Why Trees & Forests Vanished in England?

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@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
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@tim2024-df5fu
@tim2024-df5fu Ай бұрын
If you want an Oak forest start planting. Nobody is stopping you. That's how that one "miracle" forest grew up in France.
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 Ай бұрын
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@Dailymailnewz
@Dailymailnewz Ай бұрын
Is it any good for sheep to feed on gross where you are walking around?
@randyross5630
@randyross5630 Ай бұрын
Well you should have the Microbial Mats for Fields, Not Forests Anymore, because You Guys Cut Down Almost all the Trees, so their Microbial Mats they lived in Symbiosis with Died, and the Microbial Mats for Fields took over... I Grew Up right near some Pine Forests, they had taken over small Sections of Woods in-between Roads mostly after those Woods got Clear Cut enough Times, and the Pines Beat the Other Trees to the Punch there, probably also due to the Soil Type giving them an Extra Advantage. The Pines Will Shoot Up, and Blot Out the Sky to Slower Growing Plants, and Suffocate them from Sun, but that is not even their Best Trick, their Best Trick is Dropping all those Pine Needles till the Forest Floor is Inches Thick of Pine Needles, Acidic Pine Needles, To Acidic for anything else but Pines to Live There! Now Feild are Kind of the Same Way to some point, because their Microbial Mats might not be Acid, but is designed for Grass Not Trees... So if you are Trying to Rebuild Some Forests, make sure to bring some Dirt by from the nearest by forest of around the same soil type, or your Forest Won't Be as Good and Easy to Reestablish. Considering Forests maintain the Soil in Place better than Fields (I just literally just assume) You Guys Really Need some More Trees, it's Not like the Rest of the UK is like Wester Ross. Now back to the Pine Tree Forests, with inches deep of Kindling and or Pine Needles, those Go Up In Flames with One Lighting Strike, and their are Pines that Seeds need Fire to become Activated. Now this use to not be the same Problem as it is now, because there use to be less Pine Forests here over the Pond, but the Place has near been clear cut many times over in most places, like in NH the 1st of 3 Clear Cuts was only about 2/3rds, while the last was 90%, and everything Grew back with much tighter spacing than Old World Forests, thus making Re-establishing Old World Forest a Long Process, and the Pine Forests aren't Made of 120+ Foot Trees wider than your Car with Thick Bark that Can Withstand a Fire, Instead they All Burn in Wild Fires! And we basically Live in Destroyed Environments, But The Next Generations Don't Have Too, which would be fair easier across the pond than in the UK given your Present State. Now in the US if we Intentionally Logged the Forests and Selected the Best Younger Trees with good Diversity to Stay, and Took Out Everything Between with the Spacing of Old World Forests, and came back years later X amount of time to keep that spacing, those Trees would grow near the sizes they use too, and the Next Generation would be the Size they use to (A Tree needs the Protection of other Trees from the Wind to Grow Full Height, otherwise they will be like this Tree I logged once, Private Property in Massachusetts on top of a Hill, Lone Tree that someone thought was Cool 300 years ago and kept there, and all the Property Owners to Come did as well, with the History of the Tree past from Property Owner to Property Owner, and even to us taking it down. Now the Tree was not even 80 Feet Tall I think, because of the Wind being the Lone Tree on the Hill! But So Wide a Chainsaw with a 6 Foot Bar Couldn't Get near the middle, but the Middle Was Hollow, and Rotted, so you Didn't Need Too, luckily we were the Elite Crew that Did all the Crain Logging around Boston, so we took it down without Destroying anything, or anyone, and good thing other Companies gave all the Hard Jobs to us and referred us, because that thing did Fall, but Not Before it popped and Broke! And if it wasn't the Lone Tree on the Hill making it short and Hollow, it would of lived Hundreds of Years Longer, could of Reached 150 feet and been 10 Feet Wide! The Fact is, modern Humans don't even know what a Full Grown Tree is, and What a Real Old World Forest Looked Like, otherwise they'd know we live in a Destroyed Environment). But to Really Regrow an Old World Forest one would Need to Transplant allot of Dirt with allot of Microbes to help rebuild the Microbial Mat of an Old World Forest, but than... Given all the Trees, and Plants, get Connected to this Microbial Mat, the Forest Becomes Alive, and than Maybe We'd all be Dealing with Banshees, and Forest Spirits again, and that's How It Manifests, and I know that Sounds Out of Line, but if you Only Knew how Millions of Years of a Forest Growing into Basically One Symbiotic Being, and How Complex that is, as a Genius I could see a Multi Million Year Old Life Form like a True Old World Forest being able to Manifest itself, to be more Alive and Intelligent than we are... So be Careful What I Wish For... And Yes, I have given my Idea for Rebuilding Old World Forests Out, and How that Can be Profitable by Logging them To Achieve that out enough where it's an Idea that's a little Out there, and more to the People on Top, than us on the Bottom, but again, becareful what we Wish For... Regardless, the UK needs more Trees, and You Guys Completely Destroyed Your Environment... Outside of a Few Places like Wester Ross...
@egosumhomovespertilionem
@egosumhomovespertilionem Ай бұрын
Short answer: the Royal Navy. The Royal Navy in the age of sail consumed a remarkable amount of oak and other native hardwoods to build and maintain its fleet of up to 300 wooden warships. It is estimated that a single 100-gun, first-class ship of the line, such as HMS Victory, required as many as 6,000 full-grown oak trees to build. Many of those oak trees of suitable size were 200 to 400 years old, and could not be easily or quickly replaced, even with responsible forest management practices of the time. And apart from newly-constructed ships, existing ships required hundreds more trees for their proper maintenance every year. Moreover, the loss of that many old-growth oak trees contributed to major changes in the environment and soil conditions, creating less favorable environmental conditions for regrowth -- conditions that, in many instances, have repercussions still felt more than 150 years after the RN began its switch to iron and steel-hulled ships.
@gurkagurkadurka6688
@gurkagurkadurka6688 Ай бұрын
Well... that's the most depressing thing I have read today. BUT THE DAY IS STILL YOUNG!!!
@RW4X4X3006
@RW4X4X3006 Ай бұрын
My very first thought. Thank you!
@frozenokie4034
@frozenokie4034 Ай бұрын
And…. Many of those trees built ships that carried people and freight to build the US colonies. Which fundamentally changed the world. Without which, we might be reading this in German. But, thankfully we are not.
@Tony.795
@Tony.795 Ай бұрын
The same happened in the mediterranean with the portuguese ans spanish navies.
@santhoshkumar-vd7jo
@santhoshkumar-vd7jo Ай бұрын
They had an abundant supply of timber from Africa, India and Guyana.
@neilh9442
@neilh9442 Ай бұрын
Life is better with Trees. Thanks for the hike.
@davefield8100
@davefield8100 Ай бұрын
I live in central Pennsylvania in the Appalachian Mountains. There is little native forest in the Appalachians, and almost all has been denuded at some point. However, most of the mountain ridges have seen extensive reforestation, which is even evident in my 70 years here. The valleys are mostly agriculture land, but even there where the soils are poor for agriculture, thick forests have made a significant comeback. It seems odd that the same would not have happened in England. I enjoyed your walk video.
@felixtheswiss
@felixtheswiss Ай бұрын
You need forest patches to reseed the Land
@arielphf
@arielphf Ай бұрын
Also in central PA, I'm a forester here, one of the biggest differences between the denuded landscapes in Central Pennsylvania and those in England is that we have still got the microbiology in the soil that supports trees, meaning mycorrhizae the trees need to take up nutrients. England's forested landscape has been deforested about four times since the iron age, and when trees were planted back they weren't native trees, so at this point those vast heath lands don't have any thing in the way of a seed bank or the native microbiology to encourage tree growth. The tree biology in England has always fascinated me; they have a totally different way of looking at forests and managing them than we do here in the States. When I retire I hope to do a little bit of research on the subject in England, so maybe I can come up with a definitive answer.
