Why this could be the best new van on sale // Jonny Smith

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@thefrenchruraldream8069
@thefrenchruraldream8069 4 жыл бұрын
Yet again Jonny has got the jump on all the other car review channels. Guarantee you’ll see this on a KZbin channel soon. Hands down best car review and unique vehicle channel on KZbin 👍🏻🙂.
@octapc
@octapc 4 жыл бұрын
What I love about CarPervert is that it gives us a lot of the nitty gritty tech info, unlike some other KZbinr who just isn't a car enthusiast like us older enthusiasts from the days of carbys.
@Mahdikohan
@Mahdikohan 4 жыл бұрын
"Lets make things to last longer again, we used too" love that sentence,
@chrisgreen8916
@chrisgreen8916 4 жыл бұрын
They need to make a camper van version of this.
@brechtthebest
@brechtthebest 4 жыл бұрын
Better yet, offer a cheap version for those that want to convert it to campervan
@randommisshaps7
@randommisshaps7 4 жыл бұрын
@@brechtthebest yes!
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын
I would be will to bet that once you start to add weight of conversion or luggage that the range drops significantly.
@unfurling3129
@unfurling3129 4 жыл бұрын
@@DiscoFang Certainly so, but also certainly expected. We need lighter batteries.
@chriswebster3649
@chriswebster3649 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that
@nadeemahmed324
@nadeemahmed324 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny.. this is a real issue.. I want an electric Van.. but look at the price. It makes no sense. The Nissan ENV 200 is only slightly more expensive than the diesel version at £20k. But all the other can makes are charging double or triple the price of a diesel... Why.. can someone like you do some investigation or even just ask them why they are so expensive.. the LDV electric Van is £60k. The diesel version is £17k. Renault master £65k and no rapid charger. Why?
@elliottslab
@elliottslab 4 жыл бұрын
Start using worlds like aluminium and bonded composite price goes up, needs to be steel to be cheap
@curtinj98
@curtinj98 4 жыл бұрын
@@elliottslab Add to that: Lots of copper. Electrical safety systems that have to cope with lethal levels of electricity. Bespoke software. Sensors. Lots and lots of sensors. Loads of microprocessors. Fibre optic cables. The warranty. Manufacturers know that they will be paying for at least one lot of new batteries. And so on
@elliottslab
@elliottslab 4 жыл бұрын
curtinj98 well using higher voltage reduces amount of copper by a lot, and using more custom stuff instead of off the shelf stuff stuck together can reduce number of pcbs and things, lots of room to get the price down here
@curtinj98
@curtinj98 4 жыл бұрын
@@elliottslab the extra copper is needed to get the HV power from the front of the car to the driven wheels. In this case to the back of the vehicle. With a conventional car/van the highest voltages rarely leave the engine bay. The copper is also used in the electric motors and charging systems. As for the other components, they will get cheaper over time. But the modern EV vehicle is still in its infancy. There are multiple standards, and none of them have gained a dominance that will allow costs to be driven down by scale. And the EV sector is still a small slice of the entire market. So each standard is a small slice of a small slice. Plus, manufacturers are desperate to be on the right side of legislation. They want something in place to show governments they are acting. They are in the "we must do something" mode. Costs will be addressed as standards standardise, and volumes increase.
@elliottslab
@elliottslab 4 жыл бұрын
curtinj98 don’t think you under stood my point 400v will need more copper than 800v not talking about 12V systems in normal cars even normal ice cars are moving to higher voltages such as 48v,
@camwinstone
@camwinstone 4 жыл бұрын
Great piece Jonny. An EV with an ICE?. This is great, the technology and it’s built in Britain. Prices from 46.5k plus VAT, £500 a month 9 months initial payment. The load it can carry is 800KG, a Trafic, Transit or Transporter is average 1200KG, the blue van with the Tevo racking must be close to that weight. Not trying to be negative just pointing out how this will be looked at.
@Wookey.
@Wookey. 4 жыл бұрын
@Spud Chuffington jones Only if you can't add up running costs, and/or don't care about fucking up the atmosphere and kid's lungs. What kind of 'idiot' would care about that shit?
@Wookey.
@Wookey. 4 жыл бұрын
@Spud Chuffington jones I buy vans - I care about both those things (total running costs and emissions). Strange to admit in public that you are a sociopath and don't care at all about kids or the planet. I mean I understand people who say 'well I'd like to but I have to buy second hand and really can't afford it yet'. But people who go 'no, I don't give fuck about choking your kids, and ruining the world'. Well that's just weird. What sort of person would say that?
