Why Was Spanish Baroque So Intense? | Baroque! | Absolute History

[@robotxul]

Waldemar, the music and amazing art, I love this, these art docs are the best, thank you Absolute History.

[@MrRockUaLL]

you should subscribe to Perspective

[@Remtech7]

Waldemar, or the total mastery of a subject presented with verve, humor, and a keen sense of criticism !

[@danone2414]

As Spanish myself I approve. This is well documented

[@s.durbar1294]

what's the Spanish word for "person who believes anything they watch that trashes whatever idea/group they have disillusionment towards"?

[@victor382]

@@s.durbar1294 borrego 🐏

[@EMMASAUDIOS]

It really is not :(

[@elirien4264]

I thought Baroque meant you had no Monet... heh....I'll see myself out....

[@iamkalixa]

😂😂

[@Thenoobestgirl]

The acting in the first minute is just 😘👌 *superb* 🤭

[@margaretbanksviroga9104]

Really great presentation, as always! Quick addition, however. You seem confused as to how Spain "owned" Belgium. Pretty simple, really. Ferdinand and Isabella's daughter, Juana, married Phillip "the Fair" of Flanders, of the House of Hapsburg. By a strange turn of events, Juana became heir to the crowns of both Castille and Aragon. Long story short, her son, King Charles I of Spain, inherited the title of Holy Roman Emperor on the death of his paternal grandfather, Maximilian, and all the lands with it (which went well beyond Belgium). And that is how the House of Hapsburg (the Austrias, as we call them) came to rule Spain and much of Europe. Btw, "Flamenco" is Spanish for "Flemish". 😉

[@sedumreflexum5295]

how he just roasts the Habsburgs throughout the whole series 😂

[@chieromancer]

A couple of corrections on Las Meninas. Velasquez is painting the scene while looking in a mirror. The canvas he is painting is Las Meninas itself. The painting is a revolutionary because of several things. Rather than being a conventional, stiffly posed portrait, he captured movement, a moment in time, like a snap shot. They are looking at a mirror, but they are also looking at us, the viewer, through the veil of time. Using a mirror makes the painting as much like a 3D image as a 2D image can get. It's like a Hologram put on canvas. Furthermore, Velasquez putting himself in the painting was only done a couple times before, and not so prominently. It's an indication of how respected Velasquez was by the King. Then putting the King and Queen in a blurry image in the back of the painting in the mirror, would have gotten any other painter in big trouble. Las Meninas is revolutionary, brilliant, and unequaled in history. I hope one day to see it in person. And Maria Bárbola was from Austria.

[@kaisersozay99]

Brilliant waldemar as usual

[@Sweettweety666]

Baroque is very metal! \m/

[@victor382]

Belgium formerly called Spanish Netherlands formed part of the Spanish empire because this territory was part of a larger one called Duchy of Burgundy. The duke of Burgundy, Charles the Bold, died with only his daughter Mary as heir. Mary married the son of the Holy Roman Emperor, Archduke Maximilian Habsburg. Duchess Mary unfortunately died at 25 in a horse riding accident, and her son Philip, became the new duke of Burgundy at age 4. Archduke Maximilian later in life took his father’s office and became Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor. The emperor arranged the marriage of his son, duke Philip of Burgundy, to a Spanish Infanta, Joanna of Castile and Aragon, daughter of the famous Catholic Monarchs, Ferdinand and Isabella. They subsidized Christopher Columbus in his voyage to the west, discovering America in the process. Both Ferdinand and Isabella had older children to Joanna, a daughter and a son, but both died before their parents, and so did their children, making Joanna the new heir to the Spanish kingdoms. Joanna, now heir to the crowns of Castile and Aragon and Philip duke of Burgundy and son of the HRE, had a son and heir named Charles. Then they became queen and king of Castile, after queen Isabella died, and heirs to the crown of Aragon, which conquered both the kingdoms of Navarre and Naples in southern Italy, with the armies of Castile. Soon after becoming king consort of Castile, duke Philip of Burgundy, natural lord of what is today Belgium died. Making his son Charles the next duke of Burgundy. Unfortunately for Charles he was just a child. So his grampa the emperor Maximilian educated him and governed the duchy of burgundy until he reached a majority. His mother was unfortunately mentally unstable, she was called Joanna the Mad, and her father Ferdinand of Aragon took over ruling Castile and finishing the conquest of Navarre and Naples I mention earlier. Then king Ferdinand died when young Charles had just reached his majority, and since his mother was still considered not capable of ruling, he became king of both kingdoms jure matris, through his mother. Later he became emperor of the Holy Roman Empire once grampa Maximilian died, and became even more powerful. When emperor / king / duke Charles married, he married his cousin the oldest daughter of the king of Portugal, infanta Isabella. They had a son and heir named Philip. After reigning for 40 years, emperor king duke Charles divided his territory, his Spanish inheritance and the dukedom of Burgundy went to his son, and his imperial title to his brother the disputed king of Hungary, Ferdinand. Charles died a year later. King and duke Philip, son of emperor king duke Charles, as his father, became duke of Burgundy, and ruler of proto Belgium. Then after him his son and his grandson and his great grandson. So that my friends is how proto Belgium became part of the Spanish empire. Through inheritance.