@scottweisel3640
@scottweisel3640 Ай бұрын
I live in a town on the edge of the northern part of Bald Eagle Ridge. Even with the deer and regular mowing, my lawn would be quickly overtaken with oaks and maples if it wasn’t maintained. The trees on the mountain stare down like sentinels biding their time, just waiting to reoccupy the land.
@davefield8100
@davefield8100 Ай бұрын
I have a grazing farm in WV with some friends. The grazing alone is not enough to keep forest from encroaching the meadows so we have started mowing all the meadows once per year to prevent this. ​@scottweisel3640
@arielphf
@arielphf Ай бұрын
@@scottweisel3640 We're neighbors! I'm in Clinton county, at the edge of the Allegheny front. I will tell you that oak regeneration works way better in some places than in others. There's a road in my district that has great oak regen on one end of it and nothing on the other! I also note this has some correlation with deer numbers, but since there is no geographic limitation between the two ends of the road I couldn't tell you why the deer are only on one end! It works out okay, for me, because most of my compartments are on the end with the good regen! 😁
@stephenbarlow2493
@stephenbarlow2493 2 ай бұрын
As regards the woodland cover in the UK. I have studied this formally, and have been reading and studying it for over 40 years. The best work to read is the History of the Countryside, by Oliver Rackham, who single-handedly created the field of Historical Archaeology, was a leading academic, and who overturned all the falsehoods written by historians, about woodlands in England, and Britain. One of his primary sources was the Domesday Book, which was essentially an inventory of all the land in England, for tax purposes. Most woodland in England, was felled during the Neolithic period from just over 6,000 years ago, to about 4,500 years ago. The Neolithic, as the start of farming in Britain. When Stonehenge, started being built around 5,000 years ago, much of the original wildwood, had already been felled. So Google is wrong. Take the peat, laid down by blanket bog (most peat is formed from Sphagnum moss). Peat is laid down at a rate of approximately 1mm per year, so it takes around a 1,000 years to lay down 1m of peat. Bearing in mind that most peat on British moorland has been eroded and oxidized, by burning heather for grouse shooting from the mid-19th Century, so much of it has gone. There are only 3 native conifers to the UK, Scots Pine, Yew and Juniper. Scots Pine had largely become extinct in England, by about 5,000 years ago. There are myths about our woodland being cut down, to build our navy, houses. Old forestry practice, did not involve clear felling. All broad-leaved trees, will regrow from the stump, if cut down, being replaced my multiple stems. Plantation was unknown before 1600, most of it started later. Woodland prior to that was managed by coppicing on rotation, where the trees grew back, and standards, full trees within it. All of it naturally regenerated. Therefore, in England and Wales, all woodland which has existed continuous, since 1600, is classed as Ancient Woodland, as it would have been originally derived from the old wildwood.
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
This is great info thank you. I will try and track the book down and give it a read.
@GrahamFootBicycleLover
@GrahamFootBicycleLover 2 ай бұрын
Thanks @stephenbarlow2493
@stephenbarlow2493
@stephenbarlow2493 2 ай бұрын
@@messnersminutes - Just be aware that, it comes in 2 versions. A coffee table version with photos and simplified text, and the original version. The text dense version is very readable.
@carbonnieferrous2689
@carbonnieferrous2689 2 ай бұрын
Need to be wary of what is quoted as fact online, ( wikipedia etc). Need to go back to original sources. Thank you for your comprehensive comments and recommendations.
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 2 ай бұрын
Canadian wood was used to build many ships. In one of Tony walks shows, he meets up with a guy in Scotland replanting a valley to its natural state.
@gavinwhite9743
@gavinwhite9743 Ай бұрын
It’s stunning the Labour Party plan to invest 22bn in unicorn carbon capture factories, when a similar investment in oak trees could achieve the same.
@Lindsay-t2e
@Lindsay-t2e Ай бұрын
Darn good point Thx
@phann860
@phann860 Ай бұрын
I would like to agree but Oak trees take a long time to grow, politicians are interested in "quick" fixes, never mind the cost. Really is CO2 that serious when you take into account the other variables that affect climate.
@Boababa-fn3mr
@Boababa-fn3mr Ай бұрын
Perhaps they could do both, not that I believe in carbon capture.
@jonathancardy9941
@jonathancardy9941 Ай бұрын
@@phann860 trees grow pretty quickly. But the shooting lobby wouldn't want their grousemoors to be forested.
@hondaxl250k0
@hondaxl250k0 Ай бұрын
How about one volcano in one eruption produces more greenhouse gasses including co2 than the entire human race combined in over 100 years. Up to73 volcano erupts each year around the world.. do the math people.
@mickymillersson4376
@mickymillersson4376 2 ай бұрын
Speaking of trees. Here’s a tale, may be true, could be true. In the early/mid 20th century some of the roof timbers of an old school or college built in medieval times were in need of replacement. “Where”, the architect or some such person, pondered, “are we going to find the oak needed to do the job”. The college groundsman heard the discussion regarding trees and asked to be taken to a nearby woodland. On arrival, he showed the architect fellow a group of large oaks that were just right for the job. “How did you know about these?” Asked the architect. “Well” said the groundsman, “it’s in the building records book, when the college was built these oaks were planted because they knew one day in the future, the timbers in the roof might need replacing”. True or not, it does sound like things were done in the past..
@grahamwilliams5190
@grahamwilliams5190 Ай бұрын
A now deceased friend of mine, many years ago, told me the same story.
@1shot33rdparallel
@1shot33rdparallel Ай бұрын
Yes it's simply called planning ahead, and I often say I get that from my German heritage...my thoughts!
@permabroeelco8155
@permabroeelco8155 Ай бұрын
And did they plant the new oaks, that will be necessary in a few hundred years?
@tomr200199
@tomr200199 Ай бұрын
The far far more important dynamic to mention is that humans also removed large predator species like Wolves, Lynx and Bears. These animals kept grazing populations like deer down, but also moved them along, meaning that saplings could survive and woodland could be replenished. Without them deer and other smaller animal species could just sit in one area breeding and hoovering up the tasty saplings. Without chopping down a single tree, you could remove all the woodland in Great Britain, simply by allowing all saplings to be eaten. This could happen in just a few hundred years, as most trees would die within that time and there would be nothing to replace them. It's why all trees planted now need to be either fenced off, or have those silly protectors on them. The landscape you are in in the video would have been cleared by grazing animals, deer and sheep, without much of it being cut down and used by people.
@davebloggs
@davebloggs Ай бұрын
you are spot on.
@dfrntlvltc5095
@dfrntlvltc5095 Ай бұрын
Except theres loads of trees that survive deer without protectors​@@davebloggs
@davebloggs
@davebloggs Ай бұрын
@@dfrntlvltc5095 There are and i have planted thousands of them over the years , but keeping the deer at bay until they have grown a good height is a good idea.
@peterwynn4088
@peterwynn4088 Ай бұрын
I agree - would only add that the predators would also have replenished themselves from the continent until we were finally severed when Doggerland was inundated.
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 Ай бұрын
@@dfrntlvltc5095 But not seedlings.
@johnhumphries6751
@johnhumphries6751 Ай бұрын
Equally interesting is the question about why we continue to have no trees in many areas rather than just how we lost them. The info on your video about grouse moors and grouse drinking stations is one clue, and the sheep in the background are another. That area around Stanage Edge couldn't stay treeless by itself, the fenced off plantation area of your walk is a good illustration of what would happen on lots of open moorland if it was either not burnt back (which happens regularly to heather on managed grouse moors) or chewed back (which happens by farmers sheep). If it was truly wild and nobody was 'looking after the land' by continuing to suppress natural grown for their own commercial interests, it would very soon revert to woodland. It only stays desolate and treeless because it is 'managed' to be like that.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Ай бұрын
You told them the answer to the question of the video. If they stopped burning and took off the sheep trees and brush would come back without even planting them.
