Why we should support farmers against Starmer

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The Crispin Flintoff Show

The Crispin Flintoff Show

Күн бұрын

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@robertallen591
@robertallen591 4 күн бұрын
farmers feed us not rich landlords who are forcing up prices for them and us , while dodging tax
@PeterPete
@PeterPete 3 күн бұрын
If farmers don't own the farms they wouldn't be liable to pay the inheritance tax on the value of the farm!!!
@robertallen591
@robertallen591 3 күн бұрын
@@PeterPete most farmers dont own farms stopping tax grifters will help keep rents down
@PeterPete
@PeterPete 3 күн бұрын
@@robertallen591 I really don't understand what your trying to say because if you're supportive of the farmer's you're supportive of them avoiding inheritance tax.
@robertallen591
@robertallen591 3 күн бұрын
@@PeterPete you seem to think reel farmers who drive tractors own the land, most dont, and the few that do tend to be cash poor, but asset rich, why do they deserve more tax relief than us
@PeterPete
@PeterPete 3 күн бұрын
@@robertallen591 I never stated they deserve more tax relief than the 'rest of us'.
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
That lady at the end talks perfect sense! Thanks Crispin for recording this.❤
@nickjanczak9665
@nickjanczak9665 4 күн бұрын
According to other channels on the Left, you have to be a farmer who owns more than 100 football pitches worth of land before you need to pay inheritance tax, which is supposed to be a tiny number of land owners who rent to farmers, not actual farmers.
@musopaul5407
@musopaul5407 3 күн бұрын
Completely agree with Tracy Worcester. I think she has hit the nail square on the head. We need to talk much, much more about Asset Manager society as it is destroying ours, and, as she says, our governments are just corporate stooges.
@GaryHamer-w5r
@GaryHamer-w5r 3 күн бұрын
She’s the only farmer I’ve heard mention the elephant in the room. Supermarkets !!!! If they paid a fair price small farmers would have enough money to pay more tax ?
@VorosMedve
@VorosMedve 2 күн бұрын
Exactly!! This has killed more farms than any tax reform
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 Күн бұрын
The elephant in the room is that animal farming causes more pollution that the water companies do.
@lheureexquise140
@lheureexquise140 3 күн бұрын
This show is excellent as always. Don't agree with the farmer about climate change/solar panels but on everything else she was right. The vox pop was especially good. Thank you.
@JamieW-o7b
@JamieW-o7b 4 күн бұрын
Note how farmers just want special treatment for themselves as usual? Why are they not calling for inheritance tax to be scrapped altogether! British farming is not as important as they would have you believe!
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
You’re talking absolute rubbish!
@BIBIWCICC
@BIBIWCICC 4 күн бұрын
We shouldn’t support the rich land owners who avoid tax. That’s why our country is in the state it’s in. I agree with supporting real farmers, but the inheritance tax doesn’t affect them. People need to look at what the government has done with the thresholds and realise the tax is aimed at rich Troy voters who were given a free ride!
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 4 күн бұрын
Me to
@maggienicols-anothervoice671
@maggienicols-anothervoice671 4 күн бұрын
Actually from what I’ve been hearing, it is the very wealthy who will survive this and the smaller farms who will collapse because the price of land and machinery and infrastructure that has been artificially pushed up so that ordinary farmers will not be able to pay the taxes when their parents die.
@lat1419
@lat1419 2 күн бұрын
The truth is it does affect small farmers. The big landowners have successfully retained land and avoided inheritance for 1000 years.
@madameblatvatsky
@madameblatvatsky Күн бұрын
Are you saying the people sp asking here are liars or ignorant?
@rudstoncullen3410
@rudstoncullen3410 Күн бұрын
"Sir" Keir-the-Starver now applies not only to Gaza but also to the UK it seems
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for this Crispin i do not want to lose our farmers they keep us fed we must not get to a point where we have to rely on our countries to feed us that would be horrendous Starmer needs to wake up
@MIke-m1c8k
@MIke-m1c8k 3 күн бұрын
The UK has not been self sufficient in food for hundreds of years. Even during the war when every possible square yard was turned to agriculture and there was rationing. Large amounts of food had to be imported. Sailors lost their lives getting food convoys to the UK. Brexit caused big food price inflation because it increased the prices of food from our main source of food imports, the EU.
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
Starmer’s wide awake he’s just following orders from those destroying this country and world!
@philmckay9973
@philmckay9973 3 күн бұрын
Im done with the starvers. Im done with the tories and brexiteers. Im not doing anything for farmers that cant be bothered. They did it to themselves.
@Tyler.i.81
@Tyler.i.81 2 күн бұрын
So gay
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
You talk out of your arse on so many levels!