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wookey. at the moment the running costs do appear to be cheaper. But that's only because there's no fuel duty, vat is only 5% and they weren't paying road tax that could have changed when road taxing got changed. The UK government aren't going to let that go forever as soon as enough people have them we will see how they will cash in. They could make people have a separate meter installed then get them to fill a form every year and Bill them, or simply, charge them about £2k a year but they will do something. When I first started driving diesel Vans in the early 90's it was less than half the cost of petrol now look at it there's an example. Also these vehicles couldn't exist without oil, then there's the impact of the mining for the materials, and some of the mines had children mining. We just have to accept no matter what we drive,and what may or may not come out of the back someone will be affected.
@adamlytle2615
@adamlytle2615 4 жыл бұрын
"Let's make things last a bit longer again" - hear hear!
@stamfordly6463
@stamfordly6463 4 жыл бұрын
Royal Mail's been doing that for years, the van for my route was a 55 diesel Corsa until it finally fell apart last winter.
@unfurling3129
@unfurling3129 4 жыл бұрын
MTLABLA
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 жыл бұрын
@@stamfordly6463 Yes, lovely diesel. Even better an older car with higher emissions.
@briansalay-smith8604
@briansalay-smith8604 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent coverage, it's time we had more commercial EVs I really hope this van is a success
@afberglund2764
@afberglund2764 4 жыл бұрын
It's here here not hear hear?
@CDN_Store
@CDN_Store 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, my dad drives a small Royal Mail van. I mentioned how Royal Mail keeps doing trials of EVs and never seems to invest in a sizeable fleet. His answer was they generally don't keep the vans very long for various cost cutting reasons. I was saying they're an ideal case use for EV vans and could really help the UK commercial EV industry. What you said about the materials and warranty being a reason for companies to buy and keep them longer will hopefully see RM show more confidence in this type of vehicle. My dad is a lil sceptical about himself owning one so such a move could prompt the workers to understand the positive reality.
@atifmanzoor63
@atifmanzoor63 2 жыл бұрын
You will have to put up se many charging stations everywhere and one hour to charge
@ChrisBWelch
@ChrisBWelch 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review as ever Johnny! It's so exciting to see these in production, and I for one cannot wait to see these on our streets!
@blownnugget
@blownnugget 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see a Campervan of it! 🥰
@FJUH
@FJUH 4 жыл бұрын
I love the range extender! You can create peak output with minimal resistance making it very efficient.
@cyclonicleo
@cyclonicleo 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Make them last, make them solid, make them well. Drift van? With that steering angle, heck yes! Johnny, awesome episode - thank you! Whilst watching this, my mind went straight to...... ......This would make an excellent base for a small campervan (camping car). I'd pick the Ultima as the base for it with one sliding door and have the option of a diesel as the ICE recharge unit, as well as both sets of charging plugs at the front. A larger, higher roofed, LWB version would be even better for this. Also, as the body panels are composite, side panels could be moulded for use for campers in-house and added on the production line with a bare interior shell, then sent to third party manufacturers for finishing, or for custom fitment by the company itself off the line (like what GM did with the GMC Motorhome in the 70's). Throw some solar panels on the roof, a small slimline air-conditioner, a side mounted awning as well as beefed up suspension and you're golden! Range extended EV campervan? Yes please!
@MichaelRoell
@MichaelRoell 4 жыл бұрын
Why does no one remember that this is how modern locomotives have worked for decades? Engine drives a generator, which then feeds the traction motors. Edit: Jonny didn’t mention it, but with that generator only setup, they’d be missing a trick if they didn’t offer an inverter to provide AC power on the job site.
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 4 жыл бұрын
I think there was an inverter on the bulkhead in the back of the blue van. The silver & blue box with the fan, next to the red bit. As to locomotives, the ex-District Line diesel-electric converted trains discussed at FCL 2019 have finally arrived in N Wales this month, to be used on the Wrexham - Bidston, and Chester - Crewe lines.
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
Because EV's are new and shinny and pushing technology forward. How could this system have existed before, next you will be saying something really crazy like the world is round 😂😂👍
@greengrubwoodentoysaustral8452
@greengrubwoodentoysaustral8452 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see the unique style and character of the black cab being applied to a van. Maybe this will start a trend with NY cabs doing the same.
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 4 жыл бұрын
I thought most NYC cabs were Toyota Prius these days?
