very real problems with open borders, as the migrant catastrophe has exposed. It refused to be part of it, as control over borders is a fundamental part of a nation's security.

[@marksimons8861]

@@Anonymous-df8it Mrs Thatcher didn't like it.

[@Maldanil]

Another issue with the universities is that until Brexit, EU students would not have to pay enormous fees to study. Now it's almost impossible for most people. I was accepted at all of the UK unis I applied to but just couldn't afford them.

[@starfthegreat]

Some unis like King's College are even opening campuses in EU countries to avoid the problem you mentioned

[@dudeatx]

Nothing to do with Brexit.

[@Tommyleini]

Yeah for example a bachelor degree Before Brexit for EU/EEA/Swiss Students, Tuition Fees: £9,250 Help from UK government: Tuition Fee Loan covering the tuition fees, and maintenance loan if in UK for 3 years, covering rent, food, basics After Brexit: Tuition fees usually double, for example £19,500 Help from UK government: Nothing

[@gloin10]

@@dudeatx "Nothing to do with Brexit"? POST-Brixit, this has EVERYTHING "...to do with Brexit."

[@ric1003]

​@@dudeatx it's that kind of ignorance that led to the Brexit vote in the first place

[@Ag-qr6ii]

Grown up in London and to watch my country decline with my own eyes is so sad

[@JPA65]

You’re in London. That’s why.

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

great kgb ratPutin work like trøn

[@funveeable]

Actually it would be even worse if you were still in the EU. You would be watching your government sending its wealth to the rest of the continent.

[@curezilla]

Try America my friend. It's ridiculous here right now.

[@WooshbangES]

I feel exactly the same way, the Tories sold all the racists and nationalists a bag of lies and they all ran to vote for brexit now they struggle to put food on their tables .

[@onenote6619]

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter". The main problem was that those in favour of Brexit were never seriously challenged in their lies by the media or those opposed to Brexit.

[@blanne9628]

There is no doubt whatsoever that the EU commission has moved from a trading union to a political union over many decades, and their power over member states' laws and policies has and will continue to grow.

[@franciscouderq1100]

Indeed a major fact

[@franciscouderq1100]

@@blanne9628in line with the treaty of Rome, no surprise here.

[@KrissFliss]

Edmund Burke Quote “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

[@mahadaalvi]

People really don’t learn from history. What happened to the first ever democracy? “In 323 BC after news of the death of Alexander the Great reached Athens, the city was eager to get revenge on their bitter Macedonian rivals. Phocion (an admirer of Socrates who had served Athens for more than 50 years as a famous politician and general) tried to warn the people that while Alexander was dead, the army he commanded was still very much alive. But Phocion was outvoted and Athens started a war with the world's sole superpower. Then, after being decimated in battle, the Athenians begged Phocion to lead the surrender negotiations fearing that the Macedonians would destroy the city. Phocion managed to save Athens, but at the cost of the city's freedom. Athens was placed under direct Macedonian control and the famed democracy of Ancient Greece vanished forever.“

[@jasonorourke1787]

I’m so glad I’m Irish. I live on this windy island of the United Kingdom and everything is rediculously high price wise. I just want Ireland to become united. I can leave and work anywhere at anytime but for those who didn’t want Brexit and didn’t vote it’s unfair for everyone who has lost their rights to live and work in EU and membership rights.

[@Uchihasasuk5]

Good for you Jason. So many years of Ireland being the underdog. Now y’all get the longer end of the stick 👏

[@maskellmaolseachlainn6347]

I'm assuming you mean the northwest of Ireland (i.e. six of Ulster's counties)

[@warwickbartlett9930]

I am also glad you are Irish

[@britishpatriot7386]

​@@Uchihasasuk5dream on soy boy 😂😂😂

[@roberttewnion1690]

I wish Scotland was in Ireland position in this regard, the government in its own country has jurisdiction over everything, what a novel idea!

[@allanmcinnes4765]

As a Scottish citizen from from birth in Edinburgh it's now obvious that Brexit was a disastrous mistake for the UK precipitated by misinformation and unfulfilled promises. The Ruling Class might also regret in great measure condemning the UK to a slow death in terms of economical and international political power. I rest my case.

[@edpoletto8048]

Britain would be in a better position in the EU and the EU would benefit with Britain as a member.

[@gerardflynn3899]

Saor Alba

[@joanandreanoweyland57]

The Ruling Class never regrets anything. They're above the mere mortals. That said, are you family with the McInnes writer of 'Absolute Beginners' fame? Such a fantastic novel.

[@FutureMan420Blazer]

Word. I think The UK is gonna fall apart sooner or later with you guys leaving first

[@JeroenJA]

as a belgian, it was clearly extreme unfair espicially to the scots.. the stay in UK vote, had as biggest argument that scotland would remain in the EU that way, without uncertain times trying to apply as new EU state.. witch would have been bothersome too, cause countries like Spain make it clear they don't want to accept countries that sepperated from a bigger EU country, cause of their catalonia situation.. but now... UK is already out, so scotland joining on it's own would pose less resistance.. so actually, Brexit made a future track for an independent scotland actually a lot better!

[@watchlover7750]

I used to buy a lot of stuff from uk via e-commerce but the customs fees are now so high that I prefer buying from east Asia

[@uweinhamburg]

Same for me in Germany - delivery time from Shenzhen in China is shorter now than from Liverpool also. The UK has thrown a lot of sand in their own gears...

[@jurgenkoks9142]

I used to order everything from UK and now I order everything from Germany, greetz from Estonia

[@sioioos]

@@uweinhamburg Or...ask yourself why your own nation has made it easier to import from China than the UK?

[@uweinhamburg]

@@sioioos One side's imports are the other side's exports! Nothing has changed in the economic relation China - Germany! Did anything you know of happen in the relation UK - Germany?

[@collared]

@@sioioos its easier because china sends stuff as a "letter" rather than package. when you check your tracking code, it'll say shipment type is "Shipment type: Small packet/letter" letters and "proper" packages go through different channels in customs. so you're likely to pay less in import fees if it arrived as a letter, lol

[@julianhall2008]

The main point of Brexit was for the Wealthy to avoid paying their tax , stashed in off shore accounts, new eu laws would have meant those accounts having to be declared.

[@sleepyearth]

Mr Dyson in mind anyone? He advocated for leave and immediately left for Singapore when Brexit happened.

