Why We Should STOP Our Obsession With Bike Weight

[@Cyclingabout]

Soooo.. are you now going to be thinking about bike weight in minutes per 100km, like me? 😂⚡️🤘🏼

[@castortoutnu]

Well I'm touring with a 20kg Batavus city-bike so...

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

Only on certain items, because if I’m bikepacking it’s not about going fast. For me it’s more about reducing my fatigue due to increased weight.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

@@alikabok-es4sx Unless, a person is already a healthy weight and it’s unnecessary to loose body weight. 🤔

[@seitenryu6844]

My daily commute is 7-10km each way, so I'll continue to worry more about the stationary time at lights vs anything else. On longer rides, I'm only concerned with the scenery. Wouldn't want to miss a good view while staring at the clock!

[@seitenryu6844]

@איתי מהדב It doesn't matter much except for very short efforts. The energy isn't lost, it's returned through inertia. In the same way, a lighter system requires more "regular" input, as it decelerates quicker too.

[@theantichrome9842]

Having a really light bike is one of lifes nicest pleasures. Just loading it on/off the bike rack, carrying it up/down steps, seeing friends lift it to feel the weight, not to mention riding it... a light bike is always a joy.

[@ErikDouds]

Biked across America on the Trans Am, the bike shop before leaving said, "You'll never make it with flats." I often feel the bike industry has forgotten that to move forward all you need to do is keep pedaling. Old Tour De France photos is always my motivation to care less about gear.

[@MrJonas2255]

Not sure what you mean... If you get a flat tire, keep pedaling?

[@conan_der_barbar]

@@MrJonas2255 flat bars

[@johnpark8637]

my friend is biking across usa with flats as we speak.

[@dukekaboom4105]

@@johnpark8637 flat pedals ?

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@@dukekaboom4105 of course.

[@shenava]

I really noticed how little the weight made when I put a child seat on the back of the bike and was riding around with my young son on the back. Maybe added 17kg all in but it only felt slightly harder when accelerating and barely noticed at all once up to speed. So glad I am subscribed to this channel, always put out really informative and relevant content 👏

[@cristibaluta]

You don't have hills in your city, right?

[@shenava]

@@cristibaluta I do but Bosch helps me get up them 😉

[@andrewhayes7055]

Try going up a10% hill you may change your mind, oh just noticed you are on an e bike🙄

[@quijadriss7650]

I've been trying to convince my doctor that weight isn't all that important for years now. Hasn't gotten me anywhere. But maybe that's why I had to buy a touring bike just to hold up to my my fat ass.

[@jameshuggins4300]

🤣🤣🤣 I guess that's what I need to do!

[@jeffreykaufmann2867]

Losing 25 lbs is way more effective than buying a bike that weighs 10lbs less than your old bike to improve cycling speed

[@dangerous8333]

Weight isn't all that important. Since muscle can weigh more than fat. Too many people when they're dieting focus on weight when they should focus on getting in shape.

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

in Germany we say "Friss die Hälfte", which is a really good weightloss tip. It translates to "Eat half" of whatever you are eating, implying on reducing your calorie intake

[@dreyn7780]

The rock has out lived king henry the 8th.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

Sitting here waiting for ‘Rides of Japan’ to enter the discussion 🤔😏😏

[@cjohnson3836]

Eh, RoJ knows and jokes about whether what he does is worth it. He likes what he likes but knows it's not really about any truly tangible result.

[@abg8434]

LOL

[@siffoine]

Was going to write this exact comment 😀

[@spektrumB]

$400 for a carbon stem that saves 30g compares to a $40 aluminium one.

[@joshuabrown9398]

@@spektrumB ye thats mad

[@jcsrst]

Unless you're racing at world tour level or have a lot of money to spend, it's not really worth worrying about. A better way to gain speed would be to lose weight on your person. If you get super excited about trying to shave every gram off your bike, well have at it 😄 To each his/her own. There's no right or wrong way to approach cycling. Personally I like to train with a heavier bike.

[@iamjamestheiv]

Well put!

