Why the Violin is harder than the Guitar

[@thebenevolentsun6575]

All instruments have infinitely high skill ceilings, but all have different skill floors. Piano is one of the easiest instruments to play, yet has some of the most challenging pieces composed for it.

[@Bloorgusgoorge]

Not at all lmao piano is one of the harder instruments for beginners to grasp especially considering for instruments like guitar, bass you have readable tablature when with piano you have to actually learn how to read sheet music not to mention the fact on other instruments you don’t really have to learn syncopation between both hands but on piano it’s a huge part, I’d argue it’s in the realm of hardest instruments to start on

[@thebenevolentsun6575]

@@Bloorgusgoorge I'm talking about the skill floor.Its the easiest to play a note on.For example, it's easier to play Mary had a little lamb on piano than it is on guitar. It's easier to play a C major chord on piano than on guitar. There's a reason keyboard is usually the first instrument you learn to play in music class. Another example, most people would struggle to play even a single note on a flute, whereas literally everyone can play a note on the piano. I'm not saying the piano is easy, I'm a piano player and I know how difficult it is.

[@Ren-lx8wv]

@@Bloorgusgoorge bruh I learned to play. Kamado Tanjirou no Uta in one day without ever touching a piano before. It’s pretty damn easy to start out.

[@Tortualex]

​@@Bloorgusgoorge music theory has nothing to do with making an instrument sound. Also there aré piano tablatures you know?xD

[@joebidet3606]

@@Ren-lx8wvyou didn’t learn how to play the piano, you learned how to repeat a song on it. You dont learn proper technique, develop rhythmic skills, or learn anything behind what you are playing. It’s monkey see monkey do. Not to take away from learning your song because music is beautiful and fulfilling, but playing songs and actually learning an instrument are completely different things

[@colelikeinminecraft]

i don’t understand why people try to compare instruments like they are equal, they do different things and have different possibilities, thats the beauty of it all

[@joosepkaha1687]

Mhm

[@helmetbro1685]

right? obviously violin is one of the hardest instruments and they be like "wEll iF yOu saY s0, yoU aRe dIsREspEcT tO pIan0 aNd gUiTar..." that's sound so fcking stupid

[@conordreiss1467]

If you ever felt useless just remember that this video exist of a guy watching the same thing we’re watching and adding NO commentary

[@eeeeee8762]

The difference between me and him is he gets 2.4k subs for it which has the potential to kickstart a career if used correctly meanwhile I’m useless all day long and don’t get anything from it

[@BxJct0]

the commentary is the text above him and he is demonstrating how to do it right

[@Willy_Warmer]

There commentary in text above him you idiot

[@Zikeal-d4l]

ironically imagine being the one complaining about it, who do you think is more useless?

[@doeverything2707]

​@@eeeeee8762 take a deep look on the mirror lol

[@sixpounderbo406]

you know how to make the guitar sound good? -Proceeds to pick a note badly

[@yamomsballs]

Right lmfao

[@yeetusmccheesey]

Exactly 😂

[@IMajst3RI]

Yes, even picking a single note takes months to practice. Learning proper two handed muting takes years.

[@lilbitlifted]

That honestly hurt to watch.

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

he sucks at both lmao mofo should take the harmonica instead

[@halcyon7111]

This guy is going to lose his mind when he finds out about fretless guitars

[@Traumglanz]

Oh Violin frets :D

[@TallicaMan1986]

Fretless micro tonal 7 string.

[@yeetusmccheesey]

​@@TallicaMan1986exactly lmao wait until he finds out what slide guitar is

[@-.a]

Still easier than violin due to the strings being longer.

[@beckhamrajkumar2093]

​@@-.a no instrument in easier or harder It depends on how you play Just like you, can't play either of them decently

[@PjRorke98]

The dude just really dismissed the entirety of picking technique.

[@rayres1074]

Picking can be hard sure but no way harder than violin bowing. Also the very concept of playing a micro fretless neck is haunting for me That being said noise cancelation is a very tough skill as well

[@themaskedmusician4846]

I’ve played both and I think guitar is harder

[@EliPorterMahn]

​@@rayres1074 youre forgetting about the multitude of picking techniques on the guitar especially if you play metal

[@Tylerb1324]

If you can play guitar you can play violin. That's what my music teacher told me. It's basically the same just with a bow. I've played guitar for 16 years now and picked up the violin and was playing simple songs in a week.

