Why Trevor Ariza Nearly Went Latrell Sprewell on Coach Larry Brown

In Trevor Ariza's second year in the NBA, Larry Brown told him "never to shoot the ball" and that "he was raised wrong." Ariza would go on to play 18 years and develop into a premiere 3+D guy in the NBA. Brown was fired as the Knicks coach after one season.
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[@slimypickle19]

The irony is that Prime Arizas 3 & D style would've been the perfect fit for Browns 76ers & Pistons.

[@forgottenseasonsnba]

100%

[@kevv13]

Ariza had a prime ?

[@jalonmoore7407]

When he was helping Kobe Bryant win championships?

[@BurritoKingdom]

Not really. Brown hated 3s. 3&Ds didn't become a thing until Bruce Bowen and got really popular in the early 2010s. Tayshuan Prince was a good 3 point shooter but shot less than 2 3s per game under Brown.

[@Andre-ko7co]

Just remember back then it was more 2&D , they didn't fully utilise the 3pt line yet

[@alwayskul]

Larry Brown was great at turning around teams, but either the players got sick of him or he had an eye for his next job before the turnaround was complete. More of these stories need to come out. He did similar shit with Jalen Rose giving him all those DNPs. Rose flourished under Larry Bird.

[@BurritoKingdom]

Pretty much. The Pistons got tired of his shit after only 2 years even though they went to the finals twice. There's only so much shit someone can take no matter how successful the outcome is.

[@TronicAllah]

Jalen called him "next town Brown" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@eboooo]

Man he was cruel to Jalen

[@lilbru]

​@@BurritoKingdomsays a lot about him in his finest coaching that he was dismissed. He was meant strictly to be a college coach...

[@LedgerLiner]

Jew gonna do what jew does

[@ifheavenwashuman]

It's unbelievable how narcissistic some of these COACHES are/were.

[@chrislewis5069]

Hmm I was just thinking that about the players. Don't let these guys fool you, they're getting paid millions of dollars, they can handle having their character challenged. It used to be that guys wanted to be good guys and honestly sell out for the team and then coaches got softer and the tough ones were complained about and basically players strike against them like a labor dispute. Coaches don't even get 2 years sometimes to turn a team around. If they don't make progress right away, they're done. It used to be a more father son relationship and they guided their players. Now players don't want that, it's more like a therapist that suggests things and doesn't tell you anything that's a hard fact

[@ifheavenwashuman]

@@chrislewis5069 Wait, so it's fine for a coach to tell a player he wasn't raised properly? There's almost nothing more disrespectful you could say to someone you only know in a WORK environment. Keep in mind that these are grown men. & Keep in mind this is a coach that PUBLICLY had personal issues with players at nearly every stop.

[@dezz26]

You have to think it's 10 times at the pro level, I played in High school and College and all of my past coaches use to talk crazy. Imagine a millionaire coach going back and forth with millionaire players

[@pearsonw3]

Naw, its not unbelievable. These coaches really believe their system is better than talent 😂😂😂

[@Mark-fr7yv]

@@dezz26 Nah it's worse at the amateur level. You're not getting paid and these coaches act like they own you. I had a coach give me a long sitdown about how I needed to push through an injury and gain some respect around here. If I had the quick sense at the time I would have asked him to pay for the medical bills on the spot since I was 18 and not getting paid. At least these guys are actually employed.

[@benjaminvazquez6413]

crazy how many "hall of fame coach" guys truly sucked at player development. how good could some players could have been if not for the out of control egos and agendas of some of these coaches

[@forgottenseasonsnba]

Assistant coaches and the true glue

[@lilbru]

​@@forgottenseasonsnbaword to tex winters

[@81garbur]

It was just tough for some older coaches to adapt to the new NBA and the new player. He was just doing what worked 20 years ago.

[@jonathandonnelly6915]

@@81garburyou mean these old coaches don’t like not being able to abuse the power they wield. Which one is actually immature???

