Why this nun is fighting to end the death penalty | Helen Prejean | The Reason Interview

[@darkpheonix77]

She talks about a selective level of belief. But then only considers the love and mercy side. God is also just, justice and mercy must be balanced.

[@AJKPenguin]

Correction: she is a religious sister, not a nun.

[@kennorthunder2428]

She's engaged in left hemispheric think at 33:40 (myopic as opposed to right hemispheric thinking -getting the big picture) where she merely sees the criminal in his defenseless state but disregarded the defenseless state of the victim. This is why we envision justice as a scale - there must be balance. Weighed and found wanting.

[@infinitemonkey917]

What about the argument that the only way to stop innocent people being executed is to end capital punishment?

[@kennorthunder2428]

@infinitemonkey917 Because it's ONLY an argument that encourages wilful blindness and never encourages people to find rock solid methods to ascertain the truth, or force those involved in the process to realize that they are dealing with their own pride/ego. Additionally, we all need to fixate on the concept of truth and logic are two sides of the same coin allowing us to ascertain the truth. If there is still cause for doubt, then delays until further evidence is acquired, and life imprisonment. Stick to this formula and innocents won't be killed. Then if it turns out later on evidence is gathered to show that an innocent was executed, then capital punishment for prosecutors and judges for failure of due diligence, unless there is extenuating circumstances. This should sharpen the critical thinking skills of not only the legal entities but society at large.

[@kennorthunder2428]

@infinitemonkey917 @infinitemonkey917 Because it's ONLY an argument that encourages wilful blindness and never encourages people to find rock solid methods to ascertain the truth, or force those involved in the process to realize that they are dealing with their own pride/ego. Additionally, we all need to fixate on the concept of truth and logic are two sides of the same coin allowing us to ascertain the truth. If there is still cause for doubt, then delays until further evidence is acquired, and life imprisonment. Stick to this formula and innocents won't be killed. Then if it turns out later on evidence is gathered to show that an innocent was executed, then capital punishment for prosecutors and judges for failure of due diligence, unless there is extenuating circumstances. This should sharpen the critical thinking skills of not only the legal entities but society at large.

[@kennorthunder2428]

@infinitemonkey917 It's ONLY an argument that encourages wilful blindness and never encourages people to find rock solid methods to ascertain the truth, or force those involved in the process to realize that they are dealing with their own pride/ego. Additionally, we all need to fixate on the concept that truth and logic are two sides of the same coin; allowing us to ascertain the truth. If there is still cause for doubt, then delay, until further evidence is acquired; meanwhile, life imprisonment. Stick to this formula, and innocents won't be ki11ed. Then, if it turns out later on evidence is gathered to show that an innocent was executed, then capital punishment for prosecutors and judges for failure of due diligence, unless there is extenuating circumstances. This should sharpen the critical thinking skills of not only the legal entities but society at large.

[@kennorthunder2428]

@infinitemonkey917 #fuckyoutube for censoring truth

[@kevinkelly1875]

Those who don’t confront evil, are complicit in it.

[@Nein9nein9nein]

Idea for the Nun: Use the tax benefits given by the government to churches, to pay for the prison sentence for life for those on death row. Win win

[@billschlafly4107]

Your proposition is a lose lose IMO but still better than the current system.

[@fnsdjkovnsdkvn]

Really grew to dislike her perspective on the faith on the latter end of this. Simply put, I think she misjudges human nature, not in its creation, but in its fallen state, I think she misjudges what things have and have not changed and what can and cannot change both in the church and the world, and I think she misunderstands to whom a death penalty is a service to.

[@TrickyVickey]

She is not a messenger nor servant. The church of Christ that he founded Never Changes and does not to conform to man’s or woman’s thinking. It our “thinking” that has this world in the mess it is in.

[@yt650]

A look at the logistics in my opinion is important. It currently cost $140 per day average across the United States to keep someone in prison/jail. That comes to $50,000 per year and very possibly and probably that price will escalate a good bit over the next decade or so. So if a prisoner lives for 20 years because there is no death penalty, at current prices we have $1 million invested in him/her. I lean towards no death penalty in many cases unless there is such a conclusive proof such as video and audio and multiple witnesses to the event and I’m speaking about premeditated murder. Other than that, I think they should get life in prison but remember what it’s going to cost society to keep them there. These are not statistics that I came up with, these are government statistics I’m just the messenger. Keep in mind that there have been quite a number of people in the last decade who have been proven to be innocent because of DNA testing, something that wasn’t available a few decades ago at this level.

[@daulken]

All of the (necessary) red tape involved means it costs more to administer capital punishment than to keep them in jail for life, regardless of age.

[@sarahg2653]

@@daulken Interesting. I didn't know that. How/where can I find any data to back that up, if you don't mind?

[@matthewgregson7846]

I didn’t listen to the interview, so I wonder, if she is for life wo parole? Generally, people who get the death penalty are the worst of the worst and have nothing to lose but their life. Some murders do repent later on and rehab themselves, but make no mistake, they probably would not have if they weren’t caught and faced with life in jail! So, what do you do with the worst of the worst? Their very existence makes the world unsafe, presents a huge incarceration problem with very violent individuals and their evil offers nothing positive for mankind

[@TheMrg59]

I guess the question is, how many innocent people are allowed to be killed? The state is run by humans. Humans make mistakes. The number of people subjected to capital punishment who are, in fact, innocent of the crime is not zero. It might be a very small number, relative to the total. But that number is not zero. So, it is on you (the proverbial 'you', not you) who support state capital punishment, to proclaim what the acceptable number of innocent people murdered by the state in mistaken punishment for a crime they did not commit. Life without parole still leaves the door open for correcting, or at least ending the punishment for, that mistake. Death does not.

[@darkpheonix77]

She asks like we can't know which murders are the worst of the worst, cause she is only looking at who the victims is. But we can judge by the motivation of the act, and if the person has any remorse. She dismisses it by claiming it's based on race of victims. No, the worst murders and based on the intent of the killer. There absolutely are acts that are deserving of death as a punishment. I just don't trust the government to be the one determining guilt.

[@richardleston5237]

Doesn’t jury of peers determine guilt and not the government though ?

[@darkpheonix77]

@@richardleston5237 technically. really I just dont trust anyone to determine guilt to the point of death, after the fact. Im fine with life in prison. trials can be biased.

[@TaterActual]

What a load of crap.

[@joevince8538]

Shes yet to read the old testament.

[@Carnivorousplantyum]

If the death penalty is abolished, then justice is also abolished. Rom 13: 3-4 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

[@konradhenkel5971]

She wants to pay for their lives??

[@canadianroots7681]

As a Christian, I am called to hope for the salvation of every person. Where there is life, there is hope.

[@tommypain]

She has done much good to raise the awareness with the death penalty, but don’t be fooled by her progressive statements on faith, morals, and Catholicism. Not everything she states here is the truth nor the official teachings of the Catholic Church.

[@TheSummersilk]

She should be campaigning to privatise the death penalty, not abolish it.