[@haye101]

@@themaskedmusician4846 playing both and playing both good is not the same😂

[@bodhistieber1340]

The initial skill curve of violin is harder, although getting to a professional level on both is about the same difficulty

[@oobruv6598]

definitely not the same my dude

[@eelamite]

W take

[@eelamite]

anyone who disagrees hasnt played either. for eg you never see jazz musicians having arguments like this, just saying from experience lol

[@Proud_Troll]

Sussy baka, do you even know who Paganini was? Stfu

[@chasseblanc]

@@eelamite absolutely wrong. actually think before commenting next time

[@redrhododendron1023]

I’ve tried to learn both the guitar and violin, and playing the violin felt more natural to me. The guitar having two more strings made it more confusing to start off with, not to mention the tablature. I also thought the guitar’s strings were more painful to press However, the violin does have challenges too. Tuning the guitar was easy, but tuning the violin (with pegs) gives me anxiety! The bottom of the violin also gives me a “hickey” after I practice for extended periods of time. Bow alignment, tone quality, vibrato, staccatos, and intonation are also a pain in the ass. I haven’t learned it yet, but I’m certain left-hand pizzicato will be very difficult too Overall, I think both instruments would be very difficult to master, but the violin is more difficult to start. Posture, bowing, and intonation are very difficult when starting out, especially if the beginner doesn’t know if they are playing in tune Personally, I love classical music and prefer the violin, but I think the violin and guitar both shine in their own repertoires!

[@thedankknight8333]

Why does it matter if one is more difficult. Shouldn’t it be a burden (not talking to you specifically)

[@redrhododendron1023]

@@thedankknight8333 It’s good information for those considering learning! A beginner might not want to learn the guitar if they find out pressing the strings is painful (many don’t know before starting) Also, some instrument players (professionals and hobbyists) like comparing the difficulty of their instruments to make fun of other musicians (jokingly of course). It’s like how violinists sometimes make fun of violists for having easy parts

[@joebidet3606]

@@redrhododendron1023is it true that violists are looked down upon by violinists and cello players

[@redrhododendron1023]

@@joebidet3606 I wouldn’t say “looked down upon” (maybe in the past), but violas are kind of the laughing stock of the string family (in a joking way). Their parts are usually easier to play, too, which may lead to the idea that violists are less skilled than violinists. I’ve definitely heard my fair share of viola jokes online and from musicians and students, and I don’t know anyone who doesn’t enjoy a good viola joke. Here’s one for you! (I heard it from a violist) What’s the similarity between a violist and a lawsuit? Everyone is happier when the case is closed

[@dosterix6034]

@@thedankknight8333 that's literally the topic of the video

[@derrickkorstick8984]

Violin is harder to pick up for a beginner, but they're both equally hard to master

[@michaelwojcik2597]

Wrong

[@derrickkorstick8984]

@@michaelwojcik2597 care to explain how so? 🤣

[@paulgordon1595]

@@derrickkorstick8984 Nope, because he can’t 😂. They ALWAYS compare camp-fire strumming or easy rock guitar to classical virtuosic violin compositions…and somehow think it’s apples to apples. They can’t even name truly difficult guitar pieces, their perceptions are warped. Guitar might possibly have the highest skill ceiling of any instrument, though the skill floor is obviously easier than violin.

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

@@paulgordon1595 cause mods violinist are fucking nerds who dont know shit about guitar lmao

[@fallsunset5862]

What I've learned from playing multiple Instruments is that even though an instrument maybe easier to play it will be harder to master

[@Airlo-rk8wj]

Both of these are hard as hell to master though

[@fallsunset5862]

@@Airlo-rk8wj not really because when you play something easy to play people always want the next level of skill. And when playing something hard to play everyone reaches a boundary they can't cross, usually around the same skill level. So no one's really regarded as a master.

[@coolguy4709]

@@fallsunset5862 Define “master”.

[@toast3990]

​@@coolguy4709 Having complete knowledge and control

[@PescaColorata]

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[@celestialrift]

I can play both. Once you memorise the note positions on violin, it's really not hard. The number of techniques on the violin compared to the guitar makes the guitar more difficult in the long run imo. Frets don't make things much easier when your instrument is as versatile as the guitar.

[@tinyisnotugly9146]

Lol if memorizing note position on the violin was the only thing making not that hard then everyone would be a pro. Intonation is already hard enough with the Bowing

[@stackhom656]

It's kind of misleading when he says we have tons of space to fret a note when in reality we need to be accurate with our fretting hand as well. If you move further away from the fret you will either buzz the note or have to increase the force for pressing on the strings. High level guitar playing will make more use of the space in between frets especially with chords with big stretches.

[@celestialrift]

@@tinyisnotugly9146 I mentioned only note positions because his argument was that guitar is easier because of the frets. There's intricacies to both instruments. I still hold however that a true master of the guitar has to account for more techniques and subtleties than a true master of the violin.

[@tinyisnotugly9146]

@@celestialrift I dont know about more techniques than violin at a proficient level but we can agree to disagree.