@TheMelbournelad
@TheMelbournelad 4 жыл бұрын
Love to see these in Melbourne Australia now that ford and Holden no longer build cars in Australia(taxis here used them)
@davenz000
@davenz000 4 жыл бұрын
The way Aussie clapped out taxis are, you'd need to wait 15 years for the London taxis to be shipped over and even then it would improve the standard. Take an Uber.
@MrJhorseman
@MrJhorseman 4 жыл бұрын
I once drove the prototype van, it was a prototype cab cut lengthened and shut. Was a few years back now nice to see they are nearly done. Also glad I didn't have to work on them as much as I did the cab
@gregnicholls5267
@gregnicholls5267 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder what the range is when loaded to max weight
@gtp_vexd3507
@gtp_vexd3507 4 жыл бұрын
greg nicholls surely it’s already at max weight when two big lads get in with their morning bacon cob. It’s a 3 ton van. Empty.
@bigbadjohn10
@bigbadjohn10 4 жыл бұрын
GTP_ VEXD No the weight was GROSS, that is all up including load.
@benverdel3073
@benverdel3073 4 жыл бұрын
Fossile fuel cars don't really have a range as the "recharge" time is 10 minutes (between exit and reentry of the motorway)
@WonkoTheSaneUK
@WonkoTheSaneUK 4 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, Channel 4 screened their show about the making of the taxi version last night (Saturday, July 25th 2020 for watchers in the far future)
@AkaAndyKnuckles
@AkaAndyKnuckles 4 жыл бұрын
Chademo and CCS. That's eye opening.
@jur4x
@jur4x 4 жыл бұрын
And 11KW AC with an option of 22
@Wookey.
@Wookey. 4 жыл бұрын
Versatile is good. I guess there are places in the country where it's a very handy option.
@GrahamRead101
@GrahamRead101 4 жыл бұрын
Agree - versaile. Most rapid chargers offer both, but not all (particularly some older ecotricity one's - if they're working at all)
@NickLiang
@NickLiang 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are of such high quality! what a gem of a channel!
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@DroneShots_UK
@DroneShots_UK 4 жыл бұрын
This is a bit of a game changer. Also, that's twice you've beaten fullycharged with EV content lately. 👍
@user-jt1jv8vl9r
@user-jt1jv8vl9r 4 жыл бұрын
A full ev with 300 miles and 150-250kwh charging would be a game changer. This is merely a small step and already looks like dated tech. If only Tesla made a delivery van.
@leonkernan
@leonkernan 4 жыл бұрын
Who’s that? Oh right, that channel I haven’t seen since I unsubscribed from it
@Chobaca
@Chobaca 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know the story there. Was he fired or did he quit? Was there a fight?
@DDLovett
@DDLovett 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chobaca they are still friends. But Jonny wants to review all vehicles including petrol and diesel but Robert wants purely ev and renewables content. Hence going back to his own channel.
@davidholden2658
@davidholden2658 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chobaca I think it's because he still wants to cover ICE cars as well as EVs whereas FullyCharged is a pure EV channel. Not sure if hew 'fired' as such or whether it was by mutual agreement.
@grayfool
@grayfool 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. Just shows how the world can work together to produce a great relevant product.
@SquareoftheyearFM
@SquareoftheyearFM 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope there is a future option to delete the engine and replace with more batteries.
@simonyapp
@simonyapp 4 жыл бұрын
I keep asking this, would like to know the weight of fuel tank, engine and generator if removed and more batteries added? I recon you would only get anther 35 ish KWh in so max range being 110 miles.
@SquareoftheyearFM
@SquareoftheyearFM 4 жыл бұрын
Simon Yapp that would suit a lot of trades. Most work in very specific areas. Obviously useless for long range couriers but realistically they drive bigger stuff. I do 150-200 miles a day easily in my eGolf with a top up (not full charge) while I get food/coffee
@davidholden2658
@davidholden2658 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, do a full EV version with double the battery capacity.
@adamlytle2615
@adamlytle2615 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, to me this would be a no brainer option. Even just to offer it without the ice components and not adding any additional battery -- fleet operators should have the data on how many miles their vehicles do in a day. They'd be able to determine how many pure EVs and how many range-extended vehicles would make sense for their own fleet.
@benverdel3073
@benverdel3073 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Also the ChaDeMo option is from the past. New vehicles on Japan are now fitted with type2/CCS. Just wondering how long it takes for new buyers to regret their buy of a gas-gobbler.
@foxylady1048
@foxylady1048 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that very much Jonny,. So sorry that you left Fully Charge, but your shows are very informative. Well done.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny. The blue one looks like it was kitted out for British Gas, maybe lost out to the Vauxhall?
