Why We Need To Talk About The Michigan Five...

[@PhilipDeFranco]

I know some of you are going to leave after this show, but I refuse to be PC on certain/most things and if that means this is goodbye, I'll see ya around sometime soon, maybe, probably not, but hey... kkbye.

[@bebejerome29]

hi phil have a nice day :)

[@hansolo3154]

Don't apologize Phil, be yourself. If they wanted to see PC they can go on NBC or CNN

[@nikkin7405]

Philip DeFranco staying always no matter what

[@pg21justus-46]

Philip DeFranco Don't worry, I'm staying. Need to keep your usual Non partisan view.

[@Garling18]

Philip DeFranco if anything you've only made me want to stay honesty in media whether they're mainstream or alternative is truly a diamond in the rough

[@cadenza23]

I live in Michigan. I’ve driven under that overpass hundreds of times if not thousands. Horrifying. Those delinquents don’t belong in society. Life in prison is too good for them.

[@BreanneMaria]

Arun Mangrulkar omg ikr

[@EiriniYT]

Arun Mangrulkar Same Here, I just wish people like these didn't exist. Just because they're teenagers means nothing.

[@zaniityy]

Same it is so just horrible that hit wasn’t even the driver

[@learnmore8313]

I went the school with all of them and I knew 4 of them pretty well and I can tell you that this was the only time that they had done anything like this and that they are not terrible people.

[@XDarkRaptureXPSNGaming]

Couldn't agree more. While they may not have MEANT to kill someone, they did and they showed intent to damage property. Slightly off topic, "Michigan Five" sounded like and reminded me of the "Elkhart Four".

[@yehudabuff5139]

I am 15 years old, and I think that the Michigan Five need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I have never met a person my age that didn't understand what the consequences are for his/her actions. They knew their actions could lead to damage, and they decided to continue with their boulder throwing with the risk of hurting some one. They are not 2 year olds.

[@lintlickers]

Yehuda Buff kid

[@jennym007]

Yehuda Buff Well said!

[@trye11]

I have met many many many people who don’t understand the consequences for their actions especially in my earlier years of highschool

[@LazyPixcell]

Guys like these just triggers the rage out of me! Those kids are just as worse as bullies if not more. They have care or conscience about their action.

[@RyanMarc12]

Yehuda Buff At 4 Years old even then you would know that can give you a lot of big boo-boos and need a lot of kisses, but serious they should be trialled as adults and also I'm 15 and I look like I'm 10 compared to them lol

[@AliceInChains.]

These guys knew exactly what they were doing and are old enough to understand how dangerous their actions were. A man lost his life, a father and husband on his way home from work. They should receive the maximum adult sentence.

[@WeirdSeagul]

give them 20~ years each. all of them lose the most important part of their life.

[@HelloChief117]

Exactly. They're an average of 16 years old. They're not toddlers. I'd say that it's good that they were caught because they're clearly not ready to get into the real world when they're acting like they're five years behind their actual age. It's just sad that it had to happen at the expense of a man's life.

[@usernameaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Philip DeFranco no one likes you

[@benodell7906]

Uhh, are you from the 19th century? Their frontal cortex's aren't fully developed yet; they won't be until around age 24. Until then, according to what we now know about the human brain, they will have impaired judgement and critical thinking. This by no means make what they did okay, but it's important for people to recognize that (by the standard of an average adult brain) they lack the full capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.

[@AB-ts3kl]

Marie Zombiie And this is not the first time somebody has died from people throwing rocks from an overpass!

[@spacechimp3199]

The 15 year olds look older than the others wtf

[@cooliipie]

Hexa Right

[@Zeddy_1]

Hexa yeah

[@9929kingfish]

Hexa wrong

[@jordanlevitt1638]

they work out, the others clearly don't lmao

[@AndWeDanceVlog]

This is disgusting.. Absolutely make an example. The fact that we are on the Road all of the time with our children, sickens me that this could be anyone of us. wow.

[@vargrhelsing8042]

I dont think these kids would learning anything from it. Its youth. Toxic youth.

[@vargrhelsing8042]

And then there is the adult...

[@AndWeDanceVlog]

transcendtient absolutely

[@saltymelon7641]

Vargr Helsing making an example means a big sentence so yea they would learn something.

[@user-tu1jb3yl2c]

transcendtient When I was like 7 we had these little lava rocks in our yard and I would throw them in the road for cars to run over because I thought it made cool sounds and designs on the pavement when cars ran them over, my mom caught me and wow I still remember the punishments on that one! Never did it again though.

[@ItMeSar]

As someone who knows Kyle Anger, I'm not surprised. Through school he was terrible. Picked on kids, destroyed school property, constantly suspended. I'm by no means saying it's justified - I hope they are punished accordingly. Scary part for me is that I had gone under the overpass of Mt Morris road on I-75 twice that night on my motorcycle. Scary to think that had it been at the wrong times, I'd be dead too. Condolences to everyone affected by this.

[@Popmanpraise]

Damn. Small world.

[@Skadongle]

SarinationX I hope they get life. My mom drives on I-75 everyday to go to work. They should rot in jail

[@xiii0722]

Really thank you for sharing. Really appreciate your viewpoint and experiences!

[@treebark8156]

Apparently he took his last name too literally.

[@PurpleThunder7]

I may live in Fl but I-75 is still my baby. Lock em up and throw the key off a bridge.

[@robertbrunner847]

A part of me thinks "Man 15? that's so young for life behind bars", but then I consider that the guy they killed was only 32. His parents are more than likely still alive at this point, and now they have to bury their own child due to horrific and unnecessary act of violence. These kids will probably not serve life in prison (especially if they take a plea deal), and their parents will still be able to visit them in prison. Their lives may be figuratively 'over', but White's life is LITERALLY over. He's gone, forever. His parents will never ever be able to see him again, if he has wife, she'll never be able see him again, and if he has a kid, that kid just lost their father for no reason. So i'm sure some news organization will cry over how these kids lives are 'ruined forever' over just a 'simple mistake'. However, they can bounce back from this, maybe not for a few decades, but they might not get life. So somewhere down the line, they just might be a couple of free old, wrinkly ex-cons. White, however, can't bounce back, he can't do anything. So, fuck those kids, hope they rot.

[@williamhayes2077]

Robert Brunner exactly

[@Topazalmond]

Robert Brunner well said!

[@ervinb7485]

Robert Brunner Dave Chappell has that bit “how old is 15 really” and it’s really interesting, and funny too obviously

[@trever149]

Kenneth White had four children; Kaleigh, Tristan, Junior, and Ace. The "Michigan Five's" actions could have taken more than just Kenneth's life and they were so unbothered by it that they went out to eat afterward. I have no sympathy for them. Each one of them deserves a life sentence.

[@alexandriatesch1371]

What so many people don’t seem to grasp about the Michigan Five is that 17 year olds are not that stupid. I think if age plays into it at all, it’s more about believing that you can get away with anything and also a certain amount of nihilism that many people in my generation seem to hold. It is not about a lack of thinking or just not knowing any better. Nobody seriously thinks that dropping a 20 lb rock into oncoming traffic can’t break a window and at least cause an accident if not a fatality.