[@-.a]

Lmao you definitely don't play violin

[@SoggyBacco]

as someone who played violin for 7 years before guitar it depends a lot on what you're playing. for example playing fast without legato or even just basic arpeggios took a very long time for me to get comfortable doing on guitar and the scale length allows for the same note to be in multiple places all over the fretboard. it is an easier instrument to pick up but the versatility gives it a much higher skill ceiling

[@musicalbrit3465]

I'd caution saying it has a "higher" skill ceiling than violin given the utter insanity of most violin repertoire, the same if not higher level of versatility, and composers consistently pushing the boundaries of what is considered possible on the instrument. Pretty much every instrument has an infinitely high skill ceiling- there is ALWAYS more to learn and room to improve!

[@cthulhuman6162]

Conclusion: playing guitar poorly is easier than playing violin

[@paulgordon1595]

Exactly

[@untitledshoe6069]

As a guitarist and a violist (basically a slightly bigger violin) they play completely differently and both have their difficulties. Some things are easy on one and some things are hard but one isn’t necessarily easier or better, just different.

[@marcgimenez9729]

Slightly bigger and slightly out of tune

[@imagiFantasy]

​@@marcgimenez9729 viola jokes, viola jokes! Violas are a also important to the string family, to the orchestra, just like any other instruments!

[@nathanchishi7245]

Viola

[@reesej319]

So, some rebuttals: 1) You cannot play anywhere inside the fret, it will go a micro tons flat if you go further back, and you will end up with fret buzz. 1a) on violin, you cannot press too hard on the string since it will always be the same note, but if you press the string too hard on guitar, you will go sharp. 2) the spaces in between allow you to raise/lower your pick/finger between notes, a micro motion that you do not have to do on violin, it actually will hinder the speed at which you can play. 3) there is absolutely a correct pressure that you have to apply to the strings using a pick/finger. if you pick too hard, it sounds rough, too soft and you will barely play the note. there are some examples as to why beginning to learn the violin is more difficult than begging to learn the guitar, but you missed on all the points you gave.

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

he sucks at both thats why lmao

[@chemsomnia]

I played violin as a kid and learning guitar is so much harder for me

[@Elias-qj7dq]

Yeah we aint mentioning guitar techniques like alternate picking, hybrid picking, thumping, arpeggios, sweep picking, tapping, tapping natural harmonics, hammer ons, pull offs and many more difficult ass techniques

[@bonbonbillyboo2649]

Violin also has its own set of techniques as well. Additionally, it also shares some of the techniques that you listed above; hybrid picking (its own version), arpeggios, hammer-ons and Pull-offs. In my opinion however as somebody who’s played both, the two are just too different in terms of playing to actually consider which one is "more difficult" because some things may be hard on the guitar than violin, vise versa.

[@syndesys]

The video only makes sense if we're talking about which one is harder to play chords on tbh

[@n0tjake95]

@@bonbonbillyboo2649 yea and these techniques on violin take years to be able to play for each one. On guitar, it can take weeks of even just hours to learn things like pull offs and hybrid picking and right hand tap. Hardest on guitar such as sweep picking and pinch harmonica may only take a few months so yea violin is just objectively a harder instrument to play initially and master

[@masterskywalker8877]

@SubLevelSeverty11 and all that?

[@angrytedtalks]

You are still missing the point that the violin is harder, less flexible perhaps, but very difficult to make it sound good. Davie504 vs TwoSet demonstrates this. Not one of those techniques is easier on a violin incidentally, but all still possible.

[@directorzakkattakk]

I agree it’s easy at the beginning but any instrument is as hard as you decide to make it.

[@pr0d]

As someone who plays both. The violin is the hardest to learn at first. But the guitar becomes a lot more complicated when you get past the basics. I think both instruments sound amazing and are worth learning

[@nathanchishi7245]

No bro playing violin has never been easy at any point

[@pr0d]

@@nathanchishi7245 never said it was easy

[@blehhblehhhh]

as someone who played violin for four years and could barely even play ode to joy (i play guitar now) yeah, it’s way more difficult 💀

[@2174863]

Violin is harder to start in but I feel guitar definitely has more challenging pieces you can play and advanced techniques like sweeping, tapping, and hybrid picking which some guitarists use all at once.

[@datboi4216]

@@2174863 yeah. It’s also difficult to get the dexterity to do all of that in an actual song even after you learned to do the techniques

[@stevenchen9852]

@@2174863 ?????? Guitar has more challenging pieces??????????? What?? Your challenging the violin on who has the hardest piece you know the hardest and most famous worldwide piece made by people like Paganini, liszt, Kreisler are all on the violin right. You can even transfer Mozart and Beethoven. Like do you know music theory at all. Argue with anyone teacher music professors and they would say the hardest pieces of music current exist in two instruments piano and violin. Not saying other instrument are easy but it’s just facts. Also I’m not biased because I played the guitar but transfer to violin and know differences now. Like hello la Campanella literally I took months to try to get how the angles work for the violin like you need to stroke at an specific angle just to make a sound…. Imagine playing caprice in D major or C major like it’s stupid hard

[@2174863]

@@stevenchen9852 Yeah, but look at artists like Rafael Trujillo or some of Obscuras work their solos are insane. Bands like archspire, necrophagist, spawn of possession, beyond creation or even infant annihilator look at their solo on unholy gravebirth or crucifilth. May not be your style of music but these are very talented dudes who take guitar to the next level. The intricacy in their work hitting the strings in certain areas to affect tone. 180-200 bpm or more sweep picking, alternate picking runs etc. Tosin Abasi also has a very unique sound with his selective picking and thumping rhythms.

