Why This Is My Favourite Way To Play Star Citizen Right Now...

There are many ways to TRY and play Star Citizen... This is mine.
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[@Lycrius]

Incase it has not been said or people just dont know. To retain manually installed items you need to store the ship whit the new modules in it and then go to loadout and swap anything and hit save. Boom your looted weapons now persist through insurance claims.

[@MetalsirenIXI]

Interesting, good catch

[@alice_muse]

1. To keep your scaved equipment loadouts, just send the ship to storage, open vehicle manager, unequip something (doesnt matter what) save loadout, then re-equip it, and save again. 2. A tip for getting into a landed hammerhead, park the corsair cockpit-to-cockpit and use the roof elevator to access the hammerhead's docking port. If it's parked on level ground, you can walk straight from the corsair's roof into the hammerhead. :)

[@ultimatum_]

I've been doing this for the last year, the 4.0 preview was beautiful for it, especially around the jump Portal. I used the stanton gateway as a base as the amount of DC ships around the jump point is amazing. I've found Polaris's full with slam and eggs just sat there. I usually take a P-52 out and then take the actual ship back to hanger to strip.

[@lukegn]

Most likely they will give weapons that came from one of your own claimed ships a tag just like cargo gets a "contracted" tag during hauling missions. This would prevent you from being able to sell components from you or a friend's ship while still being able to sell other player's weapons. That or they just wont add it back in for a while since it is very abusable.

[@oscardruke5106]

@lukegn so i thought, but what if I just want to upgrade my ship and rightfully sell the old items? That's a common practice in every game. Sadly, it is not that simple.

[@randomuserame]

"Abusable" doesn't matter in a dog ahh, glorified technical proof of concept that they're asking you to spend over 100 dollars on, multiple times per year, every year, for over a decade.

[@DTOXTV]

@@oscardruke5106 Exactly, this is where the issue arises. At what point are the components no longer part of the claimed ship?

[@oscardruke5106]

@DTOXTV maybe the problem lies more on the insurance thing. There's ships abandoned all over the place. You lose your ship, just wait a little bit or pay a little fee, and there you go, as many times as u want. I know that with the current state, punishing dead too much can be unfair because of the bugs, but they have to think in a way of nerf that, like increasing the amount of the fee for claims with each claim on a period of time, or something like that.

[@tylerjackson8543]

Maybe a tag marking components you own, but also a timer that is some fixed amount (think days) that would nerf the price of the component until it expired. so you can sell items you scavenged for full price, and your own components for full price provided you've waited the necessary amount of time.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Been re-equipping and upgrading my ships this way. Finding wrecks around various POIs has opened up an awesme, organic, and emergent exploration loop that we just do not get in other video games. This is what really makes Star Citizen one of a kind.

[@DTOXTV]

This is my feeling too. And it doesn't interact with TOO much broken shit so is somewhat reliable lol.

[@ParaquatSC]

Little config tip DTOX, you can set your weapons convergence point, which is where your weapons projectiles will all briefly meet if you're not locked onto a target. It you set it to something between 50-80m, you can just stay exactly that distance away and your weapons will all fire to your crosshairs center. Makes it much easier for killing NPCs on the ground from your ship.

[@DTOXTV]

Yeah i should play with this more often, thanks for the reminder.

[@toecutter9372]

My version of SCAV life is hanging out in a vulture at Grimm Heck and scraping all the abandoned ships. Being in that area, you get some trouble, but damn is it fun

[@andresespana3216]

damn how are the camping polaris and hammerheads treating you bud?

[@oregonmodding]

I do the save but use my vulture to soft death them and the tractor to bring in crates. Then fracture the ships in my hanger after stripping them

[@tespado]

Just hope they don't wipe the inventory when they re-enable selling components. :D

[@Onion1976]

There’s gonna be a real funny comment saying something like “well well well, boy do I have news for you” when the re add that 😭

[@DTOXTV]

Oh im pretty sure they will man lol. I don't expect to keep anything these days.

[@blackh0l353]

I just started this game loop and I love it. I go to bunkers and steal the ships components, containers, and anything else I can get my Pyro Multi-Tool to grab!

