Why This BIZARRE Race Car was GENIUS

[@jmd1743]

I respect them for being bold by trying something different.

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

To be fair everything was different with lmps back them...

[@KarsonNow]

Can it be that the design was too good to fight with most racing series? Most genius was thinking out of the box...here literally.

[@d.e.b.b5788]

@@KarsonNow It kind of reminds me of when Granatelli brought the turbine cars to Indianapolis, and they just created rules to keep them from being competitive.... then Formula 1 did the same thing, outlawing 4WD when the lotus 56 basically just took over the races when it rained.

[@RichardBenoit-q4z]

two down force wings in front would have helped.

[@RichardBenoit-q4z]

@@KarsonNow No, the exact opposite. Because of the front of it, it wasn't as safe at the same top speed as the other cars and was harder to control because it wasn't able to turn as well. It may be unbeatable in a straight line Drag race, but any turning would hinder it.

[@gavalant366]

It's always fun to see when motorsport engineers basically say "Y'know what, let's build this car because why not and just see what happens"

[@erojerisiz1571]

bad piggies but for professional grown ups

[@Mr.Marbles]

those kinds of cars always make the most entertaining races imo. i mean that was the whole vibe of group b rally and it was awesome :D

[@Frostfly]

The legal issues on this thing are nuts as well. He glossed over it at the end, but it was a BIG thing

[@Cheeky_Goose]

I feel like legal mumbo jumbo always ruins innovation. If those engineers worked on it, IMO they should be allowed to take that info with them back to Nissan because this project was too cool to go down like that

[@dimetime35c]

​@@Cheeky_Goose agreed! Either they need to make an experimental class, Or allow more innovation.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@Cheeky_Goose I agree. The correct way to combat "stealing IP" this way is to have long enough non-competitive clause in the contract. However, that gets really expensive really fast and its the reason it is not used more often and instead companies go to court to try to handle these cases.

[@G_de_Coligny]

Legal issues are good for public road going cars. For racetrack non road legal car… how about GFY…

[@KarsonNow]

Can it be that the design was too good to fight with most racing series?

[@samuelzackrisson8865]

It was heartbreaking seeing it crash at le mans

[@banovsky]

Also sad that DeltaWing didn’t follow through with the road version, and that the similar Nissan BladeGlider concept EV wasn’t made beyond one prototype-that’s the kind of EV we need…

[@saxplayingcompnerd]

IT CRASHED EVERY RACE!!!It was garbage. It got blown off the track by everything. The front wheels were too small for any grip.

[@Gl-my8fw]

​@@banovsky we don't need any evs honestly.

[@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo]

​​@@banovsky Yeah, can't wait to hear the person next to me taking while having 22 other of these go slowly around the track 😂.

[@RandomiusBronius]

@@Gl-my8fw True, we need Thorium engines. That stuff can last for centuries and is even cleaner than evs.

[@jarod6714]

Watching this I thought the big fatal flaw with the delta wing was going to be something mechanical, but it ended up being corporate sabotage. I can't help but feel racing would be totally different today if the powers that be didn't keep on massacring every new idea that threatened to even slightly get in the way of profits.

[@kooooons]

I remember seeing it on KZbin on chris harris on cars. My favourite thing from that video was that the front end was so light, they had to use bicycle shocks for the front suspension. One person could easily lift the front end.

[@rolux4853]

I also saw that video and I’m a Mountainbiker so I was absolutely amazed seeing the same shocks I use on my mtb in that amazing car!

[@arthor675somthing]

Wow, at first I thought you missed typed that and meant motorbike shocks, but bicycle shocks that's impressive and light themselves

[@Paganizondaf650]

@@rolux4853 with how marketing heavy the bike industry is, I’m surprised I never heard Fox or so say their dampers where used in lemans

[@meh6897]

@@arthor675somthing hahah fox shocks are as legit as it gets. People will break before a crown with fox 40’s will.

[@CommentFrom]

Chris Harris is one of the most pompous assholes in the world

[@psychlops924]

I still remember the Delta Wing leading the 2016 Daytona 24 Hours in the middle of the night. There was an LMPC car that spun in turn 1 and the Delta Wing hit it. They really were on track to win the race at that point, I'm still sad it didn't happen.

[@sanurawat1651]

It was their first race & they still did pretty good...

[@nicstroud]

0:56 While Concorde's wing is technically a delta wing, it is not a triangular. Concorde has an _ogival_ wing, a modification of the optimum delta for better efficiency at low speeds, specifically take-off and landing. Pedantry aside, interesting video.

