Why This Singaporean Moved Back from the UK

[@MaxChernov]

Do you want to stay in Singapore or move out?

[@Rixynator]

Stay. It's hard to give up efficiency and safety.

[@heavymetalrox268]

Keep my passport & assets in SG, live in the US/CA and if shit happens fly back home.

[@returo7297]

for most Muslim? earth is never been never will the real home, human always in a journey while still in mortal realm, till we back to our real home, the Heaven. So technically by Islam? all human on earth is expat! And for any Durians all human in ASEAN is incompetent occupiers. Durian got rights too to be love! #savedurian 🐡

[@Rixynator]

@@returo7297are you serious right now?

[@returo7297]

u can ask more with ur local Islamic scholar/expert/expat who educated enough in Islam theology/knowledge, btw theology/religion knowledge is legit global highly praised and respected academica major subject@@Rixynatorull be surprised how many excange scholars Muslim/other religio person who learn at eachother Theo Unis . . . and Religi Academica centre/community . . . , not just STEM doin exchange students wouldnt u? and ull also be surprised how many of those expatborn&/raised imam/missionaries/scholars whos well highly respected and accepted even alot more than native/ori born leaders.

[@durian5233]

Those who travel and live overseas will truly appreciate Singapore. There is no place like home.

[@kichia-lk4ql]

Agree. Spore is not perfect, but very very very close. Saying it as someone who has lived in the western hemisphere.

[@leenathayil2039]

@@kichia-lk4ql - I agree and it's very true!

[@leenathayil2039]

​@hieveryone2003 - I agree and it's very true!

[@leenathayil2039]

I've been living in a western country since 2005 and I truly truly truly appreciate my dearest Singapore! In today's chaotic and tough world, Singapore has become a true heaven on earth! ------- coming from a true blue born and bred Overseas Sporean 😃

[@q1000q]

A great michaelian from St Michael primary

[@KS-gb1ne]

Full of respect for my fellow Singaporean! You only appreciate Singapore when you stay away for a number of years. Home is the best!

[@tanchye1720]

A very wise guy. Mature, well experienced, well learned & travelled to know the good, the bad & the ugly.

[@sgholidae]

This is so true, I feel every citizen needs to stay elsewhere for few years and back, they will appreciate home country more

[@allisonin7745]

Well said

[@leenathayil2039]

Yes, I agree and very well said! 🙌

[@juaramy8071]

Singapore is a Malay island...so still foreigner but Malays accommodating then English

[@LeeTing-p3e]

Totally true! I lived in oversea for many years, but I realised my home country is better😂

[@ngungchiasiew8442]

​@juaramy8071 All lands belong to someone somewhere in time .... China 😂 to Mongolia for some period; Rome owns many parts of Europe .... Singapore and all lands ... once own by animals ..... What's important is Singapore is Singaporean land now ... regardless of races, religions, languages and Nationalities 😅😅😅 Countries that insist that their land belongs to one race only .... will discourage integration of all and leads to long term decline ... the strength of SGD against their currencies clearly show the wisdom level of claiming land of one country belong to one race and not the people staying in that country

[@matteaboutblack]

I like how this guest described SG, so intellectual. hope SG citizen appreciates this country, not perfect but better than many others

[@nur_aryani]

I have travelled (as a tourist mostly), and have seen the comparisons of a lot of the daily stuff to Singapore. You kind of appreciate the efficiency & safety of Singapore.

[@niahma3494]

After staying 3 years in Australia, I can relate to him 100%

[@superflyingRaRa]

Especially when it comes to public transport 😂

[@juaramy8071]

hey we never want you in australia mate.

[@fomoyolope3573]

Hi Max: Thank you for the interview. I am impressed by his energy and motivation coming from his experience of living overseas and hard core Singapore. His frank answers say a lot of him. Great job with the interview. I am sure a lot of expat, Singaporean living overseas, ex-Singlish, local and foreigners enjoy watching it.

[@MaxChernov]

Our pleasure!

[@seanlxgue]

I visited Singapore for the first time in February 2023 and I have to say the country works like clockwork. It’s super efficient, clean, easy to navigate, excellent public transport system. It is quite pricey: but well worth the visit.

[@dreamjourneyvincent3657]

You may get almost similar effect in Malaysia 🇲🇾 with theee times much cheaper from Singapore.. ☺️😊

[@seanlxgue]

@@dreamjourneyvincent3657 I have a trip from Dublin via Dubai to Kuala Lumpur in April. Heading out there for 10 days and I’m really looking forward to it. I met a lot of Malaysians working in Singapore and I couldn’t help but gain interest in Malaysia; I’m really looking forward to the much cheaper prices; the food & culture.

[@Asidders]

It's not THAT clean. That image is overdone

[@ttii9]

Chlorox capital.

[@kamariahabdrahim6963]

@@ttii9 Is that bad?

[@arcencielc2065]

Sharing the same comment here: I concur with Nicholas Fang. Singapore 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 In my younger days, I lived in the USA and Europe for over a decade. I made a conscious choice to return to Singapore as I felt that Singapore was the best country for me and my family. I still feel this way. I am happy and grateful to be in Singapore. This is my personal story so there is no need to attack me for my love for Singapore. Haha.