@studley73
@studley73 4 жыл бұрын
What a cracking looking van so so good to see new to the market vans like that
@davidwilliams6602
@davidwilliams6602 4 жыл бұрын
This is what we need to see as an alternative taxi as the sliding doors are more sensible in narrow roads and a bigger boot space for luggage added together with the extra seat in the front this would be the game changer the taxi trade needs (there is a taxi trade outside of London). Make them and they will sell....guaranteed!
@markahomer
@markahomer 4 жыл бұрын
Basic hybrid principle of how diesel electric locomotives have worked for 100 years.
@drdoolittle5724
@drdoolittle5724 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent yet again Jonny! - something missing on delivery vans are the old sliding doors for drivers, possibly due to safety but with today's brains, something could so easily could be designed electronic???
@Wookey.
@Wookey. 4 жыл бұрын
Paxsters (aimed at urban delivery) have no doors for just this reason: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmbUkoapftGZm6M
@drdoolittle5724
@drdoolittle5724 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wookey. Thanks, but still wonder whether UK regs at moment might nobble innovative ideas like that, especially hammering down motorways - hope I'm wrong!
@michaelwalker1145
@michaelwalker1145 4 жыл бұрын
Order it in black Paint side to look like windows Place orange TAXI lite on top Down the bus / Taxi lane you go😂😂😂
@mowcius
@mowcius 4 жыл бұрын
Shame that the lane cameras pick up your numberplate rather than the appearance of your vehicle!
@michaelwalker1145
@michaelwalker1145 4 жыл бұрын
@@mowcius let front/rear plate fall off due to speed bumps.😂😂😂
@tobyinspain
@tobyinspain 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you heading toward Eco FakeTaxi for a moment
@jur4x
@jur4x 4 жыл бұрын
@@mowcius also not all bus lanes are available for taxis. In some of them taxis are not allowed.
@bernardfender5147
@bernardfender5147 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobyinspain don't know what you mean, explain..🙈🙉🙊
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 4 жыл бұрын
Great base for a small campervan conversion. Easy to make and substitute panels, good clean load bed for seat / bed conversions and we've seen the installation of cupboards and cabinets here already. Starts a bit pricey but really practical for those longer tours where you can get some dinosaur juice from time to time but also you can get electricity at campsites and visitor attractions. Living near Coventry I'm hoping to see a few in the wild soon.
@TheNeoChan
@TheNeoChan 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interested if they scrap the engine and add battery capacity instead.
@freddiefox.
@freddiefox. 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the Tesla approach. I think the range-extender is a good alternative solution for now, until battery energy density improves, since more batteries = more weight, and that's on top of the load the van will be carrying. The range extender means there's effectively no range limit, albeit it's still relying on petrol to achieve that.
@whocares264
@whocares264 4 жыл бұрын
@@freddiefox. i agree, but the petrol engine is not weightless...
@freddiefox.
@freddiefox. 4 жыл бұрын
@@whocares264 Indeed not, and ordinarily I'm not keen on petrol-burning internal combustion engines as range-extenders to top-up the vehicle's on-board battery pack. However, in a specialist taxi or delivery van application such as this, where it will be driven almost all day I think it's the right solution for now, until people are more confident with EV range and the charging network speed and availability.
@whocares264
@whocares264 4 жыл бұрын
@@freddiefox. i know what you mean, but in the uk we are not going to get a good charging network but all is not lost i have two evs and my motto is range is everything this van thing should have a minimum of 250 mile range rain wind or shine and load so a 100 kw battery would be needed expensive but doable, save some money and weight of the fossil engine and tank of fossil juice...
@freddiefox.
@freddiefox. 4 жыл бұрын
​@@whocares264 I guess the market will decide. There are other bus and van manufacturers out there (e.g. Arrival) with battery only products and it's a fast-developing industry where presently the only constant is change. It can't come soon enough.
@JScot92
@JScot92 3 жыл бұрын
This would look Iconic in the Royal Mail livery.
@hazza123live
@hazza123live 4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to be able to go into a scrap yard soon and whip out an ev van drive train for my vw T3
@vabu94
@vabu94 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you think.
@letsgocamping88
@letsgocamping88 4 жыл бұрын
Just so expensive to convert to ev.
@miketucker7466
@miketucker7466 4 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought..
@DiscoFang
@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын
"Whip out"? Which parts? All of the drivetrain, controls and batteries? How much do you think that scrappy is going to charge for those?
@skydog7544
@skydog7544 4 жыл бұрын
Why not do it now with a wrecked Leaf tho?