@locker1325
@locker1325 Ай бұрын
Wow. Great answer. So the answer is. We could do something but we don’t because forest land doesn’t make enough money. Crazy.
@gdreading9088
@gdreading9088 Ай бұрын
Just got back from touring France in the camper van. France has many many trees, forests, parks, sports grounds, campsites everywhere. We loved listened to all the owls at night.
@dictare
@dictare Ай бұрын
Here's something interesting. In the U.S states of Georgia and Florida the owls hoot in daylight. Coming from the north it amazed me to hear them while the sun was shining.
@phann860
@phann860 Ай бұрын
I don't remember which region of France was involved, but a chap managed to restore woodlands in only 50 or so years. I will be corrected but it may have been to encourage truffles.
@hobi1kenobi112
@hobi1kenobi112 Ай бұрын
France is geographically a lot bigger than England.
@geslinam9703
@geslinam9703 Ай бұрын
While I love trees, love the woods….the UK looks like the most romantic place in the world to me.
@taterbug70
@taterbug70 Ай бұрын
Anyplace without trees sucks.
@sbuckle1171
@sbuckle1171 Ай бұрын
No
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 Ай бұрын
Yes
@taterbug70
@taterbug70 Ай бұрын
@@RichterBelmont2235 Yes!! Thank you for countering the warped individual who hates trees.
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha Ай бұрын
Beautiful video, thank you, this is definitely a question I've asked. I drove across your beautiful country covering England, Scotland and Wales in 97 and was amazed by the vast open landscapes. It drizzled every day I was in Scotland and it suited the landscape perfectly. I feel quite sad watching British hiking videos due to the lack of trees and wildlife but it is still very picturesque. Raw nature and big distances between humans is always nourishing for the sole.
@redbeardsbirds3747
@redbeardsbirds3747 Ай бұрын
I will say as an American that those vast and treeless landscapes reminds me ( minus the cloudy weather) a lot of the high Great Plains of North America in states like Nebraska,Kansas and Eastern Wyoming…horizons for miles without seeing a tree in sight in some areas. I’d love to go back in time to see just how wild and untamed the English forests really were. 🌲🦌
@joannleichliter4308
@joannleichliter4308 Ай бұрын
Nebraska and Iowa have far more trees now, in farming areas, than the Great Plains had before the coming of the Europeans. The High Plains, though, are much as you describe them and are very beautiful in their way and rich in wildlife.
@americafirst2159
@americafirst2159 Ай бұрын
Not with Vikings running around lol..
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 Ай бұрын
I heard people were planting California redwood and sequoia trees in England and they were growing rather well. The foggy weather mimics the weather in the coastal NW of the U.S. redwoods grow so tall that they can’t rely just on capillary action to bring water up to the top of the tree, they need fog. Many parts of England would work well for this.
@rogerkenyon6209
@rogerkenyon6209 Ай бұрын
Indeed. The California sequoia is known in England as Wellingtonia. A lot of them were planted near country houses in the late 19th century. And yes, they grow well. Let's also remember that in the twentieth century, there was a lot of emphasis on producing meat in upland areas, as the act of 1947 stated. Sheep and cattle basically. Now because of flooding lower down the valleys, there is talk of replanting the uplands with trees, fast and slow growers combined, ideally, to act like a sponge to soak up water, and incidentally to absorb CO2. Seems like a sensible idea, but of course, those same uplands provided a living to sheep farmers, so they will suffer. I think it's time we realised that there are going to have to be major changes in our environment, and trying to preserve the status quo is simply not an option. As always, there will be winners and losers. But there's no doubt we need more trees, not just for CO2 absorption, but also to allow a recovery of our wildlife. That means a variety of trees, not spruce monoculture.
@rogerkenyon6209
@rogerkenyon6209 Ай бұрын
How do we embrace change, that is needed, when we want to preserve our own local environment ? It's not yet been answered, either by society or government. Yet it must happen.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Ай бұрын
​@@rogerkenyon6209in California, the only state in North America where sequoia grow they are dying off from drought and fire. We clear cut most all of them down a hundred fifty years ago and they are not growing back. This year another fire came and they put foil around the trunks of the last of the giants to save them.
@yuriklaver4639
@yuriklaver4639 Ай бұрын
It's the sheep. After the trees have been cut down, they eat the young sprouts.
@tarjeijensen7237
@tarjeijensen7237 Ай бұрын
That is correct. Other farm animals, particularly goats, also eat trees if they can.
@koloblicin
@koloblicin Ай бұрын
actually alot of our problems stem from animal agriculture, especially feeding those animals.
@yuriklaver4639
@yuriklaver4639 Ай бұрын
@@koloblicin Agriculture kept you alive. It's either trees of humans.
@koloblicin
@koloblicin Ай бұрын
@@yuriklaver4639 no. im talking about "animal agriculture" and inturn its necessery feed agriculture. We already grow enough calories for 10 times as many humans. So many deserts used to be not deserts until we humans came with our goats and sheeps and cows and pigs...
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Ай бұрын
​@@koloblicinif only the humans were plant eaters again. What a world we'd have.
@memyself8043
@memyself8043 Ай бұрын
It is the same for Ireland.... I do not understand, why there are not massive reforestation projects.
@stepchicken3238
@stepchicken3238 Ай бұрын
Perhaps the Catholic Church has enough money to help a project?
@RaphTowers
@RaphTowers Ай бұрын
In many regions, complete deforestation eliminated not only the trees but also the seeds and ecosystems necessary for forest regeneration. This includes the loss of soil microorganisms and animals that help disperse seeds, so sad!
@michelle-lz8tg
@michelle-lz8tg Ай бұрын
it's a problem in arid or semi arid regions...in wetter climates natural progression/succession will establish the forest. it is impossible to keep the pioneer species out as their seeds blow on the wind..they will stabilize the environment where animals such as birds will return and deposit the further successional seeds...eventually leading back to a woodland if it existed there before.
@steffimoreau6787
@steffimoreau6787 2 ай бұрын
I'm in love with England, but have been there only once. That's why I enjoy watching your videos so much! Feels like a tiny vacation.
@OldeJanner
@OldeJanner Ай бұрын
Come soon or there won't be much left to look at as we're being carpeted by housing estates to accommodate all the immigrants.
@xelthiavice4276
@xelthiavice4276 Ай бұрын
enjoy it while it lasts.... its becomeing islamo land now
@permabroeelco8155
@permabroeelco8155 Ай бұрын
@@xelthiavice4276 what has religion to do with natural woods? You have a strange focus. You could also say: wait a while cause England is rather racist now.
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 2 ай бұрын
We should start a re-treeing project. Just plant hardwood trees all over, especially oak. We need to get some tree specialists involved, so they can figure out the best delivery method. I don't know, maybe like a little cotton pouch with an oak sapling in it. You dig a small hole, put the pouch in, and hope it grows. You have 15k subscribers. If just 10% of us decide to plant 2 or 3 saplings on each of our days out, that would be thousands of trees every single year.
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
My sister has a small oak growing from an acorn from the major oak in Sherwood Forest. I’ll get her on the case. I agree we need more hardwood big trees like oak and ash.
@johnhumphries6751
@johnhumphries6751 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure you'd even need to do that much 'tree planting' to be honest, maybe a few critical starter trees but most successful hardwood species are favoured when the inaccessible scrub and weed growth gets to a certain height, supporting species which bury acorns and with many less sheep or deer around. It may take an extra fifty years but the right environment for those species to benefit from natural protection is probably a mixture of brambles and birch. Trying to go from open moorland to hardwood can miss out a fairly important step 🙂
@svendb7
@svendb7 Ай бұрын
I plant about 15-60 each year!