[@tmayberry7559]

Me too training with heavier bikes bigger tires and spending more time on the bike overall. Another way is when using a different bike a lower speed cassette ( 7 speed) with less you have to do more because ever gear is the right gear works for me. It's improved my power output especially when I switch to a 9 speed Sorry for the long post

[@gaypreator8547]

Part of the weight loss analogy is how great you feel psychologically: you are mentally high on life in general. 🙂🙂🚲🚲

[@kbd13-n9c]

The hardest part is losing weight while retaining as much muscle as possible.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

I like my semi-lightweight road bike, but when I go touring I carry so much gear that weight of the bike is irrelevant. I just want my bike to be comfortable and sturdy enough so it can handle the carried equipment and the tough "road" conditions.

[@johnpark8637]

This video which contradicts the notion that a lighter bike is so much better than a heavier bike also reminds me of when I saw a study that showed that clipping in your foot to the pedal didn't add any power. And yet every weekend warrior I see still clips in. But I love this weight video. thanks again Alee

[@Cyclingabout]

You're right, for most riders in most situations, there is no difference in power output if you use clip-in pedals. There are still other advantages though, which I list on my website: www.cyclingabout.com/clipless-pedals-advantages-disadvantages/

[@KompletterGeist]

yes but clipping in makes climbing significantly less tiring because the pedaling motion is so much more circular. Without clips, all the power basically comes from the quads and glutes. With clips, you can involve your hamstrings and calfes as well

[@brianhawkins]

Agreed! When I worked at a bicycle store I couldn't believe how much money cyclists would spend to shave a few grams off their bikes while they are walking around with beer bellies. So much cheaper to just lose the weight from your body.

[@Frodoswaggns]

LOL In cali it's all dad-gut riders with carbon bikes. I am new to the scene, but the biking scene is more mad than other sports I am in.

[@xochiltrodriguez428]

😂😂😂😂 too funny

[@themindunset]

Always great content. I'm still lugging my Salsa Fargo around and taking grief from all my titanium/carbon riding pals. I love my old bike and I do actually carry a better sleeping pad. Because some things are just not negotiable, like a good night's sleep. Travel safe!

[@1_mensch]

You missed one point, where bike weight actually matters: Rough terrain. When you really need to push and pull on the bars, brake and accelerate very often or shift weight from the front to the rear and back, a heavier setup gets you exhausted much, much faster.

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

Yes good point , , all these small differences do make a big difference after one day . Did a bike pack recently over constantly undulating terrain sometimes only a metre or two then upto 5o and 100m difference in height over grooved dry mud and the constant changing in gearing to adapt was noticeable as for brief moments I was often in the wrong gear taking the weight strain when pedalling . I was cooked though was out of shape as well 🙂

[@leonawroth2516]

No, he did not. Just watch 5:16 again.

[@1_mensch]

@@leonawroth2516 Yeah, I know what you mean. Dunno, I might have misunderstood that part. To me, he didn't show, that this also can be extremely exhausting. I got this part as more skill is needed.

[@elluisito000]

Hi! I can relate to this now that I have to haul my 20kg toddler son. It's very difficult to brake and accelerate.

[@RamsayMacFarlane]

WOW! The depth of analysis here is fantastic - as usual! Easily the best channel on here to compare REAL WORLD bike stats info and theory. Love it!

[@andrewonmyway8184]

Excellent summary. Couldn’t agree more. All the fuss about saving a few grams here and paying a fortune for it is over the top.. Carbon fibre being made lighter than dust only to fall about later on. A bit of weight makes you a fitter rider. A sensible balance is what one needs and as you say choosing the right tyre for less rolling resistance is the key.

[@Heimbasteln]

Thats why I enjoy shopping with my bike, you can carry so much stuff and it doesnt slow you down that much, and it feels great to transport all of that stuff by your own muscle power.

[@NickolasRed]

as pretty much light person with humble in average 62 kilos, lightness is the key in cycling. I think its all about proportion your weigh to equipment ure using. still my gbike is around 10kilos and im using it also as a road bike for training

[@dogrudiyosun]

Im also 62 kilos🤘🏻

[@alexandreazzalini-machecle4775]

Such a useful video. We've spent forever trying to explain this to friends who would not admit the facts. Also, when touring in some parts of the world, a steel frame can be fixed in any workshop that can weld metal. Try that with Aluminium!