@PikarinePlays
@PikarinePlays 3 жыл бұрын
It really does look like a modern version of the Austin van that Wallace & Gromit drove
@luisfernandes4145
@luisfernandes4145 4 жыл бұрын
I think they should skip the ICE motor and fit more batterys. Then will be perfect. 👍
@willdarling1
@willdarling1 4 жыл бұрын
"range extender" = "ICE industry extender / pacifier"
@luisfernandes4145
@luisfernandes4145 4 жыл бұрын
@@willdarling1 100% correct!
@iainansell5930
@iainansell5930 4 жыл бұрын
not really, if your an emergency callout plumber,say, you can't tell the customer to stick his thumb in the water leak until you charge the van for 4 hours before you can attend...
@luisfernandes4145
@luisfernandes4145 4 жыл бұрын
@@iainansell5930 it can have fast charge. Besides, there are master valves, aren't there? You don't stick a finger in a leak, do you? 🤣
@garyfromlondon
@garyfromlondon 4 жыл бұрын
@@iainansell5930 And why would you not already have the car charged. If you are a reasonably local call out, I would assume, lots of relativily short journeys. Which would be well within the capability of a say 300 mile fully electric vehicle. This would generally be charged up when not in use, ready for a days work. You don't wait for work to come in, and then say "lets charge the vehicle up"
@wasdwasdwwasd
@wasdwasdwwasd 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see a commercial vehicle made from lightweight materials.
@furkankavsur7638
@furkankavsur7638 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Ford Courier rear ended a Fiat Doblo that just rear ended a Wolseley
@davenz000
@davenz000 4 жыл бұрын
Still less fugly than a Rolls Royce Cullinan.,
@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonny great analysis of this van, that turning circle and 60 miles EV range going to make a lot of London sales.
@Dan.gleeballs
@Dan.gleeballs 4 жыл бұрын
The range they quote is for an empty van, no one runs an empty van, whats the range with a 500kg load on board?
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
They will never tell you that, or how much the range will be affected when the temperature drops
@themadplotter
@themadplotter 4 жыл бұрын
bullshit lots of people have an empty van for more than 50% of the time, also weight doesn't effect range as much as temp or onboard electrics.
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
@@themadplotter why buy a van, to carry things, I am in the building trade, every van I have ever seen on site is carrying a load, in my van I carry about 200kg everyday, that's power tools, hand tools, tool chest, everyday essentials and racking. Before I switched Vans I ran it with nothing in, I was getting 42 mpg, afterwards with all my kit in I get 38mpg So don't say weight isn't an issue because it is, as well as all the other factors..
@Wookey.
@Wookey. 4 жыл бұрын
@@acelectricalsecurity As you just pointed out 'up to 10%' is the difference from empty to loaded. My experience is more like 4% than 10% (Peugeot expert mk1) but then I am rarely anywhere near the payload limit. An EV will suffer reduced range from extra mass more than a diesel in hilly areas, and probably more overall (because the engine is so much more efficient, the load difference is a higher percentage of the available energy - same story with trailers). So that 60 miles could easily be 50 miles when full. Still this is a nice machine if going all-electric is not convenient. And the Ali+composite means it should last pretty-much forever.
@acelectricalsecurity
@acelectricalsecurity 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wookey. I have a Renault traffic, it's a twin turbo version and if you believe the manufacturer I should get 48 mpg no chance no matter how I drive it. The other thing with ev vehicles is the battery your looking at around 8 years, or if it's like my Milwaukee battery 16 months before that failed. At the moment it's too much of a risk for me. Everyone is different though 👍
@deancostello14
@deancostello14 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking van this, hope to see them out and about. We've got 1 london taxi in our local area and I think it looks great.
@joemacleod-iredale2888
@joemacleod-iredale2888 4 жыл бұрын
When will they let Lotus play with one? Your world record might be in jeopardy!
@TheSpectre223
@TheSpectre223 4 жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff for sure, though I'm more interested in the future of EV campervans, both official and self-builds based on vans and minibuses, and a range extender style would be great because you can use the main battery for the leisure as well as the drive, but still have the ICE so you won't get stuck if you leave the heater on overnight.
@rogerlafrance6355
@rogerlafrance6355 4 жыл бұрын
The body style would look and work well for a ute-pickup or flat bed truck. Many more trades use them rather than vans.