[@NightStar787]

You overestimate the intelligence of a 17 year old. Actually I've met people in their 30s who for some fucking reason actually think the clouds are made from cotton candy and chocolate milk comes from brown cows.

[@carcasses5131]

Thats ridiculous, its not that the consequences of dropping a damn boulder on a car didn't occur to the boys, they simply didn't care. Let them decay in the cages they belong in.

[@miriam9419]

Yes, I agree. You said that beautifully

[@XiaolinDraconis]

I was in their shoes, I did what they've done. I never once thought I was going to maim someone, ding their car sure, and I admit that was dickholish in itself. Then one day a rock went through a window and took someone's eye out, I was never caught and I never did anything that stupid again. I still feel terrible about it 20 years later.

[@GTRRSS]

Alexandria Tesch Aren't u like 5

[@renovasquez5589]

People that sexually assault children are horrible specially if they did it to multiple victims they ruin the life of others and there isn’t big a enough punishment i feel except death for those individuals.

[@werewolfcrush2131]

Reno Vasquez same

[@symphonychakma8988]

Castration and then death are two great steps that can be taken too!

[@85Esparta]

but death is an easy way out, like no punishment at all compared to what they did.

[@Omgitssoup]

Reno Vasquez too bad Michigan does not have a death penalty

[@notmyselfusee]

Especially when you consider that he had aids too and could have given it to any of these kids.

[@DanJen]

If I wanted PC I'd be watching something else. Hearing real opinions is refreshing and entertaining. The world is an offensive place. Shit happens, people do horrible things, people die. Keep it up Phil. Loyal viewers are far more valuable anyway.

[@marye3974]

Dan & Jen Nevada exactly! We need more real and honest opinions, not what people think the masses want to hear. The truth needs to become important again, not just a lot of yakking to appease unrealistic people.

[@dannyscatpack9947]

Need facts not feelings. Love the channel!

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

Cheering on the advocating of cruel & unusual punishment is why you don't have a law degree.

[@cyborgdragon9347]

you are very correct my friend

[@nfzeta128]

I agree, I especially like debates in general. The only time opinions 'upset' me is when they are so baseless, unreasonable (even if the reason is based on emotion) that the person in question just can't even talk about or listen to other opinions about it. Phil has his strong opinion on paedophiles and while I may not agree on the extremes of the punishments I can definitely respect and understand that opinion and he's not afraid or shy about verbally pronouncing or defending it. He also doesn't deny where it stems from either.

[@FAILURE7X]

I'm 24 and still do some pretty stupid shit but even at 15 (if not younger) you know people could die from throwing big ass rocks into traffic. There's no excuse. I agree with you that an example needs to be set.

[@MultiArtartart]

failure 7X but you at 15 sometimes just don't think about that you can kill someone, you think about that "rock fun"

[@LordVader1094]

Yeah there's a difference between acting stupid and making mistakes and THROWING GIANT ROCKS DOWN AT CARS.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

The difference between a 7 year old dropping things onto oncoming cars is that they might not mean harm, they're thinking about how cool it would be to see something splatter or get hit by a vehicle. At a young age it's easy to see cars as being indestructible and that what's going to happen is similar to how it would react in a video game. This is not true for a 14+ year old. Even a 7 year old wouldn't do what these idiots did. Basically at their age they are either malicious, or mentally disabled. Either way they need to be locked up for the rest of their lives, just a matter of what kind of prison you're going to put them into. People don't change, at 15 they're throwing rocks at oncoming cars, the only reason they wouldn't do that as adults is they might be smarter and realize that they wouldn't get away with it. They don't feel bad that they killed somebody, they just feel bad for what that means will happen to them. If they grow up and are allowed to be on the streets they'll keep doing shit like this...

[@subblonde3101]

I remember me and my friend threw snowballs at cars once, and after a couple we stopped. And looking back I can't believe I would even do that, so dangerous and dumb. We ended hitting an under cover cop (so he said, who knows) but we hid in a bush and he didn't catch us, he just yelled that he was a cop. Also once a few of us egged some cars once, also something a regret, but one car went and got a carton of eggs, chased us...and egged us back. Pretty funny and clever, gotta give em that. We totally deserved it. But yeah this is extreme and they knew they were causing serious harm to people and they knew exactly what they were doing...I mean they didn't give a shit if they killed someone, which they did. Life in prison, they don't deserve anything less.

[@tedferkin]

Darwin needs to be invoked here, these idiots need to be prevented from breeding. The parents also need to take some of the blame too.

[@MissMarshmellow3]

Youths throwing rocks of bridges has become a pretty big problem in my country, Denmark, since 2016. Going from 61 incidents in 2015 to 230 incidents in 2016, with children as young as 9 doing it. It should be noted that as far as I'm aware, there's "only" been one fatality so far. Horrifyingly enough according to 'Politiets Nationale Efterforskningscenter' (NEC) the danish police intelligence, the increase stems, at least partially, from that one fatality. In august of 2016, a german family's car was hit by a 30kg rock. The mother died and the father was severly disabled for the rest of his life, leaving their 5-year old alive and alone. In the following months the NEC reported a significant increase in the number of incidents. Honestly, it makes me sick to my stomach. The disconnect these people must feel between their actions and the consequences. It is attempted murder and I don't think the young people realize that. Not really. In the end it doesn't matter whether they thought somebody could die or not, what matters are their actions and they should be held responsible for them. Perhaps if somebody actually goes to jail for a significant amount of time for this, the consequences will seem more real and there will be fewer incidents.

[@andyv_one]

MissMarshmallow I agree with what you are saying, however it was not intended murder. They were throwing rocks of the bridge with the intent to harm. Big difference. Unfortunately they did end up killing somebody. However this is due to the lack of maturity they have because they are stil children. 2nd degree murder is to harsh of a punishment. Although they did kill somebody, taking the lives of 5 children is not reasonable or right.

[@girlspooptoo8567]

Andy Van Es How do you not know someone's going to die if they are driving 70 miles per hour and you throw a rock through their window and hit them? I did some crazy shit when I was a kid, but never anything that I thought was going to kill someone. Except for myself maybe

[@reasonable370]

Andy Van Es they might’ve been intending murder, idk. it was later found that they had thrown a shopping cart and a chair off an overpass onto a highway as well. they definitely had intended to cause some serious damage!

[@Goblin98]

Must be imigrants doing this

[@girlspooptoo8567]

Goblin98 Goblinovsky Pathetic and edgy

[@shakahbrah7934]

I admire you so much. I don’t think anyone deserves death (fire-y or not) but I agree that pedophilia is disgusting and totally immoral and deserves at least life sentence. I love your willingness to admit bias and your integrity in keeping it honest.

[@itzbrexxy4760]

They should burn

[@skywardocarina1]

Simply being a pedophile should not be punished, it would be the same thing as punishing someone for being attracted to the same sex. People can not control what they are attracted to, it's biology. Actually molesting a child though should be punished

[@shakahbrah7934]

Skywardocarina1 - Ah, I totally agree. I consider them different things too and should’ve clarified that I draw the line when it harms the kids.

