Why Vintage Telecaster Pickups Die - Ask Zac 130

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I played a show in Norman, Oklahoma, on a Saturday, and everything sounded fantastic with my 1957 Esquire. I picked her up on Tuesday, and there was no sound when I went to the neck pickup. I checked solder joints and metered it, and sure enough, the Esquire's neck pickup was dead. This episode is about how Tele pickups die, and how to a degree it is a bit inevitable to the gigging Tele player.
Gear Used:
1957 Fender Esquire with "New Tall" Ron Ellis neck pickup. Restoration and aging on the body by Dan "Danocaster" Strain. Rewind of bridge pickup by Ron Ellis.
Strings:
D'Addario NYXL 10-46 Amazon affiliate link amzn.to/3uD1WnZ
Pick:
D'Andrea Medium-Heavy
Amp:
2021 Fender Vibro Champ Reverb
Effects used:
amp verb
#askzac #guitartech #telecaster

[@ocduff]

I've been making pickups so long, I learned from Jason Lollar's 90's home printed book on how to make pickups - with a hand held drill! One big take-away was his recommendation of a glue "fillet" around the interior of the magnet to flatwork joint (often just the E magnets) - the glue sucks itself into the tiny gaps, and both stops bobbin warpage during winding or hot wax potting and inadvertently seals the pickup from egress of sweat and beer. Masking tape is not enough I have found and I don't use it - CBS era Fenders come in all the time where the rust "burns" through the tape. As you said Zac - these pickups aren't forever - but thanks to Jason, I've only had a return or two due to a rusty pickup in 20 years. Great content as always - wishing yours and everyone's vintage pickups a long life!

[@twkotb]

Enjoying your pickups on my strat, OC. Greetings from Ireland.

[@J.C...]

You know what else kills pickups? Using steel wool to polish your frets. All that steel dust is drawn directly onto and INTO your pickup. Then the steel rusts and shorts out the pickup.

[@AskZac]

Exactly

[@MurrayWilliams]

Steel wool is the devil.

[@Johngonefishin]

I'm lucky..........I've got a virgin 53' Tele that I bought from the original owner in 1982. Still sounds fantastic and is completely untouched............fingers crossed..... I recently let go of a 1960 Tele.....also untouched and sounding great.

[@ranchoricardo]

Maybe your Esquire was trying to send you a not-so-subtle message about wanting to return to it's roots -- as a single pickup Esquire! I'm only kidding. So sorry to hear about your pickup woes, Zac... but let's be honest, you sound great no matter what guitar or pickup selection you're using.

[@jltrem]

That opening made me grin. Loved Tony Joe, loved "Rainy Night in Georgia". And the first time I spent a night in Georgia, it rained all night long.

[@fivewattworld]

Love these deep dives Zac!!!

[@AskZac]

Come back to Nashville soon!

[@jimmyjoefine]

When I got my tele way back in 1984, the previous owner had removed the cover on the neck pickup. When I would gig, the high e-string would often get caught on the lip of the pickup when I would bend it. Aside from being extremely frustrating, it eventually killed the pickup by severing the windings. Back then, about the only replacement available was a DeArmond tele style pickup, which is what I went with. Still on the guitar and sounds okay to my ears but I wouldn't mind trying something else out in that position if I thought it made a huge difference. Honestly, it never made any difference to me, I was happy to just have a working pickup. Thanks for everything you do on here and congrats on 35K subs!

[@markhammer643]

I had to rewind a buddy's neck pickup on a '70s Tele. It seems during that period, Fender was using lacquer to pot coils, rather than wax. I gather over time, and especially temperature changes, the lacquer contracts and coil-turns can tear.

[@henrycoopermusic5094]

Great stuff, thanks! The neck pickup on my CS Nocaster died from being raised and lowered many times. The route for the neck PU was was so tight that the windings from the bobbin to the the eyelets rubbed against the wall of the route until they wore away. Now I only use Tele neck pickups with 2 notches in the base of the bobbin , where the eyelets and leads meet. Live & learn LoL, thanks again, love your channel.

[@artreno5135]

Good morning Zac !! You seem to have so much fun doing these videos and sharing great stuff for everyone to geek out on !! Thank you for that brother !!

[@AskZac]

My pleasure!!

