Why the US still needs the F-15

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The F-15 first flew in 1972, and fifty years later, the US Air Force is still flying F-15 Eagles in Europe. An upgraded model - the F-15EX Eagle II - is due to begin deploying in the next few months, potentially extending the lifespan of the F-15 until the 2050s, 90 years after the first F-15 took to the skies. Despite operating in every major conflict of the last forty years and scoring more than 100 kills, an F-15 has never been downed by enemy action. So what makes the F-15 Eagle so formidable? And are we justified in suggesting that the F-15 is the greatest fighter jet of all time?
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F-15 Primecuts, by Travis Burcham, via DVIDS-
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F-15 Baz, Davidi Vardi Pikiwiki Israel, CC BY 2.5, via Wikimedia Commons
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A F-15 fighter jet piloted by then-Maj. Wilbert 'Doug' Pearson Jr. flies an ASM-135 anti-satellite missile on Sept. 13, 1985: Paul E. Reynolds/U.S. Air Force photo
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@hamsamich9
@hamsamich9 Ай бұрын
I always forget how old most “modern” jet fighters are. Even the F22 is almost 30 years old which is crazy to me.
@jlo7770
@jlo7770 17 күн бұрын
I always wonder if people get upset that a handful of f22's are out there?... as in, do f35 pilots get upset they didn't get into a f22 or the other way around? I guess that goes with some of the US's other planes. The b2 or sr71. I wonder if there's any female f22 pilots? Seems like a big risk since they push them through training more so then men.. I know some chick ditched a f35 into the south china sea because of a botched carrier landing. 6 or 12? (Cant remember if they were in 3s or 6s) f22s were dispatched to the middle east from Alaska. There's video of them landing/taking off at some airport in the uk. That was last month I believe, pretty bad ass watching it, as they take off and f15 (Can't remember) and f35s took off behind them as they finished the flight.
@fathare2085
@fathare2085 2 күн бұрын
@@hamsamich9 Welcome to growing old!
@mike9347
@mike9347 9 күн бұрын
I once met an F15 Driver once. Him and his s back seater were really nice blokes. Not up themselves but really down to earth.. im sure i asked every question that they would have been asked a zillion times, but they were very respectful, so i bought them lunch. Top fellas.
@Planner38
@Planner38 2 ай бұрын
The F-15 is truly the greatest fighter of all time. Not only is it still operational after 50 years, it is still in production. Countries with vast resources, including the US and Israel, are not continuing to purchase the F-15 because that is all that is available to them. Rather, they continue to purchase F-15s because it remains extremely valuable and can fulfill a variety of roles that other aircraft cannot. Finally, not a single F-15 has been lost in combat. It is truly a legendary aircraft.
@lewiswilson3224
@lewiswilson3224 2 ай бұрын
@@Planner38 nah they have had some lost in combat, just not in A-A combat. But SAM sites and ground fire have destroyed a handful of eagles
@MICHAELJD6
@MICHAELJD6 Ай бұрын
When I was a teenager the guys in the NZ air force said the F 15 sucked. They said the sky hawk was better. You can read about the sky hawk on Wikipedia. Simple, reliable, cheap, maneuverable.
@abergethirty
@abergethirty Ай бұрын
​@@MICHAELJD6 Any pilot is going claim whatever are flying is the best. The Skyhawk is outclassed by the F5 Freedom Fighter for Christ Sakes.
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC Ай бұрын
​@lewiswilson3224 yes. Some Strike Eagles were downed by ground air defenses.
@lewiswilson3224
@lewiswilson3224 Ай бұрын
@@MotoroidARFC I think it was during desert storm if I’m not correct
@ralph.aguinaldomd
@ralph.aguinaldomd Ай бұрын
The F15 is nearly 50 years old and still looks modern. Truly a timeless machine 👀
@ideadlift20kg83
@ideadlift20kg83 Ай бұрын
I agree but maybe it looks modern because we never really go into how old something truly is and how much air craft development has slowed down externally. Development on internals have skyrocketed. A F15 from the 80s stand no chance against a modernized F15 today.
@matthew4107
@matthew4107 Ай бұрын
as someone very interested in combat vehicles, i can tell you the f15 looks incredibly dated. but i know what you mean, we have barely progressed from cold war era looks. 6th gen REALLY look quite different though. which is just around the corner.
@sultanabran1
@sultanabran1 Ай бұрын
these jets are designed 100% for function and 0% for aesthetics. physics hasn't changed from the 1960s.
@F14-talktomegoose
@F14-talktomegoose 26 күн бұрын
just behind the F14 !!
@esbenbuurlkke5775
@esbenbuurlkke5775 24 күн бұрын
@@sultanabran1 so the phyics changed before the 1960’s?
@scotw148
@scotw148 2 ай бұрын
I love these Imperial War Museum videos, thank you for making them.
@Mustapha1963
@Mustapha1963 2 ай бұрын
Consider this: the F-15 was first tested in the early 1970s and first deployed in the late 1970s- and, through constant technological upgrades, is still a first-line fighter today. This is roughly akin to taking a Sopwith Camel and using it in Vietnam.
@luffirton
@luffirton 2 ай бұрын
@@Mustapha1963 I think it’s one of the best decisions the US Air Force have done to date. Why depreciate a winning design for a new design that’s not known to be a new winner. It is the ultimate superiority multirole fighter and by giving it new more effective and fuel efficient engines, new avionics, better radar and technology it can continue to serve. Not only should it be more cost effective to operate in larger numbers but will allow for the US to have a fighter that can go inn first or second in a conflict for the next 40-50 years depending on the type of treat environment. It will be the F-35 or the F15EX going in first to establish air superiority with F-22.