[@IheartMount]

I was hoping to hear a bit more about one of the most intersting aspects of the Delta Wing, the vortex sealing of the undertray! Inspired by the BLAT technology on the Eagle Indy cars of the early 80's, this is one of the key developments of the aero package on Delta Wing. The delta shape of the undertray has little to do with jet aircraft, as jet fighters and Concorde use delta wings for entirely different reasons. The delta shape wing is less prone to wave drag in supersonic flight regimes than other wing planforms, while also maintaining lift at low speeds with high angle of attack due to the large vortices generated over the wing, but these conditions are not applicable to the Delta Wing vehicle here. The vortice generators along the leading edge of the undertray help to "seal" the undertray, much like a low sliding skirt, improving the downforce generation of the undertray, and creating a lower drag to downforce ratio. Otherwise great video, such an interesting vehicle from an engineering perspective.

[@piuthemagicman]

Modern F1 cars do this too, look it up.

[@IheartMount]

@@piuthemagicman Oh no doubt. F1 aerodynamics is heavily rooted in vortice generation, for a wide range of reasons, including sealing undertrays and wing endplates, as well as general air flow management. But for the Delta Wing, it is such a crucial element to the aerodynmaic package, given the entirety of its downforce is generated from the undertray, and the vortice sealing is perhaps the single most prominent aerodynamic feature on the vehicle, so I thought it would warrant at least some kind of mention in a video dedicated to it. But yeah, there are many uses for vortices on a race car.

[@chrisjohnson3253]

Ye ground effect nothing new then

[@lukemathews8942]

That flip they showed well that under tray was removed and brought back from petit. I sold it wish I would kept it.

[@alanhat5252]

@@chrisjohnson3253 the "ground effect" in the '78-'81 "ground effect era" was achieved with physical skirts, they were banned because they were getting damaged which caused problems.

[@AdamWithem]

I will watch any Delta Wing content. It was by far my wife's favorite car to watch. We were lucky enough to catch it a few times. Always been a fan and I really hope it comes back

[@RuToClose]

I was at Petit the year it first raced. Lot's of footage here from that race. Very nostalgic. It was a very cool car. If I see delta wing I also click.

[@kabel9357]

"genius" is a pretty strong assessment. I spoke to a few of the drivers of the imsa delta wing back in the day and they really struggled with it.

[@joequinn9743]

Its interesting that Don Garlits (Top Fuel dragster legend) had a similar steering problem when he was developing the first successful rear engine Top Fuel dragster. His final solution was to mechanically slow the steering down.

[@RobCabreraCh]

Lucas Ordoñez and the Delta Wing were main characters of my racing dreams when I was a teenager. A Gran Turismo gamer who was so good on the playstation that they gave him a seat on the 24Hr of LeMans? I always dreamt of being like him and suddenly getting a call from Kaz to come join Nissan and the GT Academy and race with him on the 24Hr of Nurburgring.

[@Wagonman5900]

The Deltawing should have been great. By the end of the 2015 season if I remember right, the Deltawing was faster then anything else on the straights, and starting to be a threat in championship fights. The next year at the Rolex 24, the Deltawing drove to the front of the field and held the lead overall on pace alone. Unfortunately, they crashed into a stalled prototype challenge car in turn one. That was the last of the Deltawing.

[@Zincamariano-oy9lt]

NISSAN Delta wing was sabotaged. Beautiful prototypes It would be very interesting to see LM cars in different forms and shapes eagerly for delivery of a chalanging performance

[@paulfitz-gibbon6091]

I was working at Dan Gurneys All American Racers when I saw them turn a 10' block of styrofoam into the prototype for this overnight on their gnarly CNC machine. Then over the course of a few weeks, it turned into a complete tub and rolling chassis. Very fitting Dan and his son Justin's crew were allowed to develop this car - I have so many fond memories of that hallowed ground. Long Live AAR!!

[@pnblondon1087]

Glad to see mention of the Gurneys and AAR - they should've been mentioned in the video!

[@augustortiz]

Id love to see this exact same type of episode on the FWD GTR LMP that Nismo tried.

[@procatprocat9647]

Fwd is dull wheel drive. It was never going to excite real drivers.