[@VashWildHeart]

Loved this. This is exactly what I do as well! I didn't think about the fuses. Playing a Scav and a salvager great. I like what you said. I'm not making money, but im saving money.

[@DTOXTV]

Yes!

[@roninspoon3935]

Scavenging and looting are my favorite game loops. I get a surprising amount flying around pyro stations in my Argo tractor.

[@Space_Marine_96]

Hey DTOX love your videos. A word of advice. When moving small items…. The handheld multi-tool is way faster and maneuverable for short distances. Keep up the good work. 07

[@DTOXTV]

Is it? Hmm ill play around with it. Cheers man!

[@NeverAnotherNephilim]

@DTOX you could make it where any item taken into storage gets a ID#, and ID# items are un storable (or sellable) until the ship is stored (/with saved new items) for a person who generated the ID#. Wouldn't stop people from trying some weird work around with other people giving them their ships but it would make it impossible / and trackable who is duping items and how / when.

[@andrewna9628]

Not really. How does that determine if it is legitimate salvage from your own wreck? Like if you get blown up you are not allowed to go back and try to salvage what remains? What if you come across idk 10 hammerheads but you didn't know it was all from the same person doing scrapping. It's legitimate salvage to you but still technically shows up as duping in the tracking of the system. Also component trading would just overwrite the ID# if it is based on when it gets stored. As long as you get top tier components for free from insurance there is no system that can really prevent duping. The best you can do is slow it's pace but you run into potentially harming legit players.

[@NeverAnotherNephilim]

@@andrewna9628 the point is there is no legit self salvage from an insured ship. Either its coming back in insurance, and you have to let it go, or your ship is saved with other components. Yeah i don't think you can stop a mutliple hop switch with this system / people "washing" parts under their friends storage.. As far as you point about it giving false flags, i didn't mean for to implement the system for automatic punishment, just logging who is cheating. If someone is duping the same items "on accident" over and over again type of thing .. Idk i still think its a ez fix to stop most of the cheating and catch most of the cheaters. Just not the people willing to go waayyy out of the way

[@imeliqt]

Yo this upload rate is 🔥, keep it going

[@Raptor_X]

Simply add a unique identifier to the components that are removed from your ship that are part of the stock loadout and make them worthless. That fixes the "claim to sell" problem.

[@spacep0d]

That was ridiculously entertaining. Good job!

[@ther3aperr558]

Love this content i just installed this game after buying 2 years ago and deffo need a new pc to play but cant wait to get into this properly and build my fleet

[@sketto1283]

I can relate. I've been doing this more and more. UEC is not the drive but rather a bonus, I just like getting stuff. I soon realized I don't have to buy anything! Which is rather satisfying.

[@Draugur_]

Really enjoyed this, it was like a self contained one ep adventure. Would love to see more!

[@andrewfanner2245]

Its interesting to see how many ships have physicalised compnents that dont readily fit in and out. I'm happily doing this and found that the recent patch removed the lot, drives, good shields, Hornet rurrets, the lot. Vulture is a good option but wont hold S5 weapons.

[@Jaroneko]

I'm mostly an opportune scav myself. I don't actively go out looking for lootable ships, but I do admit it's mighty hard looking away from one when I see one. Of course this leads into all kinds of emergent adventures as they're not always as vacant as they may seem etc.

[@neilcampbell4362]

I think the best way to avoid insurance fraud in the game is to give every component a serial number. Just straight up delete anything that has a duplicate serial number that is not attached to a ship

[@MALA123]

Your videos keep getting better and better in quality I will sub ❤

[@ddavidel]

Please share with us more of your adventures! Just found out about your channel and im hooked. Great work keep it up!

[@MetalsirenIXI]

I like that you still use the Corsair even after the "nerf". It was greatly overpowered with those 4 front guns under the pilots control. Nice you are you making it work.

[@DTOXTV]

The Corsair was never good BECAUSE of its pilot controlled guns! The complaining over its nerf's are crazy. They were just a bonus. It's a great ship with solid utility and it looks iconic. I love it!