[@barrywilliamsjr5390]

As a long time Sixers fan, I'll never forget the fact that in the 1998 draft Larry Brown selected Larry Hughes with the 6th pick in the NBA draft when both Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce were still on the board. The Sixers GM at the time. Billy King said he wanted to draft Dirk but coach Brown who was the President of Basketball Operations had an issue with Dirk being from Europe and maybe he thought he wouldn't be that good, who knows. But as we all know, both Dirk and Paul wound up having Hall of Fame careers and Larry Hughes was a good role player. It wasn't the first time the Sixers screwed up the draft and unfortunately it wouldn't be the last time.

[@bronsonbamnallen1633]

not taking Paul Pierce made no sense.

[@pipohemm8726]

Basically killed Milicic at Detroit. Dude had talent but 2 years with Brown for a 18 year old from europe is toxic as hell

[@FollowingBlaze]

True, plus you’re playing behind Ben Wallace, Rasheed, and a young developing Memet Okur . Larry brown didn’t even play rookie LeBron and Carmelo much for team USA lol

[@KingThomas150]

Larry brown and rookies/young players don’t mix.

[@andrew348]

Using Milicic as ammo is hilarious 😂 the dude was never going to make it no matter what

[@Mark-fr7yv]

@@andrew348 I don't think his offensive game was that good. However he could pass and defend. I remember seeing him in the preseason with the Knicks and liking some things I saw but Dantoni said he didn't work hard and didn't care and I don't think he ever got in a game during the season. Also Dantoni doesn't care about defense so it didn't matter that none of the bigs on the team played it.

[@jgallagher1359]

​@@Mark-fr7yv "Play defense hard and pass the ball you morons" ...yup he was stuck in his ways and his teams went way over their talent level everywhere he went.

[@billbangz]

Larry Brown was a decent coach as far as getting players to buy in, but his narcissistic ego & stuck in that old school my way or the highway mentality ruined his credibility & coaching legacy. The man literally refused to get his star players the help they needed to win a chip because he wanted all the credit...

[@jgallagher1359]

no one else won where he would go.

[@Devere316]

That Knick team had major hitters on there and blossom in other places afterward and became legendary. Larry really fumble the ball on that one, I'm sorry 😂😂

[@jonathanariasmog]

That smoke alarm in the background is crazy

[@Damari90]

Better living/ it is what it is

[@Ramontf3]

​@@Damari90wtf

[@twenty20inc]

Yeah, I noticed that… It made me say “Hmmm…. Larry Brown might’ve been right” 😂

[@jtlewis5879]

I don’t know how people don’t notice it! And he’ll be tall enough to swap it out 😂

[@Liface]

Black people are not taught what the beep is culturally ​@@jtlewis5879

[@DaLumpy1]

You were RAISED wrong?!?! You don't basically attack people's parents dog

[@eboooo]

Yo you don't say that to people. And it's weird because he's not a selfish player dog

[@jgallagher1359]

he clearly was raised wrong. Brown took a risk telling him but it was for his own good.

[@williestyle35]

​@@jgallagher1359 Trevor worked to fit every team system he played in. Larry Brown could not coach the UCLA offense or the triangle to save his life. I have no idea how he got into the Basketball HoF...

[@jgallagher1359]

@@williestyle35 again: must be joking. Ariza was a horrible college player. And horrible NBA player until forced into a rigid and disciplined role...the role Brown suggested. Even now listen to how off Trveor is in his analysis. Coach Brown always took loser teams, programs, and olayers and WON championships even deez

[@DJRhude]

I was mad when the Knicks traded Ariza, he just needed time to develop but ask any Knicks fan, we all saw he had potential. But getting away from the Knicks turned out to be the best thing that happened for him career wise.

[@ronniebobbyedition993]

I never cared for HOF coach Brown. I'm surprised that he won with Detroit. As a Knicks fan, he gave the Knicks one series due to his poor coaching with Indiana. And he was flat out terrible as the coach of the Knicks.

[@chrisjacobs9101]

It’s cause he was with a group of men who showed up to work and bought in ariza was a kid and didn’t get that

[@ronniebobbyedition993]

@@chrisjacobs9101 Are you applauding Larry Brown's job as a coach with the New York Knicks? They were terrible.