[@theduckdiscussions789]

Skywardocarina1 they should burn if they abuse a child, case closed

[@brosplit]

Skywardocarina1 there is one huge invalid argument; those who attracted at their same sex, each party is able to consent or not. While pedophile, once they acted on it; they are abusing the age difference -being a kid makes you know no better. Now, IF for example, you are attracted sexually to little boy/girl but never, I mean NEVER, acted out on it and at least WAIT until they are at least legal then it is different story.

[@thebushman1321]

All 5 deserve life in prison. The act of hauling rocks to a highway overpass and dropping them down on innocent motorists is absolutely unjustifiable. I agree with phil that these kids need to be made an example of, to show the hooligans out there that this is not okay. They need the maximum possible sentence here, for the sake of the family of the victim and fir the sake of setting an example.

[@happymevids]

Hear, hear xx

[@URANOMNOM]

I can see why you think so but I disagree. These boys are not even 18 and I do not think their lives should be ruined because of this. Yes, a life was lost but should we destroy the lives of 5 kids because of that? I don't even think it's necessary to make an example of them. Everybody knows what they did was wrong. They deserve some form of punishment but I do not think they should be jailed for life time.

[@URANOMNOM]

TheBushman I think even the family of the victim should understand why jailing 5 kids for lifetime is wrong.

[@thelogicalcommenter9704]

I’m just wondering how they caught the kids...

[@GoldHamSam]

they're young teens. They have yet to finish their cognitive development. The possibility of rehabilitation and correction is perfectly viable. Those cheering for life in prison are vindictive halfwits, and this country will perish if this perspective does not shift.

[@lobik00]

The hateful eight The magnificent seven The ridiculous six The michigan five The fantastic four The west memphis three The terrible two The evil one Thanks Philly D for helping me complete my list.

[@emmabrown2140]

lobik00 🎶 one of these things is not like the others! 🎶

[@JenQ_1]

You forgot the Little Rock nine

[@Bramblestar9339]

Don't forget the animated movie 9

[@basbalfrk]

The perfect ten

[@Yes123786]

Those kids were definitely old enough to know what they were doing. They should definitely be punished severely.

[@siranimator9514]

Uzair Amanat I get that but no bail forever not even parole

[@juliorodriguez1721]

Sir Animator bail? They should never see the light of day again

[@fjo9492]

Uzair Amanat 15-17 years old. I was pretty stupid at that age. I think life in prison is a stretch they weren't necessarily going with the intention to kill people. Since someone did die 20 years seems reasonable for them to reflect. Kids those ages are immature I remember doing havoc in public places with my buds when I was young and believe it or not it's really common for guys these ages to do crazy stuff when they are hanging out with each other. Yes they are douches for destroying people's cars but these guys aren't serial killers they are stupid teenagers.

[@juliorodriguez1721]

FJO 9 no 15 year old doesn't know what will happen if a heavy object hits a moving vehicle with people in it i too was young and stupid but never did i or my friends put people lives in danger.

[@hydrogeddonn]

Exactly. A life sentence does nothing. They need to be punished, but not in the same manner as an adult. They need to understand what they did, why it was wrong, and work a LOT of forced community service. Bad parenting forsakes so many people to horrible lives, because they often make the worst possible decisions before learning right from wrong.

[@aos1762]

Imagine if these kids were any other ethnicity or race. Lordy lordy

[@SorryBadName]

They should get the chair no matter what

[@Jigamanx2]

" child molesters should be set on fire" Unsubscribed just so I could I subscribe again. Keep being you Phil, there is a reason why I have watching you for more years than I care to count.

[@Italianastuff]

577AllWell why isn’t it to you? Why do you not want to personally murder every single child molester or rapist.

[@whiterabbit9028]

It's interesting, people in ISIS etc genuinely see those they are against as 100% as bad as child rapists are to you - and look at what they do (beheading, setting on fire). It goes to show that at the core, most are completely on the same level as those they condemn for doing things like that.

[@Jigamanx2]

@The Radical Social Democrat because i want to set child abusers on fire? Ok fine fine we can give them a good o'l coup de grace. I'd never thought I'd have to defend killing child molesters over the internet, i guess there is a first for everything.

[@Jigamanx2]

577AllWell Because i don't consider such things human. And they should be erased from existence. Why would I want to keep societal cancer alive? Cancer should be cut out or irradiated out of existence..

[@Jigamanx2]

White Rabbit Well there is a big difference. Isis will kill people because they worship a different god. Child molesters abuse children. I would never kill anybody because they worship a different god or because they choose to participate in a different religion as long as they don't use that as an excuse to kill others. I'll call out Catholics(I'm a catholic) as well as others if they use religion as an excuse to kill. If you use your chosen god as an excuse to kill, you're a fucking coward. Child molesters have violated the defenseless, the most innocent creatures of society. They deserve to be put to death. Why keep such poison in society.

[@churtchpidgeon8511]

Im really confused about the whole Pres Bush story, all I keep reading and hearing is "he touched me from behind" What does that mean? He poked you? He had his arm around you in the photo? He pinched your butt? I feel like there needs to be more clarity with this. Sexual assault needs to be taken 100% seriously, but the accusations need to be 100% clear as well.

[@rainandthundersounds]

You're right. There is too little details to make any assumptions. Bush is a lot of things, but I just don't see him as a butt grabber.

[@xChijouChanx]

I would never support sexual assault, but I do wonder what happened I mean, the man is old and there are rumors of dementia How responsible is he for his actions at this point? The dude is 93 and clearly not in great health

[@isunktheship]

"sexual assault" is such a broad spectrum, technically sexual harassment is considered under this broad umbrella, right alongside groping and rape. I can't imagine GHWB's intent would have been sexual in nature, to call it out as *S E X U A L A S S A U L T* seems hyperbolic. Unwanted, sure, despite being (possibly) unintentional.. plus he's 93.

[@Novellization]

He's known for telling the joke My favorite magician is David Cop-a-feel" then patting people on the butt, as an ice breaker. It doesnt go over so well in this environment, especially when it a female. It does make you forget that you''re next to a former president and a few secret service agents.

[@internetshitlord4865]

Churtch Pidgeon true, still shove the actual molesters in the fire though.

[@SkeyeU]

Was talking to my husband about this. Thought my 6yr old was in his room. All I said was some teenage boys dropped a rock off a bridge and my son says "on purpose? They can't do that? Won't that hit someone or hurt someone? Isn't a bridge the thing we drive under?" I say yeah...I didn't know you were in here. He asked why I said they said they didn't know better. He says "That's not true :0( they knew it could hurt someone."

[@KookyKay82]

Better idea would be just to have a decorative 'lockbox' on you front porch with an Amazon Key. A door slides open, you put the parcel in, door slides closed and done. No need for anyone to enter your home.

[@thebravezombies]

Dropping the F bomb and suggesting people be lit on fire are significant behaviors that will keep me watching this show.

[@ChxseOP]

QueenThoria Read his comment again...