[@VonSpud]

Interesting vid... That had to be a noob in the Cutty at end. I'd have gone for the juggler and dug into your Corsair with my Cutties quad Mantis 220s. Maybe even kamikaze if I'd lost big beforehand 😂 I'm definitely into the Scanvenger thing...looting is my bread n butter after a protect the bunker mission. Had one problem this week, finished a mission, looted everything in bunker. A freelancer was close to the bunker and looked like the turrets had hit it. Had 8 minutes remaining before trespassing. I made the mistake of stepping inside the wreck. Soon as I stepped aboard the turrets blew up my loaded Cutty Red. Ended up pulling the boxes out of my burning ship an running them up the hill...to come back later to retrieve. Only the turrets took out my Constellation Taurus... Bailed for the night.

[@TravelingAnvil]

Loving the videos my dude! The shenanigans are too good in Pyro.

[@BuzzkillZone]

I like your background music. It has this strong vibe of "I don't take myself seriously."

[@solarmonk]

Love your playstyle. Picked up a number of tips watching this. Big up

[@SirAroace]

Star Citizen is a project that I feel even in it broken state, even if if fails, will always be worth it.

[@MattariOnline]

They could link items to a ship's ID (like a VIN) and, if you sell your own stuff, you get a fine, no money, and/or additional time on your next insurance claim. The reclaim time could be longer as they have to "source new components" for it. Or.... They could also take a more real-life approach: Have a system to check if someone sells components and reclaims the ship multiple times in a particular period of time. If so, you get no money for selling them, get a hefty fine, and get a Crimestat of 2 or higher. Insurance fraud is a real thing, so if the game wants to be a hyper-realistic space game, why not focus on more realism?

[@NozomuYume]

The problem with this is you can just have a friend take your parts and sell them, so you need AI insurance claim adjusters that were able to do research and build a case that you are in fact committing fraud.

[@AJ_Meyers]

BLUF: imo the only fix is to add the retail price of components and weapons to the repair cost. You would have a tick-box menu screen at repair with the option to a choose stock component/weapon or the same upgrade you had when you lost the ship; again, at full retail price for a new copy of the lost upgrade or a MUCH reduced price for stock. The only prob is the vast majority of ship loses (esp for non-combat players) is bugs. Still, I do think this would be workable, though obviously not ideal, given the current state of SC.

[@someguy5264]

It could be as simple as assigning an ID to all components that get attached to your ship, Identifying it as a ship component that is unique to your ship and that ships iteration ie that particular claim. Then if you Sell a bunch of parts of that ship just before or after it gets claimed, you get flagged, get a certain amount of Flags and you get busted some how. Or even a timer that locks you out of selling comps for ships you claimed.

[@BuccaneerOrion]

You guys should do ship jacking. I made several vids on jumping players and shutting them down and stealing their ships just to scrap/salvage it. Puts alot of gameplay loops all in one.

[@BARTISHERE]

Haha, that was a good sesh, nice edit as always o7

[@masterquacc]

I've been doing this since 4.0 came out what are the chances LOL, I've been taking prospector ore pods as they sell for 5k each

[@sleepfishl]

I stick to salvage and Mining in Stanton. Going even close to Pyro would be a guaranteed death sentence for me. XD

[@callsigngrimdoll]

Aye. Me as well. Love to see stories like this though.

[@TheaterTech43]

This looks like some much fun!! Gonna bust out my Corsair and give it a try

[@Skittleshunter64]

They could easily add a player owner tag to components and weapons and that way selling your own stuff gives you less money

[@Bobby_Go]

Assuming that the weapons and components that come with your ship can be tagged, the simplest solution would be to add insurance fraud fees to an insurance claim when the original parts are sold. After some length of time the fees are removed. So if someone claims a ship right after selling a bunch of parts they they would have to "pay back" the amount of the parts in order to reclaim their ship, but if there's a decent time gap between selling the parts and making the claim then there would be no fees. This would let players sell parts to upgrade their ships while hopefully dissuading players from abusing the system. There would be a small risk for players legitimately getting killed soon after legitimately selling off their ships parts, but I would hope that wouldn't happen to too many people. Maybe to mitigate this risk the fees could start at the value of the parts sold and could gradually go down until they are removed? Or maybe the fees don't start at the full value the first time it happens, but then they increase the more times it happens?

