Why Things Can Only Get Worse with Keir Starmer | spiked podcast

Graham Linehan - the comedy writer behind Father Ted and The IT Crowd - joins Tom Slater and Fraser Myers to discuss the UK General Election, the trans-activist takeover of a rape-crisis centre, the death of Iran’s Ebrahim Raisi the ICC’s outrageous arrest warrants.
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[@DamoBloggs]

It's incredibly depressing that a man that most people don't trust or like will get into power because there is no better alterative...

[@terry9819]

Yeah, but we got rid of Boris in the end.

[@JckSwan]

Well perhaps the Tories should've done what they were elected to do. The Red Wall voted Blue and they completely failed.

[@user-jg2nq6ll4c]

STOPPED THE BOATS FOR STARTERS🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬

[@marumaru6084]

So much evidence of the UNI party.

[@andrewp5180]

Covid

[@user-jg2nq6ll4c]

CONvid, more like🤬

[@action1976]

That's still no reason to vote tory? Vote Reform UK give them their chance to run the country and see if the follow up on their pledges. Because I am certain Labour won't.

[@mariasinfiltros1478]

Thanks Graham for standing up for women’s and children’s rights

[@Kralex]

Getting high off your own farts isn't helping anybody. He abandoned his wife and kids to be a jerk. That is not 'standing up for women and children'

[@etherspin]

​He didn't abandon anything and is fighting to stop mentally ill kids getting castration, mastectomies, hysterectomy,arm maiming, cross sex hormones and terminated puberty instead of real health care. Additionally he is trying to ensure women are safe in hospitals,prisons, shelters ​@@Kralex

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

@@Kralex yes he is standing up for women and children you could learn a thing or two from him

[@zeldagoblin]

To be a jerk? I don't think that's on the divorce papers. Grow up.

[@Kralex]

@@zeldagoblin Read his book. His own words. He destroyed his own relationship.

[@peterteagleteagle9958]

People forget how bad it was ,the last time Labour where in power ,and the last time a lawyer lived in Downing Street

[@InfernalPasquale]

What was so bad about Blair's years? It was objectively an economic and social golden age. The UK was one of the wealthiest and most influential countries in the world, the NHS was the best healthcare system in the world. I could go on...

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@InfernalPasqualethey destroyed the English constitution and laid the groundwork for erosion of democratic accountability. Everything is farmed off to quangos and unaccountable courts and institutions. Mass immigration, expanding university education, hate speech laws, race relations laws, enabling and financing islamism. The list is endless.

[@ianHolmes-up2oc]

No it wasn't this country was better off under the last labour government

[@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757]

no it wasnt it was exceedingly better than now! stop talking crap!

[@sqwalnoc]

We're in for a rough 5 years boys

[@shelleyscloud3651]

Unfortunately we still have a majority who need to learn the hard way. Hopefully they will have by the election after…..

[@JCRezonna-dl5qz]

As opposed to the last 14, which have been a total breeze. At least a good proportion of respondents in these comments know this clip is is a huge gaslight, but not all, who are either suffering from Stockholm syndrome or are winning big, amid the chaos.

[@shelleyscloud3651]

@@JCRezonna-dl5qz please don’t confuse a dread of Labour as an endorsement of Tories.

[@notalefty999]

@@JCRezonna-dl5qz The Tories have been awful, but that does not mean things cannot get worse. By all means, do not vote Conservative. They are obviously losing so whether Labour will be worse or not is moot. They will get in regardless, so you might as well vote for Reform to at least signal there is demand for further to the right than the useless Tories.

[@sqwalnoc]

@@JCRezonna-dl5qz I don't like the tories either, I see them basically as traitors at this point. But labour?.. they are ideologically captured nutcases.. remember.. things can always get worse..

[@danielwatson3273]

Always good to see Graham, don't let them grind you down mate.

[@ktonelle]

30 min is too short! So happy to see Grahan Linehan with you. ❤

[@annal2740]

Graham! What a treat...

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Starmer will be the British Justin Trudeau. You guys better get ready for a hell of a ride.