[@Not_Sure_]

If it's not a race, weight is not that important, unless the weight is on your shoulders.

[@bui340]

When going horisontal Keep the weight off your body When going upwards you want the weight on your back so you make it useful (if standing that is). The solution is a big backpack (with long shoulderstraps) with a support behind the saddle.

[@Pseudynom]

Lighter bikes are nice for city commuting where you have a lot of stop and go. When my bike is full of groceries it's exhausting having to stop and accelerate at traffic lights etc. And as you said, it's easier carrying them.

[@gur262]

Lighter weight, bigger load = recipe for disaster.

[@TheVincent0268]

I also cycled in remote areas, carrying 8 liters of water in bags, thus an extra 8 kg. Obviously you feel it but get used to it very quickly.

[@JamesSmith-ui1iu]

I remember in the 2000s a friend of mine and I went to the bike store. He wanted to buy a super light weight carbon MT bike. He ended up in a heated discussion other the price with the store owner. It ended with the store owner yelling at my obviously obese looking friend "why don't you just loose 15kg and a normal aluminum bike practically becomes weightless for you". Well, he didn't make this sale and I laughed so hard that I had to walk home. :D

[@adityapathak5761]

Harsh but fair, perhaps you would have been the better person to reveal this truth to your friend lol

[@erniep8214]

Air resistance gives you more of a concern in heavy weighed big size side bags, consuming much of your precious energy in a long ride.

[@rogerharbord5551]

Depends on the terrain. Flat terrain you're right, but in hilly terrain air resistance is less important, bike handling more , and that means having the weight low down

[@johnferguson4869]

My wife bought 2nd hand Elephant Bike (ex-Royal Mail), and it is very heavy but it glides along lovely.

[@princesirohi5120]

Rolling resistance and aero gains are imp. But u missed one crucial thing about effect of incresed weight and that is rider fatigue.

[@palicar]

Appreciate the work! It's so easy to get swallowed up into the hype and start rationalizing excessive expenses!

[@joshuabrown9398]

Rationalising excessive expense is a real thing especially in biking circles.

[@ryanjohnson4193]

I carry 26 lbs and need everything I carry.be safe enjoyed video 🚴

[@jameschristensen1658]

people worry too much about everything with bikes. just go ride what’s fun, ride what feels good. relax

[@shemshem9998]

the only two reasons in my opinion to get light stuff, is A: if you are a pro level racer, because otherwise you can better invest that money into a private trainer for your fitness and into a riding coach if you also do MTB. and B: if you have enough money to first pay the trainers and coaches and still afford the lighter stuff

[@easydailytrades4205]

Another great video. Love the mathematical stats backed up with your experience and real world tests. Good stuff.

[@charliemccormick8247]

Another outstanding piece Alee - thanks for doing the homework!

[@arwo1143]

I’m about to do my first bike packing tour, 3 weeks of Ireland I only have my 10yo Bergamont (not sure if it’s a true touring bike, but adjacent to that at least) I was about to go on a weight saving tour, glad I don’t have to

[@dampandrew]

Build a custom wheelset using DONSP1986 steel hubs with loose ball bearings 36H with a 16T or 18T freewheel (apply some copper antiseize) and find a durable alexrims dm18 622mm ISO 700c 29” rim or sunringle CR18 it has ERD of 611mm. I built one rear wheel today using 36 spokes 14 gauge 284 mm it is very strong although I did a 2-cross lacing pattern. Focus on getting pro at building your own custom wheels, make them very durable and long-lasting. This is critical and you must position ur axle and grease the bearings and make the cone nut finger tight, this is crucial to build good bikes having strong wheels.

[@Archi2g]

People have been bike touring for decades with heavier equipment, if they could do it I can do it with a modern cycle (much lighter anyway). Also 1-2kg can be a $1000-$2000 difference sometimes as you sort of point out.

[@chadkline4268]

This is no joke: I demanded caps for my tire valves at the bike shop. The employee asked: what do you want those for? I said to keep dirt and mud out of the valves. I asked: don't you use them too? He said: no, it just adds extra weight. At that moment, I realized I was talking to a complete idiot.