@DefiantSix
@DefiantSix 2 ай бұрын
The difference of course is that the F-15 is still competitive in the modern air combat environment. The Sopwith Camel would have been dog meat in the Vietnam Conflict.
@SquareHeadSlacker
@SquareHeadSlacker 2 ай бұрын
It's not the equivalent at all. Technology has different rates of change. The Sopwith Camel as a platform was obsolescent within a few years. Not the case at all with the F15.
@JeffEbe-te2xs
@JeffEbe-te2xs 18 сағат бұрын
Wrong The F15 can defeat any other plane in service today
@micksmithson6724
@micksmithson6724 2 ай бұрын
"The new engines can produce 29,000lbs of thrust, 5000 tonnes more than the F-15E's engines". Yeah that seems like an error ;)
@theChickenstones
@theChickenstones 2 ай бұрын
I fear that the stated climb rate from take-off of 50,000' a minute is a bit off too.
@beany1987
@beany1987 Ай бұрын
No, it is right. On reheat, they produce just over 6000lb extra thrust on each engine, so 12000lb of thrust overall or just over 5 tons. Also, because of that difference, the top speed of the jet has now increased by 211 mph to 1864mph.
@micksmithson6724
@micksmithson6724 Ай бұрын
@@beany1987 Watch the video, she says "five thousand tons" NOT 5 tons
@steveward53
@steveward53 2 ай бұрын
Had the homour and pleasure of a session in the Eagle Driver simulator when it was at Lakenheath thanks to a good friend who was in the 492nd "Bolars" , thanks again "Bulldog" ... 👍
@extragoogleaccount6061
@extragoogleaccount6061 2 ай бұрын
Was that the kind where it moves around/moves the seat around to simulate forces on the pilot? That is really cool if so....did you have piloting or sim experience before? Or did they have an "easy" mode? (Sounds funny on a military simulator, but I imagine it would be hard to get anywhere without training otherwise lol)
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 2 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, patriotism requires me to argue that the greatest fighter jet of all time was the CF-105 Arrow - but I'll concede the F-15 is the greatest fighter jet to actually enter production. :)
@wertiff541
@wertiff541 2 ай бұрын
@davydatwood3158 They cf-105 was never a fighter. It was an interceptor. Canada had great aircraft at that time with the cf-100 canuck. There ultimately was no use for the cf-105 that being said, we could have sold the technology to the Americans for more than it cost us to develop it.
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 2 ай бұрын
@@wertiff541 Given the debacle that the Bomarc turned out to be, I'll disagree strongly with the assertation that there was no use for the Arrow. It getting cancelled was Canada's unwillingness to actually spend money on defence, pure and simple, and a problem that predates Confederation. And yes, the Arrow was an interceptor. By that token, F-14s aren't fighters either. Western militaries rarely draw a hard line between interceptors and air-superiority ships, and generally lump both together under "fighter" - so I', comfortable in asserting that the Arrow was, indeed, a "fighter."
@nookbandit
@nookbandit Ай бұрын
Promoting a concept that was stopped 65 years ago makes all you Canadians look silly. In that time man has been to space, landed on the Moon, landed crafts on Mars and the moon of Saturn, created vaccines for numerous diseases and yet Canadians are willing to die on the sword of a test program. Cmon Canada join the 21st century and beyond
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Ай бұрын
The 105 was cool. Kinda reminds me of the American Valkyrie. Sadly, it never saw mass production either.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
The whole "controversy" and destruction of the CF - 105 fighter / interceptor program is a disgraceful piece of Canadian / USA "relations". The US should have simply bought up the program and kept its "top secret" use of titanium under wraps, instead of "recommending" the cash strapped Canadian government make it all disappear. There are a few good videos on the CF - 105, including one from the old "Discovery - Wings" program - but only a couple that talk about the background "deal" that ended that darn fine aeroplane.
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 15 күн бұрын
There were two issues with the F--4 in Vietnam. One was rules of engagement. The US pilots had to visually identify targets before they could engage. This limited them and played into the second issue. The other issue was armament. The F-4 did not have a gun for close in combat. It relied on missiles, which, at the time, were very unreliable.
@wilsonli5642
@wilsonli5642 3 күн бұрын
Yep, the F-4 was far more maneuverable than it's given credit for in the popular memory, even if it did look like a flying brick.
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 3 күн бұрын
@@wilsonli5642 I remember when I saw my first one. I thought it was "cool". It was, at the very least, different.
@lastguy8613
@lastguy8613 2 ай бұрын
To become a space ace he'd have to shoot down five satellites i believe..
@Alex-hu5eg
@Alex-hu5eg 2 ай бұрын
@@lastguy8613 one satellite
@DefiantSix
@DefiantSix 2 ай бұрын
Just because you aren't aware of the other 4 satellite kills, doesn't mean they aren't there. We could tell you about them, but then we'd have to unalive you.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
That was the existing traditional "convention" for scoring as an Ace. But I guess they can just make up whatever they want for "space combat". lul
@richardhendroff3035
@richardhendroff3035 2 ай бұрын
Hattie Hearn, thank you so much for your enthralling, passionate and well researched story of the F 15! It's thanks to you that the story of our technical achievements and history is passed on successfully in the most fitting environment of the museum and its artefacts. Thank you again from Perth Western Australia :)
@jumperpence
@jumperpence 2 ай бұрын
@@richardhendroff3035 informative and entertaining. Excellent presentation. Reminds me that I need to revisit this amazing museum.