[@PsionicAudio]

Love the video, great presentation. Sweet Rainy Night too.

[@AskZac]

Thank you kindly

[@andycasile]

Great video as usual! This is not something I have ever experienced or heard much about, so I enjoyed this a lot. I'd also like to take a second to appreciate how precise and in the pocket your playing is. You have covert chops out the wazoo, and your tone is superb.

[@thejimmymeister]

I'm often impressed by how clean his technique is, but I especially enjoyed the playing in this video.

[@vayabroder729]

Great video! The notorious ICPC; internal coil pole corrosion! Heat and shock, as when hit directly can affect pickups, definitely. Many years ago I had a ‘69 Tele with Bigsby; the pickup died and Lindy Fralin rewound it and it sounded amazing. I am thinking that this same thing applies to early P Bass and lapsteels too. I’ve learned new things in this video too. Thank you, brother!!

[@ppaaccco]

Amazing deep dive on the tele's apparently infinite lore. The bridge on my '85 A-Serial Jap blackguard died just as you described, at a particularly hot gig on Mexicali's desert. I learned the hard way!

[@WillKellyHardKnocksGtrs]

Pickups die for any number of reasons ... coil winding breaks, lead coil wire gets cut, pole pieces rust and wear through the coil winding insulation, bobbins can outgas and corrode wire, pole piece gets pushed through the top of the bobbin and snags a coil winding, strings get hung underneath the edge of the top bobbin with no cover and cuts the winding ... man, I've seen just about everything happen to a Fender pickup ... Hope you're doing well Zac!

[@FabianSalomonsson]

This was a great video Zac, thank you. I always learn from your videos. Congratulations on 35k subscribers.

[@AskZac]

Thanks so much!

[@smokepeddler]

I just had a tele bridge pup custom wound by Chris from fat pups. A3 large pole, wound with 42 formvare wire 6k output. . bobbins and pole pieces glued and lacquered before winding. Sounds Amazing! Hope it lasts a long time.

[@johnnymalmsteems198]

I really enjoy your channel and love for the tele Zac. You’re very down to earth and humble…much love dude.

[@AskZac]

I appreciate that!

[@larryyork1146]

That’s why Leo put the cover on the treble pickup. I know that limits your picking style but to each his own.

[@AskZac]

Ding ding ding!!!

[@rickhadden1574]

Thanks Zac being a Tele player myself, , this was invaluable information, that I didn't know and needed to,, thank you

[@chrisquinn9104]

Shout out to Brantley Rewinds. Great winder, wonderful guy. Cut his teeth working at Fralin, then started the Pickup winding dept at Mojotone. Easy to get on the phone. He’s wound me probably over 20 pickups at this point

[@AskZac]

Good rec!

[@kyekennedy7507]

Great Rainy Night Zac. Really enjoying your videos. Great info and interviews.

[@Jam-m7m]

I’m really happy with your Patreon channel Zac…I think if other people join they’d be very satisfied with their membership, and I love those medium heavy picks I got for joining your Patreon channel

[@AskZac]

Thank you so much, Dale

[@stanbarnhart6677]

Being a retired picking mechanic, I can't help but wonder if w.d. 40 would help repel moisture on pups... sprayed a many inside dist cap after getting moisture in them from pressure washing engines. It works so great for that ! I can only think it could carry on over to protecting pups from moisture. Really enjoyed your video set again. Thanks so much !

[@smokepeddler]

W.D.= water displacement

[@Gorilla.Guitar]

my fear would be the petroleum distillates eating away at the insulation.

[@LPCustom3]

Zak; I have a 1948 Gibson BR-9 Lapsteel. Not long after I got it the pickup died. I sent it to Jon & Throbak as he has the original winding machine that was used when it was made. It sounds great now! but yeah, the humidity and heat will cause the windings to deteriorate along with everything else. He used NOS wire that he has saved just for rewinds.

[@josephpashka7369]

Vintage Fender 400 pedal steels often had pickups that went bad. It was a Fender production oversight. That's why I made the YT video "Why do Vintage FENDER Pickups Die? " years ago. Get 'em rewound, and party on.

[@CC-te5zf]

I could listen to that intro all day. This video is must for anyone considering laying down $6K for a PAF hum bucker!