[@ToddNZMTB]

The propeller on his hat must have been a clue too! 🙄😄

[@hjphan1030]

This video is surely for those who are obsessed with lightweight despite being broke af. Lightweight is a rich men's game. They can afford the technology. After all, lighter bikes are not slower than heavier bikes.

[@conan_der_barbar]

the only reason to go for ultralight is the smaller size, which comes in handy using bikepacking bags. other than that, heavier would be fine

[@willek1335]

In combination with volume, there's one more thing I'd like to add. Less clutter. Lightweight tends to be synonymous with less things. When you don't have to play tetris every time you need an item, it makes a difference on the ride. Those damp, muscle aching mornings become a little less insufferable when you can get on your bike with the snap of a finger.

[@jimquinn799]

I'm 58 years old and must keep any bike I purchase in my apartment... no other option. I also need to climb a rather long flight of stairs. Thank the none existent god it's only one this place has 4 levels and no elevator so obsessing about weight is a thing where I'm concerned. A key factor.

[@cristibaluta]

Me too, mine has about 11kg and can't carry it 4 levels without break. When i return from a tour with 2 bags i barely can get it up.

[@richardlewczykjr1022]

Fresh grease on all the bearings and max tire pressure make a big difference on any bike...

[@MountainVisions]

Max tire pressure doesn't do much. You feel faster, but you go slower.

[@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte]

u have so surprised me , not sure why at this point , i see ur very exact and through , thank u , we basically need to buy for comfort and style before weight lol

[@smooothyyy]

More weight means more rolling resistance. So what about that? EV´s produce more tire wear and finedust cause they´re heavier then a similar big ICE car. The weight discussion is a big story in the MTB world, but i can definitely tell a difference from my Steel MTB 16KG to my Carbon MTB 13KG riding and climbing. Also as you say, acceleration is better with a ligther bike, especially with lighter wheels. Adding frameweight is not to bad, adding wheelweight is noticable.

[@jaro6985]

" EV´s produce more tire wear and finedust cause they´re heavier then a similar big ICE car. " and produce little if any brake dust because they can use regenerative braking.

[@smooothyyy]

@@jaro6985 thats true, still i was just talking about the weight. i like EVs :)

[@pratikpramanik7782]

Rides of Japan is not gonna like this lol

[@nikitaskypridemos8378]

Weight matters a LOT in commuting where there may be 50 starts from a total standstill in a journey. This point is missed by sport and touring commentators. It makes a hell of a difference starting a 10kg from a standstill as compared to a 14kg bike, especially when this happens dozens of times in a journey, not to count the hundreds of slow downs and speed ups most journeys involve.

[@UpstreamNL]

Most weight saving you can achieve is above the saddle.

[@Cyclingabout]

At 2 metres tall, I probably shouldn't drop too far below 78kg. 😂

[@UpstreamNL]

@@Cyclingabout I see 😅. I meant in the general sense (like myself), not you in particular.

[@nubia2621]

definitely changed my whole view of bike weigtht vs aerodynamics and roll resistance and durability, wasnt a complete weight freak, but I also tried to keep it reasonably low for an ok price to be fair, I was already looking many hours for a very good rolling mtb tyre with a bit of width, so i have a bot of comfort and ended up buying some schwalbe big apples with 50mm width they have a bit more rolling resistance than the scwalbe almotion, but are significantly less expensive and also share a very good anti flat with a little bit of sidewall protection, over all a very good tyre, not a fan of the wire bead, though, i had seen in tests, that wire beads add rolling resisntance and that thin sidewalls make it less, in general sadly, there is not much out there, where you can methodically compare rolling resistances other than the website, that you were using (I used the same website) my next bike might be a steel or alu hard tail frame, because of durability and cost, then nice sturdy MTB wheels with discs shimano hydraulics with mineral oil I hate the corrosive DOT stuff, makes me sick, how that stuff is destroying all the good gear on cars, motorbikes and bicycles, but in most countries still required for road vehicle use because of hydrocopic porperties instead of hydrophobic porperties of the mineral oil (hydrphobic oils can lead to water bubbles inside the oil circuit and lead to heat driven brake blocking and lead to accidents) love, how you have the right attitude towards research for stuff and keep an open mind, fact is, that most topics are much complicated to convey the full impact in a short time, so people tend to dumb in down and simplify, but leads to assumptions and misconceptions, which sadly stick around way to long