@kavemanthewoodbutcher
@kavemanthewoodbutcher 9 күн бұрын
If "When in doubt, throttle out." Was a plane.
@Iskelderon
@Iskelderon 2 ай бұрын
Sadly, the F-22, which was supposed to be the F-15 for the new century, was never produced in high enough numbers. Therefore, the 15 gets upgrade after upgrade.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
Something like that. Plus, the F - 22 order being cut back costs us more for each aircraft, shamefully. While the F - 22 was not specifically meant to fully replace the F - 15 on a one for one basis, the reduced number of F - 22's is stupid and wasteful of tax payers money.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 28 күн бұрын
Sometimes, existing -*upgradable* kit is More Than Good Enough (especially when the F-35 exists).
@tikewhite1044
@tikewhite1044 11 күн бұрын
@@Iskelderon WHILE I'm SENSITIVE TO YOUR FEELINGS .... I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE F-15. I'm EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO HER. SHE IS THE QUEEN OF AIR SUPERIORITY. ♠️THE VANITY ADDICT♠️
@jacobbaumgardner3406
@jacobbaumgardner3406 2 ай бұрын
They need it because they decided to stop making Raptors. Simple as that.
@Orbital_Inclination
@Orbital_Inclination Ай бұрын
Also Raptors can't fulfill the ground attack role of the F-15E
@jacobbaumgardner3406
@jacobbaumgardner3406 Ай бұрын
@@Orbital_Inclination yes, though the F-15E aren’t made anymore.
@ntsejfamyaj
@ntsejfamyaj 3 күн бұрын
I see pairs of F-15EX flying over my home every day, as I live under their flight path. I'm glad we have them here to defend the skies.
@NGAD2027
@NGAD2027 Ай бұрын
Because In spite of How Stealthy & High tech the F-35 Is: The US Air Force still Needs a Large Fighter, with the type of Payload Speed and Power the F-15 offers.
@BarrettL1970
@BarrettL1970 17 күн бұрын
Meanwhile the Navy has yet to replace the 'fleet guardian' F-14. F-15 is a legendary beast!
@dbolt6543
@dbolt6543 5 күн бұрын
In 1996, IIRC, I was at an air show that had the last F4 Wild Weasel still in service from Nevada as well as F15s and F16s all parked within audible range of each other. This was the last deployment of a US F4 wild weasel as the crew said they had to take it to the bone yard the following weekend and they were warned that all the items in the cockpit had better be there when they landed. The pilot and rear seater had been together since Viet Nam and were going to transition to KC 135s the week after. IIRC the F 15s were under some limitation of maximum speed at the time and the F4 crew liked to point this out. They said, within earshot of the F15E crew that if the F15 had used its long range missiles then they could "eat his ass." From the look on the F15E crews' face they were right. They also referred to the F16s as "Lawn Darts" because of their propensity to crash. I don't know how much of what they said was true but the F15 and F16 crews did not contradict them and looked extremely pissed off. It was a privilege to talk to a crew who had been in the F4 since Viet Nam and who probably flew the last F4 flight for the US.
@reconhippy8352
@reconhippy8352 2 ай бұрын
Awesome vid. I'm visiting the IWM next time in UK
@andrewtuff6257
@andrewtuff6257 Ай бұрын
Super video, easy to follow (they aren’t always) and what a great original design! Thanks for posting.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Ай бұрын
It’s still flying because it’s a badass jet. The A-10 could keep flying too if they just gave it some love and modern upgrades.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
The A - 10 is a "program" the USAF only took on because it added funds to their budgets. The Air Force is really not super happy to be in the "ground pounding" business - it shows in the neglect that has been piled up on the A - 10. Besides, it could never actually fulfill it's primary "tank buster" role on a modern battlefield. I have always liked the *ideas* and purpose behind the A - 10, but the Air Force vastly oversold it's capabilities and their commitment to support the Army with it. The funding should have gone to more and better helicopters like the RAH-66 Comanche.
@jlo7770
@jlo7770 17 күн бұрын
​@@williestyle35I kinda feel like the days of low and slow aircraft is coming to an end. I don't see attack helicopters being super effective against a modern military. Just looking at how Russia rolled into ukraine in the first days with their heli's and getting a bunch of them smacked out of the sky with relatively older tech shows how far things have come a long. Theres definitely some operations where they can't be beat but on a large scale I think they'll become obsolete due to their vulnerability..
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 17 күн бұрын
@@jlo7770 main battlefield use of "low and slow" aircraft, especially helicopters in an attack role *might* not have much future... But the helicopter for troop transport (to near the battlespace), supply, and the other assorted support and specialty roles are here to stay, till something beyond tilt - rotor aircraft come online.
@jlo7770
@jlo7770 17 күн бұрын
@@williestyle35 I think it largely depends on the theater of operations.. who is fighting who, ya going into a 3rd world country with little to no air defense, not much to worry about. Fighting a major country with adequate air defense I think it'd be a different story. I know I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a helicopter on the front line in ukraine, way too many have gone down on both sides.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 17 күн бұрын
@@jlo7770 yep. That is partly why I listed some of the "other" roles helicopters fulfill, away from the main battlespace. But even "3rd world countries" can challenge "low and slow" attack aircraft - see the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and American stinger missiles. But in general you are correct : in most theaters outside of the heavily militarized countries - air defenses will be weak enough for most any aircraft like the A - 10 or attack helicopters will have many more opportunities (though such "3rd World" theaters of operations also a kind of a waste of the supposed "main role" of a "tank buster" like the A - 10 because they would have few if any tanks to bust).