[@clovermark39]

We have no choice I’m afraid. Not looking forward to it. Can’t believe this is what they call democracy.

[@iantobanter9546]

27 years and counting in Wales, we know what's coming. Go Reform!

[@Voidwurm1701]

My Synthwave brother!

[@acacia_w]

I've been saying exactly this. It doesn't bode well! I hope to be proven wrong....

[@user-xu5vl5th9n]

Why now? If the Palestinian cause was so important to these countries, why did they not recognise "Palestine" years ago? This cynical virtue signalling not only rewards Oct 7 but makes those atrocities more likely to be repeated.

[@ohwellwhateverr]

And they’re silent on Yemen, Syria, the Uighur genocide in China… They only care when they can blame the Jews.

[@etherspin]

Exactly. It's posing

[@mycatspethooman5590]

Purely for votes, labour and tory are happy to thow everyone under the bus for the seat of power, to hell with the citizens so long as they get to sit in the hot seat

[@SimonWallwork]

The Tories have made such a cock of things- they should be ashamed. I have no doubt that Labour under Keir Starmer will continue along the same road. Just because things are bad, doesn't mean they cannot get worse.

[@nickgood8166]

They will get worse.

[@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757]

@@nickgood8166 crystal ball have you!

[@pauljermyn5909]

My dad said to me "if labour are the answer, it must have been a bloody stupid question".........

[@critical_thinker73]

Does he think the Tories are the answer?

[@pauljermyn5909]

@@critical_thinker73 2 cheeks of the same arse............

[@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757]

bit like your dad then!

[@davehallett810]

80 years since D Day.....Oh well at least we're not speaking German, just 200 other different languages...🤔

[@tommyrotton9468]

but we all learned what Allahu Akbar and Jihad means regardless of their first language

[@DieFlabbergast]

Good language, German: could be worse. Come to think of it, it probably WILL be worse.

[@wentoneisendon6502]

Makes you think which is worse, taken over by nazis or Islamic jihadists?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

​@DieFlabbergast 'WILL'? What reality you living in? It IS worse

[@wavell14]

I'd rather be speaking German. Deutschland den Deutschen.

[@Rekaert]

I don't disagree that Labour will be worse, or at least continue on the destructive path the Tories put us on, but that's on the Tories, frankly. They had one of the best voter mandates in recent history and did nothing with it. They just saw the mandate, thought oh that's nice, and sat on their hands and took it for granted. In some cases they actively prevented some Tory MP's from trying to do what the voters wanted. The people who are going to pay for that is, well, all of us. We need a viable third option, because two party politics is disastrous when those two parties align on the same damaging policies.

[@drachman3149]

You are absolutely, despairingly correct. What a country. What a betrayal.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

But the Tories achieved exactly what they wanted to achieve: suck all the money out of the country to themselves, their billionaire mates and their offshore accounts. {:o:O:}

[@user-jg2nq6ll4c]

Well, I wouldn't put any money on the Reform Party being our saviour ......... they're a 'manufactured' Party full of WEF Globalists. They should've got rid of Tice as their leader, because there's more people who don't like his smarmyness than do, and that's going to tell at the ballot-box.

[@simanothername3035]

Controlled democracy you are free to vote for whomever you like, but it doesn't affect policy. After all, you have just watched the least conservative government with the biggest majority in a100 years continue Blair's vision.

[@Rekaert]

@@simanothername3035 Yes, all depressingly true.

[@martin4787]

Sir Sharia Starmer will knock the final nail in our coffin.

[@mrror8933]

Make sure to downvote him on 4/7.

[@johnmartin7158]

I’m voting Labour. A landslide awaits.

[@danielwatson3273]

He'll try to finish what Blair started, to ruin the UK for his globalist masters, I actually feel sick at the thought of Labour in no 10.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

True. Country taking leave of their senses

[@774Rob]

The public need to learn that labour are no different to the Tory's, and the only way that happens is to have them in charge. Four years from now they'll be as popular as the Tory's are today.