[@bryn494]

Yes, I noticed that at the time... :(

[@Torridon22]

A fair few of my European friends left the UK after Brexit and I am just hoping that Scotland will become independent and can rejoin. People fell for the lies that Boris told - unbelievable!

[@qubedoo3289]

yes frr scotland free scotland, anybody want to right a song about it.

[@seandoherty925]

UK won't rejoin for at least a decade, if ever. The Brexit debate virtually tore the country apart and few people want to reopen it. The visceral hatred for the EU from the right wing in the UK is still there and the reprehensible way they behaved on the way out means very many in Europe have no interest in the UK returning and certainly not until they see clear signs that that group are a small minority with no chance of ever returning to power. As you said Brexit has gone fairly well for the EU. Their economies have thrived well since with many jobs and much investment that might have otherwise gone to or stayed in the UK coming to the EU instead. The dire state of affairs post Brexit in the UK has served as a warning to others who might have been considering it. That has strengthened cohesion in the EU dramatically. They are in no rush for the UK to join again.

[@OptimisticHominid]

I agree with the decade, but not the "if ever"

[@lloydnaylor6113]

Hatred of Europe from the right wing! Explain the red wall . Unemployment in the UK stands at 3.8% very low compared to EU standards and there's a million job vacancies. There's no hatred of Europe, we just rejected the EU.

[@DrJams]

The anglophobia from the left is still there. From anti white quotas to tearing down statues

[@draculakickyourass]

@@lloydnaylor6113 Do not be happy about,,the million job vacancies'',even if some big mouth politician who's name begins with Fa... told you so. The economy is a balance ,and a fenomenon like the lack of working hands is fatal. Why? you would ask... Because the companies begin to compete with higher salaries to cover their vacant jobs,but in the same time,raising the prices to cover for the augmented salaries,that means the british curency devaluates,causing inflation. So you receive more money,but you will be able to buy less, and Inflation once started it's like a dog running in circles ,trying to bite it's own tail,breaking down the things in the house. So,i repeat myself,don't be happy about,,the million job vacancies''

[@narannavan]

We will rejoin when enough of the old boomers with imperial pink glasses are dead

[@justherby3567]

"Long time rival" is certainly one way to describe Anglo-Irish history.

[@BlackDoveNYC]

I thought the same thing. Here’s to euphemistic descriptions.

[@SneakyFart69]

Also there are now more Catholics than protestants in Northern Ireland contradicting what he said.

[@jgdooley2003]

@@BlackDoveNYC 1169 Norman invasion was a "special military operation"

[@narayasuiryoku1397]

@@jgdooley2003 we do a little trolling.

[@piedrablanca1942]

hating the english is for the cultured people of the world

[@ethanl.2107]

I’ve been living in the uk my whole life (unfortunately) and ever since brexit I can confidently say it’s been significantly worse here. I can’t wait to leave after I go to university

[@liberty_and_justice67]

Brexit was the triumph of “little England” mentality that may result in England going it alone as the other constituents of the United Kingdom wanting to remain in EU.😢

[@hodakteral7315]

The UK may want to rejoin the EU, but the prospect of that hinges entirely on the Union's desire to admit them. There is a lot of lingering resentment over the UK's feelings of entitlement and exceptionalism, not to mention good oldfashioned English arrogance (the fishermen mentioned are a perfect example), during the withdrawal negotiations that it may be a very hard sell to let the UK back in. Afterall what stopping them from changing their mind again, and cause even more headaches for the Union in 3-5 years time?

[@RoadRunnerMeep]

You can guarantee if the UK joined the EU it would heavily put a clause in to prevent them leaving, or should they do it they would be heavily penalised. There is plenty of hatred towards British / UK now since leaving the EU, I've seen plenty of comments on KZbin videos related to brexit about "letting them suffer" and that we made our own choice etc. I don't think UK would ever rejoin the EU no matter how bad situations become.

[@DrJams]

This video is biased

[@jasperpike242]

​@@DrJams absurdly so

[@mikatu]

Ridiculous. The EU is not a person. If the UK wants to return they will be received with open arms. The EU had to do the same with Switzerland, when the referendum to stop some agreements won. They went hard to make it clear they were not joking. Switzerland decided to "ignore" the referendum (even when that is illegal) and continue with all the agreements that had been signed.

[@jonsimmons4150]

the EU will implode before that happens. 20 years max.

[@redmondpeters6221]

A united Ireland seems to be more likely since Brexit. As an Irishman I think it should happen but it's probably not going to happen anytime soon.

[@-_YouMayFind_-]

unite with brexit or no brexit for Ireland because north- Ireland has brexit and the other not so??? how is that going to work.

[@nikolaucznaum4312]

Good!

[@johnord684]

It might happen sooner than you think as Sinn Fein are now the largest party, and the catholic citizens have outgrown the protestants.They will get their referendum

[@newbris]

@@-_YouMayFind_- The newly united Ireland would remain a member of the EU.

[@madtechnocrat9234]

@@-_YouMayFind_- i think the majority of northern irish wanted to stay in the EU, so i don't think this would be a problem for them. Also the religion kind of stopped being a problem some years ago, so that issue is also probably gone.

[@PrinceWalacra]

The best thing about brexit is that the EU has got rid of a member that was constantly annoying the others with cherry picking and opt-outs. If UK ever returns, the EU will never allow it again.

[@jonsimmons4150]

good!- albania and north macedonia are receiving Eu accession grants actually, their burgeoning economies, and technical window on science and manufacturing, plus their world class financial sector will be a boon to the lack lustre EU. added with freedom of movement, it will be excellant.. (lollor)

[@mark63424able]

I think if the UK wanted to re-join the EU, they would get in relatively quickly. There's a political factor that nobody is talking about: Turkey is on track to to join the EU eventually, and when it does it will instantly become the most populous EU country and therefore hold the greatest political power within the EU parliament. Not only that but it will become a net beneficiary of the EU budget. The balance of power will shift away from France and Germany. If the UK re-joined the EU it would: 1) Reduce the economic burden on the EU net contributors. 2) Counteract the eastward shift in political power caused by the other candidate countries. 3) Bolster western-European influence within the EU.

[@kasegiyabu5030]

@@mark63424able UK won't rejoin EU in its current form. The communist nature of the EU is a major obstacle to convincing a substantial percentage of Brits to vote for re-entry.

[@mark63424able]

@@kasegiyabu5030 The EU isn't communist

[@kasegiyabu5030]

@@mark63424able Look at the EU's legislative structure. Compare the structure to that of the communist Soviet Union. Then tell me it isn't communist.