[@DTOXTV]

This definitely seems like one of the more feasible ways to do this. Thanks for the ideas!

[@Hairyloft]

Great Vid love the scav shenanigans

[@flashbacker8935]

0 seconds in: oo this should be interesting 60 seconds in: wonder where he's going with this... 120 seconds in: THATS THE MOST BRILLIANT THING IVE EVER SEEN

[@Stewey]

Even I have been enjoying Pyro with the IMI folk this last week. This is how the game USED to be. You just log on, have no restrictions and have fun.

[@DTOXTV]

Exactly man.

[@crazythymos6317]

yeezus i thought you were a waaay bigger youtuber than 16,7k haha love the vids man. Started playing star citizen seriously couple weeks back and im enjoying it so far! still very newb tho

[@DTOXTV]

Eh thanks, welcome to the pain-train. Hang in there! lol.

[@crazythymos6317]

@@DTOXTV thanks! I find myself playing only unfinished games 😅 i geuss i like alpha and beta games haha...** laugh's in Tarkov and Star citizen**

[@djdidge]

Thats one of the most entertaining SC video in a good while!

[@matteobarbarini3120]

Simply adding a code on the components which belong to your ship in a way that at the time you go to sell them at market, the game realize they are from your ship.

[@RobCoxxy]

Missile locking the soft-deathed Nomad. Brutal.

[@DTOXTV]

[@MetalsirenIXI]

I am a simple salvager; I explore with my Fortune (weaponless) and scrape panels.

[@wdelisfort]

This was great!

[@MikeMaker851]

In the last playable big patch I was flying around in my Caterpillar full of looted cargo and ship weapons. Abandoned ships and wrecks were everywhere. I have an SRV now so just waiting for the patch to stabilise

[@mndeg]

it's already very stable. they did something with the last hotfix that went to live

[@Eric-kt6kv]

14:54 It's not that he didn't know how to flare, but more so that he was in nav mode

[@CammieShark]

I do worry that it will be something similar to how cargo crates are marked as "contracted" and your salvage work will retroactively be unsellable

[@corditeshade]

I enjoyed this video loads! It's a good plan, I'm going to try and give it a go to get bits a peices and then make money with panel salvaging (as boring as it is)

[@DubStepTomatoFarmer]

I’m new to SC. I’m confused about the way you’re supposed to equip weapons. Are you supposed to do it using the F1 vehicle menu or the manual multi tool method?

[@LegoJJ]

both work, if your ship is stored at a station, and guns/coolers/shields are in that stations inventory you can equip from your mobiglas (make sure to save loadout). Out in the wild, you can pick up missiles and guns and such and attach them to your ship (alt+f, ship settings, unlock all ports). if you make it back to a station with those guns, you can store ship, save loadout, and they're yours forever

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

I prefer the quiet life, I haul cargo, trade commodities and do some light on the ground scavenging/looting.

[@cheezybacon]

you can also just store the modules in your hanger and install them normally

[@Deezaadsolus]

Hilariously entertaining as usual. Thanks again

[@Shakalakahiki8]

I believe the turret in the Corsair can shoot missiles by the way.

[@HelloSquiggles]

Funny thing is, you can do essentially the same thing with claims and salvage. If you have a C2 and a Reclaimer you could fly that C2 out, grab your reclaimer and then strip it down for an easy 400k.

[@Eucep]

Insurance fraud prevention is simple: Every item gets a set ID which sticks to it. And it could add gameplay features like 'hacking'. So, let's say you got a rhino weapon which you stuck onto your own hammerhead. That items should get an ID set of 'Playername'-'shipID'-'shippoint'-'weaponID' to DTOX-DTOXHH01-Tur1A-Rhino(datextimeobtained) and similar setup for other items. Right now, the reason you can do the insurance claim is because upon every spawn, those items get a new ID number. I base that suspicion upon the fact that upon every spawn, your own ships seem to get a new ID, which is bloody odd for a persistant game.