@LynGriffiths70
@LynGriffiths70 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm convinced that all current vans are designed to fall apart at 5 yrs or 100k, my Vivaro has done just that and cost over £4k to put right, I should have sold it 6 months ago, manufacturer's should have pressure put on them to make vehicles last 10 or even 20 yrs if saving the planet is a genuine concern.
@mroctarine
@mroctarine 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of deliveries round us in very old diesel vans, owner /driver gig economy? Will need to have some serious incentives to get those clunkers off the road at that price.
@ijaen
@ijaen 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t look that bad. I like it. Makes total sense.
@simonelliott7570
@simonelliott7570 4 жыл бұрын
Really impressed with this hopefully the others will up there game.
@SD-tj5dh
@SD-tj5dh 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely makes sense if all the vans are returning to a hub at the end of every shift. Big warehouse with a roof full of solar panels and rows of fast chargers. They could even in the future have a local V2G setup to optimise the power usage at the hub. You could pretty much run the vehicles for free. These make absolutely economic sense. They could be even more green and the backup generators can run either full conventional fuel, E85 or full biofuel.
@siviter
@siviter 4 жыл бұрын
They should add a 240v outlet in the load area and an external option also for tradesmen to power their tools.
@alan_wood
@alan_wood 4 жыл бұрын
This would be perfect for me. I rarely travel more than 20 miles a day for my work but a few times a year I'd like to be able to visit family nearly 300 miles away. I'd have to sell the house, though.
@flyingpanhandle
@flyingpanhandle 4 жыл бұрын
Previously worked for Royal Mail, this could quite easily be used on park and loops without any heartache to posties. No brainer.
@csjames69
@csjames69 4 жыл бұрын
Metres cubed? We say cubic metres. So the VN5 has a capacity of 5 cubic metres.
@k.j.hulander2204
@k.j.hulander2204 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the same thing...
@gustavfenk4021
@gustavfenk4021 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the same thing. 5 metres cubed could be interpreted as 5 x 5 x 5 metres = 125 cubic metres.
@k.j.hulander2204
@k.j.hulander2204 4 жыл бұрын
Gustav Fenk that would be an unusual interpretation. A quick google search for “5 metres cubed” gives 5000 litres as the top hit, i.e. 5 cubic metres. However, I agree that saying “5 cubic metres” sounds better than reading out 5m3, which works best in a text.
@theapocalypsechronicles3
@theapocalypsechronicles3 3 жыл бұрын
Bonded aluminium frame and lotus are mentioned in a minute of each other. There is a quiet connection.
@dwfun-xt6fl
@dwfun-xt6fl 4 жыл бұрын
Btw that noise on the background is the only person in here and thats a robot...
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny - nice to see you again. Not with "him" anymore - that's fine, there's plenty of room for two in the EV news world. I've always liked your style and content, so here goes again. BTW, rumor has it you broke away when you found out Robert was British. True or not, it's what I've been telling folks who've asked (zero thus far). This van is a TOTAL JUMP START - way ahead of everyone else. Stunning. I don't think they can make enough, they are that GOOD.
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Im sure Postman Pat would be glad of the publicity. Great looking vehicles. . 👍👍
@flashman4571
@flashman4571 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a camper van in here somewhere
@iainansell5930
@iainansell5930 4 жыл бұрын
i'd rather go for the VW EV camper lol
@jur4x
@jur4x 4 жыл бұрын
Do these come with wrappers from Macky and loads of empty Costa cups all over cabin? Also, let's appreciate these vans in pristine condition, since this is the last time we see them unscratched.
@TheProjectOverload
@TheProjectOverload 4 жыл бұрын
Great video content - Something different and very interesting - Thanks Jonny for sharing!
@buddysinsight9834
@buddysinsight9834 4 жыл бұрын
As a life long van user Jonny I love it.
@giri1478
@giri1478 4 жыл бұрын
loved the video - thank you :) Hope to see more coverage of EV and their price comparisons Johny :) Thank you
@steve228uk
@steve228uk 4 жыл бұрын
Those steelies really just finish off that lovely design 👌
@dweiss1
@dweiss1 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of using composite panels for the sides. The vehicles built by the Saturn brand in the US were that way, until they started rebranding other vehicles. One question, what was the thinking on putting the single sliding door on the passenger side? I can understand that if you are parked on a residential street it may be safer to access your tools from the off-street side. But, you won't be able to just jump out and have quick access to your tools on a job site per se.
@zocke
@zocke 4 жыл бұрын
Did I hear that right? 63 mile electric range with a 31 Kwh battery? That are some horrendous bad numbers. Tesla model 3 standard range + have twice the battery size and four times the range. Even my 8 year old Kangoo Z.E have 75 mile range with an 22 Kwh battery with 13000 miles on it.