@notadoctora7956
@notadoctora7956 3 күн бұрын
Heil Stammer! Sell everything to BlackRock
@paulmeaney1283
@paulmeaney1283 4 күн бұрын
Regardless of one’s own political beliefs farmers are the nations lifeline providing excellent health foods for their nations citizens and for other nations citizens where healthy foods aren’t grown in higher volumes, whereas Starmer, his labour friends of Israel, Genocide, his ilk they are not providing anything productive for the nation. Brits didn’t vote for Starver Starmer to do this to their farmers, and do this to them, Brit farmers stand with feeding Palestine.
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 3 күн бұрын
What have "Brit farmers" got to do with Palestine?
@paulmeaney1283
@paulmeaney1283 3 күн бұрын
@@bengilkes7676 They were feeding them but not anymore, no nation is.
@paulmeaney1283
@paulmeaney1283 3 күн бұрын
@@caloriebuddy ‘Soundbites’ suggests you’re not in Starvers party are you, isn’t that what they always say. We’re talking about people’s solidarity with Brit farmers and their futures and livelihoods passed down from generations to generations is hardly a ‘soundbite.’
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 Күн бұрын
@@paulmeaney1283 Brit farmers were feeding Palestine? What do you mean?
@jimshelley8831
@jimshelley8831 4 күн бұрын
Cant agree on this one, most of the very rich bu famrland to avoid inheritance tax like Clarkson.
@Wraithing
@Wraithing 3 күн бұрын
@jimshelley8831 Totally agree - the Earth should be a commonly held treasure, where ownership can never be concentrated in so few hands. But the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. Passing this law will displace a currently disorganised landed class - who display variable (but freely exercised) levels of good and ill intentioned charity and perfidy - only to gift the majority of UK land to a totalitarian and vampiric machinery of such soulless evil that Dante's visions of Inferno will be preferable to the Earth they will create under their ownership and control. Helping the public good wasn't on the minds of the global oligarchic and asset management interests who clearly bought and paid for this bill. They own the bulk of the popular discourse expressed by the centre and right, and have definitely helped to fund and buy up certain prominent left wing media channels. Silly not to when money is no object.
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
You haven’t a clue about farming! When farmers are gone and you’re eating GMO garbage which will poison you slowly you’ll change your tune!🙄
@Dylan-co2cl
@Dylan-co2cl Күн бұрын
People need to check out the economist Richard Murphy's post on this,he's right on the money.I have no sympathy for them.
@jamesstuart4018
@jamesstuart4018 10 сағат бұрын
What kind of farmers? Crop farmers livestock farmers & equine or landowners are different things.... how do we achieve land reform without inheritance tax on oligarks..... does industrial factory farms count, chicken breeders, lice filled fish farms, puppy farms, tulip farms or rat breeders for vivisection 😢
@yellowgreen5229
@yellowgreen5229 3 күн бұрын
Workers joining with Kulaks is ultimate class betrayal
@227fly3
@227fly3 3 күн бұрын
I think farmers should pay £10 per hour as city worker and fruit picker £1. landlords must be protected as part of British democracy .
@mikeharvey9811
@mikeharvey9811 4 күн бұрын
If you vote for millionaires and toffs , who are out of touch with the workers….. barb
@patrickcavanaghkilmartin
@patrickcavanaghkilmartin 3 күн бұрын
We need to tax the likes of Clarkson and Dyson. They lady was not very representative, however. A bit conspiracy theory-esque.
@clifforddowler5765
@clifforddowler5765 4 күн бұрын
Check out Richard Murphys analysis of this issue
@lat1419
@lat1419 2 күн бұрын
Richard is sadly well off key on this.
@medwaygarage1
@medwaygarage1 Күн бұрын
Why should i support landowning farmers who've had the land in some cases for centuries, poor farmers fair enough. I'd give Richard Murphy a listen on this. Whatever next supporting landlords?
@za.307
@za.307 2 күн бұрын
Nah. Suddenly when Rich farmers have their tax break taken away then it's a problem. I don't agree much with Labour but they got this right. Plus Farmers voted for Brexit, they would've got at least some protection from the EU. The real farmer's, not the owners are the one's that need help. With better support and controls from predatory practices of the supermarket chains. Protest the rampant capitalism. This protest has coverage for all the wrong reasons. Why should I care when rich people have to follow the same rules as the rules as the rest of us. Answer, I don't.
@diogenes1815
@diogenes1815 2 күн бұрын
The threshold is a million pounds for Farmers but for the rest of us it is £325000. Over the threshold, the farmers will pay 20% but the rest of us pay 40%. Farmers are whingeing methinks.
@KimSenior
@KimSenior 2 күн бұрын
Say that when farmers are gone and multinationals take over and prices for food go through the roof knobhead!
@nodealfornature2249
@nodealfornature2249 4 күн бұрын
All power to the farmers!