[@NozomuYume]

Because insurance claim is getting a *NEW ITEM*. They're not magically transporting your destroyed ship from the scrapyard or from another station, it's an entirely new hull with a new hull ID. It's the same way when you make an insurance claim on your stolen/wrecked car the replacement car is not your old car, it's a new car with a new VIN, they're not magically pulling your car from the lake it got dumped in and making it new. If you claim your ship your old ship is still out there in the verse. In the past they did make items that came with your ship stock not-sellable, including insurance replacements for those items. Aftermarket items you added, however, remained sellable when claimed from insurance. The problem with making all insurance-provided items unsellable is that it makes players completely immune to being raided for profit from their parts. It provides a strong disincentive for pirates. The real fix will be to make frequent insurance claims more punishing to the player so they have a disincentive to make repeated insurance claims -- this is how it works in real life -- if you wreck your car over and over your insurance rate will go up and eventually nobody will insure you. Unfortunately that would require people to stop treating their ships as disposable items and actually not take as many risks with them.

[@GARL0CK]

I'm building a stock pile so that I can become Nick Cage in Lord of War. POLARIS torpedos are a GOLD mine.

[@Ixalith]

They could do the same things as the "contracted" cargo but for component and only for the ship owner

[@Deamondox]

Hey! How much weapons do the corsair Pilot is able to use?

[@oregonmodding]

Dtox do you have a org? My game play loop is a scav also. I hate going to some places solo

[@claytonbakke7346]

Make player ship parts have a steep loss of profit and have npc's have full price. Also allow npcs to have different weapons/components besides being basic. If an Npc is given parameters for a a level of skill they also get better components/weapons.

[@uss_04]

Been meaning to do scavenging gameplay but having a hard time coordinating a time and a team to try it. Nomad with ATLS in the rear seems about right

[@Sunstorm_KD]

My favorite way to play Star Citizen is to log out and wait for patch 4.1. (for now)

[@peppi8491]

Any suggestion to reduce server load in stanton? Because most ships are locked and closed or in a armistice zone.

[@strixuss1859]

tag items as personaly owned or insured parts if they are connected to an insurance claim easy fix

[@coyote-1312]

I think it's time for CIG to stop giving you back your components on claim. 1 - Make all ships have a "good enough" default kit. Default items aren't worth anything. 2 - Make ships revert to default on claim. We can now stockpile and loot good gear to run better than default weapons, but risk losing those good items too!

[@koruzarius8071]

... I think that was my Polaris =D I got killed by NPC's and didn't have time to come back and recover it.

[@Quaternion-Games]

For insurance fraud: tag components with org id, can't sell comps from your own org. Tag with LZ spawn id, same thing. Makes it a little harder but not impossible.

[@oscardruke5106]

But what if someone just wants to upgrade and sell the old items? It won't be fair. I think this is the way, but they have to go a little further, is not that simple

[@nate5864]

If you don't mind me asking what are your pc specs? game looks amazing. I've wanting to get into the game recently

[@DTOXTV]

Hey Nate, of course, i have a 3090, 5800x3D, 32GB RAM and SC is always on a fast SSD. But the game is still very much unoptimized!

[@nNicok]

Just make it so you get a crimestat and a fine for insurance fraud that's impossible to get rid of unless you pay back the amount you got from salvaging your own components. And you don't have access to station services until you do. This includes them locking your storage and hangar.

[@HappyHungrySleepy23]

you should start selling those weapons to other players for less than the store cost

[@chadvader974]

Gets desire to come back to SC, watches DTOX... sees him fall through ground. Uninstalls game again..

[@robertmorse3817]

There were 2 of you against 1 cutty! That was harsh man

[@azrinaswan80]

These gameplays are refreshing

[@sanctred]

The only way I think they can fix insurance fraud stuff is by making claiming your ship really painful. If it was 72 hours to claim your ship and you only get base components it would fix all of this.

