Why Video Game Movies Don't Work - Game Scoop! 407

[@jasuindiloan]

Damn, that Metroid music at 36:01. Straight to the feels!

[@Mucrush]

Warcraft is one of the best video games movies. The story isn't hard to translate to movie (the original story was even extended through novels!) and the director, Duncan Jones, is a Warcraft fan himself, knows the world and characters. He really cared a lot. The movie isn't perfect, no movie is, but its really not a bad movie and its an even better video game movie!

[@gamescoop]

John Carpenter's The Thing is a perfect movie.

[@BaldTheAvenger1]

Game Scoop logo is right. Kurt Russel pisses on a computer in that movie, and its amazing.

[@gamescoop]

...pretty sure he just pours his drink on the computer.

[@BaldTheAvenger1]

GAH! You're right. Could've sworn he peed in it lol

[@mileswilliams4807]

I absolutely love this channel. Game Scoop is hands down the best podcast on the internet. You guys actually know games and seem passionate. Keep up the great work!

[@gamescoop]

Scoop!

[@mileswilliams4807]

Game Scoop! Scoop indeed.

[@ikotherainman4866]

I think Regular Podcast is the best, Game Scoop, then the Comedy Button

[@tonys_write]

Scoop, Beyond, and almost anything from Kinda Funny.

[@subculturenz]

Guessed it!! Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego... Lol I was randomly reading a wiki about it the other day for nostelgia purposes.

[@LPDisturbedHU]

I don't care what anyone says. I just saw Warcraft last night and it's become an absolute favorite of mine. If I had the chance to see it this past summer, I would've, guess I'll just have to settle with the steelbook!

[@MarijuanaNirvana-lofi]

Tarkovsky's Solaris is fantastic

[@CarlosChism]

I appreciate the discussion about videogame stories, but disagree on a few points - like the argument that videogames can never tell stories as well as film or narrative books. I studied literature during undergrad and am in a creative writing MFA program now, picking apart fiction, seeing how it ticks, and using what I learn to write my own fiction. And from what I've seen of *some* videogame stories, the medium absolutely has the potential to tell great stories. Firewatch, Gone Home, and Oxenfree are great recent examples of straightforward, short narratives that are on par with what gets published in book form today. When we sit down to watch a movie, read a book, play a game, etc., we're inhabiting a different mental space to experience a story, and games simply allow for a different mental space than other mediums. Like, Gone Home would have been *good* as a novel or a movie, but it wouldn't have allowed the audience to participate in the narrative space the way games can allow. Also - movies aren't inherently narrative focused. The vast majority of them are structured to tell a story because that approach has been the most commercially successful. There are less narrative-focused films out there that explore the limitations of visual language.

[@Calmacily]

Carlos Chism Gone Home as a videogame made me care much more about the story then even a well made movie probably would have.

[@aastech77]

I actually thought Carmen Sandiego when Daemon said yes to the "hat" question, then immediately said no. Weird.

[@gamescoop]

Yeah, I thought I gave it away!

[@francoisrousseau2202]

Old enough to guess Carmen Santiago at question 17... the game is educational but not played in school back in early 90s.. well in Canada. I played a lot of that game back home on my father's Amiga. Still remember the travel guidebook that came with the game.

[@jonkuch8726]

I'm playing Forza Horizon 3 but I will be playing Gears 4 and Mafia 3 Friday. Can't wait. Those games are going to steal my life for a few months.

[@beckie8011]

Jared looks so exhausted and defeated after that 20 questions, lol!

[@bigdb4755]

what was the music before 20 questions?

[@bigdb4755]

Thanks, why I never recognized. Baddass sounding tho.

[@wonderbop2656]

I would also to add why games don't translate to movies well is because many games have great stories but most game we play because of the fun game mechanics. people don't play the COD or battlefield games because of the story mainly but because it is a fun shooter game. I mean assassin's Creed and watch dog's had great stories but it is fun to play because we get to choose where we parkour and what we hack but a movie takes away our choice. and choice is what makes open world games so much fun.