@octopusride2205
@octopusride2205 Ай бұрын
I put two saplings up mi bum ​@@svendb7
@geraldstone8396
@geraldstone8396 Ай бұрын
I'm sure it's illegal to plant trees in the UK.
@danielwood4590
@danielwood4590 Ай бұрын
I all of a sudden feel very privileged because I'm from nottingham and we have a good amount of deciduous woodland and quite a lot of evergreen and mixed woodland 😊 i love walking my dog in these areas👍
@WTHenry2023
@WTHenry2023 Ай бұрын
That's what happens when you have a powerful sheriff. 😂
@jamskinner
@jamskinner Ай бұрын
Send him some seeds.
@briancooper562
@briancooper562 2 ай бұрын
There is an event some 7000 years ago mentioned in which the Sahara desert formed in 200 years from green and pleasant lands and the north of Europe became very wet. A number of forests disappeared due to falling over in the wet ground. One example is Rannock Forest in Scotland now under a peat layer, found when the railway and the new 'A82' were built. A further event which submerged Doggerland 6000 years ago was the Norway trench tsunami which cleared all trees across the coasts of East England, North and East Scotland, all Scottish islands, and north Europe. These where not man made events. Then came man. And there is the always changing weather/climate and Iceland volcanoes.
@craigcooknf
@craigcooknf Ай бұрын
Wow. Thanks for sharing
@philparkinson462
@philparkinson462 2 ай бұрын
I was amazed to find that the entire Norfolk Broads are man made due to digging for peat in the medieval period and later. Quite astonishing really.
@TheRealBoroNut
@TheRealBoroNut Ай бұрын
Yes how foolish. If I was looking to dig up something combustible, the last place I would choose would be a pond.
@ccn6558
@ccn6558 Ай бұрын
Excellent information, sir. I love the woodland photography I see coming out of the UK. Had no idea of the loss of your trees. Thanks for taking the time to explain this.
@iwasapirateonce1639
@iwasapirateonce1639 2 ай бұрын
The reason native trees don't regenerate is mostly sheep (and deer). One sheep can demolish an entire grove of saplings for lunch. The only trees that survive are those on inaccessible cliffs. In other parts of europe with similar climate (northern spain) they mainly graze cattle which are much better for the upland environment. You simply can't have native trees and sheep, you can only have one.
@mattwright2964
@mattwright2964 2 ай бұрын
Not quite as straight forward as that although partly true yes. There are parts of the UK that haven't had sheep at any numbers for a long time now and have little regeneration. Other parts have naturally regenerated in clusters. Deer are an issue where there is no sheep but up to a point. This is a very nuanced issue with lots of variability. Cattle can be better at low density but in reality the cattle that would be used would be from adjacent farms where they are already draining land, ploughing it up and planting single species grass and then the cattle need a lot of further feed which is part of the intensification problem and destruction of habitat ( large areas of northumberland, yorkshire and other places have seen marginal land around moorlands thoughtlessly dug up. No trees are even hedges. At least sheep at low density are usually hardy and while damaging to trees have overall less impact. Lot of nuanced issues.
@andrewadams3894
@andrewadams3894 Ай бұрын
Even in the USA, deer overpopulation can prevent seedling success. Northern white cedar is declining because of too many browsing deer and not enough wolf, mountain lion and human predation.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Ай бұрын
That's baaaaad!
@PMaxJ
@PMaxJ Ай бұрын
Rotation of cattle grazing is key which some, but not enough, farms in the UK have started doing in an attempt to re-balance the damaging affects of farming and maintaining a healthy balance of wildlife. Regenerative farming is the way forward but the initial outlay means farmers yields will drop for a couple of years but have proven to be longer term successful with larger yields than the current modern system, later on. It's a win win. The UK government should be backing regenerative farming rather than ad-hoc environmental policy that results in only piecemeal improvements for wildlife.
@eslnoob191
@eslnoob191 Ай бұрын
@@mattwright2964 That just goes to show how difficult it is to regenerate a biome. Biomes are highly complex, with many different species of plant, fungi, and animals, etc, depending on each other. When you only have limited efforts to plant a few trees, not much progress will be made. There needs to be a much more comprehensive approach to restore the conditions that existed which allowed forests to proliferate in the first place. On an interesting sidenote, some scientists believe that the Taiga in Siberia (the largest forest on Earth by land area) is a biome that came about due to the impact of ancient humans who hunted the Woolly Mammoths and other large grazing animals to extinction. Once those large grazers were gone, the Siberian steppes were replaced with trees. So in the case of Britain, early peoples introduced grazers (sheep) which converted the land to grassland, and in the case of Siberia, they wiped out the grazers, which resulted in a forest springing up.
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 2 ай бұрын
I grew up literally in Sherwood Forest, I played endlessly there as a kid, building dens, putting up rope swings running around, riding my bmx, it was a brilliant and joyous place to grow up, despite living in a pit village which many wrongly assume was pretty harsh. I have an affinity with trees, I love the smell of forests, the smell of the earth there and the bracken, the noises just sound like home to me. I’ve been saying for years we need a national tree planting day, I’d more than happily bin the easter egg nonsense and have a day where we all give/plant trees. I love that saying - a wise man is a man that plants a tree knowing he’ll never sit under the shade of its branches - but whilst governments continue to let immigration spiral out of control and farmers are shafted being forced to sell off land to developers for house building or solar farms, all whilst our food security is at a worryingly low percentage, then the future for our natural environment looks very grim. I really feel sorry for future generations of Brits, our green and pleasant land will have been concreted over so someone can move from one place where there are enough houses, to a place were there aren’t enough - it’s very sad 😢
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in Ollerton a couple of miles down the road. Were you in Edwinstowe? Spent many a happy time in Sherwood Forest, exploring, making dens and swings. I need to do more of that 😍
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739
@twowheeledadventuresuk2739 2 ай бұрын
@@messnersminutes yes mate, lived on Ollerton Rd, went to Rufford Comp, joined the Army in 89 (16 yrs old) and only go back that way occasionally now to see family that still live in the village. I now live in Suffolk and I so miss a proper deciduous forest, lots of pine forests the other side of Bury St Edmunds but they aren't the same, they are pretty grim, underneath the canopy it's pretty dead - but they must be doing more good for the environment than even more houses or a field full of solar panels! Do ya know what nothing puts a bigger smile on my face than seeing kids playing in the woods, making dens running round and having fun. As far as I'm concerned everyone wins if we have more forest and trees, hell you can even grow them and build homes, but alas there just isn't the appetite generally to do something, seems we are doomed to get fatter, unhealthier and live on a baron soulless island with no nature and no trees
@barryrahn5957
@barryrahn5957 Ай бұрын
I live in the Great Lakes region here in the US, and we're entering the time of year when the cloud cover can sometimes last for two weeks. You need a cuppa to give you a lift when the weather is so dusich. Good video!
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography Ай бұрын
👍
@craigcooknf
@craigcooknf Ай бұрын
High from Newfoundland. It is getting close to the end of the month now, but so far in November we have only had 2 days with clear skies. Madness.
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Ай бұрын
​@@craigcooknf. 25 years ago it wasn't too uncommon in lower low Michigan for the sun to almost never show for 6 weeks or so in the winter. It's not new, every year is different. Now it has been more than 4 years without the temperature going below 0, but same for going to 100 in summer. Relatively mild temps but sometimes the clouds hide the sun.
@stevecrounse1789
@stevecrounse1789 Ай бұрын
Thank you for walking around your part of this rock. Very cool to see.
@vadusnisky
@vadusnisky Ай бұрын
I remember watching a documentary about the effect of volcanic activity in Iceland 3,500 years ago , namely Hekla 3 which erupted and covered much of Scotland, Ireland and upland Britain in a layer of ash which had the effect of altering the pH of the soil and caused a mass extinction of trees (Irish bog oak) and a mass exodus of people who fled south into England. This was the explanation of the massive deforestation of Britain alongside human activity, Also explains why there's so much pine in Scotland which is acid tolerant as opposed to broadleaf deciduous which is intolerant.