[@TM-yj6xi]

Hello, could you post all the musical pieces that you used for this video?

[@blas5i]

Everything Waldemar, is the best. Her has never made anything bad. Even if you are not interested in art - You will be after seing a video of his !

[@WingedWheelArt]

02:36 what feast is this celebration?

[@alitisa2786]

They couldn’t say GraTSias probably because there is no TS in Spanish and it’s indeed Gracias….I’m so disappointed in this shallow piece…

[@NachaBeez]

And I loved that the whole thing started out on the pilgrimage route to Santiago de “Compostelo” 🤦‍♂️

[@juliabazanska]

He's referring to the lisping of the sound, as in a sharp "ss" sound vs. a soft "th" sound.

[@gic8849]

My family is Italian, we are deeply rooted Napolese, which was a Spanish colony hundreds of years ago. Coupled with the Roman’s doing what they did..my dna is completely out of control lol 47% Italian and the rest is a mix of Spanish/Portuguese, African, and Asian. My mom threw in some French, Irish and Dutch. I’ve been told I look exotic more times than I can count..been asked about my mix hundreds of times. It always confused me. I’m Italian 🤷🏻‍♀️ ..until 23 and me made it all make sense lol ancient times were wild

[@nualafuller7223]

OMG!Vl I tend to play solitario [cards] while watching your show and you just cracked me up laughing with the description of Rubins liking for the size 16eeners who pop his pips,squeeze his...brilliant!

[@mavissalus7610]

😊. 😊

[@chozopriest1]

I will say I take issue with phrasing (yes Archer joke but different phrasing, lol). Vasquez could in fact be the first Jewish artist. What?! Dude, what?! Lol

[@erin4033]

Yeah if they converted to catholicism, wouldn't that not make him a Jewish painter?

[@margaretbanksviroga9104]

You mean "Velasquez". Not Vasquez. Right? 😉

[@gisela1477]

Well, if I ever thought that the Black Legend narrative was an exaggeration...you really proved me wrong. The historical inaccuracies, the plain lies, the mispronounced names, the vias of the script... It really is the Netflix of history, but in all the wrong ways!

[@dyskelia]

He shouldn’t be allowed to comment on souther European art lol

[@Smoug]

im curious to know what you mean with the bias of the script

[@audreymuzingo933]

Can you give any examples of inaccuracies and lies?

[@miguelsaavedramaresca4126]

​@@audreymuzingo933 The whole documentary. You can't take seriously a documentary that claims to be serious and dares to claim that we Spaniards have the z and c sound because the Habsburgs had a deformity in their jaw. What's wrong that you English also now you were ruled by this family? Because you also make the th sound.

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@miguelsaavedramaresca4126 Oh, I'm English am I? I only asked a question. Calm yourself down.

[@e.p.649]

This " documentary" it's so full of mistakes not only in names but concepts that makes me think that you can't trust this channel or any of their " documentaries". I thought it was serious until I saw something like this which I know about it and see how unprofesional it's all. Unfollow. Not right information.

[@audreymuzingo933]

Yet another complainer who gives no examples.

[@e.p.649]

@@audreymuzingo933 If you want long and well argued examples that would take me hours to write, go and find some Spanish Art and History books and educate yourself. I'm Spanish, I studied Art and History of these period, among other things, I have seen the works of Art themselves... and this " documentary" it's a joke.