[@ageoflove1980]

The problem is not only that the UK no longer benefits from the EU. As one of its largest partners, it has of course also lost the ability to steer the EU in to a more favorable direction.

[@kasegiyabu5030]

It never had that ability. On paper: yes. In practice: no.

[@Uchihasasuk5]

@@kasegiyabu5030 even less so now though…

[@kasegiyabu5030]

@@Uchihasasuk5 Less than zero is still zero, meaning no change.

[@johnsnow5264]

​@@kasegiyabu5030The UK was one of the most influential countries in the EU and was very powerful in getting their way. What you might be describing is more a personal victim mindset to feel helpless although you can do anything you like.

[@kasegiyabu5030]

@@johnsnow5264 What I *am* describing is an absence of ability to stop the evermore disconcerting slide into a communist dystopia. EU only tolerated UK for its financial contribution and to hinder any push to compete with Europe's economy.

[@CaptainX2012]

3:49 You always needed your passport to enter mainland Europe. The UK was never part of the Schengen area. However, entering the Schengen area used to be much quicker as they basically just checked to make sure you were British and on you went, it didn't even need to be stamped. There weren't any customs checks.

[@Terrorkarel]

You could enter the UK with just a EU ID card before Brexit though

[@Finkiu]

Main difference is that before you did not need a passport if you had an European ID card. Now you need a passport to enter the UK from the EU. In most European countries ID's are mandatory so people only get or renew their passports if they are planning to travel outside the EU. No need for a passport even if travelling to Switzerland, Norway, Andorra, etc.

[@keepitbluezola]

Slightly incorrect, you could travel with photo ID, such as a driver’s license.

[@br5380]

I might've needed my passport, but no one could stop me living abroad, unlike now.

[@steffenschmitt3736]

You could travel and stay as long as you like. Now UK citizens are limited to 90 days (as visa on arrival) within 6 Months. Enough for a vaccation maybe, for work definately not. There are lots of british shipscrews in the Med facing issues.

[@ianlimacher2883]

For a country that doesn't really have legal gun ownership or even a massive problem with them, we really did shoot ourselves in the foot.

[@TheVoiceOfReason93]

Saying this as a Brit myself, leave it to the Little Englanders to achieve the impossible by shooting themselves in the foot even without a gun. Maybe they used a longbow instead?

[@billpugh58]

Still to many nutters with legal guns though!

[@sierratango69]

@@billpugh58 How so?

[@jorgebarriosmur]

@@TheVoiceOfReason93 Shooting yourself in the foot with a longbow....... for one moment I tried to imagine how this could be posible........ it would be quite easier to just ram the arrow into your foot using your hands....... :)

[@Gordon..]

Facts make your point mute

[@airborngrmp1]

After all of these undeniable problems, I bet most Britons have united in recognizing their collective mistake and are looking for solutions - right guys? Guys? We're not still arguing over whether it was a good idea, are we...?

[@BigHenFor]

Only the right wing client media in the UK are, and those who don't know better are.

[@davestrider4973]

I would just like it if the country didn't break up, personally.

[@birdman4565]

Some die-hard simpletons will never acknowledge that Brexit was a mistake.

[@gagaplex]

The thing is - and I remember complaining about it years ago - the UK already was very selective about what cooperation with the EU to engage in and what not to. They were picking and choosing with the best advantages for their own country - not the community - in mind. Not exactly fair, but certainly their right. Yet despite this "Rosinenpickerei" resulting in very favorable deals that other EU countries could only dream of, they decided to leave. Their loss, honestly.

[@gagaplex]

Should the UK ever want to rejoin the EU (which I doubt, honestly), I would think such special deals should be off the table.

[@josipag2185]

​@@gagaplex Not just should I am 100% that they would be off the table

[@ozzie2612]

Rarely has a country shot itself in both feet with such enthusiasm.

[@c.guibbs1238]

The last time, perhaps, was when Germany declared war to the USA...after invading USSR !

[@lloydnaylor6113]

Nope, no shots where fired, it was a democratic decision but as most Europeans have lived under Communist or fascist rule I can imagine that's difficult for you to comprehend.

[@ozzie2612]

@@c.guibbs1238 yes and we know how that ended

[@ozzie2612]

@@lloydnaylor6113 and the benefits from doing it was ?

[@ozzie2612]

@@lloydnaylor6113 and my first comment remains valid

[@nb-yi1yf]

Interestingly, according to the 2021 census, Northern Ireland is now mostly catholic. This meant that on the centenary of the provinces' formation as a protestant state for a protestant people, it's now a catholic state.

[@dimwitsixtytwelve]

they still overwhelmingly want to remain part of the UK though.

[@Czybmnxn]

They now have the greatest deal out of everyone. The new NI deal means they get the best of both worlds, which could also bring billions into the UK each year as this is very attractive to businesses.

[@BrokenSoldier1515]

@@Czybmnxnthis deal is actually going to push NI towards EU, as they will make sure their laws are more in-line with EU thus making their products expensive for GB to import

[@myleskgallagher]

@Dim Wit Actually ~50% want to remain part of the UK according to polls.

[@cantripleplays]

@@BrokenSoldier1515 not really, all the new deal did was loosen restrictions

[@Princey92]

Brexit probably happened to avoid britan having to give up its off shore tax havens in the commonwealth.

[@martini3524]

Not Off-shore Tax Havens of Britain but of the Super Wealthy British.

[@andreeas.2362]

For sure. Always see who profits from Brexit and who made the campaigns. Also who were behind the press funds that encouraged brexit

[@davidcollins1154]

so no EU countries have tax havens is that what you are aying?

[@evac3928]

Bingo

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

"We'll be stronger by separating ourselves from a much larger group" said no one ever.

[@shaunpatterson5098]

I was 16 when the Brexit vote came around. Even at that young age, as naive as I was, I could see leaving one of, if not THE biggest, single market was a huge mistake. I resent every person that voted Leave, even more so the greedy opportunists pushing the idea.

[@sioioos]

You are only young, but if you resent the opposing view in a democratic vote every time it doesn't go your way, you won't have many friends left.

[@davidthompson4383]

It's the only stagnating market in the world. The EU sells the UK more than we sell them. The UK sells more to the rest of the world than they sell us. Basically we always lose money to the EU but we make money from the rest of the world. Our focus should be on a free global Britain not an imprisoned Britain inside a locked EU economy.