[@KRAZEEIZATION]

The most Telelicious sounds on KZbin!

[@editorjuno]

The most common reason old Tele pickups die -- and are quite inconsistent, some sounding great others not so much -- is because they were manufactured incorrectly from the getgo. Leo thought it was OK to wind directly on the slug magnet pole pieces, relying on the wire's (thin layer of) "enamel" or formvar to prevent shorting to the pole pieces, without first wrapping the row of pole pieces with insulating tape -- or, even better, figuring out how to put (just a tiny bit of) distance between the wire and those pole pieces.

[@bobbaumeister5243]

Thanks Zac! I've only buy German Telecaster Pickups. These are the best!

[@bluesingmusic3443]

Good info. My Telecaster turns 30 in October. So far she's been rode hard, been through tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, & perhaps cruelest of all besides my curious Grandchildren (their mother wasn't allowed to touch it, but Papa's precious babies, well that's different), me pounding on it. But I've always tried to keep it in relative safety. So far no problem. But I don't play it constantly, I've got a cheap import for that. I'm doing a couple of Country songs (NOT my genre) for a guy. Non paying gig, but he asked me nicely. I was trying to mimic the old Mississippi Hill Country Blues sound (RL Burnside, Fred McDowell, etc) I tried it acoustic, recorded the guitar last night, thought it sucked. Listened today, sucked even harder. Broke out the Tele, a whole new vibe hit me. Sort of a cross between the Hill Country & Delta, pkus a little Texas thrown in. I think I've got a decent song now, kinda swampy, spooky sounding, so I'm happy. The other tune is basic folk/country, I'll knock that out quick. Ant way my Tele has inspired me just pulling off the stand, I love the Telecaster. They're such versatile guitars, & in the right hands, they're magic.(Wish I had those magic hands😂🤣🤣🤣🤣)

[@dwftube]

It really doesn't matter these days if your pickup dies - with people like Ron Ellis et al making such good repros no one is going to know except you.

[@david25876]

I’ve heard good things about WIZ and Throbak for great replicas. Really expensive though.

[@whitlong4486]

Rainy night in Georgia? Very great forgotten song.

[@mikefromusa6902]

I had a brand new fender branded “original vintage” bridge pickup that I tried using on a friend’s build and it was dead. I felt bad and I gave him a different pickup and I ended up keeping the dead pickup. I ended up rewinding it with a Mickey Moused drill in a vice rig. It was definitely a stagger winding and sounds really really different than any bridge pickup I have heard. I still use it from time to time

[@robertprice5039]

I had to replace a friend's bridge humbucker on his Gibson for the same reason. The pickup didn't have a cover on it. I was just thinking of this playing my Tele in the hot weather. The cloth coil wrapping I am sure absorbs sweat on a Tele pickup.

[@Tonetwisters]

Diminishing wax and lacquer: Most likely why Fender put a bridge cover on Telecaster pickups.

[@willcarmack1242]

Love your channel...thank you for sharing your knowledge and dedication....well explained and real world education. Godspeed to you Brother....Much Respect and Love from St Petersburg Florida

[@AskZac]

So nice of you

[@Deliquescentinsight]

Rainy Night in Georgia, Tony Joe White, one of his most beautiful songs, - I am a sucker for major7 songs, instant mood change.

[@GuitaristPat]

Wow very interesting I learn something every time I watch your videos I have a1967 Fender Jaguar pickups are fading a bit but still have a bit of life in them 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸Zac😊😊👌👍

[@andypeacockmusic]

Really lovely playing at the start of this one. Two years ago I didn’t have a Tele or a deluxe reverb, I have both now….

[@leiferickson3183]

I think that Tele pickup wire is slightly thinner than almost all other pickups. I think 43AWG vs 42AWG.

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

I had encountered this in the late 1970s and early 1980s and I would just "Seymour" the thing(Tele or Strat). Now I know what caused the little jewels to die. I wished I'd saved 'em, too. Great video, as usual.

[@jimmyp1017]

Been a hot summer here in North East Texas...some venues have stages that are basically outside or the AC can't keep up. We've been sweat soaked by the end of several gigs this year. I tried to wipe my Tele down as best I could but I can see how the sweat could cause me problems eventually. I just play a MIM Tele so I would probably just replace a pickup if it died...but at least I'll know why it died now!