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 Ай бұрын
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@1834RestorationHouse
@1834RestorationHouse Ай бұрын
In America we have a saying, "The best time to plant a tree was 5 years ago."
@barneybiggles
@barneybiggles Ай бұрын
I’ve got over 300 trees in my garden.
@tonymurray814
@tonymurray814 Ай бұрын
How big is it??😳
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 Ай бұрын
American here; most of my family is from New England in the northeast. You may have heard that almost all of North America east of about the 90th meridian is "one big forest" (one old joke was that a squirrel could travel from Labrador to Florida or Nova Scotia to Minnesota by jumping through trees), and coming from my childhood home in California to visit relatives in the Northeast, the amount of woodland always stood out. I've only been to the UK once, and the relative lack of forests and openness of "Old England" was quite a surprise.
@tedtimmis8135
@tedtimmis8135 Ай бұрын
As a Michigander, England ‘s lack of trees has always been puzzling. Much of the US was deforested during the late 1800s through the early 1900s. However, most of these hardwood forests returned spontaneously without human intervention.
@lesseirgpapers9245
@lesseirgpapers9245 Ай бұрын
As a war monger nation they cut down all the trees for war ships. Then they love to bomb women and children.
@sw8741
@sw8741 Ай бұрын
A lot of that wood was shipped off to Europe since all their trees were gone.
@GremlinsAndGnomes
@GremlinsAndGnomes Ай бұрын
Interesting. My uncle's mom lives in rural Northern Minnesota. The "natural" forest is pine and much of it was clearcut by the early 20th century. It's predominently a variety aspen today as a result of a replanting program.
@annoyedok321
@annoyedok321 Ай бұрын
​@@sw8741American Chestnut was killed off due to a Chinese invader during this time. Billions of massive old growth trees gone.
@vtandyb
@vtandyb Ай бұрын
I had the same thought. I live in Vermont. Virtually the entire state was clearcut in the 19th century. It was only 25% wooded in the early 20th century. Today, it is over 75%. Trees tend to regrow if land isn't intentionally kept open. Why didn't they regrow in Britain?
@edg8535
@edg8535 Ай бұрын
Here in the states, the New England states were essentially clear cut by the early settlers. The trees were later allowed to grow back. If you check out West Virginia, it was essentially clear cut up to WWII. According to which site you are looking at, it is now the second or third state most covered with trees. Trees will grow back on their own if allowed.
@nigelgunn_W8IFF
@nigelgunn_W8IFF 2 ай бұрын
Keep the videos coming. You're my connection to the British countryside now I live in the States.
@SarahGreen523
@SarahGreen523 Ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing out and labeling that stand of trees. I would have missed it otherwise. That was a delightful walk, and a good cuppa to share! I wonder what else you get up to. Think I'll go watch a few of your videos and find out.
@albert2395
@albert2395 Ай бұрын
Southern England has a lot of trees! I have only been to the Peak District once, but as a Southerner I did find it Bleak. I think the reason most places up north don't have many trees is because partly through climate , but probably mostly through centuries of sheep and cattle grazing. Plus, tree felling for building and burning before coal started to be used. Lots of the Weald in southern England was cut down in the very early part of the industrial revolution, which I think really kicked off in the late medieval period, with the gunpowder and cannon making mills in the High Weald. Plus, other parts of the country too.
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays Ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video very much and I subscribed. Keep up the good work.
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Ай бұрын
The forest turned into the tall ships, And though they fought for England well The emptiness is ringing down the ages Like a hollow bell “Where are they now”, by Steeleye Span
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Ай бұрын
England needed charcoal. They didn't know how to use coal to smelt iron. They had to use charcoal. Sulfur in coal made rotten iron. The process of coking coal was developed fairly late. Those ships needed arms. Otherwise there'd be no fighting. So a lot of England's wood went into charcoal production. They just burned it as fuel.
@phann860
@phann860 Ай бұрын
I don't remember which region of France was involved, but a chap managed to restore woodlands in only 50 or so years. I will be corrected but it may have been to encourage truffles. Also could the Industrial revolution have saved trees, after all the main source of fuel was wood, so using coal may have saved the woodland remaining. It is important to remember that up until 14-15th century the population of England was only a few millions, now it is north of 60 million. Also wasn't there a EU subsidy which encouraged the cutting down of trees especially in the hill areas of Wales and other areas used for grazing sheep. Two consequences, increased run off rain water causing flooding downstream and the loss of topsoil so the land became even less capable of supporting trees.
@paulthompson4088
@paulthompson4088 2 ай бұрын
Hard woods are slow growing, resilient. Not just for ships . There's no investment in replanting the native species ( sure people are ) thinking far beyond and seeing the bigger picture. Pine is a tax dodge, with a quick return. Money talks. Wood is so varied in it's usage.
@andrewjohnston9115
@andrewjohnston9115 2 ай бұрын
Conifers are actually very good at storing water and are a real asset in managing flood risk, pine needles don't drop off in winter ... when it rains and floods, decidous trees drop their leaves in autumn and are very bad at holding water. Sometimes you need to understand cause and effect, not just hot air on'tinternet.
@PMaxJ
@PMaxJ Ай бұрын
@@andrewjohnston9115 Not so great for biodiversity though are they....
@hariowen3840
@hariowen3840 Ай бұрын
Numbered carved rock basins on Stanage Edge near Hathersage in the Derbyshire Peak District - made to supply water for the grouse on Hallam Moors.
@KarlKarsnark
@KarlKarsnark Ай бұрын
They do realize that once you kill a tree you have to plant another one to replace it, right? LOL! "You don't reap what you don't sow."
@munchiedrwatson
@munchiedrwatson Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tour. I find it amazing to see the nature and beauty of other countries. And the facrs you have made it better.
@munchiedrwatson
@munchiedrwatson Ай бұрын
Facts.... knowledge is wealth
@matsalm2943
@matsalm2943 2 ай бұрын
Sweden is today covered to 68% of forest.
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 Ай бұрын
And Sweden's population density is only 25/km², England's is 438/km², so >17x more dense. More people need more space, means less trees.
@cremebrulee4759
@cremebrulee4759 Ай бұрын
Thank you. I didn't know about this. I'm in the United States. One note; your title is not a question, so there should not be a question mark at the end.
@markcahoon2534
@markcahoon2534 2 ай бұрын
If its anything like Australia, I would say the Government probably had a lot to do with the trees disappearing, seeing England is/was in charge down here. To get a plot of land in Australia, back when it was first stolen, you had to "improve" your property, or risk losing your land. I don't know the details, whether you had to clear land or other improvements were valid. Seeing as a saw, axe, shovel, fire and a strong back was the cheapest way of "improving" the land, that's what they did.
@peterkiedron8949
@peterkiedron8949 Ай бұрын
The opposite is true. Lack of strong government is the cause. In Germany already in Middle Ages they were planting forests and there were laws against cutting trees down haphazardly.
@permabroeelco8155
@permabroeelco8155 Ай бұрын
They also thought the indigenous trees of Australia were ugly, and they brought some English trees to compensate.
@peterrobertson8141
@peterrobertson8141 2 ай бұрын
The rapid construction and expansion of railways in the late 19th and early 20th Century (and the massive need for wooden sleepers to fit the rails onto) would also have cut heavily into woodlands throughout the country. Nowadays railways use concrete sleepers, but the devastation cut across England by HS2 has to be seen from the air to be believed. And we call that progress! Another major user of timber was the mining industry. In earlier times (pre-hydraulics) pit props were (IIRC) normally softwood, but even in more modern times they used hardwood blocks as a base and cap to the (hydraulic) props. We used to make them in 4x4”, 5x5”, and 6x6” and about 18” long (100, 125 and 150mm x ~ 500mm) in the saw mill on a local ‘estate’ out of salvaged or ‘thinned out’ hardwood trees when I had a Saturday job as a ‘Woodman’ there way back in 1970.