[@JayJiggles]

Hotfix my beloved ❤

[@Nick-McGurk]

No ingame insurance to be paid, so no fraud to be made. As long as the reclaim-timers are that short, there is nothing to prevent abusing. also, griefing couldnt be used extensive due to the lack of ships after some time and for some time. so, as long as this doesnt work, let em citizens have a way to play the game even if there are times when almost everything is broken. ti buy ingame stuff to create ingame gameplay to test the alpha

[@Kiwi_Dave]

Finally a video that's about actually enjoying the game instead of trying to make millions per hour.

[@quaz506]

I did the exact same time in 4.0 preview and lost all components in the update, so unfair :(

[@talos029]

Great Video!

[@OshidaBCF]

very simple way to prevent insurance fraud just make it impossible to sell ship components that are used in a "loadout" of a ship. if you want to sell it, first remove it from your ship using the loadout menu the same exact way you would buy a componant

[@The-Red-Kraken]

This was fun!!!

[@glorfindel72]

My favourite way of playing doesn't matter because I have been unable to log in all weekend. I'm back to work tomorrow, so that's another lost weekend. I have to chalk up to experience. What a waste of time. Now, my favourite way of playing Star Citizen will be to play litetally any other game until it gets released fully. You guessed it I'll probably never play again.

[@BWEPS]

They just need to put tags on each component that receipts the item to the player

[@Jackpkmn]

At least you can store your salvaged components. When I attempt to store them they vanish.

[@cyborg.nation3026]

this game is so cool

[@Dexter-ix1cx]

I loved doing this, mostly against nocs from bounties or merc missions, had a pretty good stockpile of components and weapons i wanted to sell to other players or help outfit org members. All gone with the latest update... Not gonna be doing this anymore any time soon. Sadly the only thing worth getting in this game is money, everytging else is too ephemeral

[@VyoIce]

I understand how to scav weapons but is there any workaround for not being able to rip out internal ship components like the shields, power supplies, coolers, quantums etc.? I can't fit these manually using a tractor. Only mobiglas which obviously doesn't work

[@DTOXTV]

Here's what another commenter left on the video: "Incase it has not been said or people just dont know. To retain manually installed items you need to store the ship whit the new modules in it and then go to loadout and swap anything and hit save. Boom your looted weapons now persist through insurance claims."

[@VyoIce]

@@DTOXTV Interesting, I came across a potential workaround to this components bug as well. I character reset after storing the acquired components in my home hangar on New Babbage. I'm unsure if its what's allowed me to use my components, but they work perfectly just like I purchased them now. Strange, thank you for the tip though.

[@Indi_DevJames]

they could literally have just checked to see if the component came from your ship and nurfed the price of your stuff

[@brewski_gaming]

If only the components and weapons persisted

[@Deez276]

The game is in Alpha. If they could make things more stable so that ships weren't being eaten by hanger elevators, they could worry about insurance fraud. Right now I can't even wash the dirt off my Starlancer or repaint the crusty thing. I'm probably going to claim it soon if it doesn't get squashed by the hanger the next time I log in. They're worried about people duping but I can't even leave anything in my ship when I park it at night. meh

[@liquidflorian]

CIG should put crime stats on players doing insurance fraud. They have to see it happening in the logs.

[@peanuts3886]

Love the scavenging content! I don't understand the insurance thing you mentioned, what were people doing?

[@nikelon8227]

Bruh i spent a whole day today collecting weapons and components from abandoned ships to make some profit and decided to call it a day before selling them and here i am, hearing that i can't sell all that stuff anymore...

[@LegoJJ]

you can sell it, its just for very very cheap compared to what they cost

[@btr003]

They should just do what WoW and other RPG games do with used equipment. If you equip those weapons on your ship, they can no longer be sold at full price. That way looters like you still get your gameplay, and people who are dupping weapons can't do it for a profit. Sure they still get the profit of being able to have a backup weapon on their ship if it ever gets destroyed, but I never had an issue with that. It's the people trying to become millionaires off of dupping that bugs me.

[@proinseasokiellig4388]

I've been doing this a while, lost my stash in the last patch..gutted