[@joeurbanowski321]

Very informative vid..! Thanks.👍🏼..Hey..What are modern pu’s potted in..?

[@AskZac]

Depends on the maker. Usually wax

[@charleswallace5818]

Dylan talks tone Flat 6 is what I use. Thanks for sharing.

[@ccfmafia3301]

Zac! For the life of me I can't remember the name of the song that your guitar intro came from. What is it?! What a great classic R&B sound.

[@3fsw3]

Rainy Night In Georgia- Cornell Dupree

[@ccfmafia3301]

@@3fsw3 I should have known it was Cornell Dupree...

[@davegallagher7428]

That was interesting. I almost always learn something new watching channel, thanks Zac!

[@AskZac]

Glad to hear it!

[@davidwood351]

Thanks for this insight. I have a GE Smith signature Tele, the bridge pickup is not working, I think I’ll send it to Seymour Duncan to either repair, or rewind.

[@richthetrashpicker-upper5244]

Man you got the best sound

[@jeremyphillips7335]

I used to work for ABB power transformer company and we had Farm bar on our coils that we wound. Before we would send them down to assembly we would bake the coils that had Farmvar on them which would insulate them better and keep them from retaining moisture acidity. Why don't you just bake the pickup with the farmer on The Wire so it insulates it more and add oil repellent.

[@AskZac]

Great idea!

[@bartnettle]

microphonic pickups also wear fast as the coils vibrate where loose, flaked or melted.

[@davidreidy5750]

This was really educational,thanks!🤖⚡

[@MrSnead-vp1ll]

Its very hard when you tour, with gigs nightly just as Zak says. Hot festivals, ever changing humidity, instruments are turned into wrecking balls.

[@claudecat]

Love the depth of knowledge here, down to the various coatings on the wire. I learned a lot! Doubt I'll ever use it, as all my guitars are cheapos (great cheapos!!!), but it's good to know. I will avoid heat, as is my natural inclination.

[@davidreidy5750]

Was seriously thinking about upgrading my stock pickups,cause I just love playing my mine.By the way I think it's good to keep any guitars in a dry cool place especially in brutally hot summers.

[@DKentization]

nice nod to Brother Dupree although to me you sound more like Reggie Young. Still cool.

[@AskZac]

I'll take that!

[@utahprepper8925]

Really beautiful intro Zac. Really nice!

[@AskZac]

Thanks a ton!

[@charleswallace5818]

Jim Roth is a name I have not heard in a long time. Dad's SG Supreme has one of Jim's pickups in the bridge. Small small world

[@cwness4587]

Another video that when I Thought I knew it all you had to go ahead and school me. Great vid as always. CW

[@AskZac]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@wernermoser3406]

Can't happen to me, if I start to sweat in the slightest, I stop playing immediately!😎

[@jasonstacey9460]

My tele pickups are the least of my concerns . The two trapezoid pickups in my dual pro are a bit of problem. Been trying to get them to Lollar for fixin' but life had a way of making you too broke.

[@tgsiii2179]

I've never had a neck pickup die on a Tele, Zac, and I always assumed it was because A. they have a better cover than the bridge, (obviously) and B. they're not in the same position in relation to the sweat from your picking hand as the bridge. I've long wondered about the uncovered bridge pickups on a Tele......what was Leo's thinking? Thanks, Zac.

[@AskZac]

He covered the entire bridge with a cover, and everyone took them off, except Albert Collins.....

[@iamgcase]

@@AskZac Good one, Zac! 👍

[@robamaral9089]

When ferrous metals corrode, they expand somewhat…. There is that. Think of the leaves in a transformer rusting. Not good.

[@mooseymoose]

No wonder I never had one die as I am the least sweaty person ever. Lol! Used to run 5 miles and not even get damp. Guitar Gallery is awesome, bought my acoustic from them!

[@indigoburst]

Zac, you could slap some strings and horseshoe magnets on a pool noodle and still sound great!

[@AskZac]

Thanks!

[@DrDooDah]

I don't play a Tele. I don't even like country music. But I like your channel. Nice video, Zac!

[@duster413]

Did Teles ever come from the factory with an aluminum pickguard?