[@lizethwalker]

Malone injured

[@jgallagher1359]

@@chrisjacobs9101 no shit. How about "Nobody plays defense hard in the NBA" and "he gave me a good critique so I considered assaulting him" Brown won everywhere and made everyone smarter and better who paid attention.

[@williestyle35]

​@@jgallagher1359 Coach Brown nearly destroyed half the collage programs that hired him. And his NBA record is pretty sub par. Plus that is not how you treat other people - tell Trevor to come meet me tomorrow - when on the same elevator, is just unnecessary rigid hierarchical bs.

[@haiasieel6099]

Larry Clown was actively SABOTAGING the Knicks at the time. He wasn't looking to win, he was playing guys like a PAL league team. Starting guys in thier hometowns, even if they SUCKED. He could have had a PJ Carlisimo fate in NY. Im glad the players are finally speaking on him.

[@dinbo7878]

That season doesn’t get talked about enough, it was just absurd! He wasn’t even trying to win. He forced them to trade Ariza for a washed Steve Francis

[@AS-fz5dp]

Trev is the homie fr. Down to earth awesome dude.

[@MrBmick79]

I wanna hear what Jelani had to say about his LB experience. I'm all hear for the Larry Brown slander. For a couple of Dean Smith disciples, George Karl and Larry Brown somehow forgot how to treat men with dignity and respect. Honestly, somebody should've prolly put hands on both of them

[@jgallagher1359]

Those guys are great coaches dealing with undisciplined idiots. If you want gossip from 80 IQ morons who think like women have at it.

[@williestyle35]

They both seemed to not want to work with Carmelo Anthony, and had mad disrespect for LBJ ... Old, ego driven, dated, and thought they were above the players... Larry Brown was given far too many chances in the NBA, and nearly destroyed half the collage programs that hired him ..

[@jgallagher1359]

@@williestyle35 Anthony stunk outside of as a 4th wheel on Tram USA.Total b all stopper. Brown had way more success than him.

[@williestyle35]

@@jgallagher1359 lol, and Larry Brown was handed a potential Championship team in Philadelphia and underperformed. Brown also could have won more in Detroit but they couldn't stand having him around. As I said Larry Brown nearly destroyed every college program that hired him, check out his recent stint at SMU. Meanwhile Carmelo had a legit Championship level two for two seasons, the rest of the time they barely had a team around him in Denver.

[@jgallagher1359]

@@williestyle35 What are you even talking about?You're just making things up. Read Larry Brown's wiki at least to know some basics. The guy turned around everywhere he went and is the only coach ever with an NBA and NCAA championship.

[@LionPelt]

Those coaches that opted to degrade young men, under the guise of “forging them in fire”, were cowards. They treated people poorly, because they were in a position of power. Knight, Brown, Karl etc., they were dick heads because they didn’t have to be held accountable for their behavior.

[@jgallagher1359]

Ariza was and is an idiot and also...dangerous. Brown should win a medal of honor for dealing with people like that.

[@vindigga6]

I always knew trevor was gonna be a good player if he got mentored. He went to the lakers and was mentored by kobe and probably had his best seasons imo. The knicks just had no idea how to develope him.

[@williestyle35]

Because Brown hardly ever played or cared about having young players when he was an NBA coach. Makes you wonder what he did as a collage coach... other than nearly destroy half the NCAA teams he coached...

[@gamefantasticcuz]

Makes you think, did he tell people in Philly not to shoot which made Iverson go all out?

[@andrew348]

Did you ever see Tyrone Hill shoot the ball? That thing always looked like a migrating duck getting shot out of the sky mid flight. Some had to tell him not to shoot

[@chrisrobinson8339]

It would have been nice to have been able to keep him on my Lakers after he helped us get a ring 💍. Shout-out to Trevor.

[@ddenzel94]

Please!!!! Talk about the 07 bulls team that swept the defending champion heat. That was my rival as a kid.

[@eprince1388]

We go through this on the job no matter what we do.