[@Lalalalalelo]

I attack you for not coming back sooner😂

[@trentlim9964]

90% of people will always think their country is still the best. Just like many expats in singapore will return to USA & Europe and think like u, home sweet home. My eyes are wide open. I know there has to be a country better than SG. We're already denser than GAZA.. average housing cost more expensive than HK.. Working more hours than Japan. I dun think chicken rice & 30 mins to anywhere is a reason to stay in SG.

[@juaramy8071]

Singapore is a Malay island...so still foreigner but Malays accommodating then English to chinese. of course china is still real home

[@Lalalalalelo]

@@juaramy8071 I don't understand your point. Can you explain?

[@arcencielc2065]

My fellow Singaporeans, this person@@juaramy8071 is dangerous. He is trying to destroy our multiracial society. I think he is a foreigner who is jealous of Singapore's success. I don't believe that our Malay sisters and brothers would say such a thing.

[@ivyneo7826]

YES, I have worked and live in China for 20 years, I live like any of the China citizen but in my heart, Singapore is my home, now I am home

[@juaramy8071]

no china is your true home.

[@BobsSite-r1z]

I've lived and worked in the UK for 8 years, and am so glad I decided to return. Singapore is super efficient and NOT one of the world's most expensive! That is a comparison to developing and neighbouring countries. Compared to the west . . . Singapore is So Affordable! US/CA??? For me, it's a "No-Brainer" to remain in Sg!

[@Ersanba]

U are so right.. for people like us who have been staying overseas will know SG is not the most expensive city in the world

[@PrincessAmenRa]

Just got back from Sydney. It's a sad state over there. The city has gotten so unaffordable there are homeless people on the street. I saw a young woman sleeping rough outside Woolworths at night.

[@paulinetan4502]

There will still Singaporeans who will give up their citizenship, for greener pastures, which I find it is a huge pity. But i don’t feel sad.

[@trentlim9964]

u're talking in this manner because u already own a flat . Let's see if u still feel the same paying 877k BTO in AMK or 1million resale in ghim moh. Or 340k for 3 room BTO flat in ulu pandan

[@trentlim9964]

@@PrincessAmenRa Singapore also many homeless, just they are being shoo off the street. Sydney is as unaffordable as Ghimoh resale HDB . But those who cannot afford in sydney are free to move to another state. Singapore u're stuck in a slow boil. Yes stay for the chicken rice & convenience.. but its still a hot humid concrete jungle. Almost everyone is not used to another country other than their own. This is called lack of adaptability not that singapore is so great.

[@litcseow6725]

Having stayed in US for > 10 years and another 9 years in Shanghai. Every place has its own pros and cons. Eventually you are still a foreigner in a foreign land. There is no where like home in Singapore. And that is why I am back finally after spending > 20 years out of Singapore.

[@trentlim9964]

90% of people will always think their country is still the best. Just like many expats in singapore will return to USA & Europe and think like u, home sweet home. My eyes are wide open. I know there has to be a country better than SG. We're already denser than GAZA.. average housing cost more expensive than HK.. Working more hours than Japan. I dun think hawker food , efficiency & 30 mins to anywhere is a reason to stay in SG. Already u can see more and more mental cases. Maybe u're in retiree mode and having a great time.. but for the rest of us.. its not

[@outdoor75]

​@trentlim9964 there was a survey recently that Singaporeans were the unhappiest people in the work place. Doesn't sound like the work life balance in Singapore is very good. I think you are right he is in retirement mode.

[@litcseow6725]

I am not saying u have to stay in SG. Go outside and see for yourself. No point arguing here. Easy to argue using the keyboard. Go experience it. There is no such thing as a perfect place. Every place has its pros and cons. @@trentlim9964

[@litcseow6725]

I agree the work environment in SG is less ideal and pay is lower. When u are young, go outside SG and see for yourself. I did and I never regret doing that. In fact, I would encourage, don't stay in SG when you are young. Go out and see for yourself. @@outdoor75

[@Drippinonyou]

dont lie to us that working hours more than japan. In my company, the singaporeans leave earlier than the japanese. Japanese stay till 9-10pm everyday.working. Locals leave at most 6-7pm. My company is a japanese company located in Singapore.@@trentlim9964

[@Ra-mx4bo]

Very impressed by Nicholas' knowledge on what made Singapore ticks.

[@laszlopetergyarmati6279]

Really enjoyed this interview. Pleasant to hear a clear and conscious communicator. Sign of a strong mind and good thinking. Interesting perspectives.

[@derrickcsh]

Great interview giving 2 different aspect of staying aboard and coming back to Singapore. Nicholas bring up the good communication between the government and the citizen which I believe is really important. Misunderstanding in this relationship might lead to similar unrest growing around different parts of the world. The authentic aspect for leaders are really important to help the nation grow and prosper in the present and future.

[@cuclainne]

My husband's from Sweden and he's been here 18/19 years. When he goes back to Sweden, he feels strange like it's not his home. He said he feels like nothing's changed but he has.. so Singapore is home now.