@maggienicols-anothervoice671
@maggienicols-anothervoice671 4 күн бұрын
@@caloriebuddyIf farmers go bankrupt, it is the big wealthy factory farms and hedge fund profiteers that will dominate. We need to look deeper on this issue. This right wing ‘Labour’ government is no friend of family farms and regenerative agriculture . They are privatising everything. The very wealthy are not the targets, they’re waiting in the wings up to buy up land for GM crops etc
@maggienicols-anothervoice671
@maggienicols-anothervoice671 4 күн бұрын
Thank you Crispin for looking deeper at this issue. I would like to see more resources used to support more farmers to transition to regenerative agriculture, not make them go bankrupt and leave the way clear for Black Rock and other predators to land grab and profiteer.
@lunluong4235
@lunluong4235 4 күн бұрын
Why don’t the farmers campaign to rejoin the EU or Common market? You got to blame the tories for the bad deals for the farmers. Some people can be asset rich and credit poor as well. They at least 10 years to pay half of the IHT when others don’t have. Why don’t some of these younger famers start the process of giving their farm away to their children?
@TREVORALLMAN
@TREVORALLMAN 3 күн бұрын
Why would the farmers want to rejoin the European Union, when farmers' across Europe are protesting against European Union policies that are damaging the farming industry on the Continent ?
@ronpepoli37
@ronpepoli37 3 күн бұрын
No sympathy
@blakedavis1852
@blakedavis1852 4 күн бұрын
Is this woman a farmer? She's no ordniary one I don't think!
@VorosMedve
@VorosMedve 2 күн бұрын
Basically, farmers are all good up to £3million, which increases to £5million when you include other tax breaks around farm buildings. Then it’s only 20% after that. This targets the rich who’ve bought farms to avoid tax…this channel is boosting a right-wing talking point just to get at Labour…I f**king hate Starmer and his second rate Tory impression of a party but they got this half-right. Farmers should be paid more fairly for the food they produce and protected from price gouging supermarkets. Labour should be doing that as well as closing this loophole.
@VorosMedve
@VorosMedve 2 күн бұрын
Ps. My parents were farmers.
@matthewdean6060
@matthewdean6060 3 күн бұрын
Farmers always vote tory and iv never net a poor farmer.. Mt grandad was a farmer, now my cousin owns the farm, he's a millionaire, after selling lans to the builders.. Don't let them make you think anythink else..
@ppetal1
@ppetal1 3 күн бұрын
They all don't. A majority of them do.
@robmaslen6446
@robmaslen6446 2 күн бұрын
The farmers protest is an astro turf movement, organised by and designed to serve the interests of rich landowners. Just because this tax measure was taken by Starmer's government doesn't make it a bad thing: even a stopped clock is right twice a day. The lack of inheritance tax on farms has made farmland into a tax avoidance scheme for the likes of Clarkson (as he has admitted) and James Dyson, simultaneously pushing up the price of farmland for small farmers. As usual the farmers political instincts are to act against their own interests. There are plenty of things farmers should be protesting about: like the breaking of promises, made by Farage and co, that the levels of subsidy would remain the same after Brexit; the planned ending of payments for conservation measures, like wildflowers in field margins; the failure to address the massive increase in bureaucracy since leaving the single market and the appalling treatment they receive from the supermarket cartels for starters.
@jamescooke6032
@jamescooke6032 4 күн бұрын
Surely you guys are against the farmers aren't you? Inheritance tax, that's verysu
@rogerrees2361
@rogerrees2361 3 күн бұрын
Got this completely wrong Flintoff. IHT is a wealth tax which all individuals in the UK should be subject to as part of a re-distribution system. Farmers paid it until the 1980s. THEN Thatcher made them exempt. Why? Political gerrymandering of course. So why are they allowed to pass on their wealth down the family, when others are not? Are farms businesses? If so they should be subject to corporate taxation. If they are owned (as most small farms are) by individual farmers then this is INDIVIDUAL WEALTH. Farmers have taken us for a ride for too long. 'No farms, No food' they say. Well 'No builders, No houses'. 'No textile workers, No clothes.' etc. etc. Farmers slogan shows how entitled they are. YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG CRISPIN. The most Tory people in the UK have just shafted YOU!
@lat1419
@lat1419 2 күн бұрын
Tax is not redistriutive. Other than up.
@LindaSh-cm1bp
@LindaSh-cm1bp 4 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with everything that has been said here. Vegan food is unhealthy and uses huge amounts of energy in it's production. Starmer should be talking to food experts not Blackrock fund managers
@Nellywetlegs
@Nellywetlegs 4 күн бұрын
The same fund managers buying land and farms to avoid inheritance tax ?.
@johnmorsley
@johnmorsley 4 күн бұрын
What makes you an expert on vegan food!? I've been vegen for 25 years and I'm extremely healthy!
@Panttts
@Panttts 4 күн бұрын
lentils, tofu, chickpeas, fruits, vegetables and wholegrains are unhealthy?
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 3 күн бұрын
"Vegan food is unhealthy" - what a ridiculous statement. Are you being serious?
@ppetal1
@ppetal1 3 күн бұрын
Irony doesn't work here.
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