[@jackarmstrong7285]

@@procatprocat9647 It was meant to be AWD but Nissan rushed the development. Combustion power to the front and an electric flywheel type device powering the rear wheels

[@augustortiz]

@@procatprocat9647 there are plenty of awesome FWD enthusiast cars. Stop being so narrow minded.

[@Modi_]

​@@procatprocat9647 real drivers get excited by all types of drivetrains. i'm 100% sure a track spec civic will smoke anything you drive.

[@procatprocat9647]

@@Modi_ you're confusing lap time with driver enjoyment. It's a common mistake. Even a low powered lightweight rwd sports car is immeasurably more involved and satisfying to drive than a one dimensional fwd motorised shopping trolley irrespective of power output.

[@Klutch58Customs]

I had a go with the le mans spec on the simulator. I feel validated as a race driver now because my conclusion was the same! 😂 As soon as the rear tyre hits the curb the whole thing suddenly oversteers and is a sod to correct. It's like steering sensitivity is set to 200%.

[@piuthemagicman]

open diff doesn't help. I'd say that's caused roughly 50% by diff & 50% by steering.

[@K31TH3R]

@@piuthemagicman 100%. You can also reign in the instability over curbs with trail braking. I also played around with adding an LSD to the car in Assetto Corsa, and you could make it behave a lot better (to a point) with changes in differential preload. But where you gain stability over uneven surfaces with the LSD, you end up sacrificing too much maneuverability in both low speed and high speed corners. Sometimes the car feels absolutely fantastic on flat road courses without many elevation changes, and it's an absolute hoot to drive. But on more varied surfaces, to make it actually viable it feels like it needs a whole suite of electronics, with active aero, and brake/torque vectoring to get it to keep up with more "standard" machines with a similar power to weight ratio, and if you need all that just to get it to keep up I think that says everything you need to know about the concept. I still think it's absolutely cool as hell though.

[@demon1954]

How much time would you lose or gain by avoiding the curbs?

[@K31TH3R]

@@demon1954 Anything you do to improve it's consistency and predictability around the corners usually ends up hurting your lap more than it helps, since you pretty much need to be driving the thing at 100% of it's potential and using every bit of the track due to it's lack of corner exit speed versus other machines in it's class, else you just lose too much time. That is a big part of what makes it really fun to drive in a sim, since you need to absolutely send it and go full YOLO all the time to stay competitive. But if behaves in sims the way it does in real life (which it does seem to do) I can't imagine it's characteristics are particularly desirable for the people tasked to actually drive the thing among other cars on the track.

[@msytdc1577]

​@@K31TH3R sounds like how modern jet fighters had better performance by being unstable (read easier to manoeuvre as they weren't fighting inherent stability), but weren't practical until fly-by-wire and computers were able to micro adjust the control surfaces multiple times per second. Sounds like the same thing would enable greater control and performance by not having the car upset so much in the first place and this not requiring a lot of heavy handed correctional forces to regain control.

[@sanderheijselaar5687]

Still remember it at Le Mans. It was great to see it racing and really sad how it's race ended

[@O530CarrisPT_C2]

Maybe this car could work if two things could've been added or resolved: - Added a halo (like in F1) or an aeroscreen (like in IndyCars) to protect the driver in an event of a crash - The torque vectoring issue gets fixed by redistributing the weight.

[@groundedgaming]

First second and I see a big black oddly shaped thing...😂

[@tomcoon9038]

I love the fact of REALLY really thinking outside the box. Whether it dominated or not, SOME things were learned from this experiment. I'm sure we'll never know but this is the definition of innovation. Somewhere somebody used info off this experiment.

[@Alex-mn4wz]

Delta wings are good for supersonic flights, it does not reduce the drag at subsonic speeds (if it was the case, all airliners would have delta wings)

[@vinaSOAD]

this is the best car channel on KZbin

[@groundedgaming]

0:06 that helmet was realy close to the ground😬

[@QwoaX]

Which is not that much different from formula cars pre halo. Especially F1 onboards from 2017 look scary nowadays.

[@frednerk5959]

Designed by Ben Bowlby. Used to work with him. Not designed by Nissan!

[@johnpoile1451]

Dyslexic isn't he? See also TV programme, The nuts and bolts of Ben Bowlby.

[@hallucinato2307]

Cars move on 2d surfaces. Planes move in 3d. The delta wing makes more sense in the air

[@PoRRasturvaT]

I remember one thing commenter said during Petit Le Mans: "it's funny to see GT cars putting themselves right behind the deltawing for slipstream, as if they would get any..."