[@bronsonbamnallen1633]

There is a reason Larry Brown coached 30 different teams. His “play the right way” style was usually the wrong way.

[@TheSpinnerRack]

He said something similar to Chauncey Billups

[@yngassa]

Imagine what Allen Iverson had to endure on a weekly basis when he was at Philly 🤦🏾‍♂️ And yet they kept saying AI was the problem.

[@jgallagher1359]

Brown coaching was by far the best Iverson ever did

[@sunyuewave]

for the people who are saying Melo will win a lot of titles with the Pistons if they drafted him instead of Darko here you go, listen to this: 4:19 - Larry Brown really wasn't like a younger player type coach Hence if Melo were drafted by the Pistons in that '03 draft, he'll likely warm the bench the first couple of seasons of his rookie deal. Then probably after that 2nd year, he'll likely ask for a trade seeing how sensitive he is.

[@williestyle35]

As we saw in the Olympics he coached - he could not stand just the idea of playing Carmelo with LBJ or D Wade for more than a minute...

[@Ldrumz89]

If I'm not mistaken, I think Larry Brown called him "Delusional" in the media.

[@dinbo7878]

Larry Brown was such a scumbag that season, he wasn’t even trying to win. Did the Knicks dirty !

[@ramaladingdong4998]

Ask AI what the type of man larry is… legend

[@DONTOURAGETV]

He used to always be in the lower east side when he played for the Knicks

[@Progressive.G]

Dude looks weird with dreads 😂🇯🇲

[@ebonyknight5]

Nowadays the players will muck these old aholes up. I love today’s new day!!!🥊🥊🥊🥊

[@TheHomeman]

Brown to me was a bum coach who had to find a person on his team to pick on. He villianized ppl in order to have an excuse for his lack of coaching. The pistons were going to win the championship anyway and the the 76ers had Iverson and the Pacers already had a team when he got there. He tried to make miller the villain too. Sounds like coach was trying to get him to react so coach would get some sympathy

[@williestyle35]

Brown was a garbage head coach. Tho, Reggie Miller loved being the "villain", but it was young Jalen Rose that Brown tried destroying - just like he nearly destroyed half of the college basketball programs that hired him...

[@LoyalOpposition]

LB was such a headache in Detroit, saying his dream job was to coach the Knicks. He hated white guys. Seriously.

[@ericzoo6342]

Coach Brown has always been a Napoleon. Since the Danny Manning era, he's been out of pocket...never should have been in the NBA.

[@GoofyFootersRule]

Thank you Trevor. god hasn't made a person that can talk to me that wayyyy, and I have a pro status handle....I could never pimp it out for $$$ w some goooooofy ol white ppl telling me anything. only my pop and uncle ron can talk to me that way.....and bless them both they passed on.

[@andrem.thomas332]

Ariza honestly had no business shooting the ball in his second year. Dude had one decent season shooting the basketball, ya'll tripping. This dude shot 42 percent from the field for his career.

[@reesematic3]

Bruh stop it he had to learn how to shoot..

[@casiemny1219]

@@reesematic3exactly

[@chrisjacobs9101]

@@reesematic3learn in practice

[@andrem.thomas332]

@@chrisjacobs9101 Exactly.

[@socialistbatman1211]

Do you watch basketball or do you just like to look at stats

[@HewittShaq]

Coaching is like parenting. You're not your players friends.

[@reesematic3]

He is overrated...

[@aaronward4162]

Don’t disrespect grown men period

[@HewittShaq]

@@aaronward4162 sensitive people always feel disrespected

[@aaronward4162]

@@HewittShaq Im raised by men and raised to give respect and don’t let no one disrespect me call it what you want I call your view soft some on yes master shit

[@HewittShaq]

@@aaronward4162 nah, but there are authority figures. They don't always have to go about things the right way, but you gotta respect it. God works in mysterious ways.

[@jag61688]

jesus give me whatever Jelani is puffin

[@ericwright2594]

larry brown is 1 of the top 5 worst coaches in nba history

[@floridasportsworld]

How is that when He has a championship Ring? And has been to the NBA finals 3 Times?