@Jeffrey-c2z
@Jeffrey-c2z Ай бұрын
The F-15 has been a singularly successful airplane, due to it's designers at McDonnell Douglass. They produced a plane that has been and continues to be one of the few truly great fighter planes. With advancements and upgrades to its airframe and avionics, this plane will continue to be an effective fighter.
@FranckLarsen
@FranckLarsen 10 күн бұрын
Wait a minute. The F14 is a vital part of this story. It needs be mentioned!
@AstroDork
@AstroDork Ай бұрын
Great video. I bet shes kicking herself at the "5000 tons more..." slip up at 11:45. She obvioulsy knows what shes talking about
@goobfilmcast4239
@goobfilmcast4239 2 ай бұрын
Modern Stealth Fighters like the F-35 will enter contested airspace first. With its more limited payload, the F-35 will take out air defense system creating a "path in the sky" and send targeting data back to F-15s carrying a whole bunch more boomy booms to finish the job. Think of the F-15 as a Missile Truck....that can fly at over mach 2 and turn on a dime. Upgraded F-15s will speed up the retirement of the B-1. The B-52 will still be around awhile, however. The Pacific is a BIG Ocean.......
@amphilbey
@amphilbey 2 ай бұрын
Love these videos, thank you. Growing up in the 80s with the Cold War went to many airshows and love visiting the IWM with the kids
@steveharvey6421
@steveharvey6421 2 ай бұрын
The combat in air to air is amazing.
@SanDiegoHarry1
@SanDiegoHarry1 2 ай бұрын
let's be honest... the EX is to the MudHen what the Rhino is to the F/A-18. It's a whole new weapon's system disguised as an update.
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 2 ай бұрын
Except the Rhino is even more radical, with major aerodynamic changes that goes with everything else. The F15’s fundamental aerodynamics has stayed basically the same, just having some nicer nozzles and a sick flight-by-wire system (finally)
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 2 ай бұрын
@@SanDiegoHarry1 Can we not just continue to lie to ourselves, reality is so harsh.
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC Ай бұрын
Yup. The Qatari version was very good which made the USAF take notice when they realized they could not afford and operate an F-35 only fleet. Just the FBW alone gave it an additional pylon on each wing.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
​@@MotoroidARFC it was not only that the USAF could not *afford* to fully replace the F - 15 with the F - 35, it is also that the F - 35 is not as dominant in the air to air combat role. While there might not be as much closer range air combat in coming years, the F - 35 is a more "versatile" aircraft, for multirole and "strike" missions, but less for mixing it up with other specialist fighters.
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC Ай бұрын
@@williestyle35 they can't even afford the operating costs for the ones they have now. They're using them less to reduce costs.
@Rob-lq2ny
@Rob-lq2ny Ай бұрын
Because F35 is still unable to fully replace F15 and fix major issues.
@Orbital_Inclination
@Orbital_Inclination Ай бұрын
F-35 was never intended to replace F-15
@rogerjohnson6676
@rogerjohnson6676 3 күн бұрын
@@Orbital_Inclination no, it was intended to replace all the air force inventory, which it will never be able to do. The US Senate has regressed back to the time of McNamara and the TFX programme, and we all know how that worked out. Build a plane to do a job and do it well, no one asks an MBT to transport infantry, or to drop artillery rounds. F-35 and lemon are synonymous in my thesaurus.
@Orbital_Inclination
@Orbital_Inclination 3 күн бұрын
@@rogerjohnson6676 no, it was not. This is simply not true.
@rogerjohnson6676
@rogerjohnson6676 3 күн бұрын
@@Orbital_Inclination really. It's got a navy version, a marine version, an air force version. It's supposed to be ine size fits all, just like the F-111. And we know that that was a complete farce in the end. You can't have a true multi role aircraft that's any good at one job. And I'm sorry but air superiority is the job I want some properly. Hence the F-15, and the F-14. I give you one question, what price freedom. The F-35 will never be made in enough numbers to do anything well.
@cheekeongchan6605
@cheekeongchan6605 Ай бұрын
The F-15 has been upgraded extensively via the F-15E series through overseas sales. Foreign countries paid for integration of various weapons, etc. Saudi Arabia paid for the fly by wire upgrade. Having easy access maintenance panels on the airframe also helped. The current latest F-15EX is an advanced and modern non-stealth fighter equivalent to any other despite being a 50 year old design.
@Landonia_
@Landonia_ 11 күн бұрын
the picture of the F-4 with the Jolly Rogers livery at 6:39 looks like a DCS screenshot.
@993isgawd
@993isgawd 2 ай бұрын
The USAF policy makers likes to point out that five F-15s couldn't fend off a single F-22 in a simulated combat training exercise. Of course the generals who sanctioned this exhibition have been trying to _justify_ the cost of each of those very pricy and somewhat operationally limited Raptors. From an original desire to have around 750 F-22s, the Air Force could only actually afford a number less than 200, each coming with an internal weapons bay that doesn't allow a lot of flexibility when comes to ordnance variety and mission types. Multi-role the Raptor clearly is not. And THAT is exactly why the Eagle is still very much alive and kicking.