[@christyhilton1919]

I agree with him, No countries is prefect. Choose country base on your lifestyle preference. World is our oyster. I've been all these 1st World countries, all have their challenges in this evolving world, SG is not spare. I have reservations on its ability to tackle even Aging and growing migration, climate change, so crowded, so expensive etc. Past 50 years not going to be the same next 50 years. So like him, I will need a back up plan for sure.

[@inumusha7108]

This man is so wise. I feel I learned a lot just by listening to him talk.

[@Princess_Pear]

A very eloquent and charismatic representative of Singapore. I fully agree with his assessment of being away from home to fully appreciate home, as is very clear from the comments here. Personally, what I think was such a great policy which LKY implemented in Singapore and which most Singaporeans benefit from, and which most foreigners are not clear about, is the building of our national conscious and what it truly means to be Singaporean. Growing up, Social Studies was always a giveaway class that you got full marks in and which was an easy A. We never thought about what it was really imparting - the meaning of multiculturalism, multiracial and harmonious society. We celebrate what makes us different, but also what brings us together at the end of the day. As an ethnic Chinese, I meet Chinese citizens who say "oh, you're Chinese". Yes, that's true, but I'm always Singaporean first, which is something I take great pride in, and something which has been embedded so deep in my person I take it for granted. We are all Singaporean first. It seems like such a simple or unimportant fact, but the lessons of the past few years really come home to roost when witnessing events such as the US storming of the Capitol, or other countries' response to the pandemic. Even observing how integration of immigrants into European/Western society and the backlash of Islamaphobia makes it so clear why LKY chose the path of nation building to incorporate identity building with tolerance and respect at its core. We had our own riots and disharmony, it's always around the corner if we are not careful... so when Mr. Fang speaks of trade-offs, as I grow older, the rationale for our path is so sharply focused. I hope our children will understand what it means to call ourselves Singaporean. That definition would evolve and constantly change if we do it right. But without understanding the importance and the relevance of being Singaporean, we can't tide over the next big issue that comes our way.

[@OrdinaryAviator]

Probably one of the most eloquent man I ever heard. His insights are not how to be best or perfect but how the imperfections can be a crucial transformative element.

[@kamariahabdrahim6963]

I agree with you.

[@luxury-Diver]

I have lived in Australia and still love the country, life style, the people, space, weather. It's a great place to raise kids

[@ColtraneTaylor]

Great place for the wealthy to raise kids.

[@noproblematallmate]

Singapore, on the contrary, is more democratic than USA. Our politicians don't fund raise from cooperations to buy votes during election. Anyone in SG can apply to be opposition to run in the election too. Just because the same party wins all the time doesn't mean it is a dictatorship or close to it. #sufferingfromsuccess

[@lauratanln]

This is why they still have a gun culture due to their gun lobby despite almost regular shootings in schools and everywhere.

[@rozyue1177]

The gun culture is unfathomable by the rest of the world …..

[@elliotoliver8679]

America is a toilet with the most corrupt running the country for their own enrichment. The education system is over run with Marxist lunatics

[@GIGTTK]

Nic bro, i can’t agree more; spent 7 years in London and feel more estranged with every passing year…

[@ahjotco906]

Nice and informative interview with a very smart guest. Cheers from the USA 🇺🇸

[@zeegydoo189]

Totally can relate as Malaysian after 7 years in US and 5 years in Australia. While Malaysia is not perfect and has problems, still call my home

[@daisuke910]

Odd. I always feel like the UK is my home. Maybe because I make a lot of friends here. And home is just not home anymore since my parent has already passed away when I was young. Always been an island of a person and makes connection wherever I go

[@FunkyChild718]

I'm Asian American from NYC and I am always confused why people say Singapore is boring. It has everything we have here in NYC without the riffraff, plus you are within a 3 hour flight to anywhere within Southeast Asia, which is where everyone in the world wants to go to for fun.

[@simkiankiong3599]

Nicolas was spot on about Singapore

[@oimei2627]

Singaporeans are lucky. For Malaysian non-Bumi even when we move home we are still treated as second class.

[@vieworama8188]

Another thing to note of late mr lky, he gave the citizens the confidence that he would sink with the ship, and that gave hope, a factor and feeling to much needed by the pioneers

[@sang-suangam9772]

also，i feel that LKY very admirable trait, was to be able to assemble a team of very intelligent, motivated and dedicated pioneers; who were all willing to sacrifice their personal careers in the private sectors, to help build Singapore!

[@juaramy8071]

@@sang-suangam9772 what career? they were all migrant coolies before.

[@etchvee]

Singapore is unique - Singaporeans are blessed to have a home like this

[@sallyyip2036]

There’s no place like HOME Singapore 🇸🇬

[@bigthings]

Currently in the US for close to 5 years now. SG is still best for most SGreans. What’s stopping me from coming back is a high-paying remote job which is few and far between in SG.

[@luxury-Diver]

What I dislike abt Singapore is the weather

[@SoonHengTan-wt9gi]

A good conversation full of excellent advice for those who are trying to migrate the west.