[@jamesball5743]

LB is a champion and Hall of Famer who you?

[@DaYungSinChrg]

Larry Brown was a burger coach. Wild overrated

[@ericstratton7961]

Nah he was great coach. He was just stubborn as hell and a asshole lol

[@rell4219]

@@ericstratton7961those two qualities alone make him a bad coach 😂 Look at what he did with the 2004 Olympic team (most talented team in the world that year)

[@m.davinci9285]

LARRY BROWN IS THE WORST COACH FOR A YOUNG PLAYER SMFH .....IM SO GLAD MELO DIDNT PLAY FOR HIM IN THE DETROIT

[@jamesball5743]

Ariza’s nickname was Garbage Time

[@jayg6222]

Why would your initial reaction/feelings are to want to jump across the table and choke your coach out?? You’re a grown man!!

[@frequentiis]

so, ariza is human, and you're a robot, ok, gotchu

[@DC4L1991]

When an old white dude looks at you and tells you “you wasn’t raised right” is a slap in the face to your whole bloodline that helped get you to the NBA…🤷🏾‍♂️

[@samarthbhatnagar347]

No corporate boss would survive that bullshit and it is out of line and stupid. I don't like your game so you are not raised right, it is just privilege of I can get away.

[@bighou2359]

With all these negative stories of Larry Brown, they never should've given Larry Brown money.

[@j-short5431]

Ariza was a mediocre “3 and D” guy, who should only get credit for finessing teams the last five of their years of his career and making them think he can actually contribute to winning.

[@dohy1]

A lot of former players overrate themselves.

[@juliusedwards7199]

Basically, he’s saying the Brown told him the right thing and his ego couldn’t handle it. Marbury essentially told him the same thing! Larry knew basketball he was just a terrible communicator!!! Ask A.I.! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@floridasportsworld]

Arrested Development. Trevor Ariza, hood guy from California who never grew up. Larry Brown had no patience for these types of guys. I dont blame Larry Brown, he was a lagend and Ariza was not.

[@reesematic3]

Bruh larry brown is overrated why u think stars dont really like him. Thats why the Olympic team was trash casuse of him..

[@floridasportsworld]

@@reesematic3 Larry Brown Coached some good teams and took them into deep playoff runs with David Robinson & Sean Elliot in the early 1990s SA Spurs, The mid 1990s Indian Pacers with Reggie Miller, then took a horrible 76ers team to the finals with Allen Iverson then he rebuilt the Detroit Pistons with Richard Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Chauncey Billups and Ben Wallace and beat a heavily Favored Lakers Team with Shaq & Kobe won the finals and went back to the finals the next year and lost to the twin tower SA Spurs Duncan, Robinson, Ginobili and Tony Parker in 7 GAMES. He almost won back to back finals with Detroit if not for that Spurs team. You are CRAZY To say that about Larry Brown. Ariza was a BUM. Pot head, wanna be gang member, hood mentality, single mother raised hoodlum. Coaches dont like to deal with these guys cause they are not raised right and they are not coachable at all. Waste of time.

[@miked853]

Wow, it’s known LB is an asshole, is it too much for you to admit that possibility?

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Olympic team trash bc them players were arrogant and stuck in the hero ball mode that Jordan laid the foundation for

[@dcxxxx]

Every whyte coach back then was toxic and ruined players careers. 👌 Let's ask Allen Iverson what impact Coach Brown had on HIS career. FFS!

[@TheHiphop98]

These dudes don't like us to many times they have shown whats what get them dinosaurs outta here

[@TempeSoldier123]

Huh?

[@user-ov7uv3wx6i]

How bout you get outta here. Get lost fool!

[@floridasportsworld]

Look at Trevor, barely speaks proper english, long dreads, cursing every second. He just doesnt like guys like Trevor. I would have a headache trying to coach him as well. These kids are not raised right, they are being raised by women with no father and look at the results. These two adults in their late 40s can barely sit up straight and speak properly and have an adult conversation they were so high on weed its like speaking to a 15yr old. You can see why he ended up the way he did and was treated as such a kid who gained no respect and was not treated like a man because he behaves like a child. When will preople take accountability for themselves? Larry Brown was coaching someone who suffers from Arrested Development an overgrown baby.