[@AleaumeAnders]

Don't worry, when your own kids are 16, you might see a Brentry. Sadly it won't be much earlier than that, as England clearly has to hit rock bottom first. Plus us europeans will also need some time to forgive all the lies sputtered by the brexetiers. But I'm quite certain, Russia and China will do their best to "encourage" the british people to search safety in numbers. And as talked about in the video, moving to NI or SCO might speed up that process for you personally.

[@chrisnamaste3572]

Russia was pushing Brexit behind the scenes through information operations. Tory fools feel for it. Once Brexit happened I knew Trump had a good chance to win...

[@shaunpatterson5098]

@@sioioos democracy undercut by deceit & greed. People misled very easily. Willing to lose friends over it.

[@I_Love_Quokkas]

Living in the USA I can’t imagine trying to break out of the EU. While my country is not in it, it would be like Texas following through on its many threats and trying to break off. Just wouldn’t work out well for anyone, but would hurt Texas the most. Though these days a disturbing number of Conservatives in our government think breaking up the country is a GOOD thing.

[@carlosfurtado1164]

Didn't Texas undergo a massive cold snap not too long ago which disrupted the power supply, and could not get any backup as they chose not to be part of the National Grid? Just saying as it is an interesting analogy

[@I_Love_Quokkas]

@@carlosfurtado1164 yeah that’s happened few times in recent years. Governor of course said everything was fine. Was fine that they allow the natural gas companies to not weatherize their pipelines and equipment to prevent from freezing up to save massive profits. Had zero to do with owner of one of the bigger ones from donating very heavily to his campaign. Fine that even if the main transmission lines work, doesn’t mean any other part of the electrical grid can handle the extreme weather.

[@ruy7164]

I remember something similar happened about 150ish years ago, things didn't go well.

[@sotch2271]

Texas would be way worse than uk Uk brexit did so badly in good part because their actual government and parties aren't able to discuss good plans and only check for immediate popularity wich they didn't even get They passed upon multiple prime minister since 2 years Brexit could have been much much less damaging, but it was only made with popularity in mind

[@rafalpilat4229]

The difference is USA is a single country, while the EU is an international organization of sovereign states. We never agreed to give up our sovereignty to the EU

[@ArchangelSteve]

The worst thing about Brexit is the number of people who still refuse to accept it was a bad idea and that we should be taking steps to rejoin as soon as possible if we want to come anywhere close to how good we had it back in 2015.

[@mclaude3]

Sunk Cost fallacy. The linger we stick with a position and the more we lose over it (money, reputation, friends, our minds), the more we fight to stay, either in the hope that we can prove others wrong, but also in the deluded belief that whatever was lost was some kind of investment that's bound to pay off!

[@patrickcardon1643]

How you bankrupt companies ... and countries too ... ah well, at least it will become a textbook example. Will have some use to someone

[@dutchsailor6620]

You can not take steps, you can only apply. It will need an unanimous vote from all the member states to be accepted, and only on their terms and time frame. Not going to happen.

[@nemo9540]

The British people were conned into leaving the EU, before the vote we as given conflicting information and talking points to the point were many of us had no idea how to vote. I voted to stay because I didn't have the vital knowledge to make an informed choice. I just hope another referendum takes place to re enter the EU.

[@ianhamilton3113]

Let's hope it's soon.

[@daanw6270]

EU doesn't need the UK, so why would they accept them back?

[@kevincinnamontoast3669]

Uk would need to accept th Euro. Not likely.

[@nemo9540]

@kevincinnamontoast3669 I have no issues with changing to the euro and I'm guessing there's others who feel the same.

[@Darko_Milosevski03]

Well britain should have accepted the euro The pound is bad ​@kevincinnamontoast3669

[@zavaraninoveuhorky]

Wow who would have thought it would be actually bad to leave cooperation pact of 27 states? wow!

[@William_Does_Coasters2255]

Why did we leave? 😢 I loved Europe.

[@grunyitmacquethal5519]

We left the European Union, not Europe. We left to take back control of our laws, borders and commercial policy

[@akhsdenlew1861]

you're still in europe don't worry. Unless if you turn your island into a giant boat and you float away in the sunset.

[@dangriff12]

People care about the laws imposed upon them from Europe. Until you ask them to name a law they don't like. Then their argument collapses.

[@Jozztime]

@@grunyitmacquethal5519 You definitely voted leave.

[@grunyitmacquethal5519]

@@Jozztime of course I voted leave. Why would I vote to remain part of crusty, over regulated, defunct European Union?

[@jensschroder8214]

As an EU citizen, I have occasionally bought goods from England. After Brexit I found the same goods in the EU, but the goods from England are too expensive due to customs clearance. If I want to travel, I can easily do so in the EU with my ID card. But for the UK I now need a passport and a visa. It's even worse for UK citizens. Before they simply went through the gate for EU citizens, today they have to queue at the gate for foreign countries.

[@TimGrad]

I also enjoyed traveling to UK, but with visa customs etc. it was too much of a hassle for me. I ordered shiny boxer shorts as usual, but after Brexit, I had to go to customs to declare them and pay additional money. Since then I have never ordered anything from the UK again.

[@bthsr7113]

Here's the thing, even if the EU lets the UK back in, it probably won't be close to the position of prestige and influence they once had in the EU. They'll be going from a senior membership with perks to a junior membership on probation. Still better than going it alone, especially if the independence movements succeed, but it won't be as cushy anymore.

[@v_cpt-phasma_v689]

that fact alone will mean the UK NEVER rejoins the EU, the British people would never accept being treated as lesser than the likes of France or Germany, for the UK it would have to be the same position as before or better, neither side is likely to change their minds hence it never happens.

[@shzarmai]

exactly, smh 🤦 As a Remainer this is so infuriating smfh

[@daanw6270]

​@@v_cpt-phasma_v689fascinating that the Brits think so highly of themselves

[@v_cpt-phasma_v689]

@@daanw6270 its not about thinking so highly of ourselves its about not being disrespected, why would we ever accept a position lower than our peers?

[@MCKevin289]

One of the issues of the UK is how inherently undemocratic their system is. Essentially the elections are decided by the south of England. Along with the fact one of their legislative houses is unelected and filled with hereditary nobles who’s interests lay with protecting the status quo.