[@stevenchen9852]

@@2174863 ok I said it already mastering any instrument is difficult in its own rights even people say mastering a triangle is hard. But I’m just saying violin is generally harder than an guitar I don’t know how to explain it because we can be comparing pieces for days I can get out like 100 of violin pieces that are really hard and you can probably too for the guitar but let just say this violin you have to find the notes guitar you don’t. And for the violin you need an certain stroking position in order to even make an sound and it has to be with precision if you don’t it will sound like you are scratching on a chalkboard, but for the guitar its pretty easy to make major key notes. Every instrument is hard to master but violin is just different idk how to explain it you have to play the violin to know I played the guitar for 4 years idk maybe google the violin or smth. I’m sry but I need to restate the argument there a reason why piano and violin can have an solo elite performance in front of many people on a completely empty stage and there’s a reason why these two are the instrument that rain supreme and change the music industry. Like who doesn’t know Beethoven or Mozart and if you have any contact with music you probably know fur elise, eine keline, alla turca

[@senerio2124]

I would say guitar easily has the highest skill ceiling still. There are so many extra skills that you can pick up like fingerstyle, drumming, etc. that turn the guitar into a true force to be reckoned with. Guitar masters never cease to amaze me with their compositions + arrangements

[@clone501]

The reason my school does not have electric guitar in our band as an instrument option is because it is a very difficult instrument and most middle schoolers would not be able to learn it quickly, plus the first 6 months you get a crap ton of blisters. Guitar is arguably the one of the hardest instruments to play. I mean playing little riffs and one sting stuff is pretty easy, but once you start shredding it’s a whole other story, not to mention all the different techniques like alternate picking, hybrid picking, thumping, arpeggios, sweep picking, tapping, tapping natural harmonics, hammer ons, pull offs and many more extremely difficult techniques

[@felgon4950]

Exactly, all the people saying guitar is easy have spent their time strumming chords and one string rhythms. In reality to be able to say how hard the guitar is, you must experience the top level of shredding

[@YacheezReal]

when I started playing guitar I just played through the pain of my fingers and now the blisters have built up so much that I can barely feel my finger tips

[@corybrown4648]

If you want to experience top level shredding, watch Hilary Hahn play Paganini.....

[@clone501]

@@YacheezReal same lol

[@vincentb5431]

I'm a guitarist but I'd also say violin is harder.

[@woodlock7494]

guitar might be easier at first but its skill ceiling is way higher 💀

[@redrhododendron1023]

The violin arrangement of super difficult pieces like Der Erlkönig might make you change your mind

[@conner7875]

​@redrhododendron Yep, I tried learning the violin and still can't play ode to joy in tune for about 2 years, then I kinda changed into percussion

[@paulgordon1595]

@@redrhododendron1023 A truly difficult piece, indeed. May I ask what you consider a difficult piece on the guitar? I would like to see if you’re capable of making equal comparisons.

[@Xian-y1u]

Nah just search for Marcin Patrzalek and we're done

[@speed7944]

tbh, at the highest level they are just different, with both being equally hard. It's like trying to compare an basketball player and a soccer player.

[@SuperPinhead123]

I never once thought violin was easier than guitar

[@TheMobplay]

To be entirely fair classical guitar has the same (if not even higher) level of complexity since you directly control the tone with your hand(nails) giving you so much more colour and contrast and thanks to using your Fingers, youre able to play wayyy more polyphonic.

[@jonahtillman9499]

I don’t even have enough energy to make my defence for the guitar. I’ll tell you, I’ve been playing for 51 years, and my grandpa for 84. There’s a reason we’ve stuck with it for so long

[@MinusStatue11]

I've played and owned a violin for about 2 weeks now. And with the help of a phantom fret sticker, atleast 2 hrs+ of practice everyday, a little self taught and KZbin on how to read sheet music and how to vibrato. It's been both fun and a workout playing, but already getting the grasp of things. I 100% recommend trying it out.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic4061]

There's, no "all that space" to play a note beacouse you must put your finger nearly on the fret beacouse either way your strings will buzz

[@donaldmacgregor2628]

your guitar must be set up horribly if that’s the case

[@switchmusic3099]

@@donaldmacgregor2628 no it’s basic knowledge check any video of guitarist on KZbin absolutely no one will put the finger in the middle of the fret it’s always near the edge higher side

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic4061]

@@donaldmacgregor2628 bro, it is common knowledge...