[@kubhlaikhan2015]

Wont take 4 years for that.

[@answerer-mo8by]

Will probably be even less popular, that's the irony

[@MrMarmalizer]

Everything bad that’s happened under the tories has done so because the leadership has been far too concerned with their own public image and a desire to be liked by the media and the elite class. They’re so weak it’s sickening. However, all the bad stuff will be amplified under Labour. These are worrying times.

[@Theforestbandit]

if their is going to be a future for our children labour and conservative are not the way forward. give REFORM UK A CHANCE . Even if it just for four years. We have had 14 years of Tories and unelected Priministers who have done nothing for Britain. Except wreck it !!!

[@david1731048]

What are your favourite Reform policies?

[@christinerussell113]

Mr Linehan, thanks for your stance on behalf of women. We appreciate and salute your courage. Thanks also for reminding us that most men are thoroughly decent and caring people, not the weirdo, aggressive, women haters who, in large part, make up the radical trans mob.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Let's also not forget that this all stems from the.progressive movement. From feminists thinking that men aren't decent caring people, all the way to the push for trans rights. I notice, that just like linehan, you're all fine with impoverishment and destruction, right up until it turns on you.

[@Christine-ry1qq]

Totally agree, he’s been brilliant throughout this absolute nightmare.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@Christine-ry1qq he was on their side until they turned on him. People have short memories.

[@christinerussell113]

@@curiositycloset2359 Really, I don't remember any speeches or interviews in which he expressed support for the trans extremists. Further, his stance has severely damaged his career, with even the proposed Father Ted show cancelled.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@christinerussell113 no, that's what you dont understand. He voiced support for all the usual things. He didn't get the memo on this one. No doubt you supported all the same things, but this one was a step too far. You need to trace it back, see where it stems from.

[@denisesumpter7750]

Indeed. I don’t trust Starmer, either. I have never voted Tory, but I can’t vote Labour. The way he has treated women, the nonsense on gender from MPs, the way he has treated Rosie. All misogynistic and disgusting. They have a woman problem..

[@Bakeroo]

Completely agree, I can't vote Labour over this issue. I've never voted Tory in my life and probably never will but at least their attitudes on this issue are rational, sensible and fair. Things will get worse for women under Labour.

[@darthlovejoy3811]

The vote is for blarite blue vs blarite red, god help us

[@HarryG88]

Anyone debating Douglas is in for a very disappointing evening :)

[@stanlibuda96]

Glinner the Great!

[@wentoneisendon6502]

Graham!! Absolute travesty how much how he's been cancelled for speaking common sense

[@lyndamenashe577]

Thank you Graham, Tom and Fraser for your pure, unadulterated sense of 'right'! Spiked keeps my hubby and I 'company' in this insane and oftentimes, obscene world.

[@harrisonbell7257]

Starmer will say anything for power. Very frightening

[@LikeMothsToAFlame]

I think it worth mentioning the New Statesman, for all it's flaws, will still feature articles by Hannah Barnes discussing the transgender cult, so if nothing else, they are one paper on the liberal side of the spectrum willing to say something.

[@BobBob-cn1yy]

# England is full

[@misterrbojangles]

The whole world's population could fit in the Texas. There's plenty of space worldwide. Open your eyes and see!

[@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757]

of Racists and Bigots!

[@stewartkarol757]

This is the time politicians tell you what you want to hear and we fall for it every time. I do not consent.

[@1972jjb]

Starmer will likely be ineffective combatting the growing extreme wealth inequality, whilst appeasing all of the wrong people at the lowest end. The middle and lower middle will pay even more. In our haste to punish the Tories for not being conservative, we will let in something worse. There was a too short lived unified correction in 2019. Let's hope another one comes along by 2029 and lasts better.

[@charlesdavis3802]

some great insights "... aristocracy..." " People whose hearts are bigger than their brains..."

[@jdshore]

The question is do you want to vote for Labour or Labour lite (tories) 😢

[@dannyarcher6370]

Vote Reform!

[@kellieheald]

I adore this man.