[@fboylan16]

Truth, this system (I won't say "our" because I feel I have no stake in this country) is rule by the largest minority in southern England. I should know as I live in South East England (Kent)

[@GCOSBenbow]

Except if you look at Brexit votes the regions that decided we would leave were overwhelmingly north-east and east. The south where as you say the vast majority of the UK population lives was very 50/50 or remain favoured. But I agree the democratic system in the UK is incredibly outdated and the last 20 or so years of torys highlights that clearly.

[@MCKevin289]

@@GCOSBenbow Brexit made a lot of underlying issues in Britain much more noticeable. However, I was referring to the parliamentary elections and how England decided that the country would have a string of Tory governments and how the political power of the country is disproportionately biased towards Southern England. Along with the fact that the British legislative branch is partially made up of unelected nobles and bishops, many of whom are only there because they inherited their position. My undergraduate dissertation in university/college was on the Troubles. The House of Lords made things a lot worse for the people of Northern Ireland in my opinion as a historian and history teacher. They hindered legislation that would’ve given Irish people in the north a way to be involved in politics legitimately. Not to mention all the issues that it caused for the North.

[@jamesmichaels4979]

The UK political systems is war hardened and so much better than a presidential system

[@GCOSBenbow]

@@jamesmichaels4979 Presidential systems have existed almost as long as our current political system. I think our brand of democracy is slightly better than the US but compared to countries like Germany, France and the Scandis we really do lag behind. Just terrible representation and lack of accountability; the movement towards focusing on political individuals instead of party and policy is also extremely damaging.

[@KOGAMA172]

Video idea: What would happen if Scotland declared independence from the United Kingdom

[@Deiwos0]

Societal upheaval, riots, chaos in government and increasing authoritarianism followed by reactive factionalism as things start to spiral out of control. Scotland would probably okay though.

[@Delightfully_Bitchy]

I believe that was a joke. Edit: original comment deleted, lol.

[@faneriuba1123]

@@JesusOrDestruction well if u take natural resources into consideration, it's not looking good for UK, 90% of them is in Scotland

[@chrisyoung9653]

hey im scottish. we own all the oil gas and whisky which is our biggest export. england would be in a bad way without scotland

[@betsyross2.065]

LIBERTY

[@yankeehussar3614]

The thing is a lot of these problems come from the weakness and complete lack of action on the part of the British government especially with the Torys. These issues weren't an inevitable consequence of Brexit but of the poor handling of the situation.

[@jgard8606]

I live in Dover (UK) and voted the leave! What a waste of a vote though!? I can still see France on a clear day 😠 ☀️

[@justin7143]

I’m sure they stare back and laugh uncontrollably at the stupidity they see

[@benjaminlynch9958]

Honestly surprised this didn’t turn into a video on how Brexit is going to help/hurt Ukraine win their war.

[@leftoids.are.cringe]

LOL

[@DDubb007]

Hahahaha yes. Dude sounds American, his content shows otherwise.

[@superraegun2649]

It will hurt Ukraine, as The UK is one of its bigger supports and the lack of UK influence in The EU has meant that they haven't been able to push for tougher sanctions from The EU. To be clear, there are other countries in Europe, particularly eastern Europe, whom The UK could caucus with in that regard. This might help understand why Putin ran a campaign to get The UK out of The EU.

[@entropy5431]

Or Brexit's effect on climate change 😂. This video is so biased and basic which is a shame as I usually like these cartoons.

[@splashmedzankhomani232]

​@@superraegun2649 UK should keep out of eu

[@mmadmic]

As a Belgian, I have to problem to go to Spain, Italy, or Greece for a citytrip or a few day, just need my ID card and a few euros, living at the French border, I do a lot of my grocery in France as it's cheaper, but I stopped to visit UK since Brexit as it's became a nightmare, borders, passports, currency exchange ... Before food were not good but at least there were food ... I work in a company organizing events all across Europe, before Brexit, we had at least two event per year in the UK, but now, we've stopped as it is too complicated and expensive.

[@2adamast]

A passport (+ETA) and another currency is not exactly highly complicated or a nightmare.

[@mmadmic]

@@2adamast Indeed, but for a weekend, I don't want to lose my time and money in administrative stuffs when I can just buy my tickets and go wherever I want without worrying about passport, money exchange and other things that just didn't exist a few years ago. If the Britons reject Europeans, why as an European, am I supposed to spend my money for them ?

[@lloydnaylor6113]

Nightmare, borders , currency controls incase you didn't know we had the pound even in the EU, we were not part of the EU open borders, incidentally like the Republic of Ireland. As for the silly comment, at least there was good , my biggest complaint when visiting a British supermarket is the staff blocking the aisles stuffing more products in the shelves.

[@lloydnaylor6113]

@@mmadmic we didn't reject Europeans or Europe we rejected the EU. Please, you are more than welcome to visit.

[@sharknado623]

​@@mmadmicgood point. They rejected us, why should we spend their currency there?

[@tommyd5238]

The man with an American accent, telling us in the UK to be happy with a system that no one in his own country would ever have signed up to !

[@lordjazoijua94]

The channel is bias against the UK.

[@athanassiospagalis913]

You are a bright one, what do you think the U in USA and EU stand for? The EU acts like a confederal US.

[@marcelrenes2435]

In The Netherlands there was a party who wanted a Nexit. They got 7 seats (of a possible 150). Now, they only have 1 seat. We in The Netherlands have learned from the disaster called 'Brexit'. Instead of taking control back, they are now forced to accept laws from the EU. If they stayed in the EU, they could veto those laws. Not anymore...

[@stephenderry9488]

For a British passport-holder, travelling from the UK to an EU country (or back) is not much different. You have to stand in the longer line, but generally just show your passport and get waved through (or use electronic gates) just like before. Once in the EU you can move around the Schengen area freely like anyone. Obviously if you are staying several months or looking to work things are MUCH more complicated now. We've never had ID cards in the UK that can be used in lieu of passports, and never had passport-free travel to any EU country other than Ireland. Visa-free, yes. Passport-free, no.

[@TheChill001]

That is mainly because as you said, the UK doesn't have ID cards, while most EU, if not all, do. ID cards are used for various things, from purchases to identification in hospitals, government buildings and so forth. Since UK citizens don't have an ID, they always had to use their passport...

[@quicksesh]

Actually there is one key difference and that is the 90 day limit in any 180 day period, that 90 days include any transit days as well. For some people who make frequent but short visits to the EU this is tripping them up. Oh and the 10 year expiry from date of issue (not the expiry date as shown on the passport) has been brought in for British passport holders.