[@queenthoria7483]

Chase is Savage oh lol whoops

[@destructoid5939]

Ye

[@Brocky1213]

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[@QuantumShock1]

Age is no factor. If you commit a crime you should be punished to the fullest extent of an adult. Just to use an example of why; In my home country there was an extremely infamous case of two young boys (under 12 years old) kidnapping, torturing and eventually murdering a toddler by beating him unconscious with a rock and throwing him onto a railway line where he was eventually decapitated by a train. Due to their age the two boys were given suspended life sentences and were released when they reached 18, one of the two boys actually lived for some time in the same area as the murdered child's mother and bragged to people in bars and pubs about the sick act he committed while barely a pre-teen. It's stories like this that tell us why age should not be taken into account in any criminal case. Nobody is born evil, but if you become evil at any age you must expect society to treat you as the monster you are regardless of how much time you have spent on Earth.

[@atomiccryptonite5201]

Quantum Shock thank you! Just because they are minors does not mean they can play dumb after thinking it was a fun idea to throw rocks off an overpass

[@louisphilippe1100]

You know what's even more fucked up. Someone bragging about killing a toddler. You cannot aim any lower....

[@Mattors]

About that toddler thing, you are mistaken, after the brothers were released they were given new identities and sent to different countries. One of them has been in and out of prison and the other has turned his life around. Prison is ment to rehabilitate offenders and because these 5 are so young, they can easily change and become part of society

[@frankleh9841]

"because of *this case* age shouldn't be taken into account *anywhere* " I don't even know where to begin...

[@QuantumShock1]

Frank Leh There are plenty of other examples. And if it was your son who was murdered in that way would you still feel the same way?

[@ladygrey9455]

First of all, I watch you because you are real. No sugar coating, just the story with your personal opinion, open for comments. I love you and your take on the news, thank you for what you and your team does. The stone thing happened to my dad. Some high school kids were under an overpass that goes over train tracks, throwing the rocks up at the cars. Apparently they were on the basketball team and were "practicing". A rock shattered my dad's windshield, cutting him severely. The rock landed on the passenger side of his truck also but no one was with him, thank God. He went off road, down to the tracks to find the kids. He was an off duty sheriff's deputy at the time. They were booked into jail and my dad got stiches. The speed limit was 45mph but I remember being so scared seeing him after. These kids were old enough to know better and so are the Michigan Five. What did they think would happen?! Also castrate (or female equivalent) all child molesters but this garbage asshole KNEW he was HIV positive. He ruined these kids' lives. He stole so much from them. I say light him the fuck up.

[@Razbeariez]

That's... such a bad idea. Who at Amazon okayed that?

[@TheSilentQiter]

Do you mean, who OKEYED IT?

[@10Exahertz]

damn you beat me to it

[@topicvideosguy]

Philip DeFranco Why do these spam bots still exist? The real KZbinr would have a blue/gray name instead.

[@therealteal620]

Wow Phil, I followed your link to your "BIG suurpriise" and 2 hours later my laptop isn't turning on. I've lost ALL respect for you.

[@deepasaur9635]

Why waste berries?

[@plisskenarmitage2075]

I'd say throw the book at them, but only if that book is 20 pounds and dropped from an overpass.

[@szethtoxicco1710]

Best comment thus far. 👍

[@wave17vp]

I think the Amazon Key would be good if used on a locker/mailbox so your packages could be stored securely until you retrieved them, but access to your entire home is ridiculous.

[@einfachnurleo7099]

Dylan Perez-Rubio I was thinking the same... Opening the garage would be to much already but a small empty room or a shed would be more like it.

[@friedpickles3941]

Yeah. They could, say increase the yearly subscription by a bit and all those prime members will receive a locker to put on your porch or mailbox. They could be designed differently to fit different home styles and if you want you can request a special size for a litte extra cash.

[@Tiggaknock]

Actually, thats a great idea! They should sell Amazon security boxes that you bolt to your porch or stoop area. It unlocks when you get a package and alerts you. There is absolutely no reason to let someone in your $300k home for a $50 package. If it's that serious, toss that b*tch on the roof, I'll get it later.

[@samgiglio4391]

While this idea makes sense, I have the feeling Amazon knows that enough people will want to trade security for convenience that they'll sell enough units, and they will be building trust with a consumer base to the point of entering the smart home market in the future. That being said, I would never do anything more than a lock box and your idea is safer. I also don't order from Amazon nearly as much as some people do.

[@fakename8113]

That would actually be pretty nice. But yeah someone else opening the door is 110% nope-nope-nope-nope-nope-nope.

[@Levi_Allen]

When I was a 14 I threw a frisbee and hit a uhal van driving by. I did it on purpose. Most rebellious thing I've done to date.

[@jeanwesleynew]

Did the frisbee have a grenade duct taped to the bottom?

[@jedaaa]

if it had made him crash into and burn down an orphanage killing 100 kids, it would have been the most rebellious thing most people had done, so there's still time mate, aim for his face through the open window next time, and instead of a frisbee...... try a claw hammer :)

[@julianputnam8290]

Pure evil

[@TCt83067695]

Leftcoast jail

[@MissSnuller]

Here in Denmark we have had quite a lot of cases where rocks, apples and other things have been thrown from overpassings onto the highway. In one case they used a concrete block so heavy that when it hit a german family, the mother got killed and the dad went into a coma. They have never found who did this but in other cases with apples it has been kids/teenagers throwing the things onto oncoming trafic. I don't care how old the ones who did this is. They need to be punished even if somebody didn't end up dead. This is seriously dangerous behavior!

[@HealthyKadenOW]

"15 year old" IM 15 AND THEY LOOK TWICE MY AGE

[@eoghancarroll4365]

Sea Chi true youngest one looks 17 and oldest looks 40

[@TheMlgCat]

drugs age you, based on their life decisions i wouldn't be surprised if they did them.

[@kc8724]

Sea Chi i know i wanna know what are they feeding these kids😂🤔

[@MrBulldozer1000]

if its in america then its hormone filled food, so they age faster, or just the usual drugs

[@monkeybench]

It's all the chemicals in their Froot Loops xD

[@heathergordonwarnock8597]

Thank you for always being real! I love your show just the way it is! Don’t change for anyone!!

[@viralheartbrker]

I live in Michigan and I believe they deserve the worst possible punishment... because they knew what they were doing! They didn't just go to the overpass and decide there hey let's chuck these "pebbles" at the cars for fun... they brought HUGE rocks to the overpass to hit cars and see what happens... what the F did they think was going to happen?!!?!?!?! (Prayers to the families affected by this)

[@keithwilliams1795]

Viral HeartBrker I thought they should go to drop the soap prison for an easy 20, but my dad said they would go to juvie first.

[@Mr0Tubby]

Honestly I think they were trying to crack a few windshields and dent a few hoods. Kids see all these action movies and overestimate the strength of windshields. Most of the cars hit thankfully kept the drivers safe. It was only a matter of time before someone got unlucky. But they didn't think about that.

[@666AMC666]

I don't want to hear the "oh they were teenagers" excuse, bullshit. Many teenagers aren't out killing people. People need to take responsibility for their actions. I know toddlers with more intelligence and common sense than these 5. It's not always the parents either. BLAME THE OFFENDERS.

[@Takokujin07]

TheLastLaugh your pfp perfectly matches your comment, thank you

[@maddie-fz7tk]

The weaver of words that's exactly what i was thinking

[@freemanweeman1]

Completely agree 100%! These teens are plenty old enough to know the consequences of their actions. Even if they have shitty parents, thats no excuse to not be punished to the fullest. They murdered an innocent man!