[@MrAdryan1603]

I love how you say their names lmao, Maria BALOVAAA

[@handleonafridge6828]

A lot of people are saying this is a bad documentary, but I wouldn’t know, I’m just here to look at cool buildings

[@juliabazanska]

My word Waldemar has offended a lot of Spaniards who can't Google what an old wives' tale is, don't understand hyperbole and who get their knickers in a twist over pronunciation.

[@chieromancer]

More corrections. Charles II was not the only surviving son of Philip IV. He was the only legitimate son. Philip had between 20 and 30 illegitimate children. One he recognized and appointed his heir, Juan José de Austria. It led to the Spanish War of Succession.

[@lamarhenderson8058]

What's the music playing during the section in the square in Brussels?

[@thecobaltroom]

And I knew that: " the Baroque style began at the start of the 17th century in Rome, then spread rapidly to France, northern Italy, Spain, and Portugal, then to Austria, southern Germany, and Russia. By the 1730s, it had evolved into an even more flamboyant style, called rocaille or Rococo, which appeared in France and Central Europe until the mid to late 18th century. The first building in Rome to have a Baroque facade was the Church of the Gesù in 1584 while for the Spanish the first major work in this style was the San Isidro Chapel in Madrid, begun in 1643 by Pedro de la Torre." Oh well, what do I know what to read :)

[@s.durbar1294]

I came here with open ears, eyes and an open mind... I leave worried for what the team behind this man deem a decent documentary.

[@Smoug]

why?

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@Smoug What is up with all the VAGUE, zero examples criticism in this comment section???

[@joavim]

Agree. This is dreadful.

[@666chapelofblood]

Who does the soundtracks to these?

[@redpetallady]

I like how theatrical he explained everything

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

tThank you.

[@liu6740]

What I got out of this is that Baroque is the Catholic version of Goth

[@TheAnemarie]

Santiago de Compostela

[@klyanadkmorr]

What about the JESUITS

[@c.c.7687]

The Jesuits probably always hated Spain. Too many actual, sincere Catholics there. They only like the pretenders.

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@c.c.7687 lol, I'm historical curious not making up silly accusations when they all were fake and into helping the destruction of the Americas natives that was SINcere Catholicism back then.

[@666chapelofblood]

54:40 broccoli.

[@JuanSebastianTorresFigueroa]

cool bro

[@starkilr101]

I love this

[@travelingman4983]

People need to turn their spellcheck back on👍👍👍👍😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

So many incorrect and gratuitous digs at the Habsburgs and the Spanish really lower the level of this documentary. The Black Legend at his worst.

[@dyskelia]

Totally agree. After watching all his docs, it’s clear that he has a disdain for Southern Europe in general. Like when he did that series on the Renaissance and the whole premise was that the northern Renaissance was better than the Italian…better than DaVinci. Lol ok….sure 🙄

[@alinabushong3724]

Once started to watch a doc of his on Rococo. He started by arguing the American Declaration of Independence was a rococo doc. Turned it off then. Just because it happened at the same time doesn’t mean it’s the same philosophy. How does this guy get a huge run of shows?

[@NachaBeez]

And the whole thing started off with him walking down the pilgrimage route to Santiago de “Compostelo” 😒

[@resatlantica]

And we might supose all hispanic peoples a band of obscure machoes usefull for nothig but to serve a violent and melancholic lusty morale

[@Stellaaahhh]

😮 say on!

[@melo7591]

Rubens is my type of guy lol…. he likes em thick just like me 😅😂

[@amberinthebox4462]

THAT ONE WITH THE BIG CAST IS SOOO GOOD. The only people that are nice to look at

[@marniethethief2574]

is this guy an art historian?, I believe he skipped some classes... He is funny thought! entertaining! thanks

[@audreymuzingo933]

Why do you believe that?

[@Bococha]

Easy to say without pointing out what classes you say he left out.

[@momma_bat]

All I could hear was broccoli 😂

[@GTMemes2]

Same reason we all go broke That spent to much money 😂

[@GranSinderesis]

Napoles a colony? So Hannover was a colony of Britain?