[@lennyw99]

The UK is now considered to be a ‘third country’ with no freedom of movement, and for a while during COVID restrictions were banned from entering a number of EU countries

[@funnelhacking]

Travelling on holiday yes. Not a huge difference beyond not being allowed to bring meat across border etc Doing any kind of work, living or buying property or trading goods. Huge difference

[@lionsingh18]

Lived in Germany and oft used my driving licence out and about.

[@benhay2317]

The U.K. never offered passports free travel to the EU, it’s always been a requirement to have a passport when leaving or entering the U.K. from the EU

[@todorokimusa523]

Not true. My supervisor at work came to the UK with her Romanian ID

[@Roar1987]

@@todorokimusa523 The UK isn't in Schengen and never was, so this is impossible

[@benhay2317]

@@todorokimusa523 A valid form of I.D. Sorry, what I mean is the UK has never been like Europe where you can cross borders without any identification, there's always been a requirement to pass through some kind of border control where identification is required to be shown.

[@joaoserrado]

@@Roar1987 i’ve always entered the United Kingdom with my Portuguese ID, it was never required to have a passport.

[@MegaSupernowa]

@@Roar1987 yes, tell people who traveled to UK with ID that it was Impossible..... I traveled with ID for a decade until Brexit. Now I just don't visit.

[@stephenflowerday4038]

As a Brit that's worked on farms and the NHS I knew this would be a disaster. I love my country, but also knew we were stronger in Europe. They were our main trading partners ffs. Gutted we left and hoping in time we'll be able to re join our continental pals 🤞

[@The.Original.Mr.X]

Fun fact, recently there was a remoner rally in London. We were told that up to 300,000 would arrive. They got about 3000.😂

[@dragonflyBMX]

donkz

[@STIGMAfx]

Passport checks were always required even whilst in the EU

[@patryklepczynski5059]

Yea that’s correct as UK never was part of Schengen

[@poler44]

Could use an ID card tho

[@samafc1]

​@@poler44nope

[@STIGMAfx]

@@poler44 incorrect, I'm a UK citizen, passport only or not travel outside the country to anywhere

[@rakwraithraiser7315]

Im a American and I thought it was weird when he said that

[@edwardtodd6939]

Biggest mistake ever - totally upset, angry and frustrated at how this happened 😢

[@gnrseanra9070]

Why?

[@catchapl]

@@gnrseanra9070 you missed the video you are commenting under?

[@jackkruese4258]

As a Brit I couldn’t agree more.

[@gnrseanra9070]

@@catchapl No I listen, it's important.... Ursula Von Der Leyen was left at airport Beijing not literally ish or am I giving you spin....Macron now loves China!

[@michaelmouse4024]

Britain lost an empire and has yet to find a role.

[@generalmortars7557]

We'd LOVE to have you back, Scotland!

[@roberttirpak5447]

I used to live and work in the UK for 9 years. I paid taxes, nhs, council tax and so on... I was of off work on sick only for 3 weeks during those 9 years. In the end the economic situation just got worse and I left in 2022. I am quite curious now, maybe somebody can enlighten me... Are there any positives for the UK that they got from Brexit? Good luck, have a great day.

[@birdman4565]

No

[@JSLRousseau]

~3:30 The UK was never part of Schengen so you always had to bring your passport to go from the UK to the rest of Europe and back. Not being able to use the EU passport check lines is correct however.

[@rutgerb]

I never had to bring my passport. My Dutch ID card was good enough. Ohhh but you are talking about UK-> EU

[@joaodguimaraes]

You're wrong. National ID cards were enough for EU travelers. EDIT: the original post said EU travelers needed passports to enter the UK. Nice stealth edit there without acknowledging that, OP.

[@NardoVogt]

ID cards were enough and you had priority lines as EU citizens

[@mustardmule4723]

A guy who I worked with only had an ID when living here

[@tnickknight]

UK citizens don't have IDs as their government is too cheap, so they forget about them 😂

[@uwillcxm22]

why are so many people in the UK still in denial?

[@mrfarenheit0323]

Brexit always struck me as an emotional decision.

[@GeographRick]

The company I work for was going to have a European Branch in London. But when Brexit happened, the London location advantage evaporated. We are now in Toulouse, France.

[@sng1867]

Who would’ve thought leaving your largest market would end in disaster!?

[@SamSitar]

revoking brexit will fix that.

[@Flotter-Flo]

@@SamSitar Their pride makes that impossible.

[@pjohan74]

@@SamSitar UK had the biggest exceptions from rules in EU other countries could just dream of. They will NOT get those exceptions if they come crawling back, and they would not accept not getting them. UK will most likely be out of EU for good. If they split, Scotland and Wales might join, but never England.

[@j.4332]

@@SamSitar Never happen for 100 years until all the snowflakes are in charge.

[@sk00p]

​@@pjohan74 if you put a border between Britain, expect militia to do whats right.

[@bhgtree]

One interesting note is that the Republic of Ireland has a agreement since Irish independence allowing free travel between the UK and Ireland (predating the Troubles in NI and going back before the EU was born 👶. I'm Irish and have relations from both sides of my family in the UK, several uncles and aunts went in the 1950's and 60's and settled down in the UK.

[@sneakykidugo]

But how come EU-Ireland free movement doesn't exist?...Ireland is EU right?

[@paulohagan3309]

@@sneakykidugo EU-Ireland free movement does exist.The Irish can live/work etc. in the other EU countries and vice-versa.

[@bhgtree]

@@sneakykidugo Are you thinking of Northern Ireland alone? The Republic of Ireland as EU member has free movement. That is one of the biggest problems of Brexit, having a border/no border between the Republic and Northern Ireland.

[@viquiben4919]

Bet your aunts and uncles are holding now an irish passport aren't they?

[@bhgtree]

@@viquiben4919 yes, by Irish law they would be entitled (Irish born) and so would my cousins (one Irish parent).

[@jackiehaigh3401]

The UK is not divided into 'regions.' Scotland, England, Wales & Northern Ireland are the 4 separate countries that make up the UK. Only England voted for Brexit; the other countries didn't but because England is the biggest country & they counted all the votes of the UK together, Brexit won and went ahead.