[@mr.coolio4321]

Guitar is much easier to "learn" compared to violin, but many times more difficult to master.

[@bread6085]

I would say they are both insanely hard to master.

[@goatedjayfn8052]

Damn, I feel bad, I’ve seen the strings in my orchestra have to play Tchaikovsky😭

[@jordanj9069]

The fundamentally easier an instrument is to play, the more complex compositions can possibly be played on it This is why piano will have INCREDIBLY complex compositions performed, guitar with less complex compositions performed, and violin with less complex compositions being performable And yet the difficulty of the most difficult piece on each instrument is basically identical, because all have been made popular enough to be pushed very, very close to their extreme limits, by very, very gifted and dedicated people

[@Jaruq]

Man’s A string is sharper than Einstein

[@2miligrams]

piano: easy to learn hard to master guitar: kind of easy to learn hard to master

[@joel7041]

Violin imo is one of the hardest instruments to learn

[@thedankknight8333]

Yeah but it really shouldn’t matter

[@exGio]

​@@thedankknight8333 wdym?

[@thedankknight8333]

@@exGio boi don’t act like you made a comment saying it doesn’t matter. Stay mad

[@cutecandygames1874]

@@thedankknight8333 ?

[@thegoofiestgoooberr]

@@thedankknight8333 lmao what are you on

[@Renvil_]

While the Violin is "harder to learn", it's at the same time more limited in what you can do with it compared to a guitar. What I mean is that in relation to playing Melody and Rhythm parts at the sime time, and to adapt to play in different keys, the guitar has a lot of advantages. Additionally, there is such a thing as Fretless Guitars, and Steel Guitars, where the same accuracy of note placement is just as hard to get right as on the violin; but more strings. Lastly I also wanted to give a mention to the National Instrument of Norway; the Harding Fiddle "Hardingfele" which again is an even more complex version of the Violin.

[@alexhedges5055]

As someone who has recently started playing guitar after previously having played violin for 3+ years. I would have to say guitar is much harder to learn at a minimum

[@Phantomghost-hm9bw]

Guitar is easier, but which one has the badass solos and power chords

[@redrhododendron1023]

The violin has some pretty badass solos too! Check out a few violin concertos and you’ll see what I mean :)

[@bobby_smhurdas_hat8314]

I play both. Violin is hard as fuck

[@beckhamrajkumar2093]

That's cos ur noob

[@fansihsahn7973]

I’m a violinist. Every instrument has different levels of pick it up. Yes guitar might be easier to pick up than violin. However, every instruments have unlimited hardness eventually! Piano is super easy in the beginning, but see how it goes later!!

[@filiprushis6076]

We dont have to fight for whats the most difficult to play instrument, every instrument is diffrent

[@shinguy]

Both instruments require a great amount of skill to play well. Guitar is easier in the beginning, but both require countless hours of practice to master. Violin would be easier to play than guitar if you had spent your whole life playing the cello, but guitar would be easier to play if you spent your whole life playing the ukulele.

[@Komi8]

It's all about getting used to the instrument. Once you get used to the guitar, you can play without looking at it.

[@claryyy]

to be honest that goes for violin too

[@Komi8]

@@claryyy exactly.

[@LandonQizilbash]

From my experience with cello and guitar, Jumping between strings is easier on bow than pick. And you do have to pick correctly to get the right tone. But the fret thing is true, learning the right positions on fretless is very hard.

[@PeiqiLi-RealLove]

比较谁更难意义不大，最重要的是谁作用更大。用锄头重地比开拖拉机种地难，但没有意义产量太低

[@3000DS3]

Wise words from a wise man.

[@thedankknight8333]

Wise

[@angrytedtalks]

TwoSet approved.

[@eelamite]

Thank God for the translate update im saving that quote for later .. wise saying

[@Insignia27]

I do feel that guitar has a higher skill ceiling though

[@wombat1_]

As a guitar player I won't try to argue the difficulty; however, pick attack on the guitar is something you need to worry about and people don't realize that and it's one of the things that adds to that stereotypical "beginner sound"

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

One of the best things about guitar is practically *anyone* can learn to play to _at least_ a basic level I learned from a book in 3 days - been playing for 20yrs 95% of guitar players don't sound like the other 5% though; and of that 5% only 1-2% actually master the instrument.. in that respect, I'd say the *vast* majority of violin players are more accomplished than most guitar players

[@flatridefanatic]

Technically you can play pizzicato with the violin so a bow isn’t strictly needed for a sound to be made

[@chaseheatherly]

As someone who plays the violin, I can confirm it takes time to get good at it, but guitar feels more awkward in my opinion.