[@gavinedric6353]

What an outstanding Podcast.

[@rozzgrey801]

We need to rewrite the D-Ream song in time for the election, "Things can only get worser, can only get worser, now we're lumbered with you, you, a knighted lying lawyer too."

[@rahbourelas6457]

Roll out a party with conservative values! The Tories have forsaken them, Labour never had real values, Reform may be the only hope for the UK!

[@ajpeagle]

Corruption lies and incompetence should mean half of the Tory party is in jail not government.

[@goodgood9955]

A barister who won a human rights award. What do you think is going to happen?

[@mrror8933]

YT censorship is wild.

[@doyle6000]

what do you mean?

[@RPaton]

Comments are removed if they might affect ad revenue for YT. Simon Webb on History Debunked has a video on the subject.

[@englishincontext4025]

The unbelievable thing is that there is no longitudinal study tracking what happens to kids post surgery.

[@ribbonsofnight]

It's very believable if everyone in power has an ideological position that says there's no other treatment option. It would be like Putin looking for evidence that people were not happy with him ruling.

[@timbrown1897]

the theme for starmer should be you have not seen nothing yet

[@rozzgrey801]

Or 'The End' by the Doors.

[@SuperBlinding]

Great Conversation.

[@InfernalPasquale]

That claim that there isn't a cigarette paper between Labour and the Tories is simply ridiculous. Starmer's Labour are a lot more left-wing than people realise.

[@ribbonsofnight]

Yeah, but so are the people who implement the policies. Yes Minister shows what's been happening the last 14 years.

[@InfernalPasquale]

@@ribbonsofnight Yeah, saying that the last 14 years of absolute insanity and cruelty are the same as what Labour are offering is such a bizarre take

[@mrcynicalgooner]

" Starmer's Labour are a lot more left-wing than people realise." Are you claiming this is a good thing?

[@ribbonsofnight]

@@InfernalPasquale The most insane and cruel things that the tories have done is all Labour policy.

[@InfernalPasquale]

@@mrcynicalgooner Did you actually read the preceding sentence? Blindingly obvious that my comment was regarding the difference between the Tories and Labour.

[@shelleyscloud3651]

Graham!!!! 👏👏👏

[@mahtism]

a man down my local calls keir starmer "queer starmer"

[@denisesumpter7750]

😂🎉🎉🎉

[@louiseparker1915]

So do I !!!

[@denisesumpter7750]

I will no longer trust The Guardian because of how Hadley and Suzanne were treated. Vile and misogynistic!

[@BobAbc0815]

I guess one of the Problems with Twitter "Activism" is that is terribly cheap, easy and convinient. So "Activists" have few Incentives to ever bother about what they support.

[@robertmcalpin2304]

sad but true

[@davidgardiner4720]

In the name of all that's sane, HOW?

[@Renagerda]

Anti Zionism is NOT antisemitism..not by a long shot!

[@MsJackrussell2]

Zionism is believing that Jews should have a homeland. If you don't believe in that concept, then yes, it can be argued this is anti-Semitism.

[@mrror8933]

If you want to end this labsh!tshow, get off your sofa and vote.

[@dystopik32]

The tories need zero seats

[@RPaton]

Reducing methane emissions?

[@ribbonsofnight]

much like the SNP, labour, greens. They won't all win zero seats.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Labour ate corrupt

[@1800astra]

At least Starmer can't sell off UK gold at a catastrophic loss to prop up his putative government.

[@nickedwards212]

If people don't trust them, how come they re voting for them? That geezer in the middle could have

[@peterashcroft8058]

There will only be one of two outcomes. Is Labour worth the risk. Do they deserve the HUGE majority the polls suggest they will get. For me the answer is no so I will vote Tory to mitigate

[@acacia_w]

I wholeheartedly agree with what Glinner says here.

[@c.c.8841]

d-ream have consistently asked labour to stop using their song.

[@xmfclick]

Pity about the royalties, though 😁

[@Ralstro]

Don't worry, in five years time they'll be using "Oops we did it again" and it will be Britney Spears's problem

[@Zenhumanist]

They haven't asked at all.