[@SteveIceT01]

Spot on! No matter you are born in the "west" or lived there for along time or almost your whole live, and specificly when you have a "colour" you will never be seen as one of them. On the outside you can get along, but somehow if they can choose between you and one of their "same colour", then it will be not you. Even if you are fully integrated. You may not recognize or feel it, but if one day you have sometime and lay down, then think about it. Maybe these westerners do not do it on purpose, but it's in the "dna". A blunt example, just look what happened last year, when people flee out of Ukraine. Listen what jounalist and Europeans said, we have to help them because they are blond and have blue eyes. They even welcome them in their own homes, did they ever do this with all others who had to flee their country because of war? Like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Africa, etc.

[@P53eud0nym05]

Even if same skin & eye colour, you try going to china & see if they consider you one of “their own” 😂 Which is expected. Kinda like how many S’poreans talk about not being “true blue S’porean” when referring to “new citizens”

[@stargazeronesixseven]

😊🙏 True , we Singaporeans are a bit spoilt , like if being stuck in transit for 45 minutes or more in public transport , they will begining to feel agitated like they're in a National Crisis or something! 😅🙏

[@Hermit-Crab]

This is home truly where I know I must be Where my dreams wait for me, where that river always flow This is home surely as my senses tell me This is where I won't be alone for this is where I know it's home

[@bumihijau5670]

Enjoyed this interview. Thanks

[@nasil9044]

@maxchernov Thank you for another great interview. Awesome stuff. Keep up the fabulous work!!!

[@MaxChernov]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@angielew8281]

The best interview you have with Nicholas Fang.. as compared with others you have interviewed.

[@zl8003]

On a light hearted note, I believe he stays in bukit timah/Holland area because I stay in the true west (boonlay) and no way I can get home in 30mins unless I take a cab at some ungodly hour and the driver is kind enough to drive really fast 😂

[@limliza992]

There are 2 sides of coins. Depends on what you want, Singapore is a best place to live if you are rich and at least the cost of living is not a concern. To some locals, overseas life is out of reach, no money or job overseas. Staying put is the only option even they have to continue working to foot the bills. Of course, not everyone is in the same situation, some work to pass time. Cost keep going up, high competition for good jobs and high academic expectations if you wish to get into top universities. The pros of live in western countries are that they have more balance lifestyles and broader scopes of interests despite being 2nd class citizens.

[@steventay5834]

limliza992 I agree with you!! Pressure cooker in Singapore.

[@frankmichaelchiara]

3 years is too short a time to feel assimilated in the UK or anywhere else, although I agree with most of his commentaries on Singapore governance. Having lived in the US for 35 years, his "assimilation" opinion or second class UK citizenry is based on his Singapore and limited UK experiences .... which are inadequate. Fang's opinion on Obama is point-on, and both he and Obama are observant, principled, and sincere ... qualities which make good leadership. They have and should continue serving their societies respectively, and their people would be better off because of them.

[@maxjek2374]

It was dreary living in a northern city in the UK. I was beaten up by a drunken local one night there.

[@tuppenceworth5485]

Many ethnic Chinese Singaporeans, like the Hong Kong protestors, have the impression that their former colonial masters would treat them differently from ethnic Chinese from other parts of the world if they settle in UK. Unless they have a tattoo on their foreheads proclaiming their origin, the natives cannot tell from visual appearance which part of the world they came from. Racism and discrimination were once rife in the UK. It was not uncommon to hear racial abuse in public. Following the rise of China, racism and discrimination have been tempered somewhat but these are just hidden beneath the surface. We saw that during the pandemic when an ethnic Chinese Singaporean student was attacked in the streets of London.

[@excitedaboutlearning1639]

I'm from a European country, and I'm part of the ethnic and linguistic majority. When I was a child there was quite a lot of discrimination in the school. Basically, it was whites vs. immigrants, but in the six years that we spent together, people started understanding each other and as a result, the ethnic divide disappeared. Many people, including myself for a long time, believe that racism is about slurs, but that's open racism/discrimination. The worst kind of discrimination is so subtle that you don't even "see" it. It's hidden in plain sight. It's assumptions about people's abilities based on a single interaction, their name or history of people of the same ethnic origin. I still catch myself assuming things from time to time. The second-class citizen feeling is such a real feeling. I have not felt it myself directly, but I heard stories about ot from my mom whose Dad had moved abroad to another European country in the 50's. He moved back, because his home country's labor situation changed and because he always felt like a second-class citizen. Different cultures mixing can bring about great things, but it sure is very difficult on the identity side of things.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

​@hieveryone2003blame the opposition allowing and probably encouraging their supporters to be xenophobic and racist. The opposition supporters even created their own racist slur "CECA". When u see this word, u will know that person is an opposition supporters.

[@jansg405]

​@Jack-hy2ki so if your daughter, girlfriend got raped and beaten you blame the opposition supporters lah😂

[@Drippinonyou]

ok dude cap.@hieveryone2003

[@arfriedman4577]

Im american. Id love to visit Singapore. I heard its very clean and safe.

[@keemarotichai]

treat the foreigners with more warmth. the land is not ours, we all share land with others living on earth with us.

[@dragonsen36]

After living in London over 20 years, I can understand and relate to him more then 100%. The situation had got worst since Brexit as the racism has gone up a lot !