[@danmur2797]

The Spanish didn't exactly have colonies the way the British did. The British sent prisoners and persecuted religious Protestant sects to its colonies. The Spanish often sent members of the nobility including extended family members of the Spanish royal family. Many of the early conquistadors were a part of such nobility. The Spanish established viceroyalties in Europe and the Americas which were more closely akin to another kingdom of the unified Spanish Empire. In theory anyway they held a similar position to Castile, Navarre, Leon, etc. In practice they held a lot of economic power, perhaps more than most of the kingdoms within the Iberian peninsula. Southern Italy had a viceroy same as the Viceroyalty of New Spain (modern Mexico), Viceroyalty of Peru, and so on. In fact sometimes the viceroys were transferred among the viceroyalties at one point overseeing New Spain then a few years later transferred to Southern Italy. The daughter of one of the Spanish viceroys in southern Italy became the wife of a Medici heir in northern Italy. The Medicis were trying to strengthen their position in Europe by marrying into what was Spanish crown aligned. The Medici and Spanish marriage produced children whose heirs eventually came to rule over every major European royal house, including in the Italian states, Austria, Spain, Portugal, England, the German states, the Scandinavian states, and France. Marie Antoinette was such a descendant of the Medici-Spanish viceroy marriage match.

[@s.d.357]

💜Waldemar!

[@stevenmathieson5713]

46:00

[@daisymay9792]

The information was fun, but was not professional.

[@Bococha]

You didn't like his sandals? oh, you picky one.

[@carlosdiaz2688]

I Grew up in as Baroque Building In the Caribbean for a While That style Catches Spirits of The Dead and Poltergeist level Stuff I’m sorry but some of the stuff Is Real .. Ha ha

[@sachseco]

I know that all English people have a problem with foreign words but narrator, you should at least try! The maps are such a mish-mosh that only you can read them. Also, it' BAROQUE, LONG LETTER O, not barock like rock music!

[@ruthsteen6943]

He's pronouncing baroque correctly for British English.

[@Kolious_Thrace]

0:43 Naples was a Spanish colony? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Naples was a Hellenic🇬🇷 colony! The city was founded by Hellenes and it was named Νεάπολις/Neàpolis. Later it became Napoli in Italian.

[@NachaBeez]

The Kingdom of Naples was under Spanish (Aragonese) control for 200 years, from about 1504 to 1714. This was really not hard to Google.

[@sanlkar]

No hace falta ser endogamico para ser feo y tonto, el presentador es claro ejemplo de ello. P.D: El imperio español no fue un regalo de Dios, fue construido gracias al esfuerzo, valentía y capacidad del pueblo español. El imperio britanico no puede decir lo mismo.

[@amberinthebox4462]

When I see people in Spain and it looks so desolate and dry...it make sense that they have such intense art and movement in their spiritual culture

[@gisela1477]

Spain has 6 different climate zones in it, from continental to subtropical, so I don't even know what you are talking about...

[@e.p.649]

Desolate and dry? You really don't know Spain nor their people.

[@solotraveller888]

Have you even been to Spain? Maybe you went to Morocco.😅

[@lisar9425]

The Larch

[@joaquinboscheseverri9159]

Spain did not have any colonies

[@heather-vs9qe]

Represents an angel l don't think so not impressed, with all that in breeding, and they surpose to be catholic, sounds twisted to me, and very confusing.

[@oksanatulpa7984]

Because according to the jewish myths the tribe of Zebelun had reached the opposite coast of Mediterranian sea . And the fist kingdom in Europe had their blessing . But now jews had deleted this information from wiki . the tribe of Zebelun were responsible for sea trade and shells that produced color for priests cloths . Baroqe - is irregerular pearl from French , and almost a "sea style " But the problem with the tribe that they belive that the only Bethlehem is of Galilee (Beit lahm, seven miles northwest of Nazareth).

[@rossanomacchioni7746]

The Spain painting in Baroque periode was Very Good , and Beauty but Architecture Baroque Is Not comparabile of true italian Origin. Is strange imitation. In rest of Europe italian baroque was misunderstood.

[@vgrg7841]

Terrible host narrator

[@dorisleyba5962]

...the Flat Earthers have proven that said baroque can and are in other places on the globe

[@lisar9425]

The first Jewish artist? Wow, I didn’t know that. I thought Jesus was.