[@TheCurrykiev]

Am I wrong, but I remember Brian guessing the game last week, not andrew? Mind fuck if I've remembered it completely incorrectly.

[@solofox9426]

You missed, DriveClub VR, Tomb Raider, Star Wars Battlefront X-wing, Loading Human, and 100ft Robot Golf. I really could go on put I don't like typing. What I am trying to say is It seems like IGN really doesn't give a shit about PSVR or VR in general. They really could be doing some better coverage. Sad thing is if this thing takes off like the Wii they will jump on the band wagon and pretend they were always on board.Nothing against Gamescoop though, you guys are the best part of IGN!

[@gamescoop]

It's true we missed a couple of those, but Tomb Raider and Battlefront aren't launch titles. Jared is updating our launch lineup with the ones we missed.

[@DoTheDewtoDoWhatsDue]

Sam totally invented Super Mario Odyssey before it existed at 36:53. Whooooooaaaaaa....

[@bretbret8293]

Those kicks are pretty great, Daemon. I already have 5 pairs of Vans, but maybe it's time for another. :/

[@gamescoop]

One can never have too many kicks.

[@Munky507]

mars exploration where they discover demons/the gates of hell, isn't that more Doom (original) than Dead Space?

[@evilmorty575]

didn't they already make 4 uncharted movies?

[@NOVA92x]

well that escalated quickly!

[@evilmorty575]

do your parents know you're on the internet?

[@Sidoshua]

you could say the mushroom people turned into blocks are dead. And by smashing the block you are freeing there soul.

[@sirchunkee]

I swear daemon skipped from question 8 straight to 9?

[@thewagelessmage9866]

Nintendo actually expressed interest in vr before anyone else x)

[@aaronjones6798]

Perhaps video game movies need to start as small scale film, similar to the 1st X-Men or the 1st Iron Man. The first thing to do is get them right and build up from there

[@nathangm81]

Justin is way wrong on video games not having stories as good as movies has. And also, people used to think comic books would never get decent movies, because there was so many issues to unpack in just one single movie. And that most of the time those stories didn't make a lot of sense. And look now, there's plenty of movies that perfectly translated well from comics to the big screen and even to TV series.

[@ipathskater4]

The problem with video games movies is that they keep making movies out of games that don't have any story. Mario, Angry Birds, Tetris, Minecraft....none of these games have a story. Now they're doing Portal...the great thing about all of these games are the game-play, the mechanics, not the story. Take a game that has an actually decent story and the movie might actually be good lol.

[@thefattmish]

Instead of asking "was it made after Jan 1st, 2000", the editors should ask "is this after the fifth/fourth/second/sixth generation"...

[@gamescoop]

Interesting, I don't think of consoles as numbered generations.

[@thefattmish]

Yeah. Jared does... most other people don't generally. I just think "2000" is a bad question because it splits two generations.

[@ohhkelsgamingsquad-rich6000]

Carmen San Diego? Guessed at 16

[@ohhkelsgamingsquad-rich6000]

SWEET!!!! The clue about the school game is what got me there. 1st time I guessed it and they did not

[@joseph233382]

I would love to see a quake movie that is has gore and a strong lead character like the marine that fights the cyborgs

[@melindamontgomery9337]

If the guess is a question you should call it 19 questions! They should get 20 questions!

[@gamescoop]

Um, "Is it X?" is a question.

[@melindamontgomery9337]

Game Scoop! Very true! Touché!

[@zenanarchist]

I'm mesmerized by the reflections of Jared's big bald head

[@narutoultimajm]

How about a witcher Netflix series 😜

[@mileswilliams4807]

That would be dope!

[@MrGameControler]

It would probably resemble GoT a lot (high fantasy, sex, politics) except that it would follow Geralt & his loved ones instead of dozens of characters who are at war with each other.

[@kuribo04]

I don't think conparing video game stories to film stories makes much sense, or saying they are worse. You couldn't tell stuff like FFVII or MGS2 in a movie, and besides, they are commenting on their medium.

[@old3nglish_234]

Did I hear this right? Sam considers Tarkovsky's Solaris a part of the sci-fi/horror genre? That's absurd.

