Why Vito Corleone Never Trusted Hyman Roth?

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Күн бұрын

In the epic crime saga, The Godfather Part II, a pivotal line reveals the complicated relationship between the powerful Don Vito Corleone and his business rival, Hyman Roth. Frank Pentangeli utters a telling phrase: "Your father did business with Hyman Roth; he respected Hyman Roth, but he never trusted Hyman Roth."
How could the sharp and all-knowing Vito, who embodied strength and good judgment, respect a man he purposely refused to trust fully?

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@thomasa8814 Ай бұрын

Roth giving that speech about letting it go exposed him. He never let it go. He was still pissed about it and that single burst of emotion really showed Michael the evidence he needed to move against him finally

@JohnMoog-ug6bk 6 ай бұрын

Vito spreads the wealth, Roth always makes money for his partners, Fanucci was an old-fashioned mustache Pete, Roth is a modern financier, so I don’t get those points. The main reason why Roth can’t be trusted is he does business with all the families, hence has loyalty to none. That’s a consequence of the fact that that he can’t be made. “Real greaseball shit.”

@dianeamaral8151 6 ай бұрын

Ha Ha ha 😂

@peterkalyabe7553 5 ай бұрын

I don't get these "points" either....a bit far fetched

@ZDiddy7777 2 ай бұрын

Fanucci was just a con man, any comparison between he and an actual gangster is nonsensical

@followerofchrist3125 Ай бұрын

@@totallybored5526He could still be a Jewish mobster though, have you seen the film Once Upon A Time in America (1984)?

@RuthEsther-nn6qe 2 ай бұрын

Hyman Roth had hate towards Michael for killing Moe Green. That was obvious. 😢

@marccram6584 Ай бұрын

Yes .. the killing of Moe Greene was unjust and was outside the Sicilian business of the Five Families.

@RuthEsther-nn6qe Ай бұрын

@@marccram6584 I disagree with you. Moe had to go. He was talking trash to Michael, would not do business with Michael even though the casino was losing money. Michael made Moe an offer, and Moe refused it pretty much like the movie guy with the horse head in his bed. Plus he was basically bragging about slapping Fredo around. Who does this. He was a pompous, arrogant, jerk. Moe had to go, with his glasses on.

@Paul-vf2wl Ай бұрын

@@RuthEsther-nn6qe Moe may have had to go but Michael didn't get permission.

@RuthEsther-nn6qe Ай бұрын

@Paul-vf2wl Well Paulie (I'm turning your name Italian😃), Mike didn't need permission as he took out ALL the heads of the mafia families. Plus he got rid of Moe's butt licking buddy brother FREDO. Best of all he cured that rodent Hyman Roth of that heart ❤️ attack he's been having for 20 years permanently. I'm 😞 sorry. Gotta go. I'm thinking about Tessio and Sollozo and starting to drool (both so handsome). The Godfather is an addictive Classic. Should be a college course. And remember Fredo's words-im not dumb, I'm smart, and I was passed over🤨😒😔😱😵🥹😥

@followerofchrist3125 Ай бұрын

@@RuthEsther-nn6qeI think the reason Mike actually wanted him added to his hit list was because he was doing business with Barzini who had Sonny killed, was chipping away at Clemenza and Tessio’s territory and was waiting for the Don to die to get rid of Michael. Plus they wanted his casino. 😂

@arshadali2312 Ай бұрын

How could a Sicilian trust a Jew? Recall that the Corleones didn't trust Moe Greene either, who they suspected was "skimming off the top" from the casino revenue. On a side note, and unrelated to this discussion, recall that Meyer Lansky had to okay the hit on Bugsy Siegel. So much for loyalty among people of the same tribe ....

@1987AnimeBoy Ай бұрын

@@arshadali2312 I recall some sayings that Lansky kept defending Siegel to the end, until Luciano had to tell him that Siegel had practically exhausted all their trust in him that Lansky reluctantly gave in.