@clydedoris5002
@clydedoris5002 2 ай бұрын
Raptor is still arguably the best fighter in the world for 20+ years
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC Ай бұрын
​@@clydedoris5002just not cost effective for mundane tasks
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
​@@MotoroidARFC the problem with the F - 22 "Raptor" became the "mundane tasks". It simply was not designed with enough mission flexibility and was never going to be cost effective to fully replace the F - 15. The real shame of cutting back the F - 22 order to less than 200 aircraft is that it cost us a bunch more money per aircraft delivered. The internal weapons bays are essential to the F -22's "stealth", but as mentioned, it is a limiting factor on the missions and munitions the F - 22 can complete. sad
@evokki0075
@evokki0075 4 күн бұрын
Wish F-14 would have been as successful. Much more beautiful design.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Күн бұрын
It was expensive as hell to maintain just like his brother F-111. Those swing wing designs dont give much benefits for amount of maintenance hours they require for safe reliable flight (also F-14 if we account inflation was more expensive per unit then F-22).
@jamesrussell5620
@jamesrussell5620 2 ай бұрын
Just being a Gary - you show MiG 23s when you are talking about the MiG 25
@notreallydavid
@notreallydavid 15 күн бұрын
Is the F-15 the fastest non-weird, non-one-trick pony aircraft ever? (I'd count the MiG 25 as one of the hyperspecialised oddities.)
@luffirton
@luffirton 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s one of the best decisions the US Air Force have done to date. Why depreciate a winning design for a new design that’s not known to be a new winner. It is the ultimate superiority multirole fighter and by giving it new more effective and fuel efficient engines, new avionics, better radar and technology it can continue to serve. Not only should it be more cost effective to operate in larger numbers but will allow for the US to have a fighter that can go inn first or second in a conflict for the next 40-50 years depending on the type of treat environment. It will be the F-35 or the F15EX going in first to establish air superiority with F-22.
@douglassauvageau7262
@douglassauvageau7262 2 ай бұрын
Consider the legacy of the B-52, C-130, et al. Sustaining the production of proven airframes / platforms and incorporating improvements in avionics, weaponry, et al seems a winning strategy. Recent history testifies to the need to sustain operations beyond the "Shock and Awe" phase.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 2 ай бұрын
Magnificent machine.
@geraldapollyon655
@geraldapollyon655 5 күн бұрын
And I will always be salty that the F-14 Tomcat didn't get the same treatment that the F-15 got.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Күн бұрын
Can you F-14 fans learn that swing wings are hard to maintain and are 10 times more expensive then fixed wing designs. Brand new F-14A was more expensive per unit then F-22 if we account inflation.
@kalashnikovdevil
@kalashnikovdevil 5 күн бұрын
Honestly calling the F-15EX an upgraded F-15 is a bit of a misnomer... it's a whole different animal compared to the C model. It just looks like the C model, under the hood it's a whole new airframe.
@jackdaugaard-hansen4512
@jackdaugaard-hansen4512 2 ай бұрын
The F15 first flew in 1972 and was put into service 4 years later, a comparison would be an early aircraft from the 1900s being used in the Korean War, or ww1 fighter in the Vietnam war or a world war 2 fighter in the gulf war, of course technology was changing a lot more back in those days but it’s still pretty cool
@dert693
@dert693 2 ай бұрын
Great vid! Thanks for the info.
@daniel_lucio
@daniel_lucio 2 ай бұрын
"Moral questions", oh my God...
@The_kneidlach_engineer
@The_kneidlach_engineer 2 ай бұрын
No moral implications during Gulf Wars...
@michaelodonnell7011
@michaelodonnell7011 2 ай бұрын
@@The_kneidlach_engineer Come on... They had weapons of mass destruction. If only Dr David Kelly hadn't got injured. Ask Tony Blair.
@The_kneidlach_engineer
@The_kneidlach_engineer 2 ай бұрын
​@@michaelodonnell7011sarcasm?
@everythingman987
@everythingman987 2 ай бұрын
It is often stated that the F-15 was a reaction to the MiG-25. This is only partially true. The FX program that birthed the F-15 was already under development before the US learned of the Foxbat’s existence. Some program requirements were changed after the US learned of the Foxbat, and many design changes to the McDonnell FX concept were made that resulted in the F-15, but the FX program was not the US’s “response” to the MiG-25.
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 2 ай бұрын
So it is partially true then.
@On_The_Piss
@On_The_Piss 2 ай бұрын
Yes, and the US definitely didn’t lose the Vietnam War.
@LuGer212
@LuGer212 2 ай бұрын
USSR: build a scam. USAF: I will so wholeheartedly overspend, overengineer, overeverything - and it's gonna work, actually.
@SalemGhassanHanna
@SalemGhassanHanna Ай бұрын
Was the MiG-25 a scam? It was never meant to be a dogfighter, just a high-speed interceptor. The USAF only ASSUMED it would be agile.
@WesSites
@WesSites 2 ай бұрын
The F4 was a fantastic aircraft, its problem was the doctrine not the weapon system. The aircraft was designed to make aerial kills BVR, and the doctrine at the time required visual confirmation before the pilots were allowed to fire upon the enemy. A limited war is one you cannot win, something the US has continued to fail to understand.
@grantchin1526
@grantchin1526 2 ай бұрын
4:04 dangerously close to scraping the ground!!!