[@numbfinger7137]

I remember back then the first time i watch 24 hours of Le Mans live on TV i saw those unique cars, i love the car because it's different than any other cars on the track.

[@IrocZIV]

I would be curious of how it braked. All the weight shifting to those narrow wheels mounted so close together had to feel weird.

[@ThrowingItAway]

Most of the braking was done by the rear tires for stability like a parachute. This allows the front tires to still steer in the corner entry because they aren't being used to brake.

[@CarlosLins1]

At least in games, it is a very understeary car, maybe because of the small surface area in the front

[@budokpantai]

@@CarlosLins1 I believe people have this misconception about it's handling because they are lacking on a vital information about the car, including this channel. What most people don't know is that the car handling was actually heavily influenced by a very tricky rear suspension setup. I don't really know how to tell this in technical terms, but basically the car rear suspension setup help the car to rotate better mid corner as the weight of the car shifting from side to side. Chris Harris did a review video about this car years ago, and had the designer himself explained about this.

[@senseofthecommonman]

Many years ago I read an article by a tyre engineer. He said the contact patch of a tyre was determined by 2 things. Tyre pressure and force pushing down on it, ie weight plus any downforce. So a wide tyre has no more rubber in contact with the road than a narrow tyre, the only difference between the 2 being the shape of the contact patch. Wide and narrow vs narrow and long. This would seem to also explain the front grip on this car as well as the reasons given. Has always made sense to me but it is rarely mentioned and driver 61 made no reference to it either, any knowledgeable people out there have any more info?

[@johnosborne4368]

Danny Panoz is a good guy. One of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Just saw him not too long ago. The Panoz story is a cool one!

[@robm3534]

Used to be the machinist at Panoz. One of the best jobs I ever had.

[@mikejohnson5900]

A great subject Scott! I saw this car at Laguna Seca. Also was really pissed that Nakajima couldn't take the time to make sure he cleared the Deltawing as I had been following its development and was hoping it would do well at LeMans. Too bad. It was an interesting car at any rate.

[@teddrewflack400]

The main reason this car was genius is because it looks like a robot . Anything that looks like it could transform into a robot at any second is cool . Robots , are cool .

[@real.p.1]

A big disadvantage was its low weight, which made it really bounce off in case of contact with a "normal" heavier race car. Which is clearly visible in its Le Mans collision with the Porsche.

[@yiorgos272]

I saw it a few yeas ago while testing at Top Gear Test Track @ Dunsfold Park, and the way the nose would dive in at Gambon was really uncanny as was the overall speed with so little power. Also, mentioning delta winds on aircraft like Concorde & Eurofighter in relation to this is is wrong, at least in engineering terms, probably less in marketing/publicity ones. The reasons they work on aircraft is totally irrelevant in cars as I can't imagine any car pitching down 20-30° while cornering 😆

[@lindseymckirdy1830]

I was there at Le Mans that year everyone loved it It’s shame it never finished the race , the design was breathtaking up close

[@yt.personal.identification]

With electric power to the front wheels, for the curbs, and modern vectoring, this would now work very nicely.

[@KingofClubsMCDLXXXVIII]

adding that bar to the sponsor segment made me watch the entire thing, good job

[@marios449]

A very interesting car indeed! A small note though about the lateral load transfer across the front tyres: it actually !increases! due to the small front track width not the opposite as stated at the video. The formula is: lateral load transfer=(weight on the front axle*lateral acceleration*height of the center of mass)/(track width) Hence a small track width leads to increased load transfer. A large track width can offer "free grip" as you can work both tyres closer to their limits. The stiffness of the front and rear axles is an independent parameter and can be set however you want it. Needless to say this is a very interesting example of vehicle dynamics and car setup!

[@dethak]

Interesting car and I really don't know how it was any good. Disappointing video though, given the error you mentioned, as well as suggesting the shape was used for the same reasons as on aeroplanes designed for operation in supersonic flow regimes, where air behaves completely differently to subsonic flow. I still have no idea how it was any good.

[@marios449]

@@dethak yes it was a bit funny hearing about a delta wing race car, given that it travels through subsonic, let alone practically incompressible flows 😂 I would argue its a draggy design, given all the vortices created, their lift/drag ratio shouldn't be impressive really. It was probably a compromise to materialise this unique design, rather than a feature!