[@juaramy8071]

sometimes I wonder at stupidity. there is no racism in china but you don't want your own culture.

[@nicholasgoh3526]

I think the problem is with the ‘communication’ from the people to the government- it is very restrictive, ignored, or simply treated as an echo chamber.

[@dac8939]

UK and more so London, is an amazing place if you have $$$$. Buying nice apartment in London as luxury base and enjoying all entertainment of the city, food, good high paid finance job over $300k and flying to Europe and East US for sun is perfect. Ideal location to fly. Problem is gap between rich and poor. Also a lot of crime from immigrant groups that have managed to get to UK etc

[@annasangjeomstore9427]

And muslim migran

[@Li-ty4ve]

Guess Nic is a well educated and intelligent and balanced in view. Very well presented views on Sg. Many things are optic opinions about Sg law makers and can be explained by relevant authority. Clarity explanation, like what Nic, said, is key to Trust. Kudos, Nic.

[@Time4Peace]

What role can SG play as a small nation? We can show that people of different ethnicity, culture, religion and background can coexist in peace and respect for each other, that we can achieve more together, and that differences will always be there but solvable by cool headed discussion than by hate and fear mongering. That should be a mission and pride inculcated into Singaporeans.

[@gelinrefira]

Probably a better idea to get out of a failing country and actually come back to a place with a future.

[@heavymetalrox268]

Well said, the Western empires are collapsing in real-time, but Singapore can get really boring, so I like to have one leg in both.

[@Lucas-wn5wm]

​​@@heavymetalrox268in SG is for you to grind grind grind and go holidays ( i dont hate this)

[@gelinrefira]

@@heavymetalrox268 Of course, we need to remain neutral and see how the world changes and act accordingly. I think 20 years down the road, western countries can be tourist attractions on how civilizations can regress due to its own hubris.

[@Unepic_Smurfman]

@@gelinrefira lets hope there is a 20 years so much wars so much tension world might just snap and singapore isnt safe from the side effects of war

[@henrylawson430]

@@gelinrefira sorry, but who is exhibiting hubris? You are! City states don't have a good track record of being around for a long time, as much as I love Singapore.

[@arieladelinechoo9845]

People, be realistic. If you stay there 10 years, you will be more comfortable there. 3 years are not enough to give your mind a strong attachment to a foreign land. Of course, being Singaporean, always complaint about others because Singapore is TOO efficient. I stay in Tokyo , Zurich, London for a long period of 2 years to 3....i enjoy the differences because the ppl are brought up differently...my interest is to know why and how they live in their country. And, of course you are a foreigner or an immigrant. Recognise that, and you can have more experience.

[@FKCao-ry7in]

It's like returning to ur own Home Sweet Home after a day's hard work, to where u belong. There's no perfect country in the world, but Singapore is safe, efficient, has good infrastructure of transport, etc, various types of cuisine within easy reach, etc... A place where all the daily needs can be easily met, where most of our friends n relatives are, n more... That's what matters. Coming back to Home Sweet Home indeed, the place u belong.

[@P53eud0nym05]

Tell that to anti PAP supporters who will give you equally as many reasons why SG sucks thanks to PAP 😂

[@juaramy8071]

why firget your relatives in china?

[@FKCao-ry7in]

Am of minority group, so nothing to do with being forgetful about... Chief Administration Officer (C A O) is a post held by a good helpful old boss who passed on last year...

[@wassup139]

The major downsides about Singapore is that it lacks nature and everything is curated and man-made, thus boring (do you realise that a lot of the attractions are “light shows” and things like that?); the stifling arts scene where you cannot express liberal and controversial views such as on LGBT (but these could be important for sociological discussions and improving the status quo!); the conservative government and unnecessary red tapes (remember the genius Singaporean boy who was denied a local university education due to being “too young” such that he has to study in an Australia university instead); the hypocrisy of our government in trying to maintain a “perfect” and “clean” image but is actually quite a mess within (remember the recent spate of scandals?); and stifling rules and policies that limit our experience of the fullness of life (ban of cats in HDB which luckily will be reversed soon, transgender discrimination by MOE on LGBT student). So is Singapore all that great after all? I would say it is efficient and clean and a great economy. But it is a stifling and repressive place that lacks unique character and thus boring.

[@Drippinonyou]

i think it has achieved its main objectives turning a 3rd world country to 1st world within a short period of time. Everything after that is a product of the policies that made singapore what it is today. I dont think you can complain about the lack of nature due to the limited land we have. Everything has to be integrated to fit into land which is 1/3 the size of johor. Also, You seem to forget that singaporeans/asias are not as progressive or adaptable to change in our beliefs and have always been conservative. We are not koreans who are very vocal with protest on the streets halting all major operations in their line of work. Singapore's efficiency in healthcare,business, housing takes priority over the other controversial issues that the government has yet to address. All you complain about are 1st world problems that either its due to insufficient space constraints and the vision of singapore was not to be an artsy city but rather a global investment hub.