@keithwaller4545
@keithwaller4545 Ай бұрын
Its just the best modern fighter made and still looks so good . And for 90% of the time 👍
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 2 ай бұрын
Great work IWM
@venonat80
@venonat80 9 күн бұрын
Why is the F15 still flying after nearly 50 years of service? It’s because Russia and China haven’t caught up yet. Its so bad that in a data breach NK and China had gotten plans for the F15 and a number of other US military planes but it doesn’t do them good since neither country has the capability to manufacture or copy the exact specifications and technology in the war plane.
@darbyheavey406
@darbyheavey406 16 күн бұрын
Good design….thats why. A nod to Colonel Boyd, USAF would be nice.
@johnkochen7264
@johnkochen7264 2 ай бұрын
Why the F-15 is still flying? Because it is still an awesome jet. Kudos to McDonnell for this amazing fighter.
@billevans7936
@billevans7936 2 ай бұрын
Could be the large presence in the European theatre ...just maybe
@sheilah4525
@sheilah4525 2 ай бұрын
IT’S THAT GOOD.
@vanroeling2930
@vanroeling2930 4 күн бұрын
If the F-15 EX is so wonderful, why is it being assigned to National Guard units stateside and not front line air bases such as Kadena in Japan, Anderson in Guam or Ramstein in Germany??
@kabuki_kitten7129
@kabuki_kitten7129 2 ай бұрын
greatest plane of all time, unless you count the v2 as a plane cause thats really really cool
@markymark3572
@markymark3572 2 ай бұрын
Still one of the world's finest fighters.
@StevenKeery
@StevenKeery 2 ай бұрын
Nice looking plane.
@songkok7hitam
@songkok7hitam Ай бұрын
F-15EX just genius.
@CarlSöderquist
@CarlSöderquist 2 ай бұрын
You said the new engines produces 5000 TONS more thrust. Some engines!
@chrisenright7003
@chrisenright7003 2 ай бұрын
That's about 5 kilotons.
@rm5902
@rm5902 2 ай бұрын
good heering She did apologize
@CarlSöderquist
@CarlSöderquist 2 ай бұрын
@@chrisenright7003 That is near the thrust of the Apollo rocket program.
@CarlSöderquist
@CarlSöderquist 2 ай бұрын
@@rm5902 Oh she did? I didnt get that, but it is nice of hear.
@matts9
@matts9 2 ай бұрын
well done!
@janusz4156
@janusz4156 2 ай бұрын
50 years of F-15 in 2022 - fighter-icon and flagship fighter of Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War nad Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation.
@trevorross2167
@trevorross2167 2 ай бұрын
LANTIRN, not LANTRIN - lol
@gardeningniceperson
@gardeningniceperson 2 ай бұрын
@@trevorross2167 the us military just loves their double meaning acronyms
@EthanRawlins
@EthanRawlins 2 ай бұрын
The best of the best fighter!
@jacuzzibusguy
@jacuzzibusguy 17 күн бұрын
Is it true the f15 can accelerate past the sound barrier while ascending straight up?
@alucardofficial7074
@alucardofficial7074 8 күн бұрын
The host for this show is excellent.
@kenny102000
@kenny102000 25 күн бұрын
What does the F-15 do that the more recent F-16 and F-35 don't cover? (genuine question, I don't know much about military jets)
@Skrramjam
@Skrramjam 22 күн бұрын
Higher payload and longer range mainly
@dumdumbinks274
@dumdumbinks274 20 күн бұрын
The F-15 has a kinematic advantage in air combat, as well as achieving higher altitudes. This translates to longer effective engagement ranges for missiles. The latest version's radar is also considered the most powerful radar mounted on any fighter globally, and combined with it's size providing more room for electronic equipment, it has an advantage in electronic warfare too.
@noneofyourbuisness2539
@noneofyourbuisness2539 5 күн бұрын
F-15 hopes to down the F-16 long before it can engage, with it's better radar and more specialist anti air role. The F-16 might pose more of a problem in a dogfight, if it can survive closing the distance. Kind of like a sniper compared to regular infantry.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 2 ай бұрын
Really need its own movie.
@TheCleric42
@TheCleric42 29 күн бұрын
One mistake at 6:52: the first Space Ace was Amelia “Buns” Nakamura. See Tom Clancy’s Red Storm Rising for details.
@darthioan
@darthioan 19 күн бұрын
@@TheCleric42 not sure if this is to be meant as tongue in cheek
@Mors_Inimicis
@Mors_Inimicis 2 ай бұрын
It’s a shame the USAF aren’t able to procure more of the EX model . I’d have loved to have seen the 493rd FS at Lakenheath move to the EX when the C/D’s went away instead of the F35. (This is purely a selfish aviation enthusiasts viewpoint though)😂
@DefiantSix
@DefiantSix 2 ай бұрын
To synopsize the video: because the score is 104 - 0.
@St_Lucifer_Morningstar
@St_Lucifer_Morningstar Ай бұрын
Correction: Not a dog fighter but an air dominance fighter, aka a missile truck.
@Martin-on2pp
@Martin-on2pp 2 ай бұрын
Hawker Hunter. Newer is not the same as better here...
@wilsnh9148
@wilsnh9148 2 ай бұрын
It seems to me that those aircraft that had tremendous speed and agility all boast variants of the delta wing.
@BarstoolChiraq
@BarstoolChiraq 9 күн бұрын
Why does the F-15 STOL/MTD at 4:01 have a camo paint scheme? I thought that was a NASA test platform
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Күн бұрын
That is picture from model kit, not IRL SMTD paintjob.