@arshadali2312 Ай бұрын

@@1987AnimeBoy Yes, you're absolutely right. Lansky was cornered and had to give his reluctant acquiescence.

@seanfaherty Ай бұрын

@@arshadali2312 Luciano trusted Lansky

@CollaredConsulting Ай бұрын

Prescient

@conniemclaughlin3156 Ай бұрын

@@arshadali2312 sicilians will skim off the top too. trust no one but Jesus.

@dianeamaral8151 6 ай бұрын

These movies are so exciting it's why I have watched them so many times lol

@Clokes_ 4 ай бұрын

The Jewish gangsters had no code of loyalty unlike the Italian mob. Check out how ruthless and unappealing they are in the movie Once Upon a Time in America.

@pirobot668beta Ай бұрын

Loyal only to payday.

@johnc4035 Ай бұрын

Any you came to this conclusion based on what facts?

@brianmiller4207 Ай бұрын

Hells kitchen is in the west 50's and was all Irish. Vito and his ilk, all lived in Little Italy, which is way downtown, between Canal St. and Houston.

@tisuksp3191 Ай бұрын

@@brianmiller4207 in the book it says it was hells kitchen by the railroad which in fact there is a railway nearby later on years after it became a mix of irish and puerto rican and italians

@karlmeyer9473 20 күн бұрын

@@brianmiller4207 So where was the division between the Bogtrotters and the Spaghetti Munchers??

@aisle_of_view Ай бұрын

Johnny Ola is Uncle Junior

@tobeyny27 28 күн бұрын

Fuck ya want, a boutonnière?

@craigjovanovich6450 Ай бұрын

This is one of the best, most eloquently detailed analysis of Roth.

@dianeamaral8151 6 ай бұрын

I have watched both movies one hundred times i loved the movies ❤❤

@karlmeyer9473 20 күн бұрын

Exactly 100 times or approximately?

@dianeamaral8151 20 күн бұрын

@@karlmeyer9473 approximately lol lolol I love Al Pacheco so much

@erics362 6 ай бұрын

Johnny Ola never had the makings of a varsity mobster...small hands.

@ZDiddy7777 2 ай бұрын

We are aware Fanucci wasnt an actual gangster and only a con man, right?

@Luke8-17 Ай бұрын

In the book the Don said nothing is business, everything is personal! And the horses head in Jack Woltz was more him doing little girls more than for Johnny.

@Lenzo_408 Ай бұрын

There should have been some dialogue with Vito and Roth in the movie

@michaelmaynard58 Ай бұрын

Roth “forced” Vito to use his olive oil trucks to deliver bootlegged booze. Vito didn’t understand why threats were used when there was such profits to be had.

@ascendant95 Ай бұрын

I'm sure Meyer Lansky loved watching his portrayal as Hyman Roth in his 450 square foot apartment in the Jewish ghetto in Miami Beach back when Miami Beach was a dump. Meyer Lansky was broke and on a fixed income the last 30 years of his life. $300 million? Some months back then he only had $300.

@Ekleaz Ай бұрын

If you truly believe he died broke I have beachfront property in Kansas to sell you. That guy was loaded he just figured out a way to make sure it was passed on

@ascendant95 Ай бұрын

@@Ekleaz He wasn't living in a modest 3 bedroom ranch house on a tree lined street. He was living in a 450 square foot apartment in the Jewish ghetto. He was wearing clothes that were decades old. He had no connections. He lived his last 30 years broke in a Jewish ghetto. The FBI has confirmed it. Wiseguys who became rats have confirmed it in interviews (Philip Leonetti). Without Luciano he was nothing.

@1987AnimeBoy Ай бұрын

Is that like what Hyman Roth told the reporters, "I'm a retired investor living on a pension"?

@ascendant95 Ай бұрын

@@1987AnimeBoy All of that could apply to Meyer in his last 30 years in Miami....................except for the "investor" part. He was on a fixed income that was very low.