[@chayden153]

Agreed!! They were old enough to know what they were doing.

[@mariachi3336]

I'm sixteen, and I'm telling you, I have friends who could easily get pushed into shit like this by other friend, classmates or whoever. Yes they fucked up, and they should get punished SEVERELY, but I can't help but imagine myself in this situation. Sentence for life is too harsh in my opinion. (Even though these kids are stupid as fuck)

[@alexabihabib8215]

Those teens should go to jail for life. I don't care if they are children or not, I don't give a shit about their age, they knew what they were doing and should be punished.

[@wschippr1]

AlexReviewzTech Gross, we shouldn't punish people, that's not what our goal should be. It should only be for three reasons, deterrence, rehabilitation, and to remove a dangerous individual from society in order to protect society. Punitive is just disgusting and is a horrible philosophy.

[@scoobertdoobert7893]

As a resident of Michigan, and relatively close to the murder scene, these teens deserve the fullest punishment of the law. They killed someone. The. End.

[@SleepSoul]

"The Michigan Five And The Death Of Kenneth White" sounds like a really bad book.

[@eoghancarroll4365]

Unnecessarily deep book

[@puffle610]

Murder is murder age doesn't matter in this situation. They should be punished to the fullest.

[@sandygehrmann6309]

Wow. Poor Ken. That's awful, his poor family. I pray for his family, that they will be okay. That is so horrendous of those teenagers

[@theVolunteer24]

Phil, I just want you to know how glad the nation is that you do give us your unreserved opinion. I'm glad you don't listen to the people that tell you to censor yourself.

[@aliciajaninexo]

I have a pretty busy work week so I keep all of your shows in my watch later and watch them like its an hour show on a day I have off. I love that it's like a one hour news show, of only the important news. Thank you! Big Canadian fan of 7 years!

[@patrickleez2402]

In my English class we talked about this rock incident, we talked about how stupid this was, and how much of a trash human being these kids were. Trevor was in my English class...

[@alycias7345]

Patrick Ward seriously? What happened? Has he been taken

[@xiii0722]

wow ..... always interesting or sad to hear from someone who actually knows a pepetrator

[@cassandra1234ization]

Well shit was there anything wrong with him? Like were people mean to him or was he just always a bundle of wacko.

[@patrickleez2402]

Mini303 he's gone, he said he was going back to another school then everyone heard what had happened

[@patrickleez2402]

Jordan Ricketts I never talked to him, he seemed sketchy. I never saw him get bullied either

[@jaimereynolds258]

If people don't like how you do your show, then they can go watch something else or make their own channel. :) This is the first time I have heard of the Amazon Key. OMG no! That is terrifying! LoL

[@tamingthelife31]

I'm here specifically because Phil is, talks and feels the way he does. I am human and I generally agree with his opinions, even the emotionally/morally strong ones.

[@Sebastian-hg3xc]

Or they could argue against his position and hopefully convince him. If creating echo chambers is your goal, then by all means only follow people you agree with.

[@Ryan-44]

MP USMC SRT Part of the reason he doesn't is the high amount of mental illness in cases of extreme child abuse. He has been harsh against child abusers, not sure which episode tho

[@MichelleBrovey]

Jaime Reynolds hey they can always go to buzz feed lol. So true I saw the ad today for the key and was seriously like ummmmm. What happened to designating a neighbor ect?

[@RantKid]

people are allowed to criticize things they like. Phil says that all the time here.

[@tiamta]

On Michigan Five: In Michigan, the age that people can apply for a learners permit is 14 with a restricted license at 16. If the five had the ability to drive extremely dangerous hunks of metal around endangering the lives of everyone on the road, then they obviously had the ability to realize that what they did was stupid and reckless. Shame on them. I agree with and fully support life in prison.

[@superbrittwilsonify]

Yes! Philip! Keep speaking your mind!

[@ggadmire]

I work at a amazon warehouse and when i heard that AmazonKey was gona be released i was thinking HELL NO

[@seannewsom1729]

I actually met President Bush (Sr.) that same year in Houston, as he came to my restaurant before an Amy Grant Christmas concert. Our management team was briefed days before by Secret Service on their needs (all entries, Windows, bathroom locations, name of the waiter days in advance, etc). Amidst that, it was "politically correctly" explained that H.W. was not all there mentally anymore, and that if there were any issues with discomfort or confusion with him, to let his aide know. He told a couple of colorful jokes with his group, and tended to hold the arm of whoever he was talking to (my staff, his friends, me). Her story of him grabbing her and telling dirty jokes is very believable to me because of this, but I think his awareness and intention are doubtful. The man was 90/91 years old and has impeding senility. He completely forgot what he ordered to the point that when his food came out, he asked the waiter "excuse me, what the fuck is this?" To which his wife and the server reminded him it was what he ordered. Barbara Bush handled it like this happens all the time. As painful as it was to see a former president slipping away mentally, I'll always be proud that I got to hear a president drop an F bomb.

[@xChijouChanx]

That's what I'm thinking. I don't think he has any ill intentions. He's just not there anymore, and his impulse control/awareness has slipped

[@dandiscer1373]

Right on the money Philly D. 20 years no parole.

[@Patcc123]

You like POV films huh phil?

[@DaBoom1987]

I had the same thought Adam.

[@ctighe4139]

2 words... Life Sentence

[@havingfun1968]

Our bus was hit by a rock from an over pass, and it hit my father in the eye, and he is now BLIND FOREVER. It tore our family apart. These kids have NO IDEA what they did, and we NEVER found the guy who did it to my father in Baltimore.

[@Epags1996]

5 teens did something that is really stupid, and really dangerous that does deserve punishment and they get prison for life. Yet another kid rapes a drunk girl and gets what, 3 months because the judge says that a hard punishment will ruin his life and what he did was a mistake because of his age? The justice system is so weird. I'm not saying both don't deserve life, but I'm just asking why does one result in life while another doesn't?

[@thekingofcucumbers4059]

Epags 1996 Simply put, its a difference in biases. Every judge, even though they should be impartial, is not. This is where this shit comes from

[@williamhayes2077]

Different states different laws

[@christianobryant5768]

Epags 1996 that’s a damn good point

[@knockitoffhudson3470]

there was a girl in the UK who recently stabbed her boyfriend in a drugged up rage and the judge let her off because she was a medical student and he didn't want to jeopardise her potential. it was all over the news.

[@bryanwhite3021]

Wait did you just compare the punishment for killing a 32 year old leaving a wife and a 5yr old vs a guy raping a girl?

[@joeldaniel45]

Not keeping your show PC is why I've always loved your shows Phil! Keep it up!

[@Seawing99]

I feel like the Michigan 5 should get some kind of severe punishment. I don't care how hold they are, they deserve it. It's basic fact that you don't throw a 20 pound rock at a car, let alone one going at 60mph. What makes this entire situation worse for me is not only are two of them the same age as my younger brother but the oldest is the same age as me. I mean he's right on the edge of being a legal adult, and probably had college or something like that planned for the future. Now those plans have been thrown out the window, because they all chose to have 10 minutes of fun without thinking and now are going to pay with loosing living a major part of their lives.