[@chrisjacobs9101]

He wasn’t wrong though look at him too many like him sorry to say it

[@lallen8462]

​@@floridasportsworldYeah Florida seems to alot of middle aged - old WGs like u who believe they are the authority over how young brothers are supposed to behave. Which is why there are none of you left in the NBA anymore lol. The inability to respect those who were raised in other cultures as men. Most of u guys usually have kids that dont even like u. Take that nonsense back to the 1800s u old fart

[@davethewave5501]

Mad bc you don’t want to do what you’re told? Gah damn.

[@jimtib8206]

Ariza was a bum, immature fake tough guy. Larry Brown tried to guide him but hothead wasnt having it

[@jamesball5743]

Facts

[@Tmztohytaa]

Oh hes so cool. He was gonna attack an old man. Typical though

[@lilbru]

People forget how raw warriors sprewell was...the best sg after Jordan in the 90s.

[@jovantavares4598]

Larry brown was a garbage coach

[@incognitomosquito3120]

Pro athletes are some of the biggest crybabies in the world.

[@bunnih6759]

Larry Brown is a G.O.A.T coach.....Trevor you shouldn't speak on him....atleast he was honest to tell you to your face. You not to the level to speak on Larry Brown. Fact you speaking on it he may had a point.

[@samarthbhatnagar347]

Yeah point of shooting down a young player's confidence is the point, being old school doesn't mean you are an asshole to players and he pissed off old school guys too, all in media articles.

[@RandomBurner]

Ariza in his trans phase (long hair) lol

[@DJRashadHayes]

Its crazy how stuck in his ways that Larry Brown was. At one point he was thinking outside the box in finally making Allen a 2 guard rather than forcing him to run point like he did in his first year coaching Iverson in 97, and then he becomes almost dogmatic in his philosophies instead of looking at a player’s skillset. Its crazy how much talent he traded away for veterans just because. And then the olympics, he benches lebron, melo, & D wade just because of their ages!! Just insane. And he got away with this shit for years before teams finally stopped hiring him. He ruined the olympics and three different teams. He told Tim thomas to get in the post when dude had the skillset of a 2 guard and a small forward! He couldve had Larry Hughes running the point! These players wanted to play with iverson! Imagine them growing with iverson instead of being traded.

[@allgoodwoods219]

I’ve always thought Larry Brown was severely overrated. That Detroit team was great because of the players, not him.

[@floridasportsworld]

Nah, His Detroit teams were full of players that other teams gave up on. Rip Hamilton they got from the Wizards, They got Billups from the TWolves, Rasheed Wallace from the Blazers, Ben Wallace from Orlando magic, messed up by drafting Darko which was Joe Dumars choice to pick over Carmelo. Lindsey Hunter From Raptors. And the Beat a super stacked Lakers team in the NBA Finals and Destroyed them as super Underdogs. He went back to finals next year and took Spurs to Game 7 barely losing to Duncan, Bowen, Ginobili, T. Parker. He took Iverson to his only finals losing to Kobe & Shaq, and he took Reggie Miller to playoffs every year he coached with Inidan Pacers in mid 90s he was a Great Coach.

[@liamartinproductions]

And that 04 championship was luck from injuries and kobe ball hogging

[@torrisfairley3227]

​@@liamartinproductions That was not luck and had nothing to do with the injuries. Detroit's defense was mostly why they beat the Lakers.

[@vindigga6]

Maybe he was trying to be a tough coach, tough love to get what he needed out of you. But maybe he later realized not everyone responds well to that stuff. We should applaud his growth and he was at least man enough to admit he was wrong.

[@williestyle35]

Lol Coach Larry Brown never admitted he was "wrong" about anything - including nearly destroying half the college programs that hired him. See all his recruiting violations at SMU...