[@chadkline4268]

I'd like engineers to obsess over durability, maintainability, and simplicity 👍

[@chrisfournier6144]

Light is always right if maximum motivation and minimum effort is your goal. Carry a canoe over your head, haul a 10 lb of potatoes around for a day. Less weight is always preferred when you are the motor. Don’t lose your mind spending millions and compromising durability of course.

[@gaypreator8547]

I love your videos, because I love bikes but I purely recreational. Operative situation for me: if you’re not racing, just touring around recreating, don’t obsess, as we tend to. I recently purchased an older 4130 Chromoly frame built out with all kinds of things I do not understand. Sort of a one piece at a time creation. It’s a heavy beast but whatever gearing the gentleman put on it - fancy front fork - disc brakes etc. I love riding the bike. It just rides amazing. Time don’t matter to me 🎶🎶🚲🚲.

[@tomwhite341]

Mind blown! I'm just setting off on a 5 day tour in an hour or so. Now I'm going to add back the kit I removed because I was obsessing with weight.

[@redwinedrummer]

Thanks for great video, Alee! I'm a bike touring beginner (

[@ivarbrinkman2195]

not so much weight, handling is what matters. Hence no front bags and a backloader or small pannier in the rear

[@ninkad.7504]

2:28 - am I the only one here who thought the guy is gonna fall off the cliff??? 😂😂

[@knife1406]

biggest thing weight effects is ride feel, lightweight wheels/tires will feel totally different than some heavy ones with reinforced walled gatorskins, but yea going faster or not it really doesn't matter

[@castcrus]

Yes, I always know I'm the one who need to shed weight first.

[@christiankeil7845]

It's just so much more fun riding a lightweight bike. Or teahouse trekking with a 7 kg backpack in Nepal compared to other countries were you have to carry your tent etc. Wright is important but not the most important

[@oOoACFREEMANoOo]

I went full alloy so i wouldn't freak out went i put my bike on a car rack or riding with kids or even on a train...

[@buckrogers5331]

Damn this is too good. Thank you for all the hard work working this out.

[@PghMtbRides]

Im used to 29-36lbs bikes Road my buddies 19lb CF Scott MTB through the single track(XC) it felt like a feather and super nimble. I also feel the extra weight on the road when carrying my toddler uphill...weight can matter lol But added weight from gear like a couple 18v tool batteries and a few bike lights, I dont notice anything in general...perhaps due to better weight placement

[@erlendbor6101]

The only time when weigth really matters is when you're racing up a mountain in France fighting for GC in TDF.

[@Steve_Coates]

I have a friend who's spent more on titanium bling than I spent on my bike. I tried pointing out to him shedding the extra 50lbs he carries round his gut would have been much cheaper.

[@Vanadium]

Unfortunately for us MTB guys who want to be fast downhill we cant really reduce the rolling resistance noticeable. Depending where you are and riding you just cant do it. I wanted to use a semi slick with big side knobs to corner, just a dedicated MTB tire to be honest. Weight is still 1kg, that is light for an 29x2,4" MTB Enduro tire. With almost no thread at the center you would slide even in dry conditions because there is to much dust on top of the trails. In wet conditions , well you can guess it ;). I really want to cut my time for the uphill but without compromising to much downhill capability's. Weigh is the only thing I really can think of, my self and the bike and ofc more watts...

[@mikeelton5666]

Yep that was me for years - happy with my 10.5 kg gravel bike now. Yes I weighed it 😂

[@rinky_dinky]

I stopped caring about my bike's weight, and cared more about my own bodyweight

[@LucaMatteis]

Thanks for yet another great video. Would be awesome if you made a video about recumbents 🙂 Cheers from Holland

[@cjvilleneuve1566]

youre black bike is just melting my mind every time i see it,,, man i wish i could afford something like this.