[@ingridwieneriw]

Wales did also

[@caneighdianjake8439]

Two points that I came across in this debate that werent mentioned here: 1) Scottish acceptance into the EU is not necessarily guaranteed. It would require the unanimous approval of all EU countries, including a few with their own local independence factions. Spain might be hesitant to accept Scotland into the EU when its struggling with independence movements in its state of Catalonia. I dont know hownlikely thisnwould be but it is a point that is rarely mention. 2) After the whole headache of Brexit, I imagine the EU would set a very, very high bar for UK to prove its fully committed to rejoin. No one will want to repeat the Brexit fiasco a second time. I imagine this period would be counted in decades as opposed to several years. Not to mention, the UK will definitely not get the same priviledged position it initially had in the EU, which might be a harder sell for the UK public. It had perks and opt-outs that were initially negotiated and grandfathered in that it wont get back. For instance, initially it had an opt-out for the Euro. That most likely will not be an option in the future.

[@jaffacakemonster53]

There are a few errors. When the UK was an EU member there was still passport checks when travelling to say, France. But the checks were minimal, they were only really allowed to check you match the passport picture. Also, with regard to post brexit food imports, they are not doing customs / safety checks at the moment so at least importing food is not a problem.

[@Nick-xf5hr]

Importing food not a problem. Tell that to my local greengrocer when he comes back empty handed from new Spitalfields

[@Altrop]

Well yeah I live in the EU and if I fly to a random country they will check my ID to see if it's me of course. Airports have a special status and it's a security thing. But I can stay, live and work in any of the 27 countries as long as I want. I kniw some people living the Van Life that just roam Europe and work here and there to pay fir their minimal costs, which is pretty cool, though not for me. Did these checks you mention also apply to going to france through the tunnel? I would have expected not since it's a road between 2 countries but maybe it has a special status just like airports.

[@fatalityin1]

Food imports are a problem, try to get a netherland tomato. A friend sent me videos of three supermarkets where he tried to get greens and there were basically none. Most EU members no longer export quickly expiring food, because they can expect at least a week of custom checks, not even from the EU side, but from the GB customs. Have you seen, how long the dover tunnel is backed up?

[@bryangeake5826]

....we are not checking imports that may no longer are being produced to EU standards, its a smugglers charter!!! Recently some checks were done and sub standard meat was found!!! So, to say 'not a problem' is rather euphemistic!!

[@allthings1036]

This is a prime example of brexit blindness, probably shops in harrods lol

[@TheKingleper]

A good video but the EU is not the Schengen; travelling to the Schengen from the UK always required documents and going through border control. The same still holds true for Ireland which is an EU member state but not a part of the Schengen area. Also as an American who has lived in the EU for 15+ years, you don't need to 'learn another language' to visit the EU, virtually everyone speaks English; with the frequent exception of French people.

[@vunguyenlong5738]

This! Man this is so true, i toured Europe recently and was suprised at how little English the French spoke, like i had absolutely no problem using English back in Spain or Germany, but France seems to dislike the language for some reasons.

[@Qnexus7]

@@vunguyenlong5738 because the french call the computer ordinateur and the bicycle velo and so on. if they're too proud to use a non french word, its expectable that they're too proud to speak english of all languages.

[@sebastiengunn6934]

Didn't you learn another language whiles being in the EU ? It would have been a great opportunity. I can't believe someone could live in the eu without bothering trying to learn at least one of its languages, or learn a bit of multiple languages. I mean europeans make the effort to learn english, why not reciprocate that out of respect and learn another ? (I'm British btw, I respect europeans so much in their efforts to please anglophones like us, but in my opinion, the same efforts should go the other way).

[@LucasSilva-dr6lu]

The French have no obligation to speak English with you. In their country people speak French and there's nothing wrong with that.

[@TheKingleper]

@@sebastiengunn6934 Yes, I speak Dutch and limited Spanish, but I travel to many countries here (I'm in Serbia for a few months now). Sadly I am not going to be able to learn them and English is the language pretty much everyone uses to communicate with other nationalities. Dutch and Spanish are of limited utility here or in Poland for example.

[@patrickmccutcheon9361]

Pound weakening? The Euro is at 0.86 which is what it has been since 2016.

[@Fabian-Wenzel]

Ich hab aufgrund meiner schmalen Rente lange gespart, um Urlaub in London zu machen, um das Sherlock Holmes Museum zu besuchen und die Sherlock Holmes Stadtführung. Das lohnt sich jetzt aber nicht mehr für mich seit das Vereinigte Königreich aus der EU ausgeschieden ist. Die ganze Sache wird teurer und viel Zeit aufwendiger. Nehme ich halt weiter vorlieb mit meinen DVDs, den Hörspielen und der Sherlock Holmes Gesamtausgabe von Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

[@4tbf616]

A fellow Sherlock Holmes fan, i see

[@BlackVulpes]

Rich people always want to balk at the idea of giving any wealth to the poor, forgetting that they get their wealth from the poor in the first place. Then it finally collapses on them and they have no one to blame but themselves.

[@Czybmnxn]

That’s a very circumstantial comment.

[@kc-jm3cd]

It’s a realistic one

[@susanoakeshauf]

Ridiculous.

[@brucethompson7214]

So you're a fan of socialism huh? That works worse that capitalism.

[@acuritis]

@@brucethompson7214 such a reactionary - skipped right past fair wages and went straight to “socialism scary”

[@DinoJake]

I like how in the thumbnail, Ireland looks like it's wearing a tiny flaming hat.

[@crw45able]

The flaming hat is Northern Ireland and it looks like this because you can see Sammy Wilson's red face from space.

[@qo92]

Passport checks were always necessary between France and the UK as the UK was never in the Schengen area. However, there were minimal customs checks.

[@CaribouEno]

There were ID checks. That is all. ID cart/UK driving license was sufficient. There was no vetting (as coming to France or Belgian was a RIGHT as citizen of a EU member country and not a discretion based approval) and there was no sync with the Schengen Information System for crime records or overstays. And there was no passport stamping with "Admitted until. ..." (90 days or less).

[@qo92]

@@CaribouEno Getting into the UK (in pre-Brexit years) from France/Belgium with only a GB licence for a UK citizen was a lot of bother (I've been in this situation!). I don't even know how getting into France or Belgium for a UK citizen without a passport would be possible. French and Belgian ID cards were (and are) passport-like, but the UK didn't really have an equivalent as there were no mandatory ID cards. The situation is still the same today for travel between Ireland and France or Belgium. Irish citizens will need a passport (or passport card) - a driver's licence is not enough. French and Belgians can use their ID cards though.

[@scasny]

Cooperation is always better then competition, my country have even a medieval myth about the strength of cooperation and unity.