[@c.c.8841]

@@Zenhumanist yes they did, in tony blairs campaign Labour used the song without permission and D-ream and their label asked the song not to be used. Labour have still not asked permission for the licensed music to be used.

[@markkavanagh7377]

These guys even make Glinner look small!

[@amazer747]

How does it come to a situation whereby most folk will be voting for a Government they don't really want?

[@HollyLyne]

I know this is very much a niche subject, but Labour have long been opposed to home education and in favour of state intervention in the private lives of law-abiding families. They will NEVER get my vote on that basis alone.

[@critical_thinker73]

Lol. Imagine supporting the Tories right now.😅😅😅😅. Cheers Spiked. Enjoyed the laugh.

[@mikedempsey1496]

Why did he not use the over expensive media suite in no 10?

[@RPaton]

I'm resigning in the rain......

[@TheRealMackyt]

"As a wave of things, it's been very demoralising" (25:03) This is so true, and applies to so many of the cultural 'front lines' right now. It's just the go-to MO now.

[@Coomberg]

You are all failing to acknowledge the elephant in the room - OUR SYSTEM OF DEMOCRACY IS IRREVOCABLY BROKEN - we need complete reform of all government - hopefully a single party system guided the peoples vote on all issues.

[@tadhgcronin175]

Starmer will be a war time Prime Minister.

[@jayjee735]

2 state solution will never happen. One state with equal citizenship for all who have direct familial connections to that land, is the only realistic solution imo, obviously a truth and reconciliation comission equivalent needs to happen early on too.

[@xjamiec]

Zero seats

[@ribbonsofnight]

Tories want zero seats, Labor want zero seats, SNP want negative seats, Greens want zero seats.

[@nickedwards212]

If people didn't trust them how come they are voting for them? And that geezer in the middle could have smarted himself up before going on camera.

[@ArjunGhag-ix7te]

WTF - Frasers wearing the scarlet red of Labour - has he turned?

[@TheSeoras]

Find an independent or if you need a party try reform

[@misterrbojangles]

So Starmer decided not to prosecute JS when he was the Head of the DPP. He now thinks that he will be the next PM!

[@MrMcSwiftface]

So you believe everything Boris says and think you can post on KZbin. Oh actually, that tracks

[@SuperBlinding]

Mi5 = = Would be my suggestion.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

That's his promotion for covering it all up. How did a Labour stooge manage to make it to head of the CPS in the first place 😮

[@mattbuckland5848]

I like Graeme and he is doing so much on this issue, but for a lot of us he is a Johnny come lately. There is no time for reprimand though, only welcome. Whilst I agree that women are most affected by this issue I am sadded that men and more importantly boys are being forgotten in the discourse.

[@etherspin]

He may well be but for the last 4+ years he has been fighting hard. I agree that it's unfortunate to only look through the lens of negative effects on women but the platforming of discussions on the issue in general will get us there

[@jaaguitar]

The extra few % tax working people will pay under Labour will be the difference between being able to help your children out or not. So the parties are NOT the same.

[@harambae7014]

The result of this election is a foregone conclusion, and we all know it's going to be mediocre at best, most likely worse. What really matters is what happens 4 years from now Labour are on the back foot, the Tories are scrambling to rebuild themselves and win their supporters back, and most importantly, for the first time in my living memory, there will (hopefully) be a right wing alternative party with a genuine chance of beating the Tories.

[@Joanne217]

Graeme, 100 correct percent on Women and girls, Always, but your geopolitical take on the likes of Gaza and Iran just seem very naive😑

[@owestyo]

😂😂😂😂 who are you trying to convince?

[@daffidkane8350]

The Conservatives have been incompetent, from Cameron to Sunak. But Starmer scares me!

[@denisesumpter7750]

Pages being glued?? 😳 by whom?

[@dobs862]

Will stamer raise NI again after the Sunack cut it .?