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 2 ай бұрын
I have wondered for years why there is no effort to reforest parts of the UK. It is true that an oak planted today will not mature in our lifetime, but it would for our subsequent generations. As they say, the best time to plant a tree is last year. I live in eastern Tennessee in the USA. If I turn my back for two seconds, a tree sprouts in my yard! I have over 5 acres. Just under 2 is cleared for house and lawn with about 10 trees. The remainder is wild forest and completely covered with trees.
@dfrntlvltc5095
@dfrntlvltc5095 Ай бұрын
Humble brag 😂
@todosmentira336
@todosmentira336 Ай бұрын
Don't forget the UK is comparatively tiny - a little smaller than Texas but with over double the population density. There is very little wilderness, and land ownership goes back many centuries - rural land is dominated by sheep and cattle grazing - land costs are high and very few people have spare acres like yourself. In Scotland, where there is more unpopulated land, feral deer suppress forest growth and forests were cleared centuries ago. There are efforts to cull deer and replant native woodland in some pockets of protected land, such as national parks - but the scale and context of a small crowded island is so different from the continent of the USA. I would like to see a lot more native forest restored in the UK - however, it has to be said, I do enjoy some of our patchwork landscape ,where you always have an unobstructed view from the top of a hill but can then descend into pleasant valleys with streams, small coppices of woodland and pretty villages - the video shows typical Northern moorland, which dominates the high ground, but there are more gentle landscapes with more scattered trees in places like the West country, Cotswolds and the Welsh borders, coasts and valleys. Our temperate climate is very conducive to tree growth and it's possible some of the Redwoods planted by the Victorians will eventually equal or surpass those in America. Our countryside is full of beautiful mature oak, beech and ash trees, and trees like Cedar of Lebanon and chestnut thrive and grow beautifully in our parks.
@LMS-Creations
@LMS-Creations Ай бұрын
It is so sad to not see any trees for miles and miles. The flat, cold, and gloomy grey land is quite depressing to me. I am so blessed to live where the forests are thick with almost every kind of tree, and mostly pines in the Pacific Northwest with magestic mountains, fertlie valleys and wide open plains. God's country for sure. I am so thankful. I guess it's just what people are used to, but I don't think I could live there.
@se10er
@se10er Ай бұрын
They are managed as grouse shooting moors. The owners don’t want trees and the sheep and burning/cutting take out all the saplings. I’ve seen hundreds of birch trees intentionally burned by the game keepers where they had spread from an adjacent enclosed forest.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Ай бұрын
Yes they are clearing and burning off forests in North America to use them for sport hunting. They plant oats and rape and call them food plots. They call it prescribed burn. They often have gotten out of control and burned more than they bargain for.
@PMaxJ
@PMaxJ Ай бұрын
Shocking what the aristocracy has done and continues to do to this country and planet. Do they not learn from their mistakes? Do they not see beyond their fat bulge of greed? Shameful.
@TheMayoBlue
@TheMayoBlue Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the tour. Sitting at home in NJ, USA in the comfort of my chair, however I would certainly have joined you in that cup!
@bryanhill3041
@bryanhill3041 Ай бұрын
Obviously the people in your country don’t care! The longest journey starts with a first step! You start planting trees!!!!
@nancyvernon3017
@nancyvernon3017 Ай бұрын
Yep, what's interesting, is if you read some of the old Celtic Texts, they talk of "a wood", or "the wood" as opposed to "the woods". At first I thought it was a type-o, but it's not. "The Wood", is a reference to one (albeit very large) diameter tree. This large diameter tree, then became fossilized after the catastrophic events of the bronze age. According to a paper I read by DD Luckingbill, these very large trees were cut down at the beginning of the bronze age to create very large diameter canoes for island hopping and trade. Then, after the invention of the sail, they began building huge ships. What is left in their wake today are only the remnants of these magnificent trees in the form of tabletop mesas. Many castles and monasteries were then built on top. As a matter of fact at 3:47, behind your right arm, I can see fossilized wood laying on the ground. It looks like a fossilized wood plank.
@samhill3496
@samhill3496 2 ай бұрын
Fortunate to live in East Kentucky USA. We have three areas of old growth forest that have never been cut. Trees hundreds of years old several meters thick and very tall. The canopy is so thick o ly small vegetation grows under them. Lilly Cornett Woods is one only 15 miles from home. Vids on youtube and Google. Eastern KY University oversees the area. Interesting what was. Paul when did they start mining coal in your area. They had to have it to make the steel and for heat in the cities. The smaller towns and villages have blackened buildings from all the coal burn soot located along the TET thru your area.
@peoplesrecords2593
@peoplesrecords2593 Ай бұрын
Removing trees eventually changes the soil chemistry. I'm not an expert but repeated clearing of trees effects the mycorrhizal (mushroom) layer in soil. Trees depend on the soil to disperse nutrients and without the mycorrhizal layer, trees suffer or simply dont grow. I from the Pacific Northwest of the US where some old logging sites have something called stump meadows, where new trees will not grow due to the depletion of the mycorrhizal layer.
@GrahamFootBicycleLover
@GrahamFootBicycleLover 2 ай бұрын
one of the best videos you've done in ages Paul. We need trees!
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography Ай бұрын
👍🙂
@dphitch
@dphitch Ай бұрын
Nice video, I don't know how this found its way into my feed but I watched and enjoyed it. I live in the upstate of SC USA and trees grow like weeds here. If you clear a lot here and don't keep it mowed you will have saplings of all sorts popping up in no time.
@6panel300
@6panel300 2 ай бұрын
I'm in the south and we have millions of trees within a few miles. If you're on moorland you won't many find trees. Kielder forest has about 150 million trees alone. It all depends where you go.
@lewiswines3107
@lewiswines3107 2 ай бұрын
Not native trees tho
@6panel300
@6panel300 2 ай бұрын
@@lewiswines3107 Mainly native actually near to me. Kielder isn't though as it's a man made commercial forest.
@paulnicholson1906
@paulnicholson1906 Ай бұрын
There is a place near where you are called Chapel-en-le-frith which was established in Norman times. The name meant Chapel in the woods I think so the forest was there a thousand years ago. They have planted some trees on the way over to Sheffield when you go on the Snake Pass road. None of those were there 40 years ago. Looks weird though. In the US we have vast areas of forest and when you go walking in mountainous areas you can't really see anything for the trees. In England the views are spectacular even in areas that really aren't that hilly. In the US old photographs show much less wooded area as they had cleared it too but it has grown back and even in my lifetime the increase in growth is noticeable.
@ianwilson8759
@ianwilson8759 Ай бұрын
It's impossible for humans to have been responsible for the vast disappearance of trees from the UK or England in the Bronze age. This is for one simple reason - there were hardly any people in Britain. One low estimate is 20,000 people and an extreme high estimate is 100,000 people. Secondly, they didn't have the tools to cut down the enormous trees that were growing at that time. Lastly, you don't need vast land areas to feed 20,000 people, who were in any case mostly hunter gatherers because there was a vast native animal population and the rivers and littoral coastline were full of fish and other seafood. Why on earth would people choose the hard grind of agriculture when other sources of food were so plentiful? The south of England was always far more densely populated than the north or southwest. Why then are there such remaining dense woodlands and forests in the south, but this isn't so where the population was much less dense? Much of the wood, mainly oak, to build the Royal Navy's ships in the 17th to 19th centuries were sourced in Britain and Ireland, but this was only oak, just one species of tree. Oak was also sourced in the Baltics and Scandinavia as well as Russia and the America's. Mahogany and teak are tropical woods and would have been sourced from India and Burma.