@ascendant95 Ай бұрын

@@1987AnimeBoy That bigger than U.S. Steel comment...................that was Meyer on a FBI recording. He said it to his wife after they watched some 60 Minutes type of story on "The Mafia". Sitting in their dingy recliner chairs side by side in a hot, humid 450 square foot apartment. In a building where everyone wears Yarmukles.

@AyoHAD 9 күн бұрын

respect and trust are two different things

@erics362 6 ай бұрын

Will the ✡️ take down this video as hate speech?

@freddyelder85 Ай бұрын

You better believe it

@tye1939 18 күн бұрын

@@erics362 lmao 😂 I wouldn’t even be surprised if they did, especially given this current climate.

@freddyelder85 Ай бұрын

Even the Don knew not to trust a jew

@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime Ай бұрын

Analyzing these characters doesn’t really make sense, because they are fictional. But I find myself doing it too.😅

@STONESGAM Ай бұрын

Roth had power because of his earning ability and making money for the other families. But Pantangelli probably knew, as well as Vito, that he was conniving and pulling strings from behind the scenes and his outward persona of being this kindly old businessman and mentor to new boss Young Michael was all BS as it was.

@pirobot668beta Ай бұрын

Sometimes the only trust you have in the other party is that they will behave in predictable ways. Roth was business first, this is true. Vito knew not to push Roth into a corner, always give him a way to save face. It's possible to respect men you could never trust...

@contemposuits1983 Ай бұрын

There is a lot of bigotry in the comments.

@cerahjoselet7423 25 күн бұрын

@@contemposuits1983 hating on marginalized communities (from within yet other marginalized communities) is big business, esp socially. i like how the godfather movies just show it - even santino is bigoted to hell, and vito had the patriarchy bug big time as well as being an unquestioning antisemite.

@cerahjoselet7423 25 күн бұрын

oh, also - note how every slur aimed at Italians actually targets the Romani community, the historical punching bag of most of established europe since rome was in one piece.

@David-yw2lv Ай бұрын

Toth came across as a smarmy creep from his first appearance.

@realmdma Ай бұрын

Strength is spelled with th at the end not ht lol

@brooksfleming7643 Ай бұрын

Because of Moe Greene.

@1439315 5 ай бұрын

Way too many details.

@Ryman158 Ай бұрын

How could a guy respect someone but not trust them? Huh? Very strange analysis

@LeopoldoNotarianni-rk9vv 15 күн бұрын

I see the logic

@RealBallsofSteel 7 күн бұрын

I've respected people I didn't trust, liked people and sometimes even loved people I didn't trust. They can be separate.

@themaddogofcrenshaw7367 Ай бұрын

I think it's simply the prejudices of old school Sicilians. He didn't trust Roth because he was Jewish and not Sicilian. Same way he didn't Carlo because he was only half Italian and northern Italian at that. Sicilians have always been portrayed as preferring to only deal with each other

@FrostyGerardo-kr7xs Ай бұрын

@@themaddogofcrenshaw7367 I understand Michael. I seen Gaza victims. Now I'm reluctant to deal with Jews. Because I don't want to help those crimes

@davidbrown4540 6 ай бұрын

1) Frankie is kinda Anti-Semitic. Although he's probably hardly the only guy in organized crime at this period in time who feels this way. 2) He's drunk and he's upset. Therefore he's liable to say anything. 3) In general, the word "trust" in Organized Crime is a VERY flexible thing. I mean, the guy who's been your best bud since grade school might get ordered to whack you the next day. Nobody can ever really "trust" anyone. However, at the end of the day, Roth is at least trusted enough to keep doing what he's been doing all these years. He makes people money. He doesn't blab. He keeps his head down living in a simple house in Miami. From what we're presented with he's appears to be a "good guy", although he's obviously a little pissed off about his man getting whacked

@darkshamrock1980 Ай бұрын

The old saying: "I don't trust so-and-so. But I trust so-and-so to be so-and-so."

@freddyelder85 Ай бұрын

The truth happens to be anti-Semitic too

@HARRIS2820 29 күн бұрын

@@davidbrown4540 anti semetic is such a gay saying ...