[@SirRodericSpode]

That 2 minute Munk advert at the intro was ridiclous, stopped me watching any further.

[@jonathanwilson8951]

Stop playing Red Vs Blue. It is a lie.

[@sisiphas]

Has Starmer got a ‘trans’ child?

[@Handlingsrom]

I managed 4 minutes of this

[@stonkez8452]

Hi, I'm wondering if the people responsible for this video would be so kind as to provide a citation : 4:00 subsequent twenty-two seconds

[@randomperson8405]

Go read the Labour Manifesto.

[@davidwestwater2219]

Why are british leader so lacking in being assertive and so apologetic? It goes beyong politeness

[@tenniskinsella7768]

I said that as well

[@Fran-sf6vh]

I'm not particularly a fan of labour, but the tories are a shit show, and there's no one else.

[@LS-xs7sg]

The only possible silver lining I can see is that the destruction of the tories might leave room for a more radical right wing movement to take power. But unless we can mainstream racial and national consciousness amongst the native population the tories or similar will just return with extreme free market politics draped in the rhetoric of populism.

[@AdamJones381]

I didn't think Sunak being rained on was a big deal, I think it would looked worse if someone held an umbrella over him. It reminds of McClaren against Croatia for qualifying for Euro 2008. Wally with the brolly.

[@someguy7564]

I also didn't think it was a big deal. The music in the background was though as it spoke to how ineffective the government has been. The clown should have.been dealt with before Sunaks speech started

[@billgates-qi9st]

The way forward is for no one to vote. No one at all.

[@johnryan4454]

Subscribed because of the JK Rowling piece which i agreed with. Unsubscribed because i dont believe JKR would agree with your actual political agenda. i certainly dont.

[@turbolevo8703]

I sure you’ll be greatly missed. 😂

[@curiositycloset2359]

Linehan was all for all of this until he said one wrong thing. Let's remember that.

[@Drankovich]

Got any source on that? I get an uneasy feeling about this guy's sudden blind dogged pursuit of 'women everything'

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@Drankovich he was an aching heart liberal on every and all subjects. Typical Champaign socialist who gladly threw anybody under the bus if they disagreed with any of the managerial whims. At some point he didn't get the memo about the new cause celeb, and was in turn thrown under the bus by his friends. Source, I was alive then and remember.

[@michaelbloomer451]

For all of what?

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@michaelbloomer451 cancelling people for views that weren't pc.

[@rozzgrey801]

Yeah, but he apologised and turned it around. We forgive, unlike the left, that is their fatal weakness.

[@Kralex]

Seeing Graham next to other people is always hilarious. He doesn't even look like the same species.

[@etherspin]

Ah I saw your other comments and thought they were good faith genuine opinions but clearly they are seething - that's unfortunate.

[@christopherflux6254]

I actually think things will in general get better under Labour, but only incrementally. A few areas will get worse perhaps, but public services and the economy will get better, even if just marginally.

[@drwhatson]

Yeah right. Taking in "Palestinian refugees" will do wonders for social cohesion.

[@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757]

Vote LABOUR! OR TACTICALLY ,IGNORE THESE MUPPETS

[@tenniskinsella7768]

They are worse thsn the toried WOKE WOKE WOKE

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

Go Gra Gra. Hoped you liked Australia mate

[@etherspin]

Yep! 👍🏻

[@kenfawcett4565]

Oh give it a rest 14 years of total failure, how can it get worse , you keep defending the indefensible, shame on you.

[@ianinkster2261]

"how can it get worse" Constitutional reform, making Britain all the more completely in New Labour's image. ID cards Oodles and oodles of race legislation Etc etc etc.

[@seamuspadraigsanders431]

​@@ianinkster2261 Forced conscription. Cultural Marxism. Positive discrimination. Unsustainable economics. Catastrophic tides of private school children joining state schools. Higher taxes. Pay per mile. Ulez nationwide. Anti semitism. Rich flight. Bankruptcy and complete failure of every single council. Trillions spent on Net Zero. Blackouts. Failure of the water systems. Complete infrastructure break down.