[@wassup139]

That's why I made the point "I would say it is efficient and clean and a great economy. But it is a stifling and repressive place that lacks unique character and thus boring." I am not complaining, it IS a matter of fact that Singapore has all these downsides - lack of natural spaces, not a thriving cultural hub as compared to other cities like London, and lack of (more) freedom of speech - amongst its strength as a global investment hub. While living in the US, I overheard a foreigner saying he stayed 3 years in Singapore and it's good enough. He could not see himself living longer in Singapore and said that the country is a good place to work but not to live life in the long term. I guess Singapore is the place for someone looking for stability and a reliable system, but not for someone who wants to explore nature, immerse in culture, and generally lead more "varied" life (e.g., with four seasons, exploring different cities within a big country rather than exploring the same old malls we have in Singapore) @@Drippinonyou

[@Drippinonyou]

Perks of a bigger country- developed cultures,beautiful nature. Thats why malaysia has sense of more "freedom" and space to do more. If Singapore wants to be what you love. It will be similar to JEJU island in korea minus the natural landscapes, 4 seasons, less buildings. Making it a lousy tourist hotspot to relax and chill. i dont see it ever happening. Bali is another example. Bali has natural beaches, huge waves, spiritual culture. Singapore has nothing. its so much of everything cramped into one island. Thats why singaporeans love to drive to JB/Malacca/KL for relaxation and space.@@wassup139

[@Drippinonyou]

thats what you get when u cramp everything in a small island. Singapore cant be a JEJU island or Bali. We dont have natural environments and good sceneries,. You sound like you would be happier in a bigger country with more space to do more. You would be happier in malaysia tbh. But singaporeans travel alot in a year so its not too bad tbh. @@wassup139

[@davidludford2164]

I am from London,London is finished because of mass immigration,the prisons are full of immigrants and the kids of immigrants,I have been married to a Thai for 37 years,and I never forget I am a GUEST in Thailand,so I always act like guest in Thailand and the 154 countries that I have visited, if I could afford it I would live in Singapore tomorrow

[@tastyaffordabledelicious7391]

I mean, England shouldn’t have colonised and plunder those countries. It is now supporting US in doing the same thing. No one leaves their home unless they have to. Those people had to.

[@noeminoemi1350]

It's because England colonized and looted half of the countries in the world, outside of Europe. It's probably karma paying back.

[@Banayaga]

Fantastic interview!

[@EssentiallyAI]

In the transient ebb and flow of global migration, the canvas of individual experience paints a variegated picture. Just as artists have, through the ages, chosen their abodes - be it the bustling lanes of Paris or the serene landscapes of Arles - so too do modern souls in their quest for a place that resonates with their inner ethos. Singapore, a modern marvel, and London, a repository of historical grandeur, stand as two contrasting backdrops in this vast gallery of life. The choice between these two worlds is akin to a preference in art - is it the avant-garde that speaks to your spirit, or the timeless classicism? The rich cultural tapestry of London may allure those with a penchant for historical depth and diversity, much like a Renaissance masterpiece that reveals more with each viewing. Singapore, in contrast, is a contemporary installation, bold and efficient, yet perhaps glossing over the subtle complexities beneath its surface. Critics of place, much like critics of art, may point to the shadows beneath the luminescence, the unseen costs of a city's polished facade. In Singapore, some expatriates and natives alike might choose to overlook these lesser seen aspects, focusing instead on the vibrant strokes of progress and modernity. Ultimately, the narrative of preference is a deeply personal one, a subjective interpretation of what constitutes the foreground and background of one's life. What one might perceive as a vivid splash of opportunity, another might see as an overbearing stroke, disrupting the harmony of their scene. The discourse on the merits of any locale, therefore, remains an open gallery, where each viewer is both an observer and a participant in the evolving art of living.

[@michelleherdian]

If you were born and raised in a country where you are a part of the majority group (let us be realistic about the fact that any majority group of people in any country under any sort of political system will always have advantages over the minorities), and then you move to a new place and experience the taste of life as a minority who tends to have to take a backseat in most aspects of life (hence, the term "second-class citizen"), you definitely will miss your previously privileged life and for sure would want to go back. It is simple common sense, it is not rocket science, and it is not unique to Singapore or any particular country.

[@stephenlim2852]

My IT colleagues do not want to go back to the Philippines. I guess each country is different.

[@jjsamuelgunn1136]

Not a necessarily true general statement. Not if that person comes from a less developed third world country going to a more developed country. Then they would rather be a minority second class citizen having a better quality of life in a developed country than being part of the impoverished majority in a less developed economy. Singapore is different because certain Asian countries like Singapore, Japan, Korea have an equal if not better living standards as western nations. Then you would be right in that aspect.

[@noeminoemi1350]

@@stephenlim2852 that's only because of their work, I'm sure they are treated and feel like a second class citizen there in Singapore and would gladly come back to their home country if not for the wage difference.

[@EnidColeslaw]

Singaporean here. Thanks for adding this nuance, which I think most people would've missed.

[@commentatorxyz5514]

I lived in UK for 7 years. The big problem in the UK is they expect you to behave British, but when you behave so, they call you “that decent foreigner”. Thankfully I moved to Australia where you can display your birth country’s flag on your car/house.

[@Ra-mx4bo]

Uk is a boring & gloomy place. I've been to London once, not going there again.

[@henrylawson430]

As an Aussie I am glad you feel that way.