[@DaPolack]

i will gladly bring the matches to the fire

[@ZSD123ABC]

ill bring the marshmallows

[@HrishiBaney]

The Fuel is on me

[@jamesdunn7376]

i dont want no hiv positive marshmallows

[@drzaious8136]

Or we could study these people, to figure out how they tick.

[@tamingthelife31]

I'll chop the wood

[@b_zy]

as a 16 year old myself I think the Michigan 5 should be punished to the full extent of the law. Their age should not affect whatever may come.

[@andrewkearns1]

The amazon thing is a good idea in concept but awful in practice, it would probably be better if amazon sold a small outhouse or metallic box that had this feature so that the amazon employee can open this box and place the package there for safekeeping than your house. It also has the added benefit that there is nothing of value an employee could actually take or release into the wild

[@peepingtom9342]

Then people would just come with instruments and steal this box.

[@andrewkearns1]

True but if it can be bolted down, or has the camera as there device seems to , its certainly more secure than having your door unlocked. It would be obvious to passers by if you see a group of people Hacking at a device, rather than walking in a front door plus youd probably get video evidence ,also it would probably no the worth the risk as you may end up doing all that for a couple of chargers ect

[@itsMalma]

4:46 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ADRESSING THIS. This SHOULD NOT and WILL NOT be normalized. over my dead body.

[@SandyDiVa]

We have a group of teens on bikes attacking people by throwing rocks, pretzels, and random stuff to get their attention. When the person stops because they're hit, they surround them, mace them and brutally beat them. They attacked several people including a friend of ours who could've died if a business owner didn't come outside with a gun making them scramble. The best part is, the news didn't cover his attack...the most brutal one, so no one nationally realize this is happening. It's going to take someone being killed before they're stopped I guess 😡

[@sandrajackson4625]

The Michigan five are an example of what can happen when you allow young people to congregate together without supervision. Every kid gets stupid ideas of what might be entertaining but on their own dismiss it and move on. But in a group, one kid gets an idea and instead of dismissing it there's 4 other young and dumb kids to escalate it. I have two boys and it's my intention to educate them on what can happen when you're spending time in large groups and how quickly things can go south.

[@organicstorm]

Sandra Jackson teenagers don't need constant supervision to not become criminals.. I moved out from my parents at their age (15) and my parents somehow managed to raise me into a responsible person by then.. having stupid ideas and intentionally collecting heavy objects to throw at others are very different matters.

[@user-xq8uf3jx4l]

Don't give them an excuse. By 15, you should know how idiotic and malicious of an idea that was. Hope they rot in prison the rest of their lives.

[@deeznutsandbolts9676]

...heavy emphasis on *should know* . I feel like the influences kids gain are from bad parenting (or lack of any) and stuff they see as "entertainment" by whatever form. Not sure their level education might have anything to do with their mentality, but who knows.

[@sandrajackson4625]

organicstorm I get what you're saying. I was going with more a mob mentality type thing. People, grown adults can be influenced to do things they wouldn't normally do when in a group setting. Put younger kids into the mix, and bad things can happen. Not always, but the chances are there. No excuse for what they did. None at all, and they need to be held accountable.

[@ChaoticMartian]

Talk about how the brother of the Vegas shooter has been arrested for pedophila.

[@princeofddr]

ChaoticMartian Wait, really? Link?

[@JoeBoozer]

ya talk about how its a huge cover up and they are planting this on the brother to silence him. and how the shooter had a laptop with no hard drive in the hotel room

[@somepeoplearesooostupid.4933]

Sorry2Baked I just read that...does seem vert suspicious.

[@ChaoticMartian]

In ten minutes I have almost 70 likes, bless all your hearts.

[@KaijaSchmauss]

Sorry2Baked Your name is pretty appropriate right now. That whole theory sounds like something Alex Jones would peddle. I don't buy it.

[@williammahoney1739]

The human race is devolving

[@SSchithFoo]

Nuh there will ways be bad apples. Believe me this usued to be normal behaviour a few decades ago.

[@proactive2669]

I don't know about what @phillyd but you got a new supporter in me. Thanks for standing up for what's right. That's incredibly important in my books.

[@alecyo12]

On Michigan.. I think the kids deserve the the most severe possible punishment excluding the death penalty, they should rot in prison They killed a man and ruined a families life so the deserve to have theirs ruined as well, "accident" or not. On the Amazon key. Literally the first thing I thought when I saw that pop up today was all the pets running out. Whenever I have someone over to repair something while I'm at work i have notes on every entrance saying "Keep doors closed!! Watch out for Pets!!" Just put a note for the person bringing it to your house to put it on your back porch, or have a neighbor that stays home pick it up.

[@subblonde3101]

it was no accident tho.... they kept on throwing shit over the bridge and witnessed the damage it was causing...they knew exactly what they were doing. I agree, life in prison.

[@TerriLongMusic]

If you do a simple google for Heather Lind and George Bush, you'll see the pics. She looks calm and comfortable, he looks like he is trying to put his arm around her, but being in a wheelchair, unfortunately, his arm is ass level. I think she is over exaggerating purposefully in her attempt to stay relevant to the hashtag "Me too".

[@LordVader1094]

I agree. Kinda sucks that she's accusing a guy in a wheelchair of groping just for the sake of relevancy.

[@Bug-sg1li]

He apologized. Twice by the time writing this. Keep defending these things because of your political affiliation, it will help bury your side little more. Also i am referring to both sides here.

[@nizizumi]

Yea, looking at what I believe is the relevant photo it's nearly impossible to tell. All you have is the word of a few people. The picture that probably being claimed as culprit has way too many people in it. They quote people who may have never said anything they quoted. It's too much of a stretch.

[@TerriLongMusic]

Asian bug No one is defending anything, just being logical and reasonable. Did you ever think that he is apologizing simply because he never meant to come across as gross and inappropriate? There is just so much someone in a wheelchair can do as far as posing for a camera goes. By the way, I'm not a fan of George Bush... But I can separate the man from the politician, and it just doesn't look like the scandal she wanted it to be.

[@Bug-sg1li]

If he apologized then he did something. What kind of idiot apologize for these thing if they didn't do it? These things can ruin legacy.

[@bunny.lun3]

I'm glad that women and men are coming forward to speak about their experiences with sexual assault in their job. At a car factory I worked at one summer, they were super strict about preventing the older men from hitting on the young female college students who filled in for workers on vacation. Apparently it was a huge problem before and once they started firing men for sexual harassment, they were all on their best behaviour and kept a respectable distance. I remember a man made a joke about offering a ride on his fork lift, because there's a lot of walking at that place. I was really shy at the time, so he thought I was offended and profusely apologised. As I said, they were all on their best behaviour.

[@DailyVlogTV]

I'd use Amazon Key for a shed they could leave packages in.

[@dishmanw]

I was thinking something on a similar thing, maybe a storage chest, etc.

