Why tungsten is getting popular again..

[@orbitforcreators]

Nobody takes home gel scraps at the end of the day??? I used to have a closet full of gels I never payed a dime for. Whatever was up for grabs after production went home with me.

[@BlaineWestropp1]

love this. I do love tungsten, but also the ease of use of LED. Like film, I am thankful we are still able to use both.

[@moviesmadebymike]

dope seeing two of my favorite "new" filmmaking creators coming together and commenting on each others shit. its like the filmmaking multi-verse.

[@MattAitia]

Agreed!

[@BlaineWestropp1]

@@moviesmadebymike I love it

[@DavidGriffin]

Listen to me youngster... Buy heat shield for your gels. It's a clear plastic type sheet that removes 99% of the melting UV light of tungsten. Thus you can reuse your gels almost unltd times because you can protect the gel from the heat that's coming from the uv rays of the light. (Eg put some distance between the gel and the light source). This has let me reuse my gels like 20x's over and then some. Your welcome.

[@Trey_Travis]

Been on a lot of recent film production, tungsten lights are being used left and right. I even see 10k and 20ks used. Plus as an aspiring cinematographer, I prefer the higher power bill for that color rendition is a deal breaker. Especially those lower amber Kelvins like 2000k or under which modern LEDs besides astera titan tubes can't do well.

[@moviesmadebymike]

Good shit bro. Short and sweet, packed with a lot of detail. I actually preferred your skintones with the LED light idk maybe I'm just weird.

[@MattAitia]

I think I do too

[@owen_poffenroth]

Very interesting, I liked B a lot more, the results surprised me

[@MattAitia]

Honestly me too

[@joshmillerdp]

Wow that’s very interesting I thought B was the tungsten. Warmer skin tones and no color shift atleast to my eye

[@MattAitia]

I was surprised too

[@I.O.M.]

Too funny. When I worked at a rental shop 20 + years ago lights always went out with scrims and gels and always came back with them. Nobody tossed a gel unless it was unusable. Old lights are super easy to fix.

[@MattAitia]

Ha! Times have changed

[@directorparisholmes2024]

It’s good to keep one good Tungsten light in your kit. Mine happens to be a Arri 750 plus and a ETC Leko 750.

[@MattAitia]

Love a good Leko!

[@immarcusgram]

Loved the test dude!

[@MattAitia]

Thank you!

[@sapienproductions]

Preferred A. There was a crispness that wasn't there with B. B made the shot feel more like Mini DV compared to A.

[@DyenamicFilms]

I started out shooting on film and used tungsten lights in the 90's. Didn't turn to the digital "darkside" until about 2008. For a while there I was unaware of the advancements being made in lighting. Yeah, tungsten lights get hot. You have to be aware of where you place them. I put a small tungsten light next to a curtain and the heat started to melt it almost setting it on fire.

[@MattAitia]

Just trying to thrive out here in the digital darkside 🤧

[@samprstn]

Ha, I just shot my first short on 16mm film and we went for tungsten lights. It was a very different experience but i’m excited to see how the footage looks

[@MattAitia]

That sounds like fun!

[@alanimber]

Thanks for this test, Matt! Makes me want to get a used arri SoftBank kit again. Tungsten fixtures tend to bring out magenta in skin tones. That’s what gave it away for me. But there is a filmic quality to them. Can’t explain it

[@MattAitia]

Interesting!

[@Chandler_Goodrich]

I love both LED and tungsten for different things. I prefer real tungsten over 3200K LED when shooting tungsten white balance, but love 2000K Quasar tubes for augmenting firelight. In this test, though, the LED did look better to my eye. Nice content man!

[@MattAitia]

that’s good to know. not a lot of LEDs are great at mimicking fire

[@PlanetImo]

I defo prefered A, but I suppose if I hadn't had a side by side comparison, I'd have been none the wiser. Very interesting - thanks :)

[@MattAitia]

Interesting!

[@FrogyProd]

I liked the image from B more and thought it was the tungsten. Surprised it was the other way around

[@MattAitia]

I know right!

[@FolkeFox]

The only sad part is now the prices of these are going up in the used market and you can't randomly find them in trinket shops anymore. :( I remember seeing a set of 3 arri open heads in the trash a couple years ago and I regret not taking it so much.

[@MattAitia]

Most vintage stuff goes up in price these days lol

[@tonysluna]

Great Video.. 1st time in your KZbin channel... I did not guess A... I thought.. B was Tungsten... I think... LED is what I plan to use...

[@MattAitia]

Thank you!

[@sheldonspock5566]

For what it's worth, I guessed A. Besides obvious color difference, image B looks way flatter, less contrasty, and therefore has less variation in tonality. Not entirely sure how this is correlated to the nature of the light source, as the test is too unrigorous though. Wanted to guess B cause seemed counterintuitive that A was colder, but IMHO image A has a more of that proverbial "organic" look to it, so to speak, which is why I picked it.

[@MattAitia]

Interesting analysis!

[@sheldonspock5566]

@@MattAitia what's the CRI rating of the LED used?

[@johnf.hebert1409]

I was surprised because B looked better on your skin and the fall off was smoother.

[@MattAitia]

I know right!

[@CineMilledUSA]

I guessed correctly.... for me on a practical day to day basis with reasonable budgets Tung. is pretty much dead and is not coming back, and honestly I'm fine with that. I dont't miss it. The upsides are just unsurmountable. Furthermore with each passing year LED gets better and better, and the apps that go with them get even more powerful and practical. If your deakins and you have massive budget and are working with a director that has weight pull and also cares about this sort of thing.....yes tung. is still king. Anytime you are burning something the resulting light is special and in the right hands it does make a difference and creates a kind of movie magic that is intangible. But on your bread and butter jobs, day to day mudane kinda of work? its dead. Starts becoming really hard to reationalize the extra expense that come with them. Anyway....thats my .02 cents! Loving your channel BTW! subb'd

[@Sup90210]

You really, really had to know your shit when shooting film and tungsten to make it look good from on set through developing and printing. That’s why so many DP’s didn’t start getting serious jobs till after twenty plus years learning the craft. It’s good people are getting interested in film and older technology, if you learn the craft it will only help no mater what you use.

[@MattAitia]

Amen!

[@vailant]

I used almost exclusively tungsten lights during my time in film school, I always set my white balance to 3200K, as I was told to do. I assume you did, but just to make sure, did you do both of A and B in 3200K?

[@MattAitia]

Yes, both at 3200k.

[@michelangelocorrado1961]

Why do I like the LED more??!!

[@MattAitia]

I may feel the same haha

[@chrisgorys]

Great video

[@MattAitia]

Thanks Chris!

[@kylelowe]

Also, don’t forget! Bi-Color LEDs are usually more color accurate in 3200K than they are at 5600K.

[@MattAitia]

Interesting

[@joepalmer5339]

Still love tungsten for sure

[@sivagopigannavarapu5906]

Hi bro

[@GlobalShutterNY]

Photons be Photons - I think with a bit of color tweaking in post it really makes no difference. Def more of the vinyl retro vibe than a real difference IMHO ...