[@scottie934]

You seem to appreciate western cultures nonetheless, they must give you something you’re missing.

[@commentatorxyz5514]

@@scottie934 That's how the world is progressing. Westerners like Ringo Starr & Steve Jobs go to East and get something. We go to west and get something too.

[@commentatorxyz5514]

@@Ra-mx4bo London is boring? It depends on your experience. You haven't experienced their night-life, have you?

[@RoyFJ65]

I felt the same in NY even though I was fifteen when I went there as a student. After over thirty years, I have left NY for good and no regrets.

[@notification47]

bro, you cannot have the cake and eat it it at the same time... that is life.

[@foljs5858]

Yes, when you come to a country later in life, you're still an expat or foreigner in some sense. It's the difference between someone who was raised in that culture as a native, and someone who just came into it. The only exception is the US, where there's no national shared culture, except consumption, brands, pop culture, and a few holidays, so people mostly fit. And even there, in places with more native-ness you'd still be somewhat of a foreigner... you haven't been to the same school with anyone, played as kids with anyone, speak with the native accent as the rest, and so on

[@jaytso1883]

The big communication problem is when people don't listen to understand, but listen to reply.

[@Nick-pc9tf]

Don’t just take it at face value. He came back cause of the whole UK situation for the last few years. Three prime ministers, Brexit, power deficit, inflation, broken promises etc. Tell me which country doesn’t treat you like a foreigner when the country is being depressed and the locals are struggling?

[@davidtay9347]

Yeah,now the Brits r frustrated with the living conditions.Cant really expect too much especially facing foreigners who were seen as competitors to their ricebowl

[@zacharycohen9985]

wait till you read about the severely underfunded NHS (the free universal healthcare in the UK) is struggling for the past decade. even if you have money, there's nowhere in the UK you can go for immediate medical attention; take number and wait. also explains why he returns to Singapore where its a hybrid system

[@Nick-pc9tf]

@@zacharycohen9985 I know right? Aside from the massive spending during Covid. My best friend’s sister is a UK doctor. It’s horrid.

[@vernond3515]

Well I've lived in both London and Singapore and although he is right the MRT is better (than the underground in London) but London has freedom of expression which ultimately delivers more character.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

U said it as if sg does not have freedom of expression. We are free to express how we feel about anything. Except for race and religion.

[@davidtay9347]

Yes,they might had their priviledges but does that bring any of it in reality?The majorities of the Brits r suffering from some hefty inflation,housing crisis and other living issues.Does freedom of speech helps?

[@sktoh4469]

​@@Jack-hy2ki Not anything lah. It's dangerous to publicly criticise the PM or a cabinet minister. They will sue and win everytime, or you could get locked up by the secret polis for years and years.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

@sktoh4469 lol. Nope. U r wrong. We are definitely allowed to criticise and even scold our PM and all cabinet ministers. They are not gonna sue anyone who did that. Do u know there are opposition supporters Facebook groups and pages? Everyday they scold and criticise PM and ministers online. Even give them names. As long not defaming them, they will not sue anyone. No one has gotta arrested by ISD for criticizing and scold PM and ministers. So, don't spread fake information.

[@tongfattho6913]

Freedom of expression... a mirage and lie overblown by the Western democracy to hide the fact that all that happens in politics are not for the people but for the politicians themselves for their own interests.

[@newentertainmentorder5053]

Best part of Singapore is the airport, that tells you everything about the country.. 😂

[@holliswong8519]

Try Australia. Been here 18 years and felt like home on day 1

[@huathuat888]

Great interview

[@zuanjalikakamisgunnulfsen8995]

What a brilliant man!

[@ewansariasmara8215]

May in future you will do a lot more interviewing on celebrities activities. .

[@jiti5034]

All first generation migrants face this .. don't they.. even in Singapore? so what is the diff if Singaporean feels like a second class citizen in UK or Canada then to be fair can it be also said that a New Migrant to Singapore might feel the same? migration is a partnership both parties has to respect each other's contribution

[@leenathayil2039]

In Canada, the Caucasians are technically 2nd class citizen. The 1st class citizens are the indigenous people whom the Caucasians tried so hard to get rid of them. Read some history, please. The world has forgotten indigenous people in some of these so called 1st world class "western" countries!

[@JS-ev4xc]

Good to see Nicholas Fang, may be he should join back CNA, the golden boy then. 😊

[@juhantoon6524]

True. Especially for Asian who seek greener pasture in the West or rather countries formed majorly by the Whites is inevitably look upon as a second class or even third class citizen. Racism is real in that part of the world. Some may argue and bring out some success story of migrants making it good. But this are few as compare to the majority trying to make a decent living there. Many recent Hong Kong migrants who migrated to UK under the special arrangement will testify to it. But sad to say, they now lost their right to return to HK.

[@stanleyshyeoh]

All the best to Singapore.

[@MyMrGreedy]

Welcome back, yes I agree living in Europe mentality. If Singapore can do better with living Accommodation.

[@clairepettitt7563]

3 years in the UK is no more than a long extended holiday, you have barely settled. Do you really expect to be treated as a 1st class citizen in a foreign country? Singapore is home, indeed best to balek kampong my friend.