[@TheTrueAdept]

The funny thing is that Brexit's political proponents have been under MI5 scrutiny since Brexit, with some _SERIOUS_ ties to Russia...

[@recoil53]

Same with American conservatives. Well at least serious sympathies with Russia.

[@pedro-on-wheels]

@@recoil53 russia hoax much?

[@recoil53]

@@pedro-on-wheels Not really. Neither do I just repeat what politicians say in their defense. Marjorie Taylor Green, Bobert, and Gaetz have been openly Pro Russia. Not as much as Tucker Carlson, but they've pushed Russian talking points.

[@recoil53]

@@pedro-on-wheels As for Trump, whose words you repeat, he openly just blindly took Putin's words for everything. That is never explained away.

[@pedro-on-wheels]

@@recoil53 russia hoax much? Yes, russia hoax all the time!

[@netto6681]

It was a scandal that such an important and complicated issue was allowed to be put to the public at all in the terms it was. It doesn’t help that the British public, like many other Western countries, is overwhelmingly thick, ignorant and xenophobic.

[@finns23653]

not really a western country thing being thick, ignorant and xenophobic ... more of a humanity in general thing, despite how frustrating it can be even in these western countries, they still represent the least thick, ignorant and xenophobic humanity has ever been

[@Lennis01]

Be careful. Your elitism is showing.

[@netto6681]

@@Lennis01 I fail to see the problem. Walk down any British high street and tell me you want the sundry mouth breathers you encounter deciding on complex economic and political matters.

[@Lennis01]

Britain is either a democracy or it's not.

[@netto6681]

It’s a representative democracy, which means we elect representatives to work out the details on our behalf.

[@mark63424able]

Most people in the UK know Brexit was a huge mistake but its become so politically toxic that neither party wants to address it. Even the Tories don't talk about Brexit anymore. Labour will not discuss it before the 2024 general election because it could backfire massively. I think we will have to wait another election cycle before there can be a serious discussion about re-joining the EU. The good thing is that support for re-joining the EU will only increase in the meantime.

[@godmode8687]

In britain maybe. But why exactly would the EU accept the brits back in again? Given they were in the past against basically every deepening of political integration etc?

[@DeviousWizard]

Most of these issues are easily solvable if corporations just pay properly. Lacking a vulnerable foreign workforce to exploit is a well deserved problem for exploiters

[@mrmextmt]

Can be, but they will surely adjust their prices to compensate. Blaming corporations for complex problems is easy (and for good reason) yet solving these problems will need strong regulation. If you expect business owners and corporations to move against their own interests for the greater good is naive you will be in for a long wait.

[@COPKALA]

imagine the king having to 'go abroad' to visit his own castles...

[@draculakickyourass]

...by the same way he visits his residence in Transilvania.....

[@CristySFM1234]

I'm Welsh and here pre brexit quite a few people supported it but post brexit the call for separation from the UK has grown brexit harmed my homeland of Wales and me and many other Welsh are sick of the brits harming our people with selfish acts

[@Loadarine]

Im welsh too funnier enough haha.

[@tomosprice8136]

Cymru am byth 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@Gordon..]

But you're happy to take their money

[@Loadarine]

@@Gordon.. you know nothing mate

[@cwr3959]

You say the Brits as you are not a Brit yourself

[@robertwagner3202]

Very sad UK left, but I hope UK will still do well. I like the people and culture. Maybe one day we can unite again.

[@GCS88]

LOL no. They made their bed.

[@peterstayne3765]

No thanks

[@davidr7819]

My borough in London voted 75.4% remain. As did most English university towns.

[@seasonsbeatings2227]

lol St. Patrick's Day came early!

[@ninjiango9126]

UK used Brexit, UK hurt itself in its confusion.

[@leogama3422]

It's super effective!

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

The comic of the UK sawing off its own arm, and running off in victory, with a gobsmacked EU still holding the arm in a handshake position.

[@finns23653]

haha

[@InsaneDark]

who says that we would accept the whole UK back?

[@TheLiamMurphy]

Blood pudding is not a dessert, it's a breakfast sausage.

[@zmark7843]

so, mmm, if all three of these goes, we can simply call the remaining country England then?

[@eddapultstab2078]

I think just Britton since it's only them at that point

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Still leaves Isle of Mann and Cornwall.

[@rsbandbj1]

2:05 I remember when our previous US president started his reduce immigration campaign. I also remember when journalist were interviewing farmers, especially cranberry farms who had whole crops get destroyed because nobody was picking them. They used to use J1 work visas for people to come up to work for the season then go back.

[@douglasfels9789]

Yeah, houses have soared in price since we no longer have cheap labor to build them. I'm surprised that hasn't resulted in more political backlash.

[@Deltathegoldenretriever]

@@douglasfels9789 😂 that absolutely has nothing to do with my houses went up in price the price of materials as double if not tripled and believe it or not, I’ve worked on mini construction cruise immigrants do not get paid any less than anybody else

[@jasonsmith2247]

@@Deltathegoldenretrieverit’s a reason. Just not the ONLY reason why the cost has gone up. Like you said the cost of construction materials has gone up. Figured that out when I wanted to build a fence and received the 12k estimate (back in 2021)

[@gabrielafranco5242]

Ah yes, because giant agricultural firms can’t get cheap labor to pick their crops means we should import them and completely disregard the will of actual US Citizens, the majority of which want legal & illegal immigration reduced. Also we shouldn’t pay any heed to assimilation or having a cohesive culture, because that throughout the history of all nations has always worked out right?

[@douglasfels9789]

​@@gabrielafranco5242 Well, the last 400 years in the US comes to mind. My ancestors are German and Irish. I can speak neither. Kind of 400 years of what we've been doing successfully despite political wonks manipulating people into believing the opposite would be more successful...for reasons.

[@WouterB76]

Making a intrusive choice and on forehand overseeing the consequences are two things very far apart from each other.

[@jerrybarnes6611]

The UK is not "one of the world's oldest democracies". It has no written constitution; it's Head of State is not elected; it's upper house is not democratically elected; and it's electoral system, "first past the post" fails to allow for smaller voices to be heard. Up to recent times in the UK, those who owned property got more votes that those who did not and gerrymandering was used to disenfranchise large numbers of people and one religion is held to be supreme over all others. In modern times The UK has not been able to feed itself and depended on vast imports of food. While the food chain has been moderately disrupted to date with some shortages the real impact of Brexit has not been felt yet, as food imports have not been affected because the British have been incapable of erecting customs tariffs on fimports.