[@Vincent_Beers]

The only way to consider using Amazon Key service is if you have a locking front porch or a separate vestibule or antechamber with it's own locks. Some homes may have mud rooms, safe enough to let a delivery person have access to that assuming it has its own inner lock to keep them out of the rest of the house. For a typical home with just one door... no

[@Hirooshii1]

amazon key could litteraly only work in japan, where if you drop a wallet with a grand in it it will be brought to a police booth nearby 99.9% of the time.

[@NishaPerson]

Well a 1,000 Yen in Japan is nothing. So, you aren't wrong.

[@celesbianmegastar]

Weiss Schnee Bro that’s like $10. You can buy a small pizza with $10. I would steal $10.

[@Moondalo]

Oblivious they meant the equivalent to 1,000 dollars.

[@miunadoll8769]

He obviously meant a grand of American dollars not yen. But that's actually factual. The Japanese are typically very polite and well reserved people.

[@CarrotCakeMake]

When you ask "what should the punishment for these 5 be" you are already starting off wrong, and will get a wrong answer. The question should be "what should the punishment for everyone found guilty of this crime be?"

[@MiteyMighty]

I think its absolutely ridiculous to expect you to PC yourself. The show is your show. You produce it and the fans will follow.

[@DanielMonsanto]

To Amazon Key, Hells No. Nah uh. Nein. Niet.

[@LittleSiren24]

PLUGGING MYKIE OVER AT GLAM AND GORE MADE MY DAY! She's such an awesome person! Two of my favorite YT channels in one. Good day

[@treoliver9731]

Those kids should get life or at least something close. The knew what they we're doing. There's no defending that type of behavior.

[@subblonde3101]

Thank you for having a brain. Im getting so angry reading these comments defending them. There is no difference between them using a gun, they had no regard for human life and ended murdering someone.

[@kailaleegibbons6143]

I guarantee there was one or two ring leaders and the other boys just didn't want to "wimp out". Seems excessive for all 5 to go down for life.

[@thornewyvern8062]

"Hey, don't be a wimp, go shoot that random person over there." The problem with that logic is that they were still ultimately okay with killing someone. I seem to recall a lot of Nazi's executing people at death camps were 'just following orders'.

[@ZombiieUnicorn]

Kaila Lee Gibbons If there is no proof that 1 or 2 were leaders, they all are at the same level. Plus, even if the one who throw the deadly rock was told by another one. He still committed murder and I don't think "because I didn't want to be seen as a wimp" is a legit excuse.

[@claireevergreen6941]

The Amazon key could work for a separate rooted lock box next to the door.

[@errornull390]

Claire Evergreen why would you even need to use this..

[@jat1668]

Preying on the weakest of us deserves a special form of punishment. Setting them on fire may be appropriate.

[@MrKoryMisun]

I'm happy that you're always going to be 100% you, because this site needs more honesty.

[@jeng.2322]

my parents are considering the amazon key just because their home has the front door, and then literally two other doors that you usually have to go through to get into the actual home. it shouldn't be a problem if you live in like a two family home or something where there is the front door, a hallway, and then doors into the homes. but i guess that depends on whether or not you are still willing to give strangers access to your home Lol

[@mitchelltreaty7269]

jen g. That's an interesting point. In that case I'd say it's not nearly as bad of an idea. Hadn't thought of that before.

[@Quarksi]

Yeah I figured their plan was to cater to rich people with foyers..

[@alexspeakman761]

I agree. A family I babysit for has a sunroom and a door into the house that when you open makes a "ding ding ding" sound to know it's been opened. So in that case it would be great. At my house we just have a regular door off the steps, and if someone opens that without precaution, my cat is gone. And it's scary to come home and your cat runs past you inside when you didn't even know they were outside in the first place.

[@chelle6]

Could you put the lock on some sort of large mail box or shed outside the home and have your delivery put in there, that's what I think would work well.

[@jeng.2322]

i would think so. i think the point is just to not have packages out in the open, because depending on the neighborhood you live in, they get stolen pretty easily.

[@AntMixFilms]

Amazon should just create a stylish bench/package container/whatever that have locks. It automatically unlocks when a person delivering a package is near it. The stylish bench/package container/whatever could be placed anywhere outside of a person's home. This object could be later enable drones to deliver as well.

[@everwaiting4]

Genius

[@andatop]

What if you get large items from Amazon? My dad got lots of large packages (100lbs) plus a day. Better solution let them throw it in your house so it doesn't get robbed.

[@subblonde3101]

I think people should have like drop boxes that packages can fit in (like a mail slot)

[@halex06]

Andrew Haines While I see your point I must argue that this is not the case for most amazon deliveries. If your constantly recieving large boxes, and absolutely can't schedule to be home for delivery, then yes this service may be useful for you. But arguably for the more common smaller box, that may have a $50 and below price tag, the risk is not worth risking access to your full house and belonging. Hence why the lockbox idea may be one more people would be interested/comfortable with instead of Amazon Key. But hey just my thoughts.

[@Patatetbk]

Its still not safer. Anyone can break open a container plus having an Amazon box right outside your door sure is inviting for the common burglar. This Amazon Key is showing me how much people believe a simple door and a lock protect them. The only thing it does is add a charge if the person is caught , it doesb't actually protect you you know , your windows can be broken with a pebble.

[@ConnorApps]

is it just me that finds it kind of funny that he has a "lets make mistakes together" pillow behind him.

[@treebark8156]

Depends on what you think of as mistakes. Apparently people think committing murder while technically a minor is a mistake. I consider a mistake as something less extreme, like putting your shirt on wrong or forgetting to get your m8 dinner when you ate alone and they asked.

[@brenda2230]

15 is a completely reasonable age to understand that there is consequences for your actions, right and wrong and that what they did is not something you should do. Whether life in jail is a deserving punishment, I don't know, but definitely give them a deserving sentence. A person's life should not be taken lightly, especially one taken from them by the stupidity of these 5 children.

[@SerpentVX]

I don't know how well "making an example of them" works with teens. I've never heard of a teenager being spooked from doing something stupid from reading the news.

[@Popmanpraise]

I got spooked by 1000 ways to die when I was younger lol

[@mirado8605]

These kids are sick. They thought that being harmful, edgy juveniles would be fun. Just five less rucksacks in society. Bad parenting. At least they won't breed soon.

[@Luke-ls9yb]

Also, it’s not fair to punish them more than you would have otherwise just to “make an example out of them”

[@FatAlbert1020]

Seems like a lot of people here live in decent neighborhoods. If you do, Amazon Key is probably not for you. But in other neighborhoods, there are packages stolen off of doorsteps every day. Its the easiest and most escapable form of theft. There are thieves who literally follow UPS trucks and pick up the largest and most vulnerable packages (no guard dog, no one home, no security cameras) they drop off. So although the product isn't for me, I have had my packages stolen right off my doorstep. Its not a dumb product. I'll trust the delivery guy just doing their job more than the integrity of any random Joe that might be walking by

[@pxndxlunx5821]

FatAlbert1020 I live in a nice neighborhood, everyone always watches out for suspicious people who don't belong here. Never once had a package stole. I agree, it's not for everyone.

[@biolante555]

keep being not PG Phil, you being you is why I stay watching

[@ohmyjesselyn]

I don’t think the teens necessarily set out to kill someone, but obviously they were throwing rocks from the overpass to see if they would hit a car. And it’s very unfortunate that an innocent man died because of their dumb decisions. I do think they should be punished to the full extent of the law.