[@AskZac]

The Oscar Moore Nocaster had a gold guard.

[@mikelundquist4596]

I have owned about 180 guitars since the 70s. Some old, some new. I guess about 20 were Teles. I have never had a pickup die, on anything. I didn't even know this was a thing.

[@AskZac]

It depends how much they get baked in the sun and sweat into.

[@RoadOutWest]

I have a 3 year old Am Pro Tele and the bridge pickup shows light surface rust... I'm paranoid now!

[@AskZac]

Don't be. Clean the rust off.

[@RoadOutWest]

@@AskZac Thanks. Any particular method you recommend?

[@LotharOfTheHillPeople]

I've never understood guys who get precious about their instrument. For me, it's a tool - tools wear out and need repairs. And when I see a Tele bridge pickup that's been rewound 3x, I know that guitar's got some magic because obviously somebody couldn't put the thing down!

[@guitareveryone]

Very informative episode Zac. Also did you have your amp on the floor on this episode? The reason I ask is because it sounded fuller in the low end and an overall better sound.

[@AskZac]

It was on the floor with a short stand that leans it back. Less low end loss than going on the chair in frame like I do at times.

[@guitareveryone]

@@AskZac I agree. It sounded much better. I use amp stands a lot but never liked the tone. I like the richness of the low end and less shrillness with the amp on the floor. But sometimes they’re needed in situations where it’s hard to hear what your playing due to stage volume.

[@MrBritrider]

Hey Zac, has anyone tried adding a bridge pick up cover not an ash tray but an actual cover like the neck has. What would you lose or gain by doing this. Just a thought.

[@AskZac]

Lose highs

[@ZacCostilla]

So my question is: what is the best potting material for longevity?

[@AskZac]

Epoxy?

[@Robert-un3cf]

I can't stand when I see rust on a brand new guitar to make it "old". Patina is one thing if you're into that, but chemically degrading parts is a no go for me.

[@johnroznovsky212]

Nice call out to Amy Grant as a Christian artist to your left. I have her first four albums plus live concert part 1 on vinyl.

[@AskZac]

It was also a clue to something I mentioned in the video.

[@WillyPDX94]

Great job as always. I learned a lot. ✌

[@AskZac]

Awesome, thank you!

[@PetraKann]

Telecasters appear to last forever Zac mate, but unfortunately the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics dictates that "everything" including the Universe and Tele pick ups move towards a state of disorder or chaos. Entropy I'm afraid is inescapable - even for a Tele pick up. There was a theory of eternity floating around when Keith Richards decided to play a Tele, but even here, entropy will get him in the end. We are all finished I'm afraid Zac - it's all over.

[@AskZac]

Kann!!!!!!!!!

[@pierheadjump]

⚓️ Thanks Zac 😎

[@joeldowdy404]

So would Ron Ellis recommend we just cake a bunch of cheeze-it residue all over our pickups to preserve them when playing out in the heat 🤣Good episode sir, thanks for the knowledge transfer!!

[@AskZac]

He would. I like to mix with Cheetoh dust

[@G.S.W.SewmesomeMusic]

Is an ashtray a good idea over time,and do they effect tone. Thanks👍☮️

[@AskZac]

They protect the pickup, but keep me from palm muting

[@Guitar5986]

I hope & pray that the PAF's in my '59 355 never die... That would be a very sad day indeed. Great video as always Zac

[@TeleCaster66]

That's been a worry of mine in the past..

[@AskZac]

PAF's don't seem to have the same issues that happen with Tele pickups.

[@Guitar5986]

@@AskZac That's a big relief!

[@benewgillian6823]

They can also die when people are playing slide with an open can full of beer and it starts to leak everywhere ..

[@AskZac]

Yes

[@wolfgangheinrich7019]

Good thing then that if you don't sweat much your pickups will never die

[@michaeljohnson7892]

Single coils die because it’s there time Togo to Heaven, and if they were good they get to comeback as a Humbucker with the ability to be Split or to Switch Phase, if they were bad they came back as a poorly wound P90 or worse yet a P100 …Michael Jackson & Paul McCartney said there’s good & bad in everyone, they probably subconsciously were thinking about old pick ups Not just FENDER, THOUGH MANY ARE 1950’S THRU 1960’S ANYWAYS This gives us a great reason to SHOP 1.Get some Great S. Duncan, Lawlor, or Lindy F. Or even those wonderful T.V.JONES FILTER TRON PICKUPS . 1B. ANYREASON TO HAVE/PURCHASE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF PICKUPS FOR BACKUPS TO USE WHEN EVER ONE MIGHT NEED ONE, IS A GOOD REASON . IT KEEPS THE ECONOMY WORKING ALSO.