[@azxtnt]

I mean, playing bass there are 2 directions I can go with this…

[@thedankknight8333]

Yep 😂

[@bigdicktyrone]

what an insightful video i dont know what i would have done without the guy on the right nodding in acknowledgement

[@EliPorterMahn]

Wait til that guy hears about complex guitar parts

[@idk9637]

Yep. Im a guitarist and violin is the hardest instrument. Though at the highest level they are even id say. Since all instruments become maxxed out the the capabilities of the human body at the highest level.

[@kaya_y.]

The way I look at it is some instruments may be easier or harder to make a proper sound on, but past the rudimentary skills required to play the instrument, it doesn't really make sense to talk about one instrument being more difficult than the other. There are some things on every instrument that can only be done with years of dedication and practice.

[@Obi-WanKannabis]

The thing is, an instrument that is easier to play will allow you to play even more complex technical music, so it evens out. But if you just mean to play basic music, then yes, violin is harder than guitar.

[@PabloCardonaMusic]

Well electric guitar is way easier, not sure it's a fair comparison. On acoustic guitar it does matter where and how hard you press within the frets, it affects the pitch and the clarity. Guitar it's also more physically demanding as you gotta press multiple strings, and the fretboard is longer and wider which means your hand has to jump around more than on the violin fingerboard, maybe a cello and double bass share this problem which would make them harder than violin.

[@ukaszwojtaszek2429]

Wait till he hears about sweep picking, shredding and basically all the coolness

[@syndesys]

Saying that electric guitar is way easier is not only insulting but shows absolute ignorance and lack of awareness to the levels of complexity that can be achieved on the electric guitar. In case you want to have an idea and drop the ignorance, check out artists like Jason Richardson or John Petrucci.

[@PabloCardonaMusic]

@@syndesys Well of course someone with an electric guitar profile picture would say that lmao I guarantee you whatever these guys are playing on electric guitar is much harder to perform using an acoustic guitar, they have higher action and thicker strings, not to mention you actually have to do the job when it comes to volume and projection instead of having an amp do it for you.

[@syndesys]

@@PabloCardonaMusic "of course someone with an electric guitar profile picture would say that lmao" - How ironic coming from you don't you think? And of course stuff made to be played on electric would be harder to play on acoustic. Impossible even. The scale runs reach the 24th fret on the electric guitar which doesn't even exist on acoustic. The reach for lightning fast scales on acoustic guitars past the 12-14 fret is so bad you can hardly consider it. And what is it that you're saying about the amp? You have to play extremely cleanly and mute strings perfectly and constantly so that the amp doesn't pick up unwanted sounds, even if it helps with quieter sounds like the ones from tapping. As an electric guitar player, I can play both electric and acoustic. I'm not sure you ever even tried to play an electric to say such things. I'll leave you 2 examples and you can tell me if they are even CONCEIVABLE on acoustic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHjVdWydm69_kJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKrJiWmJjJ6Lr9U Meanwhile, there is nothing that you can play on acoustic that you can't play on electric. The skill ceiling on electric is therefore higher.

[@PabloCardonaMusic]

@@syndesys You just keep proving my point. Yes, you can play fast with more ease and that is precisely because electric guitar is easier to play lol Of course I've played electric, I always have to remind myself to loosen my grip because there's barely any action on the strings, on acoustic you actually need to strengthen your hand, and also since the amp is helping you with the volume you don't really have to put any weight on the pick. Which brings me to the videos you sent, yes I've actually heard things of that speed on acoustic, here's an example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jofPc4OuiLefebM Do you really think those guys could play as fast and clear, and still be heard across the room, without amplification, and say it's easier? Obviously not, this is a non question, acoustic guitar is more physically demanding, that's why electric is much easier

[@therealvargas833]

Guys calm down, it’s harder to play the violin 🎻 but it’s harder to LEARN guitar 🎸. You win some and you lose some, c’mon people.

[@MR_C0D3X]

I take pride in knowing that violin is harder.

[@thedankknight8333]

I don’t. That doesn’t make it better or more fun to listen to

[@thedankknight8333]

It is more difficult to cultivate with a hoe than to drive a tractor, but it makes no sense as it yields to low… - Japanese guy in the comments

[@exGio]

​@@thedankknight8333 Nobody said that. Y'all act like it's a competition like bro it's harder than a lot of instruments so what?

[@thedankknight8333]

@@exGio your proving my point. There should be no pride in knowing one is harder than the other meaning there’s no reason to compare

[@SnowHertz]

@@exGio you literally just said what he said lmao

[@thekidtrey1949]

“You just pluck the string” lmao this guy would have a heart attack trying to alternate pick 😂

[@beckhamrajkumar2093]

This vdo is just like comparing a baby lion with a grown dog A violinist holding a guitar and comparing it to the violin It's kinda insult if u ask

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Picking is something that sounds easy but its actually very difficult, especially if you stop looking down at where you are picking when trying to alternate pick different strings. I found starting on violin easier since your face is always looking at where you are bowing.