[@charliemilroy6497]

of course videogame movies can be good. the length argument is invalid, just look at adaptations of tv shows made into movies. the reason for videogame movies being historically poor is that the stories were bad, but it's mostly because studios don't know how to adapt videogames to movies. think about comic book movies 10 or more years ago. now Hollywood knows what they are doing with them

[@gamescoop]

Please name one good movie based on a TV show.

[@charliemilroy6497]

I can't name one, but a few. The A Team, 21 Jump Street, Starsky and Hutch, and the Inbetweeners. There are a few more. They aren't all great, but it is possible. There absolutely will be a good videogame movie eventually, it just has to be set in the world. They'll never make a good movie based on a book though.

[@RichardHannay]

Everybody keeps forgetting but Ace Attorney is the best videogame movie...

[@DapimpBDSD]

never would have guess Carmen San diego

[@gabrielDMC01]

Correction final fantasy 10 is not a MMO final fantasy 11 is :(

[@Sidoshua]

They were talking about Dragon Quest X.

[@OOCHIES]

I’m here in 2023 and I’m Happy to say we have exceptional video game movies AND television shows now!

[@thefattmish]

Time for a haircut, Justin! ;-)

[@spitfire5381]

FREELANCER IT HAD THE TRIFECTA OF SPACE COMBAT/TRAIDING/SIM....Has anyone here played that one?!

[@markofunkade]

A firewatch movie? Won't we know the ending already

[@gamescoop]

Won't you know the ending of any video game movie?

[@markofunkade]

Not necessarily. Similar to comic book movies, I feel like other video game movies, often have different stories set in the same universe, resulting in twists with different endings. Firewatch just seems like a very singular story. So if they were to remake it, it's hard to imagine how it could be different than the game while still being called Firewatch (because its singular story is largely what makes Firewatch, Firewatch). Of course, there's nothing wrong with knowing the ending, and there's nothing wrong with a faithful live action adaptation - like going to see a live play that you've seen others perform before. I guess what I was trying to say is that since video game movies tend to be more like spin-offs, how would Firewatch translate into a video game movie? Anyways, it'll be interesting to see

[@s.m.1981]

No way! I finally guessed one that they didn't!

[@dirk1526]

I've been reading ign for 23 years

[@IceCubeInMyIceTea]

isn't it their 20 year anniversary?

[@JonathanOber]

Jordan M he's from the future.

[@dirk1526]

Jonathan Ober Duuuuuuuude shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh c'mon

[@EzFlyers10]

easiest 20 questions ever... omg. panel failed so hard. knew it like halfway thru. that said it's kinda adventure & kinda puzzle.

[@malcolmsovani1275]

I watch thins at a School trip in a visiting rival school and Mondays We have 6 memos about watching porn on school trips but everybody was confessed about us, because we watched Event Horzion.

[@ohhkelsgamingsquad-rich6000]

I liked the Silent Hill movie

[@JutmanCustoms]

Daemon & the crew, I listen to many-a-podcast on many-a-day and this is hands down my favourite, Is it because I am in my mid 30's or is it purely based on the awesome content? Little bit of both me finks - Any-who I myself am a video game collector (see here www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/ninterview_avid_retro_game_collector_justin_jutman_hickman old room pre-flood! and here new room post flood - twitter.com/nintencollect/status/778116506169335808) and was curious, Do any of you guys share my passion and collect video games? If so would love to know which system(s)?? Would be awesome to hear your answers on the next SCOOP!! Keep up the fantastic work Peace! Justin.

[@TheIncredibleJumpman]

Not sure if I should be surprised that they know nothing about War Thunder or not...

[@TravelWright22]

same year as n64

[@matthewsan78]

SCOOP!

[@DannieDecentVlogs]

I enjoyed this

[@godspeedagogo]

Jared Petty!

[@gameclipsz1238]

lol I Jared took the trans vibrator comment seriously

[@carsonsmith2680]

Jared is losing weight I think

[@TravelWright22]

LOL

[@JaviCastillo_89]

First time I guess one haha