[@eekee6034]

The more I think about this formula, the less it makes sense. It makes perfect sense if front and rear track width are the same, and I think it might make sense if the front wheels are on a rigid axle, but neither of these things is true for the Delta Wing. It has a very wide rear track and stiff body, so I suggest the rear track be plugged into the formula. I think it would also make sense to multiply the result by the ratio of front/rear track widths.

[@sdx3918]

Just looking at this car made me miss open roofed LMPs even though closed roofs are safer and made more sense aerodynamically.

[@megimargareth4015]

sadly, its makes driver fatigue higher since welp youre exposed to outside element

[@SciFiSecrets]

Ironic how they made it put on rearview mirrors, then got smashed into by another car that didn't see it in its rearview mirrors.

[@sebastianlara8483]

Another car with a great concept idea but stopped by money and limited development is the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo, built by Ben Bowlby too. Can you make a video about the story of this car?

[@jeremythurman5261]

Chip Ganassi Racing has the original Delta Wing (the Indycar proposal) on display at the race shop in Indianapolis. Right next to some legendary winners.

[@caywo_]

-"Mom can I buy a Koegnisegg?" +"We already have a Koegnisegg at home" Koenigsegg at home: 4:05

[@garneauweld1100]

I loved that car! Something different, something bold and it looked quite well on track at speed. I never did figure out how it did not roll over. A brave endeavor that mostly succeeded.

[@litsmoderngaming]

*"genius ... failed epically" that says everything*

[@terryfleming7084]

I remember that car at Road Atlanta. I was able to get up close to it and it looked so weird, but so clean. I glad to see your take on the car.

[@kahlaaja]

Thanks for the full background story! I really liked deltawing when it came all the years ago, but never heard anywhere what really killed the project, which I was sad about..

[@spaceminions]

If I was building that car, the torque vectoring would be 100% necessary in order to get proper cornering performance - I'd be driving the rear wheels to enforce the requested angle of turn. But yeah, very possibly too hard to keep the weight from coming off of the inside wheel badly enough to make the control system a nightmare to get working.

[@RazingthenRaising]

Lucas was the first winner of GT Academy, which is what the Gran Turismo movie that will be coming out this fall is about. The Delta Wing is an AMAZING idea! The only reason it never won is because it was hated by those who didn't understand its engineering. It was in the lead at the Daytona 24 hour, and would have won, but someone parked in turn one specifically to take it out. Pitiful. But it is still a viable concept, and should be tried again!

[@konekillerking]

The car was not inspired by the Concord. The Delta concept goes back a lot longer then that. German aero research if I recall.

[@lukemathews8942]

R.I.P Don Panoz. Legend. Been to every petit Lemans and met the genius multiple times was a great guy

[@bmc3663]

A few points of note. The car was actually pretty competitive in the ALMS and running at the front in the Daytona 24hrs for a time. It certainly had reliability problems early on. Also the engine in the Panoz Deltawing cars wasn’t exactly a Mazda with Elan Power designing and building the engines themselves around a billet block of their own design. The cylinder head was a Mazda casting though. The Elan engine made more power and torque and the gearbox suffered as a result. A switch to a new custom made EMCO unit eventually solved that issue. Aero wise the car was developed extensively in that period with a modified underbody, revised front end with a splitter and small wings at the back. The rear suspension design was also very different from the ‘Nissan’ car with a more conventional set up at the rear.

[@rico_cavalierie]

Only the FIA would come up with a race rule saying you can't beat a certain lap time.

[@wiegraf9009]

FIA doesn't come up with the rules for Le Mans AFAIK

[@sarahlivingstone8367]

300bhp 4 cyl engine from the Nissan Juke. Hmm, the Juke is looking a bit more appealing now!!

[@Anonnymouse53]

I was there watching the poor bastard trying to get it running shortly after the crash. Such a shame & Nissan were EVERYWHERE that year and this project had a ton of draw, a big pop with the fans. Universally everyone was really interested in it and wanted to see it run well.

[@donaldvincent]

I love it. The confidence to try something original deserves much respect. Thanks for posting this video.

[@rtz549]

The front tire and rear suspension is brilliant. I had to draw the rear suspension on paper to get my mind wrapped around it.

[@rhaimon2100]

I wish this thing worked well, I love seeing out of the box vehicles. Innovative vehicles that are such a change from the literal box are always interesting.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Delta wings are used in supersonic planes because it's needed to combat some issues with supersonic airflow. Having delta wing shape for anything that goes slower than the speed of sound is more like a marketing trick instead of required for aerodynamics.