@victorortiz193
@victorortiz193 2 ай бұрын
If you design something really well, it will last forever. The F 15 is the literal pinnacle of military aviation, not the F22 and not the other platforms that came after it... The king of the air, the strike eagle...
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 ай бұрын
the strike eagle is a multirole, so I'm pretty sure the F-22 interceptor would be the nowadays uncontested king of the air. just saying...
@viperdriver82
@viperdriver82 2 ай бұрын
Excuse me ....the F-16 is still flying and being manufactured....and in greater numbers than the F-15 ....I like them both ..but I'm not going to lie I'm partial to the F-16....put some respect on F-16s name
@luffirton
@luffirton 2 ай бұрын
The f-16 is a very capable lightweight fighter with very good trust to weight ratio, but the F-15 is ultimately going to win more battles by having an extra engine, much better maneuverability at low speeds, able to carry much more weapons to a target and has downed over 100 enemy fighters that is truly a record hard to beat even for the F-16.
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 ай бұрын
It's just the most produced modern fighter jet with more than 4k units produced till now and I rest my case.
@ncander64
@ncander64 2 ай бұрын
F-16 is a great interceptor, but the F-15 is the best all around fighter-bomber. In other words, it can do the Falcon’s job and more. The F-16 is an awesome plane though in its own right.
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 ай бұрын
@@ncander64 Never said the opposite, just that the falcon, now on frame 70/72, is the most mass produced modern jet. Also, pilots do make a difference too. Cheers. BTW, the F-16 is not an interceptor (unlike all F-15 except the versions of their strike eagle and more recently the EX Eagle II, which are more mission alike to the F-16 but with bigger frames with bigger payload) like all Eagles (exclusively Eagles, no matter the version/block but the eagle II) are. Sorry for the edit, but remembered I missed this point, that you pointed the F-16 as an interceptor when in fact all it's blocks are made as a multirole fighter.
@xgford94
@xgford94 2 ай бұрын
Um aka. A Bee v Murder Hornet, both can kill but …
@Boppinabe
@Boppinabe 2 ай бұрын
Yes. The F-15 is the greatest combat aircraft of all time and any country that is serious about air defense would have 350 at least. F-15: They're BIGGER than BIG! When they fight battles, they ALWAYS win! And they're your friend, too! With the F-15, you're BUSTIN' loose! They're BIG! And SCARY! Hahahaha... And they help people, too! And they're your friend, too! F-15: Tough, awesome, lookin great! And all your friends will want one for their friend, too! F-15: F*** yeah! And this is why 9 out of 10 countries choose AMERICAN DEFENSE.
@luffirton
@luffirton 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you it’s the most capable fighter ever designed but the reasons for different countries not adopting the f-15 is costs of operations. The aircraft’s both operating cost and lifetime cost is very high and many nations can’t justify that over a variety of capabilities and a broader military capability like a Navy and Army.
@StrikeBuster-b2b
@StrikeBuster-b2b 2 ай бұрын
F-15, you sexy beast.
@WrittenbytheVictorShorts
@WrittenbytheVictorShorts Ай бұрын
Well presented!
@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby 2 ай бұрын
7:50 not MIG-25s, obviously
@davidrobertson5700
@davidrobertson5700 2 ай бұрын
F15 is an absolute bomb or missile truck that can carry OBSCENE payloads and surprise the enemy untold. Even can fly without a whole wing. Real . Dressed up it is an F22 with less payload. Great aircraft that means business (F15) Nice one USA. From 🇬🇧
@chenrayen
@chenrayen 2 ай бұрын
104 and 0 lookout below
@xgford94
@xgford94 2 ай бұрын
HLC WAS HERE
@nobodyisbest
@nobodyisbest Ай бұрын
Nato's first line of defence was the Bundeswehr and the Luftwaffe in the air.
@Orbital_Inclination
@Orbital_Inclination Ай бұрын
And forward stationed NATO forces, including aircraft like this
@jeremiahreilly9739
@jeremiahreilly9739 Ай бұрын
Nice history. Way too many advertisement interruptions.
@Orbital_Inclination
@Orbital_Inclination 13 күн бұрын
The channel doesn't set the ad policy, that's KZbin itself
@jeremiahreilly9739
@jeremiahreilly9739 13 күн бұрын
@@Orbital_Inclination Thank you for your response. I don't know who sets what. My comment was solely to point out that when I watched this video, my viewing was interrupted way, way more than normal: like 3x more than the normal KZbin interruption rate. I liked the video very much, but I would hesitate to watch more videos on this channel if the interruption rate is so high.
@janlindtner305
@janlindtner305 2 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@robtomben
@robtomben 2 ай бұрын
Can maintain stable flight without wings. Successfully shot down an orbiting satellite. Never been shot down. Thats enough right there.
@simonpeart7981
@simonpeart7981 2 ай бұрын
The F4 Phantom is the greatest fighter jet of all time. No fighter jet saw more action with more countries in more conflicts than the F4. No fighter jet has ever flown with the USAF, USNavy, US Marines, Royal Navy, RAF, Luftwaffe, etc, etc. It was both the aircraft used by the USAF Thunderbirds and the US Navy’s Blue Angels, and the Royal Navy took a big step back when the Harriers replaced the Phantoms.