[@penglim224]

Give me good governance with safety and security, and law-abiding citizens who are peace-loving. Can anyone truly make informed decision without bias and self-interest?

[@Kilimanjaro5896]

Every thing is relative and everyone is different. It all depends on what you want in life. They is no one answer.

[@CMCJJT]

Stay, but be conscious about the tremendous stress, sacrifices and high price to pay for efficiency and safety.

[@vkohl3065]

If you’re a businessman, then Asia would be the best place to be in rather than the UK . There is no transparency as in the western countries . I have lived in Australia for 35 years and in the medical line, I have no problems being accepted by Australians firstly because I have never considered myself an expat or a second class citizen and has never being thought off as one . As much as I loved the country of my origin , I would never be able to live there as I would be an outsider with my western views . There are pros and cons of living overseas just as there would be in Singapore . You are a mouthpiece for the PAP and would likely be headed in that direction.

[@pjs20thetube]

Please you can literally open a bank account and start a company in the UK at the click of a button.

[@outdoor75]

The Asian tiger countries have great transport. I work 350km from where i live and i can get door to door in about 2 hours when i need to go to the office.

[@Time4Peace]

Yes, great point about better communication with Singaporeans. Singapore needs to make information more available for public discussion to avoid that Brexit scenario. The information should not be just packaged to show how good the Sg government is but available as they are for alternative interpretation to show how it could be improved.

[@therapistconsultant4287]

In Singapore, true Singaporeans are second class citizen whereas foreigners are first class. If you don't believe ask your true Sg friend

[@noona9369]

That's because of the Asian mentality 'thinking' foreigners are richer, smarter. Not true

[@szvqorwnpstahskypfwmp9821]

Even as an Asian American myself who was born and raised in Chicago, I always get treated and feel like a "foreigner" living in the U.S. wherever I go. I often get asked, "Where are you really from?" or "Your English is really good!!" "Where did you learn your English?" and much much more. Typical white European Americans do not see us Asians in the U.S. as"real Americans" I am afraid!! So wrong and unjust!!

[@iechuanlee9326]

The main & most important character of LKY is incorruptible. The US CIA tried that in the past but LKY was brave enough to stay away.

[@arfaharipin5743]

I am a returning Singaporean from the EU. And it’s true what he said

[@P53eud0nym05]

I think its pretty much DUH that you will never be treated like “one of our own” unless you are a true blue native of that country

[@scottsanett]

As someone who lived in HK for 7 years and left aftering getting a HK passport, I had to laugh when he said HK *used to be* a competitor.

[@DuDerize]

The wise only need to travel for holiday and know that they wouldn't want to live elsewhere. Others who are slower to understand this need to live overseas for a few years etc.

[@christopheryim6618]

Well said "Hong Kong USED to be a competitor" LOL

[@OrgKgTV]

But that chapper at 1:01 seems to show this is my hommy..am the godfathaamaa..

[@navanillera]

bro took a fair bit to say that other countries dont respect lawrence wong

[@zhangmw4931]

But in singapore, we make foreigners especially those from the west, feel they are a 1st class citizen staying here to contribute their talent for us and yet we are seen as 2nd class serving their needs. This mindset needs to change if we ever get to be respected.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

That's what u think. Maybe is your mindset needs to change. Your mindset will turn u into a xenophobic or racist.

[@MathewTip]

I have a nephew living in Australia, he decided to marry an Australian White so that his descendants will integrate & assimilate more easily. Singapore is Home Truly for me ..

[@lambo88]

Singaporeans tend to get "forced out" (migrate to use a nicer word) mainly because of one thing - everything is becoming too expensive and they can get more value elsewhere.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

Your comment shows that u have not lived in another country. Those who had lived in another country will know that Singapore is actually not expensive, and neither it is cheap.

[@lambo88]

@@Jack-hy2ki Lol, I did my degree in Sydney and have worked overseas in my banking career. You totally missed the point here. Yes SG is not expensive if you are content with a life on an average Joe - stay in HDB and eat at hawker regularly + take the public transport. For a higher standard of living, the 2 most expensive things in SG is still house and cars.

[@Jack-hy2ki]

@lambo88 if u think it's expensive then u r average joe. But u trying to spend like someone u ain't. Blame who? Blame the things too expensive? Don't act atas when u ain't. Then complain things are expensive.

[@lambo88]

@@Jack-hy2ki I live in my own landed property and am a supercar owner so definitely not the average joe. Just referring to the plight of an average Joe if you still can't comprehend. 🤣

[@8888ung]

Singaporean should be proud to live in their country. There is no point going to live in any western countries where Asian are always treated as colonialised people until recently they have to respect Chinese cux China has now becoming so powerful and wealthy.

[@nafridi1]

If I'm Singaporean I'll never think of even visiting UK, Singapore is way ahead in all fields

[@P53eud0nym05]

Grass is always greener 😂 Especially if one is a SPG 😂😂😂😂

[@Time4Peace]

Not advisable, my friend. Traveling and living overseas challenge your assumptions of things taken for granted, both good and bad.

[@feralhamster2429]

London has a lot of positive aspects that SG lacks and vice versa