[@marct9942]

It's more consumerism than weight itself. Many people want to spend money and after they have their bike and all the gear, how do they spend more? They buy new gear with the excuse that it weighs less.

[@carsonho9338]

Shaving your fat and build your muscle, choose low resistance tires is the way to go

[@carlcat]

I have a neighbor who spent a lot of money to get a carbon fiber bike so he can shave off a few lbs, which is ironic because he's about 40 lbs overweight.

[@cycloneranger5354]

Sooooo rolling resistance and aerodynamics are top priori along with gearing? I plan to buy a bike soon and am trying to gain as much knowledge as possible so that I can be happy cycling the rest of my life. First "touring bike" was a 180euro decathlon bike we did the 1200km thru france/Via Rhona/etc , would never take it through the alps tho. The Search Starts NOW!

[@Cyclingabout]

Good luck! Yep, rolling resistance, gear ratios and aerodynamics are all pretty key.

[@skartimusprime4779]

I weigh 120kg. I am very focused on weight when cycling, but would believe, not the weight of my bike :D

[@DK-ic5uc]

I have a heavier frame and obsessed about the weight on my brompton. So what I did? I just exercised and made my body lighter with more muscle tone. problem solved.

[@alfredoalmeida6754]

Excelente explicação 👏👏👏👏 Abraço desde Aveiro Portugal 🇵🇹

[@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567]

My trek marlin has nuke proof horizon 29er wheelset with mezcal Vittoria 29x2.25 tires tubeless. Sealed bearings is the way to go.

[@jaro6985]

Safety is not worth the weight savings. Idiots at Orbea tried to shave grams from their bike, almost killed me when it shattered in pieces. The only people that should use lightweight parts are lightweight riders.

[@jamesallen5591]

I went through the 'light' phase many years ago.

[@Cyclingabout]

Likewise! I don't think I need to use KCNC parts ever again...😅

[@sand9577]

The easiest weight loss would be on me. Also, I don't care much about weight, I care about reliability. Is this piece of equipment, as longs as I take care of it, use it within reason, going to be able to take me home?

[@drewwoodward6818]

I would say that yes when touring your probably going to be carry a bunch of extra weight anyway so an extra kg isn't going to make a huge difference for most of the ride but there are definitly aspects where I would say the lighter the better. For one lighter equipment usually packs smaller so it's easier to pack on the bike, but also if like me your not that fit and riding up to the top of the hill just isn't viable so you inevitably have to get off and push (had a lot of these situations on my last ride in scotland), and I can say pushing a lightweight lightly packed bike up a hill is a lot nicer than pushing a heavy bike that heavily loaded up that same hill. And numerous times a long a route you come to sections where you need to carry the bike, certain cattle gates open with the lower section still in place for example, or logs or trees to get past, lighter weight is the difference between being able to carry it all across in 1 trip, or having to unload the bike and make multiple trips back and forth to take the bike over then your bags etc

[@sebastian3358spawn]

The lighter the better uphills? i mean you save energy since you produce the same power with less effort while on less weighted bike.

[@thomasr1051]

Damn I love this so much. Thank you!

[@ancoopa]

That was interesting. Thank you for sharing.

[@hiranom20]

Weight should only be life and death for a pro. For everyone else proper gearing, good cadence and rolling resistance is the be all. Maybe spend a few quid and get clippess pedals for good measure. I ride a 2015 Specialized Pitch mostly on the road with knobby tyres (for now) and it's a blast. You can ride basically anywhere and not sweat the small stuff. Look at the glass half full at the end of the day. A ride on a hardtail XC style bike with the rough terrain tyres Burns more calories on average for the same distance compared to a road bike, according to Strava anyway lol! Ride the bike you like at the end of the day. There's something satisfying about the comfort of a mtb, especially when you learn to manipulate the gears enough to maintain a nice cruising speed, and make the same distance as some of the roadies. 😍🤩

[@hansmeie12]

Realy good video! Thank you.

[@petayV8]

When your hiking your bike 2000ft in the back country, trust me weight is important

[@CandidZulu]

I would like to know how much using a bike trailer slows you down, they have a bad reputation, but I suspect they are much less of a beat anchor than most think!?