@TheByard
@TheByard 4 жыл бұрын
In the late 50s one of the London evening newspapers, I think the Evening News had vans based on the London chassis. The coach built van body was mounted behind the drivers door pillar, the nearside luggage space had a sliding door fitted and a seal behind that. The drivers mate would sit there and count the newspapers for the next newsagents, jump out off the sliding door and sprint into the shop. Saturday classified football results would be issued in the three London papers and the first van to the area sold the most papers. How do I know all this well I was a van runner for The Star and we held the records for Saturday sales to North London. The Drivers name was Charlie Brown and played the tune on the throttle of the Austin A60 van.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent anecdote, thank you.
@Android-vk8yh
@Android-vk8yh 4 жыл бұрын
A few questions isn't it more important to have a beep beep sound, car sound not when the doors opened because that's obvious but when these vans are moving or reversing because we all know what van drivers are like ,I should know I used to be one🤣 glad these are still being built in Coventry but what's going to happen if our relationship with the Chinese goes to pot?
@aserta
@aserta 4 жыл бұрын
Altho this is a smaller capacity, the setup as is, lends itself to city (and close to city) borne businesses. This would make a great van for example for rapid deliveries (well...maybe not in London...but ye get my idea). Food deliveries, priority mail, flower shops, heck...this could even be a fast response medical/fire fighting vehicle with a few tweaks (tho i'm unsure of what the laws and regulations are regarding such vehicles, IE, if you're allowed a vehicle like this). TLDR, it being smaller, is actually a bonus point in front of the competition.
@F15HHOOKS
@F15HHOOKS 4 жыл бұрын
2:34 You had me until "range extender EV". 😒
@BobMonkeypimp
@BobMonkeypimp 4 жыл бұрын
Why? Surely that's a happy medium.
@brechtthebest
@brechtthebest 4 жыл бұрын
That will drive the acceptance of BEV in the long run, so it is a necessary evil
@TheDanishSpaceman
@TheDanishSpaceman 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... lack of ambition
@temporarynoble
@temporarynoble 4 жыл бұрын
Would be good to option it as a full ev with an additional battery in place of the ICE generator? Looks good for a camper conversion too...
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for a 20-30% increase in cell density, together with a corresponding decrease in price, then the floodgates open.
@nickbarton5937
@nickbarton5937 4 жыл бұрын
Just got one on trial, we'll see how it goes
@Joseph-jy5lz
@Joseph-jy5lz 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent looking van with some incredible options. Possibly a great vehicle for your jobbing electricians and trades person
@jeremyfearon3114
@jeremyfearon3114 4 жыл бұрын
The company I work for runs a typical van for 150,000 miles, typically over 5 years. In this time a £30k van loses 95% of its value and is pretty much finished. You would have to stretch the lifespan to at least 8 years to make the costs comparable and the only way to make any fuel cost savings would be to charge overnight and during the day for the return trip, not very easy at the moment. Having said that, it's a much higher quality piece of kit than our current baked bean tin on wheels, so I hope the fleet team are considering these.
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny, surprised to hear you say Aluminium does not corrode, it does, very much so, and is just as dependent on corrosion protection as steel is.
@hankthetank185
@hankthetank185 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonny, can you ask Geely? to make a people carrier for families. I reckon that would sell well. Great video Jonny.
@SMlFFY85
@SMlFFY85 4 жыл бұрын
That factory is playing havok with the camera, that white van is brighter than the sun.
@pachy444
@pachy444 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate cheers for that... I do have a concern with the (very commendable) ethos of buying vehicles for longer use but there's a huge drawback to that & that is technology itself.. Things are moving fast & today's cutting edge can go blunt very fast. That van certainly has flexible use options though doesn't it... First thing I've seen in ages that makes practiced sense 👍
@MyHotWheelsCollection
@MyHotWheelsCollection 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning, I'm thinking ideal for a 'green' small camper conversion...
@RedBatteryHead
@RedBatteryHead 4 жыл бұрын
I can fully understand this is a stepping stone. Lots of these workman are to ICE minded for full BEV. Great explanation on the abilities. Looks pretty big too. I think it's a Caddy eater in that urban restricted area's.
@christopherjohns968
@christopherjohns968 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking and informative watch Jonny. Nice one, and like the Taxi, a game changer. Nice steelies too. Almost regal. Keep them coming bud.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 жыл бұрын
It should definitely come with a few 240 V outlets for powering micro wave, coffee machine, compressor, spot welder, charging tools etc that a tradesman can need. If it can charge at 11 kW it should be able to discharge at that rate too.