@luffirton
@luffirton 2 ай бұрын
Well if the metrics are how many countries use a fighter then the f-35 now takes the winner medal, and will surpass the F4 without issue when it enters future conflicts
@gardeningniceperson
@gardeningniceperson 2 ай бұрын
I have to disagree. The F4 was flawed in many respects as shown in the video. In the situation where it was used it could not deliver. Flaws which the F-15 did not have to that extent. Maybe the F4 was more widely used, but certainly not the greatest.
@tommypaget2294
@tommypaget2294 2 ай бұрын
The F-15EX is still being produced.
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 ай бұрын
Really? Wow... that's why the National Guard just the the very first out of the line (mass production, not test jets) some days ago, being the first EX Eagle II to enter service... There are still almost 100 on the lines for the US only. As an export version, time will tell - Israelis are already after it, just out of curiosity...
@JMK948
@JMK948 2 ай бұрын
Who's here after that strike on Yemen?
@aceman67
@aceman67 2 ай бұрын
"104 & 0, look out below!"
@copperrobocop978
@copperrobocop978 Ай бұрын
19/20 January 1991: F-15E-46-MC, 88‑1692, c/n 1101/E076, of the 336th FS, 4th TFW, USAF, was shot down by an Iraqi SA-2E missile during Operation Desert Storm....so not dogfighting but they have lost one.
@ldkellandshaw
@ldkellandshaw 2 ай бұрын
The Sound of Freedom...
@John14-6...
@John14-6... Ай бұрын
Does anyone know how the F-16 compares with the F-15 in simulated dog fights?
@265justy
@265justy 2 ай бұрын
@ 1:10 she states an F-15 has never been lost in combat.. That is simply very false. Perhaps no F-15 may have been lost in air to air combat, but some have been downed by ground fire.. 2 confirmed F-15Es were lost in the first Gulf War to Iraqi ground fire and a few more unconfirmed accounts of Saudi F-15 losses over Iraq and Yemen.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 Ай бұрын
State your sources. The ones that were shot at from ground weapons did receive damage and were out of the fight. But they did manage to limp back to base.
@265justy
@265justy Ай бұрын
@@Wargasm54 17/18 January 1991: F-15E-46-MC, 88‑1689, c/n 1098/E073, of the 335th FS, 4th TFW, USAF, was shot down by anti-aircraft artillery on the first day of Operation Desert Storm.[6][25][26] 19/20 January 1991: F-15E-46-MC, 88‑1692, c/n 1101/E076, of the 336th FS, 4th TFW, USAF, was shot down by an Iraqi SA-2E missile during Operation Desert Storm. Both crew members ejected and were POWs.[6][25][26]
@265justy
@265justy Ай бұрын
@@Wargasm54 17/18 January 1991: F-15E-46-MC, 88‑1689, c/n 1098/E073, of the 335th FS, 4th TFW, USAF, was shot down by anti-aircraft artillery on the first day of Operation Desert Storm.[6][25][26] 19/20 January 1991: F-15E-46-MC, 88‑1692, c/n 1101/E076, of the 336th FS, 4th TFW, USAF, was shot down by an Iraqi SA-2E missile during Operation Desert Storm. Both crew members ejected and were POWs.[6][25][26]
@265justy
@265justy Ай бұрын
@@Wargasm54 You have a thing called Google... Look it up. Several sources state the same thing.. . 2 were shot down in the first Gulf War.. 1 on the first day of the war by heavy gun fire from the ground.. A 2nd was lost to an SA-2.
@jlo7770
@jlo7770 17 күн бұрын
​@@265justylol I love when people post "source?" They know you cant link anything in yt comments and clearly are too daft to use a search engine. "Send me a link of this claimed thing you said that in my mind is false because I'm too lazy to type it into a search engine". I'm convinced people that type in "source?" Are beyond teaching, their mental abilities are too far gone to be taught anything and not worth wasting one's time on.
@christianphillipampoloquio6484
@christianphillipampoloquio6484 Ай бұрын
Sorry I have no time to watch all that, what roles can the F-15 fulfill that makes it a necessary jet to keep even until now?
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC Ай бұрын
Mundane tasks that don't need stealth.
@themann9801
@themann9801 Ай бұрын
In most aerial combat after Vietnam, The US usually have the upper hand in early detection, long range and beyond visual combat capability than its opponent such as Egypt, Syrian, Iraq and so on, thus F-15 can't be called the greatest since the US never met a challenge like Russia does in Ukraine.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip Ай бұрын
The US still has that advantage, but it doesn't discount how well an Eagle can absorb real battle damage and still return to base.
@themann9801
@themann9801 Ай бұрын
@@doujinflip Yes, but don't call it the greatest when opportunity of true modern scale battle haven't presented itself. Call it the most capable jet fighter would be fair.
@Skrramjam
@Skrramjam 22 күн бұрын
@@themann9801it did face off against the Iraqi military in the early 90s which was considered to be one of the most powerful and advanced in the world back then
@themann9801
@themann9801 22 күн бұрын
@@Skrramjam I don't think so, Iraq was exhausted after Iran - Iraq war, and Iraq didn't train like American train, so not an equal opponent.
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Ай бұрын
Not hypersonic bombers, supersonic
@grantchin1526
@grantchin1526 2 ай бұрын
11:34 5,000 lbs not tons!!!
@spana123321
@spana123321 2 ай бұрын
The Lightning, 2 jet engines with a pilot strapped on capable of Mach 1 in a vertical climb👍👍👍👍👍
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