[@lukastaylor1397]

*pedal steel guitar enters chat*

[@corybrown4648]

I play all 3, guitar, pedal steel and violin.... Wtf is wrong with me?....

[@fokionegolfopoulos]

OPINION! I play piano harp cello and I played violin for 5-6 months and I learned so much more

[@kryogin]

alright yeah, it is more difficult... but can you play the bass line, add the melody and play with the harmonies all at once?? not to even mention actual pleasing chords haha

[@FattyBlunt007]

Actually yea. It's hard as fuck to do, and the bass line will only be as low as G3, but it can.

[@redrhododendron1023]

You should watch Hilary Hahn play Erlkönig on the violin. It’s very cool! It’s a notoriously difficult piece that includes both an accompaniment and melody!

[@thedankknight8333]

Okay 5 notes at the same time violinists 😢

[@redrhododendron1023]

@@thedankknight8333 Might as well ask guitarists to try vibrato and trills while you’re at it 😜

[@ihatecereal1763]

@@redrhododendron1023 guitar vibrato is a bit different from violin but we can do both of those 🤨

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

Depends on what you're playing. Polyphia riffs are harder on guitar because of the intricacies they introduce, such that even an experienced guitarist struggles if they don't have experience shredding, while someone who's really good at Polyphia might really struggle with Frusciante's weird thumb muting because the hand positions are entirely different, whereas once you've truly mastered the fundamentals of the violin there's very little that challenges you on the higher levels. The skill curve for violin is front heavy while for guitar it's end heavy. Simple as that

[@aykutkubat3352]

There is fretless guitar, so... Hear me out! VIOLINS WITH FRETS!!!! Edit: They already made it. It seems someome already taught of this.

[@andrewarnold3982]

Yes the violin is harder But guitar just sounds better💀

[@mathdantastav2496]

as a guitarist learning the violin, the left hand doesn't bother me that much, the lack of frets is relativly easy to deal with, but the bow, holy shit the bow sucks

[@bodoke8266]

As a violinist, I can confirm

[@VanessaDMusic]

Violin and viola are absolutely some of the top hardest instruments

[@ismo11]

There are many techniques in playing guitar. Hold the fret and pluck doesn’t even scratch the surface. Do pinch harmonics for example, but do it consistently.

[@angrytedtalks]

There are multiple techniques on violin also. The point being made is that even to sound reasonable on a violin is far harder than a guitar. Any mandolin player will tell you that bowing is super hard to sound good and even pizzicato sucks on a violin compared to a fretted instrument being plucked or strummed.

[@JobForAMaxboy]

To be fair, violin is famously a difficult instrument. But the advantages that guitar has which make it easier, such as frets, also enable you to play chords, and bend notes. A large part of what makes guitar so special is stuff that just isn't even possible on the violin in the first place. In fact, that's what makes every instrument special. It has unique attributes that nothing else has. Despite both being stringed instruments, they're too different to compare

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

violin is harder cause is an inferior instrument stuck in the past just like classical guitar lmao

[@alkaliforever9051]

I agree with this mostly, as a guitar player I did notice there were a couple things wrong. You do infact need to play close to the fret for the most full sound and closest in tune. And yes frets are much easier than having none. Also the amount of different ways to pluck strings were not accounted for; palm muted, alternate, economy, down, percussive strumming, tapp harmonics, and many more. This is in no way a dis on violin and I respect all musicians deeply, I nearly write this to inform. Keep on jamming everyone.

[@kaeden5940]

You don’t have all that space, the space is only for spacing out where you play so the strings sound right, you’re supposed to place your fingers as close to the fret as possible, you also only need to tune a violin. With an electric guitar you need to tune it find the amp settings get tone and sometimes a pedal

[@iMeteox]

It also has the adverse effect that shitty guitarists are a dime a dozen, leaving you stranded and wondering "how the fuck do my heroes sound so good but me and my friend don't?"

[@7vreja7]

It's hard to get started on violin, but guitar has a higher skill ceiling by far.

[@paulgordon1595]

Totally agree. I have trouble comprehending how people don’t understand this. It’s so easy for us to say “the violin is SIGNIFICANTLY harder to become proficient at than the guitar”, but everyone gets into shambles when we talk about the skill CEILING of guitar. The versatility should be obvious, I would think, but then again….this is a KZbin comment section lol

[@jamesmiddleton8335]

He makes the point of being able to press anywhere within the fret and it being in tune, my counter point to that is that pressure on that fret can make notes go sharp, whereas on a violin the string is on the fretboard, so the note cannot be pushed any further to make it go sharp 🤷‍♂️. Each instrument has it’s own quirks that makes it more difficult than another, I’d say the biggest thing that separates guitar, specifically electric guitar is how much technique varies based on amp tone.