@MrElliotc02
@MrElliotc02 Ай бұрын
They had fire.
@Liangzhuotang
@Liangzhuotang Ай бұрын
Let it buuuuuurn
@bartolopuglia1884
@bartolopuglia1884 Ай бұрын
Professor, the Norseman needed trees for ship building. The British also needed trees. Over 7000 oaks were needed to build one war ship. Easy simple math. Also, thy needed heat and warmth before coal. Again, easy simple math.
@scottyg7284
@scottyg7284 Ай бұрын
@@bartolopuglia1884Maths.
@bartolopuglia1884
@bartolopuglia1884 Ай бұрын
@@scottyg7284 this response is not debate, it is condescending. PhD number 2, please try again
@chuckkottke
@chuckkottke Ай бұрын
It looks like all of the soil washed off into the valley, if that's the case your landscape is a bit like the Greek islands, which used to be covered in trees in ancient times. I suppose one would have to dig up and put the soil back first, held in place with sticks and burlap or wattle. We cut all of our trees during the logging boom in the states, but fortunately with conservation measures the forests were either replanted or they regrew as there was either still good soil, or on the eroded sand, pines were planted. Once you get the soil back in place, hardy indigenous shrubs and trees, pioneer species with interspersed mature species where the location permits, should remedy the problem. I would happily provide you with our toughest oak and hazel nut trees, but that wouldn't be native to your land (even though the English oak and Scots pine are grown here, but just as specimen trees or Christmas trees). We developed an extensive reforestation program in the 30's here in the US in response to the denuded lands and the dust bowl, so government efforts can make a huge difference at scale for seed gathering centers and nurseries, plus replanting crews. Once your forests get growing, as long as the land is sustainably harvested, the forests keep naturally rejuvenating, and it's back to the normal 400 year forest cycles. Our oaks are finally dying out from age at forest maturity, I just cut down a red oak, roughly 30 inches in diameter, 10 feet of knot-free wood, though at 104 years of age, you have to have a long view for future generations, which I can see that you do. You must have some good seed producing hardwoods like the ones in the forest grove? Start a nursery! 🌱🌿
@johnmknox
@johnmknox Ай бұрын
The loss of predators like the lynx and wolf, which once preyed on deer, has left the UK with a serious overpopulation problem. Deer numbers are so high that periodic culls are necessary, yet these efforts barely make a difference. The deer devour young tree saplings, preventing forests from regenerating. Reintroducing the lynx or wolf would naturally control deer numbers, allowing saplings to grow into mature trees without being eaten. A similar issue exists with the invasive grey squirrel. These squirrels consume vast quantities of nuts and seeds, limiting forest regeneration. Restoring pine martens to areas with grey squirrels would provide a natural predator to control their numbers. This not only helps trees recover but also supports the survival of the native red squirrel, which is outcompeted by the grey.
@iancampbell6925
@iancampbell6925 Ай бұрын
Its easy to blame the deer and ignore millions of sheep
@rogerbrownreacts8528
@rogerbrownreacts8528 Ай бұрын
Where i live is Forest covered rolling hills in every direction.
@jakubpelikan2393
@jakubpelikan2393 2 ай бұрын
Why not replant reforest? All this baren landscape looks sad. In my country lot of forest were damaged by insects but now all those forests has been replanted and growing nicely.
@matthalfmatthew1
@matthalfmatthew1 Ай бұрын
It is not barren! Huge misconception.
@emil_rainbow
@emil_rainbow Ай бұрын
@@matthalfmatthew1 denuded?
@joehovanec1985
@joehovanec1985 Ай бұрын
I wonder why nobody seems to think of planting more trees. Seems like it would keep some people busy for years.
@hazel555
@hazel555 Ай бұрын
Much of the old growth pine forests here in Wisconsin (and eastward to New England, prior) were cut down for the English navy's needs of tall, straight, one-piece masts that needed replacing every 10 years or so.
@garphykeks
@garphykeks Ай бұрын
Great subject Paul... Very interesting🤔 The Inclosure Act of the early 17c meant that the 'common' ground that provided food (and particularly managed fuel for the community) was the start of clearance for sheep.
@johnstanton8499
@johnstanton8499 Ай бұрын
Also because we are an Island we were able to hunt down and remove the very last Wolves before the Europeans ; this allowed sheep and other grazing animals to keep the tree growth down and have a thriving wool industry .We could leave large flocks of sheep out overnight but the Continent had to bring them in overnight for protection
@robwhitehead9602
@robwhitehead9602 Ай бұрын
There is an oak tree in Newcastle Ontario with a plaque beside it and it had come from England and planted there at the time on Crown Land. On the plaque it said that it was planted there to save the royal oak from extinction. At that time the Ganaraska forest was being cut down and being floated over to England.
@paulmortal7611
@paulmortal7611 2 ай бұрын
The reason there’s no trees where you are is because the rich people like to shoot those birds that you can hear in the background. And those birds live almost exclusively on the heather you are walking around.
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 2 ай бұрын
And then it floods in the valleys below.
@JohnSmith-gb5vg
@JohnSmith-gb5vg Ай бұрын
That’s it, blame the rich… 🧐
@J.A.Madventures
@J.A.Madventures Ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-gb5vgwell those who take up the “hobby” of shooting wildlife for “fun” without questioning the flooding from lack of trees. Who lay their fees and buy their guns for their “sport” and drive up to the moors to do their bloodthirsty “sport” .
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 Ай бұрын
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@ZombieSexmachine
@ZombieSexmachine Ай бұрын
Pretty sure the poor Brits cutting trees down for building material, heating and cooking for a thousand years might have something to do with it.
@bugoutbrad8395
@bugoutbrad8395 2 ай бұрын
Very informative video Paul. Thanks for telling it. Like it is bro. Cheers 🍻
@Nastyswimmer
@Nastyswimmer 2 ай бұрын
There were no forests in England before 1066. "Forest" was a legal concept introduced by the Normans and meant land where hunting was reserved for the king - it had nothing to do with trees. Some forests were heavily wooded, some had a few areas of woodland but most of those in the north and west were moorland.
@paulcooper9187
@paulcooper9187 Ай бұрын
Much of the wood in the Peak District was consumed by mining operations, in particular the mining and smelting of lead and zinc. Wood was used extensively in those operations, in particular the smelting of the lead. Look at all of the bole hills in the peak, particularly the eastern side, where lead was processed and smelted , leaving vast tracks of pollution in the downwind direction, iron was also proceeds locally. A trip into one of the old underground workings, will often show where the wood has been used several hundred years ago to support mined material. The baulks of timber used are enormous.
@cedley1969
@cedley1969 Ай бұрын
Just sprinkle buddleia seeds while you are walking, they may be invasive but when they take hold nothing is going to stop them.
@inharmonywithearth9982
@inharmonywithearth9982 Ай бұрын
I don't buy into the invasive or native theory. If it grows there and thrives there it belongs there. They can't even define native, scientifically it has no timeline. Invasive seems to be everything that thrives on new habitat. Mother Nature is always right.
@billbrooks4574
@billbrooks4574 14 күн бұрын
Stupid invasive
@jessietreverton3191
@jessietreverton3191 Ай бұрын
The trees can't establish because of sheep and deer. Charity Trees for life have been fencing off areas in Scotland and trees quickly start to grow naturally. Our uplands are depressing wildlife deserts as a result of mismanagement of sheep and deer numbers.
@Sirharryflash82
@Sirharryflash82 Ай бұрын
Nonsense.
@cwhite1720
@cwhite1720 Ай бұрын
In late January here in the Sonora Desert zone my dad would plant Alepo, Japanese Black and Canary Island Pine and even Arizona Cypress trees from the holidays back in the seventies. They now range from dying to over 70 feet tall. The additional cost of still having the root ball and soil attached to them is an investment that grows only if you plant them.