[@andyamos8594]

First thing we learnt in car design is a front tricycle style configeration is a no-no....eg. Robin Reliant, very front unstable for manouvering. Turn it the other way round and bob's your uncle, you have a vehicle that sticks to the road like glue. Its also more aerodynamic as pointed out in commnets. Seems to me they should have designed this car the other way round?!! The guys at Morgan are probably tut-tutting.

[@TheAlphaDingo]

They need to bring back a Prototype or Experimental class. Innovation should be encouraged, not stifled.

[@wiegraf9009]

Um they did? The new generation NASCAR at Le Mans this year drove under the same category

[@TheAlphaDingo]

@@wiegraf9009 that was a garage 56 entry which isn't the same as a field of prototype cars racing against each other

[@wiegraf9009]

@@TheAlphaDingo I meant the delta wing car

[@AKracecars]

My favorite Racecar ever built. A true display of a deep understanding of vehicle dynamics

[@greybuckleton]

So fun fact. A Delta wing makes more drag for a given amount of lift than a straight wind. That's why airliners don't use them. Concord is actually a Ogival wing btw. That's really cool that the driver tried to fix the car enough to get to the pitts. A shame it didn't work.

[@ChrisNett42]

Thank you for showing us Jeremy Clarkson roll a Reliant Robin!!! 🤣 One of my favorite episodes of Top Gear!!!

[@MindCrime550]

I feel like the combination of torque vectoring and traction control have improved a lot since this car was built, i feel like this concept could go a lot further with further sensor/software developement. It's akin to a quad-copter drone with the wrong accelerometers.

[@wiegraf9009]

Sounds like something that should be tested with RC cars

[@Wzrd8]

Intersting car. Saw it at Long Beach 8-9 years back. Thought it would lose hard but it did okay. The high speed advantage it held was sort of enough even on a city track, wasn't going to win but not get embarrased either. That is until it just caught fire for no reason.

[@alexislebienheureux1459]

A delta wing is perfect... For flying! Putting so many efforts, money, talent based on a stupid idea is just mind-blowing! And of course it's slower in corners... This is incredible...

[@procatprocat9647]

Too many car people don't have a clue about fundamental Physics and Engineering concepts and approaches. They only understand the status quo. This is one example that exposes those sorts...

[@tgiencke]

The delta wing is for supersonic flight (Mach 1+) due to incompressibility of air at these speeds.

[@DaFinkingOrk]

It does work at any speed though, just it needs a high angle of attack at low speeds which makes a lot of drag. I mean, paper aeroplanes are delta wings and fly.

[@tgiencke]

@@DaFinkingOrk I am 10yr Air Force & 10yr Corporate jets & a pilot. Delta wings don’t work at slow speeds or high angle of attack. That is why aircraft of that era landed at high speeds and had drag parachutes to slow down.

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

I cant imagine a any more appropriately goofy vehicle of the era than the juke to power this thing

[@SelectCircle]

Loved the editing! This vid went by fast - no drag!

[@Thri11seeker]

Physics of it makes sense because torque vectoring would almost need to do the extreme of other cars where it reduces power on the inside much further then a traditional car because the weight would balance much more even across front wheels but weight balance of back would be much worse causing the back wheels to pick up much easier causing the inside wheels to pick up much higher and curbs would just kick the back end around it would work but also has its problems

[@ponchopalito3953]

Im not gonna surprise if we all saw that mobile on one of those batman movie in the future 😆😂🤣💯👍

[@glennguillen7069]

It's like the bat mobile.

[@KartiacKID]

Love to see a second go of this car with the torque vectoring issue fixed

[@nameless5413]

what Deltawing and nissan should've done was settle their differences by running their own competition maybe? 3 races on 3 continents with tracks like Maccau, Dijon, Albert Park (CAN). it'd serve everyone well AND advertise their vehicles to potential customers aswell as further developing the idea. just weld it unto some FIA serieses get 3 dozen drivers and it'd be fun (since they are narrower they could start in 3-4-3 or maybe just 3 per row)

[@JoeOvercoat]

There’s a lot of wonderful theory here but it’s also perfectly obvious that the thing is inclined to do exactly what it did at Lemans. Having snappy steering in a tricycle arrangement is not a good thing, just ask the aviation industry about it. I’m really surprised that was not obvious to the channel provider here. But then I’m a lifelong ‘roadie’ bicyclist and I know about skinny tires and snappy steering.