[@copperaudio9664]

Boeshield T-9 once a month. 👼

[@SirSneakerPimp]

Zac, what is the name of the music you intro’d us with?

[@AskZac]

Rainy Night in Georgia

[@matthunting1162]

Like they say, don't leave your guitar in a place that you wouldn't want to be in!

[@mlambrechts1]

Why not use silicone isolation or is that a conductor?

[@AskZac]

It's not correct for a vintage Fender

[@mlambrechts1]

Hi Zac. I think that does not matter as long as it isolates the magnetic field. No?

[@MichaelBethke-ni6zb]

can uou talk about how to meter a pickup?

[@AskZac]

You need a multi-meter

[@b00neDawg00]

Hey Zac have you tried the fishman telecaster pickups I’m having a set put in my player telecaster and want to know what you think about it

[@AngusClarkGTR]

which is the back pickup and which is the front? Where did this naming convention coming from? I’ve always heard and said: “bridge”, “neck” and when appropriate “middle”. If its a regional thing, do you know what region and why? Thanks, Angus

[@AskZac]

Back=bridge

[@andreamarrado]

Great video. What about the magnets losing gauss? That can happen to right?

[@AskZac]

Yes it can. Especially if you leave your guitar near a speaker magnet.

[@andreamarrado]

@@AskZac can it lose just over time?

[@thejimmymeister]

@@andreamarrado You might want to check out his video from 2 weeks ago with a tour of Ron Ellis's workshop. Ellis talks a bit about degaussing and says that it's not really a concern for the average pickup. He figures most pickups that have lost gauss have been laid next to the big magnets in speakers or left in extreme weather conditions a lot.

[@andreamarrado]

@@thejimmymeister doing that now and just watched the section about Gauss! Thanks

[@michaelmenkevich5712]

Good reality check. Perhaps the tele gets the brutal treatment, being the work horse guitar. Most of the time the pickups get trashed by bad repair jobs.

[@zummo61]

Hey Zac, I have a 72 Tele with EMGs in it but I want to restore it to original. What pickups would you recommend?

[@AskZac]

A set of 60's style pickups. Ron Ellis is my fave, but they are a bit pricey. You could also check out OC Duff or Arcane

[@zummo61]

@@AskZac yikes, the Ron Ellis go for more than I paid for the Tele! The others are more in my range. THANKS!

[@MrTimcoronel]

they can also get microphonic and squealy

[@AskZac]

That usually means they need to be re potted.

[@leekthomas737]

when mum was burning all of our "rock" records in the 80s, they even burnt our Amy Grant record!

[@AskZac]

Yep

[@bouzoukiman5000]

Seems to me the pickups can be re-dipped in wax

[@AskZac]

That will help a microphonic pickup

[@louisdombrowski4198]

👍 can't thank you enough for sharing.

[@AskZac]

My pleasure!

[@mikemalone9404]

Zak, I've got a 63 Tele I've had for years, and last time I had it out, the bridge seemed weak. I just put it back in it's case then the safe. It's not one I want to take out anymore! Will it hurt the value when I do decide to have it looked at, or should I just leave it for the next owner to deal with? I'm getting older and have done dealt with cancer once, so I now look at it as a little nest egg....Thanks, Enjoy your channel!

[@AskZac]

If purely for value, you may want to leave it alone.

[@Johngonefishin]

Rumor is that some 63' Tele bridge pu's were accidentally wound to the spec of a P-Bass pu, and were a lot hotter than normal. Certain players like Brad Paisley seek out the 63's for their enhanced sound.

[@steverhenius6734]

How does metering high =shorting out ? Wouldn’t that cause low or no resistance ?

[@AskZac]

This is where I need ask a friend....

[@TucsonBillD]

Simple, Zac… High resistance suggests a break (or a thinner wire) while low resistance implies a short. Both happen.