@HostileButHonourable
@HostileButHonourable 2 ай бұрын
Ireland is similar. The majority of Ireland was old stand forest 600 +-years ago.Then the British Empire razed them to the ground for shipbuilding, fine furniture and construction. Today the amount the Island under forestation is in the low single figures. Only crap foreign softwood remains which is of no environmental value ,but is of significant harvest value for building.
@iwasapirateonce1639
@iwasapirateonce1639 2 ай бұрын
The British empire did not help things in that regard but most of Irelands woodland was lost before the British invasions. Woodland cover was down to below 20%. A big part of that was they replaced the primary grazing animals (cows) with sheep which are much more destructive. Most of Irelands regeneration efforts have failed due to invasive Sika deer. Does not help that most people hold trees and nature in contempt and will cut down mature native trees at any opportunity to gain a little more land for grazing or an extra 20 minutes of sunlight during the day.
@Foxtrottangoabc
@Foxtrottangoabc 2 ай бұрын
Ireland has made zero effort to improve wildlife and reforestation which is my understanding. As in the uk the farming industry lobbies are quite strong when it comes to govt
@DanOpdal
@DanOpdal 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful, interesting and relaxing video in 4K. Thank you for sharing. Cheers!
@OceansEleven-sd8wf
@OceansEleven-sd8wf Ай бұрын
Development is the real reason for no trees. But people in England don’t do anything about it.
@CartoType
@CartoType Ай бұрын
Tree coverage in England is very uneven. I was brought up in an area of Berkshire covered in woods and forests, and now I live in North Herefordshire close to large forested areas like the Mortimer Forest. The problem here is not the percentage of woodland but its nature. There is far too much plantation forest, and far too little native broadleaved woodland.
@RhiannonRaven
@RhiannonRaven Ай бұрын
I thought the moors were without trees because the elevation made jt too windy for tress to grow? Thats why hardy low dense bushy shrubs like gorse and heather like it up there?
@emil_rainbow
@emil_rainbow Ай бұрын
The treeline is 750m. Given seed source the moors would be blanketed in woodland.
@dangilmore9724
@dangilmore9724 Ай бұрын
Those holes in the rocks with radiating lines and numbers are survey marks for land track divisions. Each line should point to another stone or similar numbered marker. Similar schemes of markers were used here in the former American colonies in the northeast.
@CowboyPants-h5p
@CowboyPants-h5p Ай бұрын
As I watch this, I take glances out my windows and marvel at the 250-year-old northern red oaks that surround our home in rural Nova Scotia, while oak, maple and birch burn in my woodstove on this cold, rainy night....
@goldbug7127
@goldbug7127 Ай бұрын
The one answer that google doesn't give is , "I don't know." Investigate the amount and types of lumber required for a single Spanish Galleon or a British Ship of the Line. Why didn't the Spanish rebuild her Armada? Where did Spain get the lumber to build her vast navy that was destroyed in 1688? Oak trees take a very long time to grow. Deforestation is the largest contributor to species loss of both plants and animals and to the increased levels of carbon dioxide.
@permabroeelco8155
@permabroeelco8155 Ай бұрын
There was a big forest near Madrid.
@goldbug7127
@goldbug7127 Ай бұрын
@@permabroeelco8155 I suspect it was all a big forest, once, from Greece to Sherwood Forest. The flag of Lebanon is a cedar tree.
@MaeAustria-dl2ql
@MaeAustria-dl2ql Ай бұрын
Must replant in a fenced clusters of land. Plant mixed native trees and shrubs. Plants should be far from each other so that sunlight can penetrate grasses below the canopy.
@erfquake1
@erfquake1 Ай бұрын
I was taught (James Burke's "Connections" I think) that during the Industrial Revolution in England, installing railroad tracks consumed enormous amounts of timber because kreosote hadn't been invented yet & the ties needed replacing constantly. It had a multiplier effect: every existing line needed regular timber replacements, then every added line created another demand for future timber, and so on. It was a crisis. England was well on its way to running out of trees completely, and the railroad network subsequently.
@thanatophoric
@thanatophoric Ай бұрын
Answer begins at 2:20
@Useaname
@Useaname Ай бұрын
There's actually loads of trees compared to say, the 1950s. I have an old film of an area in northern England, circa 1954, that is desolate of trees, because they were cut down for firewood. You can't see one tree, only fields, houses and hills. Drive through it these days and you can't see any nearby features because of tree cover. Every view from every house is hidden by trees. The only respite is the winter when the leaves fall.
@nole8923
@nole8923 Ай бұрын
They’re growing giant sequoia trees in Britain now and doing quite well. There’s lots of stone there. Stone makes good facing for houses, chimneys, and other things. You could quarry the stone and once the stone is cleared out enough the land might become decent for agriculture. Even the smaller stones are marketable, especially in the United States where people use it for their gardens. There are a lot of vegetable crops that like cool damp weather. I’m American and nearly every bit of our land is put to use except for the deserts and government protected land. For any terrain that isn’t frozen or desert there is something productive that can grow there. If Britain can’t afford to invest in the land then a partnership can be made between foreign investors and entrepreneurs and the British government. The only excuse for that land to be barren is because it’s government protected land, but if it is government protected land you’d think they’d be planting native trees there or something. I’m seeing value in that land. I don’t know why Brits don’t.
@lucast3006
@lucast3006 Ай бұрын
I grew up in an area with massive coniferous forests and they certainly have their charm, but there is nothing more beautiful than spending time an old-growth hardwood forest.
@abbeyclock4650
@abbeyclock4650 Ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video, thank you. I was thinking how there were no trees, as the landscape there was sculpted by glaciers during the last ice age. I was also thinking, what a great relief it was in the 1700s to mine coal to heat homes, so as not to use wood, as cutting down trees was prohibited. Thanks again.
@BrianDoherty-e8s
@BrianDoherty-e8s Ай бұрын
I think it is those damned hooved locust, sheep, goats, and cattle, that keep forests from growing back. And you are right on, planting fast-growing alien trees is worse than planting nothing. Always favor you native plants on restoration projects.
@jonny-d5v
@jonny-d5v Ай бұрын
What is the interesting man made marker seen at about ~02:49? Are there numbers missing which preceded the "33"? I see an arrow. What is the excavated font in the rock? Good vid!
@Brit_Toolmaker
@Brit_Toolmaker Ай бұрын
I live near Eggesford forest in Devon that was the founding Forrest Commission plantation back in 1919 when the government finally decided to do something about it. As a result the area around here has many forsest plantations and walks. I also remember from my school days being taughtthat the etymology of the word "Field" is derived from the word "Feld" so there's an obvious link there.
@tonymurray814
@tonymurray814 Ай бұрын
Never heard that theory before. Thank you.
@SarahWRah
@SarahWRah Ай бұрын
AccessAmerica's to forests was a huge incentive for crossing the Atlantic. And tall trees were essential for building boats with tall sails.
@ingridheller8933
@ingridheller8933 Ай бұрын
I used to watch OUT TO THE COUNTRY show, which was my travel journey across Englush countryside. Charming homes for sale. Why? Most had hardly any tree on the property, yet wood fireplaces to heat the home. We are obligated to plant trees, replacing them.
@AaronCrudup
@AaronCrudup Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your adventure.
@josron6088
@josron6088 Ай бұрын
As a American I would notice this in any media based in or about England. Its very sobering to think that all the forests or most of them are gone.
@armisteadab
@armisteadab Ай бұрын
Literally talked with a friend about this yesterday. We could use a place like the Brecon Beacons in the US, love the views. But the desert kinda makes up for it.
@yoohoo909
@yoohoo909 Ай бұрын
A large aspect was also to supply the shipwrights making commerce ships and warships for the Royal Navy.
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