[@garretthoward2226]

Saw one of these run at Watkins Glen. Thing was insane!

[@aaronklein1490]

What sad to me is hearing the project end not because drivers and professionals on the scene didn't like it or I'd didn't preform. No just some guys with a bunch of money didn't agree about it seperated, and then decided to end it altogether.

[@chonkusdonkus]

I would have loved to see more cars like this, maybe even electrical, a lot more innovation to be done in the field!

[@Jshortca]

This car had so many haters when released. Neat to see it again actually.

[@audioengineer86]

This was a super interesting video, I loved the breakdown. Another car I always wondered about was that about that Tyrrell P34 F1 car from the 70's.

[@theINQBS]

All this and you never once mentioned Dan Gurney?!?!?? 🤦🏻‍♂️ Dan Gurney is the person who gave this project life and to not mention him is a travesty. There’s a whole lot more to this and to say this car was unsuccessful is wrong. It did exceedingly well but was dealt too many obstacles to overcome.

[@T.R.R.Jolkien]

Don Garlitz was laughed at when he showed up in his dragster with the engine mounted behind him. He won that weekend. The next weekend, three more cars arrived with their engines mounted behind them. The next weekend, ten cars had their engines mounted behind them. Don’t be afraid to think outside the box.

[@marcofurlani5161]

The Delta wing was developed in aeronautic as a compromise to allow for good subsonic performance in planes meant to reach supersonic speeds. I find it difficult to explain the design choice adopted on that car referencing mainly the correlation with the aeronautical wing shape

[@wiegraf9009]

Nothing in common really yeah

[@jiminycricket9877]

I used to have good natured arguments with a friend of mine about the benefits of a reverse trike and the potential. He thought it just wouldn’t work. With the (relative) success of the delta wing I was able to win that one with a knowing nod and a wink. I’d still like to build one. Unfortunately it’s at the back of a long list of possible projects and I’m not getting any younger!!!!

[@wiegraf9009]

It's not a trike though it has 4 wheels.

[@jiminycricket9877]

@@wiegraf9009 it’s a four wheeled trike, if you can imagine such a thing. The front wheels are so close together it’s functionally the same as having just one. Three wheelers aren’t classed as “cars” so this was a way to get the benefits of a reverse trike but still have four wheels - be a racing car.

[@holeshothunter5544]

Delta wings are good at flying. Tricycle wheel mounting points are easy to flip over. Whatcha get? This.

[@dellrobot]

Love the content, keep it going

[@ianthomas7819]

Was the 6 wheel Tyrrell any good? Image result for tyrrell 6 wheeler model The car seemed to be particularly good down the straights and through long corners, like at Anderstorp, Watkins Glen, Mosport Park, Fuji and the Österreichring, but it struggled on bumpy circuits like Brands Hatch, Jarama and the Nürburgring, where the grip was actually variable, because, depending upon the contours or ..

[@maddoxmartin5698]

3:42 My guy was like, “I have a good idea. Let’s make a Top Fuel Dragster and make it turn!” “Oh and let’s use the engine from one of the worst looking cars, the Juke”

[@ryanburnham1932]

I think we need a new international series of motorsport focused on this style of car. Who wouldn't love to see 20-30 of these cars running around the circuit? With the push for motorsport to be greener, and the possibility to introduce hybrid technology into this style of car, it seems like great racing at speeds rivalling the panicle of current motorsport with much less emissions.

[@santadam]

Fascinating design and a great breakdown of the story! Much thanks.

[@rotorblade9508]

looks like it could be made to work with some little changes like a sriking colour, a good working rear diff and electronics, higher vertical stabiliser (for increased visibility), a halo and later maybe some suspension research.

[@tombrewsaugh1399]

This car was originally designed for Indy Car racing but rejected. It was not meant as a road race car. I once spoke with a person whose company was first involved with the project and he told me they were glade to get out of it. I also heard some drivers did not like the way it handled.

[@mkoronowski]

Delta wings were developed for supersonic flight. A thin lead-edge delta wing has nothing of value here other than a nice CFD solution. These cars boroughs more from a bullet than a jet. Small frontal area.

[@alexsp4853]

Thanos hearing this talk about aerodynamics, tires, downforce and weightdistribution: "Perfectly balanced, as all things should be"

[@skalra63]

The irony have being told you have to have wing mirrors only for another car to punt you off because they didn't see you in theirs