[@kelstra1997]

I couldn't agree more. Bike weight reduction can be extremely expensive for very little, if any, gain. Much easier to lose a few kgs off yourself. Having said that, there's no doubt that a lightweight bike feels great but you're fooling yourself if you reckon it's making cycling faster / easier. Same can be said for the nonsense about one bike being more aerodynamic than another. No bike presents itself as a large object to push through the air when compared to the parachute sitting on it.

[@jamesedmerdelacruz9478]

Pretty much I don't really care about weight, it's more about durability and easy repair. Steel is real no doubt steel is one of the most durable metal available in this world and can be easily be repaired yet still strong like it was built especially Titanium. Aluminum both can be durable and be repaired but Carbon sure it is durable but can it be repaired yeah but a single crack will make your day worst.

[@eastsidedirtykid]

And guess where majority of the grams are in a weekend warrior? THEIR BIG GUT

[@pookienumnums]

b-b-but... the lighter the bike the more pro the serious bois think you are.... qq :P thank you for your research and hard work~! Feeling pretty good about my 24lb-ish Gravel Bike now lol.

[@wiegraf9009]

Yep the carrying and flying parts are my biggest concerns! What are the most cost effective ways to reduce bike weight?

[@markoh6641]

What about fatigue? Doesn't additional weight wear out your body faster, especially when doing multiple-day tours? Just wondering. Great video!

[@jesseheath7718]

What about air, wind resistance regarding the frontal mass of the actual cyclist? For instance a cyclist who rides in a more arodynamic position ? Or a cyclist who rides in the drops as opposed to riding in the hoods for a length of time? Or a more arodynamic bike? How are these more aerodynamic factors possibly more efficient? In addition what is the impact, effect on physical excertion regarding the aerodynamics of the cyclist during many hours on the bike including the possible trade off of the areodynamic position versus comfort?

[@Cyclingabout]

My aerodynamics video answers all of your questions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5bCha1tmpV3o6c

[@chuckyfox9284]

I agree that weight isn’t as important as some say, but I don’t think your testing is very accurate because it is much harder to accelerate. In an actual real world scenario you’ll brake a lot and have to accelerate a lot where you lose a lot of energy. It is true that on a perfectly flat road you aren’t much slower.

[@marving.5436]

I actually like the heavier bike, more like I just want to train my hamstrings and quads saves me time squatting in the Gym and I don't race so I don't need a lighter bike and a heavier bike is much more stable to ride

[@peter_smyth]

I've just seen this video after spending a lot of money on gear for my next trip. I'll justify my purchases by saying I was saving space not weight.

[@bernibeckmann9753]

Should rider weight be in the pie chart? 200lbs rider on a 30lbs bike is not the same as 30lbs rider on 200lbs bike. Hyperbolic example for effect only. You get my point.

[@cjohnson3836]

In the context of velocity as a function of weight, it would be erroneous not to include rider weight.

[@bernibeckmann9753]

@@cjohnson3836 Ok but since he's going uphill as much as he's going downhill, a light rider on a heavy bike is going to show different outcomes than a heavy rider on on a light bike even if total weights are the same. I got this perspective from another bike video, I don't have the wattage to figure this out on my own.

[@cjohnson3836]

@@bernibeckmann9753 that makes zero sense. Physics is physics. F=mg

[@bernibeckmann9753]

@@cjohnson3836 Right, laws of physics. I think I got ahead of myself because I've heard people say why lose a pound of bike weight at great expense when you could easily lose a pound of body fat? That's why I questioned the need to include the weight of the rider in the pie chart because laws of physics apply no matter the rider weight.

[@botta94]

my bike (8.2kg) could be 1 kg lighter...but I should lose 10kg myself first 😂

[@gblan]

Ohh lookie, I just bought a new 16 pound touring bike! ......begins strapping on 75 pounds of gear

[@thomashosch930]

Very informative. When traveling through countries, how do you select your route?

[@meridianherschel1618]

I wish people could stop saying things like "sixty two hundred". It's six thousand two hundred. Why are people like that?

[@theabyss8087]

A good bowel movement makes a huge difference ; )