@oquemaur
@oquemaur 4 жыл бұрын
At last!! British built too. Come on people let’s get this ball rolling
@ianjoyce5120
@ianjoyce5120 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny, they are a common sight in Coventry too. We make them.
@whocares264
@whocares264 4 жыл бұрын
Volvo Car Group (Volvo Cars) is owned by Zhejiang Geely Holding (Geely Holding) of China......i think coventry assembles them...
@stuwillis7710
@stuwillis7710 4 жыл бұрын
I like it Jonny if I was in the market for a small van. This would probably suit. Yes the price is high but as you said the warranty and running cost levels it out
@trevorwhite915
@trevorwhite915 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonny that is some van I know Australia Post is looking at replacing all their Mercedes vans with electric in the near future obviously the way to go.
@jfk64kennedy95
@jfk64kennedy95 4 жыл бұрын
driven 5 full size Ford vans , a 1973, '74, '78, '87 and a '98 over 30 yrs, don't like any of the new vans aesthetically, that's one of best loking vans seen in quite awhile
@usaverageguy
@usaverageguy 4 жыл бұрын
Is there now a competition between Car Pervert and Fully Charged? This video was posted very quickly. Something which is not usual for this channel.
@chaospxl_
@chaospxl_ 4 жыл бұрын
Quite a smart looking thing. Hopefully it won't kill the Berlingo though!
@killercarpcatcher
@killercarpcatcher 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Jonny. This Geely company seem to know what they're doing.
@Duxhorne
@Duxhorne 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first electric vehicle I like, but I can’t see tradesman running to buy one of these as of the load space and price 50k for a van is a big ask of someone who’s having to make big payments on other aspects of there life and business. I also love the fact they use “built to last” as a sales pitch they should ask tradesmen and delivery drivers how many miles they’ve done I know of several with over 200k miles and they’re still going strong, with the right maintenance any vehicle can last forever.
@benrobinson6345
@benrobinson6345 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting van. look forward to seeing these around and even possibly a drive in one
@bayvanman
@bayvanman 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, for sensible model numbers!
@michaltheb
@michaltheb 4 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the possibilities here: tuned up or camper van, family van, etc. Go Coventry! I cannot wait to find out more about this one
@RAFchurchlawford4469
@RAFchurchlawford4469 4 жыл бұрын
Go China! 🙁
@peem1244
@peem1244 4 жыл бұрын
Hi JonnyPerv, super video and a really interesting vehicle. Would make a great disability car/van, my powered wheelchair would fit in the back quite easily. Thanks for sharing, stay safe and keep up the good work. 👍🖖🚙🏍😎
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the RX should be a delete option with the choice for a frunk or extra battery module there. Mail vans should never need petrol. As courier van, a little bit every day perhaps.
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny - Please stop using the shaky camera transition effect. That left-right-left comes close to triggering a visual disturbance response in some people, similar to a strobe or flashing light. Thank you. I love your channel.
@wobby1516
@wobby1516 4 жыл бұрын
It’s ideal for the service industry I once owned, cost wouldn’t put me off as we used to run VW 4 wheel drive vans in Ireland and they 18 years ago cost €22000 When looking at the price you have to remember that all the VAT on the van is reclaimed if your vat registered, most companies are.
@grahamarnold2591
@grahamarnold2591 4 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS ADHESIVE --NEVER GLUE... GREAT VIDEO JONNY ---TWEETED TO ALL...
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
Whoops, OK. Is glue a bad word in manufacturing?
@grahamarnold2591
@grahamarnold2591 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Hi Jonny way back when i studied for an OND in Technology as it was know then --I did was given a project --Study Adhesives ---change my whole way of thinking--- from then to this day -- i always think of the SPACE SHUTTLE TILES stuck on --but person sticking needed a PHD... alot of piston's have telemetry devices attached inside by Adhesive.. The World of Dentistry --alot of TV stars with veneers all affix with ultra violet light activated adhesive.. and now in construction CT1 , Sticks like SH1T, Gripfill,--- Tiling --fastflex--to Mitre fix for MDF in 5 secs.. THE WHOLE OF ADHESIVE .. PS just hit the subscribed button..
@AquarianStarr
@AquarianStarr 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting times, and I remember back when I was 14 yrs old, on my knees with my head under the bonnet of an original mini, changing the points and plugs and scraping the shit off the distributor cap. Them where the days.
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