[@rantorreview144]

The skill ceilings for both instruments are so high that literally doesn’t matter. Sure violin is hard to learn but both have such a high ceiling.

[@trentonloomis9565]

Violin is an instrument where you can put several years of work into it, and play something flashy that sounds decent. Guitar is an instrument where you can put a few months of work into it, and play something thats extremely flashy, and doesnt need to sound good. From a 6 year Thrash-groove guitarist.

[@thatgoodstuff2197]

For guitar it's not as simple as just strumming. There are endless ways to play a guitar, just as there are with a violin. But these techniques are different and I personally don't think one is harder than the other. It takes incredible talent and practice to be excellent at both.

[@jessegroen3792]

Violin might be harder, but almost nothing he said about the guitar is true.

[@BobGnarley.]

less strings, smaller neck (less stretching), lighter in general, no picking technique, no strap you brace it firmly under your chin - there's tons of things that make both instruments hard. If you're just pulling at open strings of course the guitar will be easy.

[@allofthepoints9636]

Too bad violin by itself sounds like a cat in labour doing an impression of a diabetic parrot.

[@jaredbarnes7181]

I play them both and honestly felt the violin was easier. But i learned it after learning the guitar. The placement of my fingers on my guitar was always right behind the fret. The fractional difference is the same on all stringed instruments. Half the string is double the octave and so on. It was just micro adjustments and muscle memory development.

[@jerrythemagicalllama]

He's correct on almost everything but I will say as a bass guitarist that, no, you cannot "use all the space inbetween the frets" to play notes. Your finger has to apply pressure right behind, almost on top of each fret bar or else the note may not resonate correctly

[@Alice-p4c7y]

Me for 6 years .... "That sounds bad". "that sounds bad". "ThAt sounds bad"...

[@alien_jerboa]

Well this comment section isn't what I expected. It's true that a violin is harder; There are a lot more techniques to it. However you shouldn't be comparing the difficulty between the instruments anyway. Mastering guitar could be just as hard as learning the violin.

[@malvinyct2544]

Hell no The hardest instruments is the triangle of course

[@gmailaccount880]

Violin is easier for playing fast notes and scales accurately, but sounding good is easier on guitar

[@taffles7498]

im not a violinist so i cant really say much but how is it easier to play scales on a violin accurately? dont u have to care about intonation

[@gmailaccount880]

@@taffles7498 it’s not that hard to learn basic intonation if you put some tape in the right spots to memorize it

[@eelamite]

ive gone from a fretted to fretless bass. its a bass sure but there wasnt much of a difference from what i felt, it felt easier to do certain things in fact

[@Aschuff22]

@@gmailaccount880 HAHAHAHAGAGAHAGAHGA. Tell that to everyone professional violinist who’ve been playing since they were a little child that STILL practice scales every single day. Ignorance is bliss I guess

[@gmailaccount880]

@@Aschuff22 dawg i played violin for like 10 years

[@jacques-yveschollet]

Started getting anxiety with the millimeters comment, secretly have a new appreciation for my frets..😂

[@guitarsebb]

Depends on what genre you play, if you play some of that pop crap it's supeeeer easy just play a few chords and then you can call it a song. But if you play the more Heavy stuff like Thrash Metal, Death Metal, 80s hard rock there will be a bunch of crazy solos you have to play. But overall the violin might be harder idk.

[@williamangliss5063]

Mentions nothing about guitarists being responsible for harmony. Comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges, they're inheritly different with their own separate challenges

[@buttfckmcgraw4722]

The frets are there to give a specific sound not to tell you where the notes are. Hence the reason for fretless guitars. Also you don't just pick the string, you have to angle the pick for alternate picking or picking fast. Not to mention muting the strings not being played or palm muting for riffs. Also hybrid picking and economy picking are just a whole different world of practice.

[@patoblando]

This is like saying piano is easier than violin cause you play a note and it sounds good

[@randomuser6064]

Violin complexity is also the reason why it's limited . You can do finger style , harmonics strum, and even play it like a mini orchestra

[@Freedom_writerHope]

Oml if your even slightly off of where your finger is supposed to be on a violin string, then it sounds awful! It’s so hard to play 😭

[@jimbop8880]

Every instrument has its quirks but I’d say it’s easier to pick up guitar than violin but at a professional level they’re just about equal

[@luvrism222]

guys, he never said guitar was easy to play. did he? no instrument is easy to play. it takes practice and feeling and creativity!!

[@LARON-S]

Bro does not know about our fingers becoming french fries while playing chords 💀

[@NinjaDefiler]

No one ever said "I want to be a violin star"

[@donaldmacgregor2628]

thousands of people have said that before

[@dr.pepper3658]

Anyone can play the guitar and it’s pretty easy but mastering the violin is much harder and sounds way better

[@dr.pepper3658]

Fire take past me