[@Edge_Walker]

"I dont know maybe we go with my opinion of this- wich is trow that people in fire" -YES 👏👏👏👏 PLEASE vote for Philip

[@janeleonard985]

Here's the one thing I have to say about the Bush thing: he's in a wheelchair, she stands next to him. Wheelchairs are not tall. If you wish to pose with your arm around someone in a wheelchair, you should probably crouch down or just understand that wheelchair-bound people usually cannot reach their arm high enough to go around your waist.

[@georgeeisener7975]

As a father I agree with you people that do this type of thing should be set on fire

[@KathrynDeSinaasappelen]

Who the hell are these people defending child molesters? I've always felt your opinions on what should be done to them was a lot kinder than my own. Also if child molesters defenders unsubbed I'd say that is a good thing.

[@icewallowcome3023]

Who the hell are these people defending human rights and the basic principles of society is what you should ask. ;-)

[@riggs3281]

SebastianMisch Wasn't aware pedophiles were human and deserved those rights.

[@icewallowcome3023]

@Nero Viper @Zainab Criminals are still humans, regardless of their crime(s). All humans enjoy human rights meaning they must not be tortured. It's really that simple. You cannot disagree and take the moral high ground.

[@shang3190]

For the ones who say child sex offenders are still human and deserve those human rights, explain that to the children at the end of the abuse. Only a personal opinion, but I feel the last thought in my mind would be protecting the human rights of a child molester who deemed their sexual needs as so important they were willing to destroy the lives of these children and cause them that kind of mental and physical harm.

[@icewallowcome3023]

@Zainab @hayley thomas Dehumanizing criminals so that you can justify their torture and killing doesn't help anybody. Justice systems in modern civilized societies do not punish out of revenge. We punish for two reasons: 1) Show criminals that their actions have consequences and thereby giving them the opportunity to reintegrate into society. 2) Deterr other people from committing the crime. It's clear that DeFranco either doesn't know or doesn't care about the philosophy of justice and human rights, but in my opinion we should all know at least the basics. There is of course far more detail to this discussion, especially when it comes to pedophilia. Although I don't think we'll make much ground when one side is denying humans their humanity and wants to torture them.

[@brittb8990]

Saying you want to light certain criminals on fire is one of the reasons why I subscribed. I completely relate that there are some individuals that a slap on the wrist just isn’t enough sometimes... Keep on being you Phil!

[@ashleyrenny]

This Michigan 5 thing happened only about 15 miles south of where I live so it scares me that it easily could have been my mom or dad who drive I-75 every day to and from work. I hope the family of this man gets justice :,(

[@travis5867]

Whew. I used to SPIT off overpasses onto passing cars when i was 10, even back then i had the sense not to throw a very large solid object in the direction of cars or a road. The fact that these boys are all in the late stages of their teenage years makes this disgusting, they definitely knew what they were doing and the damage it would/could cause, the level of stupidity is insane. a life sentence seems harsh for such young lads but they did what they did with damage and destruction in mind, in my opinion 10-20 years in prison should teach them a thing or 2 about what's ok and what's not.

[@aznperswazinable]

Can we just change the " we need to talk " titles I mean we are going to talk about whatever it is in the video

[@cheeriomartinez]

Nope No thank you! It's like saying I don't want to talk about it. Or like as if you're making me listen to something that I don't want to listen to. You could have titles like tragedy in Michigan or let's discuss Michigan.

[@benjaminhofmeister5778]

As a dude with two kids, both much younger (4 and 1), corrective punishments needs to take intent into account. Huge punishments don't change behavior when there there is no model of proper behavior to substitute the bad behavior. These terrible acts were done by children with undeveloped brains and there is a chance to adjust this obviously abhorrent behavior. If throwing them in jail, just like with everyone else thrown in jail, is intended to create an adult that will function correctly in society, it will fail to miss the mark. These kids will become much worse off by their extreme punishment if adults don't see this through the lens of kids that could be theirs that still, obviously, need to be raised into adults.

[@deplorablerightmedia9724]

In regards to Amazon key, I am a meter reader with a local utility, we already have the "key" program in place. Customers gave us their house keys and I have been attacked by pets, pets have gotten loose, home owners have come back home while I was in the house and I was held at gunpoint until the police arrived, police have been called on me so many times I know a few of them by name, I have walked in on people having sex, doing dope or other illegal activities. Others in my office have been infected by fleas and bedbugs, accused of theft, accused of rape. Some of us have been dragged into court and corporate loves to say we have the right to refuse entering a house if we feel uncomfortable yet threatens to fire us if we don't read their meters and were given a key. I hope Amazon Key is implemented and maybe after the 10th lawsuit it might convince other companies to drop this plan and stop putting us in danger.

[@yeah61]

Man I love lasagna

[@ourkinginyellow]

C G your profile pic is my response

[@CrowT23]

That's my favorite Trump quote, Fam squad

[@bottleofinsulin5486]

*LAsaga*

[@burgskeletal3149]

C G Same here. Just had some.

[@Error0101]

C G Ya know what? I can get behind that.

[@SuperNerd528]

I just see criminals targeting these delivery people when they are delivering the products. Not only do they get to steal your package but you're house too

[@Daaaanielle]

How can the kids age be a factor? No, they deserve the full extent of the law. I understand if your son Trey doesn't understand the possible outcome of throwing a rock at something, but by the time you get past age 5 there is just no excuse. These guys were 16 the youngest! If they are old enough to be out and about on their own it's because they have a general understanding of the world and consequences. Also that rocks are not to be thrown at cars.

[@zombieslayer6656]

I agree. If you are over 8 years old there is no excuse to do that. You should know by the age of 15-17 to not do that.

[@Daaaanielle]

Well, yeah, but by age five I had been told enough times that I should't throw my sky dancers at people because they'd get hurt! By age 15 I'd made the connection that if I throw something heavier people might get hurt. And I'd gotten in enough trouble to know that my actions have consequences. I feel like at least one of these kids is a ring leader. And a really charismatic sociopath that influenced the others a whole lot. But, I mean, you gotta do the time right? I hope they do, even if only to be an example. Poor family, 6 families are going through hell right now.

[@yvettenewell7520]

Your passion is one of the many things I love and admire about you.

[@surbris]

To Mr Defranco ------ you are 100% correct about the amazon key but think about this ( out side your front door is a box bolted to the ground (or small shed with door) the amazon key system would unlock the shed door or the box, out side the house. (safe and if there is nothing inside to take) WHY THE HELL WOULD I LET SOME ONE IN MY FREAKING HOUSE HOLEY SH-IT AMAZON -1 POINT

[@LowGhostRider]

why would you have a shed outside your front door.....that not realistic at all lmao. Idk anyone who has something like that

[@GANTZ90]

surbris because they're targeting groceries and your fridge.

[@mat1374]

Exactly what I was thinking, great idea on a shed but expensive and only works for amazon deliveries.

[@surbris]

heck up here in the north we have sheds's every where lol you get +1 point

[@surbris]

i'm in a amazon free area i did not know they do food and frozen stuff +1 point